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zz99

03-31-2008, 12:04 PM

This be me. I'd be level 70 by now, but 3 months ago I spilled pop on the laptop that had WoW on hit, and lucky me, it completely ruined my keyboard. But god forbid it be easy enough to just use a wireless keyboard, if I turn on my laptop, the keyboard freaks out and doesn't let you do anything. So it's getting fixed right now, and the computer I'm on now isn't "good enough" for Wow apparently. Anyways, this is me -

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5281/aohjv5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It says last updated december 27th, that's when I spilled pop on it. =/

BTW, I don't seem to have luck with computers/games.

I bought the Wii for practically one reason - SSBB, I kept waiting for it to come out, and it kept on getting pushed back, then, finally they announced it WOULD come out on March 9th, then, on March 7th, an ex-friend of mine(who dropped out of highschool) broke into my house while I was at school and stole my Wii. It was literally two days before SSBB came out, I was so pissed.

Megabyte

03-31-2008, 01:18 PM

You really suck at blocking out your char name, angleofhell on the Aerie Peak server. If you want to stop people from knowing your char name and where you play, don't give the link to your char profile and all your guild mates in it.

zz99

03-31-2008, 01:40 PM

Oh well.

I don't care that people know who I am, I just would have preferred if they didn't.

IPlayWoW

03-31-2008, 03:35 PM

hay 1g pl0x

The Coder

03-31-2008, 06:45 PM

plz i need moneyz 4 crusadur cud u give me sum?

Also, zz, why the hell would you try leveling daggers? Daggers are fail for leveling, you get very few opportunities for back hits.

zz99

03-31-2008, 07:12 PM

plz i need moneyz 4 crusadur cud u give me sum?

Also, zz, why the hell would you try leveling daggers? Daggers are fail for leveling, you get very few opportunities for back hits.

If you noticed, I use swords now, I used daggers when I was a sub rogue. =P

EDIT: My off hand weapon is a dagger, but I only use it over a sword because it gives me +18 attack power, +9 agility, and +14 stamina.

It also does about 50 dps, for a dagger, it's pretty good.

IPlayWoW

03-31-2008, 07:17 PM

zz99

03-31-2008, 07:23 PM

Look, go respec, put 5 in lethality or whatever its called, forgot... the one in assassination for 5% crit, then 5 in MoD in sub. The rest in combat and dont choose any sort of wep spec. That's the best way to level as a rogue.

Once 70, spec combat swords and get the noskill pvp swords... good starter for any rogue who doesn't raid/starting raids.

Just my 2 cents, ignore me if you want though ;)

Read my post, I said my laptop with WoW on it is getting fixed, and my current one doesn't have good enough RAM to play WoW.

I'll think about it when I get my computer back though.

EDIT: Last time I was on though, I remember being dirt poor, I have no where near the money need to buy my epic mount. =/

IPlayWoW

03-31-2008, 07:42 PM

Aye I know about the computer thing, I meant mainly for when you get it back if you decide to play again :p

spencer 555

03-31-2008, 08:49 PM

All my macros and addons got deleted in 2.4 :(

/wrists

The Coder

03-31-2008, 08:56 PM

No they didn't, but I'd advise you update all combat log based ones.

Spirit_Monger

03-31-2008, 09:08 PM

If you deleted your WTF folder like Blizzard had suggested in game then they would have.
Otherwise Coder is right, and they shouldn't be gone.

IPlayWoW

03-31-2008, 09:15 PM

Ehm... Character Screen --> Add ons --> Load out of date add ons --> Ok

kk?

Volcom

04-01-2008, 05:40 AM

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/moltencore/
Looks Awsome ! cant wait

spencer 555

04-01-2008, 07:27 AM

Ehm... Character Screen --> Add ons --> Load out of date add ons --> Ok

kk?

If only it were that simple... my comp is being difficult, reinstalling wow because my macro/interface folder refuses to cooperate. Also.. why would I say they got DELETED if I could just load them -.- ugh.

No they didn't, but I'd advise you update all combat log based ones.

Yes they did :)

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/moltencore/
Looks Awsome ! cant wait

zomg

Megabyte

04-01-2008, 10:36 AM

gotta give blizz credit for putting some effort into their foo's day pranks

but the bard page is much cooler...

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/features/bard/bardclass.xml

This one goes to eleven.

Ignition

04-01-2008, 12:05 PM

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/moltencore/
Looks Awsome ! cant wait

gotta give blizz credit for putting some effort into their foo's day pranks

but the bard page is much cooler...

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/features/bard/bardclass.xml

OMG I love blizzard....

IPlayWoW

04-01-2008, 05:24 PM

Now if only they made the bard class actually real, my 2 fave games rolled into one :rolleyes:

The Coder

04-01-2008, 05:36 PM

What? They combined hello kitty island adventures AND wow into 1?

Oh wait your favourite...

IPlayWoW

04-01-2008, 07:32 PM

Hilarious.

The Coder

04-01-2008, 08:03 PM

When I first visited wowhead today I was like...

Wait... Somethings wrong here...

Oh right april fools.

IPlayWoW

04-01-2008, 08:24 PM

Again, hilarious.

Nice fails :)

Megabyte

04-02-2008, 11:34 AM

something I actually didn't catch yesterday...

http://www.starcraft2.com/features/terran/taurenmarine.xml

Ignition

04-02-2008, 03:01 PM

oh those silly blizzard, they give me the lolz

Wizzy`

04-02-2008, 03:08 PM

The tournament servers are so sick..

IPlayWoW

04-02-2008, 03:18 PM

Lol, better when you got full S3 geared 2k+ rating arena chars on retail ;)

Wisher

04-02-2008, 04:27 PM

Damnn i hate holy pallies and resto druids in 2v2. They never die -.-

The Coder

04-02-2008, 08:44 PM

Pillar humping are teh failz

IPlayWoW

04-03-2008, 10:01 AM

Damnn i hate holy pallies and resto druids in 2v2. They never die -.-

You're just jealous of our imbaness :)
Nothing beats a 10k hp 11k mana 18k armor healer with 9 lives.
Though feral tank druids in bearform have ridiculous armor, we once managed to buff one to 42k armor. Nerf :dry:

Spliff

04-03-2008, 01:45 PM

woot just downed archimonde today and got my first piece of t6

AlabamaBoy

04-03-2008, 07:34 PM

I like resto shammy in pvp.

>.>

Outlast.

IPlayWoW

04-03-2008, 08:36 PM

woot just downed archimonde today and got my first piece of t6

Screeny or it didn't happen.
And if you can't provide a screeny then you're obviously lying, because every guild that gets a first killshot takes a killshot screeny.
kk?

Megabyte

04-03-2008, 08:42 PM

Or he doesn't give a damn what you have to say about his playing. Wasting a minute to upload and post a screenie for your benefit is hardly worth it. He could look up a webcomic in that time.

Though feral tank druids in bearform have ridiculous armor, we once managed to buff one to 42k armor. Nerf :dry:

Not to mention 18k hp

Nothing is more disheartening than seeing a mage crit 6k on a one...and his life only goes down a third.

Wisher

04-03-2008, 09:44 PM

sl/sl locks with felhunter need a nerf imo. Them with a healer=never dead with their 14k+health :[

The Coder

04-03-2008, 10:32 PM

sl/sl locks with felhunter need a nerf imo. Them with a healer=never dead with their 14k+health :[

Unless you = Rogue :p

Felpuppy is OP. We all know it

AlabamaBoy

04-03-2008, 10:53 PM

Zahdrom and I like to kill people.

^_^ Isn't he the cutest?

http://www.playthingofthegods.com/DianiusPetsGuide/GuardianFelhunter.jpg

IPlayWoW

04-04-2008, 08:01 AM

Not to mention 18k hp

18k hp? Heh, he had 19.2k unbuffed, in bear that is.
A shame he went resto, was the most insane druid tank.

zz99

04-04-2008, 10:52 AM

Unless you = Rogue :p

Felpuppy is OP. We all know it

Hmm, this may sound noobish, especially for a lvl 61 but how in hell does a rogue beat a lock? I could beat about anything but a lock. I mean, this is a standfard fight for me and a lock -

I'm combat btw so

I creep up and use cheap shot, quickly use adrenaline rush, blade furry, and evasion(the keys for me are right next to each other, so I use them in every fight), then I use sinister strike, and IF I'm lucky, I'll get a nicely timed kick on the lock so he can't use fear, but then he uses deathcoil, then I use insignia of the alliance to cancel deathcoil, and I can get back in time to do some more damage, but not enough to kill the lock, then he uses fear again, and by the time I can get back to him, I'm about dead.

Ignition

04-04-2008, 10:52 AM

Zahdrom and I like to kill people.

^_^ Isn't he the cutest?

http://www.playthingofthegods.com/DianiusPetsGuide/GuardianFelhunter.jpg

Those are only good for PvP aren't they?
Kind of a shame really... /cast turn evil

Spirit_Monger

04-04-2008, 01:44 PM

Hmm, this may sound noobish, especially for a lvl 61 but how in hell does a rogue beat a lock? I could beat about anything but a lock. I mean, this is a standfard fight for me and a lock -

I'm combat btw so

I creep up and use cheap shot, quickly use adrenaline rush, blade furry, and evasion(the keys for me are right next to each other, so I use them in every fight), then I use sinister strike, and IF I'm lucky, I'll get a nicely timed kick on the lock so he can't use fear, but then he uses deathcoil, then I use insignia of the alliance to cancel deathcoil, and I can get back in time to do some more damage, but not enough to kill the lock, then he uses fear again, and by the time I can get back to him, I'm about dead.

If the lock is very well geared and you aren't, that will play a part.

You need to get the jump on him for sure. Do as much damage as possible and very quickly, and keep him stunned for as long as possible.
When he casts fear or any other type of shadow spell, use kick then, and he wont have much to cast for at least a few seconds.

IPlayWoW

04-04-2008, 01:49 PM

1 word. Stunlock. Stay behind the lock while doing this too for backstabs (if you're a dagger nub anyway).
And save the silences for exactly the right time.
Yes, it is very hard for any melee, except ret pallys, to beat a lock. So yeah, all it takes is a little practice. Resilience plays a big part in end game pvp too ;)

Wisher

04-04-2008, 02:56 PM

If pallies get interrupt, it sucks. I think it's every single spell that they can't use for however long interrupt is -.-

The Coder

04-04-2008, 03:03 PM

Hmm, this may sound noobish, especially for a lvl 61 but how in hell does a rogue beat a lock? I could beat about anything but a lock. I mean, this is a standfard fight for me and a lock -

I'm combat btw so

I creep up and use cheap shot, quickly use adrenaline rush, blade furry, and evasion(the keys for me are right next to each other, so I use them in every fight), then I use sinister strike, and IF I'm lucky, I'll get a nicely timed kick on the lock so he can't use fear, but then he uses deathcoil, then I use insignia of the alliance to cancel deathcoil, and I can get back in time to do some more damage, but not enough to kill the lock, then he uses fear again, and by the time I can get back to him, I'm about dead.

1. Cloak of Shadows when you get it.
2. Psst: Kick has a lockout
3. By the time you've trinketed death coil, they've feared you. Wait till they fear you then trinket

IPlayWoW

04-04-2008, 03:09 PM

The Coder

04-04-2008, 03:14 PM

Yeah, pallys are all 1 spell school, which is holy. Every single spell they have is that same school. Therefore when pallys get silenced while casting, they are damn near dead if they dont have full plate and much hp.

Yea, you guys are in as much trouble as we are when locked out. And lucky you, you've got plate.

IPlayWoW

04-04-2008, 03:20 PM

Yeah well, we may have plate AND shields, not to mention bubble but at the same time, we are very easily killable for casters. Melee we just laugh at, but a mage who knows how to use CS and has high damage, they screw us over. Then locks who know how to balance fears with max time on them so that DR doesn't come into play hurt aswell. Also, if they hit us with UA in between dots, we are screwed cos if we cleanse UA by accident, we take 1500+ damage and get 4 sec silence. Kinda bad. But it's the same with all high armor classes, no defence vs casters. Shadow priests I won't even mention with their cheap ass mass dispel on divine shield.

The Coder

04-04-2008, 03:23 PM

Spriests do have their share of issues. 1. Reasonable Smart Hunter > Insane priest. 2. Their defense against casting delay is dispellable. 3. No poison dispel. 4. High mana cost of mass dispel

Spirit_Monger

04-04-2008, 03:40 PM

1. Cloak of Shadows when you get it.
2. Psst: Kick has a lockout
3. By the time you've trinketed death coil, they've feared you. Wait till they fear you then trinket

Yeah.

Use Cloak of Shadows when the lock has the majority of their DoTs on you already.
Don't trinket out of Death coil. It's like, 3 seconds, compared to a 10 second fear.

IPlayWoW

04-04-2008, 04:10 PM

Spriests do have their share of issues. 1. Reasonable Smart Hunter > Insane priest. 2. Their defense against casting delay is dispellable. 3. No poison dispel. 4. High mana cost of mass dispel

Yeah the only thing spriests are actually any good against are healadins and umm, thats it.

The Coder

04-04-2008, 04:39 PM

Yeah the only thing spriests are actually any good against are healadins and umm, thats it.

Yea, someone in the priest forums asked how good were spriests, wanted to know whether or not to roll one. I responded with "Even enhancement shaman can beat us"

zz99

04-04-2008, 07:56 PM

The Coder

04-04-2008, 09:03 PM

Spirit_Monger

04-04-2008, 09:42 PM

So basically, to beat a lock just about everything has to be perfectly timed, and it has to go right.

I think Locks need to be nerfed. =/

Or at least give a rogue a chance, I mean, unless you're prepared, you just stand no chance.

And if any of you moves are on cooldown, you're screwed.

If you are losing to a lock that much, I think it's more than likely something wrong with the player, not the class, sorry.
Most locks aren't THAT good where they will be able to beat you all the time like that, especially when the majority of the time you should be getting them jump on them.

zz99

04-05-2008, 12:00 AM

If you are losing to a lock that much, I think it's more than likely something wrong with the player, not the class, sorry.
Most locks aren't THAT good where they will be able to beat you all the time like that, especially when the majority of the time you should be getting them jump on them.

Yeah, you get the jump on them, and as soon as they get the chance, deathcoil and fear.

If you don't have insignia of the alliance, your chances of winning are very very slim, and even with them they're small.

Anyways, I was just looking to see if there was any more sure way of fighting locks. Everything else I can beat.

The only other class that even remotely gives me problems is shamans, and that's mostly just in duels when they have the chance to set up and prepare.

Ignition

04-05-2008, 10:22 AM

Hey guys, I've got an important question for those of you good at calculating stuff:
I realize that Haste was nerfed but I'd still like to know what 181 haste rating would reduce a 3.7 attack speed down to.

The Coder

04-05-2008, 06:12 PM

3.317s

Wisher

04-05-2008, 06:14 PM

What's the best class/spec to be with in 2v2?

I'm a hunter so need to know what would work good w/ me

IPlayWoW

04-05-2008, 07:23 PM

3.317s

He speaks truth.
And if you have that much haste as a retadin, you're a full fledged idiot. Sorry.

Spirit_Monger

04-06-2008, 01:46 AM

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4558/wowscrnshot040508003326lx3.jpg

Kinda trying to work on a new UI. Any tips/comments?

Spells aren't ordered in any way yet.

I like the look of the addons, but I'll have to see how my performance is with them all installed. Might slow it down some.
Default UI never bothered me so I could go back.

Ignition

04-06-2008, 12:25 PM

3.317s
o_O
Are you sure thats right?
how the hell does my 18 haste ring take my Hammer of the naruu from 3.6 to an affective 3.5 then? I'd think a few hundrd haste would do more then that...
He speaks truth.
And if you have that much haste as a retadin, you're a full fledged idiot. Sorry.
well I'm not going to now...
I thought I could get something at last like 2.5ish

Wold you guys suggest armor penetration then?

Wisher

04-06-2008, 02:24 PM

Did my first gruuls last night woot. Was pretty fun but i lost t4 shoulder drop by 7 :(

The Coder

04-06-2008, 02:58 PM

o_O
Are you sure thats right?
how the hell does my 18 haste ring take my Hammer of the naruu from 3.6 to an affective 3.5 then? I'd think a few hundrd haste would do more then that...

well I'm not going to now...
I thought I could get something at last like 2.5ish

Wold you guys suggest armor penetration then?

Speed/(1+HasteRating/15.7/100) = New Speed

Also, I didn't know that ZA was populated by furries.

AND I FINALLY GOT THE CAP'N PLANET UI!
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8586-CaptainPlanetUICompilation.html

IPlayWoW

04-06-2008, 08:45 PM

Guild I'm now in on my belf achieved some insane progress. Best I've ever seen.

Leotheras the Blind, Vashj, Kael'thas and Rage Winterchill all in 5 hours. Most went down within 3 attempts on first night tries. Rage in 1, pfft, some Hyjal boss.

Btw, about ret pallys, you don't want a weapon faster than 3.60. Go for armor ignore over haste. Though with the new 2.4 loot, and ret pallys, it's not very easy to avoid high +haste gear seeing as the perfect ret gear is dps warrior gear.

Wisher

04-06-2008, 09:08 PM

my friends ele shaman is 68. Anyone know the best way to spec 40/0/21?

AlabamaBoy

04-06-2008, 11:44 PM

Yeah.

Elemental stuff first.

spencer 555

04-07-2008, 11:34 AM

wisher, hunters are best with resto druids in 2v2

http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=58495

on a side note...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YJWeWMKfa3g

I lol'd this is so tru :)

Ignition

04-07-2008, 12:44 PM

Okay guys, Keep in mind I raid as a DPS pally. However I do also enjoy having an offspec prot set.

BSing: Master Axe, or Sword?
(The axes are better deeps but would it be worth it to get the 3rd tier swords for tanking...)

IPlayWoW

04-07-2008, 06:20 PM

Wizzy`

04-07-2008, 06:22 PM

endless

04-07-2008, 06:36 PM

I made a mage ..... and i have liek 200 health.

No worries, you wont get much higher than that. :)

Wizzy`

04-07-2008, 06:41 PM

No worries, you wont get much higher than that. :)

>_<

booyaka619

04-07-2008, 08:51 PM

I'm only a 47 hunter, but here is my character.

My Character: http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/1480/mywowdudemi1.png

Ignition

04-08-2008, 12:59 PM

Well, I know what I'd choose being a raiding retadin myself.

Go for master axesmith for the bloodmoon.

Also having blazefury for tanking as a pally is a bad idea. You'd want a caster wep. The best one pre BT/MH for a tankadin is the Amani Punisher from ZA and smack that up with +40 spell damage. Every prot pally wants at least 500 spell dmg by BT/MH. If you can't get the Amani Punisher, you ought to get exalted with Thrallmar (as I know you're a belf) for the Stormcaller. Or, buy Crystalforged Sword from AH. That's probably the best tankadin wep before Amani Punisher. High stam, spell hit and spell dmg with a lil bit of intellect on it.

Tankadins need more stats than prot wars. Spell damage, spell hit, hp, defense, block and dodge. Any parry bonuses are just that, a bonus. But far from mandatory. Any mp5 you can get your hands on is also good.
Yeah, I was pretty bent on getting a bloodmoon for quite a while... then I started to work on my prot set and 2nd guessed my decision. I'll probably still be going with it seeing as I already have all the mats for it banked xD

As far as spelldmg, I knew I was right. I had a few guildies saying that +spell/hit was pointless.
Consicration = threat
Coinsicration = spell
:. more consecration = more threat.

Wizzy`

04-08-2008, 01:05 PM

I'm only a 47 hunter, but here is my character.

My Character: http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/1480/mywowdudemi1.png

*lolz*

Wisher

04-08-2008, 03:01 PM

I made a mage on Warsong..Name is Kitvul

He's pretty good. Got full green gear except bracers, i have like 800 stamina..and liek 200 health. But my guild that my brother is in can enchant so WTFPWNMAGE.

do you mean 800 mana and 200 health ?
I'm only a 47 hunter, but here is my character.

My Character: http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/1480/mywowdudemi1.png

fiery and icy ftw :]

Wizzy`

04-08-2008, 03:06 PM

do you mean 800 mana and 200 health ?

fiery and icy ftw :]

Mana..stamina..whatever. Stamina should be the world used instead of mana. That's retarded. Everyone else knew what I was talking about, you just had to be an idiot

Wisher

04-08-2008, 03:13 PM

ok i am retarded i guess ?

was just wondering if you knew what mana was sheesh -_-

S3RO

04-08-2008, 05:03 PM

My main is Secero, my lvl 29 twink is Mishkar. Add me if you wish.

Ignition

04-09-2008, 01:10 AM

Yeah so, think I'm ready to drop mining for black smithing yet guys?

lawlz
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/Kyl02/Picture2-1.png
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/Kyl02/Picture3.png

gawd, how do you like my main's bag? like 30 bag spots free... stupid off specs "hey pally can you off tank for a sec". "hey pally can you off heal for a sec" /wrists
P.S. I've got about 1000 adamantite (50) stack coming to meh so pffft. Oh and the plans on the lower half of my bank are all going to be sold for big goldzors

AlabamaBoy

04-09-2008, 01:15 AM

No.

If I were you.... I'd grab about 36 primal might and continue farming while you get it's mats.

Volcom

04-09-2008, 08:16 AM

why have you got crappy Gray Swords & trousers in you bags ?

Ignition

04-09-2008, 09:34 AM

For my outfitter mod
pants = 'birthday suit' (thong looking pants)
board/sword = 'tank set' (only place holders until I farm some more rep)

You think I'll need that many primal might?

endless

04-09-2008, 10:03 AM

No.
Life.
At.
All.

Megabyte

04-09-2008, 01:26 PM

No.
Life.
At.
All.

Yeah, people who have fun at stuff really need to get a life. Everyone knows that.

Wizzy`

04-09-2008, 01:45 PM

Yeah, people who have fun at stuff really need to get a life. Everyone knows that.

Wow, for once..Megabyte didn't anger me in posting.

endless

04-09-2008, 02:07 PM

Yeah, people who have fun at stuff really need to get a life. Everyone knows that.

Thats the biggest bullshit comment ive ever read.

How is having a life not fun? How is playing a game for hours on end and then bragging to an online community, fun?

WoW is fun, not a life style.

IPlayWoW

04-09-2008, 10:22 PM

Not everyone who plays wow for a few hours a day is a no lifer.
Not everyone who has an extremely well geared character and any alts is a no lifer.
Not everyone who is good at a game is a no lifer.
Not everyone who knows stuff about a game is a no lifer.
Not everyone who plays WoW and finds it entertaining is a no lifer.

Really frustrating with all you morons who call WoW players no lifers just cos we enjoy a damn game. If it was some popular sports game on Xbox or some shit you wouldn't call them a no lifer.

Get a better insult that actually makes sense and affects that person themself, not a stereotype.

Ignoramus. Gtfo, kk?

EDIT: OH and Ignition, yeah you might want extra primal mights for some crafted epic stuff you may get patterns for that are non 375 skill requirement as they usually require mights if it's a melee dps item. Such as a BoE dagger like Dirge or something. Can also use those to get skill points up by crafting etc and selling them on AH.

Ignition

04-10-2008, 07:39 AM

Yeah Ryan, I agree with him. I've got a life, I only really play after supper. I hang out with friends, go to college every day as a full time student, even go to work at a part time job when I'm not super stressed out from class.
I are not a no lifer.

yeah, Iplay. I've got a good number of 365 plans, only one requires mights and I'm trying to sell it.

endless

04-10-2008, 10:20 AM

Wow, the original post that started this was a joke, but now you guys have taken this to another level.

Not everyone who plays wow for a few hours a day is a no lifer.
Not everyone who has an extremely well geared character and any alts is a no lifer.
Not everyone who is good at a game is a no lifer.
Not everyone who knows stuff about a game is a no lifer.
Not everyone who plays WoW and finds it entertaining is a no lifer.

Really frustrating with all you morons who call WoW players no lifers just cos we enjoy a damn game. If it was some popular sports game on Xbox or some shit you wouldn't call them a no lifer.

Get a better insult that actually makes sense and affects that person themself, not a stereotype.

Ignoramus. Gtfo, kk?

First off, what the hell is a "lifer"? Second of all, ill say to anyone who spends that much time on a video game, be it WoW or Cod on xbox, has no life. Yes i agree WoW is fun, its my main source of entrainment. But i have a job, which requires me not to be playing. Plus i occasionally enjoy spending time with friends and hell, even going on vacation every weekend.

Im not saying anyone here doesn't have a life, that was never my intention. I was making fun of ignition ( kyle ) because he happens to be a food friend of mine. But kyle also doesn't have a job. Hes a college student who can spend at least a few hours on WoW a day. Hints why i feel he has no life. ( jokingly )

Yeah Ryan, I agree with him. I've got a life, I only really play after supper. I hang out with friends, go to college every day as a full time student, even go to work at a part time job when I'm not super stressed out from class.
I are not a no lifer.

Quit it, i know how fast you leveled to 70, so don't give me that crap.

Ignition

04-10-2008, 10:23 AM

Quit it, i know how fast you leveled to 70, so don't give me that crap.
¬ ¬
I was jus' messin' too buddy <3

I ARE T3H FOOD FRIEND!

Megabyte

04-10-2008, 02:16 PM

Wow, the original post that started this was a joke,

albeit a poorly written one

The Coder

04-11-2008, 03:09 PM

I was leveling a hunter on a PvP server. And this druid kept trying to sneak up on me and gank me. The problem? He had hunters mark on him.

Ignition

04-11-2008, 04:09 PM

yeah, PvP is where I play. I generally left those silly alliance bastards alone unless they made the first move. I was too busy with strait up leveling.

booyaka619

04-11-2008, 05:19 PM

<3 Noggenfogger elixir.

IPlayWoW

04-11-2008, 05:20 PM

The Coder

04-11-2008, 08:48 PM

PvP realms, ugh, I hate trying to level on those... To many morons thinking they are cool who try to gank you then fail. Then they keep trying hence slowing your leveling down. Really annoying. But other than the leveling issue, PvP realms are so much more fun.

Sad part is when either A: They try to gank me in neutral cities or B: After killing me and trying to camp me, they position themselves in terribad places to kill me again; for example, I was headed north through a choke point in the road, and rather than standing to the north of the point, they stood south.

bloodreign

04-11-2008, 09:07 PM

Gadgetzan must be a killer to try to play in pvp server.

I'm to much of a wuss to play pvp for now. maybe latorz.

The Coder

04-11-2008, 09:26 PM

Gadgetzan must be a killer to try to play in pvp server.

I'm to much of a wuss to play pvp for now. maybe latorz.

No, it's really hilarious, they get a hit off on me and then are mauled by guards.

AlabamaBoy

04-11-2008, 10:11 PM

I killed a 70 warrior on my 50 lock today.

...

Took like three tries.

He was in PvE kara shit.

booyaka619

04-11-2008, 10:16 PM

The only realms I play in are PvP :cool:

Wisher

04-11-2008, 10:20 PM

Same pvp is the most fun. pugging kara is not

booyaka619

04-11-2008, 10:22 PM

I love WSG. I'm a lvl 47 and last one I did I capped all three times :eek:. Also never died :cool:

FreddyAdu23

04-12-2008, 08:34 AM

PvP > Raid instances > heroics > normal instances > Outland questing > normal questing

IPlayWoW

04-12-2008, 10:34 AM

That depends on what your play style is and what you enjoy.

In my opinion...

Raids > Arena > Heroics

That's it... screw normal instances and screw questing.

I killed a 70 warrior on my 50 lock today.

...

Took like three tries.

He was in PvE kara shit.

And I bet he was prot, in other words, not hard to do.
If he was arms or fury, then he was either really crap or afk ;)

AlabamaBoy

04-12-2008, 01:49 PM

He was crap.

He wasted deathwish, so I soul stoned and deathcoil/feared and dotted him.

Curse of exhaustion was a real life saver.

The Coder

04-12-2008, 05:46 PM

He must have been moar than that. He's pure epik fail.

Spirit_Monger

04-12-2008, 07:10 PM

Finally hit 58 so I can do Outland now.
Those of you who have done it, would Affliction/Demo, Affliction/Destro, or Demo/Affliction work best?
Or something close to any of these 4 builds?

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVzriRfzqtbocxczIb
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVzriRfzqtboZxx0tr
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVzrmRZ0gczIizzest
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IV0oZ0gczIizzestxx0z

Wisher

04-12-2008, 07:33 PM

Most PVE Locks pick one tree or the other or go demonic sacrafice/destro build.

PVP locks usually go SL/SL (Siphon life/soul link)

My 65 lock is 9/41/gonna be 11

Wizzy`

04-12-2008, 07:37 PM

I hit 48 today. :)

Spirit_Monger

04-12-2008, 07:51 PM

Most PVE Locks pick one tree or the other or go demonic sacrafice/destro build.

PVP locks usually go SL/SL (Siphon life/soul link)

My 65 lock is 9/41/gonna be 11

I know.
I'm just not sure if I should stick with Affliction or go Demo (at least mostly those) for Outland right now, at level 58. :p

The Coder

04-12-2008, 08:06 PM

I know.
I'm just not sure if I should stick with Affliction or go Demo (at least mostly those) for Outland right now, at level 58. :p

Demonology.

Felguard > Unstable Affliction. Edit: Felguard > Affliction Tree.

Spirit_Monger

04-12-2008, 08:50 PM

Also.

When you hit 70, can you still get quests (other than dailies), or are you stuck with only being able to complete the ones you have now?

The Coder

04-12-2008, 09:25 PM

Also.

When you hit 70, can you still get quests (other than dailies), or are you stuck with only being able to complete the ones you have now?

Get more quests. And your old quests will have an EXP - Gold conversion at the rate of .0006 exp / g.

xerent

04-12-2008, 10:06 PM

Felguard > Affliction Tree.

Sorry. Only locks that think that way are the ones that need the big scary demon to make up for other inadequacies.

AlabamaBoy

04-12-2008, 10:55 PM

I prefer 42/19/0

One point in Shadow Embrace to increase damage done by drain life.

booyaka619

04-12-2008, 11:07 PM

I hit 48 today. :)

Me 2! :p

Spirit_Monger

04-12-2008, 11:12 PM

Get more quests. And your old quests will have an EXP - Gold conversion at the rate of .0006 exp / g.

Thanks again.

I prefer 42/19/0

One point in Shadow Embrace to increase damage done by drain life.

Shadow Embrace only reduces damage, 1% for each point spent in it.

I haven't been a huge fun of the end UA so I might like Felguard more. Will have to still try both though.

The Coder

04-12-2008, 11:31 PM

Sorry. Only locks that think that way are the ones that need the big scary demon to make up for other inadequacies.

Raiding Affliction > Demonology.

Leveling though, Felguard > Affliction tree.

AlabamaBoy

04-13-2008, 01:17 AM

Have two points in Soul Siphon and one point in Shadow Embrace increases damage of Drain Life.

:-P

/win

Spirit_Monger

04-13-2008, 06:53 PM

Getting killed in Outland even with the Felguard.
Usually end up pulling more than 1 mob at once since they are all so close together.
I'm hoping it's just because I'm still a few levels below the NPC's.

The Coder

04-13-2008, 06:55 PM

Usually felguard can tank more than one, with cleave and all that.

FreddyAdu23

04-13-2008, 07:31 PM

my priest is lvl 69 now =)

and i just ran slabs on it, we owned

AlabamaBoy

04-13-2008, 07:41 PM

I can handle three mobs 3-4 levels higher than me on my 42/1/0 lock.

You're OP!

Use what God(Blizzard) gave you.

The Coder

04-13-2008, 07:47 PM

my priest is lvl 69 now =)

and i just ran slabs on it, we owned

Shadow or Holy?

I can handle three mobs 3-4 levels higher than me on my 42/1/0 lock.

You're OP!

Use what God(Blizzard) gave you.

Pfft, I've done 4v1s on rogues and shammys.

***Duo***

04-13-2008, 07:50 PM

I still think Vanguard is more fun.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7066/screenshot00276editjf2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

-Duo

Spirit_Monger

04-13-2008, 07:51 PM

Yeah, I can take more than one, but 3-4, depending on high much higher they are is really pushing it, and I'll probably die.

Maybe because I'm still in mostly items before I hit Outland, some from the level 30's since I got tired of running instances and just leveled.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kel%27Thuzad&n=Mordechi

Megabyte

04-13-2008, 08:23 PM

Pfft, I've done 4v1s on rogues and shammys.

Record holders are protadins, they can do 10v1 (yellow level mobs) fights without needing to rest after.

AlabamaBoy

04-13-2008, 08:24 PM

Not four levels higher than you coder.

booyaka619

04-13-2008, 08:59 PM

Have any of you aver went on youtube and looked up runescape vs. world of warcraft? Some are really funny. :)

Wisher

04-13-2008, 09:08 PM

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Stonemaul&n=Gamah

That's my 65 lock.

Spirit i think you should try my build, it's worked very well so far for me levelin.

The Coder

04-13-2008, 10:02 PM

IPlayWoW

04-14-2008, 07:58 AM

PvP gear is epic fail, not epic gear.
In other words, welfare epics.
But mega, you say tankadins can take 10 or so yellow level mobs, without resting. Not true, you generally need to drink after that many, which gets hp back aswell. Therefore, it's still a rest ;)

Ignition

04-14-2008, 10:36 AM

Layonhands!

Megabyte

04-14-2008, 01:53 PM

But mega, you say tankadins can take 10 or so yellow level mobs, without resting. Not true, you generally need to drink after that many, which gets hp back aswell. Therefore, it's still a rest ;)

Generally for some, never for others. Just depends on the skill of user with the technique.

Any tankadin leveling can attest to the multimob fighting style, and the lack of need for resting. You can avoid drinking entirely if you simply don't spam consecrate and properly use your seals. Just finding that fine point of optimum efficiency on damage vs mana use.

Wizzy`

04-14-2008, 04:26 PM

I just farted, and to tell you the truth.

It smelled kind of like WoW.

endless

04-14-2008, 05:19 PM

Best druid build?

Anyone?

0/30/31?
0/47/14?
0/1/60?

Feral or Resto?1 Help me decide!

FreddyAdu23

04-14-2008, 06:40 PM

Best druid build?

Anyone?

0/30/31?
0/47/14?
0/1/60?

Feral or Resto?1 Help me decide!
Depends what you want to do. If you have to heal, then go resto, is you want to tank go feral, if you want to dps go feral or balance, if you want honor fast i'd go resto, if you want to hav efun in bgs i'd go feral.

All depends on waht you want to do

And my priest is shadow

endless

04-14-2008, 07:03 PM

Lets say i stay feral, Whats the best feral build for raiding?

spencer 555

04-14-2008, 07:23 PM

Demon for lvling / undergeared BGs/ 5s arena

slsl for arena 2v2/3v3

afflic/destro for undergeared raiding

destro/demon for when u get like 20% crit and hit capped

The Coder

04-14-2008, 07:39 PM

Demon for lvling / undergeared BGs/ 5s arena

slsl for arena 2v2/3v3

afflic/destro for undergeared raiding

destro/demon for when u get like 20% crit and hit capped

Wrong.

Affliction until you're 30% crit.
Destruction at 30% crit.

Ignition

04-14-2008, 10:05 PM

Best druid build?

Anyone?

0/30/31?
0/47/14?
0/1/60?

Feral or Resto?1 Help me decide!
Go resto
Lets say i stay feral, Whats the best feral build for raiding?

Nah, if you always want a raid spot, and easy runs in 5mans go resto.

The Coder

04-14-2008, 10:46 PM

Actually, on my server, we've got an abundance of healers, and tanks have a much easier spot in raids.

spencer 555

04-14-2008, 11:34 PM

Wrong.

Affliction until you're 30% crit.
Destruction at 30% crit.

Link me the armory of a destro lock unbuffed with 30% crit and Ill be very surprised.

Destro is better for overall raid dps at 20% including trash and all that. Afflic wins on most boss fights till u get to T6 or so gear.

This is in my oppinion THE best pve warlock in the game btw...
http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=magtheridon&n=clinkz
Notice how he doesnt have 30% crit >.> hmmmm

The Coder

04-14-2008, 11:52 PM

And he has an excess of hit.

AlabamaBoy

04-15-2008, 03:41 AM

I can solo most of BRD on my 53 Lock.

42/2/0

IPlayWoW

04-15-2008, 05:31 AM

Clinkz, Nihilum member... far from the best. Knew who you meant without clicking it. And he isn't anywhere near as good as Buzzkill. Skill > gear, remember that.

Wizzy`

04-15-2008, 11:17 AM

I can solo most of BRD on my 53 Lock.

42/2/0

i can solo all of deadmines on my 49 druid

booyah.

For you retards who are going to take this seriously..Coder, that means you..It's a joke.

spencer 555

04-15-2008, 11:35 AM

Clinkz, Nihilum member... far from the best. Knew who you meant without clicking it. And he isn't anywhere near as good as Buzzkill. Skill > gear, remember that.

Both nihilim locks are exceptionally good and have seen more content then you or I will ever see.. you cant dismiss that.

Either way, the point I was trying to put across is that the highest dps specc for end game raiding as a lock is destro/demo. Their is a certain amount of gear needed to make it better then afflic/destro though, but its definately not 30% crit :P. Also note buzzkill is destro/demo specc without 30% crit as well >.>

Ill say 25% if that makes u happy :P it's 20 hehe

And he has an excess of hit.

I think you would be hard pressed to find a combination of gear at this lvl without overcapping hit. Its still early wait till they start farming sunwell :p

The Coder

04-15-2008, 02:26 PM

Thing is, more crit = more Improved Shadow Bolt debuff. And when reading the WoW EU Lock forums roughly 2 weeks ago, I read 30% crit.

IPlayWoW

04-15-2008, 06:51 PM

Both nihilim locks are exceptionally good and have seen more content then you or I will ever see.. you cant dismiss that.

Again, wrong. My personal progress is 2/6 SWP actually. Not to mention cleared BT a good 4-5 months ago and had it on farm since then getting our members fully geared in T6 for when 2.4 was released.

Again on the subject of locks. I believe all of ours are affi with around 20% crit, I'd have to look to know. We just don't use desto or demo in raiding due to their lack of dps compared to affi. Granted, demo locks and their shadow bolt spamming can be pretty high damage, but low compared to an affi locks full dot ticks with shadow bolt and drains etc.

Though, we did get one of our locks to spec for Leotheras fight to tank ofc :p

Wisher

04-15-2008, 06:52 PM

Specced Destro...really fun :)

IPlayWoW

04-15-2008, 06:58 PM

Another thing, it may be late, but yeah...

About druids, go feral. Resto druids have no use in end game as any other healers can easily top someone off before a resto druid even gets a heal in. Not to mention the buff is obsolete unless you actually need +resistance, even then it's still pretty useless as most other classes give a better +res buff *cough* pallys and huntards *cough*.

The Coder

04-15-2008, 07:43 PM

Again, wrong. My personal progress is 2/6 SWP actually. Not to mention cleared BT a good 4-5 months ago and had it on farm since then getting our members fully geared in T6 for when 2.4 was released.

Again on the subject of locks. I believe all of ours are affi with around 20% crit, I'd have to look to know. We just don't use desto or demo in raiding due to their lack of dps compared to affi. Granted, demo locks and their shadow bolt spamming can be pretty high damage, but low compared to an affi locks full dot ticks with shadow bolt and drains etc.

Though, we did get one of our locks to spec for Leotheras fight to tank ofc :p

Honestly, it depends on the fight. If both have the opportunity to sit back and cast away, no movement, destruction will deal more damage. However, affliction, with its several instants and quick cast spells can get off more spells on the run.

Another thing, it may be late, but yeah...

About druids, go feral. Resto druids have no use in end game as any other healers can easily top someone off before a resto druid even gets a heal in. Not to mention the buff is obsolete unless you actually need +resistance, even then it's still pretty useless as most other classes give a better +res buff *cough* pallys and huntards *cough*.

Pfft. EVERYONE knows that moonkin is the way to go end game. Everyone's always liek "WE NEEDZ MOAR BOOM CHICKENZ PLZ"

Sad part is, I met a moonkin who actually though he was an awesome end game DPS class, his only problem was "My mana doesn't last through the whole fight"

booyaka619

04-15-2008, 07:58 PM

One bad part about expansions is that the 70 gear you spent so much time on isnt the best anymore. It doesn't bother me. I can't wait until the new expansion! Death Knight. :)

Spirit_Monger

04-15-2008, 08:26 PM

Hit 60 on my lock ... Going to have to go for the Dreadsteed now soon. Probably wont be much fun.

What level do you all usually head to Zangarmarsh though? I guess I could now since it's listed as 60-64 on Wowhead, or should I finish quests in Hellfire and wait until 61, 62?

AlabamaBoy

04-15-2008, 08:31 PM

I skipped hellfire.

It's lame to quest in.

The Coder

04-15-2008, 10:17 PM

Wisher

04-16-2008, 06:50 AM

I go to zangzar at 61 or 62, usually finish most of hellfire before i go there. At least get the blue trinket.

IPlayWoW

04-16-2008, 09:49 AM

One bad part about expansions is that the 70 gear you spent so much time on isnt the best anymore. It doesn't bother me. I can't wait until the new expansion! Death Knight. :)

Actually, it's meant to be said, unless you're T6 geared or better, you won't have a gear advantage over a level 80 in full level 80 blues. Therefore those just starting the earlier 25 mans get screwed over unless their guild really hauls ass to T6 raids.

It's just seemingly pointless to even bother starting karazhan again at this stage as the expansion is said to release by oct 2008, though no date guarantees.

Oh and fyi, Death Knight is overrated :)

Ignition

04-16-2008, 09:54 AM

>:C NO!
you're going to quest there if you like it or not, I'm going to do it with you because I need the damn rep for my tankadin weapon.

Megabyte

04-16-2008, 12:00 PM

It's just seemingly pointless to even bother starting karazhan again at this stage as the expansion is said to release by oct 2008, though no date guarantees.

My bet is a Nov 23'rd release, to mark the anniversary of the game, though anytime from mid Oct to Nov follows the 14-15 month trend of their announcement to release timeline they've held to in the past.

Spirit_Monger

04-16-2008, 01:44 PM

I helped a guildie with dreadstead quest. It can be a real pain. Took several attempts, even with two 70s with us.

Yeah, I'm hoping to find a 70 lock with the mats to go, and then a few 70s from my guild to hopefully help out.

I go to zangzar at 61 or 62, usually finish most of hellfire before i go there. At least get the blue trinket.

Which trinket?

Wisher

04-16-2008, 03:20 PM

It's a group quest i forgot name of trinket.. it's a blue trinket you can get a tanking one physical dps one or caster dps one.. It ahs an equip effect and a cooldown effect.

IPlayWoW

04-16-2008, 03:52 PM

Bladefist's Breadth = phys dps
Vengeance of the illidari = caster dps/healer
Regal Protectorate = Tank one

;)

Though surprisingly the caster dps/healer one remained on my healadin until i got sha'tar revered for their trinket for the extra spell crit equip and healing when you pop it.

Spirit_Monger

04-16-2008, 06:29 PM

It's a group quest i forgot name of trinket.. it's a blue trinket you can get a tanking one physical dps one or caster dps one.. It ahs an equip effect and a cooldown effect.

Ahh, thanks.
I've seen a lot of people have that, didn't think it was from Hellfire though.

IPlayWoW

04-16-2008, 08:33 PM

[63] Cruel Intentions ;)
Part of a fairly longish chain from hellfire.

Wisher

04-17-2008, 06:47 AM

Ok i have a warrior and a priest on my 2v2 team.. and im a BM hunter. Warrior and priest are the same person, and warrior has shittish gear so we do 3 games. I'm confused on what spec my prirest partner should be though, because he has 4/5 s3 shadow set but we have one more games when he was using a healer set. Maybe we were just unlucky when we lost and he was shadow, any thoughts?

Megabyte

04-17-2008, 10:51 AM

You'll continue to reliably lose as you progress up the rankings with a shadow priest, they're simply not effective in 2v2 at this time, by and large (especially when teamed with other dps).

IPlayWoW

04-17-2008, 12:46 PM

Yeah shadow priests are only good with locks, otherwise forget it.
You'd want him as holy/disc spec. But being a BM hunter I know for sure I would choose a resto druid to team up with. No other class/spec.

The Coder

04-17-2008, 04:54 PM

Damn warlocks. This one sent his felguard in at me. WHILE FLYING.

IPlayWoW

04-17-2008, 05:58 PM

target, dismount, send pet <3

Ignition

04-17-2008, 06:02 PM

fear pet, repentance lock, buff meh, crusader strike(enters combat with instant attack)cits, white crit, seal of command crit. gg

IPlayWoW

04-17-2008, 06:10 PM

Agree.
Though I must say I do it differently.
Repetetance lock, fear pet, JotC, HoJ, SoC, CS, Auto *hope for SoC crit proc*...
GG lock.

Woodland

04-17-2008, 07:00 PM

I'm Balance now, and as McDonalds say...

I'm Lovin' It!

Spirit_Monger

04-17-2008, 07:15 PM

Finished half of the quests for the Dreadsteed. Has cost me around 75-100G so far, so not too bad I guess.

IPlayWoW

04-17-2008, 08:17 PM

I'm Balance now, and as McDonalds say...

I'm Lovin' It!

Moonkin can gtfo imo.
I'd never accept one into my guild, let alone let it raid.

Wisher

04-17-2008, 08:20 PM

I've raided with moonkin a couple times they have their uses and I like how they crit about every attack. They are insane in pvp too.

FreddyAdu23

04-17-2008, 08:27 PM

Yeah shadow priests are only good with locks, otherwise forget it.

FAIL.

Shadow priests enter a new realm of awesomeness when with locks, but are already amazing by themselves.

Ignition

04-17-2008, 08:56 PM

/crusader strike
woops, one shotted another clothy. mybad

AlabamaBoy

04-17-2008, 09:05 PM

I will never take something that makes a hooting noise when cut by an axe seriously.

Moonkin are...

The easiest thing I've ever killed.

I "two-shot" them on my elemental shaman.

By two shot I mean... hit two different commands.

Wizzy`

04-17-2008, 09:06 PM

The Coder

04-17-2008, 09:07 PM

Finished half of the quests for the Dreadsteed. Has cost me around 75-100G so far, so not too bad I guess.

Heh.

It'll cost more.

AlabamaBoy

04-17-2008, 09:08 PM

The commands are macroed.

So it's more than two actions.

Some people don't consider that two shotting.

Wizzy`

04-17-2008, 09:09 PM

Heh.

It'll cost more.

My brother just got his Dreadsteed last night..its sick.

The Coder

04-17-2008, 09:09 PM

So wait, EM + CL -> NS + LB?

Wizzy`

04-17-2008, 09:09 PM

The commands are macroed.

So it's more than two actions.

Some people don't consider that two shotting.

So basically, you press two buttons and it does a few attacks?

That's pretty queer. You're queer.

Spirit_Monger

04-17-2008, 09:15 PM

Heh.

It'll cost more.

Yeah.
I think I'll still need to dish out 154G or so for some stardust from Jaedenar, and at least 6G for those potions to go there as friendly.

Any idea if it will be much more after that?
Assuming I get another lock with the final mats.

The Coder

04-17-2008, 10:45 PM

Yeah.
I think I'll still need to dish out 154G or so for some stardust from Jaedenar, and at least 6G for those potions to go there as friendly.

Any idea if it will be much more after that?
Assuming I get another lock with the final mats.

The epic repair bill :P

Megabyte

04-18-2008, 12:30 AM

FAIL.

Shadow priests enter a new realm of awesomeness when with locks, but are already amazing by themselves.

Truth, like it or not they just can't hold their own in the arena's right now. It's a failing, balance wise, for the mechanics. No more no less.

Especially in 2v2, you need a diverse use class/spec combo and the shadow spec just doesn't cut it.

AlabamaBoy

04-18-2008, 02:36 AM

So wait, EM + CL -> NS + LB?

Yep.

And I usually get a LO proc from one of those two.

IPlayWoW

04-18-2008, 06:27 AM

Truth, like it or not they just can't hold their own in the arena's right now. It's a failing, balance wise, for the mechanics. No more no less.

Especially in 2v2, you need a diverse use class/spec combo and the shadow spec just doesn't cut it.

Exactly.

Shadow priests pure suck in arena now, unless combo'd with an affi lock. Like I said.

Yep.

And I usually get a LO proc from one of those two.

If not both.

Wisher

04-18-2008, 10:47 AM

the eye is annoying. SO many trash mobs.

Megabyte

04-18-2008, 11:45 AM

if you haven't, check out the PA page for their "10 words on WoW" contest

I particularly liked:
I go fishing because Azeroth doesn't have enough repetitive shit.

IPlayWoW

04-18-2008, 12:22 PM

the eye is annoying. SO many trash mobs.

BT, MH, SSC and kara are worse.

Wisher

04-18-2008, 01:59 PM

I have done kara that is horrible, i think i might go to ssc this week with guild ^^. And i've done hyjal on a private server, your right it does suck

IPlayWoW

04-18-2008, 05:12 PM

Even worse on retail because the mobs are grouped together properly etc.
It officially blows, hyjal that is. Rage winterchill wave is officially bullshit, imo.
The trash upto lurker is terrible. Hydross isn't too bad. Leo and morogrim are lame, vashj i can put up with. Karathress there's barely any.
I love how people find the Leotheras fight hard, it's not even close.
And how the hell is Vashj harder than Kael'thas is what I ask.

Hunt ^^

04-18-2008, 05:22 PM

LOL
On most private servers they buffed up Kael.
The only good thing about Kara is the mongoose recipe other wise Kara wouldn't even be completed as the other items are s$%#house.

The Coder

04-18-2008, 05:26 PM

This is fucking sickening. Some noobs have been camping the flight master for over 2 hours. And there's like 6 of them. The rogue stays stealthed right next to his respawn spot, the mages take turns spamming AoE around it, and the moonkin just snipes everyone off with moonfire. It's really, really frustrating, especially because of long ticket queues.

Spirit_Monger

04-18-2008, 06:22 PM

Which flight master?

And it's looking like I'll be spending around 350G - 400G for my Dreadsteed.
About 250 thus far for mats and then the Xorothian Stardust.
I found another Warlock charing me 160G to run my through Scholomance, then run me through DM West and get the Dreadsteed. He supplies more people for the run if need be, and pays them, so not too bad I guess.
Just need a loan from my guild for 80-100G or so since I'm dumb and spend a ton on cloth.

The Coder

04-18-2008, 06:25 PM

Ye, spirit me lad, I'd be savin' that fer yer flyin' mounts!

IPlayWoW

04-18-2008, 08:10 PM

LOL
On most private servers they buffed up Kael.
The only good thing about Kara is the mongoose recipe other wise Kara wouldn't even be completed as the other items are s$%#house.

You obviously have no idea of what you're talking about.
Kael'thas is already very hard for the gear level. Obviously it's easier for T6 guilds, but for those just starting the KT fight from scratch it's extremely hard to get right. Fyi, on most PRs, KT is bugged and you can't even attack him or his adds.
As for kara gear being a "s$%#house" that may be true once you're passed karazhan, but I'll have you know, until late SSC/TK it's very hard to get a decent upgrade. Unless it's tier gear of course.

Oh and Coder, if they're so noob, why don't you solo em? ;)

endless

04-18-2008, 09:13 PM

My account was compromised yesterday everything of value gone. Today everything is back and im back playing.

Blizz is awesome.

FreddyAdu23

04-19-2008, 07:08 AM

I dinged 70 on my NE priest last night, thats my second 70. =)

IPlayWoW

04-19-2008, 07:26 AM

My account was compromised yesterday everything of value gone. Today everything is back and im back playing.

Blizz is awesome.

Wow, blizz actually did something right for once :eek:
Never thought I'd see the day, or someone say the words blizz and awesome in the same sentence.

Wisher

04-19-2008, 08:53 AM

Gruuls is easssssssssssssy. it's sweet cause it only takes around an hour too :]

IPlayWoW

04-19-2008, 10:31 AM

An hour to do gruuls? Haha, that's just long.

Nightmarez

04-19-2008, 10:39 AM

i hate the game, but it makes a hell of a south park episode

The Coder

04-19-2008, 10:51 AM

Wow, blizz actually did something right for once :eek:
Never thought I'd see the day, or someone say the words blizz and awesome in the same sentence.

Without the word starcraft I wouldn't have expected it.

Gruuls is easssssssssssssy. it's sweet cause it only takes around an hour too :]

That's what's fun about Gruul's Lair, there's like no trash, it's just straight to the bosses

Wisher

04-19-2008, 11:02 AM

my only job in it is to MD high king ^_-. Gruuls/tk on saturdays ftw.

The Coder

04-19-2008, 12:32 PM

Some noob warlock tried to defend why warlocks should be able to keep fear unnerfed by comparing fear to polymorph. I really couldn't help but to lol.

endless

04-19-2008, 01:02 PM

Wow, blizz actually did something right for once :eek:
Never thought I'd see the day, or someone say the words blizz and awesome in the same sentence.

Yeah the whole process was quick and painless really. I have countless e-mails asking how my account is doing even after the fact.

So i have to take anything bad ive said about blizz.

IPlayWoW

04-19-2008, 03:55 PM

Maybe Blizz US is more competent than Blizz EU. The EU Blizz can't help but to fail everything.

Spirit_Monger

04-19-2008, 06:46 PM

Got my Dreadsteed today. :)

The 160 was easy to get for the run through Scholomance and DM West.
Finished in about 3 hours to do everything, only wiped about 3 times.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2039/wowscrnshot041908185222vo6.jpg

Megabyte

04-19-2008, 07:38 PM

You obviously have no idea of what you're talking about.
Kael'thas is already very hard for the gear level. Obviously it's easier for T6 guilds, but for those just starting the KT fight from scratch it's extremely hard to get right. Fyi, on most PRs, KT is bugged and you can't even attack him or his adds.

On every private servers all the raid bosses are bugged.

The best that anyone who codes the scripting for them can do is "approximate" the fight, they can never fully recreate it. Complicated fights like Kael will never be up to par because of the sheer effort that went into creating it...it's just not feasible in any sort of acceptable time frame to recreate that with a small private group's resources.

So the end result is a sort of half-boss for all the raid bosses. The only adjustable factor is the damage and health outputs for the bosses on the private scripts, so bosses are usually either way too easy or too difficult.

The Coder

04-19-2008, 08:13 PM

Maybe Blizz US is more competent than Blizz EU. The EU Blizz can't help but to fail everything.

LOL

booyaka619

04-19-2008, 10:05 PM

I hate Un'goro Crater.

IPlayWoW

04-20-2008, 05:35 AM

On every private servers all the raid bosses are bugged.

The best that anyone who codes the scripting for them can do is "approximate" the fight, they can never fully recreate it. Complicated fights like Kael will never be up to par because of the sheer effort that went into creating it...it's just not feasible in any sort of acceptable time frame to recreate that with a small private group's resources.

So the end result is a sort of half-boss for all the raid bosses. The only adjustable factor is the damage and health outputs for the bosses on the private scripts, so bosses are usually either way too easy or too difficult.

Figured it'd be something like that. I wouldn't know though, I actually only went by what I've heard about private server bosses then. I prefer killing them on retail and not on private realms :p

Megabyte

04-20-2008, 04:03 PM

Figured it'd be something like that. I wouldn't know though, I actually only went by what I've heard about private server bosses then. I prefer killing them on retail and not on private realms :p

Eh, I played fairly extensively on a few servers.

Most of them use a standard script and emulation system that's available, but a few advertise doing their own work and instance scripts. Even on servers that claim flawless recreation, it's just a sad imitation.

Yet to see any server that had an actual recreation of raid encounters (script wise), and I doubt it can be done privately.

As a side not, futher research into the legality (as well as comments made by Blizz CM's), have convinced me that private server setups are completely illegal as defined by copyright law. I know I claimed otherwise, but have been educated on the subject and am willing to correct myself here. Not sure why their existence is tolerated by Blizz.

Though I still think the private setups can provide a nice break from the monotony to the retail game.

IPlayWoW

04-20-2008, 07:55 PM

I thought it was pretty obvious it would be illegal.
It's an imitation of copyrighted software, in other words stolen, how can that not be illegal?

The Coder

04-20-2008, 08:23 PM

I've been playing on private servers since my sub ran out a week ago. They'll make you want to put a bullet in your head, with all the retards on them. This one has unscripted instances, so 90% of runs are PuGs, 50% of which fail before the first boss, 10% of which the leader MLs everything, and the other 40% all your loot get ninja'd by noobs.

Megabyte

04-20-2008, 08:30 PM

If you want to find some decent private server setups, I can recommend some of the more stand-up ones based on what you're looking for in the game.

It's an imitation of copyrighted software, in other words stolen, how can that not be illegal?

The server-side software is licensed (but don't know to whom the license is for) and doesn't use a single line of the retail server code.

As far as I can tell, the legality issue is simply intellectual rights on the game itself, not the software in use. However, it is clearly stated on the agreement we all click when play the game that we will only use official Blizzard servers. So anyone playing on the private realms is technically in violation, though I doubt that could ever be enforced for the average user.

I suspect that it's simply not worth Blizz's attention to hassle these servers, yet, but that's just what I think is the most likely reason and don't have a clue as to the actuality of it. Though, I also suspect that there are +100k users playing on private setups, worldwide, so take what you will from that. Purely speculation on my part, though. Too hard to track reliable numbers from all the servers, or even to find them all, with my limited time and resources.

Volcom

04-21-2008, 06:12 AM

Private servers was a nice break while i had no money.. i had a look at some content i hadn't seen before, went to places i hadnt been, and played some classes i hant played.
but now my loan has come through ill be going right back to retail even if i will feel even slower !!

as for the scripting, i found a couple that had near perfect illian and keal fights, made it alot more fun than just tank and spank.

IPlayWoW

04-21-2008, 12:54 PM

But how would you know they were nearly the same as the real fights if you haven't done them on retail?

Volcom

04-21-2008, 02:09 PM

i did Keal on retail, true i didn't do illidan, but i have seen videos and freinds do him, so i think i do have a fair opinion to comment on the scripts.

Megabyte

04-22-2008, 12:47 PM

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=26355213&sid=6189641&tag=latestnews;title;1

greatest news ever

IPlayWoW

04-22-2008, 03:16 PM

Only one word can describe that...

Pwnt.

The Coder

04-22-2008, 03:19 PM

Lulz

Spirit_Monger

04-22-2008, 07:07 PM

Do you all usually quest in Zangarmarsh, or skip right to Terrokar, or what?

I'm at 62 right now, and char. name is Mordechi if anyone wants to look at my armory.

Megabyte

04-22-2008, 07:57 PM

I go zang, and try to go through the zones by level to help make the quests efficient to complete (i.e. hellfire, zang, terrok, nagrand, bladespire, shadowmoon/netherstorm) progressively.

I prefer to focus on leveling than the most efficient strategy for rep building, since heroics don't take revered rep anymore. 62 is ideal for starting in Zang, whereas Terrok is a bit rougher at that level.

Wisher

04-22-2008, 07:59 PM

For outlands I go

Hellfire:58-61
Zang: 61-63
Terrokar: 63-65
Nagrand: 65-67
Bladespire: 67-68
Netherstorm: 68-70 or you can go to shadowmoon through this. Never really liked shadowmoon

IPlayWoW

04-22-2008, 08:02 PM

Bladespire?
You mean blade's edge mountains right?

Spirit_Monger

04-22-2008, 10:27 PM

Thanks.

I had started a little zangarmarsh because of the leveling efficiency like mega said.
Just wasn't sure if the rewards or whatever other reason would make skipping a certain zone worth it.

Ignition

04-24-2008, 10:32 AM

Fuckin'a SM and Coder too. yall level slow as hell.

On a brighter note I went main/main off tank for the guild this week. Ran Kara prot for the first time ever, get this: didn't wipe on anything other then prince (unlucky infernal) and guess what our group make up was?
Pally - Prot
Hunter - dont care
Shammy -resto
Droodx3 - resto/resto/prot
Lockx2 - Aff/ballance
Mage - Fire
Rouge - bawlz to the wall deepz

best part being?
Prot pally + spam heals = CC
I think the only time we banish anything where the damn adds on what's his face

damn it was fun, I had so many guildies sending me tells thanking me for going prot it was retarded. any hoo, it's pretty fun. I think I'll stay prot for a while