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DFG
12-13-2004, 12:07 AM
I was thinking that, since its lack of LOS makes it a bit overpowered, there should be a small bit of LOS in the Golem Ambusher.

What I am suggesting is that its attack flies over units as normal, but LOS rules come into effect when it reaches the fifth space.

Say, for example, this was the situation:

- - - - - - -
A - K - K K C
- - - - - - -

(A = Ambusher, K = Knight, C = Cleric)


If the Ambusher targeted the cleric, the attack yould bypass the two first knights, but hit the third knight in front of the Cleric.


Thoughts?

Jeffery
12-13-2004, 03:09 AM
Would make the ambusher more useless than it does now.

With the second scout still in the game here, there is little reason for the Bushy. Making it less useful would just compound that.

Office_Shredder
12-13-2004, 06:19 AM
gee, it seems used well enough for being useless...

personally, I would love to see it become useless if it makes it easier for a turtle to beat a rush

Jeffery
12-13-2004, 06:21 AM
Play with it on Legends, where only 1 scout is, and you'll see why I call it useless here.
The second scout negates most of it's advantages here.

WaCk-HeAd
12-14-2004, 10:47 AM
I really have to disagree here.
The GA is useless after doing his job, which is killing the cleric.
The GA is perfect for killing the cleric, and this adjustement would help the game.

In every situation where the GA is in place to kill a cleric it becomes overpowered.

If you want to kill it before it can shoot again, you have to waste at least 3 turns on it, where your opponent used 1.

If you don't kill it, you'll probably lose your cleric, and with that often the game. Even if you save your cleric, which is often quite hard to do, you had to make so many moves you normally wouldn't make, that you have a significant disadvantage.

The only option left is freezing it. Where another "great" aspect of the GA appears. The muddy can kill the cleric, after being hit by the GA, being 3 spots away, and then with that do serious damage and or break focus of stone and or frostie. If you don't have a muddy nearby, a simple scout could also take care of the frostie.

Of course the GA up front doesn't mean instant dead cleric, but it does mean one hell of an advantage.

I personally HATE the GA. Especially when I'm a big fan of the cleric.

Moose
12-15-2004, 11:40 AM
Correct, the ambusher was meant for only 1 scout, just like the wisp, with 2 scouts, the game kind of just gets lame and pointless, making the ambusher useless, but then again it does have advantages with the 2 scouts but the strategy is gone and most likely the person with the first move wins the game.

Moosey

P.S: same goes with wisp :P

FryLock
12-15-2004, 01:14 PM
Frylock: Your right Moose, i'm not as good as I think I am
Moose: Don't tell me that, tell it to yourself


Wow, I don't remember saying that. It looks like Moose has gone to making things up. Perhaps he's still sore that I won our last match-up. Oh wait, right, he "wasn't trying" when we played.
Free tip - I'd never say "Your" when I meant "You're." If you're going to try to fabricate my conversation, at least make it believeable.

Office_Shredder
12-15-2004, 05:54 PM
owned!

The Ambusher is extremely useful here also.I love it... it means I can get a scout shot nearly every turn basically... and sometimes the extra 2 damage is REALLY useful (like shooting a DSM)

PineTree101
12-30-2004, 08:13 AM
But I am one of the many to call the Snork account mine on army server (just to let you know I am a gold) but i agree with shredder, it is perfect for killing the witch. Im one of my 3 main setups, it's a turtle, but it have a furgon for defend and everything else either teleports, or shoots far (Im really good at forest fights) and I think it's annoying when I shoot the witch with my scout, then the cleric heals it to a 24, If the GA hit it (excuse my mth skills) it would go down to 8, the heal to 20, and i just hit it again.

Jeffery
12-30-2004, 08:17 AM
He is saying that any units in the square next to the target would be in the LOS, and take the shot instead.

WaCk-HeAd
12-30-2004, 03:38 PM
One of the greatest things of the GA:

Killing a witch became easier...... Yeah...

...

Pinetree101

DSM Is Not A DMW

Scroll Lock
12-30-2004, 04:03 PM
Woot