So do you want me to leave or not?

[Walrus]

Originally posted by S_K_O_F
why dont you just try speaking for yourself and not worry about others

or better yet...just dont speak at all...I got 50 dollars that says if i start a poll that asks if people want you to stay here or get lost...75% would be for the latter

just quit being a dipshit...




Ok so clearly theres a few people around here who dont like me. Im not going to change who I am for anyone, so if you have a problem with me just say so.


i am deliberately NOT posting a poll because i think some people would probably try to abuse it by creating masses of accounts or something. and because i dont want people voting and not posting. this way if someone wants to say something they can actually say it or just not be heard.


p.s dont post unless you have something intelligent to say


Walrus reserves the right to not give a damn what the results of this thread are, and also the right to stay here anyway if everyone hates him

[S_K_O_F]

Originally posted by Walrus
Walrus reserves the right to not give a damn what the results of this thread are, and also the right to stay here anyway if everyone hates him

then wtf was the point

that is exactly why i didnt bother

[WlfBane]

I barely have spoken to you Walrus but you seem fine enough to me.

Maybe you spring yourself into arguments too fast, your responses and attitudes can at times lead towards people who look for arguments, that is not a good thing, especially when this forum shouldn't result to things like that.

On the latter side, light humour and agreeable points on certain issues I do like to view.

Be yourself, ignore those who try and put you down and slate you otherwise, why you think I ignore half the newbs on this forum? XD

Don't leave because of another, leave because of blocking ;)

[DeadFishGuy]

Walrus, you're one of the smarter people here. I'd hate to see you leave.


If Walrus leaves, the average IQ of the forums goes down, and the percentage of n00bs and idiots goes up. We don't want that now, do we?

[S_K_O_F]

wlfbane...you are like jeckle and hyde

your new name gave you a different personality

[Walrus]

Originally posted by S_K_O_F
then wtf was the point

that is exactly why i didnt bother


Originally posted by Walrus
p.s dont post unless you have anything intelligent to say


it seems you can read the smallprint, but are still having problems with the bigprint....

[S_K_O_F]

next flame...

come on walrus...you can do better than that

[Walrus]

no, i reserve flames for intelligent people, i hate to waste them on idiots.

[S_K_O_F]

Originally posted by Walrus
no, i reserve flames for intelligent people, i hate to waste them on idiots.

lol

now that i have expressed my dislike for you...all you can do is continue to flame me

wow...too bad everybody that has distaste for each other doesn't do this

[Walrus]

im sorry that you see that as a flame, but if you really like we can trail back to where you "expressed" your dislike for me in such a polite manner as to whine at me and call me a dipshit, whilst also managing to bump an otherwise dying thread from near the bottom of the page.

stop trying to act as though you have any kind of morale highground here, since
a) i really doubt anyone gives a shit
b) you dont.

[WlfBane]

Originally posted by S_K_O_F
wlfbane...you are like jeckle and hyde

your new name gave you a different personality

Interesting theory...

Right in so many ways... I protray various things on the net, everything is a part of me but well... certain things arise each day that change my perception on things.

Now SMILE! Because you will never know the real life me ;)

[nads]

Ok, here's how I would deal with this if I were you.

I post

S_K_O_F flames me

I flame S_K_O_F

S_K_O_F flames me back.


Now I would say this. S_K_O_F you're the biggest idiot around this place. I can't believe I'm wasting my time arguing with someone from Missouri! (I still have the postcard I forgot to mail, sorry, I'll send it soon!) So anyways, I can't believe I'm arguing with someone from Missouri! Just take a long walk off of a short pier, I don't give a damn what you think about me. I'm done talking to you.

Then I would go to the control panel and add S_K_O_F to my ignore list. Now no matter what happens, you can never ever take him off of ignore, even to read a reply to your posts. Stick to your guns. I'd be done with him. Yup, that's what I'd do. It worked quite nicely for me with the guy I did it to. What was his name again? His name started with a B I think. Oh well, I'll find that post and link it from here.

SO ANYWAYS

Moral of the story is don't take any shit from S_K_O_F :)

[Walrus]

usually that would be my course of action, but i decided that since he apparently has 50 dollars on the outcome of this thread, i would see what happens as he seems very confident that everyone hates me.

[nads]

My last post was somewhat of a joke, but I was trying to make this point. Who cares what anyone thinks of you on the internet? Just do your thing. If you like TAO, then stay here. If you don't like TAO, then leave. If you would let someone make you leave something you like on the internet, then you're going to have a miserable life living in a trailer house in Kansas just waiting for the next tornado.

Oh, and that guy's name was Snork. Here's the link to the thread: http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2428&highlight=axed

And here's what I see when I see his posts:

Snork
06-11-2004 12:58 AM This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]

I have never clicked there to read any of his posts. Read that through walrus. He came into my post simply to argue with me. I argued with him intelligently, I presented my case, he wouldn't turn down the volume on his stupidity, so I cut him off. Done deal.

[Walrus]

yes, im sure o_p is feeling somewhat lonely in my ignore list, i was gonna add yuratart but ill wait to see if hes gonna post intelligently instead of flaming.

[S_K_O_F]

Originally posted by Walrus
im sorry that you see that as a flame, but if you really like we can trail back to where you "expressed" your dislike for me in such a polite manner as to whine at me and call me a dipshit, whilst also managing to bump an otherwise dying thread from near the bottom of the page.

stop trying to act as though you have any kind of morale highground here, since
a) i really doubt anyone gives a shit
b) you dont.

it was hardly a whine
I was trying to tell you to quit trying to speak for a community that you have barely been a part of for 2 months
I am not the only one who was offended by your posts in that thread...if you will go back and read then you will see

my impression of you is that you are a dipshit...i stated my opinion and I was done. You on the other hand have repeatedly made attempts to cut me down.

btw...i will "bump" any thread I see fit to the top of the page...if I see it to be of benefit to either myself or someone else, or if I just want to express my opinion on a dying subject

I have already accepted the fact that you are sticking around and had moved on...I have done it before and I am sure I will have to do it again

you need to accept the fact that i think you are a dipshit and move on...especially since you are so adament in showing that you "don't care" what I think

[nads]

Originally posted by Walrus
yes, im sure o_p is feeling somewhat lonely in my ignore list, i was gonna add yuratart but ill wait to see if hes gonna post intelligently instead of flaming.


Yuratart has about 6 hours of his banner left before he's on the bench with snork in my book.

[Walrus]

i would suggest you keep more of your opinions to yourself, instead of trying to impose them onto others.
the knife has 2 edges, if it is my opinion that most people in the forum feel a certain way about a subject then i can express that opinion. if they disagree they can express theirs.

ANYTHING on the forum can be defended as "that is my opinion, im entitled to it" and similar. it really acts as a last line of defence.


and simply from what you say, you quite blatantly havent moved on.


i havent made any attempts to cut you down.
i made this thread, you replied to it in a way that didnt say anything useful, so i said so. if you class that as "cutting you down" then you are far more stupid than id originally thought.


and bumping a thread to respond to an argument that died a few pages back in it so you can express your opinion doesnt make you seem in any way smarter.

[WlfBane]

I laugh at flames. They are fun.

You guys need to not get so damn serious and lighten up.

If someone throws a comment throw one back, don't try and manage a huge argument against it. Thats worse than school yard retorts.

gg ur mum suxx gud cok!!1

[Walrus]

lighten up? on the contrary, i enjoy a good argument from time to time. though it helps if the person im arguing with has something to say other than calling me names.

gg no re nubzor.


anyway im usually perfectly light from my music thats constantly blaring out. right now its shopping for blood by franz ferdinand.

[S_K_O_F]

actually...i won't keep my opinions to myself

I don't presume to speak for the entire forum...but there are a few people here who like reading my opinions, so i will continue expressing them

I haven't moved on because you continue to call me stupid and to "cut me down"

my first reply to this thread, i was trying to say (in as few words possible) that I chose not to make the poll because I knew it would be a waste of space and no one would have actually cared to vote on it anyway

but whatever

btw...by expressing my opinion, i was in no way trying to prove my intelligence
intelligence cannot be proved by expression of opinion, but through the process of thought that leads to that opinion

[SomethingStinks]

I noticed you changed your singature wazzit so you didn't have to put this in it

TAO: 6
TAIGOI: 1
Total Arguements I Got Owned In

[ArcPaladinZero]

So, Walrus, are you going to stay or not? Personally I would prefer you to stay even though you are an annoying little fella sometimes.

[nads]

SomethingStinks
Junior Member

Registered: May 2004
Location: Anywhere golds jump greys
Posts: 10


dude, you have 10 posts and have never said anything intelligent.

[Walrus]

its amazing how little you can say in a longish post.

i really hate the phrase, but you started this with your post in the other thread.
with that in mind, you clearly hadnt moved on, i didnt call you stupid until you posted something stupid on this thread, where i had asked people to refrain from stupid posts and only comment if they had something useful to say on the topic at hand.
if you claim on one post (other thread) that you dont like me, and think that 75% of the forum would want me to leave, then you are not only baiting that poll, but destroying what you just said by "it would be a waste of space"



i know that there are people who enjoy a lot of my posts. ive had a LOT of positive feedback in the create-a-unit forum over the months, so i will continue expressing my opinions too.


i believe the correct word there would be "proven" not "proved", skof.


Originally posted by ArcPaladinZero
So, Walrus, are you going to stay or not? Personally I would prefer you to stay even though you are an annoying little fella sometimes.


APZ, even if by some freak event i did withdraw from the gen. discussion, i will retain a strong presence in the CAU forum.
and im sure i can be annoying, same as plenty of people, but when i say things i do like to make sure i can back up my opinions.

[SomethingStinks]

meybe he should put arguement winner except against skof under his picture. nads at least i'm not an idiotic post whore.

[nads]

Originally posted by SomethingStinks
meybe he should put arguement winner except against skof under his picture. nads at least i'm not an idiotic post whore.

LOL, what a moron! Me a post whore with my whopping 555 posts in 9 months. Dude, see that couch snork is sitting on over there? Go join him, jackass!

[Walrus]

for the benefit of SomethingStinks, i am going to try something i dont usually do, that is fighting fire with fire.
hence, i am going to try to communicate with "it", by talking in stupid.

wel SS muby u shuod put "n00b member" under yuor name! and stoop beign.......


nah sorry cant do anymore, its hard to type like that.



and although i should have ignored you by now, i am curious of one thing. how exactly have i lost this argument? so far 3 (i think, it might be more) have posted to side with me, while skof remains on his own (since you dont count SS). wow. i guess ive been owned?

[SomethingStinks]

Walrus dun even try an flame me. U were cool until you discovered the create-a-unit forum then you turned into a dumass.

[nads]

Well I've said everything I need to say in this thread. I don't know why this n00b fool decided to flame me for no reason, but I'm leaving before I get pissed off.

[ArcPaladinZero]

I guess some people never learn how to spell. Poor SS.

[Walrus]

i made special effort to click the link and read that post (since you are ignored). it turns out its just more stupid.

im afraid that about 70-80% of the feedback i get in the CAU forum is positive. that means the majority of people who read them like my ideas. i dont care if you dont like them, but you should learn to shut up or at least get your facts right.


edit: APZ! Why the devil came you between us?

[bludhoundz]

nads - great show!;)

[Walrus]

grrr blud post! do u want me to leave or not?

[bludhoundz]

Sorry - don't leave. If certain people happen to not like you, that shouldn't make you feel that you should leave, now if the whole community disliked you, thats different. Everyone has enemies, its always like that.

[Walrus]

yeah i guessed youd say that, i just want to have everyone posting their opinions. and as much pro-walrus support as possible :P


and though i shoulda stopped caring, SS, the 1st post i ever made ended up in the CAU forum. which completely wastes your post.

[Medemia]

[...] The man knocks on the door.

Mr Vibrating:(from within) Come in.

The man enters the room. Mr Vibrating is sitting at a desk.

Man: Is this the right room for an argument?

Mr Vibrating: I've told you once.

Man: No you haven't.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I have.

Man: When?

Mr Vibrating: Just now!

Man: No you didn't.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did!

Man: Didn't.

Mr Vibrating: Did.

Man: Didn't.

Mr Vibrating: I'm telling you I did!

Man: You did not!

Mr Vibrating: I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half-hour?

Man: Oh, just a five minute one.

Mr Vibrating: Fine. (makes a note of it; the man sits down) Thank you. Anyway I did.

Man: You most certainly did not.

Mr Vibrating: Now, let's get one thing quite clear... I most definitely told you!

Man: You did not.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did.

Man: You did not.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did.

Man: Didn't.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did.

Man: Didn't.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did!!

Man: Look this isn't an argument.

Mr Vibrating: Yes it is.

Man: No it isn't, it's just contradiction.

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

Man: Yes it is.

Mr Vibrating: It is not.

Man: It is. You just contradicted me.

Mr Vibrating: No I didn't.

Man: Ooh, you did!

Mr Vibrating: No, no, no, no, no.

Man: You did, just then.

Mr Vibrating: No, nonsense!

Man: Oh, look this is futile.

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

Man: I came here for a good argument.

Mr Vibrating: No you didn't, you came here for an argument.

Man: Well, an argument's not the same as contradiction.

Mr Vibrating: It can be.

Man: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a definite proposition.

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

Man: Yes it is. It isn't just contradiction.

Mr Vibrating: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.

Man: But it isn't just saying "No it isn't".

Mr Vibrating: Yes it is.

Man: No it isn't, an argument is an intellectual process... contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

Man: Yes it is.

Mr Vibrating: Not at all.

Man: Now look!

---------

Walrus, I think you could be a fine poster. I would just say stop worrying about arguements so much, cut down on your post-whoring ways and remember that quantity is just a number while quality is what really is important.

That is all.

[Walrus]

i see no relevence between that passage and the current situation :p

[Medemia]

Monty Python is like the Godfather series. It has all the meaning of life hidden within it's episodes. Want an arguement, it's there. Want some cheese? it's there. Hate Spam? It's there. Want to know the meaning of life (outside of 42)? It's there. Should we follow the gourd or shoe? Need an insult? Your mother was a hampster and your father smelled of elderberries.

Monty Python is always relevant.

[Walrus]

a) i didnt know that was monty python, i stand corrected.
b) i was joking anyway

[thrdflrmshr]

Not.

[Bottle]

Walrus, you should stay. It doesn't matter what people think of you. And to me, you've always seemed an intelligent poster with valid things to say. I have no idea what made SKOF get so angry with you...

[WlfBane]

Go away bottle you butthole :mad:

Damn that phrase never gets old ^^

[Bottle]

Hmm? Go on then Walrus, did you annoy wlfbane as well? :D

[Excaliber]

Walrus at first i didnt like you and i thought you were annyoing telling it like it is in all threads. Then i ignored you and when that didnt work i liked you and i dont see anything wrong with you winning arguments. And so far Walrusi don't see 75% percent of people posting on this thread hating you i think its the other way around.
Walrus not that you will listen to anyone and leave but i want you to stay:)
Walrus is the Official Argument Winner
S_K_O_F go climb a tree

[Dark*Demon]

Originally posted by SomethingStinks
Walrus dun even try an flame me. U were cool until you discovered the create-a-unit forum then you turned into a dumass.

what? most of his units are great and you were great until you made your first post

[S_K_O_F]

Originally posted by Bottle
Walrus, you should stay. It doesn't matter what people think of you. And to me, you've always seemed an intelligent poster with valid things to say. I have no idea what made SKOF get so angry with you...

it was never anger

If i was angry, I would have called him a fucktard.

I just called him a dipshit.

I just needed someone to argue with today...walrus has been annoying lately, so i chose him

I was enjoying it too...right up until i had to go to class

Walrus at first i didnt like you and i thought you were annyoing telling it like it is in all threads. Then i ignored you and when that didnt work i liked you and i dont see anything wrong with you winning arguments. And so far Walrusi don't see 75% percent of people posting on this thread hating you i think its the other way around.
Walrus not that you will listen to anyone and leave but i want you to stay
Walrus is the Official Argument Winner
S_K_O_F go climb a tree



just to reiterate...i didnt start this poll and I never would have
but if you look at the quote of mine that walrus uses

it states if I were to start a poll, 75% would agree with me...
i didnt start this poll, so I have not been proven wrong and walrus has not won this argument

[doubledown]

Walrus is cool, dont let them get you down. SKOF was cool but he turned into another Jeffery and for no known reason started being a dickhead. Why? I've got nothing against either you (S_K_O_F) or Jeff, but lately you two have been on a crusade to find someone and insult him for no reason. That is petty and has no place here.

[xyxaxyz2]

i am deliberately NOT posting a poll because i think some people would probably try to abuse it by creating masses of accounts or something.

You wish. :rolleyes:

[S_K_O_F]

Originally posted by doubledown
Walrus is cool, dont let them get you down. SKOF was cool but he turned into another Jeffery and for no known reason started being a dickhead. Why? I've got nothing against either you (S_K_O_F) or Jeff, but lately you two have been on a crusade to find someone and insult him for no reason. That is petty and has no place here.

just want to make sure you understand that I have never changed the way i act on these forums

sometimes i am a prick...sometimes i am not

that is the way it has always been

[Asmodeus]

:( Don't go I'll miss you to much..
*run in circles screaming*
After I collapse from fatigue...
*cries*

[roamingstorm]

i think walrus is cool, dumbass.... iffy, but s_k_o_f is an elder to almost everyone on the forums, there for i have respect for him, so i think this bitter argument should come to an end, or as a wise person once said "cant we all just get along"

[Regdar]

:rolleyes:

[Yuratart1]

to tell you the truth walrus...i really could care less if you left or if you stayed.

The other day you were just sortta getting on my nerves. No biggy though...i have no beef with you. If you stay, cool....if you leave, dont leave on behalf of people hating you...that would just prove that you are a dumbass and then in turn, they would be right.


and if anyone sees nads...tell him i took it personally that he ignored me....maybe ill just PM him....will that work?


*high fives walrus*

[Warcow]

I don't have any real comments to make about the issue, except walrus don't be annoying, The real reason im posting is to report a crime, damnit double down if your going to quote a movie in your sig, at least make sure you post the right movie adn the right line. The line is how can you kill women and children, Easy you just lead them less." And its from platoon! not Full metal jacket PLATOON DAMN YOU.
Phew I have said my peace

[***Duo***]

Hmmm...ive never even seen walrus except for the forums..I must admit...his posts are somtimes...how can i say this....um..."interesting"

I dont care if you leave or not...but like others have probably mentioned (i didnt even read half of this thread :)) dont leave because people hate you...infact...try your best never to leave...this is a game you like correct? Well if it is...go and beat up the people that hate you and be freinds with the people whom like you...

[T3km4n]

doubledown, i saw doubledown written on the side of a no fear can.

[abyaly]

Walrus, your posting style annoys me almost as much as spammers do. You're arrogant and you make the fact obvious. You try way too hard to draw attention to your units in the create-a-unit forum. You seem intelligent, but either the fact slipped your mind that using this method instead of a poll will discourage many people from saying bad things about you, or you intentionally thought it out this way in a scheme to boost your own ego.
I would not have a problem with you leaving, since you fit in that category between ignore-worthy and dont-groan-when-I-see-that-he-posted-AGAIN.

If you decide to be offended and 'argue' at me, keep in mind that this is nothing more than you asked for. You should be thankful to SKOF for pointing out the fact that some people really dislike you, since I would have been content just saying mean things about you behind your back.

[S_K_O_F]

Originally posted by Warcow
I don't have any real comments to make about the issue, except walrus don't be annoying, The real reason im posting is to report a crime, damnit double down if your going to quote a movie in your sig, at least make sure you post the right movie adn the right line. The line is how can you kill women and children, Easy you just lead them less." And its from platoon! not Full metal jacket PLATOON DAMN YOU.
Phew I have said my peace

um...that may be a line from Platoon

but it is in Full Metal Jacket

sorry warcow

[S_K_O_F]

Originally posted by abyaly
You should be thankful to SKOF for pointing out the fact that some people really dislike you, since I would have been content just saying mean things about you behind your back.

you know what...it seems that this is what i am good for

i make my feelings known and then some people (emphasis on some) come out and agree with me

many disagree with me and that is fine

but the fact remains...some do agree with me

[Jeffery]

First Doubledown, you need to look closer at the forums. It is not recently that I started targeting certain persons in my posts. It has always been like that.
And each person I targeted made one of 2 choices. A) They slowly realised I was right and became more productive member of the forums B) They ran far far away

Second Walrus;
Making a post like this will ALWAYS result in flames from people. Most will flame you for just making the post itself.
You and I have argued, and came up with a truce just to stop arguing.
I have enjoyed your posts in CAU, as well as most other places in the forums, UNTIL you decided to start posting as if you are God and always right, and everyone else is an ant to step on. A prime example was your arguments won. YOU just decided you won on the arbitrary notion that you're always right.
You also take a slight dislike from one thread, and attack persons on other threads that have NOTHING to do with the argument.
You flaunt your supposed intelligence as if you're the only smart person in the world. (I say supposed because there is no way to ever prove who you are or how smart you truly are in a forums, not because I doubt how smart you can be.)
You flame soneone, then say it wasn't a flame. If you insult someone, in ANY manner, whether true or not, that is a flame. This does not depend on whether someone flamed you first. A flame is a flame.

Ok, lastly, I for one would like to see you stay. I used to enjoy your posts a great deal, and continually hope you will return to that style. But I also see you as an annoyance right now. Intelligence does not make you a good person. Being a good person does.

[S_K_O_F]

Jeff...

do you remember when we were making lists of people that we respected and liked to see post
and do you remember me putting you on my list ...this was about a month after you joined us

i would just like to reiterate that list

whether you are supporting me or attempting to prove me wrong :p i still appreciate every one of your posts

[SlipknotiCX]

Ack, I guess my annoying self can make some comments here...

First off, why ask everyone if you should leave? It's not up to them. It's up to you. In the end they cannot decide to make you leave or stay or even choose for you. I'll admit, when I first started reading your posts....I was just like :rolleyes: . And just looking at your name would make me go...."he made the name....walrus....wtf?" . But ignoring that fact and giving you a chance without even commenting or saying anything to you, I kept reading topics with your posts in it yadda yadda...and I think you're pretty damn funny.....yes, you're a little annoying at times.....but I mean I annoy myself so you can't even take that into consideration LoL. I wouldn't want ya to go.

And to S_K_O_F.....good lord do I enjoy your posting ^_^. It's almost like crack!

Jeffery.....I think I like your posts even better now since you got that TAO award lmao.

[Duffman]

Walrus stay.

I must say I don't appreciate your king shit attitude though. The fact you created a thread based entirely on whether *you* should leave or not disturbs me. There have been many arguments/flame wars in TAO but why do you think you should have a thread determining your future here? Because you assume the community cares and has an opinion? (don't give me the S_K_O_F brought it up crap either, if you didn't want to make the thread then you wouldn't have).

Also you constantly refer to your kick ass school and units and your supreme intelligence. I don't care if it's true but i'm tired of you talking yourself up. I'd respect you more if you were modest and humble.

Walrus you are intelligent but let other people make their own judgments on you by your posts, don't tell them what you think you are.

(And i don't think you are as good at arguing as you say/think you are)

[doubledown]

Ok, this has been beaten to death but here I go again. Yes, Walrus you are cool, but yes, you are annoying. The very fact that you post regulary without just spamming is cool, but that you say you won your own arguements without having anyone else back you up does take you down a notch. Also, you missed a very blatant Monty Python reference and that cannot be forgiven.

And as Warcow has already been corrected by S_K_O_F, my sig is from Kubrick's FMJ.

[Walrus]

damn i wrote out a big old reply and the reply button didnt work. ok ill try again.


im not gonna respond to everyone since that would take too long, im just gonna try to answer some stuff thats come up a lot.

1) i was never planning to leave, this thread was mainly to try to see what people thought of me. especially people like abyaly who i had no idea disliked me. btw abyaly, why would people not say bad things just coz i didnt post a poll? the point of this thread was for people to be honest, like you were.

2) most of you take my false bravado far, far too seriously. i doubt you all act exactly the same way in real life as you do online. my whole arguments won thing was just a joke (clearly not a funny one) and when im just messing about with bravado, yes i am arrogant and probably annoying. but its just as a joke, didnt realise people took everything so seriously.

3) yes i probably am annoying sometimes, just trust me when i say that i dont do it deliberately, if i disagree with someone i tend to say so and say why. i might be pretty blunt, but i dont regard myself as arrogant.

i think this thread can die now, so, if anyone else has anything to say that they havent said already

speak now or forever hold your peace

[Jeffery]

1) Nope
2) Nah
3) No Need
4) Already said my piece
5) no way.
6) Well, ok then.


Oh wait, there wasn't any pop quiz was there? Dangit!

Well, not that you know peoples opinions, will you take it to heart a little bit.
While you do not see your bluntness as arrogance, many here do. Maybe that says something???
As for taking you too seriously, welcome to TAO. People rarely take jokes as funny unless they have the tags. Escpecially when you at no time hint at joking, and take it to the extreme.
But I said what I thought earlier. I for one am exactly who I am in real life here. I never felt the need to make anything up, or try to be that which I am not. Only those who are unhappy with who they are feel such needs.

[S_K_O_F]

I am pretty much enjoying this thread
so I think I will continue to keep it alive a little longer

you call your arogance, "false bravado"...then, why bother

I know it is very tempting to "be someone else" while you are on the internet...but, why bother
I can assure you that I act the same way here as I do everywhere else...if you were to know me outside of this game, you would find that i would still hate you and probably still treat you like a rotten piece of meat that my dog had chewed on and left in the dirt

(notice, i did not call you any names there...that is just how I will treat you)<---still a flame

now...i would like to make a request

you obviously do not care about what i think, which is fine...but there are people in this forum who do not like your "bravado"...it is frustrating to read and belittles the rest of the community without you even trying

EDIT - (my forgotten request) - relax with the "bravado"...state your opinions, correct people when they are wrong...hell, even post whore a little bit
but, do it in a way that is respectful to the community
nobody really cares about how intelligent you think you are, people just care about the quality of your posts, even the smallest of posts can have a world of meaning...xyxaxyz2 is the king of those

there have been many who have come to this game and thought that they could act anyway they please because no one could stop them...notice that these people dont tend to last very long

[Walrus]

Originally posted by S_K_O_F

now...i would like to make a request
you obviously do not care about what i think, which is fine...but there are people in this forum who do not like your "bravado"...it is frustrating to read and belittles the rest of the community without you even trying
there have been many who have come to this game and thought that they could act anyway they please because no one could stop them...notice that these people dont tend to last very long


since we are clearly still on the level of nitpicking at each other ill say this;

nowhere in that/those paragraphs was there actually any kind of request.


thats all im saying since i no longer waste my time responding to flames.

[S_K_O_F]

you are right

i will edit it to make it "sound" more like a request

[Walrus]

damn that reminded me of something else i was gonna say a minute ago. *debates whether to edit old post or just write it here*. screw it, here is fine.


4) i dont try to judge anyone elses intelligence, i regard myself as fairly intelligent. i dont keep boasting or whatever about my school. i said that once. in one thread, and people still try to use it to have a go at me.

and i generally dont like small posts. yes they can have a lot of meaning, but a longer post of the same quality will ultimately have more meaning than a smaller post of that quality.

[S_K_O_F]

now you are venturing in to xyx's territory

you and he can debate this one

[Walrus]

no debate, just opinions. not everything has to be an argument you know skof? oh...im forgetting [/sarcasm].
but sarcasm isnt really the right term...its more hypocricy. oh well.

anyway i like writing my opinions in a relatively detailed and comprehensive way. and it makes up for any post whoring or spamming i might do.

[S_K_O_F]

Originally posted by Walrus
and it makes up for any post whoring or spamming i might do.

you see...again you presume to know the mind of the community

perhaps you should let the community decide for themselves if you cover all of your bases

[Walrus]

and thats you just trying to find something to have a go at me about.
if anyone else posted that i doubt you would immediately pick up on it and respond the same way.

and over this thread it has been agreed that i dont spam and/or post whore much, hence what i said is accurate within the parameters set by the people who posted in this thread.

[S_K_O_F]

Originally posted by Walrus
and thats you just trying to find something to have a go at me about.
if anyone else posted that i doubt you would immediately pick up on it and respond the same way.

and over this thread it has been agreed that i dont spam and/or post whore much, hence what i said is accurate within the parameters set by the people who posted in this thread.

i see...so the 10 or so different people who posted in this thread represent the entire community

i will make of note of that

[Walrus]

do what you will, for i am through with you (on this thread)

[S_K_O_F]

Originally posted by Walrus
do what you will, for i am through with you (on this thread)

and there you have it folks

the "argument winner" has given up

i would say that would make him the "argument loser" in this case

*takes a bow* thank you folks...i will be here all week

[Walrus]

you mean there was meant to be an argument going on? i never noticed one.

and in your words, or similar to them at least.


"you proclaim yourself the winner without anyone to back you up"


which takes me to the whole false bravado crap arrogance blah blah blah.


and i havent given up, i simply had nothing more to say to you at that point relating to this thread.

an argument has 2 sides. what side was i meant to be representing that i have "given up" on? that im not a dipshit? thats a matter of opinion not fact, so cannot be argued.

[S_K_O_F]

walrus...this little "discussion" has ended like 5 times already

and each time i have found a way to bring you back in to it

have you not figured out yet that i am just pushing buttons to get a rise out of you now?

[Walrus]

yes it seems that trying to annoy people is the universal...thing that everyone loves doing around here. unfortunately, where jeff and o_p vaguely succeeded, you are merely added to the ignore list

[S_K_O_F]

actually...my goal was just to annoy you

and i succeeded...you are the first (to my knowledge) to add me to the ignore list...congratulations

[Walrus]

actually i was waiting for you to reply before i added you.

and if annoying people is what floats your boat, fine, i dont much care. however rest assured that you have not in any way shape or form annoyed me today. maybe a little yesterday...

[S_K_O_F]

if i remember correctly (and i may not) this is the first time that I have singled a person out to just annoy.

but notice that this is still going back and forth

probably because neither of us want to give up the last word

so lets just continue going back and forth...eventually we will have to resort to insulting each others mothers and I have some awesome "your momma" jokes to let loose

[Walrus]

be my guest. if i see an insult, i will simply put you on the ignore list. which will not constitute to you having annoyed me in any way.

seriously though, sometimes its amazing what happens when people reveal what they're really like. it happened with jeff and o_p. now its happened with you.

theres a first time for everything, does that mean it will be the last too?
i think you're just bitter that it seems not 75% of people hate me as much as you do. this thread has been going nearly a day, so any active forumers have had a chance to post here, with one or two potential exceptions for people who could be on holiday or whatever. nothing you say can harm me, because everyone here can see that you were wrong, and they will probably see that you are just lashing out as a form of revenge.

[Walrus]

*edited out*

[S_K_O_F]

being wrong or right about my little prediction doesnt really bother me too much

i never actually cared...in many of my last posts, i have attempted to lighten the mood of this thread by gradually getting more and more hypocritical and immature...apparently you haven't seen it

walrus...in a weeks time, i won't even remember this little exchange between you and I

I have butted heads with Northwind, TFM, APZ, Bottle, and the entire clan of netjak.com in the past

guess what...we moved on and I respect every one of those guys and also appreciate there contributions to the forums

I really am tired of all of this bickering, but that doesnt mean i will quit

you still portray yourself to believe to be someone of greater intelligence than everyone else...and that is my major beef with you...my opinion that you are a dipshit (which is what started this whole thing) has moved beyond any of this conversation

the fact that you continually attempt to speak for others is a close second ...especially since you have been with us in this forum for such a short time

but just for the record...this is just one side of me...the posts that you have read up until this little debaucle were other sides of me...I am the person i portray in this forum, and I always have been
and I get along with a majority of people here very well
eventually you will be one of them

[Walrus]

the main thing that annoys me about people in general is when they say something and refuse to back it up.

your main beef with me is that (you claim) i portray myself to be more intelligent than others. how is that? i regard myself as fairly intelligent, i dont care how other people regard me in terms of intelligence, i like to think that i post fairly intelligently and that will reflect in peoples opinions of me. i never claim to be more intelligent than others except possibly in a bit of false bravado with claims like "ahahaha i pwn j00 all noobs". and if you take that kind of statement literally and seriously, then i would doubt your intelligence anyway (by "you" i dont mean you skof, i mean anyone whom this applies to)

as for speaking for the community. i express what i think is the popular opinion. if it goes against what someone thinks, all they need do is say "i dont feel that way" or whatever. im surprised people make such a big deal of it to be honest.


as for lightening the mood, i dont see why it should be lightened. when this is over i will go outside and play football, and after about half an hour i will come back and be perfectly happy. if people get weighed down with what is said in a forum then they simply should go do something else until they are feeling better. i dont like to argue in a light. nonserious environment, you hardly see in international conferences, the leaders of two nations in the middle of an argument saying, but forget all this, lets have milk and cookies. they sort it out there and then (or at least they should).

[Glamdring]

Walrus, you annoy me, we've discovered that and moved past it. I'm not the only one though. The common theme of the posts in this thread is "you're a little annoying sometimes, but if you're gonna leave, leave because you want to, not because anyone else wants you to."

No, everyone does not hate you. You do manage to get on everyone's nerves every once in a while though.

If you were even a little considerate of that fact, I would have a whole lot more respect for you. But the thought of toning it down a little doesn't seem to have crossed your mind.

I don't mean to insult you in any way with this post, I'm just trying to talk reasonably about the problem, because there obviously is one.

[S_K_O_F]

but we are sorting nothing out here

all we are doing is showing each other who has the bigger penis

what i was trying to say is that our bickering has become pointless and i am growing tired of it

basically because i have nearly forgotten why we are even bothering

but go on, i assume your next post with be more belittlement

[Walrus]

Originally posted by Glamdring
Walrus, you annoy me, we've discovered that and moved past it. I'm not the only one though. The common theme of the posts in this thread is "you're a little annoying sometimes, but if you're gonna leave, leave because you want to, not because anyone else wants you to."

No, everyone does not hate you. You do manage to get on everyone's nerves every once in a while though.

If you were even a little considerate of that fact, I would have a whole lot more respect for you. But the thought of toning it down a little doesn't seem to have crossed your mind.

I don't mean to insult you in any way with this post, I'm just trying to talk reasonably about the problem, because there obviously is one.


the fact is, despite what people think, i dont deliberately try to annoy anyone, ANYONE.

i simply post what i think, and sometimes people seem to react strangely to it. even when i look at what ive posted i cant see what there is to be offended and annoyed by.


the thing that annoys me is when people say things like what skof just said,
ie "i assume your next post will be more belittlement.

i honestly cant see at any time where ive "belittled" anyone on this thread. if someone fairly neutral can point it out then i will take a look and see what i can do.

[Glamdring]

Well in that case, I believe skoffy was simply goading you, because he can. *glares at skof for not helping matters any*

I believe the biggest annoyance was that you came out of nowhere and started acting like you were a well-established and respected member of the forum. As you've probably discovered, that doesn't go over well around here. :(

[Walrus]

i dont consider myself so much a veteran of the forums as a very active member, that should count for something i think.

and i joined around the same time as quite a few of the others that we know, like t3km4n and DFG.
we are somewhat like the new generation of this forum, so compared to new members we are veterans.


however i object to the idea that just coz someones been around longer than me, that they should have the right to be able to just try to wind me up. if i had done the same to skof as he has to me this thread would probably be completely different.


and 2 hours later.......

[S_K_O_F]

this thread would definately have been different

i would have just ignored you and moved on

[abyaly]

Originally posted by Walrus
1) i was never planning to leave, this thread was mainly to try to see what people thought of me. especially people like abyaly who i had no idea disliked me. btw abyaly, why would people not say bad things just coz i didnt post a poll? the point of this thread was for people to be honest, like you were. Many people try to create an image for themselves on forums. While doing that, some people will try to avoid being rude without valid reason (eg: it's ok to be rude to a spammer or a complete idiot). Apparently, telling someone you dislike them is considered rude :rolleyes:
Notice the people who said you were annoying but they wouldn't want you to leave - they were trying to find a way to let you know you irritate them without being 'rude'.

[Walrus]

eh? when did i ever say you were rude? seriously, why do you assume that i think you're being rude? i respect honesty.

[abyaly]

I didn't say -you- thought I was being rude. I said what I did is considered rude. It's a rude thing to do. I'm a rude person. Your opinion doesn't enter into it.

[Walrus]

the way you quoted me made me think that you thought that i thought (ugh..) that you were being rude by what you said.

[abyaly]

Originally posted by Walrus
the way you quoted me made me think that you thought that i thought (ugh..) that you were being rude by what you said. That's another thing that annoys me about you. You skew things to make yourself the center.

[Walrus]

you were the one who quoted me, not me. if you dont want me to get involved dont quote me.

[Office_Shredder]

I concur

[abyaly]

Originally posted by Walrus
you were the one who quoted me, not me. if you dont want me to get involved dont quote me. The quote only means that the message is directed at you, not that everything in the post is in reference to your actions/opinion/etc.

[Office_Shredder]

Personally, I only quote if I'm referring to that person's post... otherwise I just post.

[Walrus]

i dont really see how from that you deduce that i think everything centres around me. a simple misinterpretion is all that was. im not trying to skew anything. its exactly what i said in my earlier post that i thought you thought etc.

this thread is for honesty, if people dislike me please say so. PM me if you consider it rude. and if you cant do that either, then forever hold your peace.


o_s, same here.

[abyaly]

Originally posted by Walrus
i dont really see how from that you deduce that i think everything centres around me. a simple misinterpretion is all that was. im not trying to skew anything. its exactly what i said in my earlier post that i thought you thought etc. Walrus, maybe you dont notice how often you misinterpret things to focus on you or maybe I'm confusing you with someone else (insufficient TAO. need more). Either way, it's annoying, so avoid it - even if you dont currently have a problem with it :)

[Walrus]

the idea of ministerpreting things is it isnt deliberate.
as far as i can remember this is the 2nd thing i have misinterpreted in the last 3 days, but also the 2nd thing in the last 2 months. just a coincidence. and the first one didnt focus it on me, let me try to remember what it was...


oh yeah, it was saying "abyaly has won more arguments than walrus has even been in here" and i read it such that "here" was "the forums" making it sound "abyaly has won more arguments than walrus has even been in the forums"

that didnt make it focus on me at all. it was just there was some confusion afterwards in which i was involved.

anyway, its just misintepretation, nothing to get wound up about.


seriously, if theres one thing ive noticed about these forums, its that if person A dislikes person B, person A tends to try to find as many opportunities as he/she can to insult person B.

[abyaly]

Originally posted by Walrus
the idea of ministerpreting things is it isnt deliberate.
as far as i can remember this is the 2nd thing i have misinterpreted in the last 3 days, but also the 2nd thing in the last 2 months. just a coincidence. and the first one didnt focus it on me, let me try to remember what it was...


oh yeah, it was saying "abyaly has won more arguments than walrus has even been in here" and i read it such that "here" was "the forums" making it sound "abyaly has won more arguments than walrus has even been in the forums"Woah.. what? I dont think I saw that thread - gimme a link.


seriously, if theres one thing ive noticed about these forums, its that if person A dislikes person B, person A tends to try to find as many opportunities as he/she can to insult person B. You'd be surprised. In IRC people reveal dislikes that you could never guess from their forum posts.

[Office_Shredder]

Yeah, from my posts you'd never guess how much of a f**ker I think abyaly is.... woops :o :eek:

[abyaly]

Originally posted by Office_Shredder
Yeah, from my posts you'd never guess how much of a f**ker I think abyaly is.... woops :o :eek: I knew all along...

[Glamdring]

Originally posted by abyaly
Woah.. what? I dont think I saw that thread - gimme a link.


He quoted it wrong anyways. I know because I was the one who said it. It was "xyxaxyz2 has won more arguments than Walrus has ever been in here."

[Duffman]

Walrus... Right now I just wish you would shut up about this. Take from the advice/flame whatever you will apply that to your future posts and shut up.