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Spirit_Monger
01-19-2008, 10:53 PM
Ehh, I guess it could be the DoTs then, but it doesn't always and usually never happened.

Teacher, I was in the same position as you before I bought it and started playing. Once you get in the game you'll understand more of what each things is. There are also lists out there, some on the WoW forums, which explain general terms used.
If you still don't know you could always ask here.

Illusionist
01-19-2008, 11:00 PM
Just be careful...WoW ruins lives if you get too addicted. You'll find yourself one day 20 years later wondering "What happened?" Just know your limits. I got addicted to it...an then I broke the CD so I couldn't play it...but I'll play it whenever I go to a friend's house.

And no, years did not pass by before I broke it :P

The Coder
01-19-2008, 11:51 PM
So you didn't play it. LOL.

Funny stuff. You've steriotyped the game players.

Uggh. WoW won't let me play.

Mine
01-19-2008, 11:57 PM
Uggh. WoW won't let me play.

ZOMG me to /wrists

Wisher
01-19-2008, 11:58 PM
TAO IS OUR REsorT.

TheSilverRider
01-20-2008, 12:33 AM
I have been interested in purchasing this game, however, I must admit. Reading this thread makes me think twice. I don't understand half of the stuff that is being said. Perhaps, when I purchase the game, I read this thread in more detail to see if I understand it a little better.

Dude, i know EXACTLY what you mean. I came in here before stating like it was a different language but it all comes so quickly. Just start a new character, it all comes together. You will love it im sure, but believe me, i know EXACTLY how you feel right now. I have been where you are. :)

The Coder
01-20-2008, 12:45 AM
Yea, teach. Just hope you don't run into assholes like me or kyir in game. Well. Me depending on my mood.

Wisher
01-20-2008, 12:51 AM
Kyir's always an ass. Kinda like wizzy.

Kyir
01-20-2008, 01:06 AM
Yea, teach. Just hope you don't run into assholes like me or kyir in game. Well. Me depending on my mood.

...

STOP TALKING ABOUT ME BEHIND MY BACK.

...














...















IT'S MY BODY!

Kyir's always an ass. Kinda like wizzy.

An yet, we're both hilarious while you lack a sense of humor.

Wisher
01-20-2008, 01:09 AM
Ok.

Kyir
01-20-2008, 01:15 AM
Ok.

http://imagechan.com/img/image.php?id=4816

Wisher
01-20-2008, 01:18 AM
Yay 4 randomness.

Kyir
01-20-2008, 01:22 AM
Yay 4 randomness.

You clearly just broke the afformentioned rule.

Wisher
01-20-2008, 01:23 AM
Ok. Roar. Quote it now.

IPlayWoW
01-20-2008, 12:25 PM
Just be careful...WoW ruins lives if you get too addicted.

As does everything else if you get too addicted to it. Drugs, gambling etc, you have no arguement.

The Coder
01-20-2008, 07:38 PM
Hehe Mind Control + SM = Awesomeness

AlabamaBoy
01-20-2008, 08:02 PM
I went enhancement.

I retract all statements I made that said elemental was good.

I killed a lock in under five seconds.

...SECONDS.

Left and right rippers, WF on both, shamanistic rage and bloodlust, it's godly.

Spamming grounding totems and tremor with purge is also very very nice.

The Coder
01-20-2008, 08:48 PM
Yea, I destroy casters with low stamina in seconds.

Kyir
01-20-2008, 09:24 PM
Spamming grounding totems and tremor with purge is also very very nice.

...

You didn't do that before?

The Coder
01-20-2008, 10:32 PM
Wow. I put in a new UI mod while waiting for AB. I get back on, I enter. Bad decision. I've never been pwned so hardcore in my life.

Kyir
01-20-2008, 10:43 PM
Anyone feel like fighting on the PTR?

I'm bored -_-

Wisher
01-20-2008, 11:40 PM
Did a kara pug.

On attunemen, got Stalker's War Bands
Moroes bleh
Maiden bleh
Wolf bleh
Curator dropped t4 gloves which I won. I seriously pissed of a mage by winning them.
I also got an epic neck out of the run from badges of justice.

The Coder
01-20-2008, 11:42 PM
I was the only ally character in the top 10 in AB for damage done.

And I was #1 on a 36 shadow priest. I melted face.

Wisher
01-20-2008, 11:44 PM
Your an AB Whore. WSG is my favorite, probably because I play on my hunter or rogue, which is where they seem to be dominant in.

The Coder
01-21-2008, 05:07 AM
Did a kara pug.

On attunemen, got Stalker's War Bands
Moroes bleh
Maiden bleh
Wolf bleh
Curator dropped t4 gloves which I won. I seriously pissed of a mage by winning them.
I also got an epic neck out of the run from badges of justice.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TnMRynchdTY&feature=related

Your an AB Whore. WSG is my favorite, probably because I play on my hunter or rogue, which is where they seem to be dominant in.

OUR RELATIONSHIP IS SPECIAL! I hate WSG mostly because of hour long matches where you end up with like 10 honour at the end. AB the longer it goes, the more honour you tend to accumulate.

Spirit_Monger
01-21-2008, 05:31 AM
WSG that goes for an hour and then you end up losing is what really sucks.
I also hate retards in WSG, and in general.

Had our fc run right into a group of 9 alliance, obviously drops the flag.
I'm soloing their fc and he will drop it, but one of their twink rogues comes and kills me. Two seconds later their fc drops from my DoTs, but 3 other horde run right by me, so we end up loosing that game.

Wisher
01-21-2008, 09:35 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TnMRynchdTY&feature=related



OUR RELATIONSHIP IS SPECIAL! I hate WSG mostly because of hour long matches where you end up with like 10 honour at the end. AB the longer it goes, the more honour you tend to accumulate.
But you can PUG kara ! Getting to curator is pretty good for one:cool:
Is our relationship special?:huh:

WSG that goes for an hour and then you end up losing is what really sucks.
I also hate retards in WSG, and in general.

Had our fc run right into a group of 9 alliance, obviously drops the flag.
I'm soloing their fc and he will drop it, but one of their twink rogues comes and kills me. Two seconds later their fc drops from my DoTs, but 3 other horde run right by me, so we end up loosing that game.

WSG is way lame in the lower brackets unless you have super twinks on your side. at 70 most people have a fair shot to go rape the FC unless they are heavily guarded.

TheSilverRider
01-21-2008, 11:52 AM
As does everything else if you get too addicted to it. Drugs, gambling etc, you have no arguement.

Ouch......PWNED

IPlayWoW
01-21-2008, 06:41 PM
I killed a lock in under five seconds.

Reroll pally. Spec ret. Get warrior gear. You will kill a lock in 3 seconds.

Ouch......PWNED

Heh.

The Coder
01-21-2008, 06:54 PM
But you can PUG kara ! Getting to curator is pretty good for one:cool:
Is our relationship special?:huh:

Not as special as AB and I's.
Sigh. There on one of the final stages of the Kara attunement ( My guild )

WSG is way lame in the lower brackets unless you have super twinks on your side. at 70 most people have a fair shot to go rape the FC unless they are heavily guarded.

Well 10-19 is all twinks. And what I mostly hate is that you have very very long matches that just get so boring.


Where's a good place to get feral druid/rogue gear in your late 40s? I've got the AB stuff, and I'm working on the WSG stuff. I keep getting in with a 9 person premade. for the 40-49. So it's going pretty fast. When they left, I got into 4 druid groups, two resto, two feral... Hehe. Charging in in bear form...

I've finally decided I'm tired of waiting. I want level 70.

oijuuygrch
01-22-2008, 02:26 AM
I'll stick with Final Fantasy XI then.
+1

AlabamaBoy
01-22-2008, 04:31 AM
^ that guy - gtfo

No Kyir, I just sat back and bolted them.

Wrath of Air, Totem of Wrath, Tremor, Mana was the combo then.

Elentari
01-22-2008, 09:12 AM
Reroll pally. Spec ret. Get warrior gear. You will kill a lock in 3 seconds.

Lol ret.

Anyway, I just had a dream about wow. I got out of bed and got on so I could tell Bama about it, but wow is down and he isn't online. So... you guys get to hear about.

My dream started out with me waking up and discovering that overnight, my body had somehow sensed that something was "coming" and changed from a paladin to around a level 6 warlock (though it wasn't specifically a warlock, in my dream it was just someone with shadow magic. I didn't have lock spells). At around the same time that I discovered this, I realized that some sort of barrier had broken and the alliance were storming all the horde cities.

So here I was in my apartment with bama and a couple other random people. We decide that I have to use one of my spells to guard the door (not very lock-like). Apparently in order to do this spell you have to tie one of the person's belongings or some of their hair around the doorknob (which somehow was about 8 feet off the ground, so I had to stand on the couch to reach it). I couldn't use something of my own because I was only level 6, so bama offered to let me use something of his instead. In the end I used two of his socks tied together. Somewhere in the middle of this process someone suggested that as long as I wasn't a paladin it should be my hair on the doorknob. He told me to check and make sure that I wasn't one by licking my hair (according to my dream-self, paladins have distinctly good tasting hair, and this is how you tell them apart from everyone else).

I told this guy that even though I'm not a paladin anymore it shouldn't be my stuff on the doorknob because part of the spell makes it so that when someone breaks through, the first person they come after is the one whose personal belonging was used. I then asked bama if he minded being their first target and he said no :). And this was when someone called and woke me up -.-.

The strangest thing about my dream was that we were all scared of the alliance. Like it was some strangle parallel universe where the alliance was actually good.

Spirit_Monger
01-22-2008, 01:46 PM
Well 10-19 is all twinks. And what I mostly hate is that you have very very long matches that just get so boring.

Not always on my realm. We still get at least one low level like 10, 12, etc.
We get 18's to, but they aren't as bad other than having a little lower health than the others, and dealing a little less damage.
We do get long mathes though. I've had some last an hour and a half unfortunately.
And even if one team gets 2 caps quickly, they end up farming us and bring out all of their battle standards.
Alliance is a lot more twinked than Horde at this level.

I'll probably do BG's at 19, 29, 39, 49, etc. until I actually get to 70. Then I'll probably redo a hunter as an orc, play a troll shaman, and use a tauren warrior, as well as a tauren for a druid if I do that again.
But that's a pretty long time away ...

The Coder
01-22-2008, 02:25 PM
Know what's sad? My level 49 druid has more epiks than the entire guild combined.

1.

FreddyAdu23
01-22-2008, 03:18 PM
i like pvp at 49 on my priest (alliance)

because i actually win bg's at all other lvls i lose, expect 19 but 19 is borring, and they do last forever.

Wisher
01-22-2008, 03:35 PM
Know what's sad? My level 49 druid has more epiks than the entire guild combined.

1.

Lmao. Ever thought of changing guilds?


I got my first 1k crit on my boomkin today =0.

The Coder
01-22-2008, 05:51 PM
Pfft I got that like three months ago :p

They only recently hit 70, most of them are poor. So it's gonna be a while till they're well geared. Since they can't run heroics, and refuse to respec. (You shoulda seen the argument I had with the mage over mana efficiency. Truly hilarious. ) They've got a good number of rares though. Only one or two greens each. They've also started to PvP, so they'll be getting that gear too. The priest doesn't realize that you can trade Shadowcloth and Spellcloth for Primal Mooncloth, so he's QQing about the cooldown.

So I'm in the 40-49 at 50 and I got owned by some twink shaman. Every piece of his gear except for the trinket slot was +Spell Damage. 400 some. I pretty much killed myself on his Lightning Shield. Getting hit for 350 just from his lightning shield. He did blow all his cooldowns for that insta kill, but still... Freaking owned...

Jesus. Auctioneer bugged for me. Have to disable.. Sigh

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shu%27halo&n=Suros

He definatly buys gold. I saw him selling a 10s item for 10000g. And he's got all the wrong enchants.

IPlayWoW
01-22-2008, 08:05 PM
Lol ret.

More ignorance.

The Coder
01-22-2008, 08:25 PM
My friend's ret. His team's fair, mostly due to incompetent people going for the pally with the 2h rather than the one with the shield.

I'm farming Argent Dawn rep. Don't ask why. I don't know.

Man. 10k exp to my first AV... Can't wait.

We got owned. Good news is, I wasn't in the bottom 23 damage dealers.

Still trying to work it all out. I might just AoE them down. HURRICANE!

Second match: Killed Drek when they had 2 reinforcements left.

AlabamaBoy
01-23-2008, 01:50 AM
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3739/stormwindpicaa8.png

Ignition
01-23-2008, 09:26 AM
Reroll pally. Spec ret. Get warrior gear. You will kill a lock in 3 seconds.
'tis me

Anyway, I just had a dream about wow. I got out of bed and got on so I could tell Bama about it, but wow is down and he isn't online. So... you guys get to hear about.

My dream started out with me waking up and discovering that overnight, my body had somehow sensed that something was "coming" and changed from a paladin to around a level 6 warlock (though it wasn't specifically a warlock, in my dream it was just someone with shadow magic. I didn't have lock spells). At around the same time that I discovered this, I realized that some sort of barrier had broken and the alliance were storming all the horde cities.

So here I was in my apartment with bama and a couple other random people. We decide that I have to use one of my spells to guard the door (not very lock-like). Apparently in order to do this spell you have to tie one of the person's belongings or some of their hair around the doorknob (which somehow was about 8 feet off the ground, so I had to stand on the couch to reach it). I couldn't use something of my own because I was only level 6, so bama offered to let me use something of his instead. In the end I used two of his socks tied together. Somewhere in the middle of this process someone suggested that as long as I wasn't a paladin it should be my hair on the doorknob. He told me to check and make sure that I wasn't one by licking my hair (according to my dream-self, paladins have distinctly good tasting hair, and this is how you tell them apart from everyone else).

I told this guy that even though I'm not a paladin anymore it shouldn't be my stuff on the doorknob because part of the spell makes it so that when someone breaks through, the first person they come after is the one whose personal belonging was used. I then asked bama if he minded being their first target and he said no :). And this was when someone called and woke me up -.-.

The strangest thing about my dream was that we were all scared of the alliance. Like it was some strangle parallel universe where the alliance was actually good.

gawd dont you hate tuesdays? I have tuesdays off and I hardly EVER get to play WoW... QQ

BEST story ever!
Dude, my hair tastes good!?
Also.. I think you and Dan should totally transfer to my server /cry

Spirit_Monger
01-23-2008, 01:06 PM
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3739/stormwindpicaa8.png

Do you not play with any addons at all?

None are really needed, but I don't know if I could go without having Titan Panel or something like it.

Ignition
01-23-2008, 02:08 PM
Titan Panel? link me man!

I'm running the bare basics of cords and that's it /eep

AlabamaBoy
01-23-2008, 02:31 PM
I run a KoS list most of the time.

But that's it.

The Coder
01-23-2008, 02:42 PM
The one thing that confuses me about alliance AV.

WE'RE GOOD???????

Spirit_Monger
01-23-2008, 04:11 PM
Titan Panel? link me man!

I'm running the bare basics of cords and that's it /eep

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/618/

That site has a ton of addons to choose from. There are more like Titan which provide the same information, so if you like having that info easily accessable compared to normal, but don't like Titan, you can find another.
I like it because it provides Cords, bag spaces, durability of items, and a few other thing.

Wisher
01-23-2008, 04:38 PM
Do you not play with any addons at all?

None are really needed, but I don't know if I could go without having Titan Panel or something like it.
I play addonless =(...they seem to not work for me on a mac.
The one thing that confuses me about alliance AV.

WE'RE GOOD???????
Alliance usually own because they have a huge defense, getting across the bridge can be a real pain at times.


And here finally ismy armory link..may not be the same since it says I'm in 7 guilds at once when I searched my name.

here goes:http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stonemaul&n=Ozwalds

I also have s1 gloves >.>

The Coder
01-23-2008, 04:57 PM
Oh my god this is so frustrating. We don't really have a tank in AV so it's going between people, and every time he targets the mage the mage runs out the goddamn door. Even though Galv is at 10%, 15%, or 17%.

He did it 4 times total.


Yea, I will admit. We cover the bridge area very very well. In all my 9 matches, I've never seen van die.

IPlayWoW
01-24-2008, 01:54 AM
I also have s1 gloves >.>

T4 > S1.

Your AP is really low considering you're mainly epic too, might wanna respec to 41 20 0 raid BM, nicer damage ;)

Wisher
01-24-2008, 06:53 AM
My ap sucks, and I'm probably gonna go back to 41/20/0 soon for the bonus crit damage. >.> Just trying out a new spec for now.

Ignition
01-24-2008, 08:14 AM
hey seem to not work for me on a mac.
What kind do you play on? I never have any problems with mine... other then it likes to heat up a lot.

Wisher
01-24-2008, 04:13 PM
I dunno what it's called. It's got a movable screen...like in those old commecials it would imitate people's actions.

The Coder
01-24-2008, 04:28 PM
Wow. I never realized how badly shaman were screwed over in PvP. Considering the key ele spells are easily dispelled. So is earth shield, and NS. End ench can easily be kited...

Wisher
01-24-2008, 04:30 PM
It's enhance not ench :). The auto crit of ele can be dispelled, as well as flame shock, but nothing else. ( I think totems are immune to AOE right?) Resto is fun though, you can stay alive for hella long.

The Coder
01-24-2008, 04:46 PM
Eye of the Storm is dispellable with Arcane Shot. Meaning against hunters with a fair autoattack rate, you're boned.

Wisher
01-24-2008, 05:01 PM
rank 6 and above dispells I believe. It's also a 6 second cooldown, so use it quickly!

The Coder
01-24-2008, 07:07 PM
Rank 7. Eye of the Storm gives you 100% chance to avoid spellcast when you're crit for 6s. Unless they've got a massively massive crit rate, it won't be up all the time, and oft will be brought down.

But yea, my shaman respecced ele out of boredom. And after being owned repeatedly by them. And by seeing how much they do in AV. And at my friend's advice. And because what's his name respecced enh so I'd do the honour back to him. Suprisingly, I'm oom as much now as I was before. I just kill slightly slower. (Except every few minutes when I blow the cooldown) ( Or in PvP )

IPlayWoW
01-25-2008, 12:57 AM
It's enhance not ench :).

Aye, and the majority of people call them ench shammys for short. Enha would just sound wrong. It's for the lazy people, like myself.

AlabamaBoy
01-25-2008, 01:34 AM
Don't whine about an entire clas because you don't know how to PvP with it.

Ignition
01-25-2008, 02:10 PM
I'm not really too sure I'm looking forward to PvPing or not...

When I ding 70 I think my biggest problem will be my guild figuring out if I'm staying ret for DPS or if I got'a roll holly for heals -_-
Regardless of the decision I'm leaning towards PvE gear and not so much specked for PvP.

IPlayWoW
01-25-2008, 04:42 PM
Stay retri. But with the patch, getting +spell damage gear is pointless. Ninja warrior gear from now on if you do stay ret :p

Wisher
01-25-2008, 05:07 PM
Ret pallies are fun. And they do some damn good damage. I dont really like holy pallies since they aren't very good at group healing, only at direct heals.

FreddyAdu23
01-25-2008, 07:19 PM
Ret pallies are cool. (favorite spec of pallies)

Holy pallies are good healers during instances (5 man), but lack heals like prayer of heal (priest spell), but they do have a good bit of intellect which what most people like.

Prot pallies are alright but i really dont think they are that great because a warrior is ideal tank, but these are great for soloing cause ur a tank that can heal.

Spirit_Monger
01-25-2008, 07:42 PM
I hate the WoW Armory. Doesn't update enough, and it still lists me as being in the guild I'm not in. Signed a charter for some guy and it wont list me as not being there anymore.
In search I get listed as being in 3 different ones, but when you click on my name is lists the noob guild.

IPlayWoW
01-25-2008, 07:49 PM
Holy pallies are good healers during instances (5 man), but lack heals like prayer of heal (priest spell), but they do have a good bit of intellect which what most people like.

The fact that they have no AoE heals or HoTs doesn't matter. Holy pallys are designed to be specific target healers. Such as MT/OT in raid etc. They aren't built for spot healing what so ever. Our setups for 25s are shammy/priest/druid on the raid, spot healing, with 2 pallys for MT and one for OT and it works like a charm. Also, rumor has it in the next major patch, paladins are getting some sort of HoT. In my opinion that would make them damn near invisible in PvP, good news for my healadin :happy:

Wisher
01-26-2008, 09:12 AM
Any idea of when next patch is coming out?

IPlayWoW
01-26-2008, 12:59 PM
No specific release date yet. Nor are there any official patch notes. At the moment, it's all rumors.

Wisher
01-26-2008, 01:34 PM
So...Which hunter deals most damage. BM, MM or surviv? I am thinking BM because of the 20% speed increase, and pet owns, but MM gives you some more AP. Survival I hear you need around 600 base agility for it to work, so that's out of the picture till i get good gear.

IPlayWoW
01-26-2008, 02:10 PM
41 20 0 BM raid spec til you can break 600 base agil, then go survival. I can easily break 800 agil now if I wanted to, but I love the physical damage from BM way too much. Any speed increase sucks as BM, because simply it relys on base physical damage. If you're BM you should be looking at 25% crit unbuffed, at least, and around 300+ ranged dps.

Base kara requirements for BM hunter is:

20% crit
1.5k AP
6k mana

All unbuffed.

Wisher
01-26-2008, 04:24 PM
23.16 crit 6898 mana only 1204 AP unbuffed :/. I rely on my raptor for owning face. :)

TheSilverRider
01-26-2008, 04:31 PM
Can we have some mage discussion? I am a new mage and want to know if anyone has any tips or anything. I am a lvl 48 fire mage right now. I am in a raiding guild and will be shooting for tier gear after 70. Please let me know!

Wisher
01-26-2008, 05:09 PM
IMO frost is best leveling spec..and best overall spec. but end game 0/44/17 is now very good because of icy something (hastens spellcasting) which is in frost tree.

So >.> yeh

Kyir
01-26-2008, 05:21 PM
Can we have some mage discussion? I am a new mage and want to know if anyone has any tips or anything. I am a lvl 48 fire mage right now. I am in a raiding guild and will be shooting for tier gear after 70. Please let me know!

No one likes mages, you all QQ wayyyy too much.

IPlayWoW
01-26-2008, 05:53 PM
IMO frost is best leveling spec..and best overall spec. but end game 0/44/17 is now very good because of icy something (hastens spellcasting) which is in frost tree.

So >.> yeh

Icy veins.
Most people are still arcane/fire mages in end game anyway. Mainly for the pure dps, cos fire hits like a truck still. It's only a 20% increase anyway, not THAT useful. It's mainly best for pvp and lower end game raids.

FreddyAdu23
01-26-2008, 07:37 PM
mages r easy to kill.... >.<

The Coder
01-26-2008, 09:05 PM
Mages are easy to kill because most don't pick up any stamina gear. Leaving them as easy easy targets.

Holy Nova For the Win!

TheSilverRider
01-26-2008, 11:54 PM
Bad mages are easy to kill.

Wisher
01-27-2008, 01:17 AM
Resto druids are awesome. Amazingly hard to kill.

TheSilverRider
01-27-2008, 01:22 AM
The hardest chars to kill in the game are palys. I HATE palis. They SUCK! It is just so freakin hard to kill them with their bubbles and heals. It just sucks.

Wisher
01-27-2008, 01:24 AM
Meh, they usually can't kill you..holy pallies at least. They just spam heal and they take half damage from a talent..or that's some other class/spec :o

AlabamaBoy
01-27-2008, 05:23 AM
Camped a druid with my handy dandy sentry totem today.

FreddyAdu23
01-27-2008, 08:10 AM
i do hate killing pallies, they are priest killers....

But everyone once in a while i kill one higher then me, takes forever tho...

The Coder
01-27-2008, 12:27 PM
Resto druids are awesome. Amazingly hard to kill.

Hells yea!

i do hate killing pallies, they are priest killers....

But everyone once in a while i kill one higher then me, takes forever tho...

Never lost to a pally on my druid. Never. Even when they blow all their cooldowns. Regardless of spec. Hardest ones were ret, easiest prot.

Spirit_Monger
01-27-2008, 01:32 PM
Pallies aren't exactly HARD to kill. Most that I have faced don't deal a lot of damage that quick anyway.
They just last a long time, which makes them seem hard.
Their little bubble thing has to be one of the most annoying things I've come across though.

IPlayWoW
01-27-2008, 06:38 PM
Pally discussion eh? Now this is where I can actually talk seeing as I play pally most of the time.

Earlier on today, level 63 belf holy pally vs level 70 dwarf ms warrior (full S1/blue gear), on the edge of goldshire. Now people say holy pallys cant do decent damage, but they can, if you do it right. I take this guy down to 17% with only 1 heal in between. Then he bravely runs into GS inn. So I simply bubble and chase him, holy shock crit hammer of wrath crit hes down. During this time I have 3 level 65 guards who have spawned hitting me and a 62 BM hunter. Kill the hunter too. Then just outheal the guards and run away.

Moral of the story is, never underestimate a pally, no matter of level or gear, they will bite you on the ass.

Faze - DarkmoonFaire EU, armory keeps buggering up for me in case anyone wanted to see it.

But either way, pallys are the best pvp class in game if you know how to play them.

FreddyAdu23
01-27-2008, 07:06 PM
My friend dinged lvl 70 (his first about an hour or so ago) we partied in outland he had his flying mount

Wisher
01-27-2008, 07:09 PM
Grats to him. I dinged 46 on my druid in st... our ret pally tank outdamaged everyone, but I at least out healed everyone /flex.

The Coder
01-27-2008, 10:38 PM
Heh. It was kinda sad, I got outhealed by the shadow priest in RFD today. Mostly because I was trying to conserve mana, so she kept them up at a point that I didn't have to Prayer of Healing them.

Wisher
01-27-2008, 10:40 PM
Sad boy. :(

NeverKnowsBest.
01-28-2008, 08:05 PM
Life without WoW sucks... it's brought me back to this dreadful forum ): atleast I can talk WoW with my people..

IPlayWoW
01-28-2008, 09:34 PM
I sometimes wonder what my life would be like without WoW. Keep trying to quit but can't :dry:

Spirit_Monger
01-28-2008, 09:38 PM
I don't try to quit.

I just ask myself why I even play it. And how pissed I will be at myself when i have a few level 70's and there is nothing left to do. At that point I guess I'd hate the game and be mad I wasted so much time and money on it.

NeverKnowsBest.
01-28-2008, 09:42 PM
Ugh i didnt quit.. Im just cut off my card expired man! Im FIENDING x.x So im stuck on here... and talking on msn rofl. I know what you mean though. Im happy leveling my priest alt and owning on my Rogue for now.

Wisher
01-28-2008, 09:43 PM
It'd be so hard to quit. i wouldn't have anything to do but tao and tv.

NeverKnowsBest.
01-28-2008, 09:47 PM
I was thinking it would be sweet.. if we could make a twink 19 guild called Tao or something like that. I would love to do this on my server. I would even provide runs thru Wc, but it's impossible Doomhammer is a full server ):

Wisher
01-28-2008, 09:47 PM
Link your chars armory link.

Spirit_Monger
01-28-2008, 09:53 PM
Twink 19 would be too boring. I played the 19 bracket for a few days and I got way too bored.
Would rather play in a 39 bracket or something.

NeverKnowsBest.
01-28-2008, 09:54 PM
Main
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Devinedeath
Alt
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Cutyourself
Twink
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Yourtragedy

NeverKnowsBest.
01-28-2008, 09:55 PM
Twink 19 would be too boring. I played the 19 bracket for a few days and I got way too bored.
Would rather play in a 39 bracket or something.

Only problem with that is im afraid we all wouldnt have enough time/gold to twink 39 in a server we werent from... double post ftw

Wisher
01-28-2008, 09:56 PM
Nice.

NeverKnowsBest.
01-28-2008, 09:59 PM
Twinking that 19 hunter took me like 3 days... S: its easy aslong as you got the gold... I still need 12 dodge cape though and 25 agility to staff... fishing hat would be nice too lol

Spirit_Monger
01-28-2008, 10:02 PM
You all could come to my server and do it. :p

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kel%27Thuzad&n=Mordechi

That's my armory.

I'm not in that guild though. It never updates it.
Search Burial Detail if you're interested in the guild part.

I need to stop spending so much money on tailoring though.
I may be able to benefit off selling bags though, so we'll see.

NeverKnowsBest.
01-28-2008, 10:08 PM
I would when I can... but im not going to bother unless we have enough people for atleast a premade.

NeverKnowsBest.
01-28-2008, 10:33 PM
Oh god... Chuck Norris is on Fox news right now... Im sure Trade channel is having a blast rite now T.T

The Coder
01-28-2008, 10:53 PM
Fine. Cause everyone else is doing it.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shu%27halo&n=Aragdar

Anyway your twink doesn't have enough stam. Also,
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=5961
Would have been a much better choice in pants. And Defias Chest a better chest.
Doesn't a mutilate build work best with two really slow weps too?


I'm debating twinking my priest. He's got all the good SM and RFK gear. Not sure though.
My priest-
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shu%27halo&n=Caroesit

Wisher
01-28-2008, 10:58 PM
Here's my alt druid. He is superbly fun, and his name just owns.

Edit: Coder you shouldn't twink unless your main is high leveled or unless you have a huge amount of gold.

NeverKnowsBest.
01-28-2008, 11:02 PM
Nah my twink has 1360 health.. Armorys just fudged, if you look at his stamina it says 1360 though.
The only reason I used those shitty pants was because I was geting the armor kit fo free and I didnt see dark leather pants in ah so i got screwed there.. ohwell i still didnt have to pay.
Speed doesnt really affect mutilate it's damage of the actual mutilate. Faster weapons are always prefered for rogues. Those are season one welfare daggers!!! wewt

Wisher
01-28-2008, 11:07 PM
I will post the awesome twink. NOt fully decked yet..still need fishing hat and some other things but, she owns.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stonemaul&n=Fluffyninja

Plust with numnumnum and nomnomnom and others from B Minus Team, my guild makes kick ass premades.

NeverKnowsBest.
01-28-2008, 11:09 PM
<3 that warlock

Spirit_Monger
01-28-2008, 11:26 PM
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Icecrown&n=K%C3%B3q

Is my favorite 19 twink warlock that I have come across.

Rumor has it that http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackwing+Lair&n=Warrz reached 5000 health at some point, with buffs. Whether or not that is true or possible though, I don't know.

NeverKnowsBest.
01-28-2008, 11:32 PM
Pretty sexy... mines usualy 1 or 2 in dps.. and I usualy get one cap if I try /flex

IPlayWoW
01-29-2008, 02:07 AM
My new main: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Darkmoon+Faire&n=Faze

Woodland
01-29-2008, 11:40 AM
My Paladin as he stands - http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Daggerspine&n=Hwoarang

But at this moment, I'm leveling my 37 Feral drood with my Frost Mage friend.

Wisher
01-29-2008, 04:01 PM
Berserker bracers :cool:

The Coder
01-29-2008, 06:33 PM
Here's my alt druid. He is superbly fun, and his name just owns.

Edit: Coder you shouldn't twink unless your main is high leveled or unless you have a huge amount of gold.

Uh... You know how much cash my priest has on it right now? 460g.

Rumor has it that http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...g+Lair&n=Warrz reached 5000 health at some point, with buffs. Whether or not that is true or possible though, I don't know.

No, it is impossible. Challenging Shout is not conferred to lower level'd chars (I tried with a level 70 guildie), with priest buff that's 200 more, Rumsey rum adds 150, the potion adds 27. Blood Pact, even it's highest rank adds 1118 health, and he wouldn't be able to use it in combat. So that's 1569 more than listed, so roughly 4k out of combat. In combat it'd be about 1000 less. Still impressive, though warriors aren't really that strong in 10-19. As FCs they can just be snared, pallys are much better as FCs.

Spirit_Monger
01-29-2008, 06:45 PM
How do you get 460G on your priest, at level 37? Send it from other characters? Buy it?
I have like, 20G on my lock at 28, will be less once I buy my next level of spells and grimories.

The Coder
01-29-2008, 08:45 PM
How do you get 460G on your priest, at level 37? Send it from other characters? Buy it?
I have like, 20G on my lock at 28, will be less once I buy my next level of spells and grimories.

Nope. Buy greens on AH leveled 41-45 for 1g each. Disenchant them. Sell.

Frustrates the hell out of me, I"m in trouble on my horde guild because of a fight I wasn't involved in because I fought with a guild officer the day before over Shaman Tanking ability. The officer said a shaman can off tank, they've got all these talents to improve their survivability. But no shaman I've met takes them, yea they can step in if your tank dies for a moment, but you don't bring a shaman along for off tanking, they aren't likely to blow 15 talents in that tree in things that will only benefit the raid if tank death occurs and they manage to still keep going.

FreddyAdu23
01-30-2008, 05:03 PM
i dinged 49 on my priest

should i pvp for a while? or lvl to 50 and get amazing sunken temple stuff?

Wisher
01-30-2008, 05:19 PM
id say level but pvp is always fun

TheSilverRider
01-30-2008, 06:02 PM
Yea, pvp rewards dont get good or meaningfull until 70 unless you are trying to twink it.

Spirit_Monger
01-30-2008, 06:13 PM
I do PvP BGs at 29, 39, etc. all the time so I can upgrade those items while I have nothing better to use, and it increases the honor with each faction so I'm not doing it all at 70.

The Coder
01-30-2008, 06:35 PM
Yea, pvp rewards dont get good or meaningfull until 70 unless you are trying to twink it.

There is nothing more I hate as a healer than having to overheal my targets constantly because to heal them with my big heals would mean that they'de be dead.

I'd say ~1.5k by 30, 2.5k by 40, and from there it's fine to go how you want, but some people need stamina..> Badly.

And PvP rewards are good, cheap, gear. Very good actually, and they provide that stam that's needed.

Wisher
01-30-2008, 06:46 PM
They don't provide good PVE aspects usually. Like for my hunter they give great stats, but very little attack power.

Might take out little spell damage for a lock.

halolover5.
01-30-2008, 06:53 PM
i dinged 49 on my priest

should i pvp for a while? or lvl to 50 and get amazing sunken temple stuff?

Truly, I never really did ST and i got along fine ... for me 40-49 was a fun bracket, mostly because theres not too many twinks, but not too many noobs either. So its mostly up to you

The Coder
01-30-2008, 07:22 PM
Indeed. Though still some little 13 year olds who think themselves gods of strategy, there's less. Only a twink every few rounds you'll run into, and you've got most of your abilities, so that's cool too. Most classes stand a fair chance against hunters by then, though locks are still OP like hell. I be rockin the ele DPS, usually in top 3, rarely not in top 5.

Wisher
01-30-2008, 07:41 PM
Against hunters...BM hunters dominate 49 bracket, unless that was a joke?

The Coder
01-30-2008, 08:28 PM
No, I'm dead serious. Though I don't have a caster there. Aside from priests whose shield is dispell'd, mages have strong AoE by then, and warlocks can deathcoil the hunter, have strong DoTs

IPlayWoW
01-30-2008, 08:41 PM
Not lost to a hunter of any spec on my 49 retadin neither... They truly suck in that bracket... Well they suck end of but that's beside the point.

The Coder
01-30-2008, 08:44 PM
Heh this one true retardin concecrated the land under me, then tried to Repentance/Heal himself...

Didn't work out too well for him. Earth shock'd him. He died.

Wisher
01-30-2008, 09:33 PM
Well I will say one thing, iplayed in 39 bracket today. Enahncement shamans and any specced hunters are frustrating while on a mage :/

The Coder
01-30-2008, 09:41 PM
Well I will say one thing, iplayed in 39 bracket today. Enahncement shamans and any specced hunters are frustrating while on a mage :/

Heh mages are easy to destroy on shaman, unless they counterspell, and that's only a threat to ele/resto, no ench.
I hauled 4 people around the AB map 3 times on my shaman. I'm bored and resto now. Warlock, Pally, Druid, and Mage.

TheSilverRider
01-31-2008, 12:26 AM
Counterspell ftw! lol

FreddyAdu23
01-31-2008, 08:15 AM
BM hunters are good if you know how to play them (all lvls of pvp) my friend was always in the top 3 damage, when he pvped

Megabyte
01-31-2008, 11:00 AM
got my first Illidan drop yesterday :D

Zhar'doom is a VERY ugly staff

The Coder
01-31-2008, 04:53 PM
BM hunters are good if you know how to play them (all lvls of pvp) my friend was always in the top 3 damage, when he pvped

Yes, well he'd own as marks or survival too, in terms of DPS, hunters rock those tables in BGs. You clearly don't know how hunters do standard, I'm tired of hunters bragging about how much they own. Further proof that hunters deserve to suck at arena for what they've got in BGs.

halolover5.
01-31-2008, 05:18 PM
got my first Illidan drop yesterday :D

Zhar'doom is a VERY ugly staff

Yeah but its kickass =D One of my friends got it like last week, and hes in love with it. It was his second Illidan attempt

The Coder
01-31-2008, 07:32 PM
I take back what I said about 49s and twinks


Full alliance premade.

TheSilverRider
02-01-2008, 10:32 AM
Yes, well he'd own as marks or survival too, in terms of DPS, hunters rock those tables in BGs. You clearly don't know how hunters do standard, I'm tired of hunters bragging about how much they own. Further proof that hunters deserve to suck at arena for what they've got in BGs.

I despise hunters. EASY MODE. I must admit, they are very good at RUNNING AWAY. Lol. As a mage i have never really had a problem with hunters, i sheep the pet and then the hunter pisses his pants because he lost his precious pet for 30 seconds. Also, as a fire mage, i can take down a petless hunter very quickly. I just hate hunters in general.:rolleyes:

halolover5.
02-01-2008, 10:34 AM
I think locks are easy mode atm... but that just be because im a mage. ;)

TheSilverRider
02-01-2008, 11:52 AM
Mage ftw :)

Wisher
02-01-2008, 11:54 AM
Mages are usually really easy to kill, unless they are POM

Woodland
02-01-2008, 03:14 PM
Mage ftw :)
Pfft..

Boomkin ftw.

FreddyAdu23
02-01-2008, 03:15 PM
Pfft..

Boomkin ftw.
Pfft..

Shadowform ftw.

The Coder
02-01-2008, 03:38 PM
Well, I've had a shadow priest and a balance druid..

I can't really decide..

Wisher
02-01-2008, 05:01 PM
Boomkin.

FreddyAdu23
02-01-2008, 06:20 PM
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shandris&n=Soloartist

i know the stuff isnt that great, but im not getting it good stuff till i get it to 70

Kyir
02-01-2008, 06:40 PM
Mages are usually really easy to kill, unless they are POM

...

...

You mean Ice... RIGHT?

Spirit_Monger
02-01-2008, 06:42 PM
Do BG wait times increase depending on where you join the queue from, or is it just wait time in general, no matter where?
29 waits are a lot longer, but I'm also queuing from a different place, so I don't know.

Wisher
02-01-2008, 07:23 PM
...

...

You mean Ice... RIGHT?

Yes i forgot to edit that in there. at 70 POM mages are hard cause they pom and pyro, which usually crits. Ice is usually easy for me because of bestial wrath, but it's a bitch in general.

IPlayWoW
02-01-2008, 07:34 PM
BM hunters are just funny, when they throw off bestial wrath just ice block. That's my tactic, usually works, at least.

OLuigiO
02-01-2008, 08:48 PM
I dislike Wow. I tried Wow, and Maplestory, and I like maplestory better. In Wow i was a night elf, got to level 20, and quit. It was terrible.

GO KRADIA!!!

«Lévél 86»

The Coder
02-01-2008, 09:39 PM
Man. I love horde PvP in comparison to alliance PvP.


Less noobs saying 'BUT I HAV 2 CAPTUUR LM OR I WONT GET A QWEST DUN AND DEN I WONT L.V' "OMG IF WE JUST LISTENED 2 MY STRATEGE WE WUD HAV 1 WE ALWAYS WIN IF WE LISTEN TO MY STRATEGY" "SEE MY STRATEGY WON US THE GAME" "OMG *name* IS AFK*"
sayings capitalized for dramatization.

They just QQ so much. And all try to go in alone. The mage was bragging because he out damaged me momentarily. Then you look, and see he had double the deaths, and half the killing blows, and honourable kills.

OluigO

Get the fuck out.

Wisher
02-01-2008, 09:58 PM
Are you from england coder? And yes horde rock at PVP, but actually having healers is a toss up. Today we had no healers in wsg and lost due to it, alliance always have 3-4 healers. I out damaged a super intense hunter though, so i felt prouud. got up to 512k damge.

Spirit_Monger
02-01-2008, 10:12 PM
What battle groups and level brackets are you guys in?

I'm in the Nightfall battle group, currently 29 bracket, and horde isn't great still.
Still a lot of retards.

Much more fun than 29 though. I actually stand more of a chance against twinks.

Not sure if I should use succubus for seduce, or imp for stamina buff though.

The Coder
02-01-2008, 10:56 PM
Are you from england coder? And yes horde rock at PVP, but actually having healers is a toss up. Today we had no healers in wsg and lost due to it, alliance always have 3-4 healers. I out damaged a super intense hunter though, so i felt prouud. got up to 512k damge.

Nope. Thing is, I own most of the healers within seconds, Mind Blast, SW: P Mind flay Silence Mind Blast mind flay if still not dead. I've got lots of spell crit and damage.

What battle groups and level brackets are you guys in?

I'm in the Nightfall battle group, currently 29 bracket, and horde isn't great still.
Still a lot of retards.

Much more fun than 29 though. I actually stand more of a chance against twinks.

Not sure if I should use succubus for seduce, or imp for stamina buff though.

I prefer VW, just sack and go.
Whirlwind - Just about every bracket. 20-29 ally and horde, 30-39 ally, 40-49 horde, 50-59/60 ally.

Spirit_Monger
02-01-2008, 11:14 PM
All have some useful ability.
Imps being a nice addition to health, VW being the shield, and succubus being seduction.
Hard to choose.

The Coder
02-02-2008, 12:27 AM
seduction is hard to get to use right.
Imp gives you a slight increase to health all the time, voidwalker gives you a short, powerful bonus to health and prevents casting damage. if you want CC go succubus, if you want survival VW.

Spirit_Monger
02-02-2008, 12:46 AM
May use VW in AB. Seduction didn't really help me much at all, and the blood pact didn't make a significant difference.

Might try them in WSG though because blood pact buffs more than just myself more often.

Megabyte
02-02-2008, 02:19 AM
I think locks are easy mode atm... but that just be because im a mage. ;)

Only afflic, destruc spec destroy mages (at least I do).

FreddyAdu23
02-02-2008, 09:00 AM
on my server

alliance is only good at lvl 70 pvp...

all the rest we lose...

Wisher
02-02-2008, 09:13 AM
I am in level 70 Cyclone. I hate my battlegroup, alliance are always stacked.

Megabyte
02-02-2008, 12:54 PM
So stack your side ;)


The reason one side does better is usually attributive to only one individual who took the effort to organize a bunch of others.

The Coder
02-02-2008, 03:44 PM
Thing is, my battlegroup has more twinks on ally than horde 10-19, but for the most part, beyond that it favours horde. Sadly, Alliance tries to organize more- but the thing I've noticed is, at an alliance GY, when people rez, they all go different directions. At a horde one, they all stick together to try to capture some place. It's kinda wierd, but it's all done unspoken too.

Megabyte
02-02-2008, 04:11 PM
Sadly, Alliance tries to organize more- but the thing I've noticed is, at an alliance GY, when people rez, they all go different directions.

Your statement is a paradox :p They're obviously not trying that hard or often if that's the case.

Note that when I say organize, I don't mean being the jackars who shouts stuff in raid and expects people to somehow aknowledge him leader and do as he says by magic.


I'm too lazy to organize large groups of pvp'ers myself. I usually work with 2-9 people I've worked with on occasion and know, and we just sort of work out as a concentrated group effort. Had some pretty solid results too.

The Coder
02-02-2008, 07:02 PM
Your statement is a paradox :p They're obviously not trying that hard or often if that's the case.

Note that when I say organize, I don't mean being the jackars who shouts stuff in raid and expects people to somehow aknowledge him leader and do as he says by magic.

Alliance has about 5 of those each round. I interpreted what you said as that. Indeed, alliance tries more at it but fails.


I'm too lazy to organize large groups of pvp'ers myself. I usually work with 2-9 people I've worked with on occasion and know, and we just sort of work out as a concentrated group effort. Had some pretty solid results too.

I've only done a premade once or twice, with an SM group while waiting for more members.

Spirit_Monger
02-02-2008, 07:33 PM
Thing is, my battlegroup has more twinks on ally than horde 10-19, but for the most part, beyond that it favours horde. Sadly, Alliance tries to organize more- but the thing I've noticed is, at an alliance GY, when people rez, they all go different directions. At a horde one, they all stick together to try to capture some place. It's kinda wierd, but it's all done unspoken too.

Alliance does that to us on my battlegroup.
Lots of the horde people are retarded.

Somehow it still amazes me how people have absolutely no common sense whatsoever.

IPlayWoW
02-02-2008, 09:18 PM
What battle groups and level brackets are you guys in?

I'm in the Nightfall battle group, currently 29 bracket, and horde isn't great still.
Still a lot of retards.

Much more fun than 29 though. I actually stand more of a chance against twinks.

Not sure if I should use succubus for seduce, or imp for stamina buff though.

Nightfall?! :eek:

Thats the same as me... Whats your chars name? Realm too ofc.

Ignition
02-02-2008, 09:27 PM
Mind if I poke the topic of UIs back up?

I've been having a lot of fun browsing the sites you all have recommended, and I believe I've made quite a wonderful interface!

Being the minimalist and some what perfectionist person I am, I piled through and tested a very large number of plugins. What I've assembled is a very easy to adjust to UI that's not far off the stock one, modifying only what is cumbersome or unfriendly in the standard one blizzard provides.
I'll get a screen shot some time.

Spirit_Monger
02-02-2008, 09:36 PM
Nightfall?! :eek:

Thats the same as me... Whats your chars name? Realm too ofc.

Kel'Thuzad realm.
Aren't EU and American realms different though? Or are they not?
I'm not sure totally sure since they have 2 sites, 1 American and 1 EU.

This (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kel%27Thuzad&n=Mordechi) is my Armory.

Tried the VW shield in AB. Worked more than the other pet abilities did, except for when I'm getting hit for 800 consistently by some rogue. =\

I still have to mess with my UI, but I've been too lazy to.

IPlayWoW
02-02-2008, 10:09 PM
Oh american nightfall... eh i thought you meant EU one =/

Heh, never mind then...

TheSilverRider
02-03-2008, 01:56 AM
Only afflic, destruc spec destroy mages (at least I do).

Argh, destruc locks RAPE mages. I hate it. :mad:

The Coder
02-03-2008, 12:03 PM
I luv shadowform <3<3<3<3<3

So much fun.

Spirit_Monger
02-03-2008, 10:32 PM
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5228/raid1wb2.jpg

I want that UI. Only available in 1600 x 1000 wide screen though, or whatever the exact resolution would be.

Might still try to replicate it on my 1280 x 1024 with the same add ons though. I just don't have a lot of experience/knowledge with messing around with them.

You can't tell me that is not kickass though.
I'd just need to add a few things for my own liking.

The Coder
02-04-2008, 03:43 PM
Man, I put in a new UI mod that screwed over my settings so bad I'm reinstalling
Fuckin hell man.

Volcom
02-04-2008, 04:12 PM
Man, I put in a new UI mod that screwed over my settings so bad I'm reinstalling
Fuckin hell man.

why ? just delete you WTF folder and all your addons, if it screwed it that bad.

The Coder
02-04-2008, 04:22 PM
Wee late fer that. I already keep the patches and majority of config files, so it really didn't take too long.

Spirit_Monger
02-04-2008, 05:15 PM
Yeah, I tried messing with the addons myself and it just screwed it all up, so I'm just going to go with a minimal amount of them.

I backed up both of those folders so I had no problem when I went to restore it exactly how it was.

The Coder
02-04-2008, 08:06 PM
I think I've got a nice combination, that allows for customization between all my chars:

Atlas
Atlasloot
Auctioneer
Bartender3
Damage Meter
eCastingBar
Omen
Titan Panel
X-Perl

Some of the features and mods that came with the ones I got I've disabled, but this allows for easy customization between all my chars. I unbound the base Shift things and bound Shift+1-6 to what's normally 7-12.

Kyir
02-04-2008, 08:11 PM
I have ~100.

It's cool.

The Coder
02-04-2008, 10:28 PM
Mostly Men Online Role Playing Girls.

Wisher
02-04-2008, 10:33 PM
Got to outlands on my lock, already 59 almost 60 :)

AlabamaBoy
02-05-2008, 04:18 PM
Kyle, I'm making a druid, and I'm going to do it on your server.

PM me your location. Pllleeeaaasse.

The Coder
02-05-2008, 05:31 PM
You probably don't know it now, but you've chosen the best raiding class for rogues. Berserking = Godly

I hate idiots in parties
We had a warrior and pally. Both didn't know how to AoE.
The pally was prot. But he left it, because 1 vs. 1s took too long.
Warrior was fair, except for... You know, not AoEing or multi sundering. For the event in ZF, I started kiting 9 around me in circles. It was a bitch. Thank god for earthbind and grounding.

The Coder
02-05-2008, 05:40 PM
I'm thinking of starting a char on a PvP server. Any advice?

Spirit_Monger
02-05-2008, 05:55 PM
You could play on my server if you want to.

Just watch out for higher level players in PvP zones, and in less popular zones just move your camera around every now and then.
STV is popular so you need to move it around and keep moving away from the higher level players, Stonelton isn't as popular so you'd just need to move your camera.

Wisher
02-05-2008, 05:59 PM
Make horde on stonemaul :!

Just dinged 60 on my lock =D.

Kyir
02-05-2008, 06:17 PM
Make horde on stonemaul :!

Just dinged 60 on my lock =D.

My Trolling alt's on Stonemaul, what're the chances?

IPlayWoW
02-05-2008, 07:30 PM
Make horde on stonemaul :!

Just dinged 60 on my lock =D.

Grats...
Have fun with the dreadsteed quest...

Spirit_Monger
02-05-2008, 07:52 PM
Yeah, grats.

Heard that quest was a pain.

I'd suggest just checking with your guild mates to see if any of them have the mats left over which would be a big help.
Or check here (http://wowmb.net/) for someone on your server who might. Just register and search for people on your server, and check the box that says "Have Mats to help with Dreadsteed quest".
They have a walkthrough on the quest to if you'd need help with that.

Wisher
02-05-2008, 08:33 PM
I'd rather buy an epic mount then waste my time doing that.

The Coder
02-05-2008, 10:03 PM
My Trolling alt's on Stonemaul, what're the chances?

Hardcore trolls troll on their main.

You could play on my server if you want to.

Just watch out for higher level players in PvP zones, and in less popular zones just move your camera around every now and then.
STV is popular so you need to move it around and keep moving away from the higher level players, Stonelton isn't as popular so you'd just need to move your camera.


I meant on class

Wisher
02-05-2008, 10:05 PM
My Trolling alt's on Stonemaul, what're the chances?
aha

The Coder
02-05-2008, 11:07 PM
My rogue hit 30...

DAMN!

Killin things without taking damage is the shit.

Spirit_Monger
02-06-2008, 11:48 AM
I'm trying to decide if switching servers would be worth it while they are offering free tansfers.
I don't like having the waiting time to get in, but it doesn't happen extremely often, and I also don't want to be on a low economy server since I'm thinking I wouldn't make money as fast. =\

The Coder
02-06-2008, 05:33 PM
I was thinking of creating a new char on the newly added server when it's opened to new signups. Thing is though, I don't want to do the same thing over again, alone. If anyone else whose one like 3:30-6:30 EST most days wants to do it with me, I'm up for it. I know priest/mage would probably be the fastest combo, but I odn't exactly want to do that.

Wisher
02-06-2008, 05:44 PM
I think hunter is the fastest leveler...if you were going for speed leveling.

FreddyAdu23
02-06-2008, 06:57 PM
dual shadow priests, or dual hunters (but they have to be able to heal so look at racials)

Wisher
02-06-2008, 08:10 PM
I made a 2v2 =O.
Surprisingly, we on the first game. IT's me and a druid that's specced 26/0/35
It's really weird, and he was in most greens, but we somehow won?

=O.

TheSilverRider
02-06-2008, 09:35 PM
I know this may spark quite a debate, but....let talk about a new subject.....Horde vs. Alliance.

Me personally am Horde all the way, how bout you guys?

Wisher
02-06-2008, 09:45 PM
If you're gonna bea druid. Alliance

Everything else HOrde


oh and twinks are good on AC too, but horde twinks=ownage.

The Coder
02-06-2008, 10:27 PM
My new favourite quote:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7008/droodqn4.png

IPlayWoW
02-07-2008, 02:52 AM
Everyone wishes they were a pally...

At some point.

Woodland
02-07-2008, 06:40 AM
If you're gonna bea druid. Alliance

Everything else HOrde


oh and twinks are good on AC too, but horde twinks=ownage.
So, in theory I'm an ass for having a Tauren drood?

Sensai
02-07-2008, 06:57 AM
I can't be bothered to read the WHOLE thread. But, here goes.

Lineage 2 > WoW

Also, Heya Levi. Sup?!

The Coder
02-07-2008, 11:51 AM
Everyone wishes they were a pally...

At some point.

Bears are cooler than bubbles.

*Addicted*
02-07-2008, 01:02 PM
Starcraft > WoW

The Coder
02-07-2008, 01:52 PM
Mk, if you aren't gonna discuss the game.

GTFO.

My shaman is now 48. I'm loving resto, because over the last hour I've healed 30k and spent 0 mana on it. Keep myself buffed with Lightning Shield, Mana Spring, and Flametongue, and hit flame shock every 12 seconds. Never go oom and never need to manually heal myself.

What I hate is that now, I'm closer to earth shield than ever, but now I'm at a great level for PvP.

FreddyAdu23
02-07-2008, 03:14 PM
Alliance Alliance

Kill those stupid cows!


hehe...

Spirit_Monger
02-07-2008, 04:00 PM
Horde all the way.

Alliance twinks aren't always bad, usually end up annoying me at some point since I'm not a twink, but Horde has some pretty good racials for PvP, better than most alliance in my opinion. Undead are awesome at PvP with WotF and Cannibalize.

IPlayWoW
02-07-2008, 06:30 PM
I can't be bothered to read the WHOLE thread. But, here goes.

Lineage 2 > WoW

Also, Heya Levi. Sup?!

Starcraft > WoW

Gtfo.

And, yes wood, a huge ass at that :rolleyes:

The Coder
02-07-2008, 08:00 PM
Horde all the way.

Alliance twinks aren't always bad, usually end up annoying me at some point since I'm not a twink, but Horde has some pretty good racials for PvP, better than most alliance in my opinion. Undead are awesome at PvP with WotF and Cannibalize.

Alliance Racials are a LOT more situational, and are more effective depending on class. For example, Cloak of Shadows + Stoneform = Out of every current debuff in game, allowing you to vanish. Perception is great if you know if they're coming. Escape Artist is awesome for warriors and rogues. Shadowmeld is good for warriors, rogues, and druids, to help you get the jump, and Evasion helps reduce the +defense you need to go crit/crush immune. Draenei usage is obvious.

Spirit_Monger
02-07-2008, 09:51 PM
I'm addicted to buying things off the AH.

Started with buying cloths to level tailoring and first aid quickly, and now it's moved on to purchasing a blue and some better greens for my lock, solely for BGs.
Just hoping the addiction doesn't continue.

The Coder
02-07-2008, 10:08 PM
It will spirit. You've already started.

For example, today, for my shaman, I spent 20g on an Admiral's Hat and the Tux set...

Wait, for me that's just a rare splurg, nvm..

Wisher
02-07-2008, 10:11 PM
So, in theory I'm an ass for having a Tauren drood?

No. It's a horde still. Tauren are better tanks from racials =O.

The Butcher dropped today.

Ignition
02-08-2008, 10:54 AM
Starcraft > WoW

I cant find the download, and even if I could I don't think the demo is for Mac

I'm addicted to buying things off the AH.
Started with buying cloths to level tailoring and first aid quickly, and now it's moved on to purchasing a blue and some better greens for my lock, solely for BGs.
Just hoping the addiction doesn't continue.
"binds when equipped" all suck, end of story.
:. all AH items suck.


Yeah, so me and some friends went on an adventure at 3:00am last night.
let's just say I "loled" for a solid hour or more. The best part was when we got the lowbie killed by their own grad with MC

Every one knows you can /2 trade chat when ever you're in a major city, did you know that includes ALL of them?
here we are in Darnassus offering 10 primal earth for like 1g to the first person who could come and get them.
or "WTB port to Shatt for 100g" etc etc.

Our buddy Issac (70 Nelf Hunter) fallowed us around the hole time, but the Alli pansy wouldn't toggle his PvP. He'd watch us rape all the lowbies, 'lol' at them. even when we where running around raping the AH/Bankers/even the lowbie quest givers

Eventually we got bored and Hearthed out.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/Kyl02/Screen%20Capture/Picture8.png
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/Kyl02/Screen%20Capture/Picture5-1.png

Ignition
02-08-2008, 03:14 PM
Dont care about the doube.


I've been looking for a unit frame plug in for I have no idea how long now. Some one on here linked a UI with something almost exactly like what I'm looking for. Cursed doesn't seem to have anything like what I'm wanting so I neeed to know where to get this damn thing. Maybe if some one thinks they could find it for me I'll flip back a few pages and see if I can find the link to the image of what I'm talking about

Spirit_Monger
02-08-2008, 05:24 PM
Yeah, it probably will.
I was fine when I was spending it on the mats and patterns and what not, but I'm disappointed in myself buying the armor now.
Have only about 8G left on the lock though so as long as I don't send money from my mule I'll be fine.

Nec: If you find the screenshot I'm sure we could help you more. The OP would have more of an idea especially or we might be able to let you know what is in there.

Popular unit frames now though seem to be Pitbull, but you could have been looking at a total UI compilation.

The Coder
02-08-2008, 08:26 PM
I Luv Earth Shield

Ignition
02-09-2008, 02:48 PM
Yeah, it probably will.
I was fine when I was spending it on the mats and patterns and what not, but I'm disappointed in myself buying the armor now.
Have only about 8G left on the lock though so as long as I don't send money from my mule I'll be fine.

Nec: If you find the screenshot I'm sure we could help you more. The OP would have more of an idea especially or we might be able to let you know what is in there.

Popular unit frames now though seem to be Pitbull, but you could have been looking at a total UI compilation.
I just went back a bunch of pages and couldn't find it... 0_O creepy because I sware I saw it.

I think Volcom posted it, it was a super cool UI (forget the name) with minimap bottom middle and frames on either side
The unit frames seemed animated but instead of having the information beside a square image, it was on a bar above the mana/hp bar.

PitBull, or apparently one called DUF. I couldn't find anything that seemed to be new but both of those look almost exactly like what I want. Please one of you WoW super zomg people find me something!!

Spirit_Monger
02-09-2008, 03:35 PM
http://wow.uiscreens.com/fullsize.php?ssid=89

That UI?

WoW realms went offline just before we were going to win AB. :dry:

booyaka619
02-09-2008, 03:37 PM
My main is a level 40 hunter -_-

Wisher
02-09-2008, 03:50 PM
any1 else having trouble logging in right now or is it just me?

Spirit_Monger
02-09-2008, 03:57 PM
I am still. WoW shut down all the realms or something.

Got disconnected right when we were about to win AB. Could log back in but couldn't connect to my realm, and it would say offline on and off.
Other realms I could get on to but now I can't log in at all.

Ignition
02-09-2008, 05:07 PM
http://wow.uiscreens.com/fullsize.php?ssid=89

That UI?

WoW realms went offline just before we were going to win AB. :dry:

No. I just want unit frames like this: http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8829/decuije8.jpg
Or preforably like this:
http://hosted.cnsdev.dk/wUF.jpg

but it's impossible to find them. Pitbull blows and I don't know of any others that can do it.

Volcom
02-09-2008, 05:26 PM
No. I just want unit frames like this: http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8829/decuije8.jpg
Or preforably like this:
http://hosted.cnsdev.dk/wUF.jpg

but it's impossible to find them. Pitbull blows and I don't know of any others that can do it.

their Both Pitbull :)
you just need to learn how to customize them better :)

Spirit_Monger
02-09-2008, 06:28 PM
Yeah, never saw the one in the first screenshot, but the second looks like a customization of Pitbull to.

Ignition
02-09-2008, 07:36 PM
yes, they both are. I got them from a thread showing just what pitbull can do.
I guess I just suck at pitbull or something? I went through every menu and sub menu it had and didn't see anything that'd allow that kind of customization. maybe I'll have to try it again.

In the mean time is there a 'big name' for some kind of plug in that'll show me how long buffs have left? either with a faded clocking kinda deal (like the stock action bar kinda thing) or even with numbers. that I DEFIANTLY need, but not the stupid pally team buff/ show you're hole fucking raid and what buffs are missing deal. just me and my buffs

p.s. if some one rocks at pitbull please PM me I NEEEED to learn it.

Spirit_Monger
02-09-2008, 07:46 PM
Buff Bars (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/3320/) like this?

Check this (http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t10707-pitbull_new_unitframe_addon/) for Pitbull, maybe. I haven't read it but it might have some info you could use in it.
Or you could search around and they might have some info.

Also, in their UI section of the forum, they have a thread for helping with a UI.
If we can't help you on certain parts of it, you could register there and possibly ask for some help.

I'd help you out more with Pitbull if I could, but I'm not good at actually customizing my UI or using Pitbull either. Still need to learn.

If I ever get into using the keybindings instead of clicking, this UI looks pretty neat to, IMO.
http://www.zutroy.be/images/FT.jpg

Ignition
02-09-2008, 11:58 PM
yeah, this is going to sound pretty lame but I found exactly what I was looking for with that buff count down thing. it's in the default interface options. I R t3h sux

yeah, I like the idea of the huge heath bar along the top

I'm pretty much going to need a pitbull wiz to show me what I want or make it for me and export it.

thanks S_M

The Coder
02-10-2008, 01:06 AM
Wow, spirit, you're still using the clicks? DAMN.

I tried pitbull, I like it, still trying to get everything working right.

MicSpor
02-10-2008, 09:20 AM
Should I buy Burning Crusade or the regular WoW?

Wisher
02-10-2008, 10:00 AM
Burning Crusade. but im not sure you might need the regular one to install BC (burning crusade).

Volcom
02-10-2008, 11:44 AM
I Use PitBull, But im a bit of a minimalist, so mine look like this. I dont like Pictures and mess :P
http://i17.tinypic.com/8btfw2f.jpg (more or less)

Spirit_Monger
02-10-2008, 11:50 AM
Wow, spirit, you're still using the clicks? DAMN.

I tried pitbull, I like it, still trying to get everything working right.

Yeah, unfortunately.
Just never got used to the WASD stuff.
Eventually I will though, and at that time I'll probably start using Pitbull and more addons like that so the screen has more free space.
Probably after I get around 90 of the WSG and AB marks each, so I'd be finished with PvP until 39.

Should I buy Burning Crusade or the regular WoW?

Regular WoW for sure, because you need that in order for Burning Crusade to work. If you want TBC, you'll need to buy both, in other words. :p

I Use PitBull, But im a bit of a minimalist, so mine look like this. I dont like Pictures and mess :P
http://i17.tinypic.com/8btfw2f.jpg (more or less)

Looks pretty cool.

Volcom
02-10-2008, 12:08 PM
Yeah, unfortunately.
Just never got used to the WASD stuff.
Eventually I will though, and at that time I'll probably start using Pitbull and more addons like that so the screen has more free space.


i use to click, and use the Arrow Keys, but when i hit 60 and started to PVP coz i wasnt in a raiding guild. i realized that arrow Keys just dosnt cut it.

So i forced my self to swap, i changed my desk around, so i was uncomfortable for me to use the arrow keys, changed my chair palcement,... Etc Etc
but i Aslo got a new UI, that hide all my action bars, Forcing me to key bind..

Its sooo Much better... and works 100times more :)

Megabyte
02-10-2008, 01:53 PM
Woot, finished getting my t6 for my little Gnome, now officially calling him "decked out."


Pictures at 11 (or whenever I log back on).

AlabamaBoy
02-10-2008, 02:32 PM
I'm playing resto on my 70 shaman.

HOWEVER. I'm doing this only to build up badges and get enhance gear from heroics.

I have 86 badges and I have already purchased, Dory's Embrace, Stonebreaker's Totem, and Choker of Vile Intent.

What else should I get?

Wisher
02-10-2008, 02:46 PM
Choker of Vile intent is the necklace with 21 agility or something like that, 17 hit rating and some AP? Cause worgen claw necklace in kara has 1 less hit rating but 3 more stam then that.

The Coder
02-10-2008, 02:47 PM
Resto- The cool shaman spec.

Spirit_Monger
02-10-2008, 06:50 PM
i use to click, and use the Arrow Keys, but when i hit 60 and started to PVP coz i wasnt in a raiding guild. i realized that arrow Keys just dosnt cut it.

So i forced my self to swap, i changed my desk around, so i was uncomfortable for me to use the arrow keys, changed my chair palcement,... Etc Etc
but i Aslo got a new UI, that hide all my action bars, Forcing me to key bind..

Its sooo Much better... and works 100times more :)

Yeah.

I PvP all the time but in BGs I don't think clicking has hurt me a lot.
Actually lead the BG's in damage a lot of the time.
I figure by 70 or before I start arena I'd want to be using WASD.
I'll probably try binding the ones I use most but at the same time keep them available for clicking and see if I can switch that way.

Not sure how much they help in raid, other than helping have a cleaner interface.

I'm tempted to level a character on that new server to see how fast I can get to 70, but I still haven't had a 70 yet so I'm trying to resist that urge.

The Coder
02-10-2008, 07:37 PM
Not hard to to BGs on a lock.

Spirit_Monger
02-10-2008, 07:42 PM
Aye. It's usually a lock, hunter, or rogue on top.
Fun it just run out and dot ally up when I'm on a team with retards that stand no chance at winning.

IPlayWoW
02-10-2008, 07:51 PM
Being a healer in raids sucks sometimes, as dps you only need a few add ons to max your abilities... healer is so much more...

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/74/raiduicd9.jpg

See what I mean?

Keybinded healing is great though, as you only need like, 3 buttons while in combat to heal with as a healadin. A few extras for res/buffs/DI etc.

Spirit_Monger
02-10-2008, 09:29 PM
How long did it take you guys to switch to keybindings, for those who were former clickers?

I started to a little now, and it isn't too bad, just a little weird so far. :p

Wisher
02-10-2008, 10:20 PM
Clicking owns. I would be horrid with the keys. I douse W only sometimes when I'm running, but it's almost auto run or arrow keys for me.

And IplayWoW, that screen is waaaay to confusing for me O.O

Spirit_Monger
02-10-2008, 10:31 PM
Clicking is easier at first but I'll even admit keybindings are better.

Don't know how the screen is confusing for you though. I know what everything is and stuff, and I've never even done a raid. :p

Wisher
02-10-2008, 10:40 PM
Ive played without addons forevah.

Spirit_Monger
02-11-2008, 01:50 PM
Nevermind, just saw the new realm isn't PvP. :dry:

Ignition
02-11-2008, 03:56 PM
I Use PitBull, But im a bit of a minimalist, so mine look like this. I dont like Pictures and mess :P
http://i17.tinypic.com/8btfw2f.jpg (more or less)

at least that means you can use it. teach me!!!