World of Warcraft

[AlabamaBoy]

No links for you ever!

[Wisher]

lol alabama, when you have 12k mana why should I need 5% more? <.<

[spencer 555]

lol alabama, when you have 12k mana why should I need 5% more? <.<

why not? >.>

[The Coder]

Pfft my 3790 mana pool could own yours.


Guys I have something terrible to admit...

I got bored.. And curious... So I started experimenting...
i played a blood elf

/cry

[Wisher]

i don't get it.

is making fun of blood elves cool?

[Spirit_Monger]

I didn't hate BE at first ... But now I really do dislike them.
Their starting zone sucks so bad as well.

Had some level 51 Shaman chase me when I left Gadgetzan earlier. I was level 46 at the time.
Couldn't even bring me below half health, with my imp on passive.
Pretty sad.

[The Coder]

CAP'N PLANET UI!
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9063/wowscrnshot030408214836hk6.jpg

I'm SOOO downloading this when it's released.

Edit: Well I'm gonna change parts of it, the bars for raid and party I don't like, nor for minimap or buffs. But aside from that...

[Wisher]

What spec was the shaman? and nice


BE Starting zone doesn't suck, I level faster there than anywhere else. I don't really care bout race, traits are useful sometimes.

Silence just owns in pvp <.<

[Wisher]

CAP'N PLANET UI!
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9063/wowscrnshot030408214836hk6.jpg

I'm SOOO downloading this when it's released.

Edit: Well I'm gonna change parts of it, the bars for raid and party I don't like, nor for minimap or buffs. But aside from that...
Do you know how to get addons on a mac by any chance? :(

And yes, double post :)

[AlabamaBoy]

Hehehe Spirit, he should have been able to take down a clothie with no issue at all.

Seriously, locks/mages/priests(save the occasional shadow priest) are proverbial pie on a shaman.

[Volcom]

You Shouldn't Include frost mage in that group

[spencer 555]

Hehehe Spirit, he should have been able to take down a clothie with no issue at all.

Seriously, locks/mages/priests(save the occasional shadow priest) are proverbial pie on a shaman.

good frost mages and locks arent gonna lose to a shaman 1v1

[AlabamaBoy]

Ahahahahaha.

Yes they are.

Not if it's a talented PvP shammy.

<-

[Spirit_Monger]

I'm just thinking he sucked and thought it would be easy since he was like 5 levels higher than me.
Should have taken a screenshot so I could check his armory later.

[spencer 555]

Your best bet to beat a frost mage is to go resto and ur best bet to beat a lock is to specc elemental. If I were a lock vs enhance shammy I would dot u up and kite till u frost shocked to catch up then I would deathcoil double fear (grounding totem ftl) and start draining. frost vs any melee is just funny :p

[AlabamaBoy]

Movement fixing trinkets!
2 min/ 5 min CD
and once i'm at the target... it's over.

If it really gets that bad...

/fireelemental

+my resil pwns yours :-P

Alsooo, earth shock earth shock earth shock

:P

[spencer 555]

Psh I dont even have a lock, but if I did my resil would pwn urs >.>

Pet on totems, yes fear is spammable (trinket), /fireelemental has less dps then my BM pet so Id say it wouldnt be overly useful in a fight vs an slsl lock

When u earthshock, I can dance around outside your melee range and when u frost shock to get on me Im free to cast drainlife/fear while u bash me its a pretty straightforward fight >.>

[The Coder]

Shaman = Most underpowered class in game. One of the most hilarious things I heard out of the forums was "Shamen became a challenging class to play like every other class in game" the problem, aside from repeatedly mispelling shaman, was that he played a hunter.

[FreddyAdu23]

And shadow priests would own all =)

expect some locks.....

[Wisher]

Pretty much every class is cake for BM hunter using cd's...

[The Coder]

And shadow priests would own all =)

expect some locks.....

LOL

Pretty much every class is cake for BM hunter using cd's...

And by CD's you mean traps, bestiality wrath, arcane shot and aimed shot. All of which will be ready within 2 minutes.

[spencer 555]

Pretty much every class is cake for BM hunter using cd's...


I gotta disagree with u their. Unless the two dueling are both undergeared BM isnt that great.

[halolover5.]

I gotta disagree with u their. Unless the two dueling are both undergeared BM isnt that great.

Yeah, I agree with that. BM hunters = easy for me in arena and pvp.

[Wisher]

i'm undergeared BM Just s1 but i have beaten some s3s...18 second insignia like trinket with + damage and a pet that crits for 600ish+ Does lots of damage.

And coder, i really only count BW as a CD.

<.<

[spencer 555]

i'm undergeared BM Just s1 but i have beaten some s3s...18 second insignia like trinket with + damage and a pet that crits for 600ish+ Does lots of damage.

And coder, i really only count BW as a CD.

<.<

I got a hard time believing that, I dont doubt your decent but they must have definately sucked.. unless they were a fire mage hehehe

[Wisher]

No it's just easy to take down some. Only issues I have are way better hunters or good frost mages.

[booyaka619]

What server do you peoples play on. Skullcrusher for me.

[spencer 555]

I play on executus US, lvl 70 marksman hunter

[booyaka619]

I'm a 41 BM hunter

[Wisher]

I play on executus US, lvl 70 marksman hunter

=O I Play on exec as an alliance, Finkles or rawrimevil is the name.

My main is horde hunter on Stonemaul.

[Ignition]

very important question.
I've been doing lots of research and I utterly cant decide.

I would really like any one who could contribute some support for one or the other to send me a PM please

I'm a two hand DPS retadin:
Armor penetration?
Or stack up on Haste?

Let me know, I need to get/make/buy stuff for our next 25man. I'd like to try and sneak up on our of our rouges :D

[Wisher]

What weap do you currently have?

And how much armor ignore you got atm?


Edit: Or you can ask your guildies what's better/what they need or prefer.

[AlabamaBoy]

Get..... Savagery!!!!

[spencer 555]

Although Im not overly confident in giving ret pally advice, Ill tell u what I'd do and reasons why :).

On my hunter for pve I stack crit because with serpent's swiftness (BM talent that reduces auto shot attack speed by 20%) and my 15% haste quiver. Along with attack speed reduction abilities like improved aspect of the hawk and rapid fire... I really dont need to be shooting any faster then I already am (to much is not good for my dps rotation :P)

When I see armor reduction on a peice of equipment I think to myself, hmm thats a nice bonus. I dont look FOR armor reduction I just consider an added bonus to a peice of gear on top of the either crit/ap/haste stacking I guess is what im trying to say. Its kinda like spell penetration for caster classes (armor penetration is definately better but the point is) u dont see any mages stacking spell penetration over haste or spell damage or crit.

Since you are using a big bulky 2h and have no (Im fairly sure) talents that reduce your attack speed and with the changes to haste coming out in 2.4 I would suggest stacking haste instead of armor reduction (if u can get both on a peice of gear wich Im pretty sure is fairly common go for it :p)

My best advice to u for raiding is to make sure u get hit capped (9% hit on raid bosses edit: rogues need 28% hahaha) and ask the expert ret pallys what they do :P

[The Coder]

Assuming Faerie Fired, fully sundered, Curse of Recklessness'd boss you'll be fighting against:


Armor mitigation of 2190 armor = 2190/(2190+11960) = 15.4%
Armor mitigation of 3690 armor = 3690/(3690+11960) = 23.5%


The advantage of armor penetration is that it's going to effect your crusader strike damage too, not just seal of blood (Or command) damage. I'm working on the math as I go, so don't feel ignored, I'm doing it while I drink in AV (I hit 250k healing in 51-60 AV!)

[Ignition]

(if u can get both on a peice of gear wich Im pretty sure is fairly common go for it :p)
Yeah I'm pretty sure that's not ture
Assuming Faerie Fired, fully sundered, Curse of Recklessness'd boss you'll be fighting against:



The advantage of armor penetration is that it's going to effect your crusader strike damage too, not just seal of blood (Or command) damage. I'm working on the math as I go, so don't feel ignored, I'm doing it while I drink in AV (I hit 250k healing in 51-60 AV!)
OKay, I'm not sure if that was the update (post math) or not, but I'd like a little explanation to go with all those calculations, I'm an artiest not a coder remember.

I think I'm just going to PM you about this for further discussion, seeing as you're just the person I need do comparison calculations.

[The Coder]

Yeah I'm pretty sure that's not ture

OKay, I'm not sure if that was the update (post math) or not, but I'd like a little explanation to go with all those calculations, I'm an artiest not a coder remember.

I think I'm just going to PM you about this for further discussion, seeing as you're just the person I need do comparison calculations.

k

I was screwin' around on the PTR, and started a ret pally. Kinda cool. I ended up getting really lucky and scoring a huge string of crits, taking out an enhancement shaman in seconds. (With avenging wrath on :p)

I went with a 5/13/43 build, twas tight.

[spencer 555]

Yeah I'm pretty sure that's not true.

^^ tru lol my bad

However, after searching allakhazam for haste gear, it turned up very few results (only 24). Most of which is BT/hyjal gear, mail/leather, 1hers. I will say their is some haste gear for u in ZA but not enough to call it "stacking" imo. I would wait for more haste gear to come out before aiming for this.

I also gave a quick search for armor penetration, although this came back with a much greater amount of results (68), I still wouldnt recommend "stacking" this stat because the few peices u can actually use are either BT/hyjal gear, S3 gear or leather/mail. Since im guessing your a casual player I doubt u can get a significant increase in overall dps from the maybe and this is a generous maybe 5 peices u get with armor penetration.

To summarize if you are in BT/hyjal gear or you can deck yourself out in full
S3 feel free to ask someone else for help :P. If no the only plate/miscelany/cape/2h weapons with haste/armor penetration is from ZA/badges and if u do decide to choose one of these to stack on your gear your really only going to find maybe 5 peices that benefit u more then stacking crit/ap/str/hit. If I were u I would keep those 4 my main stats. I invite u to correct me if Im wrong :)

[Wizzy`]

Okay, so I got 3 level 50's on my old game, City of Heroes.
Now it's time for me to start my wrath on a new game...World of Warcraft. Muwahahaha.
I'm a level 10 Druid Nightelf. >: )

[FreddyAdu23]

what server u play Wizzy?

and what spec r u going to be?

[Wizzy`]

what server u play Wizzy?

and what spec r u going to be?

Uhh, i'm on Bronzebeard with my Guild from City of Heroes. And I have no idea what "Spec" means. If by that you mean like..Enchanter...Then that's what I am, an Enchanter.

btw, lvl 12 now. B)

[Wisher]

Spec is your talents. Like spell/ability talents, not professions like enchanting/mining etc.

[booyaka619]

I soloed stocks as a 40 :cool:
Didn't take that long.

[spencer 555]

Uhh, i'm on Bronzebeard with my Guild from City of Heroes. And I have no idea what "Spec" means. If by that you mean like..Enchanter...Then that's what I am, an Enchanter.

btw, lvl 12 now. B)

Transfer to executus, we have sexy time yes?

[booyaka619]

Skullcrusher is better :p

[The Coder]

I'm decided what to reroll on tourney ptr, yea, it sickens me what's on there.

The only class/spec I haven't tried is holy pally, fire, arcanefire, and arcane mages, destruction locks, traditional combat rogues.

I'm liking my 18/42/0 lock spec so far. Gives a pretty good shot in PvP. Felguard's stun + Death Coil + Fear = Awesomeness.

[spencer 555]

I'm decided what to reroll on tourney ptr, yea, it sickens me what's on there.

The only class/spec I haven't tried is holy pally, fire, arcanefire, and arcane mages, destruction locks, traditional combat rogues.

I'm liking my 18/42/0 lock spec so far. Gives a pretty good shot in PvP. Felguard's stun + Death Coil + Fear = Awesomeness.

Me and tungus are lookin for someone who can play a rogue, mage or lock well if anyones interested in running in the tourny with us >.>

[Wisher]

I'm decided what to reroll on tourney ptr, yea, it sickens me what's on there.

The only class/spec I haven't tried is holy pally, fire, arcanefire, and arcane mages, destruction locks, traditional combat rogues.

I'm liking my 18/42/0 lock spec so far. Gives a pretty good shot in PvP. Felguard's stun + Death Coil + Fear = Awesomeness.

Thats only 60 talent points? are you level 69?

[The Coder]

Thats only 60 talent points? are you level 69?

18/43/0 or something


I don't know.

What matters is, I own.

[booyaka619]

You guys confuse me.

I'm a noob ;)

[Ignition]

Okay, so I got 3 level 50's on my old game, City of Heroes.
Now it's time for me to start my wrath on a new game...World of Warcraft. Muwahahaha.
I'm a level 10 Druid Nightelf. >: )
NNOooooooOOOOoooo Play hord, and play it on my server damn it!
18/43/0 or something


I don't know.

What matters is, I own.
I can show you one of the best PvP specs I've ever come across/made/fiddled with.

[The Coder]

I'm a level 10 vice president

[booyaka619]

I have a 41 dwarf.....Hunter....
Horde sux

[Ignition]

I'm a level 10 vice president
Of?

[FreddyAdu23]

I have a 41 dwarf.....Hunter....
Horde sux

i have a lvl 70 dwarf hunter 41/20/0 and horde does suck

[Spirit_Monger]

Nah, Alliance definitely suck.
Horde is the way to go.

Has anyone else heard about Wowhead having trojans in their ads, along with Allakazam and Thottbot?
I've heard they have trojans in their ads. Allakazam and Thottbot were bought by gold sellers and I'm not sure what the deal is with Wowhead.
I'm starting to use http://www.wowdb.com/ . Pretty close to Wowhead, just wish it had some more screenshots.

[Ignition]

Viruses, spam ware, trojans, spy ware everything.
I'm downloading them and spreading them at will

Mac FTMFW :D





Any thoughts as to plopping Mongoose on a big 2 hander? (keep in mind I'm going to be trying to pile on haste rating after all the good 2.4 crap comes out)

[Wisher]

ignition you have an idea how to download addons for a mac?

[booyaka619]

i have a lvl 70 dwarf hunter 41/20/0 and horde does suck

Dwarf + Hunter = Pwned

[The Coder]

Viruses, spam ware, trojans, spy ware everything.
I'm downloading them and spreading them at will

Mac FTMFW :D





Any thoughts as to plopping Mongoose on a big 2 hander? (keep in mind I'm going to be trying to pile on haste rating after all the good 2.4 crap comes out)


I dunno. With all the extra attacks you'll probably get high procs... Not sure.

[spencer 555]

Any thoughts as to plopping Mongoose on a big 2 hander? (keep in mind I'm going to be trying to pile on haste rating after all the good 2.4 crap comes out)

Ive seen it before could definately be worth it :)

That or executioner are really nice

[spencer 555]

Dwarf + Hunter = Pwned

psh NE rawr

[Ignition]

ignition you have an idea how to download addons for a mac?
Sure do, want a copy of my custom UI? built it me self with a pile of low resource plugins that are amazing/cant live with out/super handy.
PM me and I can probably explain, super simply if you're not a Mac tard.
I dunno. With all the extra attacks you'll probably get high procs... Not sure.
Do some crazy math for me man, I need a good wepon enchant and I'd like some facts/opinions/figures that'll help me lean either towards Mongoose, or Vengeance

[Wisher]

Sure do, want a copy of my custom UI? built it me self with a pile of low resource plugins that are amazing/cant live with out/super handy.
PM me and I can probably explain, super simply if you're not a Mac tard.

Do some crazy math for me man, I need a good wepon enchant and I'd like some facts/opinions/figures that'll help me lean either towards Mongoose, or Vengeance


i'm not that good with my com so if you can explain things in PMs it would be great. Can you take a s/s of what your addons look like atm?

[The Coder]

Do some crazy math for me man, I need a good wepon enchant and I'd like some facts/opinions/figures that'll help me lean either towards Mongoose, or Vengeance

I'd probably say Mongoose. (And I'm thinking you mean executioner, not Vengeance, you were thinking about mongoose's synergy with the talent)

[booyaka619]

Mongoose = Hawt

[The Coder]

So I'm testing a hunter against a pally. He uses every single one of his cooldowns. And he calls me cheap for first aiding.

[Spirit_Monger]

No reason not to first aid.
If he is going to bubble and heal himself, makes no sense to just stand there and not do so.

[The Coder]

Well, I also did freezing trap him and bandage too, to ensure the full affect. It ended up being a 15 minute duel, then the server went down...

[booyaka619]

I hate how horde always win BGs :shout:

:worthy:Alliance

[The Coder]

I hate...

Mages - QQ that their underpowered, because they suck
Shadow Priests - QQ that they're underpowered, because they refuse to spec the PvP spec and heal
Enhancement and Elemental Shaman - QQ that they're underpowered, because they refuse to PvP spec and heal
Hunters - Because 90% of their class sucks and the 10% that's good is so OP it's not funny
Warlocks - QQ about everything, they're quite OP
Warriors - LOLSPAMSTRINGINTURCEPT
Rogues - LOLSTUNLOK
Druids - ZOMG WE NED MUNKIN AND FEREL VIIABILITYES
Paladins - LOLBUBLE

[booyaka619]

What do you like? :confused:

[The Coder]

Intelligent players

[booyaka619]

I am intelligent. In BGs I'm a 41 hunter and pwn people. I only have 2450 health too. ;)

[spencer 555]

I am intelligent. In BGs I'm a 41 hunter and pwn people. I only have 2450 health too. ;)

Wait till ur 70 till you can judge your skills, hunters are ridiculously overpowered (the pets do like 90% of the work) until people get some hp :p

<--- lvl 70 hunter yes I had fun lvling to :P muahaha

[The Coder]

I am intelligent. In BGs I'm a 41 hunter and pwn people. I only have 2450 health too. ;)

Lol. My priest would melt your face.


... If you didn't dispel my goddamned bubble cause you're OP.

[Ignition]

i'm not that good with my com so if you can explain things in PMs it would be great. Can you take a s/s of what your addons look like atm?
Com? Hell I just download the addon folder, then plop that in my interface > Addon folder inside my WoW apps folder. None of those updater/installer 3rd party crap.

Paladins - LOLBUBLE
But boy do I love 'LOL'ing at you from in there as my leet PvE bawlz to the wallz deeps spec and still prawn.
Intelligent players
Bingo
I am intelligent. In BGs I'm a 41 hunter and pwn people. I only have 2450 health too. ;)
Fail.
Intelligent player + Hunter = unintelligent player.
Hunter + Player = n/a (on the topic of intelligence)


@coder: No I meant vengeance, what's the point of using executioner when I'm not stacking armor pen? it's only a few hundred. Not really worth it in my opinion if I'm going to be trying to stack haste for extra swings

[AlabamaBoy]

You havn't been on in forever Necross.

:-P

I'm like level 26.

[spencer 555]

No I meant vengeance, what's the point of using executioner when I'm not stacking armor pen? it's only a few hundred. Not really worth it in my opinion if I'm going to be trying to stack haste for extra swings

veangeance: does this enchant exist? I havent heard of it if it does.

executioner: almost 900 armor penetration and a nice proc rate, im sure if u did the math ud be getting a significant dps upgrade, and since (Im not aware of any) their are no weapon ENCHANTS thats increase haste of a weapon why not get this sicknasty enchant over say.. savagery :P

Mongoose: like I said Ive seen good ret pallys use this, it could be really nice

Savagery: who uses savagery nowadays :P

Edit: About the hunter thing, intelligent hunters do exist >.> I know a few really good hunters (3 in particular with over 2k rating in arena and with BT sets) and I wouldnt call myself an unintelligent hunter <.<

However never ever pug with a hunter most hunters are SO bad.. lol

[Spirit_Monger]

I think I'm going to skip the BG's until 59. Don't feel like waiting for them so much and I'm sure the gear would be replaced once I hit Outland anyway.

http://i30.tinypic.com/dr332u.jpg

Anyone else get long wait times for the 49 bracket?

[The Coder]

veangeance: does this enchant exist? I havent heard of it if it does.

executioner: almost 900 armor penetration and a nice proc rate, im sure if u did the math ud be getting a significant dps upgrade, and since (Im not aware of any) their are no weapon ENCHANTS thats increase haste of a weapon why not get this sicknasty enchant over say.. savagery :P

Mongoose: like I said Ive seen good ret pallys use this, it could be really nice

Savagery: who uses savagery nowadays :P

Edit: About the hunter thing, intelligent hunters do exist >.> I know a few really good hunters (3 in particular with over 2k rating in arena and with BT sets) and I wouldnt call myself an unintelligent hunter <.<

However never ever pug with a hunter most hunters are SO bad.. lol

See, that's the thing. Good hunters = Pwnenation.

Bad hunters = Buffed so much they can still compete.

[booyaka619]

Hunters FTW!!!
Rogues are also sweet.

[Wisher]

Rogues are cake :)

[spencer 555]

See, that's the thing. Good hunters = Pwnenation.

Bad hunters = Buffed so much they can still compete.

Im definately going to have to disagree with u on the part where u say hunters are so buffed that huntards can still compete. Good hunters are always gonna be GOOD and bad hunters are always gonna be BAD.

The no deadzone thing is really nice but was it really necessary to have a deadzone in the first place?? I mean comon any class in their right mind, if they saw a hunter they would go hide behind a pilla and wait till the hunter got close enough to get in the deadzone making us completely useless... it isnt the end all be all of hunter buffs, granted it is nice, but u can still use this strategy, u just have to get a little bit closer to us to make us useless.

As for MS shot, it is just a bandage I mean shit it takes 3 seconds to cast the dam thing and it has a 15 second cooldown with a bitchload of pushback how on earth do people expect hunters to keep that up like rogues/warriors keep their MS up in 3v3 or 5v5... on top of that it is our most mana ineficient shot, it requires talent points and if crit on someone in full resilience u get to see a whopping 1.4-5k crit, less if plate, 800 if not crit.. 3 seconds for a whopping 1.4k hmm I dont know any class that has a hard time doing this much damage in 3 seconds in full greens let alone full S3.

Moving on to arcane shot dispel the last of the hunter buffs for pvp. It is a nice buff to a pretty crappy shot that is only good because its our only useful instant burst that we can use on the run. I would trade my arcane shot+dispel in for a shot that actaully does damage worth the 250 mana that the highest rank of arcane shot does. The thing crits people in full resil gear for like 600 and in full resil u dont often get many crits so its even more pathetically inefficient to use. Ontop of that since it is such a mana intense shot compared to other hunter shots that I use the lowest possible rank of this just for the dispel. In comparison to my other shots that do double the damage and costs half.. I would have to say arcane shot+dispel is pretty crappy compared to those shots, but since I cant fire them while Im kiting (what other class can have their damage cut down to roughly 10% of its potential when they are forced into moving? If u wanna argue that fire mage is a pvp viable specc sure but other then that the answer is their is no other dps class like that)

I do have to agree about good hunters being even more amazing though. In terms of arena, hunters should be dominating the 2v2 bracket. Slap a good hunter with a good resto druid and the only teams thatll give a problem are lock+rogue/resto druid or spriest/rogue.. even then its not an overly hard fight lol. Poor melee classes get cc'ed up the arse and cant do anything while I drain their pocket healer or dps.

Unfortunately it is pretty hard to find a good resto druid that isnt already carrying a facerolling lock/warrior to 2k+. I to failed in my search to find a compitent resto druid this season so I started it up with a disc priest friend of mine. We just hit 1700 and continue to win games. Any team with a warrior/rogue, especially undead, are really hard for us though because atm my partner isnt in full pvp gear and they just rip through his squishyness without us being able to do anything about it.. even when he gets geared for it I really doubt much will change vs these setups wich are quite frequent on my battlegroup ><.

As far as pve goes, what buffs were hunters given for pve???? aspect of the viper to regen mana because of so called mana issues = huge dps loss and therefore not worth using.. thats the only thing I can think of pve buffwise for hunters... were fine in pve and always will be no need to buff or nerf us their. Again, bad hunters will always be bad and good hunters are gonna be at the top of every recount report :)

On a side note, I hear ret pallys may be getting an MS added to one of their atks (crusader strike with ms :o /cry) all I have to say to this is OMG SCARY. If they do deside to do this I hope they tone it down bit from the warrior MS because u guys already have so much more burst then an arms warrior its not even funny lol. You'll be seeing alot of retpally + rogue/lock/mage topping the charts in 2v2 :P

/end rant

[AlabamaBoy]

Everyone laughs at hunters.

[Wisher]

That's before bestial wrath :cool:

[spencer 555]

That's before bestial wrath :cool:

lol <33

[IPlayWoW]

No, thats before, at the time and after bestial wrath.

[Wisher]

I want new patch :(

[Woodland]

That's before bestial wrath :cool:
BM Hunters still can't beat my Feral Druid. =]

I sometimes think they forget I can charge/stun them. xD

[spencer 555]

Ya but your forgetting we have tame beast woody, what do u think happens when we see a bear charge/stun us >.>

[Wisher]

scare beast.

[Woodland]

You think you have time to scare beast? I'm so scared, I've got like 3 stun moves all lasting about 6 seconds each, enough time for me to lay into you. =]

[Wisher]

Yes since you can stun while BW is active woody. Face it hunters>Feral druids.

Boomkins are different though..

[Woodland]

Yeah because you can enrage when I'm stealthed. GL with that.

Besides, when you do pop a bear form and enrage/feral regen so watch my health just go back up from the noob DPS you dealt. And seeing as most hunters go MM to bash "Aimed shot" (Because I'm already travel form/running. lolol).. It's even funnier.

[Wisher]

MM Sucksss.

[The Coder]

Yeah because you can enrage when I'm stealthed. GL with that.

Besides, when you do pop a bear form and enrage/feral regen so watch my health just go back up from the noob DPS you dealt. And seeing as most hunters go MM to bash "Aimed shot" (Because I'm already travel form/running. lolol).. It's even funnier.

Everyone knows you'll be pillar humpin, nobody smart would bother to try casting against you

Anyway, hunter > feral
By far.

[spencer 555]

Yeah because you can enrage when I'm stealthed. GL with that.

Besides, when you do pop a bear form and enrage/feral regen so watch my health just go back up from the noob DPS you dealt. And seeing as most hunters go MM to bash "Aimed shot" (Because I'm already travel form/running. lolol).. It's even funnier.

Theirs so much failure in this post I dont even know where to start :o

1- What hunter enrages when ur stealthed... thats stupid, u pounce we TBW outta it intimidate for yes three seconds wich IS long enough to cast fear, when u trinket /charge u run into a trap hehe. Then we run out to full distance and kite outta ur charge range till u run into a trap again. You must vs some really crappy BM hunters on ur server woody :P

2- Any BM hunter no wait.. ANY HUNTER without aimed shot is a failure and any MM hunter who uses aimed shot while you arent CCed is a failure. All hunters should have aimed shot because u need to get aimed shot to get mortal shots (a talent that adds 30% more crit damage = necessary to all hunters no matter what build)

3- Any hunter who cant outdps a feral druid in a raid is a failure, ya I said it feral is for tanking :P

4- Im an MM hunter and I can honestly tell you NO MM hunter with an IQ over 10 would use aimed shot constantly in a duel and also, it is quite impossible to bash/spam aimed shot because it has a CD of about 15 seconds...

5- Most hunters do not go MM, most hunters go BM

6- If you are travel form running away from us... havent we already raped u with our sicknasty druid CC and stomped your face in?? feign death, mount, dismount on druid, scatter shot, wingclip, multi, /spit on dead running druid :P

Edit: Feral druids are almost as easy as prot warriors and arcane mages for me :P I can litterally fool around with a feral druid ccing him for like 10 minutes until he trys to pew pew me because he cant get close to me without being CCed (hunter cc has no diminishing returns :o)

[AlabamaBoy]

Killed a 26 rogue, 17 hunter, 26 lock and ?? warrior on my lock today.

All at once.

Banished the lock's voidwalker, seduced the warrior, two dots + amplify curse killed the lock, feared + dots on the rogue, succubus killed the hunter.

I'm level 28.

:)

Owned.

None of them were afk.

EDIT:

The warrior was probably around 39-42 he didn't have his mount yet.

[Woodland]

Mk, Coder and Spencer. If either of you are on EU come Daggerspine and let's rock.

[Wisher]

Woodland you should respec balance if you're thinking about beating a hunter.

[spencer 555]

Woodland you should respec balance if you're thinking about beating a hunter.

3 words wisher, OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMKIN go oom

Mk, Coder and Spencer. If either of you are on EU come Daggerspine and let's rock.

EU hehehe ya right Im canadian lets do this on the real servers?? US-executus :P

Killed a 26 rogue, 17 hunter, 26 lock and ?? warrior on my lock today.

All at once.

Banished the lock's voidwalker, seduced the warrior, two dots + amplify curse killed the lock, feared + dots on the rogue, succubus killed the hunter.

I'm level 28.

:)

Owned.

None of them were afk.

EDIT:

The warrior was probably around 39-42 he didn't have his mount yet.

Madskillz bro :)

[Woodland]

Woodland you should respec balance if you're thinking about beating a hunter.
Beat many hunters on my Serv and those that are in PvP also. So I'm fine at the moment thanks.

I used to be Boomkin but it's quicker to level as Feral seeing as there's a huge shortage of tanks on my server. -_-

[Ignition]

NO! you all fail except Dan.
Hunter = Phail
end of story

[Ignition]

LMAO
Has any one read any of the comics on WoW's site? I've flipped through almost all of them now. Some of them are really good.

[Sith Happens]

Theirs so much failure in this post I dont even know where to start :o

1- What hunter enrages when ur stealthed... thats stupid, u pounce we TBW outta it intimidate for yes three seconds wich IS long enough to cast fear, when u trinket /charge u run into a trap hehe. Then we run out to full distance and kite outta ur charge range till u run into a trap again. You must vs some really crappy BM hunters on ur server woody :P

2- Any BM hunter no wait.. ANY HUNTER without aimed shot is a failure and any MM hunter who uses aimed shot while you arent CCed is a failure. All hunters should have aimed shot because u need to get aimed shot to get mortal shots (a talent that adds 30% more crit damage = necessary to all hunters no matter what build)

3- Any hunter who cant outdps a feral druid in a raid is a failure, ya I said it feral is for tanking :P

4- Im an MM hunter and I can honestly tell you NO MM hunter with an IQ over 10 would use aimed shot constantly in a duel and also, it is quite impossible to bash/spam aimed shot because it has a CD of about 15 seconds...

5- Most hunters do not go MM, most hunters go BM

6- If you are travel form running away from us... havent we already raped u with our sicknasty druid CC and stomped your face in?? feign death, mount, dismount on druid, scatter shot, wingclip, multi, /spit on dead running druid :P

Edit: Feral druids are almost as easy as prot warriors and arcane mages for me :P I can litterally fool around with a feral druid ccing him for like 10 minutes until he trys to pew pew me because he cant get close to me without being CCed (hunter cc has no diminishing returns :o)

Agreed, I have a BM T4 huntard. I easily kill any class 1v1, locks do give me a bit of trouble though, same with frost mages. It does help with full Glad/Merc though, Oomkins aren't terribly difficult as there instant cast spells drain them horribly fast, and Enrage easily destroys them. But druid in general are a tough kill in BG's especially if I'm not expecting one.

[Ignition]

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#120
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#117
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#115
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#97
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#85
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#85
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#92 (this one looks cheesy but it still gave me the lolz
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#126
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#165


Not only do Hord own, the majority seem to have better senses of humor

[AlabamaBoy]

Undead are so fun to play.

I killed two 28 gnomes tailing me today.

OPclassFTW

[Wizzy`]

Woody..what server are you on?
edit nevermind

get on US servers. plz

[AlabamaBoy]

You can play with me wizzy. ;-p

Auchindoun or Detheroc - Horde

Alexstraza - Alliance...... Endless made me do it, he's unwilling to roll a horde, so if I play with him.. it has to be an ally.

I made a druid. <.<

[Spirit_Monger]

Killed a 26 rogue, 17 hunter, 26 lock and ?? warrior on my lock today.

All at once.

Banished the lock's voidwalker, seduced the warrior, two dots + amplify curse killed the lock, feared + dots on the rogue, succubus killed the hunter.

I'm level 28.

:)

Owned.

None of them were afk.

EDIT:

The warrior was probably around 39-42 he didn't have his mount yet.

Yeah, warlocks own.
Killed a 53 rogue, 49 hunter, and 50 warior all at once the other day, along with 3 other level 51 owlbeasts they were attacking.
I was at level 50.

Warrior was already injured but the hunter and rogue were at least at full health, and the 3 NPC's were around full.
The rogue alone should have been able to take me out ...

[AlabamaBoy]

No...

Locks should win every time.

[Spirit_Monger]

Against 3 people, all who were no more than 2 levels below, a lock should lose.
Warriors can't always be feared, hunters hurt from such a range, along with their pet ... and rogues are rogues.

There is no way I should have won it. :p

[The Coder]

Against 3 people, all who were no more than 2 levels below, a lock should lose.
Warriors can't always be feared, hunters hurt from such a range, along with their pet ... and rogues are rogues.

There is no way I should have won it. :p

Honestly, warriors who lose against locks suck. There's some respect for you if you die after you've killed the lock but dieing before you've killed him means you fail.

[AlabamaBoy]

Warriors... should always lose.

They suck.

[Spirit_Monger]

Maybe at the lower levels, but once they become immune to fear 80% of the time, they shouldn't lose ...
A melee who hits hard, keeps the lock from getting away, and is mostly immune to the locks escape/breathing room spell of fear, shouldn't lose.
They should be on you the entire time, and without a great way of healing, a lock should be screwed.

[booyaka619]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1TueJSFKsKw

This is the best song ever!

[AlabamaBoy]

Haha, amplify curse+curse of exhaustion.

+Seduce.

They don't really have much chance.

[Wizzy`]

I'm level 29 Resto druid. B)
I'm starting to actually get a hang of the game...And i'm actually really good at it. Sucks that all of you aren't on my server, because i'd give you gold. Because guess what? My brother is freaking awesome and gave me 1000 GOLD!

[AlabamaBoy]

1000g = 1/8 of all your mount prices.

Hahaha.

[booyaka619]

Doesnt anyone like "I am Murloc" the song I posted? It is also in my siggy.

[Wizzy`]

1000g = 1/8 of all your mount prices.

Hahaha.

...And i'm only level 29. O_o
And I have yet to start farming.

...
And i've gotten 48G on my own since then..Which was like...2 days ago.
Plus, I'm not getting my mount..I know it's 60% increase..But my travel form is 40% and I can deal with that. I'd rather have an Epic Mount (Unless I can't do that without getting a real mount.) And I also get a flight form at 68 or 70.

So pwn you in the face.

[AlabamaBoy]

Warlocks > Druids

Wait... are you an ally or horde?

[Wizzy`]

Warlocks > Druids

Wait... are you an ally or horde?

Ally.

And I really don't care what's better, because I enjoy my character.

[Spirit_Monger]

Succy helps, but with diminishing returns, it still isn't incredibly easy.
I think fear and seduce work essentially the same though ... but if they don't, then yeah, definitely a lot easier to mobilize him.

Wizzy, you need to at least buy the riding for the 60% increase before you can get the 100%, so you might as well just buy the mount to (pretty cheap compared to the riding skill).

[Wizzy`]

Wizzy, you need to at least buy the riding for the 60% increase before you can get the 100%, so you might as well just buy the mount to (pretty cheap compared to the riding skill).

So you _need_ the regular mount to get an epic mount? That's gay.

[Spirit_Monger]

You don't need the mount, but you need to purchase the skill before you can purchase the epic mount skill.

[The Coder]

Lol hemodaggerrogue.
I fought one on my shaman. My level 31 hits harder than he does.

[booyaka619]

me a 41 and a 38 took out a 50 something horde :p

[Wisher]

i think a lock can beat a warr at any level, they shouldn't really lose. Even if they have the fear immune thing, you can death coil for instant health, DoTs plus pets should rape the warr. Depends on warr's crits against you really.

[Volcom]

A Good Warrior will now how to Stop Chain Fearing, get rid of Pets, and stay close enough to melee a lock down.

A good warrior
not most warriors

[Spirit_Monger]

Last warrior I was against 1v1 destroyed me. He was about 3 levels higher as well, but no huge level difference.
Kept breaking my fears with insignia I guess, and was immune the rest of the time.

iHoT didn't help THAT much against him. (If anything ... I don't remember exactly, and I'm not sure if Horror is the same system as fear)
DoTs killed him eventually I know but that was the second time he attacked me. Knew I'd die so I made sure to renew all the DoTs first instead of trying to drain some more life.

BG's are often a different story for me though.

Game card expires tomorrow. Not totally sure if I'll be starting on a free server or activating another card. At level 52 right now.
If I activate another I will probably drop Skinning for Enchanting around level 60, after I get the Dreadsteed I guess.
If I do, I will also probably respec into Demo at 55-58. Anyone played with that?

[The Coder]

Last warrior I was against 1v1 destroyed me. He was about 3 levels higher as well, but no huge level difference.
Kept breaking my fears with insignia I guess, and was immune the rest of the time.

iHoT didn't help THAT much against him. (If anything ... I don't remember exactly, and I'm not sure if Horror is the same system as fear)
DoTs killed him eventually I know but that was the second time he attacked me. Knew I'd die so I made sure to renew all the DoTs first instead of trying to drain some more life.

BG's are often a different story for me though.

Game card expires tomorrow. Not totally sure if I'll be starting on a free server or activating another card. At level 52 right now.
If I activate another I will probably drop Skinning for Enchanting around level 60, after I get the Dreadsteed I guess.
If I do, I will also probably respec into Demo at 55-58. Anyone played with that?

I'd go Demon rather than Demo at high levels. Felguard = TEH PWNZAGE. Anyway, a warrior can get 50s of fear immunity without trinkets. Berserker Rage + Death Wish + Berserker Rage.

[Spirit_Monger]

Yeah. I was thinking about going with one of these two specs:

Affliction (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVMrVRfkqtbodxczIb)
Demo (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IV0bZbxczIizzespxx0z) (with 2/2 in Health Funnel instead of Improved Health stone ... don't know how much I'd need to use Health Funnel yet.

Tried the server Megabyte had posted a while ago.
Leveling was really fast (Level 10 in maybe 10 minutes)
Don't know if I'll definitely stick with it or not, but it is nice to use when you don't have an active account with the normal servers.

[The Coder]

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/42/wowscrnshot032108003246oq1.jpg

Did it solo (Aside from the rogue that opened the doors for me, but that part required no skill)

Died twice. First time was because I screwed up a jump, and went into lava where I had no shot at living, but that was the first jump, so I started back at the start again. My second death was because I didn't see one of the mobs in the lava when I was swimming, so I died, reincarnated, nature's swiftness'd, and made it to shore with <100 health left. Drank up, made it the rest of the way.

Edit: I have the video of the first death, caught with fraps. Don't have it registered though, so the full attunement I don't have recorded. So I'm uploading it to youtube now.

[Spirit_Monger]

Was soloing SFK on the private realm at level 29. Got until there were 4 mobs and I couldn't take them all down.
At level 29 I have like 600 health. Nothing is scaled really well I suppose until 70.
Tons of bugs.
VW is an absolute tank, and Sacrifice is bugged so you can constantly use it without the VW dying, but it doesn't help much against 4 mobs, they get you eventually.

Probably going to go back to normal WoW soon. Much more fun.
Don't know how Mega did it. :p

[Wisher]

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/42/wowscrnshot032108003246oq1.jpg

Did it solo (Aside from the rogue that opened the doors for me, but that part required no skill)

Died twice. First time was because I screwed up a jump, and went into lava where I had no shot at living, but that was the first jump, so I started back at the start again. My second death was because I didn't see one of the mobs in the lava when I was swimming, so I died, reincarnated, nature's swiftness'd, and made it to shore with <100 health left. Drank up, made it the rest of the way.

Edit: I have the video of the first death, caught with fraps. Don't have it registered though, so the full attunement I don't have recorded. So I'm uploading it to youtube now.

What level is your character now?

and did kara, Legacy=mine :)
Also got bloodlust broach or w/e for Badges of justice :!

[The Coder]

What level is your character now?

and did kara, Legacy=mine :)
Also got bloodlust broach or w/e for Badges of justice :!

Been 60 for a while, today I got the D1 shoulders, or as I like to call them, "Reindeer Shoulders". Because they honestly look like freakin' antlers.

[Wizzy`]

Now i'm level 34. :)

And by the way, pretty much everyone on this forum except Kyir sucks at WoW.

and idk about Volcom, because he doesnt post here much.

because now that ive actually played, and know what the hell is going on..You're all retarded.


if you cant tell im being sarcastic then you really do suck at WoW

[Woodland]

34? Hehe, bless yah. ;)

[Wizzy`]

34? Hehe, bless yah. ;)

Hey, I only started two weeks ago. And some random person gave me 500g yesterday. So booyah in yer face!
AAAAAAnd, my GM is buying my mount for me. And my epic mount is only 90g LOLZ thats like, nothing.

To tell you the truth, i'm pretty sure i'll have 70 in 3-4 weeks. Maybe less. (And yes, I know how much XP it is to level. I live my life on MMO's, don't tell me what to do.

[Wisher]

Grats wizzy. Are you still a resto druid?

[Spirit_Monger]

Congrats on the 500G. Wish I had someone send me that much.
Is your GM buying the mount training to?
I know for the 60 mount the mount itself costs the 90G but the training costs more. Grats if they are buying that for you as well. :p

I'm probably going back to the normal game now.
Can't decide if I should use Titan Panel or switch to Fubar.
Fubar has more that you can do, but Titan is easier to customize.
Any suggestions?

[Wizzy`]

Congrats on the 500G. Wish I had someone send me that much.
Is your GM buying the mount training to?
I know for the 60 mount the mount itself costs the 90G but the training costs more. Grats if they are buying that for you as well. :p

Well, he isn't buying the training. But that doesn't matter, if need be i'll buy the gold.

Yeah, I will. Probably wont, but I will if I really need it.

And yes, i'm still a resto druid. God damn good one too.

edit: whats a private serveR?

[Spirit_Monger]

Link your armory?
Or what is your name and server?

[Wizzy`]

Link your armory?
Or what is your name and server?

Kitvul
Bronzebeard

[The Coder]

Wiz, your spec is awful.

Back on my mage (For like the 13th time)

Leveled 4 times today. Assisted AoE grinding in Arathi Foothills. Twas insane.

[Spirit_Monger]

Yeah, if you're going Resto I'd take points out of balance, and finish filling out each talent instead of leaving 4/5, 2/3, etc. unless that helps you get one of the talents you really wanted by leaving a point or so out of one.

Tried reinstalling the game so it would be clean for when I go back to the normal servers, but the Addons folder doesn't install, inside the interface folder.
Does anyone know if it installs when you log into the game, or download the updates, or what?

[Woodland]

Hey, I only started two weeks ago. And some random person gave me 500g yesterday. So booyah in yer face!
AAAAAAnd, my GM is buying my mount for me. And my epic mount is only 90g LOLZ thats like, nothing.

To tell you the truth, i'm pretty sure i'll have 70 in 3-4 weeks. Maybe less. (And yes, I know how much XP it is to level. I live my life on MMO's, don't tell me what to do.
I think I've got like 700g if I gathered up my gold from all my alts and stuck it onto what my main already has. And I've already got two epic mounts for my druid. ;)

To be honest, I don't know how you can level fast on your own. I'm only lvling really fast because I've got my IRL mate on his main to and we just power through everything.

[Spirit_Monger]

Get Joana's guide or something and use that to level.
I got myself one for free from some site and have been using it. Leveling is pretty quick that way.
Even quicker since Blizz had made it easier to level, so you can skip parts of that guide as well. My version only goes up to 60 though so I'll have to do Outland myself.

[Ignition]

I has an intense 2v2 team now. Some times I dont like getting on vent with them...

I get yelled at alot ¬ ¬
I'm getting better and at least now we're winning more then we're losing >_<

[Wizzy`]

My spec isn't awful, because..Hah..everytime i've had to be a healer for a team, they didn't die.
Also, I haven't really been looking for gear..All my gear is just stuff that's been dropped. I'm waiting till 70, when it actually matters to make my guy 1337, Right now my spec is fine, I haven't had any complaints. I'm waiting till 70 to make my guy good because i'm really only in it for PvP..The only reason im on a PvE server is because I don't feel like running around and getting ganked.

btw: total time played: 3 days, 11 hours, 55 minutes.

[booyaka619]

But ganking is fun :p

[Wizzy`]

yeah, after that post I went and bought some gear. >_>

[FreddyAdu23]

srry Wizzy' but ur a sucky resto healer....

on my priest today i got 66 =) Shadowfiend =)

[The Coder]

My spec isn't awful, because..Hah..everytime i've had to be a healer for a team, they didn't die.
Also, I haven't really been looking for gear..All my gear is just stuff that's been dropped. I'm waiting till 70, when it actually matters to make my guy 1337, Right now my spec is fine, I haven't had any complaints. I'm waiting till 70 to make my guy good because i'm really only in it for PvP..The only reason im on a PvE server is because I don't feel like running around and getting ganked.

btw: total time played: 3 days, 11 hours, 55 minutes.

Until you get to ZF, instances really are a joke. Zul'Farrak is the start of challenging instances, where you're going to need to work together.

Edit: I suppose it's not exactly challenging if done right. But at ZF, you really do need a tank, a skilled healer. I doubt you could heal for 10+ minutes straight, I honestly doubt it.

[AlabamaBoy]

Instances are hard when you solo them.

>.>

I can do SM GY alone.

Can't kill Doan in Library though.

Healing 10 minutes straight is impossible.

Nothing has that much mana.

By that I mean no breaks between heals... over 2-4 seconds.

I has an intense 2v2 team now. Some times I dont like getting on vent with them...

I get yelled at alot ¬ ¬
I'm getting better and at least now we're winning more then we're losing >_<

Just wait for me. :)

I won't yell.

[FreddyAdu23]

Until you get to ZF, instances really are a joke. Zul'Farrak is the start of challenging instances, where you're going to need to work together.

Edit: I suppose it's not exactly challenging if done right. But at ZF, you really do need a tank, a skilled healer. I doubt you could heal for 10+ minutes straight, I honestly doubt it.
I honestly think the only hard part of ZF, is that part where ur ontop of pyramid and all the people attack, (some Priest guy as boss at end) but that really is quite easy because at parts you can drink. In my opinion Sunken Temple is the first hard instance, because of its length, confusingness, some pretty hard bosses, pats, and size of mobs.

[Wisher]

ZF isn't really hard. I tanked it as a resto druid, dont really need a tank until maybe BRD, or even untill ramparts

[The Coder]

I guess 10 minutes straight was a bad term, but yea, depending on your group you may or may not be able to get a spot to drink up. You'll have to make careful pulls in some places is part of it.
And wisher, I didn't mean prot tank. I just mean a tank tanking.

[booyaka619]

Ok Which is the best kind of server lets take a vote.

(2)PvP:Booyaka,Wisher

RP

Non-PvP

tell me if I missed any different server types. I'm to lazy to check.

[Wisher]

PVP.

Coder-You don't need a tank in ZF, you can definately have just a healer and clear that instance. It's more difficult to pull that off in mara and on. It'd be difficult but it's definately doable.

[AlabamaBoy]

This doesn't apply to WoW.

You suck.

______________

Anyway.....

Group's not going to kick healers.

So if they run ahead while you drink, let one die, and they won't do it again.

[Wisher]

ok??

[The Coder]

Ok Which is the best kind of server lets take a vote.

(2)PvP:Booyaka,Wisher

RP

Non-PvP

tell me if I missed any different server types. I'm to lazy to check.

Depends. PvP is funner, PvE is easier to level.

[AlabamaBoy]

Not you Wisher, booyaka's server poll.

:p

Pointless.

[Wisher]

ohhhhhhhh. I see now :).

I have only played PVP, on PVE can you not be ganked in like stv and other places?

[Volcom]

ohhhhhhhh. I see now :).

I have only played PVP, on PVE can you not be ganked in like stv and other places?

Correct, But i have to say, ive played on both realms, and PVP Relams are Far superior.

[Wisher]

Getting ganked/ ganking is half the fun though. I still stand by PVP.

[Wizzy`]

Until you get to ZF, instances really are a joke. Zul'Farrak is the start of challenging instances, where you're going to need to work together.

Uhh..i'm a low level..Hence why I can't heal for 10 minutes? Once I get higher, I can get better gear, which will make my character..uhh..better? Yeah. I think that's it.

Druids have restoration for a reason, if it wasn't good, they wouldn't have it. Theres a reason for every spec, and you can make every spec good. IMO. Right now, i'm good for my level. And Coder, I heal for every instance, SM Cathedral is a tough instance. All other ones are a joke, I can tell you that. SM Cath is the only one that i've had someone die in, but I can rez..Yeah, it's a 20 minute cool down, but I don't need it twice within 20 minutes.

Freddy: How dare you say that, you have never even played with me. You've seen my stats, yeah. But that, again, no matter how much you think, doesn't mean shit. It's the way you play your char, and I can actually play my char.

Also, I re-specced my guy to the way you guys said, and now he blows chunks. Thanks for the retarded info guys. I should've known not to listen to TAO people about a MMO..

[Wisher]

Resto druids own at healing. I have a 46 resto druid and HoTs always keep group alive, just waait till you get 50%+ crit on regrowth, (think thats what its called) and innervate and swiftmend. Level 40 will own for you.


Edit: here's my druid http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Executus&n=Rawrimevil

[spencer 555]

Id like to announce my 2v2 team just hit 1800 =D yay me

[Spirit_Monger]

Uhh..i'm a low level..Hence why I can't heal for 10 minutes? Once I get higher, I can get better gear, which will make my character..uhh..better? Yeah. I think that's it.

Druids have restoration for a reason, if it wasn't good, they wouldn't have it. Theres a reason for every spec, and you can make every spec good. IMO. Right now, i'm good for my level. And Coder, I heal for every instance, SM Cathedral is a tough instance. All other ones are a joke, I can tell you that. SM Cath is the only one that i've had someone die in, but I can rez..Yeah, it's a 20 minute cool down, but I don't need it twice within 20 minutes.

Freddy: How dare you say that, you have never even played with me. You've seen my stats, yeah. But that, again, no matter how much you think, doesn't mean shit. It's the way you play your char, and I can actually play my char.

Also, I re-specced my guy to the way you guys said, and now he blows chunks. Thanks for the retarded info guys. I should've known not to listen to TAO people about a MMO..

In what way does he suck now? I'd think it would work out better once you leveled and could fill what you had all back in.
When you put more points in a category it is only making it better ...
Looks like it might be because you don't have all of the effects you had from having at least a point in a lot of categories. Once you level it should work out.

You're right about the gear though.
Gear doesn't matter too much at lower levels and you can get away with even the worst specs for a while.

My votes go to the PvP Servers.

[spencer 555]

RP if u like that stuff and pvp for the rest, pve sucks

[The Coder]

Uhh..i'm a low level..Hence why I can't heal for 10 minutes? Once I get higher, I can get better gear, which will make my character..uhh..better? Yeah. I think that's it.

Druids have restoration for a reason, if it wasn't good, they wouldn't have it. Theres a reason for every spec, and you can make every spec good. IMO. Right now, i'm good for my level. And Coder, I heal for every instance, SM Cathedral is a tough instance. All other ones are a joke, I can tell you that. SM Cath is the only one that i've had someone die in, but I can rez..Yeah, it's a 20 minute cool down, but I don't need it twice within 20 minutes.

Freddy: How dare you say that, you have never even played with me. You've seen my stats, yeah. But that, again, no matter how much you think, doesn't mean shit. It's the way you play your char, and I can actually play my char.

Also, I re-specced my guy to the way you guys said, and now he blows chunks. Thanks for the retarded info guys. I should've known not to listen to TAO people about a MMO..


SM: Cath was never really any trouble as long as you're group is smart and keeps the AoE spamming mobs away from your group.

Edit: As to your spec, you've got some in feral talents (IE, Naturalist, since you shouldn't be using Healing Touch that much, the strength of a druid is in HoTs) and Subtlety shouldn't be too needed unless you PvP a lot, or until higher levels where you're going to have to really worry about threat (though, with an even reasonable tank, you shouldn't have a problem keeping alive against a boss, you're only threat would be trash, and with a good tank, even that's no problem)

[booyaka619]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=N2Av0lUNS2k
Sweet spoof

[Wizzy`]

Coder, I guarantee you're one of those kids that get made fun of on WoW for saying anything.

[The Coder]

Coder, I guarantee you're one of those kids that get made fun of on WoW for saying anything.

Nope. People either find me funny (Not at me, at my jokes) or they're trolls. And the few trolls that come at me I know how to defend against.

[Warcow]

A Good Warrior will now how to Stop Chain Fearing, get rid of Pets, and stay close enough to melee a lock down.

A good warrior
not most warriors

Warlock is always > Warrior 1v1.

Destro locks absolutely murder them, SL Locks can tank them till they die, I'm not too familiar with how well the full demo lock would do, but I don't imagine it would be any different.

My 2v2 partner consistantly beats warriors at 40% or more health, the best of the warriors on our server (2200+ rating) without voidsaccing or healthstoning.

[FreddyAdu23]

Wizzy' at the time i looked at ur character, u had +8 damage and healing, which is kind of sucky for that lvl...

And you can know if ur a good healer until ur actually healing hard instances. (outland/60 raid instances) When the boss can crit and nearly kill ur tank....while you already have 1 person at 10%...

[The Coder]

Wizzy' at the time i looked at ur character, u had +8 damage and healing, which is kind of sucky for that lvl...

And you can know if ur a good healer until ur actually healing hard instances. (outland/60 raid instances) When the boss can crit and nearly kill ur tank....while you already have 1 person at 10%...

No, damage and healing are fail until high levels.

[Wizzy`]

Nope. People either find me funny (Not at me, at my jokes) or they're trolls. And the few trolls that come at me I know how to defend against.

Yeah, you're the kid that gets made fun of.

[The Coder]

Yeah, you're the kid that gets made fun of.

This is based off?

[AlabamaBoy]

^_~

Anyway...

I fought five mobs my level in the Arathi Highlands, did the showy sacrifice voidwalker, and rain of fire on myself, to slaughter them.

At this time a hunter my level comes at full health, curse of weakness the pet, fear him, whilst dotting. ^_^

/win

[The Coder]

^_~

Anyway...

I fought five mobs my level in the Arathi Highlands, did the showy sacrifice voidwalker, and rain of fire on myself, to slaughter them.

At this time a hunter my level comes at full health, curse of weakness the pet, fear him, whilst dotting. ^_^

/win

Well, that beats my 9 mob pull on my mage...

[Wizzy`]

This is based off?

Just the way you act here, I know the way you act on WoW, and I know the way people treat the people who act like you.
You think you're all high and mighty, but really everyone hates you and talks behind your back.

[The Coder]

Just the way you act here, I know the way you act on WoW, and I know the way people treat the people who act like you.
You think you're all high and mighty, but really everyone hates you and talks behind your back.

I know people talk behind my back. I don't make friends with those folk. I know who they be. And I still treat them the same. It doesn't mean people constantly lol at me in game.

[Wisher]

Magister's Terrace is pretty sweet. Did it on my healer, got to second boss than I had to leave.

First boss is like final boss in SV.
Second boss is somewhat like curator with the spawns..

I hope to finish it soon, instnace was pretty sweet.

[booyaka619]

I hate 40-49 BGs. the Warriors hit like 900s on meh!

[Woodland]

Only thing that really bugs me at the moment is a Felhunter in BG. It's like y'day had alot of DoTs on me so I popped healing touch, stacked lifebloom and rejuve and what does the lil fuker do? Devour magic. So I'm basically screwed. Man I hate locks sometimes, especially Human ones because of their stealth detection racial. =/

Anyway: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Daggerspine&n=Kodokid

That's my drood as he stands at 66. Just general feedback if you think he's pretty decent. With Mark of Wild I have 7k hp =]

[FreddyAdu23]

I did new instance on my hunter, its fun, i only got to beat the 2nd boss, cause we had to do kara. I think they are copying the bosses from, other instances.

[Wisher]

They are, they need some more creativity :dry:

[Ignition]

Meh? I thought it was one of the coolest instance I've done in a while. The cut seen was freaking sweet too!

[Volcom]

Find a Group and Go AQ40, now that is a Fun place..

[Wizzy`]

It doesn't mean people constantly lol at me in game.

Yeah, they do. Hahahaha. You're definitely the person who gets lol'd at 24/7. The person who everyone hates to team with...But only stays with cause they're good..

[Spirit_Monger]

Thinking I'll need more RAM sometime ...
Got a lock to summon me to Shattrath to train skinning last night, took me maybe 20-30 minutes to get to the trainer while grabbing a few factions on my way, and then back to a portal to Org.
I thought Org was bad to ...
Maybe I was there on a bad day and time since 2.4 came out but if it's anything like it was I'm screwed.

[Wisher]

New island lags a lot cause so many peopl ego there -.-

[AlabamaBoy]

Kill them!

It's my new ganking spot!

:-D

GTFO ALLIES!

[Spirit_Monger]

Does Shattrath usually lag?

And how much do you all actually go there?

[AlabamaBoy]

I go to shatt to get to other places.

And it's a bit laggy.

14 FPS.

[Spirit_Monger]

How much RAM do you have?

[AlabamaBoy]

No clue.

[Ignition]

why do people associate ram with better WoW performance? It's true it's it can help but to be completely honest:
I've got a great processor.
I've got very decent DDR2 ram, 2gb of it.

and guess what? I also get bad FPS in high population areas.

It's because I only have 64bit shared graphics on my GFX card -_-"

[Ignition]

Nvm

[Wisher]

Completed magister's terrace.

First boss is easy.
Second boss hardest one.
Third boss easy.
Final boss think kael'thaes or w/e is his name, is sort of hard. Just need to know the fight and own the bird ^.-

But you get a sweet epic gem for completing a quest there, and epics drop in regular MT.

I got the 20 AP gem you can also get 22 heal/8 SD or just 12 SD

[Ignition]

lawl@nub
I had that done on tuesday.


It's pretty easy in regular mode, even more so with a pally tank. I think a palatank is a MUST for heroic though.

[Spirit_Monger]

why do people associate ram with better WoW performance? It's true it's it can help but to be completely honest:
I've got a great processor.
I've got very decent DDR2 ram, 2gb of it.

and guess what? I also get bad FPS in high population areas.

It's because I only have 64bit shared graphics on my GFX card -_-"

I know that more effects how well WoW will perform on your machine.
I'm only running with 526 or whatever the lowest recommended is, so I think an upgrade in RAM would be the first thing I'd look for, at least up to 1GB.

[Wisher]

lawl@nub


blech at you!

[The Coder]

From what I hear, if you're running vista, it really slows down your machine, I know several people who have reverted back to XP after getting it. Nope, not tellin' ya to convert to linux, for once

[Jeffery]

why do people associate ram with better WoW performance? It's true it's it can help but to be completely honest:
I've got a great processor.
I've got very decent DDR2 ram, 2gb of it.

and guess what? I also get bad FPS in high population areas.

It's because I only have 64bit shared graphics on my GFX card -_-"


The FPS rate depends on your video ram more than your memory ram. If you have a system that used your memory ram for video, then get a new system.
If you are on a desktop, consider getting a better, more powerful, video card.


And Coder, part of that is because people try and play with minimal memory, whereas VISTA takes 512k memory up just for itself.

[booyaka619]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4TyqYsC26g
It insults world of warcraft classes but it's funny. :)
Watch it.

[The Coder]

The FPS rate depends on your video ram more than your memory ram. If you have a system that used your memory ram for video, then get a new system.
If you are on a desktop, consider getting a better, more powerful, video card.


And Coder, part of that is because people try and play with minimal memory, whereas VISTA takes 512k memory up just for itself.

Ah, thanks. Even then though, one of my friends said his speed seemed to double when he trashed vista for xp, and he's running on 2g.

[Wisher]

Me and another s1 hunter challenged a frost mage and a hunter on my server as a joke mostly, both with some s3 and 350resil+.


They won of course and were like amazed with them selves. Just thought i'd let you know..


I wonder how the sunwell raid will be :)

[Ignition]

The FPS rate depends on your video ram more than your memory ram. If you have a system that used your memory ram for video, then get a new system.
If you are on a desktop, consider getting a better, more powerful, video card.


And Coder, part of that is because people try and play with minimal memory, whereas VISTA takes 512k memory up just for itself.
Dude, I know.
I'm not a retard.

I was saying I have no video ram, and proving to them that having a lot of ram doesn't compensate (seeing as I have a decently large amount of it)

[spencer 555]

Dude, I know.
I'm not a retard.

I was saying I have no video ram, and proving to them that having a lot of ram doesn't compensate (seeing as I have a decently large amount of it)

He was only trying to be helpful bro, + he was talking to coder :P

[IPlayWoW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4TyqYsC26g
It insults world of warcraft classes but it's funny. :)
Watch it.

Dude, that video is awesome.
Seen it before you linked it, but I've always loved it :happy:

[The Coder]

I got screwed over while PvPing on my mage, ice block broke as soon as I casted it, and died a second later.

[Jeffery]

Dude, I know.
I'm not a retard.

I was saying I have no video ram, and proving to them that having a lot of ram doesn't compensate (seeing as I have a decently large amount of it)
Well, if you know you have crap video, why don;t you, I don;t know, maybe, kinda.....

Do something about it??

[Wizzy`]

http://www.circotech.com/regular-x-blade-pc-gaming-pre-mod-atx-medium-tower-case.html

My comp^^^^
I've got 3 GB of ram, new video card(No, I don't remember what one it is, when I do, i'll post it) A new sound card, and two hard drives. I've also got another computer hooked up to the internet this is on, and I get no lag. Ever.

[Wizzy`]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2WG-9wocwM

ahahahahahahahaha

[AlabamaBoy]

I <3 Kael Thas.

[booyaka619]

I hate ZF.... It sux0rz......

[AlabamaBoy]

>.>

Nah.

EDIT.

Rogue's on Detheroc silly.

[Ignition]

you dun have a rogue....

[Wizzy`]

>.>

Nah.

EDIT.

Rogue's on Detheroc silly.

lol
Why did you edit that you can solo somethin? Can you not solo it cause you ARE TEH SUX!?!?!??

[Spirit_Monger]

Starting a rogue alt to play while I don't want to play my warlock.

I'm pretty sure I want to pick up mining, but I don't know if I should get blacksmithing, jewelcrafting, or skinning/herbalism.
I already have skinning on my warlock, and I would probably rather get herb/alch on a tauren.
Leatherworking would work for armor but I don't feel like getting skinning again or having to level LW without skinning.
So if anyone has suggestions let me know. :p

[Wizzy`]

Herb/Alch is great...so much money. But there's also a lot of money in Mining/Blacksmith.
Idk what to tell you, because i'm a noob. But I like Herb/Alch

[The Coder]

The blacksmithing weapons = Teh hawtness at 70. And much easier to get, especially now that nethers are BoE.
But it's a waste of your money while you're leveling, only a few of the weapons you'll make are going to be better than the weapons you'll get from instances.

I'd go Mining/Skinning

[Spirit_Monger]

Nevermind.
Most likely will just go with Skinning/Leatherworking or Herb/Alch.

[The Coder]

I had my first wtfpwn on my mage.
I was in a duel with a rogue, spotted him coming at me. Frost nova'd, Frostbolt crit, Frostbolt Crit followed by Fire Blast crit.

[Wizzy`]

I had my first wtfpwn on my mage.
I was in a duel with a rogue, spotted him coming at me. Frost nova'd, Frostbolt crit, Frostbolt Crit followed by Fire Blast crit.

When I was 37 (I'm 38 now. :p) I went after a 40 Tauren druid..I freakin' pwnd him...Then my mana went out.

I then got pwnd.

[The Coder]

Lol.

I learned something new today. You're ghost can die.

[Wizzy`]

Lol.

I learned something new today. You're ghost can die.

Your* and yes, fatigue.

I tried to swim from Kalimidor to Eastern Kingdoms. I ALMOST got to the end of the map, but then my ghost kept dieing.

And btw, GM Island? Anyone know anything about this?

[The Coder]

Your* and yes, fatigue.

Yea, I wouldn't have expected that...

[Wizzy`]

Yea, I wouldn't have expected that...

You've never swam so far that fatigue bar comes up? O_o

[Volcom]

GM Island? Anyone know anything about this?

Cords.
Map 1
x 16238.291
y 16219.044
z 9.600

thats all im telling you, you can figure out the rest

[The Coder]

You've never swam so far that fatigue bar comes up? O_o

No, I always wanted to but I figured it'd just be a waste of my time.

Cords.
Map 1
x 16238.291
y 16219.044
z 9.600

thats all im telling you, you can figure out the rest

I thought accessing GM Isle is a bannable offense?

[Mine]

i was on it.
on a private.
GM ported me there.
its not that great >.>.

[FreddyAdu23]

Its a bannable offense to go to GM island, if you want to see it go to youtube and type GM island, its only supposed to good if ur a GM...

[Ignition]

Nevermind.
Most likely will just go with Skinning/Leatherworking or Herb/Alch.

WAIT WAIT WAIT
Mining/Engineering is the ULTIMATE farming combo at 70. Not to mention you can make the best DPS head slots in the game.

[IPlayWoW]

And btw, GM Island? Anyone know anything about this?

Yes, it's accessible via swimming from steemwheedle port in Tanaris.
You ought to have a shaman with you for water walking though ;)
Also a hunter for aspect of the pack is useful too, saves some time running.

WAIT WAIT WAIT
Mining/Engineering is the ULTIMATE farming combo at 70. Not to mention you can make the best DPS head slots in the game.

Not true. I have it on my blood elf. Or did have mining anyway. The goggles are only T5 quality also. Helms from BT/MH are far better. Unless of course you get the schems from SWP for the tier 2 goggles which are better than tier 6.

[Ignition]

Not true. I have it on my blood elf. Or did have mining anyway. The goggles are only T5 quality also. Helms from BT/MH are far better. Unless of course you get the schems from SWP for the tier 2 goggles which are better than tier 6.
What do you think I was talking about fool?
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34354

[The Coder]

Yes, it's accessible via swimming from steemwheedle port in Tanaris.
You ought to have a shaman with you for water walking though ;)
Also a hunter for aspect of the pack is useful too, saves some time running.
[/QUOTE]

Mount + Water Walking = Fun.
I'd think you'de need your epic though

Not true. I have it on my blood elf. Or did have mining anyway. The goggles are only T5 quality also. Helms from BT/MH are far better. Unless of course you get the schems from SWP for the tier 2 goggles which are better than tier 6.

Yup. Best headgear in game aren't engineer, but rather drops. I think that gear made with professions should be better than the epik drops, but not as good as the legendary drops (Obviously)

[Kyir]

Mount + Water Walking = Fun.
I'd think you'de need your epic though


You can't anymore.

HAHAHA.

Ha.

[The Coder]

You can't anymore.

HAHAHA.

Ha.

Damn, that sucks

[Kyir]

Damn, that sucks

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/080324.jpg

[Madars]

Wow sucks nutz... :bigsmile:

[Kyir]

Wow sucks nutz... :bigsmile:

When mocking something, you should try to appear above the level of a third grade dropout.

[Madars]

When mocking something, you should try to appear above the level of a third grade dropout.
What if i failed 1st grade twice?

[The Coder]

What if i failed 1st grade twice?

Fake your way through.