World of Warcraft

[IPlayWoW]

Yeah, either WoW or AoC, but imo WoW is still better even though lots are going to AoC, it's all personal preferance really.

Actually, Feign Death was intended as an instant threat loss and also funny to annoy nubs in pvp who don't realise they feigned.

[The Coder]

Goddamnit large scale coordinated alliance attacks today. On fucking all the towns. Not even silvermoon was spared.

Also, retard paladins.
Me: Aight, can I get BoK?
Him: But that's a prot talent, I'm ret
Me: Yea, and by level 70, you SHOULD BE FUCKING SPECC'D AT LEAST 11 DEEP INTO PROT
Him: I'm not a tank, why would I go that far\
Me: ...
Me: Why the fuck wouldn't you get it?
Him: I'm not a tank you fking retard.
Me: It's the best god damned buff you have in your arsenal, don't tell me you fucking skipp'd it.
Him: I'M NOT FKING PROT YOU RETARD

[ChainHeart]

whats AoC...

[The Coder]

Age of Conan.

Thanks for bumping the thread so I didn't have to double post, I was just about to anyway, lol.

Anyway. I know how to fix all the shaman PvP issues.


ROCKBITER TOTEM!

[IPlayWoW]

Btw... BoK as retri is plain stupid. Any ret pallys who have BoK is missing many things they should have. The best specs for ret is 5 8 48 or 5 0 56. Hey I'll even link them on talent calculator to show you that if you have BoK as retri, you're an idiot. It's holy and prot pallys who should have BoK, not ret :)

5 0 56 (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sxZZEfctGcuiIot)
5 8 48 (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sxZxhZEfct0cuicot)

I also know how to fix shaman PvP. Something to make them immune to stuns for at least a short while without a shitty CD.

Also, the BEST shaman thread ever is here (http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4075027713&sid=1&pageNo=1)

[Ignition]

I like to run into an ally camp and fear+curse of doom, then seed fo corruption everything.

Then... enslave the doomguard and slaughter.

Oh no! a Hunter...

UA, CoA

Howl of Terror (for his pet)

C, SL

Drain life... and he's dead.

^_~ SO difficult.

Oh nooo! a ret pally!

Death coil, UA, Immolate, curse of exhaustion... regular dotting... dead.

And Nelf Hunters are probably the most cliche and boring class in WoW.

Allies in general blow, save the occasional draethingy.
too bad the only dule you won was when I was on the phone with my mom and just messing with the WADS and my crusader strike (bound to Q)
Goddamnit large scale coordinated alliance attacks today. On fucking all the towns. Not even silvermoon was spared.

Also, retard paladins.
Me: Aight, can I get BoK?
Him: But that's a prot talent, I'm ret
Me: Yea, and by level 70, you SHOULD BE FUCKING SPECC'D AT LEAST 11 DEEP INTO PROT
Him: I'm not a tank, why would I go that far\
Me: ...
Me: Why the fuck wouldn't you get it?
Him: I'm not a tank you fking retard.
Me: It's the best god damned buff you have in your arsenal, don't tell me you fucking skipp'd it.
Him: I'M NOT FKING PROT YOU RETARD
you sir are the retard here.

[IPlayWoW]

You 2 play on the same realm or something?

[The Coder]

Oh... My god... Some of that shit is hilarious...

By the way, one of my fucking lucky as shit friends got an invite from blizz to Beta WotLK when they're ready for it... God damn him, playing from the start and having 5 70s... 3 rogues..

[Madars]

OMG seriously!!!! Thats unbelievable man! Dude you just burst my bubble. :eek:

[IPlayWoW]

Madars, go... away...

Anyway, coder, slap him for me for accepting to beta such a bad expansion >_<

[The Coder]

Heh, duel boxing on a private server, with a Resto shaman and Retribution Paladin. Just blowing people away, utterly and completely.

[Spirit_Monger]

Anyone else here use Auctioneer?
I use it everyday. My scans usually take ~ 3 minutes. Now they take ~ 6 minutes.
There is usually around 10,000 items on the AH so no difference there.
I'm wondering if the saved variables or whatever is too much now?
If anyone has any knowledge about what could be done, please let me know.

Edit: Nevermind. Think I found the issue posted on the download page finally. Said something about 2.4.2 making them longer for whatever reason.

[The Coder]

I think they increased the amount of pause time before making a new search.

[Wisher]

Are spriests supposed to own locks of any spec?

[FreddyAdu23]

Anyone else here use Auctioneer?
I use it everyday. My scans usually take ~ 3 minutes. Now they take ~ 6 minutes.
There is usually around 10,000 items on the AH so no difference there.
I'm wondering if the saved variables or whatever is too much now?
If anyone has any knowledge about what could be done, please let me know.

Edit: Nevermind. Think I found the issue posted on the download page finally. Said something about 2.4.2 making them longer for whatever reason.
I use Auct, and i noticed the difference
Are spriests supposed to own locks of any spec?
On my spriest i own locks no mater what spec, probably one of the easist fights for me due to PS, and silence

Edit: and dispel magic =)

[The Coder]

Of course, felpuppy, yknow, counters all that.

[AlabamaBoy]

Wow lol.

SL/SL beats spriest easy.

Drain mana + shadow ward + fears

and yeah.

Felpuppy is the cute wittle fuzzy LOVE BEAR OF MY DREAMS.

http://www.jasonjenkins.com/gallery/albums/misc/felhunter.sized.jpg
AWWWWWWWW

[Spirit_Monger]

Not a good day for WoW at all.

Some 70 Druid (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kel%27Thuzad&n=Nematoad) attacks me, I kill him. So later he sees me when I am farming some Voidspawns, so attacks me again (with 4 spawns on me) and kills me. Camps me for about 10 kills.
It's noteworthy that he flew all around Nagrand for those 10 kills, not just in one spot, so it wasn't that I couldn't get away.
So I log off to take a break and come back later.

Then this Paladin (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kel%27Thuzad&n=Zacarumite) in 4/5 PvP Epics comes to attack me. Takes about 7 minutes since he has heals to heal himself completely and got 2 bubbles off, plus becomes fear immune for a little eventually, but I killed him.
About 5 minutes later, him and another Paladin (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kel%27Thuzad&n=Tallus) friend come find me. Get one down to 25%, the other to 50% before I die.
I res, iHot, and get about 3 steps away before a 70 hunter comes off his flyer and kills me. So eventually I have those pallys, the 70 hunter, 2 other 70s, a 69, and a 68 camping me. Eventually like 10 Horde get down and help me res, but I can't hearth because they still come off their flyers and shoot me before it finishes.
Eventually I res at the spirit healer, and they come and kill me there.
So I'm done for now.

But THOSE kind of people, are they people I'd say have no life. ;)

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kel%27Thuzad&n=Mordechi
That's my armory to ... So as you can see, nothing special. No epics at all, and not a ton of blues.
So they must have REALLY sucked if I killed them so easily. (The drawf pally, the first time)

[IPlayWoW]

Locks are so overrated, they really are, especially by those who play a lock and fear spam thinking they are so imba...

[The Coder]

So I'm playing on a private server on my pally. Some speedhacking hunter comes up, and he beats me 1 vs. 1 because I'm AFK and come back halfway through the fight.
I rez, and start drinking, only to see him chargin' his aimed shot. I manage to (Thank god for lag) get off my flying mount, fly up, and wait out there with him standing beneath me waiting for me to rez, him occasionally flying up a few feet, and firing off a shot at me, so I can't regen in full.
So he starts bragging about his first kill, telling me I suck, etc... while I wait. I finally get full health, drop down, and own own him using bubble, and he starts going off as to how OP it is. I mean seriously, bubble is not greater than speedhacks.

[Woodland]

Locks are so overrated, they really are, especially by those who play a lock and fear spam thinking they are so imba...
Amazingly, you just described my IRL mate when he's on his 65 Lock... How'd you ever guess? ;)

[IPlayWoW]

It's common knowledge.

[FreddyAdu23]

Fear pet & lock,

Fear Ward.....owns,

[The Coder]

Fear pet & lock,

Fear Ward.....owns,

Felpuppy > Fear ward.

[Saphira66]

Hey, i start WoW like a week ago and i think its a pretty cool online game, i have a hunter that is a lvl 20 with duel weilding and a pet, its pretty cool :D

[Spirit_Monger]

People on my server really are retarded ...
Just killed a druid who attacked me while I'm at 80% health, he's level 70. (Attacked when my DC and iHoT was on CD to.)
Maybe warlocks are OP, but it's kind of sad how stupid some of the people are.

[AlabamaBoy]

They're not overrated if you know how to play it well......

[IPlayWoW]

Hey, i start WoW like a week ago and i think its a pretty cool online game, i have a hunter that is a lvl 20 with duel weilding and a pet, its pretty cool :D

And you melee with your "duel wield" and have spirit on your gear too, right?
Plus, you're probably a night elf aswell, aren't you?

[Spirit_Monger]

I'm at level 66 with a little under 45% exp left until 67. On the A Visit with the Greatmother (http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10044) quest series.

When do you all usually hit Blade's Edge mountains?
I was going to try to get 67 in Nagrand (I guess grinding off of ogres for beads for consortium and rep with mag'har, plus netherweave cloth), get most of the way through 69 in Blade's Edge if not to 70, and then quest in Netherstorm and Shadowmoon.

Suggestions? =\

[The Coder]

And you melee with your "duel wield" and have spirit on your gear too, right?
Plus, you're probably a night elf aswell, aren't you?

He's enchanting / tailoring too, and wondering why there's no tailoring specializations designed for hunters.

[IPlayWoW]

I'm at level 66 with a little under 45% exp left until 67. On the A Visit with the Greatmother (http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10044) quest series.

When do you all usually hit Blade's Edge mountains?
I was going to try to get 67 in Nagrand (I guess grinding off of ogres for beads for consortium and rep with mag'har, plus netherweave cloth), get most of the way through 69 in Blade's Edge if not to 70, and then quest in Netherstorm and Shadowmoon.

Suggestions? =\

Silly boy, go to BEM at 66, get 68 there, get to 69 in shadowmoon then 69-70 in netherstorm is crazy fast, easily do-able in half a day if you set your mind to it.

He's enchanting / tailoring too, and wondering why there's no tailoring specializations designed for hunters.

Lolwut?

[Wisher]

Spirit i hit 67 in nagrand went to blade's edge and hit 68. And then its like auto 70 in netherstorm, i never quested that much in shadowmoon but netherstorm is hella fast.

[Woodland]

I'm at level 66 with a little under 45% exp left until 67. On the A Visit with the Greatmother (http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10044) quest series.

When do you all usually hit Blade's Edge mountains?
I was going to try to get 67 in Nagrand (I guess grinding off of ogres for beads for consortium and rep with mag'har, plus netherweave cloth), get most of the way through 69 in Blade's Edge if not to 70, and then quest in Netherstorm and Shadowmoon.

Suggestions? =\
Like Wisher said Blades Edge at 67, that's what I did with my mate. 68-70 easily picked of by Shadowmoon and Neatherstorm. Both benefit pretty nicely so it doesn't matter that much.
They're not overrated if you know how to play it well......
Even so, playing it still consists of Fear, DoTs and Drain Life xD

Get kind of boring if you asked me, well it did that's why I deleted my 42 Lock.

Besides, you might think Locks are OP. Ever tried killing a Resto Druid? Yeah ok I;m a Druid but I'm Feral. But they're a bitch to kill.

[Madars]

Is this a star wars game or something?

[AlabamaBoy]

Spell Lock + Death Coil + Howl of Terror + Fear

:)

Resto druid's got nothin on me....

Considering the fact that I'm pulling the any life that he heals himself for out of him + other dots.

[Madars]

Spell Lock + Death Coil + Howl of Terror + Fear

:)

Resto druid's got nothin on me....

Considering the fact that I'm pulling the any life that he heals himself for out of him + other dots.

I dont understand a word your saying...

[FreddyAdu23]

Madars Go Away From This Thread....

All healers r easy to kill.... Holy pallies being hardest because of bubble... but still no challenge

Mana Burn =) Silence =) PS =)

[Wisher]

Spell Lock + Death Coil + Howl of Terror + Fear

:)

Resto druid's got nothin on me....

Considering the fact that I'm pulling the any life that he heals himself for out of him + other dots.

Spell lock lasts 3 seconds i think, and they can just trinket. Resto druids take forever to kill imo, nature's swiftness dire bear form and travel form plus all their HoTs and dispel curse and poison, blech

[Woodland]

A Simple Lifebloom or Rejuv/Regrowth + Swiftmend makes DoTs fail.

Manaburn? *Chuckles* Innervate easily enough come back from that.

[Wisher]

And you can easily go into bear/cat form if someones mana draining you.

[AlabamaBoy]

If it comes down to it I'll just shadowbolt spam + fear you -.-

Idc, you can simplify how I kill you, but in the end you're still the one running from the GY while I eat your corpse...

/cast cannabalize
/say This is making me hungry IRL...

[Woodland]

Yeah, seeing as Manaburn has cast time then bear + stun move or feral charge if you did that whilst resto easily stops it.

You'd run out of mana before we did. And Life Tap isn't the brightest move in your spell book.

[FreddyAdu23]

why the heck would i ever mana burn a druid????

thats for pallies/priests/shammies

all i ahve to do is silence u second u come out of bear form.... then shadow ward:death and u are dead (sometimes mind blast then death)

[booyaka619]

I have a question. My WoW has been down for 2 days now. Whenever I log on it disconnects. After it comes up with this thing where I send in what I was doing and all the info. Help?

[The Coder]

Yes, that's going to work great when you're cyclon'd/stunn'd/lock'd out

[AlabamaBoy]

Felpuppy = my new retort for everything.

[The Coder]

I have a question. My WoW has been down for 2 days now. Whenever I log on it disconnects. After it comes up with this thing where I send in what I was doing and all the info. Help?

You mean the ONO IT DUN CRASHED??? window?

[IPlayWoW]

why the heck would i ever mana burn a druid????

thats for pallies/priests/shammies

all i ahve to do is silence u second u come out of bear form.... then shadow ward:death and u are dead (sometimes mind blast then death)

Shadow priests can't kill anything 1v1, they suck in pvp, and pve for that matter, sorry.
They are only useful for healers for Vampiric Embrace + Mind Flay.

[AlabamaBoy]

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Detheroc&n=Mushmouth

[IPlayWoW]

Seen better on the realms I play on, on EU, yet they still seem to seriously suck.

[AlabamaBoy]

This guy is a pal of mine.

He's seriously talented.

It's not just his gear.

[IPlayWoW]

Fair enough then.

I'm starting to love my retadin more and more, now got the best 2H wep in the game, shivering felspine :D

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Eonar&n=Thorstein

[AlabamaBoy]

Pretty.

>.>

I'm liking PvE on my lock.

I'm 41/0/20

PvP able, and still cranking DPS.

[IPlayWoW]

Locks have stupid dps, but really, being #1 dps/overall damage dealer isn't much of a challenge as a caster, whereas if you're doing it as a 2h using melee class, it's rather funny for us out dps'ing locks/mages/ele shammys.

[AlabamaBoy]

=P

You can't dis the whole class.. seeing as I'm a part of it.

I am a fan of enhancement...

As for ret pallies.. there's some things you just can't do as well;

-A talented player + a good DPS class is better than a talented player and one that doesn't do it well.

It's not an insult, it's just reality.

[IPlayWoW]

Do you know how much dps ret pallies and enhance shamans can actually do in end game with the right gear? :p

[booyaka619]

You mean the ONO IT DUN CRASHED??? window?
Yea....

[IPlayWoW]

Enhancement shamans completely own pre 70 in PvP. This (http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8393/dundundunnc3.jpg) proves it, that's the shammy I'm leveling, not twinked or anything. Ignore the deaths, most of the fights I had were 5v1 in that and it still took the last person standing to get me when im on 5%.

[AlabamaBoy]

Shamans own the 49 bracket... but we have difficulty when it comes to endgame PvP...

And yes, I know how much DPS I can do.

But there's a point when you're just bored with a character with that much /played.

[booyaka619]

I have a question. My WoW has been down for 2 days now. Whenever I log on it disconnects. After it comes up with this thing where I send in what I was doing and all the info. Help?

Anyone able to help?

[Lord Shinok]

I think I'm going to buy WoW soon. TAO isn't cutting it for me anymore.

[Spirit_Monger]

Roll horde on the Kel'Thuzad server. ;)

[Megabyte]

Anyone able to help?

delete your .exe file, then run the WoW repair setup, and re-patch it with your saves patch files. If you're using a lot of addons, remove them all from the folder, update all of them to the latest version, and slowly re-add them one by one if the problem persists (to see if any of them cause it).

If it's anything with the game itself, that should fix it.

[Ignition]

Sooo.... my guildies just got me to soul bind our decked out FR set, the fallowing night I got multiple offers/demands to join the 3rd ranked guild on the server and go strait into BT/MH promised raid spot because they kicked ALL of there other prot pallys... apparently I was the next best geared available person >_<

Its also the guild my long time IRL/many many gaming friend Zeratul plays, who was the the main reason I started to play WoW on that server... Problem is I know the ENTIRE guild where I am right now will beat me senseless with the guilt bat :\

Maybe I'll farm all the mats for a new FR set, plop them in the gbank. put the entire guild on ignore and change my name?

[IPlayWoW]

Screw guilt bats tbh, leave and join guilds for progress, and I'm sure if you said you were joining because an rl mate of yours is in that guild they'll be cool with it.

[AlabamaBoy]

Huh.

You better not leave me high and dry.

Necross.

~_^

[Megabyte]

Screw guilt bats tbh, leave and join guilds for progress, and I'm sure if you said you were joining because an rl mate of yours is in that guild they'll be cool with it.

heh, probably not, but I agree that playing with RL peeps in the game is better than strangers


Who knows, once you've got yourself geared you can always rejoin them and be the uber tank they could use.

[Ignition]

Screw guilt bats tbh, leave and join guilds for progress, and I'm sure if you said you were joining because an rl mate of yours is in that guild they'll be cool with it.
Thats the problem I've gotten to know a good number of them now, a few of them I would consider good friends by now even. Hell I'm going drinking with that IRL buddy and the guild leader when he comes up here to visit family >_<

(for Bama: Dahrken grew up in Halifax. quite near where my place is actually ^_^)
heh, probably not, but I agree that playing with RL peeps in the game is better than strangers


Who knows, once you've got yourself geared you can always rejoin them and be the uber tank they could use.
I allready am an uber tank -_-" I'm t5+ish geared ATM and we're just getting back on track now after picking up the remains of the guild for the 3rd time. We're JUST getting into Luker and other idiot/gear check content. There are 10-12 people (the ones that keep roughing it out thought the guild reforming) that can do the shit I want to TK/SSC but I mean I've done enough of that... even t5. sure I haven't seen ALL of SSC but I think I'd like to get a glimps of MH before WotLK

[IPlayWoW]

MH isn't as good as people say, and BT sucks. SWP is where the party is at tbh.

[Megabyte]

t sure I haven't seen ALL of SSC but I think I'd like to get a glimps of MH before WotLK

Everyone talks like that's gonna be out in a week or two. You're gonna get a good 3+ months notice from it's release date announcement. Time enough to get some progression there.


And I rather liked MH, though BT is pretty ugly and lame until the end of it.

[IPlayWoW]

Granted MH is nice, scenery wise, but it's genereally boring due to trash and waves etc. Though it's great that you can run around on mounts in there :p
Most fun in there is Archimonde, that fight's just simply ftw.

[AlabamaBoy]

I wish I could kite all the world dragons to stormwind... and just let them kill all the allies.

[IPlayWoW]

Kited the pit lord from HP to shattrath before, put A'dal into combat with it, fun times.
Not to mention the amount of 70 nubs we killed with it, just had a tankadin and 2 healers to keep him up then we bubble hearthed and the pit lord went around killing everything.

[The Coder]

I gotta admit, I'm kinda looking forward to WotLK, I loves teh norse mythologiez. And vikingz rocks.

[IPlayWoW]

Lul gogo siege kekeke

[Ignition]

Granted MH is nice, scenery wise, but it's genereally boring due to trash and waves etc. Though it's great that you can run around on mounts in there :p
Most fun in there is Archimonde, that fight's just simply ftw.
That bastard still has my sword!
Kited the pit lord from HP to shattrath before, put A'dal into combat with it, fun times.
Not to mention the amount of 70 nubs we killed with it, just had a tankadin and 2 healers to keep him up then we bubble hearthed and the pit lord went around killing everything.
Q_Q thats better then I've done. I cant imagine just how fucking hard you guys must have been luling. I know I almost wet myself just taking the KoT boss mob to Gadgetzan :)

This is VERY shortly after going prot. My stats blue and my gear blew harder. I was however still uncrushable :D
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/Kyl02/WoWScrnShot_042608_001616.jpg Image by moi
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/Kyl02/WoWScrnShot_042508_211858.jpg Image by random rouge

[IPlayWoW]

It was hilarious, I can tell you, all it was, was 3 paladins who kited it, then we bubble hearthed ourselves back to aldor/scryer places in shatt and came back down to watch it raping everything. Tankadin was PoJ specced especially for it :p
But nice Anachronos kite, pretty funny lol.

[Ignition]

The best is getting the bosses that do multi target (AOE) dmg so they pick up the guards as well. I have no idea but apparently after I died some guards got targeted so he camped out in town for a good 10-15min. Skeletons EVERYWHERE.

As you can see I had a resto drood.. I'll have to try that tri pally thing some time!

[IPlayWoW]

Yeah resto druids are good for kiting, what with HoTs and instants etc, but no bubble hearth :(
Tankadins are plainly awesome for kiting big evil mobs to kill everything, people get really pissed about it so it makes it even funnier.
We did it again with a bunch of dead scar mobs on Isle of Quel'danas. I specced Thorstein to prot and grabbed 2 healadins and we kited a pack of them and DI'd each other to lose aggro off each other and it worked a treat, they went and killed everything.

[booyaka619]

I'm close to my epic :cool: lol

[Wisher]

Druids are amazing. my 2s partner is a feral druid, cyclone is amaizing plus normal cat dps and he healbots me after a pounce usually.

Yay druids

[The Coder]

Anyone know any good DoT timers for affliction warlocks / shadow priests?

[Ignition]

Hey Iplay you might know the answer to this, and it'll give me something else to work on in my off days. the new Alch trinkets can you stack them? say spell dmg and defence raiting or something for example? I know the 40% pot bonus wont stack but because thats just a buff can you really have two of the new Alch stones? O_o

If the answer to that question is 'no'. can you stack an old Alch stone and a new one?

If the answer to both of those was 'yes' how hard is leveling Alch with only 1600g left over from getting 385 enchant/engineering/epic with out having herb? I'd also like to add: would it be a good idea (provided I find good replacements) to drop engineering for Alch?

[Madars]

TAO is not WOW... if you want WoW go to Wow forum you retarded piece of tird mountain!

[AlabamaBoy]

Go back to legends where someone cares.

[Madars]

Go back to legends where someone cares.

I'm already there! I'm here there and everywhere muahahhahahahaha :)

[booyaka619]

I'm getting my epic

[IPlayWoW]

No one cares about your "epic".

Anyways...

Hey Iplay you might know the answer to this, and it'll give me something else to work on in my off days. the new Alch trinkets can you stack them? say spell dmg and defence raiting or something for example? I know the 40% pot bonus wont stack but because thats just a buff can you really have two of the new Alch stones? O_o

If the answer to that question is 'no'. can you stack an old Alch stone and a new one?

If the answer to both of those was 'yes' how hard is leveling Alch with only 1600g left over from getting 385 enchant/engineering/epic with out having herb? I'd also like to add: would it be a good idea (provided I find good replacements) to drop engineering for Alch?

Umm, no and no again. I was considering getting alch myself for 1 of every type and as you say spell dmg/def combo. But it doesn't work :(
I think it's actually kinda gay tbh, but yeah. You can't stack ANY of the alch stones, none of them.
As for 1600g to max out Alch too, I don't really know, depends on herbs economy on your server, I know on the ones I play on, I wouldn't be able to do pull off 1-375 alch with 1600g.

[Ignition]

Oh well Pfft I've got a steady income with all the farming and dailys I do, I just meant to tae the major chunk out of it. but what ever I'll stick with mah goggles.

.../sniff i was really hoping you could stack a few QQ

[IPlayWoW]

Though, once you do get upgrades to your goggles, which won't take long tbh. I'd suggest getting Alch anyway, for the pots/elixirs etc, unless you have a steady supply of them already, though. It is a pretty good way of making your own pots if they aren't in AH. Plus people always pay for transmutes pretty generously.

[Ignition]

Income is not my problem, nor are potions. I usually get tiped or recive a stack every time I make some one some injectors any ways. On top of that I can make lots of gold as it with Enchanting and Engineering, now your saying that it wont take long to find an upgrade for my t1 Engin goggles o_O? The only REAL upgrade would be t6 or t2 goggles....
I'm not even clearing MH trash yet -_-

However there would be an increase in gold because clearly xmuting is more required (nightly raids = flasks) but I just dont know if it would be worth it or not... seeing as my trinkets are not all that bad. but I have no decent replacement for my goggles as of yetm

[Woodland]

Curse you and your raids, I feel so noobie.

Wee HC SL guild run later <_>

[Walrus]

my paladin tanked illidan last thursday /flex

but im moving to age of conan soon, anyone wanna buy an awesome account for £250? :P

[Ignition]

NO! BAD WALRUS!! you play wow and keep playing wow AND YOU"RE GOING TO LIKE IT!!

come play on mah server eh?

[Megabyte]

but im moving to age of conan soon, anyone wanna buy an awesome account for £250? :P

Eh, not looking forward as much as I maybe once was, just yet another seasons hopeful WoW usurper. Haven't gotten to give it much time, since I have to hijack friend's comps to play the beta.


Looks like I'm stuck finding alternate solutions until WoTLK and my shiny death knight.

[Ignition]

Pfffft. I still think I rolled the best class, hell I even got a negative/vice-versa death knight before all of you. thats right! your not going to do anything I would consider special except maybe have gear thats not pink/purple/gay. Death knights are just unholy pallys imo

....the two hander tanking does sound fun though ¬ ¬

[Megabyte]

Pfffft. I still think I rolled the best class, hell I even got a negative/vice-versa death knight before all of you. thats right! your not going to do anything I would consider special except maybe have gear thats not pink/purple/gay. Death knights are just unholy pallys imo

....the two hander tanking does sound fun though ¬ ¬

Lotta knowledgeable sounding bs for someone who hasn't played the class, or knows anyone who has, or even read about anyone who has.

We got little tidbits on their site, and that's about it. I'd imagine they'll be as similar to Pally's as Pally's are to Warriors. If the class is a real letdown, just means I try to find a replacement game a little sooner.

[Wisher]

What's best hunter spec for 2's, with a resto druid as my partner (and alternate feral druid)

[The Coder]

<insert obligatory respec rogue joke here>

I'm not sure. Probably marks, possibly SV.
Beast Mastery's gotta be weak with all the pillar humping and dead pets. You'd need a decent supply of CC

[IPlayWoW]

5 40 something 7 marks for arena tbh, or spirit bond BM.

[Ignition]

hunTARD!

[Saphira66]

I'm actually starting to really like World of Warcraft, its pretty cool. I like that the fact that you can tame creatures and other forms of monsters :)

[Ignition]

Lotta knowledgeable sounding bs for someone who hasn't played the class, or knows anyone who has, or even read about anyone who has.

We got little tidbits on their site, and that's about it. I'd imagine they'll be as similar to Pally's as Pally's are to Warriors. If the class is a real letdown, just means I try to find a replacement game a little sooner.
Twas kidding, I haven't really been reading/keeping up with all the deathknight stuff. I'm just going to keep rolling my pally.

[IPlayWoW]

hunTARD!

So true, we have many of them on EU.

[FreddyAdu23]

ok guys im started to question my talent tree on my shadow priest.
Can u help me, i need something that is good at raiding, and grinding for dailies etc.

My biggest issue is do i get silence or not?

[Spirit_Monger]

http://www.wowwiki.com/Priest_builds#Level_70_Builds

That might be a decent start if take a look at the builds they have there.

[Wisher]

I might be confusing this with a frost mage but i think the build is 14/0/47 or 17/0/44 something like that. And i havent seen many PvE spriests with silence, if you're raiding silence doesn't work on bosses (i think) and the 2 points in reduced fear downtime is pretty useless.

[Blexican]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEWgs6YQR9A

[The Coder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEWgs6YQR9A

Old.

[IPlayWoW]

Yet still funny.

[FreddyAdu23]

Earilier today some people and me (in guild) were bored so we 5-maned ZG, and that got me looking at some lvl 60 loot, and dam some of it is better then stuff i have lol.... And most of it is better then what 50% of 70's have.

[IPlayWoW]

Usually the case.

Oh and we had our first attempt on KJ last night. God he is one hard bastard. Our best attempt out of 11 of the night we got him to 87%. He literally is Illidan x1 million as I originally thought. The fight is so complex it's unreal. Our MT was getting hit for around 7k everytime when he was on KJ himself so the healers really had a hard time.

Also, considering our gear, 2-2.5k sustained dps really isn't that easy to pull off, which ideally you need to take him down.

Ah well, it's all in the practice, I estimate at least 2-3 weeks of wiping before he goes down, lol.

[The Coder]

Usually the case.

Oh and we had our first attempt on KJ last night. God he is one hard bastard. Our best attempt out of 11 of the night we got him to 87%. He literally is Illidan x1 million as I originally thought. The fight is so complex it's unreal. Our MT was getting hit for around 7k everytime when he was on KJ himself so the healers really had a hard time.

Also, considering our gear, 2-2.5k sustained dps really isn't that easy to pull off, which ideally you need to take him down.

Ah well, it's all in the practice, I estimate at least 2-3 weeks of wiping before he goes down, lol.

Yea, I read about that. It seems like it's half Survival fight and half DPS race, a tough combo.

[IPlayWoW]

Meh, last night was meant to be an offday, but we got bored and I'd be lying if I said this wasn't fun. It was originally meant to be a few friends going and having a laugh, which then turned into a 22 man guild PvP raid.

A couple guildies (Ret pally, lock and frost mage) and I grouped up and trundled off to Orgrimmar gates, see if we could get any world PvP action.

Fortunately, there was a good 10+ flagged level 70 hordies. Frosty got cheated into flagging via a douche move in a duel by some season 1 geared nubtard... sorry huntard... hunter even... So naturally they all ganked her.

We saw there was 26 people online in the guild (including us) and I asked in /g if anyone fancied coming and laying a smackdown on Orgrimmar. So here we are inviting another 19 people, waited for frostys PvP to go off and got to summoning the rest of the raid.

Long story short, in under an hour and a half we had Thrall dead, Cairne dead, Sylvanas dead and Lorthemar and his elflings dead without a single casualty in our raid.

Just goes to show, SWP geared raid guild all in PvE gear can and does rape 40+ PvP geared 70 hordes...

[Volcom]

grats ?

[IPlayWoW]

Yeah, grats, cos tbh more than half were 2k rated full venge people with 12k+ hp and over 400 resi, not to mention the best of the best horde pvp'ers, doesn't make it very easy. Actually we have a video on youtube of it I believe, or will be soon and at one point the recorder and editor said he counted 58 lvl 70 hordes at one point.

[Kyir]

Yeah, grats, cos tbh more than half were 2k rated full venge people with 12k+ hp and over 400 resi, not to mention the best of the best horde pvp'ers, doesn't make it very easy. Actually we have a video on youtube of it I believe, or will be soon and at one point the recorder and editor said he counted 58 lvl 70 hordes at one point.

Everyone on your server's prolly bad anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

[IPlayWoW]

Yeah, a server with 7 sunwell guilds, another 10 or so into BT. A good 20 or so 2k+ rated arena teams, our server is really bad isn't it.

GG Pro.

[Kyir]

Yeah, a server with 7 sunwell guilds, another 10 or so into BT. A good 20 or so 2k+ rated arena teams, our server is really bad isn't it.

GG Pro.

Cause PvE = PvP.

True story.

[FreddyAdu23]

how hard are the t5 instances (The Eye, and ssc) when you first do them (whole guild in t4 stuff)

[AlabamaBoy]

Allies...

I attribute your winning to a lack of organization and... maybe lack of caring.

[Wisher]

how hard are the t5 instances (The Eye, and ssc) when you first do them (whole guild in t4 stuff)

You can probably do VR. my guild does vr and astromancer solarian (sp? ><). i don't have very good gear but usually am in the raid, our tanks and healers are geared though.

[Spirit_Monger]

Took a little over a week break from WoW since my game card expired.
Might activate another one, but part of me doesn't want to start playing it yet either.

Can't decide. =\

[IPlayWoW]

You can probably do VR. my guild does vr and astromancer solarian (sp? ><). i don't have very good gear but usually am in the raid, our tanks and healers are geared though.

Aye those 2 are pretty easy... Along with Al'ar... The only real problem is Kael, he is still relatively hard for those without decent communication and good coordination even now. There's actually a guild on our realm who have cleared Hyjal but still haven't downed Kael. Mind you, Hyjal is very overrated in terms of difficulty. It's actually funny how SSC and TK are meant to be hard, but they really aren't, the fights are so basic, it just takes an attempt or 3 to be able to nail a boss in the first night, except for Kael and maybe Vashj.
By the way, yeah you spelt it right :p

[The Coder]

31 / 3 on a lock / pally team in arena on a private server. Know what's even better? He's in S1 and I'm in about half of t3. Shows how much they suck, especially the full donor teams we owned (Aka, the noobfire spam from the 25k health noobkin). There was only 1 good team, Druid + Rogue, the rogue was mediocre, but the druid, phenomenal

[IPlayWoW]

Lol, it's rare that you find a good player on a PR, but there are some.

Oh meh, btw... KJ 64% best so far :dry:

[ChainHeart]

which server do u all play on?

[IPlayWoW]

Eonar EU
Anachronos EU
Darkmoon Faire EU
Argent Dawn EU

My 70's are spread out :p

[AlabamaBoy]

Uhg. mine to.

Detheroc US
Auchindoun US
Frostmane US
Alexstraza US

[IPlayWoW]

Goddamn it KJ sucks!
Tried him again a bit this afternoon, 49%, lol.

[Megabyte]

Took a little over a week break from WoW since my game card expired.
Might activate another one, but part of me doesn't want to start playing it yet either.

Can't decide. =\

I'm at that point too, just bored with the game.

Would really like new content more often than every 6 months. I'm not even interested in the last patch's stuff anymore.

Thinking I'll be back at the xpac, I've been waiting for years for them to release a new class. I think back to how I mocked SoE's setup with EQ, and releasing xpac's all over the place...but now I realize that it spoiled me for this slow as hell stuff that Blizz does.

[Spirit_Monger]

I'm at that point too, just bored with the game.

Would really like new content more often than every 6 months. I'm not even interested in the last patch's stuff anymore.

Thinking I'll be back at the xpac, I've been waiting for years for them to release a new class. I think back to how I mocked SoE's setup with EQ, and releasing xpac's all over the place...but now I realize that it spoiled me for this slow as hell stuff that Blizz does.

Yeah.

since I still have the game card which is activated and another spare one, I figure I should at least use them up since i didnt spend anything on them anyway.

Logging in for 10-20 minutes to scan the ah, post auctions, and log back out is actually more interesting than the game right now for me.
I'm still at level 67 though to so I'd like to at least try to do some more end game PvP since I haven't before.
Doubt I'd do end game raids since I don't feel like playing for 5 hours at a time and PvP allows for more breaks in between matches.

I'm actually not too excited for the expansion. Feels like the game in general is just somewhat boring and too repetitive now anyway so I don't see it being the reason I might keep playing.

[Megabyte]

Screw that, I've waited years for a new class, and I'll be damned if I'm not gonna play it when it comes out. People are right in that a LOT of people are just gonna make a death knight, because we've gotten new zones and new grinds before.

We've never gotten a new class and I'm sure I'm not in the minority in anticipating that above all else.

[FreddyAdu23]

Yeah.

since I still have the game card which is activated and another spare one, I figure I should at least use them up since i didnt spend anything on them anyway.

Logging in for 10-20 minutes to scan the ah, post auctions, and log back out is actually more interesting than the game right now for me.
I'm still at level 67 though to so I'd like to at least try to do some more end game PvP since I haven't before.
Doubt I'd do end game raids since I don't feel like playing for 5 hours at a time and PvP allows for more breaks in between matches.

I'm actually not too excited for the expansion. Feels like the game in general is just somewhat boring and too repetitive now anyway so I don't see it being the reason I might keep playing.
I personally think lvling at low lvls is borning as hell...

Once you go to outland it gets more fun, but still ultra borning. I think that the end game stuff (lvl 70) is by far the best. I personally prefer raiding to PvP..... Raid bosses are really fun, cause they are actually more then tank and spank, you have to do things.

[The Coder]

I think it's funner the first few times you do the boss- When you're still trying to work things out. Once it's gotten easy though, it's lame.

[IPlayWoW]

I personally prefer raiding to PvP..... Raid bosses are really fun, cause they are actually more then tank and spank, you have to do things.

Haha, not til sunwell :p

[Ignition]

World of WarCraft is a really hard game...
you have to not stand in the fire.

[IPlayWoW]

Haha, take it you're talking about Archimonde and Doomfire noobs?

[zz99]

Screw that, I've waited years for a new class, and I'll be damned if I'm not gonna play it when it comes out. People are right in that a LOT of people are just gonna make a death knight, because we've gotten new zones and new grinds before.

We've never gotten a new class and I'm sure I'm not in the minority in anticipating that above all else.

Well yeah, I mean, they said the deathknight would be the first truly "overpowered" class.

Everyone will make those then go to Pvp.

But don't you have to have a lvl 60+ character or something like that to make a deathknight?

Anyways, I'm still lvl 61, I still haven't been able to buy a new computer, and this one is too much of a piece of crap.

It's been almost 6 months. >.>

[Megabyte]

Well yeah, I mean, they said the deathknight would be the first truly "overpowered" class.


Who's they?

Blizzard is obsessive on "balance" working with the belief that without perfect balance in the game, it's not workable or fun for the player. That's a stupid sentiment, proven wrong by most other mmo's out there, but that's their concept nonetheless.

Hopefully the death knight with be new enough to keep me interested for a while.


And I do agree with the above concepts that leveling is boring as hell, but mostly because there's nothing new there. If Blizz would bother to make new stuff for leveling, then people wouldn't see making new characters as such a burden, keeping them in the game longer as they leveled then progressed new chars.

[AlabamaBoy]

I agree with you megabyte.

Do you know how many damn raptor heads I've looted?

Hundreds.

[***Duo***]

Age of Conan.


-Duo

[Wisher]

it'd be cool if each class got a different set of quests, but there would still be group quests and such that are the same for 2 different classes. That way makin new chars wouldn't mean the same quests over and over.

And..BM is best hunter PVE spec right?

[IPlayWoW]

Sucks ass.

-IPlay

And BM until you're able to reach 900+ agility, then go survival or you're an idiot :)

[Wisher]

900... That will be awhile

[zz99]

Who's they?

Blizzard is obsessive on "balance" working with the belief that without perfect balance in the game, it's not workable or fun for the player. That's a stupid sentiment, proven wrong by most other mmo's out there, but that's their concept nonetheless.

Hopefully the death knight with be new enough to keep me interested for a while.


And I do agree with the above concepts that leveling is boring as hell, but mostly because there's nothing new there. If Blizz would bother to make new stuff for leveling, then people wouldn't see making new characters as such a burden, keeping them in the game longer as they leveled then progressed new chars.

Blizz has said that the deathknight will be the strongest class in the game.

They said it wouldn't be that it's grossly overpowered, but that it wouldn't have a weakness like the other classes.

[***Duo***]

Sucks ass.

-IPlay

And BM until you're able to reach 900+ agility, then go survival or you're an idiot :)

Why?


-Duo

[The Coder]

Why?


-Duo

BM's going to provide you with a 20% haste bonus, which turns out to be a very large increase in DPS. While survival increases both AP and Crit, it requires much more agility to be able to give similar results to a twenty percent haste increase.

[IPlayWoW]

He was questioning why I said AoC sucks ass, not the whole hunter spec things.

I played it round a friends house and was bored within 10 mins of playing it.

900... That will be awhile

BT/MH farm level it's doable, til then it really isn't easy.

[***Duo***]

He was questioning why I said AoC sucks ass, not the whole hunter spec things.

I played it round a friends house and was bored within 10 mins of playing it.

Meh.

You're obviously making a prejudgemental call.


-Duo

[Wizzy`]

Duo, what server are you on of AoC? I'm gonna buy it.

[IPlayWoW]

Meh, anything using the servers they do sucks ass anyway, period.

Oh btw, KJ DOWWWWWWNNNNN!!!!!!

[Wisher]

Damnn nice iplay, did you win anythin?

i got t4 shoulders tonight :]

[Wizzy`]

Every time I ask Duo a question involving something else besides TAO..he doesn't answer.

[***Duo***]

Duo, what server are you on of AoC? I'm gonna buy it.

Doomsayer.

Sorry, I was playing Age of Conan.

I just chopped of someones head, and then got a call, so I tabbed out for a second.


-Duo

[emerald slasher]

Every time I ask Duo a question involving something else besides TAO..he doesn't answer.

I wouldn't answer you either..

[IPlayWoW]

Damnn nice iplay, did you win anythin?

i got t4 shoulders tonight :]

Yep, won this: Crown of Anasterian (http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/crownofanasterian.jpg)

Rest of the loot was this:

Golden Staff of the Sin'Dorei (http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/may/goldenstaffofsindorei.jpg)
Hand of the Deciever (http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/may/handofthedeceiver.jpg) (which is dropping for every guild thats downed KJ it seems, haha)
Handguards of the Dawn (http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/handguardsofthedawn.jpg)

Now, gimme his sword on the next kill :p
Grats on the shoulders also.

[FreddyAdu23]

Have you had that legendary bow drop yet? lol

I want Kj's dagger for my spriest... 292 bonus damage - Thats amazing! That + Soulfrost = Pure Awesome

[Megabyte]

Meh, anything using the servers they do sucks ass anyway, period.

Since the WoW servers were such sterling beacons of stability in their opening months ;) Not to mention what a brilliant game experience you get out of WoW in 10 mins as well.

[IPlayWoW]

Have you had that legendary bow drop yet? lol

I want Kj's dagger for my spriest... 292 bonus damage - Thats amazing! That + Soulfrost = Pure Awesome

We've only killed him once, that was last night at 3.17am on our 12th attempt of the night, it was long, tiring, and annoying wiping 7 times below 10%, but we got him, finally.

The only people who have had the legendary drop is Last Resort, some Orc hunter won it. It was on their first ever kill, fucking lucky tbh. Every guild who has killed him only killed him since May 25th (SK Gaming world first). No one has done him more than once yet.

[FreddyAdu23]

I know they killed him May 25th, but how long are you saved to sunwell?

Most instances are only like 2-3day save, is sunwell like extra long? Cause i would they would have been able to kill him at least twice by now.

[IPlayWoW]

No, you get saved to instances when you enter them/kill a first boss, so it can be upto 6 days saved to an instance for the weekly reset/maintenance. We had KJ down within 3 full nights of tries.
Basically we were saved to sunwell from wednesday til wednesday clearing it to KJ for 2 nights of attempts on KJ on monday and tuesday. The reset happened tuesday night (technically wednesday morning) and we cleared 5/6 sunwell on wednesday night, started KJ on thursday night and nailed him on the 12th attempt of the night. We were fucking buzzing considering we had him down in under 25 attempts, which is actually pretty damn fast considering his difficulty.

[Woodland]

Hate you naabs talking about Sunwell.

Anyway, my guild did full 10 of us from the guild, some already done it but with random people. A long 3 and half hour (Not used to that long <.>) doing it and we got to Curator. Didn't down him our burst damage wasn't the strongest on his Evocation stage. 12% best we did.

Positive side for me I got 8 Badges and new tanking idol for druid. =]

I'm getting there. :P

[IPlayWoW]

Don't be jealous of us clearing sunwell, jeans.

Also, it took you that long to get to curator? =/

How many wipes did you have man?!

But gl with kara tbh, can be a pain in the ass for new guilds/new raiders. After the first clear it's pretty piss, lol.

[Wisher]

When it takes 6+ mins to down attunemen you know you need to ditch your pug group. I suffered this experience -.-

[IPlayWoW]

6 mins+? Ouch.
God, I forgotten what that's like, seems like so long ago, we usually just clear kara in 2 and a half hours for 22 easy badges. Every boss takes maximum 3 mins, just trash is so lame.

[The Coder]

6 mins+? Ouch.
God, I forgotten what that's like, seems like so long ago, we usually just clear kara in 2 and a half hours for 22 easy badges. Every boss takes maximum 3 mins, just trash is so lame.

trash is what kills raiding. I mean who doesn't love boss fight -> boss fight -> boss fight?

[Hunt ^^]

Whats your highest crits?
Mine was 25k with a affliction warlock.(70 full t6) :cool:

EDIT: Exact No. was 24580 or something.

[The Coder]

Whats your highest crits?
Mine was 25k with a affliction warlock.(70 full t6) :cool:

Seems a wee bit unlikely to me. Even with a 0/21/40 destruction build, that's suspicious.

[Hunt ^^]

Private Server though I;m not sure about real servers.

[Hunt ^^]

6 mins+? Ouch.
God, I forgotten what that's like, seems like so long ago, we usually just clear kara in 2 and a half hours for 22 easy badges. Every boss takes maximum 3 mins, just trash is so lame.

Usually people just get mongoose and leave.
T3 isn't worth the time spent. (I think its T3 I haven't done kara in ages)

:EDIT
Damn I thought Coder had a post here.
Sorry about the double post.

[The Coder]

Private Server though I;m not sure about real servers.

Big difference there. With the bugs on private servers, you can probably hit 100k.

[IPlayWoW]

Lol 25k with affi, bullshit. But yeah, private server.

My highest ret pally burst has totaled upto 30165, it was on a naked lvl 70 mage, he was dead before the burst was over but it still counted it up. First time I ever saw a melee class hit a 5 digit white. That was self buffed only also, trinket (berserker's call, 300 something AP, I forgot o.O), avenging wrath (+30% damage) and blessing of might (improved for 264 AP bonus). The char I did it with is the one in my sig, but he's pvp spec retri and in pvp gear so his stats are hugely gimped, since we killed KJ I've been pvp'ing >_<

Highest shaman burst, about 6k, shitty gear and bad WF crits, so nothing special.

Highest hunter crit, 6k or so aimed shot :p But the survival rotation doesn't include that in it, it was just a random test on someone.

Everything else isn't worth mentioning, just your usual that gear level crits.

[Woodland]

Don't be jealous of us clearing sunwell, jeans.

Also, it took you that long to get to curator? =/

How many wipes did you have man?!

But gl with kara tbh, can be a pain in the ass for new guilds/new raiders. After the first clear it's pretty piss, lol.
Yeah took us that long, but like I said it was most peoples first time. We wiped atleast once on each boss except Moroes (strangely enough).. We did die on Attunmen but that's because people didn't follow properly then easily nailed second time.

I was pissed though necky didn't drop when we downed Maiden =[

Opera event was our best boss fight, I mean who doesn't like fighting the 'Big Bad Wolf' Lol xD

[FreddyAdu23]

Wow lmao, losing on any boss in kara expect maybe Netherspite is sad lol.
Only time my guild wipes is when the tank pulls when no one is rdy/a healer/tank d/c in middle of boss fight.

[Wisher]

in a pretty good pug we only wiped 3 times and that was on prince..bad hellfire placement can make most groups wipe

[Kyir]

It's okay, WoW's been 100% easy mode since TBC anyway.

[IPlayWoW]

Yeah took us that long, but like I said it was most peoples first time. We wiped atleast once on each boss except Moroes (strangely enough).. We did die on Attunmen but that's because people didn't follow properly then easily nailed second time.

I was pissed though necky didn't drop when we downed Maiden =[

Opera event was our best boss fight, I mean who doesn't like fighting the 'Big Bad Wolf' Lol xD

I hate karazhan, but watching a guildy run around as a female gnome and getting chased by a wolf never ceases to amuse me. In other words it's pretty bloody funny.
Especially if we happen to get it when I'm on my belf pally instead, and watching a cow or orc get gnomed just adds to the hilarity of it :cool:
Last time I did kara with The Logical Cube (KJ kill guild) we burnt every boss down in under 3 mins, prince, NS and NB included :p

[Woodland]

Wow lmao, losing on any boss in kara expect maybe Netherspite is sad lol.
Only time my guild wipes is when the tank pulls when no one is rdy/a healer/tank d/c in middle of boss fight.
Sorry Mr. I've never wiped on any Kara boss at all. Fag.

[FreddyAdu23]

in a pretty good pug we only wiped 3 times and that was on prince..bad hellfire placement can make most groups wipe
Thats true,

[Wisher]

some people just suck. both of our tanks died on one mob in a pug. i need to go with my guild not these damn pugs >.<

[IPlayWoW]

That's down to nooby healers and not knowing how to play. Though, I dare say, being a pug, that the tanks weren't even raid ready stat wise.

Wow lmao, losing on any boss in kara expect maybe Netherspite is sad lol.
Only time my guild wipes is when the tank pulls when no one is rdy/a healer/tank d/c in middle of boss fight.

Tbh, go and 1 shot bosses in BT and Sunwell before calling people bad.

Oh and as for prince infernals, they are fucking lame 90% of the time. They always seem to fuck me over :dry:

[Dream]

So I want to buy WoW...

But I have a question: Is it really that addicting? Is it only for people who let it? I don't want to waste my life but I want a new game...

Should I buy it? >.<

[Wisher]

That's down to nooby healers and not knowing how to play. Though, I dare say, being a pug, that the tanks weren't even raid ready stat wise.



Tbh, go and 1 shot bosses in BT and Sunwell before calling people bad.

Oh and as for prince infernals, they are fucking lame 90% of the time. They always seem to fuck me over :dry:

The tanks were decently geared, i think they only stacked stam tho and their defense rating was pretty low. the only time i've done prince 3 times or something we wiped cz infernals were basically on top of the melee DPS.

So I want to buy WoW...

But I have a question: Is it really that addicting? Is it only for people who let it? I don't want to waste my life but I want a new game...

Should I buy it? >.<

its pretty addicting but you have to realize how much time your spending on it. I used to play all day but now im cutting back

[Dream]

If my goal was just like 2 hours a day do you think I could hold to that or is the game more addicting?

[The Coder]

Lol 25k with affi, bullshit. But yeah, private server.

My highest ret pally burst has totaled upto 30165, it was on a naked lvl 70 mage, he was dead before the burst was over but it still counted it up. First time I ever saw a melee class hit a 5 digit white. That was self buffed only also, trinket (berserker's call, 300 something AP, I forgot o.O), avenging wrath (+30% damage) and blessing of might (improved for 264 AP bonus). The char I did it with is the one in my sig, but he's pvp spec retri and in pvp gear so his stats are hugely gimped, since we killed KJ I've been pvp'ing >_<

Highest shaman burst, about 6k, shitty gear and bad WF crits, so nothing special.

Highest hunter crit, 6k or so aimed shot :p But the survival rotation doesn't include that in it, it was just a random test on someone.

Everything else isn't worth mentioning, just your usual that gear level crits.

450 AP total from Berserker's Call. 90 base 360 added. Anyway, nice.

[Wisher]

If my goal was just like 2 hours a day do you think I could hold to that or is the game more addicting?

You should be good then. You will probably want to play more to get to the next level or something but if you don't want to be very addicted i'd say 2-3 hours per day is good

[Spirit_Monger]

I don't find it that addicting at all anymore.

I usually spend 2-3 hours on it when I do play as well, which isn't every day.
Occasionally I'll want to spend more time, or if BG's are going well I'll keep playing for a longer time. But that isn't too often.

You should be good.

[Dream]

Ok good. I mean, I have soccer, and it's summer...and a new gf (hopefully)...

Now..what server should I join on.. does it matter?

[IPlayWoW]

PvP or PvE realm, do NOT join an RP realm unless you're an RP geek tbh.
Also, if you plan on raiding, you'll be spending at least 6-7 hours on it. I've had to raid for 14 and a half hours straight when we were progressing BT as we were fighting for server and battlegroup firsts, which we got in the end anyway on the last 5 bosses.

[***Duo***]

I don't find it that addicting at all anymore.

I usually spend 2-3 hours on it when I do play as well, which isn't every day.
Occasionally I'll want to spend more time, or if BG's are going well I'll keep playing for a longer time. But that isn't too often.

You should be good.

Age of Conan.


-Duo

[Spirit_Monger]

Yeah ... I don't plan on raiding because of how long it will take. ;)

Don't plan on getting started on a new game anytime soon either.
If I'm not playing WoW, I likely wont play anything at all.

[IPlayWoW]

Well, put it this way, hardcore raiders usually spend a fair few hours of the evening and sometimes early morning in raids, like with my guild our raid hours are 20.00-00.00 and upto 2-3am if we're pushing new bosses or server/battlegroup firsts and about 5-7 times a week.

Normal raiders usually spend maybe 3-4 hours at night raiding about 2-4 times a week.

Casual raiders are usually those who raid 1-2 times a week for about 2-4 hours.

Then there are people who don't raid who usually just BG at 70 and get their S1 (S2 soon) sets for honor or just do an instance or socialise etc.

Arena whores do not count what so ever.

The amazing thing is, it's usually the casual raiders who spend the most time on wow more than hardcore raiders. Mainly due to the fact we get tired of wow because of raiding so much, the amount of week long breaks we take from raiding and just log on to say hi etc is quite high.

There's the low down from an apparent no life hardcore raider ;)

[FreddyAdu23]

Im probably a normal raider according to that.

[Megabyte]

Age of Conan.


-Duo

Eh, I give it a 7

[IPlayWoW]

I still give it a 0.

[Spirit_Monger]

If I do raid I'd have to fall in the casual category, with a slim chance at being normal every now and then.
But there aren't any guilds I've found who are casual on my server, and I'm not paying for a transfer. So I'll stick with BG and Arena I suppose. :p

[The Coder]

PvP or PvE realm, do NOT join an RP realm unless you're an RP geek tbh.
Also, if you plan on raiding, you'll be spending at least 6-7 hours on it. I've had to raid for 14 and a half hours straight when we were progressing BT as we were fighting for server and battlegroup firsts, which we got in the end anyway on the last 5 bosses.

Jesus christ mate, did you collapse afterwards?

[Megabyte]

I thought the RP geek line was amusing as hell. My main horde server is lightninghoof (RPPVP)...there is no RP on it. RP'ers are as rare there as they are on any other server, and equally avoided. The only real sign I ever saw of them was a guild called "Hand of Luukos" or some such, who would at times just yell "Praise Luukos!" randomly in the cities.

The basic difference between an RP server and a non-RP server is name limitation, which is something I'd like to see put into practice on all the servers anyways.

[IPlayWoW]

Nah, just little tired but cigs and coffee kept me awake. I was getting a little grumpy by the end of it, people would say something to me on vent and all they'd get was "heh" or "fuck off" :p

[The Coder]

I thought the RP geek line was amusing as hell. My main horde server is lightninghoof (RPPVP)...there is no RP on it. RP'ers are as rare there as they are on any other server, and equally avoided. The only real sign I ever saw of them was a guild called "Hand of Luukos" or some such, who would at times just yell "Praise Luukos!" randomly in the cities.

The basic difference between an RP server and a non-RP server is name limitation, which is something I'd like to see put into practice on all the servers anyways.

Eh. I'd say there's slightly more experienced and mature players. Not my people that aren't lore folks start there.

[IPlayWoW]

I still hate RP realms :p

EDIT: Give weekly reset! I want my 2h sword from KJ!

Btw, has anyone tried farming D2 at all in any times of WoW either pre BC or in BC? Doing it now on my belf paladin (due to extreme boredom with nothing new to kill on my main pally) along with grinding T2 and TF.
It's some really ridiculously long questline and a shitload of strat/scholo/LBRS/UBRS farming for the original D1 set (lightforge). Currently have 3/8 of the D2 set.
So, has anyone else done this and can shed some light on possible quicker ways to get it?
Currently doing the farming with a couple guildies and my current gf (irl not game :dry:) who I actually rerolled the belf with (she's a rogue) and it's taking ridiculously long.
What im saying is...
GIEF ADVICE PLOX!

[Volcom]

i upgraded a few of my shadowcraft pre Bc, was kinda pointless. just cost money and time, for something that wasn't that much of an upgrade. Imo, doing it now, would be even more pointless.
id much rather try and find PUG groups to Mc or Bwl or somthing than waste time in old 'dungeons' for d1 &2

[FreddyAdu23]

Ya do Naxx, and get gear from there it is so much more fun, MC, or get a couple of 70's (bout 5-7) to run u through ZG.

[Wisher]

do realms go down for maitinence (yes i spelled that wrong) every tuesday? ><

[Megabyte]

I still hate RP realms :p

EDIT: Give weekly reset! I want my 2h sword from KJ!

Btw, has anyone tried farming D2 at all in any times of WoW either pre BC or in BC? Doing it now on my belf paladin (due to extreme boredom with nothing new to kill on my main pally) along with grinding T2 and TF.
It's some really ridiculously long questline and a shitload of strat/scholo/LBRS/UBRS farming for the original D1 set (lightforge). Currently have 3/8 of the D2 set.
So, has anyone else done this and can shed some light on possible quicker ways to get it?
Currently doing the farming with a couple guildies and my current gf (irl not game :dry:) who I actually rerolled the belf with (she's a rogue) and it's taking ridiculously long.
What im saying is...
GIEF ADVICE PLOX!



It'll take ridiculously long, no real shortcuts about it. Best you can do if look up old style farm tactics for the specific bosses.

[Ignition]

I still hate RP realms :p

EDIT: Give weekly reset! I want my 2h sword from KJ!

Btw, has anyone tried farming D2 at all in any times of WoW either pre BC or in BC? Doing it now on my belf paladin (due to extreme boredom with nothing new to kill on my main pally) along with grinding T2 and TF.
It's some really ridiculously long questline and a shitload of strat/scholo/LBRS/UBRS farming for the original D1 set (lightforge). Currently have 3/8 of the D2 set.
So, has anyone else done this and can shed some light on possible quicker ways to get it?
Currently doing the farming with a couple guildies and my current gf (irl not game :dry:) who I actually rerolled the belf with (she's a rogue) and it's taking ridiculously long.
What im saying is...
GIEF ADVICE PLOX!
YOU KNOW MY PAIN!!! I try SOOOO hard every fucking week to get a damn MC run for my TF (guilded or otherwise) /sigh...

GL my friend GL..

[Volcom]

i thought you were a pala ?
give up and go heal someone ..


Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh. yes im narrow minded, paladins heal. nothing else. anything else and they fail.. ohhhh again.. ohhhh

[Megabyte]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh. yes im narrow minded, paladins heal. nothing else. anything else and they fail.. ohhhh again.. ohhhh

Roll one and do it or shut up, just like any other class.

[Wisher]

amazing pug kara-ness but i had to go. it really irritates me that i rolled an 8 on steelhawk crossbow and a douche bag full pvp geared rogue rolls on it and gets a 12. im confused why he needs that for PVP, whatever

[Volcom]

its coz its purple

[FreddyAdu23]

Pallies make healers better then there other specs... Tank is next in line and then ret...

I know IPlayWow is going to yell at me but who cares, ive got a 40 pally and thats my opinion.

[AlabamaBoy]

That's why you need a trustworthy loot master.

[IPlayWoW]

i upgraded a few of my shadowcraft pre Bc, was kinda pointless. just cost money and time, for something that wasn't that much of an upgrade. Imo, doing it now, would be even more pointless.
id much rather try and find PUG groups to Mc or Bwl or somthing than waste time in old 'dungeons' for d1 &2

It's mainly a project for just a set for looks and show off, not for any kind of gear. It's out of boredom, taking a raiding break from SWP for a while, so something to do.

Ya do Naxx, and get gear from there it is so much more fun, MC, or get a couple of 70's (bout 5-7) to run u through ZG.

Belf pally is 70 and ssc/tk quality geared so boosting is more like me boosting them ;)
Can solo a lot of MC and ZG tbh, already done it. Managed to pull off a bit of solo'ing in naxx on the spider wing trash, was proud lol.
He's 50/11/0 redoubt holy also so has a huge survivability rate, as good as or better than a prot pallys survivabilty.

do realms go down for maitinence (yes i spelled that wrong) every tuesday? ><

Yes they do.

It'll take ridiculously long, no real shortcuts about it. Best you can do if look up old style farm tactics for the specific bosses.

Yeah, will do, ta :)

YOU KNOW MY PAIN!!! I try SOOOO hard every fucking week to get a damn MC run for my TF (guilded or otherwise) /sigh...

GL my friend GL..

Done, just need to kill Prince Thunderaan (spelling is wrong i think but idc) and I got my shinyness :happy:

Pallies make healers better then there other specs... Tank is next in line and then ret...

I know IPlayWow is going to yell at me but who cares, ive got a 40 pally and thats my opinion.

Yes, pallys are amazing healers, amazing multi target tanks and also very capable of MT'ing. But ret is on a whole other level.
When you roll a 2h dps class and out dps casters and other so called "top dps" and prove a point that the underdogs can obliterate the dps charts, it feels good.
The problem with ret pallys is this and only this: Too many nubs who have no fucking idea how to play retri pallys and the fact they are amazingly gear dependant.
Yes, they can do sick damage at T4/T5 level raiding, but once you have a T6/SWP geared ret pally there isn't much that can top them.
I believe I have a screenshot of mine somewhere on the brutallus fight, which is purely a dps race against the enrage timer so everyone goes berserk with their damage. I was #1 on damage by about 200k and had 2918.23 sustained dps, over 500 more than the person who was 2nd which happened to be a 0/21/40 desto lock.
Another thing is a decent ret pally is actually hard to find due to the top raid guilds usually only have 1-2 permanent ret raiders (I was one of the lucky ones).

On another note, next week we should have a video up on Youtube of us downing KJ, I'll post it if anyone is interested ;)

[Megabyte]

Hence the main reason I never went ret on my pally, I simply wasn't willing to invest the time in getting decent gear.

Also why my pally doesn't arena at all, too lazy to invest the time getting rocked until I get the gear on him.

[zz99]

I may have asked this before, but I need to know.

I just want to make sure, how long can your account be inactive before it is deleted?

And by inactive, I mean it doesn't have a paid subscription.

I just want to make sure my account doesn't get deleted. I have a game card, but I don't know exactly how long it will be before my computer gets in, and I want to make sure I don't waste the game card, but if I have to use it to prevent my account from getting deleted, I'll use it.

[Megabyte]

until the game goes down, I imagine

Longest time I've seen running is about 2 years of inactivity. Blizz likes to encourage players to come back, especially after a while. Leave it down for 3 months and you can get a free month of playtime automatically.

[IPlayWoW]

Hence the main reason I never went ret on my pally, I simply wasn't willing to invest the time in getting decent gear.

Also why my pally doesn't arena at all, too lazy to invest the time getting rocked until I get the gear on him.

I was actually doing arena in T5 with a rogue in S2 and it went surprisingly well, hence why S3 was actually pretty quick to get.
Ret and rogue combo is awesome for extra SoC damage and higher bursts. A stunlocked healer with a ret pally beating down on it isn't going to last very long unless it's a healadin.
Though you do have a big luck factor in that setup due to SoC being a proc, the rogue not getting nuked and we haven't got a healer except for bad ret off heals here and there.

[FreddyAdu23]

The fact that they are gear dependent makes them bad till they get T5/T6, and my guild doesnt really want them till they get that kind of gear, one reason we are making stay as holy/prot till they get the gear, most will actually stay holy.

And arent ret pallies mana dependent, I heard that once they go oom they do little damage, but still more then say a oom caster but not that much. And a good ret pally is pretty good in arena, there hammer of justice (w/e the one that stuns target for X sec.) seems to last forever, and i bet that with a rogue means domination against any caster.

Post the s/s of Brut fight, and i want to see you guys down KJ.

[IPlayWoW]

Human pallys can have a bit of difficulty keeping their mana up, belf pallys have it a bit easier due to seal of blood. But at the same time, on most bosses there's a lot of damage done to the melee whether or not you get out the way quick enough, so spiritual attunement kicks in everytime you get healed you get +mana. Also every race, belfs too, as a retadin are going to be chain drinking super mana pots on CD even if you do know how to maintain your mana in a boss fight.
Saving mana is hard to explain but extremely easy really.
I'm looking for the brut screeny as we speak, I'll edit it in once I find it.
The KJ video is also being edited at the moment, we have about 5 different PoVs we need to edit in perfectly so it'll take a little time to have the video up and running, but once it's done I'll link it to you :)

[Spirit_Monger]

Almost 70 on my warlock. Only about 50% more to go.
My FPS sucks when I'm in Netherstorm for some reason though. somewhat of a pain but it gets better eventually.

In total I have a 14day+ /play time on the lock but that includes a lot of afk and bg time as well.

[FreddyAdu23]

Wow I got to 70 from lvl 58, by doing all the quests in hellfire, zangar, forest, nagrand, and like 10 quests in shadowmoon valley...

But glad to see you finally getting to 70, time for bgs to own if ur horde, and suck ass if your alliance. Thats why the good alliance players do arena/PvE/premades

[Spirit_Monger]

Yeah. This was my first 70 and since I only played for a few hours, like 2, each day I never really got a lot of the leveling done at once so it took a while.
I didn't do all the quests in zangarmarsh or terrokar though either.
Netherstorm isn't bad though.

[The Coder]

Gratz Spirit on reaching almost 70.

[Spirit_Monger]

Thanks.

So now that I'm 70, what should the agenda look like?

I guess things it would include would be getting geared for pve/pvp, running instances, working towards the epic flyer, finishing quests, doing dailies, maxing professions, etc.
But in what order should I be doing those exactly?

Here (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kel%27Thuzad&n=Mordechi) is my armory to, if it matters.
I know I'll need to respec for raiding. ;)
I was going to follow this (http://wowmb.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23586) guide for what gear to get.

Just don't know what exactly my priorities should be on.

[IPlayWoW]

Gear and money at the same time, then start working on your rep with all the important bc raiding factions, then go for any accessories such as epic flappy.

[FreddyAdu23]

Hmmm...

Get gear, by doing dailies, and running instances, hopefully H's so u get badges and thus can get urself easy BT gear. Epic flyer should be last on ur list (after u get shadoweave set, spellstrike set, belt of blasting, and others) I still dont have my epic flyer. =(

Get rep with who u need like Sha'tar get revered for head enchant, get exalted with aldor/scyer for shoulder enchant, and other bonuses.

[Spirit_Monger]

Alright. I'll prolly do raid gear first, maybe. Not totally sure though since now I'm more pvp specced ... I'll get torn apart whether or not I'm sl/sl but Bg's I think would at least be doable with my spec.

My guild is going to get ready to start kara sometime soon I think. Running old instances for right now.

Epic flyer doesn't look to be impossible for me.
I was 1/10 of the way there after I bought my first flyer earlier today. Earned about 400G today I guess.
and if the AH strategy still works for me I should be in good shape money wise.

But for Kara ... damage should be like 800-900, and hit should be like, at least 150 or what?
If I respec I can bring it a lot closer to 202 with suppression.

[FreddyAdu23]

I started raiding kara with 600 shadow damage, and like no hit rating but my guild rocked and had it all on farm, but that is probably good till opera. If you want to do the whole instance you should probably be 800 or so, and im not sure about locks hit rating cause i have it in my talents, to reduce the amount of hit rating i need.

This my spriest.

[Spirit_Monger]

Yeah my guild hasn't done it yet though so I'll need at least 800. 700 would be stretching pretty badly I guess.
202 hit rating is the cap I think but I'm not sure how much suppression affects it.

Anyone know what hit rating I'd need for kara?

[IPlayWoW]

100-150 is sufficient.

[FreddyAdu23]

227 is the cap on hit rating (pretty sure)

[Spirit_Monger]

Thanks.

I think 202 is where it doesn't make a difference if you're any higher, at least for locks. Dunno if it varies for each class.
At least 202 is what I've been reading/seen so far.

Did spend like 500-600G to level enchanting today, about 140 points.
Didn't feel like doing it making tailoring greens since cloth can be pretty high priced on my server.
Made 800G off the AH overnight though so it's fine. But I'm really wishing i would have leveled it while i leveled since skinning didn't bring in tons of money for me.

[Spirit_Monger]

hit the post button twice i guess.
sorry. ;)

[Megabyte]

So I've been leveling this hunter on Mug'thol, which I don't have any other chars on as it's just a server I joined up with to play with a few friends.

How exactly does one "break into" raiding these days? Seems like everyone is looking for someone completely geared with T5+. I haven't had to actually start from scratch for a while now.

[FreddyAdu23]

First you get decent gear, and start kara, once you got kara on full farm, you start trying to kill the bosses in ZA, once your guild has 25+ kara geared people, you go for gruuls, and mag. Then once you get 25+ t4/kara/badges justice gear you go for t5 instances, and so on.

[Spirit_Monger]

I'd say try to find a guild who is just starting raiding and go from there.
That's pretty much what I'm doing and timing actually worked well for me, since I'm going to be able to raid about when my guild starts, and it looks like it will be pretty casual.

If you were looking to be in the same guild as friends just join up with them once you're caught up gear-wise, if you can't get in that guild or get in raids to improve gear.

[Wisher]

So I've been leveling this hunter on Mug'thol, which I don't have any other chars on as it's just a server I joined up with to play with a few friends.

How exactly does one "break into" raiding these days? Seems like everyone is looking for someone completely geared with T5+. I haven't had to actually start from scratch for a while now.

Run kara and heroics. that's all you need for good badge gear which should get you geared for za..then just progress with a guild.

[Wisher]

just made a really random spec on my druid. he's gonna be level 47 forever probably, all i do is bg with him. used to be full resto and went for a strange but good spec, works out great so far.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Executus&n=Rawrimevil

that's the armory.

[Woodland]

Haha.. <3 your guild.

[Wisher]

tis the best on the server!

[Megabyte]

First you get decent gear, and start kara, once you got kara on full farm, you start trying to kill the bosses in ZA, once your guild has 25+ kara geared people, you go for gruuls, and mag. Then once you get 25+ t4/kara/badges justice gear you go for t5 instances, and so on.

Ok, obviously you don't have a clue what I posted, you just saw "raid progression" and spewed out that one...

I didn't ask what raid progression is, I asked how to break into raiding on a new char/server (not starting a raid guild). Everyone seems to only want T5+ peeps only these days, which sorta negates the ability to gear up and work the ladder.


I suppose I could just get to the point where I was geared as best as I could be from norms, pug heroics and farm badges to get gear, THEN join a raid guild...but that feels like it'd take forever.

[Wisher]

well do you know any tanks/healers that you know pretty well on the server? Cause that's all you need and you could PUG some dps for heroics, if you run all of them each day (even 1/4 or less of em) you can get a LOT of badges quickly. and kara is what..20+ badges, and you can PUG that as well.

[Spirit_Monger]

I'm thinking I'll be spending anywhere from 2000G - 3000G on enchanting. =\

Getting attuned for kara today to so I was going through slabs. Never want to run it again.
Worst group ever ... Took like 8 tries to down Vorpil.
Thank god some paly went afk so we picked up a rogue with decent gear.
Whole thing took like 3 hours ...
Definitely should have gotten a different group. =\

[AlabamaBoy]

lol... Normal slabs?

I four man'd heroic slabs on my resto shammy the other day.

[FreddyAdu23]

Megabyte if you dont want to start from kara, you going to have to do a hell of a lot of H's.

And reg slabs is pretty easy, H is one of the hardest H's besides mgt, and shat halls.

[Megabyte]

Getting attuned for kara today

why?

[Spirit_Monger]

Yeah ... Normal slabs. =\
The tank took forever to make the pulls to.

And our guild was going to be trying kara soon so I was going to get that out of the way.

[Megabyte]

You know everyone no longer needs the master key to enter kara, right?

Just need someone to have it so they can unlock the door for others.

[Spirit_Monger]

Yeah I remember hearing that somewhere.

I don't think anyone in my guild has it though so, someone needs to get attuned.

My guild should be doing the part after the shadow labs together tonight and finishing that up so I'll tag along. I need to go through dungeons anyway for more gear.

For kara gear though ... should I be running normal dungeons or heroics?
I'm a pretty big noob when it comes to 70 stuff right now. ;)