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IPlayWoW

04-24-2008, 01:02 PM

Fuckin'a SM and Coder too. yall level slow as hell.

On a brighter note I went main/main off tank for the guild this week. Ran Kara prot for the first time ever, get this: didn't wipe on anything other then prince (unlucky infernal) and guess what our group make up was?
Pally - Prot
Hunter - dont care
Shammy -resto
Droodx3 - resto/resto/prot
Lockx2 - Aff/ballance
Mage - Fire
Rouge - bawlz to the wall deepz

best part being?
Prot pally + spam heals = CC
I think the only time we banish anything where the damn adds on what's his face

damn it was fun, I had so many guildies sending me tells thanking me for going prot it was retarded. any hoo, it's pretty fun. I think I'll stay prot for a while

Sounds exactly like a prot pally who knows what he's doing.
Prot pally = fuck cc, no need for it.
Best fight for a prot pally is with every mob in that area on it, get all the procs and can AoE them down.
Gj ig :p

The Coder

04-24-2008, 01:24 PM

Fuckin'a SM and Coder too. yall level slow as hell.

On a brighter note I went main/main off tank for the guild this week. Ran Kara prot for the first time ever, get this: didn't wipe on anything other then prince (unlucky infernal) and guess what our group make up was?
Pally - Prot
Hunter - dont care
Shammy -resto
Droodx3 - resto/resto/prot
Lockx2 - Aff/ballance
Mage - Fire
Rouge - bawlz to the wall deepz

best part being?
Prot pally + spam heals = CC
I think the only time we banish anything where the damn adds on what's his face

damn it was fun, I had so many guildies sending me tells thanking me for going prot it was retarded. any hoo, it's pretty fun. I think I'll stay prot for a while

I've got 7 characters in their 40s. I don't have the focus to do just one.

Wisher

04-24-2008, 01:52 PM

Bladespire?
You mean blade's edge mountains right?

lol yeah. And prot pally tanks absolutely ownn. Very nice job on kara :]

FreddyAdu23

04-24-2008, 02:41 PM

Sounds exactly like a prot pally who knows what he's doing.
Prot pally = fuck cc, no need for it.
Best fight for a prot pally is with every mob in that area on it, get all the procs and can AoE them down.
Gj ig :p

www.wowhobbs.blogspot.com

that guy a prot pally that gets whole insatcnes after him and AoE's them all down, he did the whole SM cath in one pull by himself

IPlayWoW

04-24-2008, 03:29 PM

I pull all of SM as holy too mate ;)

Megabyte

04-24-2008, 03:50 PM

How much is this game ? Per Month ?

you should take the minute it'd take to look it up on their website...you know, the bare bones minimal effort

Spirit_Monger

04-24-2008, 08:56 PM

Blizz needs to change a rogue's sap ability.
Had one continually sap me for like 5 minutes in a neutral city, where any other hostile action gets the guards to attack you.

I know that's basically what a rogue is, but that was ridiculous.
Not sure if you can message a GM about that, but most tickets I've had take too long for an answer anyway ...

Hunt ^^

04-24-2008, 08:59 PM

LOL
I got perm stunned by 2 rogues.
Took them like 10 minutes to kill me cause i was so tank xD.

TGR Leader

04-24-2008, 11:27 PM

Just please tell me the darn price .

IPlayWoW

04-25-2008, 08:14 AM

Ignition

04-25-2008, 10:43 AM

spencer 555

04-25-2008, 11:06 AM

How does a resto druid vs prot pally duel take that long.. On my resto druid I would eat u up in about 20 minutes ;)

The Coder

04-25-2008, 01:27 PM

Three rogues died yesterday in what appears to be a failed ganking attempt. No word yet from the authorities, but witnesses say "It was pure ownage"

endless

04-25-2008, 01:30 PM

Druids FTW.

Spirit_Monger

04-25-2008, 03:42 PM

Spirit, if he continuously saps you in a neutral zone and comes out of stealth, the guards will attack him, while he is in stealth they will not.

The funny thing about rogues is they completely fail to stunlock full S3 healadins, which means vs rogues I auto win on mine.

Then again, I do have a rogue and know all the tricks in the book so maybe I do have a bit of an unfair advantage. Though, I must say any competent pvp healadin should be able to deal with rogues.

So would attacking him with some type of instant cast while he is circling me and I can see him, get him attacked to?
My goal is to not die, but if that gets him killed to I suppose it would save time.

TGR Leader

04-25-2008, 04:29 PM

Say if I bought everything needed for this game. How much would it cost altogether ?

endless

04-25-2008, 04:49 PM

$20 for the game ( one month free ) + $30 for the expansion + $15 a month

IPlayWoW

04-25-2008, 07:45 PM

IPlayWoW, you're damn right about the prot, hehe Ive got 83% block with holy shield up and a rebout proc (and that's me TOTALLY undergeared roflz)

Who wants to hear the most ridicules thing In the entire fucking world?
a dule out side of org.
me (prot pallly) and a resto drood
1 hour and 10 minutes into the fight (both pretty much full mana and full HP)
he stealth's and runs. (I assume its to get his mana up or sneek up from behind. I start /yelling "can we just call it a draw It's getting late I'd like to get some sleep"
before I could hit enter to yell at him "what's his face (lino or loni or something like that) has fled from Moonzeal
O
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F
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Yeah, I've had ridiculously long duels on my holy pally. Resto I usually 1 shot on my ret pally. I think the longest duel I've had on my healer is about, 2 hours or something stupid til we both got bored and decided to call it a draw.
Once ended up resto druid vs me in arena too, boy did that take a long time :dry:

So would attacking him with some type of instant cast while he is circling me and I can see him, get him attacked to?
My goal is to not die, but if that gets him killed to I suppose it would save time.

Technically it should, but at the same time it'd get you killed (durability is affected by this also).

The Coder

04-25-2008, 08:45 PM

Resto shaman vs. Resto druid was ridiculously long.

Wisher

04-25-2008, 10:28 PM

Resto druid vs holy pally would be longer i think

The Coder

04-25-2008, 11:35 PM

Eh. Water Shield + Earth Shield = Long fight.

IPlayWoW

04-26-2008, 05:53 AM

Resto druid vs holy pally would be longer i think

Like I said in my previous post ^_-

TGR Leader

04-26-2008, 06:06 AM

$20 for the game ( one month free ) + $30 for the expansion + $15 a month

what is expansion ?

IPlayWoW

04-26-2008, 08:38 AM

Jesus dude, go look it up yourself, stop being lazy.

www.worldofwarcraft.com
www.wow-europe.com

All the info you need is there, gogo.

TGR Leader

04-26-2008, 09:51 AM

I will be lazy when I like, and if I like

Thanks :).

Megabyte

04-26-2008, 04:03 PM

I will be lazy when I like, and if I like

Thanks :).

You'll be lazy all you damn well please, and the rest of us will simply take the time to mock you. I feel like being less than chivalrous to such a blatantly pathetic, and clueless, attitude you display.

That being said, go screw yourself, quit being a douche and take 5 minutes to go figure it out anything you need to know.

IPlayWoW

04-26-2008, 08:36 PM

Couldn't have said it better myself.

The Coder

04-26-2008, 08:58 PM

I sent him a more insulting message in rep.
I figured it was better than bashing him in chat.
But hey, all the cool kids are doing it.

Wisher

04-26-2008, 10:19 PM

Did gruuls tonight and got t4 legs =D. After my guild had it's first try at hydross. Got him to 45ish percent then died. I had to go but theyare still workin on him atm

The Coder

04-26-2008, 10:46 PM

Gratz wisher

Ignition

04-27-2008, 11:38 AM

Camping out the badge vender, she's 99% now.
Legs, Chest Kgo!

IPlayWoW

04-27-2008, 12:45 PM

Lol, your realm still haven't got it?
We've had ours for more than a week already.

Spirit_Monger

04-27-2008, 08:18 PM

I'm thinking about picking up enchanting, but I don't know if I should on my warlock, or put it on my rogue, and drop herbalism.
Anyone, suggestions for that?

IPlayWoW

04-27-2008, 08:55 PM

Most smart clothies (mages, priests & locks) have the tailoring and enchanting combo. Because not only do they have great tailoring sets, but as you make greens from tailoring you get free mats by DEing it and so forth. So I'd say ench on lock.

Wisher

04-27-2008, 09:31 PM

hmm did void reaver :/ I had to go after we got him to 29% so hopefully my guild clears him ^^.

Spirit_Monger

04-27-2008, 09:32 PM

That was my original plan, and I was going to drop skinning once I was 60.
Only reason I'm not really sure which to go with is that it would be nice to be able to also enchant my rogue gear, at least the BoP or soulbound items still.
But meh. I probably will end up going with the lock.

IPlayWoW

04-27-2008, 09:41 PM

Well, really you want to be looking at end game enchants, well no, the ring enchants. You can get +12 spell damage ones, so 24 spell damage on a lock vs +4 weapon damage for a rogue? I know what I'd choose seeing as rogues never use any of the +weapon damage abilities in PvE if they know how to play.

Spirit_Monger

04-27-2008, 09:59 PM

Ill probably drop skinning once I log back on then.
Was planning on doing some fishing and getting my cooking skill back to where it should be anyway, so I can farm some lower instances to.

IPlayWoW

04-28-2008, 05:27 AM

Aye, SM is just awesome if you have tailoring/enchanting at that level, so much cloth and greens from it, it's unreal.

spencer 555

04-28-2008, 12:41 PM

Got 1.3k dps on mag fight... tank and spank now :)

Spirit_Monger

04-28-2008, 12:43 PM

I could probably run it, at least up until Cathedral maybe. Only at 63 right now though so I'd have to be careful with pulls still.

FreddyAdu23

04-28-2008, 02:16 PM

my guild ran gruuls yesterday for the first time, we beat it,
the first boss is all in teh way u pull him, we wiped a ton in gruuls but we beat it =)

we've been running kara and clearing whole instance for a while

Wisher

04-28-2008, 02:50 PM

What's harder gruuls or mag's lair?

IPlayWoW

04-28-2008, 04:08 PM

Pre-every single bloody nerf they've been given.
Maggy was harder.
Now, maggy still is harder. But at the same time, both are pitifully easy. I'd say magisters terrace NORMAL is easier than those 2, it's pathetic.

Got 1.3k dps on mag fight... tank and spank now :)

This claim, I'd like to see proof of. Because unless you're a mage/lock/hunter/ret pally in tier 5 or better, this statement is highly unlikely. NOBODY in gear equal to the maggy fight can break 1k dps, regardless of class OR spec.

FreddyAdu23

04-28-2008, 05:54 PM

What's harder gruuls or mag's lair?
most people say mag, but some think mag is easier, ill find out since we are doing mag next weekend
Pre-every single bloody nerf they've been given.
Maggy was harder.
Now, maggy still is harder. But at the same time, both are pitifully easy. I'd say magisters terrace NORMAL is easier than those 2, it's pathetic.

Ya its easy for ur guild, in your full tier 6............ There for people trying to get there tier 4 (not yet have it), there is a biggggg difference in gear between those too.

and a normal 5 man easier than two 25man raids? well duh........

The Coder

04-28-2008, 07:04 PM

This claim, I'd like to see proof of. Because unless you're a mage/lock/hunter/ret pally in tier 5 or better, this statement is highly unlikely. NOBODY in gear equal to the maggy fight can break 1k dps, regardless of class OR spec.

I doubt that

A rogue who has combat potency proc on every single swing and crits each time could easily break 1k without 25.

Of course, that's never going to happen, so yes, I'm going to agree with you. The odds of you breaking 1.3k are very, very low.

And spirit, yea, Enchanting's probably better on your Warlock, especially because he'll actually benefit from pairing it with tailoring. There's some pretty beastly Leatherworking gear out there for rogues, too.

Spirit_Monger

04-28-2008, 07:24 PM

Yeah, I ran RFC and disenchanted my SFK loot I saved from a while ago so I'm at 81 now.

Been working on my UI to.
Anyone know what the guy in this (http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1007/gieluipriestzt5.jpg) did to make his combat log (the one above his bags) send the info like that? Not sure if it's an addon or all Prat settings? (that is prat, right?)

Tried buying stuff to resell on the AH today to so I'll see how that goes.

IPlayWoW

04-29-2008, 09:47 AM

most people say mag, but some think mag is easier, ill find out since we are doing mag next weekend

Ya its easy for ur guild, in your full tier 6............ There for people trying to get there tier 4 (not yet have it), there is a biggggg difference in gear between those too.

and a normal 5 man easier than two 25man raids? well duh........

Yeah, maybe we are in full tier 6. But I'm talking about when we were in gear equal to the bosses. We did magtheridon before the first EVER nerf, and I can tell you that was not easy what so ever, in fact extremely hard and we did that in tier 4 minus chest and KZ/GL loot. It took us about 5-6 attempts to take him down, though.

Even then, mag was a shitload harder, what with being the final Tier 4 boss, so you'd expect him to be harder than the rest.

I also meant harder, not easier, typo >.<

I doubt that

A rogue who has combat potency proc on every single swing and crits each time could easily break 1k without 25.

Of course, that's never going to happen, so yes, I'm going to agree with you. The odds of you breaking 1.3k are very, very low.

Not sustained dps. It's possible they could do it for a short time, indeed. But not sustained and average dps throughout the whole encounter.

The only time I've EVER broken 1.3k sustained dps was on Akama on my ret pally, ended up with around 1.7k sustained dps throughout the whole fight or something silly. But that because of our melee group. Fury warrior, ret pally, enhance shaman, feral druid and marks hunter. With that alone you have Battle Shout, (Imp)Sanctity aura, (Imp)Leader of the pack, Trueshot Aura, Strength of Earth totem and Windfury totem, along with mana spring to save my ass from going oom. Oh and not to mention Heroism and haste drums from the druid and hunter :happy:
We're talking about a BT/MH/T6 geared ret pally here. 2 bits of T6 and the rest filled with better statted warrior gear.

Oh and spirit, I think you'll find that combat log is the default one. Go into interface options by hitting escape and you'll find something about combat log and just check it and accept, it'll come out like that. It's a standard UI option, but if you wanna change it back so it doesn't show, you can't set it back. So just think if you really do want it, cos it can get annoying.

Spirit_Monger

04-29-2008, 12:52 PM

Oh and spirit, I think you'll find that combat log is the default one. Go into interface options by hitting escape and you'll find something about combat log and just check it and accept, it'll come out like that. It's a standard UI option, but if you wanna change it back so it doesn't show, you can't set it back. So just think if you really do want it, cos it can get annoying.

I think a found a mod that does it.
http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SimpleCombatLog

Will try that though, if that mod doesn't work, thanks.

The Coder

04-29-2008, 01:24 PM

Yeah, maybe we are in full tier 6. But I'm talking about when we were in gear equal to the bosses. We did magtheridon before the first EVER nerf, and I can tell you that was not easy what so ever, in fact extremely hard and we did that in tier 4 minus chest and KZ/GL loot. It took us about 5-6 attempts to take him down, though.

Even then, mag was a shitload harder, what with being the final Tier 4 boss, so you'd expect him to be harder than the rest.

I also meant harder, not easier, typo >.<

Not sustained dps. It's possible they could do it for a short time, indeed. But not sustained and average dps throughout the whole encounter.

The only time I've EVER broken 1.3k sustained dps was on Akama on my ret pally, ended up with around 1.7k sustained dps throughout the whole fight or something silly. But that because of our melee group. Fury warrior, ret pally, enhance shaman, feral druid and marks hunter. With that alone you have Battle Shout, (Imp)Sanctity aura, (Imp)Leader of the pack, Trueshot Aura, Strength of Earth totem and Windfury totem, along with mana spring to save my ass from going oom. Oh and not to mention Heroism and haste drums from the druid and hunter :happy:
We're talking about a BT/MH/T6 geared ret pally here. 2 bits of T6 and the rest filled with better statted warrior gear.

Oh and spirit, I think you'll find that combat log is the default one. Go into interface options by hitting escape and you'll find something about combat log and just check it and accept, it'll come out like that. It's a standard UI option, but if you wanna change it back so it doesn't show, you can't set it back. So just think if you really do want it, cos it can get annoying.

What I'm talking about is one in googolplex odds. It's theoretically possible, yet will never happen.

Spirit_Monger

04-29-2008, 06:31 PM

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1465/wowscrnshot042908192204az8.jpg

That's my UI so far.
I think Blizzard's new combat log system messed up the way to get it like it was in the screenshot, and as far as I could tell didn't offer any way to do it from their settings.
So I'm giving up on that part for now. :p

The Coder

04-29-2008, 10:34 PM

How do you live without symmetry?

Spirit_Monger

04-30-2008, 02:55 PM

How do you live without symmetry?

Meh. I'm never 100% happy with my own UI, but I've never been a fan of installing someone else's either ever since I tried that.
So since it's always changing I never really have to deal with it the same way for a long time.

Any suggestions for it?

IPlayWoW

04-30-2008, 08:11 PM

Spirit_Monger

04-30-2008, 08:22 PM

What addons do you use?

I recognize Grid, Bartender3, Titan Panel, and are you using eePanels to hold Grid?

IPlayWoW

04-30-2008, 08:25 PM

Nope. Just grid alone, turned off the xperl raid bars.

The Coder

04-30-2008, 08:49 PM

Here's an old screeny I have of my Raid UI as a healadin (this is about 3 months old). I still use it now.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8117/raidui2ux0.jpg

Tidy enough to live with.

Edit: For those who think ret pallys have shit damage, I found this screeny of my ret pally's stats with just trinket and BoM.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4773/narundorstatscv2.jpg

Edit2: My bad, just remembered Heroism was in that, hence the attack speed. That only adds about 50 or so melee dps so knock 50 of that off :p

I was gonna say, he's got all his shit blown.
Anyway, ret pallys do have insane damage, but only once they're well geared.
They're by far the most gear dependent damage dealers in game, and considering most don't have the gear for it, they do shit damage.

IPlayWoW

05-01-2008, 05:30 AM

Nah, all his shit blown is 3k+ AP and well over 750 melee dps.
Only trinket, BoM and heroism in that. Usually he has about 2.3k AP Unbuffed.
In that's he wearing 5/5 T6 with warrior T6 lookalike dps non sets etc.
Now he wears the dps warrior 2.4 badge non sets and T6 chest and shoulders. I'll take a screeny of him when I next go on him and when I respec him back to ret. His stats are even more ridiculous now. He's holy atm and has been for a couple weeks due to being down a healer for SWP.
But yeah, they are extremeley gear dependant. Lucky thing is I've been with them as retri since karazhan, so I've always been picking up dps gear for him. Plenty of crying warriors :)

Ignition

05-01-2008, 06:59 AM

I was gonna say, he's got all his shit blown.
Anyway, ret pallys do have insane damage, but only once they're well geared.
They're by far the most gear dependent damage dealers in game, and considering most don't have the gear for it, they do shit damage.

Nubs, come on guys you should know that yes, they do do damage. but for the most part they are there to help up every one else's performance. I've raided Ret for quit a while (miss it a little bit now as well) and I've done all the reading up. Yes they do dmg but you're not supposed to top any charts, just your just supposed to push very one else higher on them.

Wisher

05-01-2008, 07:25 AM

Ret pallies do do really good dps especially if placed with the right group to benefit from windfury etc. Also their blessings own

IPlayWoW

05-01-2008, 06:45 PM

Yes they do dmg but you're not supposed to top any charts, just your just supposed to push very one else higher on them.

Eh, I've always been like "screw you dual wielding and caster nubs, 2h is the way to go and I WILL prove to you I am number 1 dps as retri". Proved it enough times. I really couldn't care less about how I improve other peoples damage, I'm in it to prove ret CAN and DOES do sick damage and cos I like seeing big pretty numbers fly across my screen :)

Spirit_Monger

05-01-2008, 09:53 PM

Kind of switched my UI again.
Switched Pitbull with ag_UF and added a few things basically.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6092/wowscrnshot050108233154gw2.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1593/wowscrnshot050108233132hv9.jpg

I did find an addon that made your combat log somewhat like what I was looking for.

I was basing my UI off of this one for now.
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2632/uitw8.jpg

Addon memory is high right now but when I'm not running LightHeaded it drops at least 10MB.

Wisher

05-02-2008, 05:49 AM

You have like four health bars that's sweet.

Did all of kara, was intensee. Prince took a couple attempts because of the damned hellfires.

Ignition

05-02-2008, 06:40 AM

Ret pallies do do really good dps especially if placed with the right group to benefit from windfury etc. Also their blessings own
Orly!? I totally didn't know that. thanks captain obvious!
Eh, I've always been like "screw you dual wielding and caster nubs, 2h is the way to go and I WILL prove to you I am number 1 dps as retri". Proved it enough times. I really couldn't care less about how I improve other peoples damage, I'm in it to prove ret CAN and DOES do sick damage and cos I like seeing big pretty numbers fly across my screen :)I miss my big pretty numbers :(
I crit for 260sih at the moment :cry:

You have like four health bars that's sweet.

Did all of kara, was intensee. Prince took a couple attempts because of the damned hellfires.
1) it's called target, of target of target.
2) they're called infernals -_-"
and I one shot every boss in there every Tuesday night badge farm FTW! yes, that includes downing curator 1st evocation for the last 3 weeks ^_^
Wana know how I do it? I sap out all my CC for 1 extra healer and more dps. spaming consecrate = CC

Spirit_Monger

05-02-2008, 11:06 AM

Yeah.
It's not really needed, but oh well.
I might disable the Target's target's target which is on the top right so I have more room for something else.
Might also move the unit frames up some to a little.
Still need to put the health bar somewhere else and maybe get rid of the options thing at the top left.

Ignition

05-02-2008, 11:57 AM

One thing I've seen that almost every one here could use: the mod that'll pile all of you're mini map buttons into their own (hideabul) bar. really helps clean things up, I cant stand a cluttered map. I'll post pics of my UI when I get home.

P.S.:

"hey pally tank what's the pull order?"
"this room, the hall, the next room, and the boss" *biffs shield*

Spirit_Monger

05-02-2008, 01:18 PM

Yeah I don't like the buttons on my map either.
I'm alright with having them displayed on FuBar for easy access, while they are still very small and out of the way at the same time.

The Coder

05-02-2008, 01:40 PM

Most of them let you turn off their buttons.

Wisher

05-02-2008, 02:21 PM

1) it's called target, of target of target.
2) they're called infernals -_-"
and I one shot every boss in there every Tuesday night badge farm FTW! yes, that includes downing curator 1st evocation for the last 3 weeks ^_^
Wana know how I do it? I sap out all my CC for 1 extra healer and more dps. spaming consecrate = CC

Hellfires/infernals whatever. Same annoyance. And we did down curator 1st evocation :]

IPlayWoW

05-02-2008, 05:18 PM

Downing curator before any evocations ftw.

As for the pally tank business, just grab an imba healer and pull the instance with AoE classes, auto win :D

Spirit_Monger

05-02-2008, 09:41 PM

Enchanting is a pain to level. :dry:
Instance drops don't drop many greens, and the blues disenchant into items I can't use without the more basic essences which disenchant from the greens, it seems.
So back to leveling I suppose, and I'll just buy things from the AH or something.

The Coder

05-02-2008, 09:57 PM

Tailoring is thar for a razon.

booyaka619

05-02-2008, 10:10 PM

I want my epic :angry:

IPlayWoW

05-03-2008, 07:43 AM

Don't we all...?

endless

05-03-2008, 08:46 AM

NO WAY MAN...
TFT is the best i am addicted to X hero siege it is like the best game ever
(online)

LOL. :)

Spirit_Monger

05-03-2008, 12:33 PM

Tailoring is thar for a razon.

Yeah, thanks
Totally forgot I could make greens and blues through tailoring. :p

IPlayWoW

05-03-2008, 04:10 PM

Haha ^^
Yeah I think tailoring/enchanting combo has to be the easiest profs to max out.

Spirit_Monger

05-03-2008, 05:47 PM

So, I can't decide if I should keep the greens I get now, or just put them on the AH and continue to make tailoring items when I get to this level.
Don't feel like running to bank them all the time though either. =\

Wisher

05-03-2008, 05:53 PM

If you AH random drops from outlands they most likely won't be bought. The questing gear is usuallyw ay better and people don't like to waste money usually. IMO DE them.

booyaka619

05-03-2008, 06:09 PM

Anyone have any tips on making epic mount training money?

The Coder

05-03-2008, 08:13 PM

Yeah, thanks
Totally forgot I could make greens and blues through tailoring. :p

And epics. I'm all over the professor plums baby.

IPlayWoW

05-03-2008, 08:51 PM

Anyone have any tips on making epic mount training money?

I hear chinese guys can usually help you with that.

And epics. I'm all over the professor plums baby.

End game enchanting :wub:
DE any stuff you've upgraded for voids for easy cash. Free end game enchants for yourself and ring enchants. I love it!

Spirit_Monger

05-03-2008, 11:13 PM

Anyone have any tips on making epic mount training money?

For making money ... Just continue doing quests, farming mats and selling them on the AH, kill mobs, or play the AH and bid on cheap things and relist them at a higher price.
I've started to play the AH. Started with 75G and I'm thinking that should everything sell that I have listed right now, and all my bids get returned or I sell those, I'll have over 250G.
So it's risky but it can work, and is probably one of the easiest ways.
Also less boring because it's not always so repetitive.

And epics. I'm all over the professor plums baby.

Only epic I can make is Robe of the Void right now I think.
Someone had it listed as a couple silver for a bid so I took advantage of that. :p

I'm also thinking of changing guilds once I hit 70.
The one I'm in now isn't necessarily bad, but there aren't many active 70's in it.
So I'm thinking of switching from Burial Detail (http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Kel%27Thuzad&n=Burial+Detail&p=1) to One Three Three Seven (http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Kel%27Thuzad&n=One+Three+Three+Seven&p=1).
Maybe someday I'll apply to Exodus or Optimus Prime. ;)

FreddyAdu23

05-04-2008, 08:34 AM

We did gruuls again yesterday

I think

High King - Easiest fight ever, as long as you get the pull right

Gruuls - pretty easy fight as long as ur raid spreads out, and has some good dps

IPlayWoW

05-04-2008, 04:11 PM

And your healers can't be complete nabs with less than 7k hp or you're on a hiding to nothing. Better yet, just get a bunch of pallys. They can easily handle shatter.
Plus your MT had better have 13k+ hp unbuffed.

Did Zul'jin for the first time on my belf pally (healadin). 1 shotted him cos the guild I'm in has had ZA on full farm since the day after 2.3 was released. I love how people say that fight is hard to heal. It's so simple and easy it's unreal.

And don't ask how I got accepted into a guild already progressing through MH on it without ever doing ZA on that char, because I do not know. But either way... ZA is now my favorite raid... Except for the goddamn trash. Too much of it, so much so that I end up falling asleep of boredom during trash clearing.

FreddyAdu23

05-04-2008, 06:22 PM

our MT has 14.5k health unbuffed, or offtank about 14k

Mt - warr, OT - druid

Wisher

05-04-2008, 06:28 PM

Our mt ahs 15618 health unbuffed lol, about to do astromancer solorian.

IPlayWoW

05-04-2008, 06:47 PM

Not too shoddy.
We have 3 MTs (depending on fight) of each class.
Warrior, pally and bear.
Warrior rolls 17.6k hp unbuffed, pally about 16k and the bear... well he doesn't count cos he breaks 20k in bear, I hate him. Makes me look mediocre with my 9k hp as holy :dry:
Btw, Eredar Twins are now prey of Rebirth, Anachronos EU. We downed them last night :)
In the words of our GM: "GIIIIIEEFFF M'URU!!"

Spirit_Monger

05-04-2008, 07:02 PM

How long does your raids usually take? For lets say, Kara, and how long would a tougher raid take?
And do you go through the whole raid, or just some bosses, or does it depend on guild policy?

Ignition

05-04-2008, 09:40 PM

got myself my epic yesterday. just working on 375 enchant/engineering now /more money down the drain

Oh, and I'm farming the fuck out of thunderfurry too

IPlayWoW

05-05-2008, 04:38 AM

How long does your raids usually take? For lets say, Kara, and how long would a tougher raid take?
And do you go through the whole raid, or just some bosses, or does it depend on guild policy?

Raid times are 7.30-Midnight Game Time.
As for how much we do in a night...

Kara, clear it in a night.
Gruul + Maggy + Void Reaver, in a night.
Rest of TK, clear it in a night.
Usually clear SSC in 1-2 nights.
MH in 2 nights.
BT in 2 nights.
First 3 in SWP take a night or 2 also. Downing Eredar Twins was a whole night of wiping >.<

Though, we don't do anything other than BT, MH and SWP. Unless we're taking our alts to a lower raid on an off day.

Spirit_Monger

05-05-2008, 01:02 PM

So it's pretty much safe to say that unless you're going to somewhere like Kara with a group who easily is clearing BT, it will take around 5 hours to do?

5 hours seems to be the average.
Don't know if I would ever be able to fit 5 hours straight in with WoW until I'm in college or something.

Wisher

05-05-2008, 02:35 PM

Depends if your doing full kara clear which most people do do (Depending if you have the certain classes)

Kara takes about 4 hours with no wipes or a lot of random afks.

FreddyAdu23

05-05-2008, 02:52 PM

my guild can do kara in a night, 6:45 we start our raids, kara takes till like 12, but most of the time we leave out nightbane, and kill him later.

Gruuls doesnt take long at all, but sometimes (depending on the raid, adn amount of new people we have) we wipe a lot because of people walking into others...(only thing that kills us)
We havent tried mag yet, idk why lol

We clear a couple bosses in ZA, but that instance has too much trash...

My guild normaly has 5 min breaks after every 3-4 boss so we avoid random afks

Spirit_Monger

05-05-2008, 03:44 PM

FreddyAdu23

05-05-2008, 05:21 PM

Do most guilds, or any at all allow you to attend for some bosses, and sub you with someone else for other bosses, if you need to leave?
I've never raided so I'm trying to figure out what seems to be the way most guilds would operate.
I'm not looking for some hardcore raiding guild though either.
Well in my guild we have 2 groups running kara, and we sub out new people with old if the vet of guild needs a certin drop from a certin boss.

Lets say some hunter (a veteran of guild) needs the bow that drops from prince (forgot name), and some random drop from Shade of Aran, we would sub that hunter in for those two boss fights, and let new person to guild do the rest, but if the new person was a complete trouble / no dps /w/e we would sub him out most of instance.

If we have two new members and we only have spot for one in raid, we would sub them out on certin boss fights depending on what they need

The Coder

05-05-2008, 05:29 PM

IPlayWoW

05-05-2008, 05:52 PM

Well I can tell you our basic 10 and 25 man set ups seeing as we have 30 (unique) members. We don't allow alts as we have an alts guild so yeah.

For 10s we usually have:
5 dps 2 tanks 3 healers.
Yes, certain classes but I can't think/remember them right about now, nor do I really care as we never do anything lower than BT/MH/SWP anymore anyway. With the mains guild, at least.

For 25s we usually have:
3-4 tanks, 14-15 dps and 7 healers.
Classes go without saying as we have a specifically class balanced guild for max potential raid wise.

Yes, we are a hardcore raid guild and only give a shit about killing things, not fairness (unfortunate and selfish to some but we don't care).

People on our realm have said we're even tighter than guilds like Nihilum, D&Ts, EJs and SK Gaming :dry:

As for the whole "your guilds cleared BT, you must be able to clear most raids and especially kara in a night" stuff. That is simply not true. It all depends on the group balance, the amount of slacking, how determined you are, how long your breaks during the raid are etc. Yes, our guild can clear kara in a night. Attumen-Nightbane we can do within 2 and a half hours quite easily. And you don't necessarily have to be a BT clear/SWP guild to be able to clear kara in a night.
What it takes is practice, motivation, teamplay and communication. Gear does help but it's not all about that.
As for motivation, we actually once sat down and raided for 24 hours straight with about an hour total worth of breaks. In that time we cleared everything. Karazhan, Gruul, ZA, Maggy, SSC, TK, MH and BT in 1 day.
Yes that probably sounds extremely sad, but I can tell you know, it was damn fun.

Oh and as Coder said, yes, hardcore raid guilds do tend to sub people a lot. Casual guilds don't seem to care about group balance and go with whoever is online as long as they have the 2 3 5 setup (seeing as most casuals only do 10 mans). This is why those type of guilds tend to fall apart within a month or 2 of starting raiding. Mainly due to the fact that they fail because they don't know how to have a balanced killing group.

Ignition

05-05-2008, 08:38 PM

Iplay, got a question for ya. I'm a tank now. would like some advice on a new chest pate:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34945#comments
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34939
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33522

Heard a lot about each, wowarmory me if you have to Realm- Auchindaun Toon- Moonzeal
also I'd like to know if you'd socket strait stam or what.

Spirit_Monger

05-05-2008, 09:31 PM

Thanks for the info everyone.
I'll just keep an eye out for a casual guild to try and start in and see what happens from there.

I was considering going for some of these guilds below since Exodus and OP would be out of my league right now for sure.

One Three Three Seven (http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Kel%27Thuzad&n=One+Three+Three+Seven&p=1)
Infected (http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Kel%27Thuzad&n=Infected&p=1)
Vinco Vici Victum (http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Kel%27Thuzad&n=Vinco+Vici+Victum&p=1)
Bellum Aeternus (http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Kel%27Thuzad&n=Bellum+Aeternus&p=1)

They aren't on par with Exodus or OP but I think they are more advanced so I doubt I'd get a start with raiding in one of them.

IPlayWoW

05-06-2008, 05:06 AM

Ig, judging by your current gear and stats I would say this one:

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34939

With a 12 stam blue gem in it. Or 15 stam if you have access to them.
You would probably benefit more from that one more than any. There's a shitload of stam on it and a nice amount of avoidance. You're already uncrittable but your overall avoidance is a little low. So yeah, I'd say take that one. And enchant it with either +15 def or +6 all stats.

Ignition

05-06-2008, 06:32 AM

Hmm yeah you see that's what I was also thinking... however. I am currently (as I have said before) grinding out thunderfury. which means the more spell dmg I can get the better. I still have better trinkets to get (the same could be said for the t2 badge ring) as well as to enchant many things...

Hm... I've got defense cap (I think) I've had some people say it's 490, others say it's over 500. what's your input here?

I guess what I'm really asking (because I need the spell dmg) is: is the t2 badge chest really that much of an upgrade over the first? socketed with the right gems it's hard to say. Fuck blizzard and their stupid spell hit :dry:
P.S. the pally plate has just as much stam :)

Warcow

05-06-2008, 10:08 AM

Ignition

05-06-2008, 10:23 AM

IMO they have nothing going for them but stam, damn squishies pffft if I was a boss mob I'd be like:
/crushing blow
/yell stfuROFLstomp droodnub now give me some thing I can really whack on like a pally tank >:C

I may be capped in the defense department but that doesn't mean I dont need more, in 2.4.2 they are going to be putting more points into dodge, block, and parry for the higher you're defense is so...

The Coder

05-06-2008, 01:39 PM

Pfft. If I was a boss I'd be liek

CRIT RATINGZ PLZ!

IPlayWoW

05-06-2008, 02:24 PM

Def cap is 491 for tankadins, actually :)

But you want to be around 500+ to be safe, as if you're borderline capped ( between 490-495 def), it is still possible to be critted.

You also want to be at about 50% avoidance unbuffed too. As holy shield and redoubt gives you full avoidance from there on.

As for the TF idea, my own thoughts on that is that it's a silly idea as tankadins NEED over 400 spell damage, and that is not do-able with TF. Thats my 2 cents, but eh, whatever floats your boat.

Also, the main reason I said that chest over the pally one is because of the extra avoidance as you lack in that department a bit. Spell hit is pretty pointless to be honest as cons rarely ever gets resisted, same with holy shield which is where their main threat is from, but yes, still good to have.

But yeah, the T2 badge chest is a better upgrade than the T1 one, so I'd say go for it.

I'm not a prot expert as my only prot pally experience is kara to rage winterchill, rest I've been holy/ret.

Also... GTFO WITH DROOD TANKS!

Saphira66

05-06-2008, 02:41 PM

I've never played WoW, but my girlfriend says that its a lot of fun. Like, what is WOW like, and what kinda stuff can you do on it ???

spencer 555

05-06-2008, 04:15 PM

IPlayWoW

05-06-2008, 05:46 PM

I've never played WoW, but my girlfriend says that its a lot of fun. Like, what is WOW like, and what kinda stuff can you do on it ???

Level to 70 making friends on the way then start killing shit together, basically.

Defence cap for tankadins is 490, no more no less although it doesnt hurt to be over the cap because defence provides some avoidance and its actually pretty hard to land right on the 490 without gimping yourself lol.

Just remember that you will need to be uncritable (490 def) and uncrushable (104%?) avoidance with the pally avoidance skills wich I am forgetting atm lol

As for spell hit, I think I read somewhere that spellhit is decent for offtank pallys but physical +hit ( ya I question this to ) is better for a main tank pally definately worth reading into. Just remember + hit for a tank is not absolutely neccessary unless u already have the stam/avoidance/defence to do the fights.

You're trying to correct me on a class im an expert with? Lol.
490 is NOT def cap for tankadins, 491 is... In fact the bare minimum cap on being uncrittable is actually 490.706 defense for tankadins, which of course is rounded UP, not down.
War uncrittable cap is 489.314 which is also rounded upto 490.
Spell hit is just not needed for the exact reason I stated. There's literally a 99% chance that your cons and holy shield will hit. Judgements hold no real TPS on them, so it really doesn't matter a shit if those get resisted or not. Also, physical hit is not needed either, but tanks of any class do require at least some expertise. The main threat caused by tankadins is from cons and holy shield. Judgements and white hits are just a bonus bit of TPS.
Might wanna check your tankadin sources ;)

The Coder

05-06-2008, 06:45 PM

Aye. Expertise holds a lot more weight than hit does, especially when you can be parried. It's only like 26 expertise worth to be dodge cap'd (I think), but it's a hella lot moar to be parry capped, even though that's only tank needed.

Honestly, there's no real need to talk about the defense cap. You're going to go over it as a warrior/paladin. There's no question about that.

Hit rating (Of both kinds) are both beneficial to paladin TPS generation, however, not exactly essential to it. They've got a good bit from talents (3% for both) and holy doesn't use standard resists (I know binary, and something else special aboot it) (And Canadia, something special aboot thar too)

IPlayWoW

05-07-2008, 03:43 AM

Either way I'm stoked. Got my legplates from Brutallus last night :cool:

Edit: Item... http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34180

spencer 555

05-07-2008, 07:04 AM

You're trying to correct me on a class im an expert with? Lol.

I'm not a prot expert as my only prot pally experience is kara to rage winterchill, rest I've been holy/ret.

See what u did just their? lul

On a serious note, I didnt actually read your post about prot pallyness until after u posted the stuff about me trying to correct u or something. Your probably right about all this but I would advise Ignition to get his information from people who actually do the math to find this stuff out. I usually read articles about several classes on elitist jerks and whatnot when Im bored so I was really just trying to share my knowlege on the subject. Apparently, I was incorrect :(

Gl ignition hope u find what your looking for.

The Coder

05-07-2008, 01:33 PM

Either way I'm stoked. Got my legplates from Brutallus last night :cool:

Edit: Item... http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34180

Excellent. I'm guessing they are going to be socketed with +10 strength gems?

Haste is by far the funnest stat if you ask me, too bad there's no +melee haste gems out thar.

IPlayWoW

05-07-2008, 05:48 PM

Haven't gemmed them yet as we're going to hyjal tomorrow and completely out of stock for the gems I want :(
Hopefully, a few will come out of the nodes as we usually clear hyjal in a night now so maybe I'll get lucky. If they do drop then I will have them because I'm first on priority for new gems now.
I'm so ninja'ing the main hand claw of molten fury if it drops tomorrow (yes, I get to steal rogue/shammy/warrior 1h'ers for pvp, lol).

Spirit_Monger

05-08-2008, 10:02 PM

Economy on my server has sucked the past few days.
I'm down like 350G, so I usually only have 100G each day.
If people would actually buy the plans I bought, I'd easily make the 350G by selling one of them, which I don't think is overpriced.

I know risk = reward, so I'm just hoping this risk wont take forever. :p

I MaFiA I

05-08-2008, 10:17 PM

lol nerds.

The Coder

05-08-2008, 10:42 PM

Kinda funny, some t5 guild wondered why they couldn't down brutallus.

Ignition

05-09-2008, 07:50 AM

Defence cap for tankadins is 490, no more no less although it doesnt hurt to be over the cap because defence provides some avoidance and its actually pretty hard to land right on the 490 without gimping yourself lol.

Just remember that you will need to be uncritable (490 def) and uncrushable (104%?) avoidance with the pally avoidance skills wich I am forgetting atm lol

As for spell hit, I think I read somewhere that spellhit is decent for offtank pallys but physical +hit ( ya I question this to ) is better for a main tank pally definately worth reading into. Just remember + hit for a tank is not absolutely neccessary unless u already have the stam/avoidance/defence to do the fights.
So basicly you just told me what I already know and what Iplay told me again any ways.

Gl ignition hope u find what your looking for.
yeah... I've had it for the better part of a week now, but thanks?

yeah and Iplay, about TF. I'm almost always offtank, plus I have/getting a lot of spell dmg. No worries there.

Woodland

05-09-2008, 10:03 AM

lol nerds.
Sorry Mr. 'I'm a badass you can tell from my avatar'. Noob.

Besides, being a nerd has better benefits than attemptions at insults over the internet.

Ok... Rant over. =]

At the moment for me, I'm gearing my 70 druid for Kara and leveling an UD Rogue. For my druid is the only way to get Earthwarden doing SV/Armament gathering?

Ignition

05-09-2008, 10:50 AM

Stay with your drood.

Basicly in raid Droods/Shammys/Pallies are OP. Even more so if you've got the gear for each spec.

I tanked High king last night (for fun) then respecked heals for Gruuls because our #2 healer man ninja logged on us. Got some noob a DST

Woodland

05-09-2008, 12:00 PM

Yeah, just time that's all. Like in every other damn situation time is everything. Ugh.

IPlayWoW

05-09-2008, 06:13 PM

yeah and Iplay, about TF. I'm almost always offtank, plus I have/getting a lot of spell dmg. No worries there.

Ah fair enough then. If you ain't MT you don't need quite as much, so yeah, maybe a good idea after all hehe.

At the moment for me, I'm gearing my 70 druid for Kara and leveling an UD Rogue. For my druid is the only way to get Earthwarden doing SV/Armament gathering?

Simple and short answer... Yes. And heroic CFR instances too. Better loot, more rep and a lot more fun. As fun as 5 mans can be, that is.

And has anyone here ever leveled an enhancement shaman? God, mines 42 and already so overpowered. Managed to pull off a burst of 2132 dmg earlier, 1 shotted a lvl 44 mob in Tanaris, and I thought ret pallies could burst high :confused:

The Coder

05-09-2008, 07:46 PM

And has anyone here ever leveled an enhancement shaman? God, mines 42 and already so overpowered. Managed to pull off a burst of 2132 dmg earlier, 1 shotted a lvl 44 mob in Tanaris, and I thought ret pallies could burst high :confused:

Yea, I leveled all specs, any questions?

It's pretty fun, until you get to where people are getting skill enough to kite well, or stunlock well, etc... I mean once they can play their class, it gets lame quick.

IPlayWoW

05-09-2008, 07:57 PM

Aye obviously. I've always been one of those people who look at the so called underdogs of the pvp world, make one and completely rip up the whole pvp world as that class. So I'm just learning how to play enhance shaman on my own really, work out combos etc myself. Soon one way or another, I'll find a way to batter stuff quickly and efficiently :p

Oh btw... pally now: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Eonar&n=Thorstein :wub:

Though, maybe I should get back to mongoose, executioner is kinda gay.

Spirit_Monger

05-09-2008, 08:19 PM

How many 70's do you have, IPlay?

I MaFiA I

05-09-2008, 08:43 PM

Sorry Mr. 'I'm a badass you can tell from my avatar'. Noob.

Besides, being a nerd has better benefits than attemptions at insults over the internet.

Ok... Rant over. =]

At the moment for me, I'm gearing my 70 druid for Kara and leveling an UD Rogue. For my druid is the only way to get Earthwarden doing SV/Armament gathering?

Attemptions isn't a word. Also, you still have your virginity, and you're like 29. kys...

IPlayWoW

05-09-2008, 08:48 PM

How many 70's do you have, IPlay?

Uhm...
3 pallys, lock, rogue, hunter, mage, shaman (soon :p)
All ranging from T4-Sunwell :confused:
Next I want a warrior... maybe...
Damn, sometimes I think I need a life.
Focusing mainly on Thorstein (Name changed btw), due to that's the char that's progressing most atm. Plus, it's a lot more fun being in SWP than anywhere else. When I ain't raiding on that, I'm chinese style leveling my shaman. 42 in 2 days played.

Btw mafia, wood is 14 or 15, fyi.

Spirit_Monger

05-09-2008, 09:06 PM

I'm at 64 on my warlock only still. Though I haven't played other than messing around on the AH for the past few days.

Do you level with or without professions?

Sniper Master

05-09-2008, 09:15 PM

Wow....42 in two days? It took me like 3 months to get to 70.... =/

The Coder

05-09-2008, 09:23 PM

Attemptions isn't a word. Also, you still have your virginity, and you're like 29. kys...

I lol'd at you.

I MaFiA I

05-09-2008, 09:53 PM

I lol'd at you.

Your popularity in real life must be at it's peak.

IPlayWoW

05-09-2008, 09:54 PM

I'm at 64 on my warlock only still. Though I haven't played other than messing around on the AH for the past few days.

Do you level with or without professions?

Always with.
Currently skinning and leatherworking on my shammy. Though I'm joining The Logical Cube with that too so gear will be easy to pick up quickly, but eh, I want the primalstrike set regardless (rogue leather set) on it. What I do is skin loads and loads of leather, mail it to 1 of my 3 bank chars and hold it all in there to get it 1-375 in a day or so. I already know the mats to do it and the amount I need due to having LW 3 times already. 300 skinning at 42 though, no more skill points til 50 :(
1-42 in 2d 4h played is slow for me tbh. My record is 40 in a day and a half played, but I'm leveling with a TLC member (he's leveling a resto shammy) so the grinded xp is split, but we plow through quests extremely fast.

Wisher

05-09-2008, 09:55 PM

mafia your not funny. get out of the thread if you have nothing relating to the topic.

Damnn iplay, you level fast.

I MaFiA I

05-09-2008, 09:58 PM

mafia your not funny. get out of the thread if you have nothing relating to the topic.

Damnn iplay, you level fast.

I am clearly not attempting humor, you kids that wake up and play WoW without doing any hygiene activities or social activities first are straight up nerds. You probably log on off of instinct, and you dont have to even think up your password anymore, its second nature to you weirdos.

"hai letz kill t3h golem warlord so we can get t3h banshee obsidian godhammer yayz". How embarassing. I hope your parents dont know they raised a failure.

Now please, take away my green, if i still have green after posting this i give up.

IPlayWoW

05-09-2008, 10:00 PM

Well, look at how many 70s I have. They're both horde and alliance too, majority alliance though. So I know every single quest for max xp by heart also. Also, the exact co ords for them too. I get called a walking wowwiki by guildies =/
But to be honest, I don't care really, leveling is the lame part of wow, so I tend to get it done and over with as quickly and painless as possible. Got accused of botting today too, because today did 35-42, so yeah, lol. Plus, enhancement shamans are ridiculously fast killers. Hunters and rogues got nothing on em.
Also, mafia, I'll say this once and only once...
GET A CLUE OR GET THE FUCK OUT.

Wisher

05-09-2008, 10:07 PM

I am clearly not attempting humor, you kids that wake up and play WoW without doing any hygiene activities or social activities first are straight up nerds. You probably log on off of instinct, and you dont have to even think up your password anymore, its second nature to you weirdos.

"hai letz kill t3h golem warlord so we can get t3h banshee obsidian godhammer yayz". How embarassing. I hope your parents dont know they raised a failure.

Now please, take away my green, if i still have green after posting this i give up.

Knowing a password makes us nerds? Really? Cause i guarantee almost every person you meet will remember a password for something. And that's not how people talk, your just typical and basic with your shitty insults.

bye

IPlayWoW

05-09-2008, 10:10 PM

"hai letz kill t3h golem warlord so we can get t3h banshee obsidian godhammer yayz". How embarassing. I hope your parents dont know they raised a failure.

I just reread that and still haven't got any clue as to what it's meant to mean. I'm guessing it's some sort of lame and epicly failed insult to wow, right?

I MaFiA I

05-09-2008, 10:32 PM

I just reread that and still haven't got any clue as to what it's meant to mean. I'm guessing it's some sort of lame and epicly failed insult to wow, right?

Ok sorry, ill google "WoW weapons" and get the correct nerd term, because in your sick and socially defective brain, the real terminology in WoW is not nerdy, but the words i used in my other posts were "lame and epicly failed". Nice.

IPlayWoW

05-09-2008, 10:36 PM

I MaFiA I

05-09-2008, 10:43 PM

I hope you realise, with the arguements you are putting forward as to what people who play wow are like/how they act, whatever you want to call it, just makes you look more "nerdy" than we do, right?
We don't go around trying and failing to insult people who play a game.
Yes like omg you spend a few hours a day playing a game, you has no life dude! :dry:
Seriously, come up with something new. Like something aimed directly at the person themself other than them playing a certain game.
You fail at life. Please do us all a favor you whiny little nigger and jump off a cliff.
Yes, I resorted to racism :eek: Shit happens.

Haha, try again nerd. I have had Xbox Live since '05. A white boy calling me over the internet is about as offensive to me as calling me by my first name. Not only that, there is a 99.99% chance i would make you completely blank out in 1 jab to the nose, so I know you're only defense is through the computer. Do me a favor. Practice getting me off my square (in your nerd ass language, that means try to get me angry) while you're training your cleric paladin knight to level 100 ok?

Wisher

05-09-2008, 10:45 PM

*Clap* That was amazing iplay.

Edit: Didn't see that..mafia cleric paladin knight, just no. You probably aren't even laughing at your own joke

I MaFiA I

05-09-2008, 10:49 PM

*Clap* That was amazing iplay.

Edit: Didn't see that..mafia cleric paladin knight, just no. You probably aren't even laughing at your own joke

It wasnt a joke. I swear to God i have no idea what you the lil classes and species are in WoW. None of my laptops can run WoW without going slow as hell, so even if i wanted to play that nerd ass game, i couldnt.

IPlayWoW

05-09-2008, 10:50 PM

Yeah sure, I'll go level my cleric paladin knight to 100.
So, let me get this straight, you call us nerds, people who play a game, yep, while you sit here and miserably try to insult us? I wonder who seems like more of a nerd right about now. So you realise, people who play wow, apart from those who actually do treat it as a lifestyle of course, are generally a lot more sociable than a lot of people who play other games. I'll have you know that actually, a lot of people who are hardcore end game raiders actually work, go to college, hang out with friends what have you and raid for a few hours in the evening. But, then again, you wouldn't know about this kind of thing as we're such nerds and you aren't while you're out "tapping ass". You really need to get an idea of what you're talking about before you start yelling out a bunch of bullshit which makes you look like a total fool.

*Clap* That was amazing iplay.

Nice sarcasm <3

endless

05-09-2008, 10:51 PM

Just set him to ignore guys, I don't even bother reading his posts anymore.

Wisher

05-09-2008, 10:53 PM

you need to stop calling it a nerd game mafia. It's not a nerd game i think 9 million + people play it, are theyall nerds? Nope.

IPlayWoW

05-09-2008, 10:53 PM

Aye, that could work, but then I wouldn't be able to laugh at his constant fails :(

I MaFiA I

05-09-2008, 11:32 PM

you need to stop calling it a nerd game mafia. It's not a nerd game i think 9 million + people play it, are theyall nerds? Nope.

Yes. J/k but out of those 9 million accounts i bet only 1million or less nerd it up all day without taking showers and shit. I have NOTHING against WoW itself (Hell, i played Runescape on and off for 3 years (and still would if they didnt take out pking...nothing wrong with playing a fun online RPG) i just cant stand the weirdos who live eat and sleep WoW...You really think its cool to go online and talk about your Brumak death god armour on a forum? Seriously?

The Coder

05-09-2008, 11:36 PM

Yes. J/k but out of those 9 million accounts i bet only 1million or less nerd it up all day without taking showers and shit. I have NOTHING against WoW itself (Hell, i played Runescape on and off for 3 years (and still would if they didnt take out pking...nothing wrong with playing a fun online RPG) i just cant stand the weirdos who live eat and sleep WoW...You really think its cool to go online and talk about your Brumak death god armour on a forum? Seriously?

MOAR ETG SHITZ!!!!!

Lonely Tylenol

05-09-2008, 11:46 PM

You fail at life. Please do us all a favor you whiny little http://media1.fxhome.com/plugin-images/1104/thumbnail and jump off a cliff.
Yes, I resorted to racism :eek: Shit happens.

I was wondering what MaFiA was talking about.

Uncool, man. Either chill out or grow up, and if those fail, kindly remove yourself before a moderator is forced to.

bloodreign

05-10-2008, 01:28 AM

"Yah see here ... zuluman like trolls , especialy the internet kind..."

*fart*

Woodland

05-10-2008, 03:14 AM

Attemptions isn't a word. Also, you still have your virginity, and you're like 29. kys...
:bigsmile:

I still <3 your jokes. If you glanced at my profile you'd know it says 16. Weird eh? And assumption of my virginity makes you fail more because you're proberly embarassed about not losing yours yet.

<3'ed the Cleric Paladin Knight thing, made me laugh a lot.
I am clearly not attempting humor, you kids that wake up and play WoW without doing any hygiene activities or social activities first are straight up nerds. You probably log on off of instinct, and you dont have to even think up your password anymore, its second nature to you weirdos.

"hai letz kill t3h golem warlord so we can get t3h banshee obsidian godhammer yayz". How embarassing. I hope your parents dont know they raised a failure.

Now please, take away my green, if i still have green after posting this i give up.
I'd hate too be the father of you nevermind speaking of our parents. I'm sure I can gurantee each one of us live a good life and just play WoW time to time out of pure choice. Like you even said yourself out of 9 million only 1 million are nerds. I wonder if we're that part or the 8 million part who still socalize, because I know I do.
Yes. J/k but out of those 9 million accounts i bet only 1million or less nerd it up all day without taking showers and shit. I have NOTHING against WoW itself (Hell, i played Runescape on and off for 3 years (and still would if they didnt take out pking...nothing wrong with playing a fun online RPG) i just cant stand the weirdos who live eat and sleep WoW...You really think its cool to go online and talk about your Brumak death god armour on a forum? Seriously?
I actually thought you was being nice then. Yeah we do a General Discussion about a game. But there's an Xbox Live thread aswell does that make them nerds by saying 'Yay I'm lvl 50 now woop!'? I don't know. It'd be best if you kept your own opinion to yourself because none of us care. And you fail.
"Yah see here ... zuluman like trolls , especialy the internet kind..."

*fart*
I got asked to tank ZA, but I'm not geared for it. Not even done Kara yet. ;)

IPlayWoW

05-10-2008, 04:46 AM

I'd hate too be the father of you nevermind speaking of our parents. I'm sure I can gurantee each one of us live a good life and just play WoW time to time out of pure choice. Like you even said yourself out of 9 million only 1 million are nerds. I wonder if we're that part or the 8 million part who still socalize, because I know I do.

No wood, you have no lifez!

Woodland

05-10-2008, 06:53 AM

QQ. :(

IPlayWoW

05-10-2008, 10:44 AM

We all have no life and are nerds apparently! Stop QQing! ;)

Spirit_Monger

05-10-2008, 02:12 PM

35-42 in a day... pretty awesome.
I can't even average a level in a day in Outland. :p

I'm sure if you wrote up some guides you could make some decent money off of them. At least enough to pay for an account subscription each month I'd think.

And yeah, just ignore him guys. You don't need to set him to ignore, but if you don't bother to reply to him he wont have any reason to post in here as much. :p
If he needs to use the internet to insult people so he feels better about himself, just let him. ;)

endless

05-10-2008, 05:56 PM

I got asked to tank ZA, but I'm not geared for it. Not even done Kara yet. ;)
I was DPS'ing kara 24 hours after i went 70. :p

The Coder

05-10-2008, 07:14 PM

Long as your well geared, it's not that hard for most classes to do so. I mean yea, a caster will have it harder than a melee class will, because they need to be spell hit capped / near spell hit capped.

IPlayWoW

05-10-2008, 08:56 PM

As do melee need to be at least halfway to being hitcapped.
2h melee is easy to be hitcapped as it's the same for all. 85-95 hit and you're capped.
Oh, and shaman is now 47, still leveling him atm, nearly 48.

Spirit_Monger

05-10-2008, 09:42 PM

You'll have to share your methods. :p

You will probably hit 70 on the shaman before I hit 70 on my currently 64 warlock.

Wisher

05-10-2008, 09:50 PM

I was with this 49 druid in wsg on my priest today..she was full balance and the only enchant she had was 81 heals to weap (I think, there might of been others)

She got 42 kills 0 deaths before i left. Horde were turtling so blech

IPlayWoW

05-10-2008, 09:58 PM

Nelf hunters and nelf druids, I totally fucking hate them when I'm playing as horde. If I see them in any type of pvp I make damn sure I nuke those down before anything else. Nothing personal against the person, except maybe that they rolled a nelf hunter/druid. Ugh, I hate them so much :dry:

48 now btw :p
But there's nothing special to it, I just know the best xp rate quests by heart and the exact location of where they are. Plus its enhancement + resto shaman combo, we hurt like hell so we get things done pretty quick.

The Coder

05-10-2008, 11:07 PM

Nelf hunters I hate, especially because they all think it's a clever / smart combo, but I don't mind Nelf druids as much.

Spirit_Monger

05-11-2008, 12:27 AM

All alliance is annoying to me ...
Nelf and Gnomes especially.

I might go back to affliction on my lock and see how I do then. Felguard works well and is in no way inefficient, but the affliction method did seem quicker for whatever reason, and it's nice not having to control my pet half the time.
Maybe this (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVMriRfzqtbofxc0I) build.

IPlayWoW

05-11-2008, 05:54 AM

I'd say follow the pve raiding affi spec really. It's high damage and decent survivability, especially with felpuppy/voidy.

Spirit_Monger

05-11-2008, 10:32 AM

PvE spec is like this (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IEzrbRfzqtcobxczIb) isn't it?

I thought about that but I like the drain tanking for leveling more. For just leveling I don't think I'd really need 5/5 Suppression and 3/3 Malediction since I won't be using those curses much and 5/5 Fel Concentration helps a ton for the DT'ing.
Destro spec would still be too mana inefficient, don't feel like running some type of sl/sl build, and demo is boring for me.

spencer 555

05-11-2008, 11:59 PM

I rolled my NE hunter because of the whole LotR legolas thing and im not afraid to admit it! Love me or hate me.. I still rip faces =D

spencer 555

05-12-2008, 12:02 AM

Ignition

05-12-2008, 06:49 AM

I still want to know why you tards keep insisting on rolling huntards.

IPlayWoW

05-12-2008, 07:23 AM

Zomg pet :dry:

Ignition

05-12-2008, 07:31 AM

No I mean really. I've seen Mag, Gruuls and COUNTLESS (I help lowbie runs if I'm bored) trash pulled by pets not on passive. Or getting roflstomped in fire patches/cave ins then guess what? the huntard is even more useless then he/she was to begin with.

if your going to do ranged DPS plz go caster and leave the arrows/bullets to people who can play the game -_-"

IPlayWoW

05-12-2008, 07:34 AM

Exactly the thought I had. So many nabs don't have a clue how to play hunter in raids efficiently, it's ridiculous. Learn to play or gtfo I say. That's why I put hunter through an even more grueling test than other classes for my guild.

spencer 555

05-12-2008, 12:16 PM

I actually have pretty much every class at 70, my huntard is just my favourite.

Good huntards are very hard to come by, I pugged a heroic SV last night with some terribad MM hunter who didnt know how to do anything. I didnt see a single misdirection the entire duration of our run, he insisted that his trap lasted only 10 seconds even though the tooltip clearly says 20 (on top of that he didnt know how to chain trap, silence shot casters to pull them into the trap and he kept breaking his own trap with melee and polymorph with w/e he was doing) he killed his pet almost 3 times before he realised growl was on and then exclaimed that his pet was useless because he was MM. He pulled off the tank about 100 times and then feigned death making it a tanking nightmare. After telling me the reason why he was pulling so much was because he had 1900 ap and 27% crit and he was overly geared for the instance I told him to get omen and he asked me, whats omen?? -.- I also pointed out that I had 2.2k ap and 32% crit as BM (at least 300 ap less then what I would have as MM) and that I hadnt pulled a single time with 40% of the damage and 1200 sustained dps (600 more dps then what he managed to pull off).

Luckily our healer was amazing and our tank could hold his own, we managed to make it through the instance without wiping, their were however several close calls because of that terrible huntard. All in all I completely agree with the generic "hunters are bad, especially NE hunters" frame of mind because they seem to roll in packs along with the pvp locks who use siphon life on trash because they think the more dots they have on the mob the more damage they will do...

Duraza

05-12-2008, 12:17 PM

I...
played about 5 minutes of the 15-day demo.
It was like a bulked-up runescape. Fun for a bit, but the cyberers/level hoes got to me.

spencer 555

05-12-2008, 12:23 PM

I...
played about 5 minutes of the 15-day demo.
It was like a bulked-up runescape. Fun for a bit, but the cyberers/level hoes got to me.

Unless u play wow we dont wanna hear your oppinion of the game.

Duraza

05-12-2008, 12:27 PM

so basically your an occultist group of WoW players who only want to hear the opinion of those who are other occultist WoW players?

I liked it for what time I played it. It's just I didn't have the money or the patience to deal with another RuneScape.

spencer 555

05-12-2008, 12:36 PM

So for 5 minutes, u liked it?? All this tells me is u have a very short attention span. This thread is for wow discussion not "hey guys I played this game once it was ok but w/e kthxbye Im going to go do something over their :o". If you have something relevant to say, say it, but your oppinion wont be appreciated if you just randomly enter discussions with no intention of adding anything to it.

Also runescape was brutal, the only similarities between the two games is the crappy backround music and the fact that they are both MMOs.

Duraza

05-12-2008, 12:39 PM

Relevant?
I added my opinion, which you quoted. It was too similiar to RuneScape. I played WoW far longer than 5 minutes, that was an underexaggeration which I thought perhaps the thread readers would pick up. And yes my attention span is very short...that's why I play TAO >.<

So if you'd prefer a different approach that may add something to your thread more than what I've already posted (not to flame you I hope you know :)):

I dislike WoW because it perverts the definition of "RPing". The players who are there to powerlevel far more than dominate the small few who actually RP.

spencer 555

05-12-2008, 01:09 PM

I dislike WoW because it perverts the definition of "RPing". The players who are there to powerlevel far more than dominate the small few who actually RP.

Not tru at all. Gold farmers and powerlevelers are completely dwarfed by the number of people who actually play wow, I can assure u this speaking from experience. Their are about 9 million ( I think thats the number ) people who actually play wow on real accounts. 1/4 of wich ( not quite tru but we'll say that because their are 4 different types of servers) play on RP servers where they can do w/e fantasy crap they want to do lol.

Warcraft is a series of games with so much back story and lore you would have to be clueless to say that their is no RP aspect to the game. Your oppinion is completely biased because you have not SERIOUSLY played WoW for the amount of time it takes to even formulate an appropriate oppinion. On top of that you dont seem to me like the person who plays games for the RP aspect. Someone with a short attention span doesnt generally enjoy creating and developping a character story and his backround like a tru RPer would do if they played WoW. I dont think what your telling us is in fact your personal oppinion of the game. Your just trying to make your initial immature, bad post sound less stupid and arrogant.

The Coder

05-12-2008, 01:27 PM

Duraza, seriously, shut the fuck up.

The game doesn't get good until later on, so honestly, don't judge it by the first few levels.

kthnxbi

Woodland

05-12-2008, 04:41 PM

Lvl 1 Spam in Org ftw.

The Coder

05-12-2008, 05:09 PM

Seriously, I mean one of my friends was going off today about how WoW PvP required no skill because you didn't have to aim for your opponents...

Liquid Swordsman

05-12-2008, 06:13 PM

runescape owns, the new graphics are gonna be sweet :cool:

The Coder

05-12-2008, 08:52 PM

runescape owns, the new graphics are gonna be sweet :cool:

I lol'd. I remember back when I played and they promised new graphics. And then I realized, oh wait this is just shitty java they can't do anything to really improve the quality of this game.

IPlayWoW

05-13-2008, 04:23 AM

I also pointed out that I had 2.2k ap and 32% crit as BM (at least 300 ap less then what I would have as MM) and that I hadnt pulled a single time with 40% of the damage and 1200 sustained dps (600 more dps then what he managed to pull off).

So, what you're saying is you're a BT/MH/T6 geared BM hunter? Because with that AP and sustained dps, you must be. Care to elaborate your claims? :)

Edit: You would also have about 500 AP less than you would as MM including TSA and hawk, actually.

AlabamaBoy

05-13-2008, 09:29 AM

Mmmm... I love my shammy's burst damage.

But I can beat most anything with my lock, and my sham gets owned by stealthers.

:-P

IPlayWoW

05-13-2008, 09:57 AM

Shammy burst has nothing on ret pally burst.
And I can tell you most classes are capable of burning locks down quite easily if they know how to play.

AlabamaBoy

05-13-2008, 10:31 AM

:P

I have yet to see that.

Ignition

05-13-2008, 11:23 AM

I'm Ret ATM, care for a demonstration? I crited Van for over 5k last night

IPlayWoW

05-13-2008, 11:38 AM

AlabamaBoy

05-13-2008, 11:41 AM

I'll take you up on that negnition.

Just let me put on my SL/SL.

And when the server comes back up...

Can't cast turn evil when you're silenced can ya?

IPlayWoW

05-13-2008, 11:42 AM

Rofl, any pally who needs to fear the demon utterly fails.
SL/SL also doesn't exactly help that much on pally bursts, we hurt way too much for it to have much of an effect.

AlabamaBoy

05-13-2008, 11:44 AM

My playing ability is good, coupled with an OP class, I'll be okay against him.

Most players NEVER even touch me in a fight.

The occasional hunter gets me to 70%.

The only time I have real trouble is with sub rogues.

One in S3 took me down.

Ignition

05-13-2008, 12:51 PM

Exactly, I make a pasttime of 1 shotting locks on my pally. Hell, I even have a pasttime of 1 shotting 400+ resi warriors in my pve gear as retri.
Get out with your silly clothies.
Also, I said if they know how to play, how many people KNOW how to play their class to the absolute max?
Oh and Ig, go away with your 5k's, get in SWP and steal warrior gear, you'll be doing 10k's instead ;)

I know how to play my class no worries there. Also, you'll have to keep in mind that I'm not in an end game raiding guild. this is in budget gear... Silly low pop severs :\

spencer 555

05-13-2008, 12:55 PM

So, what you're saying is you're a BT/MH/T6 geared BM hunter? Because with that AP and sustained dps, you must be. Care to elaborate your claims? :)

Edit: You would also have about 500 AP less than you would as MM including TSA and hawk, actually.

Im not a BT/MH/T6 BM hunter, I just have a lot of sicknasty badge gear =D

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Executus&n=Spiderrider

In the instance run I got BoM and the TSA buff wich put me above 2.2k ap

Its definately not 500 ap but it is a significant increase 300+ for sure

Next time I do an instance Ill try to remember to take an ss of my recount report so you can see my leetness :).

On a side note... HUNTER BURST PWNZORS, I tottally just crit that prot pally for 600 with my aimed shot today

edit: I could take on any ret pally with a lock 1v1... ANY

The Coder

05-13-2008, 01:21 PM

Personally, my favourite ranged class is an SV hunter... BM just seems so bland if you ask me.

IPlayWoW

05-13-2008, 01:39 PM

I know how to play my class no worries there. Also, you'll have to keep in mind that I'm not in an end game raiding guild. this is in budget gear... Silly low pop severs :\

Hehe, I know, I was playing around. Imo, hardcore raid guilds are overrated sometimes. Yeah, at the end of the day, the reward for being in one and attending the raid does pay off, WoW wise at least. I really couldn't care for it much these days, I enjoy killing bosses and getting shiny things for it, but god it gets tiring. Btw... M'uru dowwwwwnnn!! As of 17 minutes ago.

And yeah, fair enough spencer, 2.4 badge welfare epics do give crazy good stats because they gave heroics and kara whores easy sunwell loot.

Alabama, I haven't personally lost to a lock as retri since lvl 60 or so. Reckon you could actually change that? :p

The Coder

05-13-2008, 02:07 PM

Gratz... It's kinda sad, some moron persisted that because M'uru had not been killed on his server, he had not been killed ever.

IPlayWoW

05-13-2008, 03:07 PM

Haha, fag.
*impatiently waits for access to KJ to spank him a couple days after world first*

S3RO

05-13-2008, 03:52 PM

Anyone play on medivh?

Megabyte

05-13-2008, 03:54 PM

I like the new video clips for the WoTLK, particularly aerial combat.

Liquid Swordsman

05-13-2008, 08:58 PM

I lol'd. I remember back when I played and they promised new graphics. And then I realized, oh wait this is just shitty java they can't do anything to really improve the quality of this game.

they posted an image of the new graphics already :rolleyes:

Megabyte

05-13-2008, 09:04 PM

http://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com/

spencer 555

05-13-2008, 10:19 PM

ignore this post comp got all messed ujp

The Coder

05-13-2008, 10:26 PM

I like the new video clips for the WoTLK, particularly aerial combat.

Ye... Gonna make hunters even more OP than ever :P

Megabyte

05-13-2008, 10:55 PM

Also like to comment on the huge hunter buff in arena =D we got an instant fear from 30 yards on those pesky resto druids now :) cant wait to try it out this week, I dont doubt me and my partner can crack 2k now and get me my shoulders :P.

It's not instant, try casting it ;)

They removed the instant part, making it still 1.5 sec cast. The instant marking is technically a bug since they were too lazy to adjust the patch before release for the tooltip, and just hotfixed it.

spencer 555

05-13-2008, 10:58 PM

Lookin for some advice on the 5th boss in ZA seems to me like hunters just arent made for this fight at all

1- we cant heal ourself during the soulsiphon thing
2- our cc isnt as nice as the other spammable cc the other people have
3- our pet gets killed no matter what
4- we have no o shit iceblock/bubble/cloak of shadows mitigation

Am I boned for this fight? all Im really good for here is a misdirection to the OT when an add pops up if Im not already dead :s.

My guild currently has the first 4 bosses on fa/rm but we currently dont have the numbers to pull off the right group mix for this fight (om/g 2 pally healers ><) Just wondering if I should volunteer to sub myself out so that someone who can hybrid heal during the soulsiphon and whatnot can come in my place.

Also like to comment on the huge hunter buff in arena =D we got an instant fear from 30 yards on those pesky resto druids now :) cant wait to try it out this week, I dont doubt me and my partner can crack 2k now and get me my shoulders :P.

Personally, my favourite ranged class is an SV hunter... BM just seems so bland if you ask me.

I dont mind surv but atm with my gear BM is really the only viable specc to choose from for raiding, surv and MM are absolute garbage dps, less mana efficient and pull more threat then BM with the right rotation. Im sure when I get 1k+ agility I will be tempted to raid surv but till then BM is quite fun. On the pvp side surv rapes battle grounds and is actualy pretty decent for double dps teams, I have a friend who has a 2.2k rated 2v2 team with a rogue as a surv hunter

And yeah, fair enough spencer, 2.4 badge welfare epics do give crazy good stats because they gave heroics and kara whores easy sunwell loot.

typical sunwell raider response to badge pvp gear :P

In all honesty my guild would probably be doing bosses in BT atm if we could just get a core group of people who show up to every raid.. Ive seriously thought of joining the more hardcore guilds on my server on several occasions but in all honesty I dont feel like being carried through all the content. Im sure if youve ever tried to lead a guild and progress through the content for real you would understand how hard it is to get people to show up for raids at the beggining and whatnot. Sure we may have it more easy then u because of all the wellfare epics but all this does is speed up the process before WoTLK comes out. As of last week we have mag down but we arent going to start SSC/TK until we finish up in ZA and can guarantee a full guild run of said 25 mans.

Its hard to find decent people who know how to play on a server that has like 10 guilds in BT/sunwell. I guarantee u more then half tthe people who make it to 70 on my server join those guilds and get their hand held while they get the "wellfare epix" from BT by the guilds that have these places on farm. Ive even seen people pay the top guilds gold to go on a raid with them and get some phat lootz its pretty ridiculous.. /end rant

Grats on muruu and GL on kil jaedan btw. I realise this post is kinda sour toward u, I just dislike the way some hardcore guildies react to badge loot. You do seem like u have an actual guild (not one that runs people through BT for money) though and I bet uve suffered through all the crappy clan drama that is prone to real progression and I respect that.

spencer 555

05-13-2008, 11:07 PM

Ye... Gonna make hunters even more OP than ever :P

I cant say hunters were ever OP for arena.

But I think this is pushing it =D

your gonna start seeing a lot more hunter/druid teams in the high brackets with this buff :p

Megabyte

05-13-2008, 11:17 PM

your gonna start seeing a lot more hunter/druid teams in the high brackets with this buff :p

once again...

try casting it (or read the patch notes)...

it's not instant, only range extended to 30 yards

IPlayWoW

05-14-2008, 03:58 AM

typical sunwell raider response to badge pvp gear :P

In all honesty my guild would probably be doing bosses in BT atm if we could just get a core group of people who show up to every raid.. Ive seriously thought of joining the more hardcore guilds on my server on several occasions but in all honesty I dont feel like being carried through all the content. Im sure if youve ever tried to lead a guild and progress through the content for real you would understand how hard it is to get people to show up for raids at the beggining and whatnot. Sure we may have it more easy then u because of all the wellfare epics but all this does is speed up the process before WoTLK comes out. As of last week we have mag down but we arent going to start SSC/TK until we finish up in ZA and can guarantee a full guild run of said 25 mans.

Its hard to find decent people who know how to play on a server that has like 10 guilds in BT/sunwell. I guarantee u more then half tthe people who make it to 70 on my server join those guilds and get their hand held while they get the "wellfare epix" from BT by the guilds that have these places on farm. Ive even seen people pay the top guilds gold to go on a raid with them and get some phat lootz its pretty ridiculous.. /end rant

Grats on muruu and GL on kil jaedan btw. I realise this post is kinda sour toward u, I just dislike the way some hardcore guildies react to badge loot. You do seem like u have an actual guild (not one that runs people through BT for money) though and I bet uve suffered through all the crappy clan drama that is prone to real progression and I respect that.

Well, I am actually GM of the number 1 guild on an EU server, we've cleared everything upto sunwell and are attempting SWP. I know how hard it is to get people to show up, get good players etc etc. Though, I have sort of abandoned it atm and put myself as "away" for now while I progress through sunwell on my pally on EonarEU. The officers are doing a fine job running the guild and I'm not the raid leader when I'm there anyway, I just go along to the raids and let the raid leader decide what happens, what bosses we're going to do what have you.
But really, look at badge loot from our point of view. We go to the raids, we down the bosses and work our asses off to progress for the same quality loot you can get via badges. Surely you can see how much that pisses the top raid guilds off. The 2.4 badge loot is pretty much on par with the sunwell loot itself. Yes, it might help progression for WotLK, but, at the same time they did this whole opening the door for boss access in SWP because progress is extremely fast for top raid guilds and 2 digit ranked world top guilds. I mean, Felmyst was downed the day after 2.4 was released on EU realms, and still before any US realms who had PTR practice and a days headstart. EU progress is so much better than US progress worldwide. The guild I'm in on Eonar, is somewhere like top 20 world rank guilds, because we're one of the few who have downed M'uru so far. It won't be long before a couple hundred guilds have either. Progress is fast, and Blizz just can't keep a handle on how fast it is. I think all top raid guilds have come to the conclusion that Blizz hate PvE raid guilds, hence why they seem to focus more on buffing/nerfing classes on the PvP aspect of everything. I guess they just give up because no matter how much new PvE stuff they bring out, top raid guilds will have it on farm within a month of it being released which generally is not the idea that Blizz have. But eh, we'll see if there is any other major patches before WotLK is released, though, I don't think there will be.
Oh well, guess we just have to put up with it. KJ will take a while to go down I think though, because I've seen/read some of the tactics required to take this guy down, and it is in no one easy what so ever. Should be fun to try, at the least. I just wish they'd hurry up with access to him. Weekly reset happened last night so we're off to Sunwell again tonight for Kalecgos, Brutallus and Felmyst farms, probably twins too depending how everything goes, then M'uru again tomorrow night. I think it's probably best we get as much SWP gear as possible before KJ access to make it that little bit easier.
Raid guilds, so priceless :dry:
And as for PvP, I have 4 words to Blizz about it: Stop fucking it up!

endless

05-14-2008, 09:47 AM

Iron Man

05-14-2008, 09:59 AM

I used to play WoW. I was one of the lucky ones that somehow got away from it without it eating my soul. I'm so glad about that...

Ignition

05-14-2008, 10:04 AM

http://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com/
Kara? pfft. PvP gear Kgo. Forget what was the fastest we ever got him down...
But also its nice for us that arent college students, that do have jobs, that play 1-2 hours a day, to get some nice gear.
Im a casual player, and its nice to be able to grab some of the nice gear from my weekly kara runs. The problem is that people abuse it. It will still take me forever to get any good badge loot from the sunwel vendors. But the people who farm kara, they're the ones you should be mad at. Not bliz.
you still dont have any? lawls! I has almost 2 going on 3 now. over 200 badges.

IPlayWoW

05-14-2008, 10:54 AM

But also its nice for us that arent college students, that do have jobs, that play 1-2 hours a day, to get some nice gear.

Im a casual player, and its nice to be able to grab some of the nice gear from my weekly kara runs. The problem is that people abuse it. It will still take me forever to get any good badge loot from the sunwel vendors. But the people who farm kara, they're the ones you should be mad at. Not bliz.

I think you'll find most hardcore raid guilds are comprised of people in the age range of 20-30, thats not quite college student. I'm the youngest in the guild im in on my pally and im 17. The average age range in that guild is between 20 and 25 and the oldest there is 47.
Also, it IS Blizz we should be mad at, because they put that bullshit in there with a big sign on saying "Abuse plix" so that a bunch of kara nabs can have sunwell gear, it's pathetic.

Edit: We've killed aran in 46 seconds flat before. Gotta love our dps :eek:

Ignition

05-14-2008, 12:28 PM

Whats your pallys name/server? I'd like to look ya up if your still rolling Ret.

Never mind I found you Thorstein ^_-

Megabyte

05-14-2008, 01:22 PM

But also its nice for us that arent college students, that do have jobs, that play 1-2 hours a day, to get some nice gear.

you have an odd idea of what kind of time college students have

I have a LOT more free time now that I'm not a full time student on top of everything else.

Kara? pfft. PvP gear Kgo. Forget what was the fastest we ever got him down...

*watches the idea of amusement in the game fly right over your head as you try to pull out your e-penis*

IPlayWoW

05-14-2008, 01:57 PM

Whats your pallys name/server? I'd like to look ya up if your still rolling Ret.

Never mind I found you Thorstein ^_-

I got 3 pallys. 2 ret 1 holy. But the one I talk about mainly is Thorstein. Human ret pally on Eonar EU :p
Others are called Lucis (also human ret) on darkmoon faire EU and Stylah holy belf pally on Anachronos EU.

EDIT: Meh, forgot I was prot, had to OT Hyjal earlier, we didn't go to Sunwell after all :dry:
Now specced back to retri and back in ret gear.

The Coder

05-14-2008, 04:54 PM

I dont mind surv but atm with my gear BM is really the only viable specc to choose from for raiding, surv and MM are absolute garbage dps, less mana efficient and pull more threat then BM with the right rotation. Im sure when I get 1k+ agility I will be tempted to raid surv but till then BM is quite fun. On the pvp side surv rapes battle grounds and is actualy pretty decent for double dps teams, I have a friend who has a 2.2k rated 2v2 team with a rogue as a surv hunter

... Uh... I'd never really think that hunters would have major aggro issues.. with feign death and all that..

Anyway..

Oh... And wouldn't 1000 agility be fairly hard to do, even with kings and GoA? Or at least without Lightening Reflexes.

IPlayWoW

05-14-2008, 06:12 PM

No, my hunter is survival and rolling 1208 agil unbuffed and about 1400 raid buffed.

The Coder

05-14-2008, 06:13 PM

Nice. That's what, 35% +crit just from agility?

IPlayWoW

05-14-2008, 06:16 PM

3000 AP raid buffed without trinket is substantial, but too aggro whorish. I literally had to feign death on cooldown to actually not pull the boss off the tank, which I've done too many times and it's really lame. Abandoned him now, I just don't play it. I think I've specced him back to BM now though.
As for survival being crap DPS, you couldn't be more wrong, it's the best dps output a hunter can have with the right stats, but the right stats are not very easy to obtain without BT/MH gear. You need at least 850 agility to actually be able to do any decent damage as it. The whole 600 agil is crap, even 850 is still too low. Also, BM is less mana efficient than survival, fyi.

EDIT: Woot, late night Kalecgos kill with 19 people, and no loot for me, how awesome ^_-

The Coder

05-14-2008, 07:08 PM

I'd think you'd only have to feign to drop aggro from yourself towards the beginning of the fight, isn't it a full aggro wipe?

Chevalier

05-14-2008, 07:21 PM

This WoW game is for uber queers. no offense.

The Coder

05-14-2008, 07:22 PM

This WoW game is for uber queers. no offense.

Omigawd itz da furst purson to kum in hear and tell us weare luuzers. OMIGAWD GAIZ WAT DU WE DO.

Chevalier

05-14-2008, 07:30 PM

Nothing WoW is an awful game.. think before you give me bad rep.. i have played it the people that play it online are god damn queers with no life.

The Coder

05-14-2008, 07:31 PM

Nothing WoW is an awful game.. think before you give me bad rep.. i have played it the people that play it online are god damn queers with no life.

1. I lol'd you repped me with under 50 posts.
2. Seriously. Is calling things gay the only insult you have?
3. Have you ever played at high levels?

Chevalier

05-14-2008, 07:44 PM

1. It is very homo.
2. stop acting hard and defensive about a game.
3. suck my balls
4. wow is the worst game ive ever payed.

IPlayWoW

05-14-2008, 07:53 PM

Chevalier, fuck off out this thread, we don't care about your stupid "WoW sucks" opinion. Go away.

I'd think you'd only have to feign to drop aggro from yourself towards the beginning of the fight, isn't it a full aggro wipe?

You don't get what I mean.
I HAD to feign during the whole fight on CD to not pull the boss off. Even with BoSalv I could pull the boss off the tank at even 20%. It was ridiculous. That's what you get with 1400 agil survival hunters with hardly any threat reduction averaging 1.8k dps >.<
I'm not the only one who does it, I've seen plenty of hunters do it, and have to FD on CD.

The Anti

05-14-2008, 07:56 PM

1. It is very homo.
2. stop acting hard and defensive about a game.
3. suck my balls
4. wow is the worst game ive ever payed.

WOW! I might just neg you for that..
I don't even play it, but I probably could if I could pay for it. It seems pretty cool, and those WoW people might me making fun of TAO because we're so "lame and queer." So please be quiet.

thxbi

The Coder

05-14-2008, 08:00 PM

1. It is very homo.
2. stop acting hard and defensive about a game.
3. suck my balls
4. wow is the worst game ive ever payed.

So you're just a troll, kthnxbi

You don't get what I mean.
I HAD to feign during the whole fight on CD to not pull the boss off. Even with BoSalv I could pull the boss off the tank at even 20%. It was ridiculous. That's what you get with 1400 agil survival hunters with hardly any threat reduction averaging 1.8k dps >.<
I'm not the only one who does it, I've seen plenty of hunters do it, and have to FD on CD.

Lol... Nice..

The Anti

05-14-2008, 08:01 PM

I don't understand why Chev even bothered to post negatively in this thread if he doesn't even like it, lol.

AlabamaBoy

05-14-2008, 08:09 PM

I win.

At everything.

The Anti

05-14-2008, 08:11 PM

Do you win at losing?

AlabamaBoy

05-14-2008, 08:13 PM

I win at losing so much that it becomes winning again.

Kinda like going so slow it makes you in the front again.

IPlayWoW

05-14-2008, 08:24 PM

I decided to have a look at wow accounts and how much they go for and got myself a quote for mine.
Apparently the site/company whatever you wanna call it would give me an upfront payment of $4499 dollars for my account O.O
But, If I was to sell it privately it could go for upto $7k or something, I mean who would pay that for a bloody WoW account?! I find this whole thing hard to believe >.<

Wisher

05-14-2008, 08:25 PM

This WoW game is for uber queers. no offense.

If you weren't trying to be offensive you wouldn't of posted this.

Chevalier rhymes with queer so bam bitch

Hunter pets out dps them till about level 60+ it seems. THe pets alone can rape the BG's

The Coder

05-14-2008, 08:50 PM

Meh, I did about 50% more htan my pet, and I level'd SV.

IPlayWoW

05-14-2008, 08:51 PM

And I leveled marks and petless :)
Only time I used pet is just to hold aggro for me when I needed to solo "5 person" group quests.

AlabamaBoy

05-14-2008, 11:00 PM

My voidwalker is a fan of those as well.

spencer 555

05-15-2008, 07:03 AM

As for survival being crap DPS, you couldn't be more wrong, it's the best dps output a hunter can have with the right stats, but the right stats are not very easy to obtain without BT/MH gear. You need at least 850 agility to actually be able to do any decent damage as it. The whole 600 agil is crap, even 850 is still too low. Also, BM is less mana efficient than survival, fyi.

Meant at my gear lvl (I think I could push 850+ agil unbuffed) MM and surv dps are crap, as for mana efficiency.. I guess if you used a 1:1 rotation as surv (need a lot of haste for this IMO) it would be more mana efficient but the rotation required to do damage as surv/MM is much more costly then steady shot, auto shot (about 50 mana per second :P) but if u specc surv the right rotation is (from what Ive gathered) steady, <arcane>, auto, steady, <multi>, auto, steady, auto rinse repeat wich (if using highest rank shots) is around 200 mana per second. If u add master tactician your still getting about 100-150 mana per second for the right shot rotation. If you lower the ranks of multi and arcane (wich is pretty much required on boss fights) your still expending around 120 mana per second (50-80 if you get master tactician proc).

As for surv being the highest possible dps a hunter can output, if your talking about without adding in pet dps yea ur absolutely correct BM personal dps is pretty much always lower then MM and surv because your using less shots per second (here we go with mana efficiency again ;)) but your pet does about 300 more dps then a MM, surv pet would do. Although it has been proven time and time again that even in BT/sunwell BM specc will out dps MM or surv on pretty much every fight (check the hunter forums)

Also noticed you saying you didnt lvl using your pet... thats just dumb unless u wanted to lvl up slowly learning how to kite wich u probably aready knew how to do in the first place... and if your not using ur pet in a raid u should stop playing hunter, I mean your pet alone as MM or surv is doing 150 dps (with my decent gear) why would u gimp yourself 150 dps in any situation??? A BT hunter who is min maxing his gear for the highest possible dps would never EVER gimp himself of his pet by refusing to use in in a raid environment :s