Clan Rankings

[Thargor]

Clan rankings are calulated by subtracting each members ranking from 101 and adding them up. Ranking updates will include changes in ranking since the last update.

Clan Rankings:

http://img124.exs.cx/img124/8382/bastats11-24.jpg

I know these may not be completely accurate as rosters change fast, but its simplest to go with the stats as they appear on the website.

And before you tell me so, yes I know more than just the top 100 of each server is important. If I had the top 1000 to work with, i'd happily use that to make these stats....(nudge nudge)

To see the whole list, go here:

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11478

[Twelve]

Ah, now this is where netjak started. Home sweet home. :)


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[WaCk-HeAd]

nice

[theburning]

Why didn't you add in the average stats and number of members on top 100 for Banff too?

[FryLock]

Originally posted by theburning
Why didn't you add in the average stats and number of members on top 100 for Banff too?

:rolleyes:

Yeah, Thargor...why don't you do more work? I mean, it's not as if what you just did took much effort at all.

Brilliant job, man. You're awesome!

[theburning]

Oh goodness Frylock!
I was just asking if there was a specific reason that it was only being done for Armageddon?

I thought perhaps he was using some sort of program he made when doing it for Army so thought it wouldn't take much time at all.

I never implied that he didn't do a good job!
He certainly did.

[Thargor]

y'all like having the average ratings in there? I just havent had time to do it yet for the others, and wasnt sure if they were necessary. But if people want em I'll put em in anyway.

[theburning]

Not necessary!
Frylock is right...I was being a snob...I'm sorry. :(

It's a good idea, because it will motivate clans etc.
Good job. :cool:

[Thargor]

Thanks everyone! :D

[search66]

Can't argue numbers can you polesmokers?

[AssassinOfLords]

*sigh*
One more incident of Julia flaming. As well as netjak superioity expressed in some sort of different numerical figure. Whatever, good job Thargor on making it. I am sure you were not trying to prove netjak's worth.
*sigh*

[T3km4n]

I think that The Illuminati should be removed considering they stole my name.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by AssassinOfLords
*sigh*
Whatever, good job Thargor on making it. I am sure you were not trying to prove netjak's worth.
*sigh*

Well Thargor, the game's up, we got busted.

No honestly Thargor is a major thinker and we're simply lucky that he wears the netjak banner. He loves the game. He's working on other projects that would benefit this game that he hasn't revealed yet.

Also, if you think we're puffing up netjak here, you should see the kind of stats he's shown for us in our forums. :cool:

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[search66]

Originally posted by AssassinOfLords
*sigh*
One more incident of Julia flaming. As well as netjak superioity expressed in some sort of different numerical figure. Whatever, good job Thargor on making it. I am sure you were not trying to prove netjak's worth.
*sigh*

DR, can we give AoL a "box of tissues" avatar?

[Twelve]

66....

I swear...

Dude is TOO MUCH.


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[search66]

Originally posted by Twelve
66....

I swear...

Dude is TOO MUCH.


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Ah man.. I just wanted to give you another "66 one-liner"...

How does this one compare to the "cherry on your retard sundae"???

[Jolly Rancher]

Cool, netjak's #1, I'm glad to be in it

[Twelve]

66--I don't know what's better...the cherry sundae one or "do you want a game or a box of tissues?" after that dude was whining about why he was afraid to play you.

Jolly--Never take our lead for granted in Banff...as a matter of fact, things are finally going to get challenging there again very soon.

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[Ritual]

Originally posted by Twelve
Jolly--Never take our lead for granted in Banff...as a matter of fact, things are finally going to get challenging there again very soon.

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That setup my entrance pretty well. The Bitter Ritual is here.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Ritual
That setup my entrance pretty well. The Bitter Ritual is here.

Are you seriously returning????

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[WaCk-HeAd]

Originally posted by search66
DR, can we give AoL a "box of tissues" avatar?


Haaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha


Search66.. this has got to stop.. this is like the fourth time you make me laugh out loud in a full college room..

STOP WITH THE ONE-LINERS GOD DAMN IT!! ;)

[Jolly Rancher]

Yeah, I know Twelve, CH has merged with SI, it'l be harder competition from now on

[search66]

Yea right...

The more things change, the more things stay the same. It will always be the same five or six people who play...

[Twelve]

What 66 said. Sure, it might look better on this little 'ol chart, but I want to see these boys stepping up in the lobby.

BRING IT.

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[Ritual]

I'll be playing when I am bored. Probably a lot.

[Twelve]

Ritual returning...

Oh, it's over now.

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[bludhoundz]

Originally posted by Twelve
What 66 said. Sure, it might look better on this little 'ol chart, but I want to see these boys stepping up in the lobby.

BRING IT.

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Oh I'll bring it, you know I will. :cool:

[Jolly Rancher]

You go right ahead there, blud, I'm sure you can beat all of us by yourself :rolleyes:

[Twelve]

Originally posted by bludhoundz
Oh I'll bring it, you know I will. :cool:

You're one of the few non-netjaks who actually do that too...

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[T3km4n]

Originally posted by Ritual
That setup my entrance pretty well. The Bitter Ritual is here. Hey, aren't you the gut that hates people from TAO?

[imagination]

hehe i feel like playing some netjaks now ... not that i havent always but now i have motivation

[Ritual]

Originally posted by T3km4n
Hey, aren't you the gut that hates people from TAO?

Ahh, yes. My reputation precedes me.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Ritual
Ahh, yes. My reputation precedes me.

Ritual...called OUT.

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[bludhoundz]

Originally posted by Twelve
You're one of the few non-netjaks who actually do that too...

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Is that a compliment? Cool :cool:
Jolly - not all of ya, but I can beat a good number :) [/brag]

[Thargor]

scores updated with todays rank data

[Twelve]

....

Scary part is, it looks like the SI-CH merge hasn't even been completed yet.

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[bludhoundz]

Yeah, we have some guys who need invos.:D
But I think AoL and I are the scary ones :) *from CH*

[Bottle]

Having said that, surely the new (lower rated) members from CH will lower the average? That's the problem with this idea.

[Thargor]

averages dont effect the ratings. Lower rated players are worth fewer points, but they dont effect the value of the higher-rated players.

[bludhoundz]

Bottle - its not an average, its scores added up.
For your case, you're #3, so Thargor subracts 3 from 101 getting 98, you give SI 98 points. Btw...looks like SI is catching up now

[Thargor]

updated rankings

[MANSLAUGHTER1]

Cool SI is in first in Banff and Rev.

[bludhoundz]

:cool:
Over netjak by 400 points, that any competition for ya pals?
:p

[Twelve]

Originally posted by bludhoundz
:cool:
Over netjak by 400 points, that any competition for ya pals?
:p

*nods head*

[Jolly Rancher]

What he said

[MANSLAUGHTER1]

Ya I know SI was like 830 than it boasted so much now ahead by netjak by 400 points like what blud said. And if any of you netjak have problems look at the facts.

[WaCk-HeAd]

Originally posted by MANSLAUGHTER1
Ya I know SI was like 830 than it boasted so much now ahead by netjak by 400 points like what blud said. And if any of you netjak have problems look at the facts.

uhhh *looks around confused*

..

What?

[psychofireman]

hummm, well maybe i should start playing again and whooping up on all the new si fresh meat!!!!

[Bottle]

You were SI once too, psycho, you traitor. :)

[psychofireman]

ouch that hurts....such a low blow.............ouch

[Kalamady]

SI is pwning ever since they merged with ChaosHoundz.

[Thargor]

rankings updated!

[ricardu]

hey thargor, nice ur rankings.... but man u made it to all the servers, not only to GL, cmon help us too, make one GL clan raking plz.....well i am waiting bro... cya

[ricardu]

oops, sorry my bad, forget it i just see the ranking of gl now.... but it need be changed, my clan have 20 or + members

[Bottle]

Ah, but does it have any in the top 100? That's what this measures.

[MANSLAUGHTER1]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd
uhhh *looks around confused*

..

What?

Ya I just read my own post over and don't really get it either. I think I ment: SI was like 830 ranking and over time are now ahead of netjak.

[Mcbeat]

kool i dindnt know my clan was 11...
well im out
cyu

[Mcbeat]

(Which s good 4 me)^^ :p

[hey122]

Awsum Work Good Jobawsum job but u could like do top like 4000 clans lol
jk dude

[Mcbeat]

funny, i am still laughing....

Mc

[WaCk-HeAd]

i am not that smart

:rolleyes:

[bludhoundz]

SI is pwning ever since they merged with ChaosHoundz.
:cool:

[WaCk-HeAd]

*laughs*

[Thargor]

Awsum Work Good Jobawsum job but u could like do top like 4000 clans lol
jk dude

Actually I would do more if more was available to work with. However I am not bills so this is all you'll get.

[Jonspen]

Meh, let's all bug bills for the clan details so tharg can do more.

[Bottle]

I'm sure he'll leave his other 20 jobs straight away and help you out. :rolleyes:

[Thargor]

rankings updated. finally.

http://img124.exs.cx/img124/8382/bastats11-24.jpg

[bludhoundz]

*laughs*
Heheh. So funny isn't it?


Game on rev?

[Office_Shredder]

So wait... The Tribunal is number three?

w00t!

[Dan_F_U]

thanks for finally adjusting all stats and ranks.

[imagination]

wow we're doing good haha im still 33rd and havent played in like 3-5 months (cant count)

[WaCk-HeAd]

Heheh. So funny isn't it?


Game on rev?

Just name the date and time my friend :)

[imagination]

i think bills should put this as part of the ranking page (that way everyone would OFFICIALLY see how Si owns all lol

[bludhoundz]

Just name the date and time my friend :)
Next time I see you on army, I'll ask. (today preferable)

[The Prophet]

i think bills should put this as part of the ranking page (that way everyone would OFFICIALLY see how Si owns all lol

All?

[WaCk-HeAd]

Yeah indeed, SI ownz ALL Prophet, Don't be silly.. You know this....
...
..

Hahaha...

[Cuathon]

well in both overalls we do. and in rev and Banff.

[WaCk-HeAd]

You really owned back there in Rev yeah ;)

[FryLock]

When you don't care who you recruit, it's easy to get the top stats. SI may be first in the numbers game, but I bet even half their members don't know or care about the other half. That's not a "clan," that's an open-door policy.

I find it amusing now, how SI is talking all big, but back in the summer when they were having trouble, they took all these potshots at netjak: "It's quality, not quantity that counts." Etc. How soon, how soon they have forgotten these arguments. Netjak is now the smaller clan, but hey...if it's quality that counts...look no further than us.

SI can't have it both ways, as much as they'd like us to believe it.

[imagination]

ok fry i agree we used to say that but you never had as big of a lead as we do now...(ima go check again but to the best of my knowlege thats true). plus dont you only get points on the ranking from people in the top 100. if you recruit someone in the top 100 i dont consider that an open door policy

[Office_Shredder]

if you recruit someone in the top 100 i dont consider that an open door policy

in netjak it's top ten or bust ;)

[Rogue_Wolf]

When you don't care who you recruit, it's easy to get the top stats. SI may be first in the numbers game, but I bet even half their members don't know or care about the other half. That's not a "clan," that's an open-door policy.

FryLock, I respect your opinion, but you were in Si for what? A week at most? You don't know what you say. We care who we recruit, we have a recruiting process so that only cool members can get in. Unlike Netjak's 1250 for golds, 1100(I think) for greys. We have probably recruited 20 out of the thousand new members in the last month or two. Please don't make false accusations.

I find it amusing now, how SI is talking all big, but back in the summer when they were having trouble, they took all these potshots at netjak: "It's quality, not quantity that counts." Etc. How soon, how soon they have forgotten these arguments. Netjak is now the smaller clan, but hey...if it's quality that counts...look no further than us.

Thats true what you say. We do like to boast, but from past experiences, you guys([netjak.com]) like to just as much. Only natural that a person would be proud of their clan, and want to brag. Our positions have changed. We did say "Quality over Quantity" in the summer, but now you guys are stating the same thing.

SI can't have it both ways, as much as they'd like us to believe it.

Not quite sure what you mean by "both ways." Si and Netjak are both good, power-house clans, no doubting that. As, I said before, I respect your opinion, as you are one of the coolest, most-skilled netjaker I know, but what you stated couldn't be farther from the truth.

-Rogue_Wolf

[Jeffery]

ok fry i agree we used to say that but you never had as big of a lead as we do now...(ima go check again but to the best of my knowlege thats true). plus dont you only get points on the ranking from people in the top 100. if you recruit someone in the top 100 i dont consider that an open door policy
So, recruiting people in the top 100 is random invites to a gold not even in the ranking lists????
I meanb, it's one thing to ask someone of they want to apply, but to sit in the lobby and get random invites from all the n00b clans, then one from SI, is just too much.

[WaCk-HeAd]

you never had as big of a lead as we do now

Check again.

SI dropped their standards, denying that is foolish and simply a lie.
BUT you seem to havee grown much stronger since the summer, which was much needed.

We're both The 2 clans on TAO. Which one is best can't be decided by rankings or a war. Much more aspects play a definite role in this. At the moment, we deliver eachother challenges and keep eachother in balance.
Only time will tell who ends on top.

[imagination]

So, recruiting people in the top 100 is random invites to a gold not even in the ranking lists????
I meanb, it's one thing to ask someone of they want to apply, but to sit in the lobby and get random invites from all the n00b clans, then one from SI, is just too much.
we never .... EVER ... send out random invites.
and i agree with you wack. we both are 2 great clans on tao but as you know im gonna brag if something looks good. but i do give you guys props, there are a couple people in your clan i have trouble with

[Jeffery]

Bullshit.

I got a random invite on a 1181 rated gold.

No asking, no talking, just an invite to SI. And not on a Jeffery account either.

[Rogue_Wolf]

What server was this on? Gl?

On Gl, Koolaid1 will invite someone, and then immediately play them grey vs grey(He's on his gold w/ grey units). If they're gold, then he'd invite them, and play them gold vs gold. This way no one loses stat points since its a try-out game. If they don't meet his standards, he'll help them with some pointers, then expel them. Unorthodox, but it works for him.

imagination didn't know of this, since he'd been gone for some months. If you were randomly invited on another server, it was someone who was irresponsably abusing the power, and if so, I apologize.

-Rogue_Wolf

[Jeffery]

So he invites them first, without asking if they want an invite?
The least he could do is ask first. Sorry, but to me just sending random invites to any old player is a tactic of a clan who cares about growth over a good clan. And I am not talking ranking either, but also behavior. How does he know whether that person is a cheater or spammer? Without at least talking to the person, inviting them is a bit rude.

[The Prophet]

I think the "open door" policy reference is more on Rev. Quite a few people in SI on Rev that are top players in other clans on other servers.

FYI:
Sept. Netjak had a 1236 overall stat lead. I believe that was right before the SI consuming a few clans.

[Rogue_Wolf]

So he invites them first, without asking if they want an invite?
The least he could do is ask first. Sorry, but to me just sending random invites to any old player is a tactic of a clan who cares about growth over a good clan. And I am not talking ranking either, but also behavior. How does he know whether that person is a cheater or spammer? Without at least talking to the person, inviting them is a bit rude.

If you disagree with his methods, talk with him. The other branches of Si make up their own rules of recruiting/running. Its a right Meletus entrusted with us. He is focusing more on growth, trying to lay a foundations of skilled members. He doesn't invite, and then forget about them. He talks with them, and plays them. If they are a spammer/cheater, then he'll immediately ban them, and notify the leaders to never invite the player again. As I said, unorthodox, but it works for him.

I think the "open door" policy reference is more on Rev. Quite a few people in SI on Rev that are top players in other clans on other servers.

FYI:
Sept. Netjak had a 1236 overall stat lead. I believe that was right before the SI consuming a few clans.

You're right, getting in on Rev is an open door policy I guess. But if they give Si a bad name, they're immediately banned. Since many top clans aren't as active on Rev(The Dawg Pound for example), the members of those clans look for a clan to join. If they want to join Si, they're welcome to join. If you choose to disagree with that, oh well.

Please don't refer to our combining with clans as "consuming." That refers to more like what happens after clan wars. The other clan is destroyed, and the members the winning clan wants are taken in, leaving the losing clan is ruins. This is not what happened. The leaders take into consideration what would happen after us combining. We'd get a new group of good players, who are fun to talk with, and would make us more of a more formiddable competitor with the competition. The former leaders of the other clans are appointed leader roles, and aren't forced to do anything. It was also their idea to join. Don't refer to the clans that have joined into us as being "consumed," since that is disrespectful to them.

A 1236 stat lead is impressive, but since this is the Banff thread, I'll point out the points on Banff, since that is where the major "consumption" took place. ChaosHoundz was around 800 or so stats, and Si was around the same mark. The biggest stat jump on Banff we had was around 500, which gave us the lead by 400. And since then, we've extended our lead(Which you guys say is because of irresponsible recruiting). And [netjak.com]'s stats have decreased.

Here are the standing on the other servers:

Army joining with The Rage gave us about a 300 point boost, which is still not enough to pass netjak there.

On Gl, you guys are still in the lead.

Rev, we were in the lead in the first place, and since then, our lead has increased.

You are still ahead on Legends, as well.

You guys are over-playing us joining with other clans. You guys are ahead of us on 3 out of 5 servers, and are only down by 200 points over all. Not too damn shabby if I do say so. You guys should be bragging about that instead of going around saying, "Well, they're only in the lead because they joined with other clans. Thats a sign of weakness. etc".

-Rogue_Wolf

[The Prophet]

Exactly, your "consuming" or "combining" gave you the lead. Finally someone admits this. Thats the whole point. Netjak could lower it standards and be top statstical leader tomorrow. You guys brag and claim to pwn but the truth is your standards have dropped and some of your members have even said this as well.

It is so obvious you guys are trying to beat netjak at every angle, btw we take pride in that. Even on the dang clan websites, for Christ's sake.

Overplaying your acts of clan absorptions is signs of weakness? Rogue please, netjak is far from being weak. Netjak hasn't ever touched the verge of dying. Netjak has never had down times. Netjak has always progressed. So don't even try the complaining=weakness card.

Rogue no offense but haven't you lead SI on Army for a while now? Dude, SI was nothing there till your resent absorption of The Rage. So don't make any remarks to me about leading, ok? This refered to your hype on the netjak thread.

[Rogue_Wolf]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue_Wolf
We let in anyone who atleast has stats in the top 100 range, since our whole goal in Si is to just be number one, and to suck up other clans just so we can have higher stats than netjak.com



You said it, not me. So dont roll your eyes.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue_Wolf
But I can't resist making fun of BS.



The BS is you and your clan claim to be the best at every oppurtunity and we all know that SI was dead till your clan absortions, is that a better word. Netjak values has took it to where it is. Not whinning about not recruiting so your clan can stay alive.

I will continue this on the Banff rankings thread, since you edited your post there.

I'm bringing my arguement here, as you wanted, since I didn't want to fill your thread with arguments, ain't I nice?

Yeah, um, incase you didn't know(Which you did, you were just being an ass), I was being sarcastic. That means I was agreeing with what you just said, just being really fake about it.

The BS I was referring to was you and many members of netjak stating that Si is a clan that doesn't care about stats, attitudes, or skill. That our recruiting process was just a front, and your 1250+ or higher stat requirement meant that you guys had a better recruiting process than we do.

I guess when you refer to us during the "dead" period is the same time when Twelve says that you guys won a clan war because you stopped recruiting. Say what you will, I can't stop you. But this "dead" period was when we were just starting to branch out onto other servers and many of our key members left Banff for a period of time, and when CertifiedDORK convinced many of our members to leave by lying. If this is netjak.com's proudest moment over Si, then whatever. I won't argue since you guys have been pressing this for 6 months...

Our clan "absorbtions", whatever. On Army, we recruited a grand total of 5 members from Rage ! Wow, how cheap was that? That totally screwed you guys over there.

And ChaosHoundz, you know what that did? We gained 400 points over you. And 2 clans wanted that to happen, us and them. And you know what, since then, you guys are how far behind? What, 200 points? Woah, thats like impossible for a clan that has about 3,000 more points than the clan behind them. Our consumption of two good clans happened about 3 months ago. You guys have had time to retaliate, but the only thing I've seen is trash on the forums between clans. I have an idea, how about Si stops our uncontrollable urge to eat up clans and give you guys some time to catch us. Then can we say that we won a clan war?

-Rogue_Wolf

(This isn't an attack on netjak, just somethings I've kept to myself)

[Rogue_Wolf]

Sorry for double posting, but he edited his first post.

It is so obvious you guys are trying to beat netjak at every angle, btw we take pride in that. Even on the dang clan websites, for Christ's sake.

Overplaying your acts of clan absorptions is signs of weakness? Rogue please, netjak is far from being weak. Netjak hasn't ever touched the verge of dying. Netjak has never had down times. Netjak has always progressed. So don't even try the complaining=weakness card.

Rogue no offense but haven't you lead SI on Army for a while now? Dude, SI was nothing there till your resent absorption of The Rage. So don't make any remarks to me about leading, ok? This refered to your hype on the netjak thread.

Clan websites. Yeah, you're totally right about that. We have total control over the Clan Website page. You know what, meletus said one thing about this, to try and stay in the top five. Not to be number one, not to outdue netjak, just to be in the top five.

I didn't say that "Overplaying your acts of clan absorptions is signs of weakness?". I said that you guys probably think our combining with clans was a sign of weakness. And that you guys were over playing us combining with clans. I didn't combine them.

You're right, I am the leader on Army. You're right, we weren't as high ranked as we were when we got some Rage members. I didn't say anything about the way netjak was run, I was just coming back at you for making remarks about the way Si was run. I'm not doing my best on Army, I know. But due to many personal problems, and technical problems there, its been lagging as of late. Please don't criticize me on what goes on there.

-Rogue_Wolf

[WaCk-HeAd]

I guess when you refer to us during the "dead" period is the same time when Twelve says that you guys won a clan war because you stopped recruiting. Say what you will, I can't stop you. But this "dead" period was when we were just starting to branch out onto other servers and many of our key members left Banff for a period of time, and when CertifiedDORK convinced many of our members to leave by lying. If this is netjak.com's proudest moment over Si, then whatever. I won't argue since you guys have been pressing this for 6 months...



Owh Please!! You can say whatever you want to justify that certain situation. But the Facts were.

You were dying, and we had no troubles what so ever. Then One of SI Leaders comes to one of Netjak's leader to ask if we would stop recruiting SI members for a period of time, so that SI could get themselves together again, else there would have been no future for SI.

This could have been seen has a victory over SI. And THAT was what Twelve meant, winning a "war". SI would have treatened it the same way, probably even worse. We have not been bragging about this for 6 months, like SI would. We have been defending ourselves with this against your constant bragging because SI topped Netjak in the rankings. Look at how this discussion began. A SI person started bragging ONCE MORE.

Of course we like to brag as well, but please, don't compare our ego's with SI ego's. EVEN my ego can't match with yours. And I'm the Brag King of Netjak.

The difference is, Rogue, Netjak ALWAYS held the same rules towards recruiting, we even made them stricter. They always worked for us, and that is what got us here. You, SI, on the other hand dropped their standards. Don't make me get Bottle's posts when you first started combining clans. I always liked the challenges, but the challenges grow weaker and weaker. Plus we never said we couldn't get passed you guys, we're just stating the facts when some SI member starts bragging again.


And what's this about Rev?


You're right, getting in on Rev is an open door policy I guess.

Rev, we were in the lead in the first place, and since then, our lead has increased.


Yeah, something you can be really proud of. Sorry, but I find this method more than ridiculous as a method for one of the top clans in TAO.

And probably is Contributing to the fact that no one takes Rev serious, while it has so much potential.

[search66]

Here's a newsflash for your open door policy... Shove my Docs up yer arse!

Argh!

[Rogue_Wolf]

This is why I chose to keep my mouth shut for the past months. I knew once I'd open them, I'd open the flood gates, and piss of a lot of netjak.com members.

Again with the dead period. The facts are that Si had a core center of Si members who were still active, and we had the same people on our forums posting. Netjak didn't know what was going on behind closed doors, but act like they do. The only thing that happened during that period was Si had a dry spell, and trimmed out the fat. Clans don't die because of a lack of members. They die because of leadership, and their bonds breaking. Ask ViS about this, ask KwOzmaj about this. But this didn't happen with Si. As for one of our members coming to you, without us knowing, and probably wanting that leader to try and keep quiet about it since we were having a few troubles, thats not Si's doing, as it was a Leader acting without Si's consent. If I could go back in time, so that I could stop this Leader from coming to ya'll, I would.

Imagination, being gone for 4 months, came back and saw that Si was ranked 1st. Naturally, he wanted to brag about how well his clan was doing, who wouldn't? Netjak makes just as many bold comments as Si. You say you use this as a comeback to Si members bragging about being ranked 1st? You guys brag as much as Si, and coming back after an Si member making a boasting comment with the "Dead Period" excuse is you guys trying to get in a cheap shot, in my opinion. The fact is you can't sit there all rightous and call Si for bragging. You yourself call yourself the "Brag King of Netjak". Si doesn't have a huge ego, we're proud of ourselves, why wouldn't we be. And imagination may have stated what started this conversation, but FryLock was the one to jump up and try to put him in his place. And The Prophet saying "Join Si. They let anyone in." added fuel to the fire.

We didn't drop our standards. We're here to play, and have fun. No where in our "standards" did it say that combining with other clans wasn't allowed. We looked at this and the first thing that came to minds when we thought about merging was the crap we'd take for it. But we could care less, we liked CH, we liked their members, and this move would benefit both clans. You guys think we did this just so we could be number one? You think Si's whole goal in this game is to outdue netjak at every chance possible? If you do, you give yourselves more credit that you should. Sure there'a a rivalry, but you guys aren't our biggest priority. Our biggest priorities right now is running an innerclan tourney, and a forum upgrade. And apparently, according to you guys, sucking in clans, mass recruiting, and lowering our standards, just so we can outrank you guys. Personally, I want you guys to pass us. You say you can, do it. Wanna stop Si members from bragging, get better. Then when you guys get ranked 1st, you can say "Heh, they even merged with the 3rd largest clan on Banff, and they still can't outdue us". Not just sit in the forums, coming back at bragging members with past events.

And Rev, we don't care. That is the only place where golds from other servers can play. When a member of a clan from lets say GL goes there, and their clan isn't wanting to have a Rev clan, they're welcome to join. If you're not a spammer, cheater, and can have a good convo. By all means, we welcome you with open arms. This has been our policy since Rev was made. You guys didn't seem to have a problem with it back then. And frankly, we could care less.

-Rogue_Wolf

[Jonspen]

Ask ViS about this, ask KwOzmaj about this

I stopped reading when I read this, because I think I caught the drift pretty fast.

I was one of those ViS members, I'll have you know. I remember playing you on banff, so you should know.

We did not fall apart due to lack of leadership or, loss of bonds. We all left as a group to go to legends, as a group.

I now read the rest. And personally, I have no problem with your reasoning, and at the time (If I ever did flame you) I didn't know the facts, infact, you could call me a netjak n00b.

So basically, Im not botherd on the way the other netjakkers handle this, but I would like to keep my status with SI, clean.

[Rogue_Wolf]

I apologize, Jonspen. KwOzmaj fell apart, to my knowledge because KWarrior and ozmaj had some differences, but this was long ago, so I may have it wrong. Then ViS was formed from the remnants of ViS. Many old ViS members who came to join Si said that there came a time when all the members in ViS talked about was how Si sucked. When ViS left, according to you, as a group, we got a load of your members. The only members I know of who left and went to Legends were you, ozmaj58, KWarrior, Traabi/Kaabi, and Smubeht. Most of the rest joined Si. Even ViS's former leader joined Si. But I'll take your word for it since I didn't know what was going on behind the scenes. Again, I'm sorry if I offended you.

-Rogue_Wolf

[The Prophet]

Talking about mamby pamby BS. All you guys have done is thrown shots at us about you being so better. And yes we did to when we were on top but that’s because we were better. You guys consume a few clans and think you are the big dogs. If being #1 doesn't matter then keep your mouths shut.

You guys are still cheating on the clan websites ranking. The voting link on your site votes a 5 when clicked and doesn’t give an option.

Respect would be given when respect is earned. You consume clans to get top ranking and cheat to get top website ranking. And you say all you care about is a clan tourney and upgrading your forums, please.

Rogue, you guys aren’t fooling anyone. Best thing to do is give it a rest.

[Jonspen]

Not at all.

Most of them didn't actually come, your right.

But the majority did come with me and oz to legends, and we still play to this day.

Especially as ozmaj is in netjak, and Ripple was previously.

[Rogue_Wolf]

Talking about mamby pamby BS. All you guys have done is thrown shots at us about you being so better. And yes we did to when we were on top but that’s because we were better. You guys consume a few clans and think you are the big dogs. If being #1 doesn't matter then keep your mouths shut.

Prophet, I'm tired of arguing with you. You have nothing new to bring to the conversation. I have tried to be as nice as I could, since I respect your clan. I apologized when I was wrong, I edited my posts when I found out what I typed was false, and I asked you guys to pass Si just so that all this shit would stop. But you continue to come back with smack, even after I've just apologized to one of your members. We think we're better than you, you think you're better than us. Thats it, period. We didn't consume clans, we joined, but you choose to be an ass and refer to it as such. Its not a sign of weakness, it was smart. We gained a new group of awesome guys, and our power as a clan increased. We didn't just do it to be number one. When the merge first went into place, you guys liked the thought of competition. Pretty much a "Bring it on" attitude, and now, look where we're at. Being #1 doesn't matter, we know we're a good clan, but denying that wanting to be ranked 1st would be a lie. There is no clan out there who wants to be ranked 1st.

You guys are still cheating on the clan websites ranking. The voting link on your site votes a 5 when clicked and doesn’t give an option.

Not sure what you're talking about, but if anything it was unintentional. Meletus has since changed it. Also, the vote ammount doesn't count, Bills said that it was the ammount of hits/outs and such. We did not try to cheat, it was just a website error.Think what you what, but this is how it is.

Respect would be given when respect is earned. You consume clans to get top ranking and cheat to get top website ranking. And you say all you care about is a clan tourney and upgrading your forums, please.

I remember a time when half the dominant clans in TAO were against netjak. I remember when Meletus was asked to let Si join the "Movement against Netjak". We were askes to jump you guys at evey chance possible. Meletus felt bad, and never gave us the order to go along with it. That was a time when you were the most disrespected clan here(Save TimeAssassins). Now you're one of the most dominant clans in all of TAO. You have earned respect. I can see that, though I don't respect many of your members. If you do not choose to show Si respect, you have your right to your own opinion. Though being the longest running, most successful clan on FPS has earned us respect in atleast a few people's eys, if not yours. I have nothing against netjak, I just don't like you, Prophet, but I know you could care less. You think we consume clans to get top ranking, and cheat to get 2nd, not even first in the clan websites. Thats a load of shit. I told you guys to pass us, but since then I've just seen netjakers posting the same things over, and over on the forums. As for the clan websites page, who gives a flyin f*ck. Pass us there if you have such a problem with it.

Rogue, you guys aren’t fooling anyone. Best thing to do is give it a rest.

You're right, we aren't fooling anyone, since we're not attempting to fool anyone. I'll give it a rest, since we could be arguing for the rest of the day.

Si and netjak are the top clans in TAO. The way we got there is debateable by both clans. But the facts are, we will never agree on who is the best clan. You know this, I know this, whats the point of arguing.

-Rogue_Wolf

[Jonspen]

I remember when Meletus was asked to let Si join the "Movement against Netjak".

I know this isn't helping netjak's side in this, but it has to be said.

I remember being one of those members against netjak in the movement, when I was a ViS.

But things have changed dude, your right, we gained the respect through honest ways, and in no way am I saying that the way you earned respect was dis-honest, you just got it faster and in an easier way than us, int he actions you took.

[The Prophet]

Disrespected cause we pwnd everyone. SI wasnt up for the challenge thats why. More, I have to go.

[AssassinOfHeros]

Well, this is coming in late, but I'm not just going to stand here while things that need to be said go un-said. What makes a clan good? Why is netjak any better than TimeAssassins? Why is Si any better? It's the members. Not necesairly skill, but attitude. Sure I'm beaten by netjak, I know this and I try to give a good game to them. It's the reason the mage bomb (invented by netjak) is so unpopular, because it's just not fun for the other person. Mage bomb games last about 10 minutes, and it requires almost no skill. Enough about the mage bomb. A clan is judged by it's members, if you're going to be talking smack about our members, who cares? If we're going to be talking smack about your members, who cares? No one, the only thing it accomplishes is lowering respect. I sincerily thought we were past this, it's not really a question of who can burn the best. Now, you may say that this is tactics arena, and therefore we should prove ourself out on the battle field. Does your units care what the writing in blue below your name is? No, of course not. As soon as you bring clans into the mix, the skill level determiner of clans is not the whole story.

Rather than continue and argue here, we should just see that talking smack gets no one anywhere. We can just agree that we're both extremly good clans, with different takes on a lot of things. Let's just let the TAO community sort out and decide who will triumph. If the answer to that is a split rule, than that's the answer. Let's not try and degrade each other, but instead embrace each other in friendship.

[Poop Slinger]

We actually thought it was a stupid idea to promote a war against a clan full of noobs who found a way to cheat the game.. I'm not going in to why bombs are bad.. or why everyone kept asking me to say, "go ahead and jump every netjak loser.", which low and behold who comes to play but the biggest moron on the block.. Prophet you always talk so big.. with your "Si this and Si that.." and "netjak is better because we are this and that.." and "how low of you.." To run OUR clan the way we want to.

No d%#$head.. We weren't weak.. and we never were.. I don't care what Hugh and nads worked out.. I don't care what 12 says.. I don't care who said what your clan never won anything. Si never died.. Its still here.. and just like we told everyone on the SI forum.. I took a break to have a kid.. others left the country.. some were working summer jobs.. You believe that Si died.. or was dying because some people actually have lives outside of TAO, you might as well go kiss CD.. cause your making him proud with every stupid post you make..

You all say, "if Netjak didn't stop recruiting.." If this if that.. We guess what moron.. if we didn't tell people in the beginning not to join us but join netjak cause they need members... and we wanted some good ppl to play you wouldn't be around either... Hows that for IF's...

IF IF IF... guess what.. we live in the now.. Si exists and is the same proud clan it was since day one. We have players.. and bunch of cool ppl not elitist jerks who feel they need to dominate in every way.. and get jealous of their own shortcoming.. or bad decisions.

Our "merger" had nothing to do with stats. CH was worried they weren't gonna be around and they asked to join.. its not like we didn't know who the players were.. we have all played them.. and they are good people.. the same thing happened with the Rage on Army.

Regarding a open door policy.. whatever.. Banff still holds its own. Army does what its does and I never question Rogue or Jules. On GL Kools method is an interesting one that I support.. He invites.. plays and talks to them.. If he has to expel.. then that sucks.. but for the most part after a few games with other members and learning a little they stay and are glad to be in the clan. Our clan is about teaching players the game.. and helping them learn so they can enjoy it.

Now Rev.. You know how many times I invited someone and they Say.. "Wow I can't believe I'm finally in SI, Thanks." Just about every time. Same thing here on Rev as with the whole CH and rage thing.. we have played just about everyone.. Because we all play the golds.. and unlike you guys we have a respect for the players.. and their decisions.

Now search I thought you taught you boys right.. I respect you. What I'm tired of this dumb jealous hatred crap.. Every time I come here its all I read. Prophet and others stirring the pot to see what turns up.. You have your clan and they do whatever dumb things you do.. And we have our clan... and honestly the more I see posts that go this route the more I think what kind of jerks you invite into your clan.. I used to respect netjak...

[bludhoundz]

We have not been bragging about this for 6 months, like SI would. We have been defending ourselves with this against your constant bragging because SI topped Netjak in the rankings.

WaCk, I like you, but I disagree with this.

Its not like you guys don't brag, fine, some of us have inflated egos, but, we're not alone :rolleyes:. *I* may have done a little bragging about the rankings, but it was nothing serious, because I know stats don't mean all that much.

Edit : The above is merely posted because I'm a little fired up right now, and its a stupid argument; I'm not going to edit it out though, because people have a right to see it.

Now, this arguing is pissing me off, I don't give shit about which clan is 'better'. Is there a way to find out? NOOOOOO. So why are we arguing about it? Oh thats right, we like to argue like 5 year old kids over their trainsets or dollies. I'm tired of this nonsense from both clans. Its utter bullshit. Like your quote WaCk, in your sig? 'Take your netjak hate and shove it up your ass.' That quote applies perfectly to this situation.

Edit: Finished reading. Prophet, what exactly do you have against people who play an online game?

[theburning]

Is this fight seriously still continuing?

Both netjak.com and Strategic Insomniacs are good clans.
I don't think you'll find many people who will argue that.

The only real thing that can be argued is which clan has the better players.
We offered a war which you guys turned down. :)

I think we should all just cut it out.

[Rogue_Wolf]

Tournament actually, burning. Tournaments aren't as serious as Wars. The winner of the tourney had bragging rights. Winner of a war would destroy the losing clan, and take its members.

But I think the arguement has ended. Unless when The Prophet gets back, and has something to say.

-Rogue_Wolf

[theburning]

A tournament containing only SI and netjak?
There have been tons of tournaments in the past few months though!
Haven't those shown anything?

[The Prophet]

Nah, I am done. I definately think my point has gotten across. All of your posts prove that. Actually its hard to type for laughing so hard at Meletus. I wonder why he can't post as Meletus, hmmmm?


A tournament containing only SI and netjak?
There have been tons of tournaments in the past few months though!
Haven't those shown anything?Another jab and you question my motives. :rolleyes:

[theburning]

Another jab and you question my motives. :rolleyes:

I'm not trying to jab anyone.

I think this whole thing is silly.
The entire fight should just stop now.
We're both good clans.
Why not just leave it at that?

[Rogue_Wolf]

In the Rev tourney, not many Netjak.com members joined it.

The Tag Team Tourney, you apparently rigged it screwing them over.

We offered a fair and square tourney, but they declined.

*Shrugs*

(I don't want that to come off as egging netjak.com members. Just telling it like it is)

-Rogue_Wolf

[search66]

WTF... Everyone can just eatme.

[The Prophet]

If you want to end it, then shut your mouths.

[theburning]

In the Rev tourney, not many Netjak.com members joined it.

The Tag Team Tourney, you apparently rigged it screwing them over.

We offered a fair and square tourney, but they declined.

*Shrugs*

(I don't want that to come off as egging netjak.com members. Just telling it like it is)

-Rogue_Wolf

How did I rig it?
lol.

[theburning]

WTF... Everyone can just eatme.

My grey name on army 2 months ago was eatit !

[The Prophet]

You double posted, you post whore.

[Koolaid1]

Bullshit.

I got a random invite on a 1181 rated gold.

No asking, no talking, just an invite to SI. And not on a Jeffery account either.

Jeff, I invited your account Twin. I knew that was you, and I have always been on good terms with you, that is(for the most part) why I sent the invite. I always considered you a friend Jeff, I knew you were Twin, so I sent you an invite. Not my fault you took it as weak recruitment.

Now I have always respected NJ as a clan, but after we took over the point lead on the clan rankings, all you have done is tried to make excuses for losing the top spot.

[The Prophet]

OH God! Another one comes out of the wood works to put it's 2 cents in

[theburning]

You double posted, you post whore.

Double posting is necessary sometimes.

[Rogue_Wolf]

OH God! Another one comes out of the wood works to put it's 2 cents in

Note that these are all leaders that actually know whats going on in their clans. Or would you prefer our lower ranked members in here?

WTF... Everyone can just eatme.

We've passed the Si vs Netjak discussion. We're now talking about theburning, and why she'd name an account "eatit"... :p

-Rogue_Wolf

[Koolaid1]

OH God! Another one comes out of the wood works to put it's 2 cents in

Prophet, what the hell is that. In the game you and me are always cool, but you come here and I am no longer a friend or something?

[imagination]

ok this argument is now over ... IM SORRY I STARTED IT!!!!cant we all just get along lol

[Jeffery]

Jeff, I invited your account Twin. I knew that was you, and I have always been on good terms with you, that is(for the most part) why I sent the invite. I always considered you a friend Jeff, I knew you were Twin, so I sent you an invite. Not my fault you took it as weak recruitment.

Now I have always respected NJ as a clan, but after we took over the point lead on the clan rankings, all you have done is tried to make excuses for losing the top spot.
Um, try not to generalise there.

The ONLY thing I commented on was the random invite. Whether you know it was me or not, random invites is what all the n00b clans do all day long. Try sitting in the lobby clanless for a day, and see who invites you constantly. It gets irritating fast. You were the 20th person to invite me that day.

As for the points. I haven't even looked at the clan rankings, as how many points a clan has means NOTHING. A good clan doesn;t have the most or even the best players. It has a group that comes together, enjoys each others company, and has fun.
I was against their beiong a clan ranking system, and think it is still a bad idea, as it encourages clans to compete by just adding random members. (not a dig at anyone)
New clans see the list, and try and grow as quickly as possible, and that tends to lead to a crash and burn.

[Koolaid1]

Um, try not to generalise there.

The ONLY thing I commented on was the random invite. Whether you know it was me or not, random invites is what all the n00b clans do all day long. Try sitting in the lobby clanless for a day, and see who invites you constantly. It gets irritating fast. You were the 20th person to invite me that day.

As for the points. I haven't even looked at the clan rankings, as how many points a clan has means NOTHING. A good clan doesn;t have the most or even the best players. It has a group that comes together, enjoys each others company, and has fun.
I was against their beiong a clan ranking system, and think it is still a bad idea, as it encourages clans to compete by just adding random members. (not a dig at anyone)
New clans see the list, and try and grow as quickly as possible, and that tends to lead to a crash and burn.

Ok, I can understand the random invite thing. I guess because I don't see you at GL much I just thought it was a cool thing, so I sent an invite. It wasn't random, random would be, "oh look, someone with 1100 stats. Let me send an invite." I know who you were and didn't care about your stats.

As for the clan rankings thing, that wasn't directed towards you at all. I was just stating this all started with the clan rankings.

And, Prophet...What caused you to lash out at me like that? This is just a game, no need to get mad over this.

[Jonspen]

koolaid just reversed everything I talked about with Rouge_wolf....:D

The understanding I got from Rouge_Wolf...Is that you are not trying to be #1, your just trying to have a group of friends that talk at night.....

As what the majority of netjak have seen this as :

An opportunity to over-come netjak, then brag about it and rub it in....

I think we have all misunderstood eachother along the lines here....

But the one crucial question I would like to ask both Si and Nj.

Yes this game is competitive, but not to a standard where people spend the majority of their time flaming another person on the internet, So im asking you, what makes you think that flaming the other side is going to help anything?

Exactly, it wont...That is what I thought....

So lets stop this now, j33z.

[WaCk-HeAd]

Wrong, we didn't misunderstood eachother. I understood Meletus fine.

I'm a bit late with this, because of college, but I will not let that slide.

Meletus, I despise you, and hate everything about you.

SI began with the jabbing, Frylock and Rogue began a civil discussion. Of course we disagree, but we still respect eachother. This is a forum, a place for such discussions. But noooo, not for Meletus, The retard himself, coming on here, making no point what so ever, besides cussing and pissing other people off. You're banned right? I wonder why..

You even read the posts from your fellow leaders?? Rogue talks about a down period, talks about having problems. Then you go trashing my post about a down time? You must be incompetent. You expect us to have respect for your clan, while you post like this.

Plus you and Rogue talk like SI doesn't brag "not elitist pricks who feel they need to domainate in every way..". I'll tell you this: TRY TO READ. This whole discussion began by a jab from SI. Read 90% of Bottle's posts! Read what theburning and Rogue are posting about the tournies. There's btw always a little jab in theburning's posts. Read what Blud says!!

And Blud, I know we like to brag as well, about BASHING every member in SI on army, and about being undefeated in Army against SI. Things like that. But if you look at SI in general, and at Netjak in general. I still think SI is worse than Netjak.

But I don't even mind jabs, or discussion, or bragging (I love bragging, because often it will result in a good battle) because mostly they are in GOOD fun. I mind you, Meletus, you make things personal, you make things serious. You seriously have something against Netjak. When there's absolutely no need to. I didn't want to discuss this in the first place, look at my first post. Yet when the discussion went on, I couldn't help myself. To me there is no trouble between SI and Netjak, there never was on my part. There's only trouble with you. I can't believe your posts, and can not believe that anyone respects you.

Again, Meletus, as soon as you're done bending over for CD, read the posts of your fellow clanmembers/leaders, and then decide what to post. You god damn retard.

Rogue and Theburning, please. How many tournies did we enter? I messed up the Tag-Tourney, while Frylock and Roody had beaten BG, I was the one who lost.

(Besides the fact that I blame myself for screwing the tourney for netjak. DR even said that he would have handled it differently. I think you put up a great tourney, but your call was wrong about me waiting another hour. So talking about how you would be able to screw the tourny for us, well letting me wait till 4 o'clock was a way.)

Not doing clantournies is our policy. May I remind you all of the point you're so desperately holding on to? "Don't be negative about the way we run things in our clan. "

And Rogue, you never pissed me off, I respect you because of the way you handle things.

Meletus, whenever you're on, and you feel like beating the crap out of a netjak, because we're such "assholes". Come to Army, or PM me. I'll be more than happy to be that netjak. You can show me everything you got, and you might even kill a unit. Grey or Gold, I don't care. Or are you banned from playing as well?

I'm sorry if I sturred things up again, but if you read Meletus' post objectively, and then judge me, you'll understand I couldn't let this slide.

P.S. Don't compare Search's posts with Metelus's, they're from another caliber, and can't even be compared.

[Jonspen]

Heck no need to apolagize, this is about netjak, your free to your opinion, if you haven't already...

I think mel took it abit far this time, and Im not quite sure what happend during this tourny...

But I dont understand, how flaming eachtother will help?

Let Si have the satisfaction, let them think what they want..If you know the facts, then nothing else matters. People can judge Si and netjak on what the see, what the members act like, and they're skillfulness on the battle field.

Being no.1 all the time isn't exactly relevant to these things, because anyone can make no.1 if they cheat, ect ect. Im not saying Si cheated in anyway, because I dony want to start that arguement. All im saying is, if you really think that them beating us because of joining clans will make us lose respect, and look n00bish, then your wrong.

[The Prophet]

Jonspen, I agree. Arguing doesn't do anything. I wasn't trying to argue. Imagination came on boasting how "SI pwns all". That is a jab to netjak cause we do strie to be the best as all clans do. But to have a clan that mass recruited and then claim their victory is BS. I don't care what clan is would have been. Yes they are #1 and I accept that just say why you are #1.

Koolaid & Rogue, I am not mad. I really and honestly could care less who is #1. Rogue you said you hated me but I don't see the need. Just a friendly arguement to me. Koolaid, I just want it to be over but you know after reading Wack's post, I don't think it will.

Meletus went overboard with that one. He resulted in name calling and childish behavior. Sad bu tit directly reflects the attitude of your whole clan. So it proves all the BS you all have been saying.

[Thargor]

Well. I leave one of my threads alone too long and it becomes a pissing match.


*The Following Editorial Is Not Directed At Any One Person Or Clan*

"The hate is swelling in you now. Take your Jedi weapon. Strike me down with all of your anger, and you journey toward the dark side will be complete!"

"No!"

"It is unavoidable. It is your...destiny."





Well the emperor was evil then, and hes still evil. Relax people! Its a game, really! Only in the online games, where you dont have talk face to face will normal people hang on to things like this so long.

SI: You've been number one in the rankings since October 19th. Why then are you still acting so defensive? BE NO. 1. Get rid of this inferiority complex you carry around. Stop verbally sniping at all/any of the clans behind you. Stop acting like your worried God's going to wake up one day and realize you really are a bad clan, and banish you to the hinterlands. You are a good clan.

Netjak: We've been second in the rankings since October 19th. Why? Cause SI has more ranked players then we do. Is this likely to change any time soon? No. Again, why? Because recruiting has never been a top priority in netjak. When i first became a leader in netjak, I was a a big proponent of going on a major recruitment drive. But y'all steered me right. Thats not what netjak ever was, and its not what netjak is. Netjak has never grown fast. But we have grown well. The netjak server colonization plan has now been copied by the other two of the top three clans, proof of the strength of netjak. We are the most elite of the elite clans. People can love or hate aspects of elitism, but the facts are the facts. We have the most creative setup designers, copied by players throughout all the servers. We have the most spied upon message boards! We have a flash and a flair that begins with the coolest of names! And there is no denying we have some of the most skilled tacticians ans strategists to play the game. We are a family. Have fun!



[playful banter]
Netjak Rocks! go netjak! SI Army, eat my shorts! :P
[/playful banter]

Peace. I mean it.

[Jonspen]

Your on the same channel, my friend.

Pro is obviously angry, because as a leader, he is outraged at the fact they claim glory in the way they did it.

Well pro, I've seem the majority of SI apolagize 9At least rouge, anyway) to you for this, because the member that returned, didn't know what had happend, and assumed they did it by getting stat as a single group, and bragged, who wouldn't?

I know for a fact, if netjak were owning at #1, and you had just returned to see this, the first thing you see is NJ owning SI at the top my loads, you would instincly start bragging your ass off to Si members? Right.

So, this all started from a mis-understanding, and both Netjak and Si acted Childishly to this, I meen. You could have just asked what ws going on in a calm fasion, instead of shouting you heads off and cussing.

I dont mind a disscussion, but a row is not what Tharg wanted his thread to turn into.

Just remember, this is a game folks, not a backstreet ally with a gangwar. Punks. :cool:

[search66]

I guess my quick puns and lack of sincerity went by the wayside... I think things like this are grand. The bantering between SI and NJ are classic, and it's like a battle over the Gaza Strip...

As much as I respect the "original" SI crew (I have little respect for the merger, except for Blud), you can't argue numbers. Whine all you want, numbers don't lie.

More players = Higher rankings

No one can argue that. Do I believe that SI is watered down? Hell yeah. And none of the core SI members will deny that. Is that enough reason for netjak to pounce on SI? Hell yeah.

I encourage my crew to stick with their guns. My only advice here, is not to stoop to a "name-calling" game... it's just silly.

[Poop Slinger]

Anger management.. breathe in.. breathe out.. it wasn't cause of my ill temper that I was banned. I was banned because someone doesn't like the truth being handed out.. and cause I got paypal to give my my money back for his stupid denile of services.

How often have I posted like a jerk-off..?? three times now I can think of... and they were all provoked. Yes, I take some of the statements serious. Just like some of your members. I have been here and played honorably, helped other clans succeed, help players pay for accounts, spent time teaching people strategies, talk with guys about home problems, and help lead a clan that has been around for over a year now. I see a lot of the Si members as family and I stick to my guns to defend that. You claim to be a brethen so you should understand that.

You guys provided the material for you own ribbing.. you proke the ribbing far more than could be imagined. There isn't a hate towards netjak as a whole.. and I don't think many of our members do HATE anyone. I have mentioned before the guys I think are good guys... but there is a hatred towards your comments about the past that no one can change.. Its like writing history. Only the ones left standing get to tell the story and I'm tired of the story being filled with lies and half truths. I post the way I post in this conversations cause it actually gets to you guys. When others post their thoughts all you do is keep going and going around in circles.. When I post you hate me directly and then these posts slowly seem to die off and we can play the game again.

Wack-head I really don't care if you hate me or if Prophet hates me, and if you wanna play and win or lose sometime thats great. Thats your choice. And I agree with you Frylock and Rogue were just fine with there little banter, but is becoming tiresome. And yes I read all this fun loving stuff before I post... If you read my post which I know you loved to.. you'll even see I refer to things eariler in the conversation... Its not the best piece of literature I have ever written that is for sure..

It seems there are a bunch of level head players out there in both clans. Its good to see. It is a obivious that there are some good people getting thrown into the mix of a bad thing here. I really don't care who is the best.. or who has the best members.. We each think what we do on that.. I'm proud of my clan.. you be proud of yours.

"Netjak beat Si, if we kept recruiting" is just like saying, "Japan won War World II, if they didn't stop after bombing Pearl Harbor." Neither event happened so we never will know if they were true.

But this IF crap has to stop.. The ribbing should just stop completely because all it is doing is stirring hate and wasting peoples days..

[Jeffery]

You're all a bunch of poo poo heads!

I have blown up repeatedly at just about evertything in this forums, and this argument is even too silly for me. Arguing over that little digit number is retarded, as it means nothing. You all should just give it up, and leave it to Vival and Kal to act like jackasses, for arguing this out repeatedly will get you no where.

[Jonspen]

Just remember, this is a game folks, not a backstreet ally with a gangwar. Punks

Your right my friend!!

You people have way too much free time. :cool:

[The Prophet]

Talk about back pedaling, haha. Meletus’ first post sums up everything and I say screw SI, too many members to list individually but not meant for all.

[Office_Shredder]

yeah... starting now I'm just gonna neg rep everyone who keeps arguing.

And to help end the arguments even further, whenever I beat someone from SI or netjak I'll post a screenie with a comment "Another one bites the dust"

Think that would work?

[Jonspen]

That's the spirit.....Chant with me

Screw Si.
Screw Si.
They smell of peeeeeee.
Go netjak.
Go netjak.
Time for the netjak whack-attack!

[theburning]

Your right my friend!!

You people have way too much free time. :cool:

It seems I do too.
I get 10 hours of sleep a night lately.

Here's the weird thing though.
The last 4 days in a row I've woken up between 12:55 and 1 PM.
That's a 5 minute span 4 days in a row!

[Jonspen]

Your just weird. ;)

[theburning]

Your just weird. ;)

Probably!
Another weird thing is that I think I have less energy now that I'm getting twice as much sleep as I was getting last week.

[Jonspen]

Do you drink coffe by anychance?

[theburning]

Do you drink coffe by anychance?

Why do you ask?
I drink coffee sometimes. I'm not one of those people who you can't talk to until they've had their morning coffee.

[The Prophet]

Here OS here is another one to "neg rep". Screw you too cause it's none of your business. Well, it is expected for a post whore to stick there nose in.

[Jonspen]

Why do you ask?
I drink coffee sometimes. I'm not one of those people who you can't talk to until they've had their morning coffee.

Thought ya were a caffene addict. :cool:

And pro, dont start the argument again, just walk away....

[The Prophet]

And pro, dont start the argument again, just walk away....

This is a different arguement :cool:

[Jonspen]

Your just having another snap at a Si member, which will start the whole arguement all over again.

Just dont.

[The Prophet]

Don't tell me, tell bs OS

[Jonspen]

Yea, OS is being abit annoying giving out neg rep, even I got some.

SWARM OS WITH NEG REP! RAWR!

[Thargor]

It seems I do too.
I get 10 hours of sleep a night lately.

Here's the weird thing though.
The last 4 days in a row I've woken up between 12:55 and 1 PM.
That's a 5 minute span 4 days in a row!

I wake up within 15 minutes of 6 am every day. But I have a combination alarm clock/3 yr old daughter that does it for me.

[theburning]

Thought ya were a caffene addict. :cool:

I don't think I am.
Other than occasional coffee I don't intake much caffeine.
Aside from all the chocolate I eat !

[Jonspen]

Yyyyyyyyooouuuu lllliiiikkkkeeeee ssssssuuuuugggggaaaaarrrrr tttttooooooo?

[search66]

My goal here is to acrue so much negative rep, that I turn fully to the dark side.

Way to be the SI rudder, burney... someone give that girl some corn nuts.

[The Prophet]

Way to be the SI rudder, burney... someone give that girl some nuts.

Some what?

[Jonspen]

You know, nuts?

As in, "HOLY COW, THAT MONKEY HAS MY NUTS! I payed 70cents for them!" or as in "Man, these nuts taste good, if I didn't have to pay, I would eat them all day"

[Poop Slinger]

Or like the pirate with the steering wheel in his pants..
"Arg.. your driving me nuts."

[Jonspen]

Well said. ;)

[The Prophet]

How about you punks sign your negative reputations. Freaking pricks.

[theburning]

How about you punks sign your negative reputations. Freaking pricks.

Agreed.
If only search66 would have taken your advice on this one!

[Office_Shredder]

Jonspen, I negged you because I truly dislike your avatar.

Prophet, I negged you because I truly dislike your attitude. If you would prefer, I could just go down the list of everyone who posted in the previous argument and neg them, but I'm a bit too lazy to do that if no one else will appreciate it (I was considering it)

[psychofireman]

what is all the fus about rep? peoepl who are hated know there hated and same for people who are liked, so what does it really matter about rep? and why are some people geting so bent out of shape about everything. its either bitching about clans or rep or he said she said. i thought alot of people here are older than 10, why don't they start acting like it??

[Office_Shredder]

I don't know what prophet's problem is, he just seems to be mad because I repped him for always being angry with little provocation (although I shouldn't be surprised).

Rep is more symbolic than anything else

[The Prophet]

Sounds like only netjak got negged by you but I couldn't care freaking less what you do.

[psychofireman]

my earlier post was more than just about 1 person, i have read many different threads and there has been nothing but bitching about the same things regardless of thread titles.

[The Prophet]

my earlier post was more than just about 1 person, i have read many different threads and there has been nothing but bitching about the same things regardless of thread titles.

My post was to OS and I was very much done talking to you.

[Office_Shredder]

no prophet, only you got negged here. Jonspen got negged before I read through this for a completely unrelated incident.

[psychofireman]

funny thing is my post was to os too. EDIT==>cause personally i couldn't give 2 shits about you and therefore normally don't waist my time talking to the wall of your thick narrow minded skull. and by no means should anyone think that this is aimed at a clan or motivated by any other way this is just between me and god...i mean the prophet<===EDIT

[Rogue_Wolf]

I'm not here to fight, but to comment on people.

Recently, Wack-Head and OMK gave me POSITIVE rep. I really like Wack's. He said that he didn't necessarily like what I said, but he liked how I said it. This shows that he's very mature, and I wanna commend Netjak on these two great members.

On the other hand, I got negatively repped by an anonymous person, who said "SI Punk". I know who did it, I'm thinking about returning the favor, but am probably not since I'm tired of wasting my time on this guy.

Anyway, Wack-Head and OMK go up on my coolometer !

-Rogue_Wolf

[Jonspen]

I dont understand how OS can "hate" an avatar, it doesn;t have emotions, he doesn't talk, all he does is dances. If you give neg for dancin', you deserve to be named party pooper.

[Office_Shredder]

I'll add that to my sig :cool:

[Jonspen]

;)

Oh and, Im a freakin' geneious!

Look what I made....

http://img142.exs.cx/img142/7581/taocoolnesspolicypolice3zh.gif

Pretty aye?

[The Prophet]

On the other hand, I got negatively repped by an anonymous person, who said "SI Punk". I know who did it, I'm thinking about returning the favor, but am probably not since I'm tired of wasting my time on this guy.

Anyway, Wack-Head and OMK go up on my coolometer !

-Rogue_Wolf

I sign my reps so don't look at me. I am not scared like the rest of ya. Also, I doubt Wack and OMK could a rat's ass what you think.

[search66]

Agreed.
If only search66 would have taken your advice on this one!

Hehe... word!

[FryLock]

*yawn*

Looks like I missed the fireworks. I'm home right now for break and have limited access to internet. But gee, I'm not sorry I missed it.
Rogue, Mel (in his cooler moments ;)) and Wack all stated the same good thing - that nj and SI are both good clans. SI is bigger, however that came to be. They are #1. If that little number means so much...well...it shouldn't. Online game, people. I'd rather be ranked #15, 50 or 500 and still have my netjak AND SI friends than become obsessed over who's rated higher. Honestly, what does being #1 give you? Free gold accounts? No. More dates? Er, I hope not. Etc. It's a little bragging thingy, that's all. So let's not get too fired up over it, eh?

And I gotta say burning, I really don't appreciate the little digs you throw in half your posts. If you've got something to say, come out and say it, don't just hint around the edges with this "tourny" babble. Hell, you're sooooo beloved and worshipped by the community that you could say water is chocolate and people would lap it up. So please, drop the little digs or just come out and say it. I do realize that perhaps you were provoked by rather...overt...expressions from some of our members, but that's no reason to respond in kind. Be cool.

As for the "fair and square" tourny that SI offered - we can call it a tourny, but if it's just SI v nj, we all know what it really is. And netjak never has and never will do that. Doesn't matter who challenges us.

And finally - for those that do care about numbers...
clan rankings, si = 1, nj = 2. I grant you that.
Individual rankings - SI has only one "top 3" member (Botts!) on ANY of the 4 servers here. Netjak has at least 1 "top 3" in ALL of the servers, and has 2 out of the three in Banff and Rev. Hmm. :D

[WaCk-HeAd]

I feel bad at ruining Thargor's thread.

Sorry bro,

I think the whole deal is over, and the people who still want to say anything has to wait till the next blow out. I think we can assume that NJ and SI both rock, and that there still are still no hard feelings between the clans. Of course there are still some personal problems between certain members, but those do not represent the entire clan.

And lets not forget the good things. We deliver great entertainment for eachother, and not only in the arena. :)
(It's a great way to train my English.)


Edit: OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH We don't even need to argue ever again. Netjak has 1 more top 10 player in all the four servers combined! OOOOOHhhh

OWNED !!!!
!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!
!!!

:rolleyes:

(hopes he didn't make an error while counting.)

[Office_Shredder]

I'm highly amused by the anonymous negative rep I got for one of my posts :) (I have an inkling of a suspicion as to who it was)

[max2k106]

*points to Barney*

wasn't me

[Office_Shredder]

Yes it was! You're just jealous of my insanely good looking armpit hair.

[max2k106]

damn you're right :( where do you GET that kind of styling jell for underarm hair? :confused:

[Office_Shredder]

I get it at Pit-Bath and Beyond

[Bottle]

*yawn*

Looks like I missed the fireworks. I'm home right now for break and have limited access to internet. But gee, I'm not sorry I missed it.
Rogue, Mel (in his cooler moments) and Wack all stated the same good thing - that nj and SI are both good clans. SI is bigger, however that came to be. They are #1. If that little number means so much...well...it shouldn't. Online game, people. I'd rather be ranked #15, 50 or 500 and still have my netjak AND SI friends than become obsessed over who's rated higher. Honestly, what does being #1 give you? Free gold accounts? No. More dates? Er, I hope not. Etc. It's a little bragging thingy, that's all. So let's not get too fired up over it, eh?

And I gotta say burning, I really don't appreciate the little digs you throw in half your posts. If you've got something to say, come out and say it, don't just hint around the edges with this "tourny" babble. Hell, you're sooooo beloved and worshipped by the community that you could say water is chocolate and people would lap it up. So please, drop the little digs or just come out and say it. I do realize that perhaps you were provoked by rather...overt...expressions from some of our members, but that's no reason to respond in kind. Be cool.

As for the "fair and square" tourny that SI offered - we can call it a tourny, but if it's just SI v nj, we all know what it really is. And netjak never has and never will do that. Doesn't matter who challenges us.

And finally - for those that do care about numbers...
clan rankings, si = 1, nj = 2. I grant you that.
Individual rankings - SI has only one "top 3" member (Botts!) on ANY of the 4 servers here. Netjak has at least 1 "top 3" in ALL of the servers, and has 2 out of the three in Banff and Rev. Hmm. :D
Just the sort of post I expect from fry. A lot of good sense, and then a sneaky brag about NJ stuck in at the bottom just when everyone was admiring him.

Anyway, the only reason you have one of the top 3 on every server is because you have at least one A* player who plays all the time on every server. Maybe we should spread our top players around as well, instead of concentrating them on Banff. (Where, incidentally, we now hold 38 of the top 100 places; over 1/3rd of the best players on the server.) ;)

[theburning]

And I gotta say burning, I really don't appreciate the little digs you throw in half your posts. If you've got something to say, come out and say it, don't just hint around the edges with this "tourny" babble. Hell, you're sooooo beloved and worshipped by the community that you could say water is chocolate and people would lap it up. So please, drop the little digs or just come out and say it. I do realize that perhaps you were provoked by rather...overt...expressions from some of our members, but that's no reason to respond in kind. Be cool.


I was being cool.
I wasn't attacking because I felt no need to.
Actually, Search gave me negative rep for not 'adding fuel to the fire'.
I suppose I can't please everyone though.

My little 'jabs' as you call them were jokes.
A little bit of braggin, which you like to do as well!
If you read over my posts I said that both SI and netjak are great clans.
I then proceeded to try and lighten the mood with my discussion over my excessive sleeping and ridiculous grey names.

PS. Your comment on the chocolate was interesting. It also made me quite hungry.

[FryLock]

Just the sort of post I expect from fry. A lot of good sense, and then a sneaky brag about NJ stuck in at the bottom just when everyone was admiring him.


w00t! Amen, buddy! And hey now, that brag wasn't sneaky, it was blatantly obvious, just like OS's, uh, armpit hair. :eek:

[Office_Shredder]

I have a great new idea! We can determine if SI or netjak is better through a simple test. I lock everyone in SI and netjak in a room, then come back in half an hour. Whoever is conscious gets to participate in a popular vote to determine the better clan.

[WaCk-HeAd]

Maybe we should spread our top players around as well

Netjak has 1 more top 10 player in all the four servers combined!


[Sarcasm] Yeah That's right. One Whole Player more! Don't you feel owned right about now! *evil laughter*

And Yes, you have more people in the top 100 in all the four servers combined, but you know that everyone lower than the top 10 sucks!

And I didn't even count Legends...

And you know Stats determine skill, a 1400 player is ALWAYS better than a 1380 player [Sarcasm]

*looks at Office_Shredder when putting down the "sarcasm" and points to the wack-head vs cokeman thread.*

[Office_Shredder]

[sarcasm] way to spread the fire wack! I'm gonna have to try my new neg-rep bot on you.... it'll get you down to -1000 rep in 5 minutes[/sarcasm

two can play the sarcasm game (wouldn't that be a cool program though?)

[Jonspen]

I'm highly amused by the anonymous negative rep I got for one of my posts :) (I have an inkling of a suspicion as to who it was)

I know you meen me. :cool:

Nah, I already gave you pos prep not that long ago, Im pretty sure it was barney, or was it elmo?

[WaCk-HeAd]

Sorry, you're right. But I got like 6 rep points from your pos rep, so it's all good :)

Anyway, a fully sarcastic TV programme. We gotta talk to Jeff about this. Because that would be freaky, you will never know when to take him serious or not, plus amazing comedy.

It's like the movie. Man on the moon with Jim Carrey. You never knew when he was serious.


Edit: God damn it Jonspen, That's the second time in a row you just post before me. You should be neg repped for it!

[Jonspen]

Not my fault your a post whore. ;)

[Office_Shredder]

already done wack :cool:

Just kidding :D

[WaCk-HeAd]

Not my fault your a post whore. ;)

postwhore smostwhore

I'll have your head!

[Jonspen]

And I'll have your "Wack-Head"

Hehehehe....

Man I suck.

[Office_Shredder]

you just got burned *purposely ambiguous statement*

[psychofireman]

I dont understand how OS can "hate" an avatar, it doesn;t have emotions, he doesn't talk, all he does is dances. If you give neg for dancin', you deserve to be named party pooper.
i like your ava

[Jeffery]

Talk to me about what?

Making a TV show? I'm up for it. Our Studuo should be rewired by the new year.

[psychofireman]

i could be like ron jeremy or something like that in it.....and i wouldn't enev need to shave my back

[Jonspen]

Thanks for the compliment, psycho!

[WaCk-HeAd]

Talk to me about what?

Making a TV show? I'm up for it. Our Studuo should be rewired by the new year.

Cool, just buy me a ticket to America, and you've got yourself a TV host.

[Jonspen]

"Netjak Channel - All day all night!" "Now a word from our sponsers - Hugh's good ole' fashion beer company."

[Office_Shredder]

*black screen, slowly half fades to disaster scenes before fading out again*
*cue sad music*
Every day, hundreds of innocent victims are struck by nature's most terrible disaster... the noob horde. No one can predict where these will show up, or when. Tomorrow, even you could be a victim of one of these. Help out noob horde victims by calling 1-800-no-n00b1

[Twelve]

I've only got like an hour computer time in the library, and I spent like half of it reading this thread. Oh, what a good read that was...lol...stuff cracks me up. Go netjak. You know what's up. :)

And ya'll know that if I wasn't retired, I would've torn this thread up!! I can't BELIEVE some of the ludicrous stuff I would have return backhanded at some of these kids!! But ya'll did quite well without me. *smile*.

The ruckus has been brought...netjak style!!!

12

[Jonspen]

Word.

[Beast-Boy]

How are the clans ranked and sh!t? it confuses me!!!!!! can some one plzz tell me, thnx.

[WaCk-HeAd]

1: You Suck.
2: Your ranking will be substracted from 101
Example:
You're ranked 25. Then you will substract 25 from 101 which is 76. You are worth 76 points to your clan total. Your clan total = All your noob members scores together. Understand now, n00berina


(it was something like that, right frylock?)

[Hugh Junit]

I have a great new idea! We can determine if SI or netjak is better through a simple test. I lock everyone in SI and netjak in a room, then come back in half an hour. Whoever is conscious gets to participate in a popular vote to determine the better clan.

I have a better idea. Let's have a drinking contest.
Better yet, I'll put Nomar, roody, 66, Fry and myself up against the entire SI clan.
We'd have a room full of sleeping Insomniacs with their eyebrows shaved off. :cool:

[WaCk-HeAd]

That's something I would pay money for to see :)

[Jeffery]

I'll bring the cameras and make a reality show out of it,

[Rogue_Wolf]

Ah Hugh, touche'(That how you spell it? *Grabs dikshonary*)

Eyebrows are over-rated anyways...

Who wants nachos?

-Rogue_Wolf

[FryLock]

*hiccup*

"What?"

"What?!"

"WHAT?!"

"Oh, that. I, uh, always keep a pair, er, ah, a SPARE pair of boxers on my head. You know, in case I misplace the ones I, uh, started the night with. Don't you do it too? Oh, don't trip over the Bottle on your way out."

*hiccup*

"Oooh. My tummy feels funny..."

[psychofireman]

I have a better idea. Let's have a drinking contest.
Better yet, I'll put Nomar, roody, 66, Fry and myself up against the entire SI clan.
We'd have a room full of sleeping Insomniacs with their eyebrows shaved off. :cool:

sounds like a chalenge to me ...i'm game

[Hugh Junit]

Eyebrows are over-rated anyways...


I agree, Rogue.
That's what I kept telling this jackass who woke up under my pool table, about eight years ago.
He didn't seem convinced. :)

[Rogue_Wolf]

FryLock, you give me a case of the funnies...even though I didn't understand a word you said...

And Hugh, great minds think alike :cool:

-Rogue_Wolf

[Hugh Junit]

sounds like a chalenge to me ...i'm game

Your mouth's writin' checks your liver can't cash, amigo!
I'll drink you under the table and then ......I'll.........well......I'll take the table home and.......play Monopoly on it.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it. :cool:

[psychofireman]

i din't spend 10 yrs i the military to come out a light weight

[Hugh Junit]

i din't spend 10 yrs i the military to come out a light weight


Still, you'd better pack a lunch, psycho. :cool:

[psychofireman]

cool i could get waisted for my b day...but i don't think that would eb a good thing since after all i am at work

[FryLock]

*hiccup*

"What now?"

"Oh. That. Er. Uh...well...you know...leprechauns like privacy. Dammit, I mean...this is a dream. A baaaaad dream. Go back to sleeeep. What? I'm not hiding anything behind my back. Those are my eyebrows! Well, they grow back quickly. Especially mine. Oh...sod off!"

*hiccup*

"Why is everyone looking at me so weirdly?"

[Poop Slinger]

A drinking Contest eh?.. Now thats the type of challenge I've bee awaiting for.. Whats the posion? Just Beer? A simple Century Club Challenge perhaps? Shots of Southern Comfort? Irish Car Bomb? (for the pyro bomber in ya) Jager-Bombs?

Here is what I been playing I can't find the baord I've been using.. but Drining chess has become mel's new hobby..
http://store1.yimg.com/I/villagestreetwear_1822_414102619


edit:
found a sample of the rules (http://www.shotglasschess.com/rules.htm)

edit #2 Found my shot glasses set..
http://www.firebox.com/pic/p15b.jpg

[Hugh Junit]

Mel, you can name the poison, rules and the place. To be honest, you and nads are the only ones I was really worried about...as far as drinking goes. Hell, I don't even know if nads drinks anymore.
I know Bottle can drink, but he could NEVER keep up with me. No f***ing way.
:cool:

[Poop Slinger]

Two bad I missed this being brought up.. I would say Indiana Dunes.. December 31st :) But I assume you cannot make that... So we will have to make other arrangements.. and I will head your and nads way.. Pff would be there too I assume.

[psychofireman]

i would be there but the poison would ahve to be a hell of alot stronger than beer, i swear i piss more than i drink with beer

[Rogue_Wolf]

Even though I'm under-aged, I can still be ref ! Either that or you guys have to tell me when this will take place...that way I can play you guys while you're under teh influence. Then post about how I killt all ya'lls :cool:

"You are being arrested for PTWI...Playing Tactics While Intoxicated"

-Rogue_Wolf

[Jonspen]

You just got to let me join in the fun...

Slip your little bro a few will ya?

[Rogue_Wolf]

Jon, you're younger than me. Shame ! SHAME !

You can be line judge ! Or commentator !

-Rogue_Wolf

[WaCk-HeAd]

Hahahahahaha

You all crack me up.

Edit: God damn it, it wouldn't let me Pos rep anyone!
Still, positive rep for everyone! (someday)

[Jonspen]

Jon, you're younger than me. Shame ! SHAME !

You can be line judge ! Or commentator !

-Rogue_Wolf

Commentator?

Jeez who do you think ya are?

[search66]

i would be there but the poiso