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The Coder
10-14-2008, 10:20 PM
So...

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=25895 +http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=58943 + http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=16309 is ftw.

Edit: Yea, ok so after looking, the duration still ends up at 50% like before, damnit...

Zander
10-14-2008, 10:21 PM
So...

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=25895 +http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=58943 + http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=16309 is ftw.
I'm not making a troll until after i'm done with my DK. :(

AlabamaBoy
10-14-2008, 10:34 PM
I'm making a troll death knight.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/deathknight/talents2.html?tal=00000000000000000000000000000505 00100000000000000000000230002335123115253151223103 100







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Zander
10-14-2008, 10:37 PM
Good, now I don't have to listen to you bitch about me taking the same one.

AlabamaBoy
10-14-2008, 10:38 PM
:-) I'm fine with you playing all the same classes as me.

Just not the same class, race, gender.

Zander
10-15-2008, 01:56 AM
http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=demonformcy0.jpg
Kick. Ass.

Woodland
10-15-2008, 03:20 AM
Aww, it's just a puffier version of Illidan. Dam Blizzard, could've used your imagination more.

Ignition
10-15-2008, 02:22 PM
Picked up everything I need to get my router working at my place (same router I've used in the past) and wouldn't you know it... I'm still internetless (posting from work still) and thus patchless :(

The Coder
10-15-2008, 04:18 PM
I can't wait until I can stay logged on for more than two seconds before it disconnects me.

Woodland
10-16-2008, 02:58 AM
Anyone else noticed how frigging stupidly buffed Ret paladins have become?

Maybe it's just me then...

Blexican
10-16-2008, 03:10 AM
Is there any way to farm alot of linen cloth at lvl 15 =P

Ignition
10-16-2008, 01:28 PM
Anyone else noticed how frigging stupidly buffed Ret paladins have become?

Maybe it's just me then...
Have you just been like... ignoring me and the only other pally -who also play DPS... ?
what have we been blabbering about?

Magician
10-16-2008, 01:30 PM
I'm liking my 22% crit, however. :)

IPlayWoW
10-16-2008, 03:57 PM
RET PALLY ROFLSTOMP INC!!!

OMFG I FUCKING LOVE IT! NERF US MAN!!

42.7K BURST!!!

Divine storm :wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:

FreddyAdu23
10-16-2008, 08:31 PM
Ya, i dont think im going to play WoW anymore its getting old, and i dont like some of the things in lich king they are doing. I played today on my spreist 4.1k mb, followed by 3.9k swd in pvp was pretty nice but still WoW is getting borning.

Kyir
10-16-2008, 08:34 PM
Inscription at 195 -_-, longest grind ever.

Zander
10-16-2008, 08:46 PM
I got mine up to 100 last night starting herb and inscript at the same time, not that bad.

The Coder
10-16-2008, 10:36 PM
Sooooooo lameee.... I can't get onto my chars each time I do I'm DC'd

Woodland
10-17-2008, 03:45 AM
Have you just been like... ignoring me and the only other pally -who also play DPS... ?
what have we been blabbering about?
I ignored you because BEFORE the patch they was complete shit. They couldn't DPS for anything.

Maybe Blizz noticed how noob you was and gave you a break. :)

Ignition
10-17-2008, 06:51 AM
Inscription at 195 -_-, longest grind ever.

I ignored you because BEFORE the patch they was complete shit. They couldn't DPS for anything.
What kind of stuff are you looking at for mats when leveling it? I'm picking it up this weekend (going home to DL the patch) is it mostly Herbs?
Maybe Blizz noticed how noob you was and gave you a break. :)
lawl, its people like you that give us bad rep, and people like myself and Iplay who ROFLSTOMP that rep. Even pre xpack patch

Woodland
10-17-2008, 01:21 PM
There's no need to have an upset with my opinion. What bugs me is that when people say their own opinion some get defensive and begin half arguing half qq'ing.

It's just my opinion yeah?

But I'm still sticking with BEFORE the patch they wasn't anything special, now Blizz felt sorry and buffed them it's much harder.

endless
10-17-2008, 01:38 PM
lawl, its people like you that give us bad rep, and people like myself and Iplay who ROFLSTOMP that rep. Even pre xpack patch

No kyle, im pretty sure its people like YOU who give yourself bad rep.

Just sayin'....

Lex
10-17-2008, 01:44 PM
No kyle, im pretty sure its people like YOU who give yourself bad rep.

Just sayin'....

Pwned...

I have no idea what anything in this thread means. =\ WoW looks confusing.

AlabamaBoy
10-17-2008, 01:53 PM
I'm making a pally tank.

My guild is powerleveling it with some other classes for wotlk.

Zander
10-17-2008, 03:51 PM
i'm making a pally tank.

My guild is powerleveling it with some other classes for wotlk.
dude, wtf.

AlabamaBoy
10-17-2008, 03:54 PM
It has to be done.

Woodland
10-17-2008, 05:49 PM
Funny thing about PUGs...

Went into ZA tonight with guild and nicely did full clear got two chests just because it's easier now with the NERF from Patch.

When that's done, got into Maggy pug and Clickers fail so bad. No one listens so timing of Cave in with Blast Nova sucked and we wiped twice. -_-

Zander
10-18-2008, 11:10 PM
63/64 warrior+70 rogue just tried to gank me while questing. Metamorphosis+killed them both.

-61 lock.

edit: nevermind, the warrior is lvl 60.

Blexican
10-19-2008, 12:59 AM
ok im lvl 20. with 1k gold. What kind of staple stuff do i need? I already bought 4 16 slot bags.

Zander
10-19-2008, 01:49 AM
-_-
gtfo.

Blexican
10-19-2008, 03:46 AM
What? i used to play another mmo and just xfered my amount in wow gold.

Riot-Girl
10-19-2008, 12:01 PM
I don't see the big fuss over WoW >_> Looks boring.

IPlayWoW
10-19-2008, 12:52 PM
I ignored you because BEFORE the patch they was complete shit. They couldn't DPS for anything.

Maybe Blizz noticed how noob you was and gave you a break. :)

Rofl, levi, seriously, you know we've been imba since the CS change to 110% wep dmg and no spelldamage in 2.3.
/shoo

lawl, its people like you that give us bad rep, and people like myself and Iplay who ROFLSTOMP that rep. Even pre xpack patch

Word :p

Blexican
10-19-2008, 01:25 PM
I don't see the big fuss over WoW >_> Looks boring.

its super boring if you dont have some good friends to play with.

Kyir
10-19-2008, 01:27 PM
I don't see the big fuss over WoW >_> Looks boring.

Thus, no one here cares what you have to say.

IPlayWoW
10-19-2008, 02:11 PM
I don't see the big fuss over WoW >_> Looks boring.

Seriously, if you haven't got anything to contribute, go away :)

ChainHeart
10-19-2008, 11:41 PM
is it me or is WoW buggy as hell due to the new patch =.=

Ignition
10-20-2008, 10:41 AM
Nope.


So Ret is going to be SOO easy to get raid spots now. I've done I have no idea how many Headless Horsemen runs Tanking, healing myself and topping DPS charts. LAWL!?

Still no mount and all I have left to do is get the hat, and do the south of East Kingdom and the title are mine! *Circu the Hallowed*

Ignition
10-20-2008, 12:29 PM
Iplay: what seals do you find do the most DPS over time? the new Dot one would be my assumption. and with the new glyph its command still doing the most burst not blood right?

AlabamaBoy
10-20-2008, 12:31 PM
are you online circu?

Malanimous has reverted back to level 10.

Lol.

camolots_guardi
10-20-2008, 01:48 PM
Im a hunter and i hate the game now :D

Kyir
10-20-2008, 03:23 PM
Nope.


So Ret is going to be SOO easy to get raid spots now. I've done I have no idea how many Headless Horsemen runs Tanking, healing myself and topping DPS charts. LAWL!?

Still no mount and all I have left to do is get the hat, and do the south of East Kingdom and the title are mine! *Circu the Hallowed*

Except Horseman only requires bandages to heal.

And you're getting nerfed.

endless
10-20-2008, 03:27 PM
Except Horseman only requires bandages to heal.

And you're getting nerfed.

Eherm...

TO THE GROUND BABY!!!!!

Ignition
10-21-2008, 10:31 AM
are you online circu?

Malanimous has reverted back to level 10.

Lol.
found out it's not my router. turns out the modem at the place I'm staying is old and dirt and wont work with my new Mac... So for a 3rd week I am with out internet and with out WOW QQ

Lex
10-21-2008, 07:01 PM
I'm totally better than all of you at WoW, 'nuff said. jk, i suck.

Zander
10-21-2008, 07:41 PM
Fux you and your 3x exp. :mad:

endless
10-21-2008, 07:42 PM
Fux you and your 3x exp. :mad:

he has to get to 22 before he gets 3x exp. :P

IPlayWoW
10-22-2008, 07:30 AM
Iplay: what seals do you find do the most DPS over time? the new Dot one would be my assumption. and with the new glyph its command still doing the most burst not blood right?

Seal dancing is the way forward.
Seal of corruption stacked x5.
Seal of command with the glyph of command.
Seal of corruption again when it runs out.
Seal of command.
Rinse and repeat.
Imba dps now!

Blexican
10-22-2008, 08:56 AM
at 30 can i get a epic mount? Or are there level requirements for that stuff.

Oh and what makes a weapon glow or look different than most weapons?

endless
10-22-2008, 09:38 AM
at 30 can i get a epic mount? Or are there level requirements for that stuff.
30 you get your 75 riding skill, not epic, you get epic at 60, and you can fly at 70.
Oh and what makes a weapon glow or look different than most weapons?
Certain enchants to your weapons do that, I.E. Unholy (http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=20033)



:)

Woodland
10-22-2008, 05:17 PM
Mongoose ftw...

It's dead funny lately. Before my serv Daggerspine was proper shit (still is but anyway). You'd struggle to Pug Maggy or Gruul with a decent group to clear it. Now there's one going everyday almost and people are pugging and downing SSC/TK.

Weird what one boss nerf patch does.

On my Holyadin healed Void Reaver and Vashj but lost out with noobie rolls on T5 helm and shoulders =[ QQ major.

Only thing I'm doing now is building Retadin gear to level with.

endless
10-22-2008, 10:04 PM
The world event is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zombies ftw!

Lex
10-22-2008, 10:09 PM
Stupid zombies, they kept picking on me =[

Ignition
10-23-2008, 06:46 AM
The world event is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zombies ftw!
STFU about a game I'm in love with and still cant play!

FUCK its the week after I get into the 2nd top raiding guild on my server they give me the hole "we like you, we are recurting you as a core healadin and will be gearing you out so you can help us progress in SWP" and then I go and move to a place with STILL no internet FUCK ME!

Zander
10-23-2008, 06:48 AM
Yes, endless, stfu about wow in the wow thread.

Kyir
10-23-2008, 10:39 AM
Yeah, so about those zombies.

Me and 5 other people rendered Tarren Mill uninhabitable for about an entire day with a zombie zerg big enough to replicate it's self indefinatly.

Go us.

endless
10-23-2008, 12:17 PM
I did the same in northshire. All the poor n00bs...

Ignition
10-23-2008, 01:05 PM
So the invasion ends when we wrath of the litch king is released?

talking to the opposite faction looks pretty sweet too!

IPlayWoW
10-24-2008, 07:18 AM
It is.
I was lol'ing at an alliance zombie style after he tried killing me as an ally to hordie.

Blexican
10-24-2008, 01:10 PM
Ive been victim of zombies in like every town at one point. i fly there, and BAM im dead. then i got zombie >_>

Ignition
10-24-2008, 02:18 PM
I'm going home this weekend (tonight) and I'll probably be on all weekend to finish up my "the hallowed" title

IPlayWoW
10-25-2008, 05:03 PM
I'm still working on it.
I just can't get the fucking pet, hallowed helm and toothpicks no matter how hard i try -_-
I hate blizz sometimes!
Everything else I've actually done. Oh well :dry:
I'll just get Battlemaster and Conqueror instead.

ChainHeart
10-25-2008, 05:24 PM
;/ i wonder if the achievement pts will ever be used for anything

seems this is just a lot of "empty" content to keep players interested. getting an annoucement for achievements really doesnt motivate me enough to finish them =(

Kyir
10-25-2008, 05:41 PM
;/ i wonder if the achievement pts will ever be used for anything

seems this is just a lot of "empty" content to keep players interested. getting an annoucement for achievements really doesnt motivate me enough to finish them =(

You will be able to buy tabards, mounts, titles, etc.

Woodland
10-25-2008, 06:46 PM
Swear I hate the bullshit of WoW sometimes.

Lost out on T5 Shoulders in TK and Helm in SSC today. Then the T6 hands the other day in Hyjal.

ARGH! Hate rolling crap when it comes to stuff like this.

Kyir
10-25-2008, 09:16 PM
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8307/guitarfl4.jpg

Zander
10-25-2008, 09:39 PM
Am I the only that's going to start a DK before leveling to 80? :|

Lex
10-25-2008, 09:40 PM
Am I the only that's going to start a DK before leveling to 80? :|

Yes.

Zander
10-25-2008, 09:43 PM
Well, I'm tired of my lock.:angry:

Lex
10-25-2008, 09:46 PM
Well, I'm tired of my lock.:angry:

Make an ally on Alexstraza =]

Magician
10-25-2008, 09:56 PM
Halfway through 68 :happy:

endless
10-26-2008, 03:18 AM
Im a skeleton wand and a 3.0.3 patch away from my title.

IPlayWoW
10-26-2008, 06:16 AM
Swear I hate the bullshit of WoW sometimes.

Lost out on T5 Shoulders in TK and Helm in SSC today. Then the T6 hands the other day in Hyjal.

ARGH! Hate rolling crap when it comes to stuff like this.

Ouch :rofl:

Kyir
10-26-2008, 01:22 PM
So anyway...

Guitar Axe.

Blexican
10-26-2008, 02:13 PM
im jealous. I wish my undead warlock could rock out like that.

AlabamaBoy
10-26-2008, 04:16 PM
I'm lacking a squashling.

The Coder
10-26-2008, 08:29 PM
I haven't been on WoW for nearly 2 weeks now, accursed inability to connect.

endless
10-26-2008, 08:54 PM
Phase 6, wewt!

Lex
10-26-2008, 08:55 PM
Stupid shadowfang keep, i died 8 times trying to get there, and then was too afraid to go in =\

bloodreign
10-26-2008, 09:03 PM
I love shadowfang keep, and the surrounding area for my herbalism.

19 twink ftw.

Kyir
10-26-2008, 09:22 PM
I love shadowfang keep, and the surrounding area for my herbalism.

19 twink ftw.

Too bad PvP kills will provide a tiny amount of experience in the expansion.

Zander
10-26-2008, 10:07 PM
too bad pvp kills will provide a tiny amount of experience in the expansion.
yes!

Volcom
10-27-2008, 05:58 AM
Phase 6, wewt!

6 ? i only count 5.. if im think of the same thing as you !

Zander
10-27-2008, 06:21 AM
There are 5 million zombies standing between me and imbued netherweave bolts. :mad:

IPlayWoW
10-27-2008, 07:01 AM
Zombies ftl.
Shatt is even more laggy than usual :dry:
It pisses me off something mad, lucky I'm a pally really, cos I can just cleanse the infections and/or bubble it.
But seriously the amount of zombies that I've had hit me in major cities, meh -_-

Lex
10-27-2008, 08:44 PM
>=[ I can't play WoW atm and i have no idea why, I was playing earlier, as i said yesterday i logged out in front of shadow fang keep because i was scared to go in but needed to for this pally quest, so i log in, and endless is all afk, so i invite as many random people as i can to join my group so i can hopefully get a run through.

Eventually a level 26 pally joins, who is also looking to do the quest, so i'm like sweet, he tells me to invite his lvl 70 rogue friend, so i'm like double sweet. We run through get our smithing hammer, get some other decent/cool gear, then finish the instance and part our ways.

Upon completion i hearth back to shatt city. (i'm level 21 i have this thingy cause Endless summoned me to shatt to get the hearth because, quote,"you can teleport to all the major cities." and i was liek cool, he's level 70 he knows what's good for me.)

Well as soon as i hearthed in I get disconnected and now i can't for the life of me log back in, everytime i try, i get a 200+ queue, and when i click enter realm, my character spawns, all the other players and the npcs aren't moving and if i try to talk to anyone i get d/c.

Anyone know what's up? My guess is that the combination of zombie lag + server lag + my fairly bad connection = too laggy to play...

or Blizzard hates me =\

I was only one step away from finishing that quest and getting my cool Verigan's Fist. >=[

I blame Endless for putting me in an area i'm too low a level to ever be in.

Edit: Tried again an hour later, still no good, damn you Neddy.

Zander
10-27-2008, 09:39 PM
Shattrath is a glitch city, endless intentionally screwed you over.

endless
10-27-2008, 09:47 PM
Shattrath is a glitch city, endless intentionally screwed you over.

You are retarded.

Lex
10-27-2008, 09:48 PM
You are retarded.

Log on the account and move my paladin out of shatt and see if that helps. =\

endless
10-27-2008, 09:56 PM
Log on the account and move my paladin out of shatt and see if that helps. =\

Already did.

Lex
10-27-2008, 10:02 PM
Already did.

That helped, but the lag still kicked me out, hopefully the server change will fix it more. =\

Zander
10-28-2008, 05:33 AM
You are retarded.
You're retarded.:(

IPlayWoW
10-28-2008, 03:12 PM
WTB Xpac :dry:
WoW sucks balls atm.
Raids are nerfed = Boring.
Zombies make us lag = Fail.
HH won't drop my pet = Gay.
Ret gets owned in pvp unless we burst = Meh.
#1 dmg in SSC in shit gear = Win, though.

endless
10-28-2008, 04:20 PM
GETTING NERF'D.

TO THE GROUND.

By the way you can get the Squashling out of the ToT Bags. Thats where i got mine.

Zander
10-28-2008, 04:31 PM
dreadsteed = automatic level 61 summon = Fucking stupid. -_-

Lex
10-28-2008, 05:43 PM
So... I guess my pally's glitched or something?

Whenever i log on to my pally nothing moves, no one talks and if i try to interact i get booted, after i get booted i can't open a browser/ log into aim or anything. So after i reboot my internet works fine, so i log back into wow, but get onto a different account on the same server and it works fine... So i guess blizzard hates level 21 paladins?

endless
10-28-2008, 05:59 PM
Get off so i can fix it.

Lex
10-28-2008, 06:00 PM
Get off so i can fix it.

Fix what?

endless
10-28-2008, 06:00 PM
give me a sec, to see what the issue is.

edit: works fine here, try again.

Edit2: Try restarting your comp.

Lex
10-28-2008, 06:10 PM
give me a sec, to see what the issue is.

edit: works fine here, try again.

Same fucking thing, log in, attempt to interact, get booted, internet on that computer becomes completely useless, whereas the internet still works perfectly on my laptop... Fuck you blizzard.

Edit: I have to restart my computer after everytime i've been disconnected. In all, 12ish times today...

endless
10-28-2008, 06:11 PM
Same fucking thing, log in, attempt to interact, get booted, internet on that computer becomes completely useless, whereas the internet still works perfectly on my laptop... Fuck you blizzard.

Edit: I have to restart my computer after everytime i've been disconnected. In all, 12ish times today...

Yeah it has something to do with your retarded comp...

Kyir
10-28-2008, 06:12 PM
Same fucking thing, log in, attempt to interact, get booted, internet on that computer becomes completely useless, whereas the internet still works perfectly on my laptop... Fuck you blizzard.

Edit: I have to restart my computer after everytime i've been disconnected. In all, 12ish times today...

It's the WTF folder.

It's funny because that's actually it's name.

Someone at Blizz has a sense of humor.

endless
10-28-2008, 06:13 PM
It's the WTF folder.

It's funny because that's actually it's name.

Someone at Blizz has a sense of humor.

go to c:/program files/world of warcraft/wtf and delete everything in there

Lex
10-28-2008, 06:38 PM
Where's blizzard hq, i wanna send them a letter with some anthrax in it.

endless
10-28-2008, 07:10 PM
Just give ghostcrawler a BJ, im sure he'll fix it for you.

Lex
10-28-2008, 07:13 PM
I'd rather ruin everyone else's fun since i can't play anymore.

AlabamaBoy
10-28-2008, 10:25 PM
Blizzard can kiss my ass. I worked so damn hard for my dreadsteed.

There are a few ways to tell a bad lock, and one of them is whether or not they have a dreadsteed.

Woodland
10-29-2008, 04:39 AM
Ouch :rofl:
Yeah yeah who cares in Hyjal pug on Druid got Pillar of Ferocity. =]

Potting in bear form ftw.

IPlayWoW
10-29-2008, 04:49 AM
And the badge one is better... GG.
So, me and my fiance did that link up thing (cheating leveling cos we cba to do oldschool style leveling), can anyone shed some light on how good/bad this is?

Woodland
10-29-2008, 05:01 AM
Well, any noobcake can get 150 badges. Especially a Druid....

May take a few attempts to get Pillar staff cuz he drops other shiz too ;O

Me = Lucky first time.

IPlayWoW
10-29-2008, 05:07 AM
Yeah, grats no doubt, is a shitty drop rate. Also a nice staff, definitely. Badge and pillar are near enough on par anyway tbh.

Ignition
10-29-2008, 06:40 AM
Once you hit like 40 or 50 something just grind instances really that easy. Even more so if you can get a 70 to run you x4 exp is pretty epic when your alt is on fallow in BRD being lead by a 70 buddy of yours while you raid on your main. Leveling couldn't be easyer

IPlayWoW
10-29-2008, 07:23 AM
I rerolled with my fiance to be with a few old mates from an old realm on alliance, 70 retadin and 70 mage/warrior, they've said they'll boost us so inc huge xp.
Plus we made quite an awesome 2v2 combo, warrior + priest.
IRWarrior, watch me dualwield 2 2handers... Heh, as if! Bladestorm or nothin!

Ignition
10-29-2008, 01:29 PM
Before you give up on Ret flat out for your new Alt, I'd like to go over seals one last time with you. Glyph or not I still think that Corruption or Blood are going to do more DPS, simply because there is getting to be much faster 2h weapons meaning much faster attack speeds. And seeing where Command is based on a proc-per-minute (or so I last read) wouldn't something like Blood and a REAL slow 2h be much more consistent DPS. Especially with the integrations of a 2nd instant attack. I'd think high top-end damage on a slow weapon would be ideal?

IPlayWoW
10-29-2008, 03:14 PM
Actually, the faster the weapon (haste effects) and blood/martyr (ally name for it) are the highest dps output for a retadin. Geared or not. I found, with Jin'rohk (base 3.55 with the equip haste) and WF totem + ret aura with 3% haste talent taking it down to 2.96 speed, blood gave me 300+ dps extra over command. I averaged in SSC 1.3k sustained dps with command, but with blood I averaged 1.6-1.7k sustained. So, provided you have haste, command glyph or not, you WILL do more sustained dps and overall more damage with blood. In other words, if you're buffed/geared with haste as Ret, blood is the way to go, but if you are not, command is better for sustained. Hope that clears some things up for you.

The Coder
10-29-2008, 09:11 PM
I just heard a druid think about rerolling shammy for massive earthbind + frost shock kiting. I nearly shit myself

Woodland
10-30-2008, 05:45 AM
Mongoose proc on Druids now ftw? gg...

IPlayWoW
10-30-2008, 06:06 AM
Yet they still suck

Volcom
10-30-2008, 07:51 AM
And the badge one is better... GG.
So, me and my fiance did that link up thing (cheating leveling cos we cba to do oldschool style leveling), can anyone shed some light on how good/bad this is?

its extremely awsome. the Xp from mobs is crazy, in your starting area you get to lvl 4 within 10mobs and 2 quests. .. and at later lvls, the Quest XP is just insaine.

Ignition
10-30-2008, 12:21 PM
Actually, the faster the weapon (haste effects) and blood/martyr (ally name for it) are the highest dps output for a retadin. Geared or not. I found, with Jin'rohk (base 3.55 with the equip haste) and WF totem + ret aura with 3% haste talent taking it down to 2.96 speed, blood gave me 300+ dps extra over command. I averaged in SSC 1.3k sustained dps with command, but with blood I averaged 1.6-1.7k sustained. So, provided you have haste, command glyph or not, you WILL do more sustained dps and overall more damage with blood. In other words, if you're buffed/geared with haste as Ret, blood is the way to go, but if you are not, command is better for sustained. Hope that clears some things up for you.
So... seeing as I've decided (and thanks for your help, it confirmed my thoughts) what would you recommend replacing that shitty Command Glyph with? the Crusaders Strike glyph? Even though almost no PvE mobs are ever incapacitated in any way aside form sheeps... unless I just go around breaking sheeps... Hmm..

Blexican
10-30-2008, 04:54 PM
Will daggers or wands ever really help in pvp? for a warlock

The Coder
10-30-2008, 05:38 PM
Duh, the massive +melee damage is ftw

Woodland
10-30-2008, 06:07 PM
Yet they still suck
Stfu noob...

You'd change your opinion for a Resto Druid...

Zander
10-30-2008, 06:26 PM
Will daggers or wands ever really help in pvp? for a warlock
At the early levels, craftable wands are definitely overpowered for you, yet very available. Daggers - I just went through an instance a few days ago that had 20 more spellpower on its own than my *new* quest reward staff did, so I paired it up with a shitty off-hand and came out with a better bonus than my staff had. What level are you up to now? There's a good off-hand in SM graveyard, and a good dagger drop in SM library that you should look to put together if you're around level 30.

...but no, I don't ever physically attack with my dagger/staff unless I'm dicking around, and I only wand if I'm being lazy as shat. And that's PVE. So no. Not pvp.

IPlayWoW
11-03-2008, 05:56 AM
So... seeing as I've decided (and thanks for your help, it confirmed my thoughts) what would you recommend replacing that shitty Command Glyph with? the Crusaders Strike glyph? Even though almost no PvE mobs are ever incapacitated in any way aside form sheeps... unless I just go around breaking sheeps... Hmm..

Crusader strike glyph, useful for pvp aswell.

Ignition
11-03-2008, 06:37 AM
its funny because I'll ask a qustion here then go read so much shit about it I'm practically an expert. Then you reply to my question and its always the came conclusion I've come to :p

Heres another good one. my guild still isn't 100% sure what they want to do with me, so I ask you this: do you think prot will be a viable leveling spec for a pally? Even though you'd guess that a DPS spec would be best.. I mean I repseced prot for the first time since the patch LOVED IT. Ran heroics all day and pretty much out DPSed most of the pug groups (no they where not all badies) so I got to wondering...

Also on the topic of Prot: Spell damage weapon, or classic warrior protection weapon to increase AP for Hammer of the Righteous?

IPlayWoW
11-03-2008, 01:42 PM
Hmm, difficult one. Prot is very good at solo'ing now and multi mob bashing, but, here is the dilemma... So is retri.
So, the answer I give you is an undecided one. I'd say retri purely cos of the fact of less down time due to mana problems as prot still, so either way if you take 3 mobs as ret for example, and 10 as prot. You will kill those 10 mobs faster as ret with less downtime than you would as prot.
Also, for the weapon, go for a warrior weapon and put +43 spell power on it (major healing pre patch). That way you can still have spell damage and maintain a high level of TPS with hammer of the righteous aswell with the extra damage the AP will give you.
Give or take that sounds about right to me, prot or ret for 70-80 leveling is mainly down to personal preference really, but if you prefer less downtime and faster kills, ret is the way to go.

Blexican
11-03-2008, 01:45 PM
At the early levels, craftable wands are definitely overpowered for you, yet very available. Daggers - I just went through an instance a few days ago that had 20 more spellpower on its own than my *new* quest reward staff did, so I paired it up with a shitty off-hand and came out with a better bonus than my staff had. What level are you up to now? There's a good off-hand in SM graveyard, and a good dagger drop in SM library that you should look to put together if you're around level 30.

...but no, I don't ever physically attack with my dagger/staff unless I'm dicking around, and I only wand if I'm being lazy as shat. And that's PVE. So no. Not pvp.

im up to lvl 43. But im also down to 150 gold cause im wasting it like a noob. thankfully i can get more and be a little more efficient with my money. I did get my tailoring to 275 and enchanting to 250 so far.

Whats some fun things to do at my level? I found something to do where i go and try to take over like a farm and a mine with a group and stuff. Was learning how to use my char pretty well there. Is spending my time there useful? Other than learning how to use my char =P

i also heard my trip xp stops at 60! =X

halolover5.
11-03-2008, 02:04 PM
Woah I haven't been on WoW in forever. I actually cancelled my account after playing for 2 and a half years because I was going to try out Warhammer Online, but like all the other recent MMO releases it feels half finished. I enjoyed Warhammer more in CBT (CLOSED BETA TESTING) then I did at release just because the servers never felt empty in beta. Oh well. Thinkin about bringing my account back for Lich King but I dunno if I feel like spending the money on other game because I'm not sure if I'm still gunna like it. How far end game content wise have you guys gotten? My guild was doing SSC when I quit. Currently on Area 52.

IPlayWoW
11-03-2008, 05:36 PM
How long go did you quit may I ask? Cos you say forever as in really long. And SSC was released only about 10 months ago, so if it was before that and you were in SSC you were in one of the best worldwide guilds?
Also, it's TBC (The Burning Crusade), not CBT.
Also, maximum time ago you could have quit is about 5 months, if you were playing for 2 and a half years, seeing as WoW has only been around just over 3 years.

Zander
11-03-2008, 07:06 PM
im up to lvl 43. But im also down to 150 gold cause im wasting it like a noob. thankfully i can get more and be a little more efficient with my money. I did get my tailoring to 275 and enchanting to 250 so far.

Whats some fun things to do at my level? I found something to do where i go and try to take over like a farm and a mine with a group and stuff. Was learning how to use my char pretty well there. Is spending my time there useful? Other than learning how to use my char =P

i also heard my trip xp stops at 60! =X
At 60 you can grant one level per 2 that you've gained to a character on the linked account, or yourself.

Woodland
11-04-2008, 03:28 AM
How long go did you quit may I ask? Cos you say forever as in really long. And SSC was released only about 10 months ago, so if it was before that and you were in SSC you were in one of the best worldwide guilds?
Also, it's TBC (The Burning Crusade), not CBT.
Also, maximum time ago you could have quit is about 5 months, if you were playing for 2 and a half years, seeing as WoW has only been around just over 3 years.
You think someones telling porkies? :)
At 60 you can grant one level per 2 that you've gained to a character on the linked account, or yourself.
Could swear granting free levels ends at 60 along with all the other benefits like triple xp... :huh:

Zander
11-04-2008, 03:35 AM
I was wrong-ish:
Are there any limitations to granting levels to characters played by the veteran player?

Yes. The recruit may not grant a level to a character that is equal to or higher than the current level of the character he or she is playing.

Additionally, the recruit may not grant a level to a character that is level 60 or higher.
http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=20588

Volcom
11-04-2008, 05:43 AM
Also, maximum time ago you could have quit is about 5 months, if you were playing for 2 and a half years, seeing as WoW has only been around just over 3 years.
Its been here for 4 years, allmost to the day. or just under 4 if your in the Eu.

IPlayWoW
11-04-2008, 05:49 AM
My mistake, but even still, he would still have to be in a top world guild to be in SSC at that date.

At woody, yes I do.

halolover5.
11-04-2008, 05:51 AM
How long go did you quit may I ask? Cos you say forever as in really long. And SSC was released only about 10 months ago, so if it was before that and you were in SSC you were in one of the best worldwide guilds?
Also, it's TBC (The Burning Crusade), not CBT.
Also, maximum time ago you could have quit is about 5 months, if you were playing for 2 and a half years, seeing as WoW has only been around just over 3 years.
Hmm, yeah I did exagerate in "forever". It just seems forever to me. So I quit probably 5ish or 6ish months back. But yeah WoW has been out longer then 3 years, pretty close to 4 now actually. And by "CBT" I was referring to Warhammer's Closed Beta. Sorry for the misunderstanding ;)

EDIT: Btw, thanks for the neg!
Jumping to conclusions maybe?
Jesus.

endless
11-04-2008, 11:14 AM
Dont mind IPW, hes what we'd like to call a jackass..

I do beleive wrath will be worth buying and playing for even a little bit, it'll as the least give you a few hours of play time. And at the cost, its still cheaper than going to the movies these days.

~end

AlabamaBoy
11-04-2008, 11:58 AM
Affliction DPS will be so much fun.

Ignition
11-04-2008, 12:30 PM
I've pre-ordered it. I'll just drop buy an EB games on my drive home, flash some ID and pick it up.

Hmm, difficult one. Prot is very good at solo'ing now and multi mob bashing, but, here is the dilemma... So is retri.
So, the answer I give you is an undecided one. I'd say retri purely cos of the fact of less down time due to mana problems as prot still, so either way if you take 3 mobs as ret for example, and 10 as prot. You will kill those 10 mobs faster as ret with less downtime than you would as prot.
Also, for the weapon, go for a warrior weapon and put +43 spell power on it (major healing pre patch). That way you can still have spell damage and maintain a high level of TPS with hammer of the righteous aswell with the extra damage the AP will give you.
Give or take that sounds about right to me, prot or ret for 70-80 leveling is mainly down to personal preference really, but if you prefer less downtime and faster kills, ret is the way to go.

This Shield of the Righteous makes me want to debate you here... I think I'd much rather stack as much AP and Stam over SP because of the new "Pally shield slam" and the Hammer of the Righteous. ALL pally tank abilities are more or less basing off of AP now. I say potency (20 str) over 43 SP

I think I'll level prot. Also, have you not checked out the crazy ass mana regen if you run seal of wisdom AND use judgment of wisdom? + Sanctuary now give +2% mana back for each perry/dodge/block (meaning the more you pull basically the more you re-gen) I'd almost say Prot with 5+ mobs would out Mp5 any ret pally...

Plus if you want to do an instance for a drop you can get groups better (or at least on my low pop server)

PROT IT IS!

Kyir
11-04-2008, 01:00 PM
Art of War: No longer increases critical strike damage on Judgements, Crusader Strike, and Divine Storm, instead increases all damage done by those abilities by a smaller amount.
The Avenger's Shield bounce distance has been reduced to 10 yards (from 15).
The epic ground mount is now available on the trainer at level 61, requiring 150 riding skill, and the non-epic mount learned.
Blessing of Might: Rank 8 points increased slightly to prevent from being overwritten by Battle Shout 8 that has a shorter duration (also applies to Greater Blessing of Might 3.)
Blessing of Sanctuary: It is no longer possible to have both Blessing of Sanctuary and Greater Blessing of Sanctuary active on a target at the same time.
Crusade: No longer applies damage bonus twice to critical strikes.
Divine Plea: This spell's duration is no longer affected by haste.
Divine Purpose: Rank 1 of this ability will now correctly determine its chance of remove stun.
Enlightened Judgments now increases range by 15/30 (was 10/20).
Eye for an Eye: No longer breaks crowd control effects.
Hammer of Justice: The interrupt from this ability will also be redirected when the stun is redirected. In addition, the interrupt will now work on targets immune to stun.
Hammer of the Righteous: Tooltip corrected to indicate it does 4 times weapon dps instead of 3.
Hammer of Wrath: Now can't be used until the target is below 20% health.
Infusion of Light (Holy) now affects Flash of Light too, reducing its cast time down to zero and can be used while moving.
Judgements: The debuffs from Judgement of Light, Judgement of Wisdom, and Judgement of Justice will no longer be applied if the Judgement spell itself misses.
Judgements of the Pure: Haste increased to 3/6/9/12/15%.
Judgements of the Wise: Mana gained reduced from 33% to 15% of base mana.
Judgement of Wisdom: Mana gained reduced to 1% of maximum mana and proc frequency cut by 50%.
Repentance PvP duration reduced to 6 sec.
Righteous Defense cooldown has been lowered to 8 sec (was 15 sec).
Righteous Vengeance: No longer increases critical strike damage on Judgements and Divine Storm, instead applies a DoT effect similar to Deep Wounds.
Seal of the Martyr: Tooltip for Judgement damage was incorrect and has been fixed.
Sheath of Light: Now correctly benefits Judgements of Command, Blood, and The Martyr.
Shield of the Templar now also reduces all damage taken by 1/2/3%.


UNRELENTING JOY!

Ignition
11-04-2008, 01:23 PM
That HAS to be the BIGGEST nerf any class has ever received.

halolover5.
11-04-2008, 01:48 PM
Yeah, Ill try Wrath out. Is there any way I could buy it and just download it online though? I thought with TBC Bliz had a way to do this. I'm too lazy to go out to the mall =\. And it's 40$ at EBGames right?

AlabamaBoy
11-04-2008, 01:49 PM
It's well deserved.

Blizzard broke paladins in the patch previous.

endless
11-04-2008, 02:01 PM
art of war: No longer increases critical strike damage on judgements, crusader strike, and divine storm, instead increases all damage done by those abilities by a smaller amount.
the avenger's shield bounce distance has been reduced to 10 yards (from 15).
the epic ground mount is now available on the trainer at level 61, requiring 150 riding skill, and the non-epic mount learned.
blessing of might: Rank 8 points increased slightly to prevent from being overwritten by battle shout 8 that has a shorter duration (also applies to greater blessing of might 3.)
blessing of sanctuary: It is no longer possible to have both blessing of sanctuary and greater blessing of sanctuary active on a target at the same time.
crusade: No longer applies damage bonus twice to critical strikes.
divine plea: This spell's duration is no longer affected by haste.
divine purpose: Rank 1 of this ability will now correctly determine its chance of remove stun.
enlightened judgments now increases range by 15/30 (was 10/20).
eye for an eye: No longer breaks crowd control effects.
hammer of justice: The interrupt from this ability will also be redirected when the stun is redirected. In addition, the interrupt will now work on targets immune to stun.
hammer of the righteous: Tooltip corrected to indicate it does 4 times weapon dps instead of 3.
hammer of wrath: Now can't be used until the target is below 20% health.
infusion of light (holy) now affects flash of light too, reducing its cast time down to zero and can be used while moving.
judgements: The debuffs from judgement of light, judgement of wisdom, and judgement of justice will no longer be applied if the judgement spell itself misses.
judgements of the pure: Haste increased to 3/6/9/12/15%.
judgements of the wise: Mana gained reduced from 33% to 15% of base mana.
judgement of wisdom: Mana gained reduced to 1% of maximum mana and proc frequency cut by 50%.
repentance pvp duration reduced to 6 sec.
righteous defense cooldown has been lowered to 8 sec (was 15 sec).
righteous vengeance: No longer increases critical strike damage on judgements and divine storm, instead applies a dot effect similar to deep wounds.
seal of the martyr: Tooltip for judgement damage was incorrect and has been fixed.
sheath of light: Now correctly benefits judgements of command, blood, and the martyr.
shield of the templar now also reduces all damage taken by 1/2/3%.


unrelenting joy!

to the ground baby!!!

Kyir
11-04-2008, 02:33 PM
to the ground baby!!!

Through the floor.

endless
11-04-2008, 02:35 PM
Aww man up, its not that bad.

If all else fails, you should roll a DPS class..

:D

Kyir
11-04-2008, 02:38 PM
Aww man up, its not that bad.

If all else fails, you should roll a DPS class..

:D

Who said I was a Pally?

I enjoy their pain.

Also.

TOO MUCH DPS.

ROLL A REAL CLASS.

MAKE A REAL SPEC.

TANK OR HEAL.

endless
11-04-2008, 02:44 PM
TOO MUCH DPS.

ROLL A REAL CLASS.

MAKE A REAL SPEC.

TANK OR HEAL.

/agreed

Zander
11-04-2008, 04:12 PM
I can't download the patch because it's saying that it can't write to the location because it's a system directory(windows is where it is, i'm trying to move it to my user place). But when I try to move the file, it tells me that it's open in another program or some other such nonsense. Even though it's not, and the only windows I have open are browsers and two "computer" page thingies.

IPlayWoW
11-05-2008, 05:05 AM
Hahaha, I see no real damage loss with this patch already. Still doing the same amount of damage I was doing since 3.0.2 release. Blizz fail again.

Ignition
11-05-2008, 10:27 AM
TOO MUCH DPS.

ROLL A REAL CLASS.

MAKE A REAL SPEC.

TANK OR HEAL.
I've actually decided to go Prot simply because when I pick up my xpack next week and ding a few levels I should be pumping out a significant amount of DPS by bashing numerous people simultaneously, while maintaining a VERY high serviabilty. Plus I can get groups easy for instances /1 Tank LFG ____
Hahaha, I see no real damage loss with this patch already. Still doing the same amount of damage I was doing since 3.0.2 release. Blizz fail again.
/agreed
post 3.0.3 DL, and pre-raid-respec to holy I was sill hitting significantly harder then pre 3.0.2 and my overall DPS may have only dropped a hundred or few. We can still burst, as well as heal. the only noticeable change (though very minor) is the slightly slower/lower mana regen. However its still very manageable for grinding. We are simply not overpowered any more, we are still more then viable.

Volcom
11-05-2008, 10:52 AM
That HAS to be the BIGGEST nerf any class has ever received.

But you did get the biggest Buff to a class too. so now, your slightly better than you were before.

Ignition
11-05-2008, 11:00 AM
AKA on par with other classes.

IPlayWoW
11-05-2008, 12:00 PM
Ok, so we can still 1 shot everything in sight, the only thing we don't have now is the mana regen we had. That said, we still have a decent amount of regen and don't go oom in instances/raids, though. So people think we've been nerfed through the floor, so they are happy, when in actuality we haven't, so we're happy. Well done Blizz, you've actually done something right.
The only REAL nerfs that pallys have been given is to holy and prot, they are gona take it horribly, but ret, we're still fine and struggling on in agony to get a bit of respect, which incidentally we will never get. But either way, we haven't been nerfed too majorly or too minorly, awesome.
I'm actually happy with Blizzard, for now.

endless
11-05-2008, 12:04 PM
Ok, so we can still 1 shot everything in sight, the only thing we don't have now is the mana regen we had. That said, we still have a decent amount of regen and don't go oom in instances/raids, though. So people think we've been nerfed through the floor, so they are happy, when in actuality we haven't, so we're happy. Well done Blizz, you've actually done something right.
The only REAL nerfs that pallys have been given is to holy and prot, they are gona take it horribly, but ret, we're still fine and struggling on in agony to get a bit of respect, which incidentally we will never get. But either way, we haven't been nerfed too majorly or too minorly, awesome.
I'm actually happy with Blizzard, for now.

May i say..

DUH

This too the ground stuff is just for fun, blizzard has stated many many many times they want the classes to be even. You no longer do as much DPS as a mage but you do decent DPS. (yay!) Ret will be a fine spec in wrath. There was never a reason to worry.

IPlayWoW
11-05-2008, 12:10 PM
Coming from someone who has no clue about paladins, or ret for that matter? GG.
I've never once done less dps/dmg than a mage. Except for when AoE is called on certain bosses or certain parts of trash etc. Even on MH trash when you have locks and mages spamming AoE on all the waves, I'm still out dps'ing them.
So, please, stop trying to be a smartass.

endless
11-05-2008, 12:25 PM
Coming from someone who has no clue about paladins, or ret for that matter? GG.
I've never once done less dps/dmg than a mage. Except for when AoE is called on certain bosses or certain parts of trash etc. Even on MH trash when you have locks and mages spamming AoE on all the waves, I'm still out dps'ing them.
So, please, stop trying to be a smartass.

It comes down to skill. And who said i didn't have a pally? Granted i haven't played him in end game yet, but hes level 60. Along with my druid, mage, priest, hunter, and lock who are all 60+. Yes i totally have no idea what im talking about.

Similar geared pally vs. mage the mage will win every time.

And you sir, are not the shit. Get your head out of your ass. Kthxbi

(p.s.: What im posting are fact from blizzard themselves. so im more of an informer than a smartass. )

IPlayWoW
11-05-2008, 12:55 PM
I don't care really if I'm the shit or not, I know I aint, but I know I'm in the skilled section of retadins, like it or not.
Like I said, and I'll say again, I always out dps/dmg mages, even mages in gear far superior to mine.

AlabamaBoy
11-06-2008, 02:54 AM
Finished setting up my character HUD.

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8552/wowui1zn5.png
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/2897/wowui2lt6.png
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/2819/wowui3qh4.png

endless
11-06-2008, 11:56 AM
That is a god awful interface.

You don't even have x-perl installed!

Ignition
11-06-2008, 02:02 PM
Ok, so we can still 1 shot everything in sight, the only thing we don't have now is the mana regen we had. That said, we still have a decent amount of regen and don't go oom in instances/raids, though. So people think we've been nerfed through the floor, so they are happy, when in actuality we haven't, so we're happy. Well done Blizz, you've actually done something right.
The only REAL nerfs that pallys have been given is to holy and prot, they are gona take it horribly, but ret, we're still fine and struggling on in agony to get a bit of respect, which incidentally we will never get. But either way, we haven't been nerfed too majorly or too minorly, awesome.
I'm actually happy with Blizzard, for now.
Where did they nerf prot? they just upped Hammer of the Righteous from 3 times main hand DPS to 4 times O_o? if you see a prot nerf please spell it out for me...
That is a god awful interface.

You don't even have x-perl installed!
/agreed, that is so far from the default interface I'm urked that you seven used the term HUD.

endless
11-06-2008, 02:16 PM
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot110608121333im3.jpg

A real mans interface...

AlabamaBoy
11-06-2008, 02:36 PM
Mine's amazing.

Ignition
11-07-2008, 02:14 PM
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot110608121333im3.jpg

A real mans interface...
Thats... not much better

A custom UI is to make you interface prettier as well as more functional. if you have a UI that "gets the job done" like Ryan's you might as well go bang a fat chick.. she'll get the job done as well.

That's my opinion, if you disagree... your more or less gay or retarded.

endless
11-07-2008, 02:27 PM
The point of an interface is to add functionality, not completely change how the game looks/feels (i.e. Prettier ).

Doing it the way you're implying is like taking that fat chick and letting her fuck you with what she likes to call " Assmuncher 3000 " because she had a cute face.

My interface give me a ton of info about everything going on at all times. Which i use to be the best damn bear ever.

If you can do better i'd love to see what your interface looks like...fag.

Zander
11-07-2008, 05:16 PM
Are you using a fucking widescreen tv for a monitor?

endless
11-07-2008, 05:52 PM
Are you using a fucking widescreen tv for a monitor?

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4614

AlabamaBoy
11-08-2008, 10:31 PM
http://thottbot.com/wotlk/warrior/t#ktI.dwHBBS/g1/y7

Kyir
11-08-2008, 10:46 PM
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot110608121333im3.jpg

A real mans interface...

Not even.

http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uiey4.jpg
(http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uiey4.jpg)

On a less douche-baggy note, how's everyone feeling about the pre-expansion class?

I can't say I'm thrilled about the addition on knockbacks or dismantle or AoE 8000 bajillion damage stun or bladestorm or Arcane and/or Frost mages, but at least I haven't been nerfed yet. I hope it all ends up balancing, but I'm dissapointed in Blizz for caving in and adding knockbacks after they always said they wouldn't. Also, expansion pre-ordered on next day delivery, loads of fun.

Volcom
11-09-2008, 07:09 AM
Im waiting a few months till i get it. Figured i finnish my last year of uni first. in the mean time, any spare time i do have, ill be juts be grindind prebc rep.

halolover5.
11-09-2008, 07:42 AM
Not even.

http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uiey4.jpg
(http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uiey4.jpg)

Ahh nice. What is that action bar addon you have at the bottom of your screen? Looks nice.

Kyir
11-09-2008, 01:06 PM
Spartan UI.

It's essentially Bartender 4 with a skin.

Darque
11-09-2008, 06:43 PM
So thinking about a transfer for Draq and myself..where are most of the alliance players located? I prefer a PvP server as thats what I do mostly.

In before boo alliance.

Edit: I refuse to read through 350+ pages to find the answer :P

endless
11-09-2008, 06:47 PM
Well me and lex ( hes a n00b ) Play on Korialstraz, its a great server, but im not a heavy raider. Casual guild.

Blexican
11-10-2008, 12:00 AM
Lvl 50! Man gold can get wasted fast... Now i have to like... preserve gold or something. =O

Woodland
11-10-2008, 06:57 AM
Weird on my realm some tards was spamming trade like...

'OMG GOLD GETS RESET!!!!!1' 'NO WAI!!!!'

Anyone else heard about this?

And Blex, gold only gets wasted fast if you spend it on crap. Or unless you're using proffs.

I'm such a hypocrit also, ok my guild wanted a random dps to go ZA so I went Retadin on my Paladin...;O All I can about Retadin in PVP when I'm fighting allys is GG.

Zander
11-10-2008, 07:00 AM
...or buying gear as you level, lol. I hope you haven't been doing that.
Some paladin on ques'whatever isle was getting double judgements earlier. Every time he judged it did the damage twice.

Darque
11-10-2008, 11:21 AM
I've got nearly 15k gold..and haven't made an attempt at any more profit in the last six months waiting for the xpac.

Blexican
11-10-2008, 04:23 PM
...or buying gear as you level, lol. I hope you haven't been doing that.
Some paladin on ques'whatever isle was getting double judgements earlier. Every time he judged it did the damage twice.

lol i have. Well. lesson learned.

Woodland
11-10-2008, 05:23 PM
People buy gear of AH? <_>

Shit from quest rewards spank AHs random crap.

Seriously bored now of WoW whilst waiting for the expansion...All those epics I've earnt going to waste which is nice to know. Pfff...

All I'm doing atm is either gearing my 5th 70 a bit (Mage), and I specced my Paladin Tankadin earlier on caz I fount TK/Hyjal ep0x in my bank from when I was holy. So I just loaf in HCs helping guildies out. =/

Blexican
11-10-2008, 05:34 PM
If I wanna pvp at the 80 cap. Whats the best spec for a warlock? If someone even knows yet =X

Woodland
11-10-2008, 05:41 PM
Well the specs we've got now you'll have then but people varie to what they want to do.

Some go Demo for the bonus stam for themselves and pets and the Metomorphis thing at the end.

Don't know fully why people spec Afflic except from the shed load of Dots that you can do etc...

Destruc is just like OP shadowbolt/immolate/incenirate and the shadow nova move which stuns or w.e its called.

Your call end of the day.

Zander
11-10-2008, 07:54 PM
If I wanna pvp at the 80 cap. Whats the best spec for a warlock? If someone even knows yet =X
Stop asking this.
Make your own.

This isn't tony hawk.

Blexican
11-10-2008, 07:56 PM
How does that have to do with Tony Hawk?

So builds are just trial and error?

AlabamaBoy
11-10-2008, 08:09 PM
Primarily affliction - http://thottbot.com/wotlk/warlock/t#u1QHTFkOF1/ixVx

Primarily demonology - http://thottbot.com/wotlk/warlock/t#m1Qx3/iVVHwiLNr

Hybrid1 - http://thottbot.com/wotlk/warlock/t#u1QFzE/iVVHEO7i
Hybrid2 - http://thottbot.com/wotlk/warlock/t#u1QFzIQ21/iBVHx2

Ignition
11-11-2008, 11:45 AM
Not even.

http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uiey4.jpg
(http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uiey4.jpg)

On a less douche-baggy note, how's everyone feeling about the pre-expansion class?

I can't say I'm thrilled about the addition on knockbacks or dismantle or AoE 8000 bajillion damage stun or bladestorm or Arcane and/or Frost mages, but at least I haven't been nerfed yet. I hope it all ends up balancing, but I'm dissapointed in Blizz for caving in and adding knockbacks after they always said they wouldn't. Also, expansion pre-ordered on next day delivery, loads of fun.
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAH OMG OMG OMG!~!!!! in your screen shot, the fuck tard selling the epic gem, please tell me he's a self inflated warlock who's got the most sustained DPS in the WORLD!? that kid xfered off the top raiding guild on my server because every one basically disowned him for bing farrrrr to much of a duche/idiot.

Blexican
11-11-2008, 05:56 PM
Primarily affliction - http://thottbot.com/wotlk/warlock/t#u1QHTFkOF1/ixVx

Primarily demonology - http://thottbot.com/wotlk/warlock/t#m1Qx3/iVVHwiLNr

Hybrid1 - http://thottbot.com/wotlk/warlock/t#u1QFzE/iVVHEO7i
Hybrid2 - http://thottbot.com/wotlk/warlock/t#u1QFzIQ21/iBVHx2

thank you. thank you very much.

Warcow
11-11-2008, 06:04 PM
Spartan UI.

It's essentially Bartender 4 with a skin.

I actually really like that UI Kyir, curious where your cast bars are displayed though

Focus Cast etc just above the unit frame? I assume the frame on the right is a focus frame.

You need to keybind, stop being a dirty clicker.

PS: ALMOST WRATH TIME BITCHES.

Blexican
11-11-2008, 06:10 PM
Time to have no life for the next couple days so i can try to get to 60+

Kyir
11-11-2008, 06:21 PM
I actually really like that UI Kyir, curious where your cast bars are displayed though

Focus Cast etc just above the unit frame? I assume the frame on the right is a focus frame.

You need to keybind, stop being a dirty clicker.

PS: ALMOST WRATH TIME BITCHES.

I use Quartz for my cast bar as well as my focus's and my targets, though my spells show up in both of my character frames, I just like the shiny movement.

A lot of stuff appears when I'm actually in combat, so it gets a bit more cluttered.

Also I AM KEYBOUND FOR ALMOST EVERYTHING BUT I DIDN'T BIND BLOODLUST SORRY MY BAD.

I'd show an example of in-combat, but uh, THE SERVERS ARE STILL DOWN.

endless
11-11-2008, 06:26 PM
Yeah quartz is a must have, especially for casters.

AlabamaBoy
11-11-2008, 06:47 PM
Warlock - http://thottbot.com/wotlk/warlock/t#u1QFzIQSL1/ixVx

Shaman - http://thottbot.com/wotlk/shaman/t#GMo1/jFOFMT.9F1

Rogue - http://thottbot.com/wotlk/rogue/t#gni1//tNZcSjuxS

Ignition
11-11-2008, 08:03 PM
Blizzard is sending in game mails apologizing to every one.
millions of people get a statutory holiday and they are offline for the hole damn thing
most of the day their website wasn't even working so you could check the status of your realm.

I BEAT MATHEWS
11-11-2008, 08:21 PM
Wow, down for how many hours so far? And is it still every server?

Lex
11-11-2008, 08:25 PM
Argh the day after I get WoW to start working again it dies! Damn you fate!

Blexican
11-11-2008, 08:33 PM
Wow, down for how many hours so far? And is it still every server?

I believe so. I still can't get on mine.

Zander
11-11-2008, 09:06 PM
Has wow really been down since they took the realms down at 5 a.m. pst?

I BEAT MATHEWS
11-11-2008, 09:17 PM
Has wow really been down since they took the realms down at 5 a.m. pst?

Yes :_(

Actually I don't believe i've posted recently about wow, this is my char on Echo Isles, I specced PVP Survival since the last patch, it is really fun. And with the recent upgrade to Aspect of the Monkey I have 30.00% dodge with just that aspect. Not only that, I have the glyph that makes it so when I dodge, I gain a speed increase everytime I dodge an attack ;-D.


http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Echo+Isles&n=Levy

And my pally on Draenor, i'm trying out a new pvp spec for the 69 bracket, its pretty nice i think =D
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Draenor&n=Arragern

Zander
11-12-2008, 06:03 AM
Man. I was liking my new dreadweave gear. :(

IPlayWoW
11-12-2008, 07:55 AM
Yes :_(

Actually I don't believe i've posted recently about wow, this is my char on Echo Isles, I specced PVP Survival since the last patch, it is really fun. And with the recent upgrade to Aspect of the Monkey I have 30.00% dodge with just that aspect. Not only that, I have the glyph that makes it so when I dodge, I gain a speed increase everytime I dodge an attack ;-D.


http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Echo+Isles&n=Levy

And my pally on Draenor, i'm trying out a new pvp spec for the 69 bracket, its pretty nice i think =D
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Draenor&n=Arragern

Survival with 451 agility? Set sail for fail.
And Holy/Prot hybrid for pvp as pally in dps gear? Rofl. Spec ret if you wanna use dps gear.

Heh, well as for me belf as ret, his gears been upgraded pretty quick, ain't nothing special considering personal progress but meh, here:
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aggramar&n=Stylah
That stuff has been aquired in about a week, from having no ret gear to a full set.
His holy gear is far better ofc, as he was always a holy raider.

Merdoc.
11-12-2008, 08:06 AM
Free MERC STUFF WHAT? Oh you lucky new 70's.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Boulderfist&n=Iolx

Zander
11-12-2008, 08:32 AM
Thurr taking it away! D:

Ignition
11-12-2008, 09:02 AM
Survival with 451 agility? Set sail for fail.
And Holy/Prot hybrid for pvp as pally in dps gear? Rofl. Spec ret if you wanna use dps gear.

Heh, well as for me belf as ret, his gears been upgraded pretty quick, ain't nothing special considering personal progress but meh, here:
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aggramar&n=Stylah
That stuff has been aquired in about a week, from having no ret gear to a full set.
His holy gear is far better ofc, as he was always a holy raider.
your band of eternity, I know you upgrade your rings according to your rep with the faction. But you have to get both veils before you can even get the honored ring right?

Fuck me and never getting in for Keal kills >_< and I doubt there'll be any "new-old" raids (apposed to "old-old" raids AKA "classic") going on post WotLK install until every ones bored with the 80 content and head back to outlands..

I BEAT MATHEWS
11-12-2008, 08:38 PM
Survival with 451 agility? Set sail for fail.
And Holy/Prot hybrid for pvp as pally in dps gear? Rofl. Spec ret if you wanna use dps gear.


I'm not basing my spec on the agility aspect, its for the actual survival part in arenas. My traps do nothing but own, and now with the recent change in disengage (http://www.wowwiki.com/Disengage), I can back away from any rogue or warrior very quick. I know it looks horribly nubby, but it actually plays out rather well.

As for my Paladin, he's just for fun. Sure his gear is crap but the build is very fun. Its shockadin based, but at that i can easily heal myself when i need to. The prot part of my spec gives me reckoning (extremely fun in pvp), imp Hammer of Justice, and toughness.

The specs I make shouldn't work, but they do when you play them right.

Zander
11-13-2008, 07:11 AM
I just handed out assault enchants to about 20-25 fresh blued DKs

Merdoc.
11-13-2008, 07:27 AM
LK :)

Almost 71, and I got a free hat for waiting an hour before the store opened at 11:59 :/

IPlayWoW
11-13-2008, 09:01 AM
your band of eternity, I know you upgrade your rings according to your rep with the faction. But you have to get both veils before you can even get the honored ring right?

Fuck me and never getting in for Keal kills >_< and I doubt there'll be any "new-old" raids (apposed to "old-old" raids AKA "classic") going on post WotLK install until every ones bored with the 80 content and head back to outlands..

You have to have both vials for ANY of the rings :p
Mine is the honored one, yes. Fuck blizz for me not getting the last 3k rep for the revered one :(

Woodland
11-13-2008, 06:02 PM
Meh, there's a Druid on my realm who's 75 already...Pherhaps 76 nearly. Dirty bastard.

Anyway, on my retadin because crusader aura pwns I skimmed through most of the zones in Northrend and most look really epic...

Just got to do the deed and level <_>

Zander
11-13-2008, 09:01 PM
I have to wait 35+ minutes to get into my server, because it's full.
And this is suppose to entice me into buying wotlk? Not being able to play?

AlabamaBoy
11-13-2008, 09:02 PM
New server HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Zander
11-13-2008, 09:09 PM
Free transfers from frostmane? The time my queue says has left is just growing. I guess I'll go play an alt. :|

AlabamaBoy
11-13-2008, 09:10 PM
Sadly no.

Kyir
11-13-2008, 09:10 PM
Free transfers from frostmane?

Frostmane used to be pro.

Now that I'm not there I have no idea?

Where was I going again?

Zander
11-13-2008, 09:12 PM
Where'd you go and why'd you leave?

Kyir
11-13-2008, 09:16 PM
Where'd you go and why'd you leave?

Farstriders, now Arthas.

Farstriders because I started playing left and I knew people there, Arthas because now old Frostmaners are playing here.

Zander
11-13-2008, 09:20 PM
Lol... I've been playing as Jimmycarter on farstriders for the last ten minutes. What a kawinkadink.

Zander
11-13-2008, 09:29 PM
Dan, I'm not staying on frostmane with this. I'm picking a realm on sunday and transferring.

AlabamaBoy
11-13-2008, 10:27 PM
Auchindoun.

Woodland
11-14-2008, 05:15 AM
Realm first for maxed out skinning and almost LW'ing? gg

endless
11-14-2008, 08:44 AM
Im sorry but he only thing i see with the " world first " crap is " i have the least amount of a life on this server".

It doesnt take any skill.

Blexican
11-14-2008, 12:42 PM
Dan, I'm not staying on frostmane with this. I'm picking a realm on sunday and transferring.

come to anub arak. It sucks.

IPlayWoW
11-14-2008, 01:32 PM
Meh, there's a Druid on my realm who's 75 already...Pherhaps 76 nearly. Dirty bastard.

Anyway, on my retadin because crusader aura pwns I skimmed through most of the zones in Northrend and most look really epic...

Just got to do the deed and level <_>

We got level 79s over on Aggramar and a few DKs nearly on 75 already.
There is a frenchy who got 70-80 in 27 hours. The first level 70 DK in the world was on Ravenholdt EU, the realm where my new nelf warrior is :p

AlabamaBoy
11-14-2008, 01:56 PM
Who cares.

I'm very disappointed in Blizzard.

The Coder
11-14-2008, 07:49 PM
I decided I'd play my druid for a bit in AV here. The issue? Death Grips. I got taken 100 -> By a hunter 7 levels lower than I while I was chain Death Grip'd by a bunch of death knights

AlabamaBoy
11-14-2008, 08:30 PM
Death Knights are amazing.

Kyir
11-14-2008, 09:02 PM
Death Knights are amazing.

Lies, I find them very average.

AlabamaBoy
11-14-2008, 11:57 PM
I ganked a crap 70 as level 60 with ease.

Kyir
11-15-2008, 12:02 AM
I ganked a crap 70 as level 60 with ease.

You already said he was crap.

Your later point loses most of it's meaning.

AlabamaBoy
11-15-2008, 12:19 AM
Hehehe.

Oh so true.

Blizzard needs to weed out the bads so I can enjoy playing again.

Elentari
11-15-2008, 12:46 AM
Danny, z. If you leave frostmane you need to tell me where you're going.

Transferring away = no fair.

Zander
11-15-2008, 08:19 AM
Danny, z. If you leave frostmane you need to tell me where you're going.

Transferring away = no fair.
We're not goin' anywheres


I'm glad the expansion came out, so I can go back to Affliction now. Demo is rather dull after you get over the shock and awe of metamorphosis, and destro actually looks a lot more interesting than it used to. (my spec is better than yours, dan)
Yay.

I also just finished getting all my addons dealt with and my new interface set-up. It's much more traditional than what I've seen posted, but it's not optimal to me so it'll eventually change. I really just want like one more bar thrown on top of the normal action bar area that goes as long as the exp bar.

Sebba
11-15-2008, 08:21 AM
WoW is a game I can't find in me to play, I prefer having a gun in my hand and blowing someone away...

IPlayWoW
11-15-2008, 12:09 PM
Yes, and talking like that really makes you sound hardcore.

Anyway, whats up with 61-70 pvp bracket now? It's all retards "durrr red name i kiel?!".

Kyir
11-15-2008, 12:23 PM
Yes, and talking like that really makes you sound hardcore.

Anyway, whats up with 61-70 pvp bracket now? It's all retards "durrr red name i kiel?!".

All the goods are out leveling?

IPlayWoW
11-15-2008, 12:51 PM
Exactly.
While I don't have my wrath yet :dry:

Woodland
11-15-2008, 02:24 PM
Dw, you're not missing much. DKs suck...

Bored of Northrend already and only just hit 71 whilst there's hardcore bastards already lvl 80.

Kyir
11-15-2008, 02:29 PM
Dw, you're not missing much. DKs suck...

Bored of Northrend already and only just hit 71 whilst there's hardcore bastards already lvl 80.

They were just AoE farming in a certain spot that has 30 second respawns that are neutral.

Air Head
11-15-2008, 03:35 PM
i play it

IPlayWoW
11-15-2008, 03:38 PM
Did you guys hear about Darus and Athene?
Perfect game mechanics usage and the GMs fucked up, gg Blizz.
13 hours it woulda taken to hit 80 for them, mental.

Zander
11-15-2008, 06:20 PM
I respecced last night and now as I install wotlk i'm finding out I get a free respec?
At least it was only 5g last night.

Volcom
11-15-2008, 07:27 PM
Did you guys hear about Darus and Athene?
Perfect game mechanics usage and the GMs fucked up, gg Blizz.
13 hours it woulda taken to hit 80 for them, mental.
he said the Gms were watching. i think its a bit harsh or blizz waiting 13/14 hours before they said anything. either way, its unfair but what can you do .

Zander
11-15-2008, 07:50 PM
Mob tagging?:huh:

Volcom
11-15-2008, 08:17 PM
yeah in instances
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=94893
quite interesting what he thinks about it.

Zander
11-15-2008, 08:19 PM
I watched most of that vid, it's on youtube, but i quit out maybe halfwy through with still no actual explanation of what happened? It seems as if they were all in an instance together yet only one person got experience, so I don't see how this would work unless they only killed things for 60 seconds after disbanding and ran out, back in, which they didn't do because he said they did full 12-minute runs. Sooo...?

Volcom
11-15-2008, 08:21 PM
about halfway through he shows how. they enter the instance together.. right before he pulls the tank leaves, once mobs are kill he joins group again to avoid being booted from the instance.... repeat

Spirit_Monger
11-16-2008, 02:32 PM
It's temping to get WotLK and play it at least for the leveling and seeing the content.

But I'm going to try to keep resisting since I doubt I'd raid or anything.

Looks fun though. :)

Zander
11-16-2008, 02:51 PM
It's temping to get WotLK and play it at least for the leveling and seeing the content.

But I'm going to try to keep resisting since I doubt I'd raid or anything.

Looks fun though. :)
Do you play madden at all on that xbl account I see in your signature?
edit: why apparently you do... give me your gamertag, i'll setup my free month of it and play you. (:

+TDBL+
11-16-2008, 02:56 PM
i quit WoW because my grades were going down. had 4 lvl 70s and quitted right before Wotlk. Wotlk is the death of wow. i got to test the beta. its not the best thing ever. i got bored within 20 minutes.

Megabyte
11-16-2008, 03:17 PM
he said the Gms were watching. i think its a bit harsh or blizz waiting 13/14 hours before they said anything. either way, its unfair but what can you do .

It's unfair?

I suppose on some demented level that being punished for abusing the game mechanics later rather than sooner is unfair, but either way you're still being punished for doing something you knew you weren't supposed to do.


and to spirit...read the penny arcade comic about WoTLK, that about sums it up. Bountiful new areas, new npc races, new class...and the walrus guy wants you to go kill some mob and bring him back steaks or some other BS.

Death of WoW? Hardly, but the ultimate admittance that they just don't want to bring anything different to the table. If you've been playing for years, there's probably a lot more interesting things you could play instead.

AlabamaBoy
11-16-2008, 03:31 PM
Please link me to the comic so I don't have to sift through google.