Sports Games

[Auriadizo]

What exactly is so good about Sports Games? They're linear, simple-minded, require no strategy, and just downright boring. Give me FIVE EXCELLENT REASONS WHY SPORTS GAMES ARE GOOD.

[Auriadizo]

Hello?

[T3 Terminater]

1. There fun
2. there fun
3. there fun
4. there fun
and 5. there fun

[roamingstorm]

well for the simple fact that there are simple minded people, you know the type, the ones who forget to take the stickers off of their tall tees, or cant figure out how to put ona hat, or even decide what a reasonable amount for shoes is. personally i have yet to find one game other than wwf for n64 that is sports related that i like, that game is just so customizable, its cool, other than that, im strictly rpg, and never ever again double post, or you will be beaten with your own overpriced shoe

[Auriadizo]

No repeating resons, please.

[Jeffery]

1) You're an idiot.
2) Don't make threads with just the purpose of proving point 1.
3) You're an idiot.
4) Threads attacking something like this are stupid.
5) Your an idiot to make a thread just for the purpose of arguing.

[roamingstorm]

well my answer was better than t-3's anyway

edit: jeffrey holds a strong point, by the way jeffrey, do you have a job? or a life outside of tao??? im not trying to be offensive

[Auriadizo]

well my answer was better than t-3's anyway

I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to T3.

Okay Jeff, I get the point. But tell The Cheat that. He's cracking on RPG's.

[Jeffery]

And was bitched at by a lot of people for it. If you want to be the Cheat, then prepare to be flamed a lot.

And RS, yes I have a job, as well as a place I volunteer at. Both have internet conenctions. I usually keep the forums in the background as I do several dozen other things.

[Auriadizo]

And was bitched at by a lot of people for it. If you want to be the Cheat, then prepare to be flamed a lot.

Me and my friends were having an arguement about Sports Games last night. I argue what I said in the first post. They said that Sports Games have a hell of a lot more strategy than RPG games. I mentioned RTS games, they said that Sports Games have more strategy than even those!

Three words. They-are-idiots.

[DFG]

Granted, there is an element of strategy in most sports games, but to say there is more strategy in, say, Fifa 2005 than Warcraft 3 is just stupid.

Tell your friends they're morons.

[Auriadizo]

Quite true. Such action will be taken DFG.

[Jeffery]

Well, football as an example, does have strategical thinking. You have to choose your play style, your plays, what you will do (ie choose a strategy) and then make that play. It is a lot more of a shirt term strategy, but is still there.
If you had brought this topic up as a discussion on video games, or even sports video games, you would have gotten it as a discussion.

Instead you attacked it, which is a bad strategy to take.

[Auriadizo]

Hmm...Jeffery. Well this subject still has a chance to turn into a discussion.

[roamingstorm]

And was bitched at by a lot of people for it. If you want to be the Cheat, then prepare to be flamed a lot.

And RS, yes I have a job, as well as a place I volunteer at. Both have internet conenctions. I usually keep the forums in the background as I do several dozen other things.


ok i wasnt sure, im aware your an adult, and your always on, so naturally i was trying to figure out how, but im lazy so i asked, i hope you didnt take the way i said it offensively

[The Cheat]

1. There fun
2. there fun
3. there fun
4. there fun
and 5. there fun


Need I say more? Way to go T-3!

[Auriadizo]

He gave one reason. Will you read? Wait, you don't like RPGs. That probably means that you can't, won't, or hate reading.

[The Cheat]

RPG's

1. Too long.

2. Too Boring.

3. Requires thinking

4. Too much time leveling up for no reason.

5. Every RPG the same (monsters, characters)

6. Forces you to play for at least an hour to get ANY thing done.

should I go on?

[Auriadizo]

If those are the only points you can come up with...you are simple-minded.

Enough Said.

[The Cheat]

Whatever. Let's agree to disagree. You hate sports games, I like sports games. I hate RPG's, you like RPG's. Lets just bury the hachet and move on.



buries the hachet in Auriadizo's back

[roamingstorm]

but i want in on this, whats different about sports games, whats so exciting, the snow is more real in madden 2005 than 2004, or there is some snappy new catch phrase when someone gets tackled? i see no difference between any sports games, given that there are different sports, so how can you say that you get bored because each rpg is the same, rpg's are like interactive books you unfold your own legend as you go along, thats the whole point behind it, just like different books each rpg has different plots, characters, etc.

[The Cheat]

but i want in on this, whats different about sports games, whats so exciting, the snow is more real in madden 2005 than 2004, or there is some snappy new catch phrase when someone gets tackled? i see no difference between any sports games, given that there are different sports, so how can you say that you get bored because each rpg is the same, rpg's are like interactive books you unfold your own legend as you go along, thats the whole point behind it, just like different books each rpg has different plots, characters, etc.


Interactive books? Wow, you must be a total nerd.

The difference in sports games from year to years is the rosters. Teams fire and aquire different players each year. Also more features are added in the owner mode.

[Terps rock]

sports fan i got you covered

1) Sports are the best thing man ever created.
2) It is just like anygame u don't like it because you are not good at it.
3) It isn't for simple minded people because you can play as an owner or as a General Manager, which is like running a buisness which is what all sports are [(cept college) Go Maryland]
4) You try coming up with the best team possible through a fantasy draft
5) You can play a sports game forever, RPG's get boring once you beat the game, which is becoming way too easy, or so hard strategy guide is needed.
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SPORTS ARE EVERYTHING TO ME SO BACK OFF DWEEB

[Terps rock]

cheat i think i love u

[paulk6]

The only sports game I like is NFL Street. It is fun because it is completely NON-linear, and you can customize your characters. It is mostly small challenges, not long, boring games. All in all, (most) sports games blow.

[roamingstorm]

actually i am an athlete, im a football player, and a swimmer, but i dont see why i need to play football with a controller when i can go outside and do it for real. and in a game what does a roster change? i mean every guy is practically the same, im sure it says their stats are different, but in essence its generally the same

[Kos-Mos]

OK where to get started...

Sports team organizing : done in 2 or 3 minutes if you have a brain.
Easy : i bought 1 of each sport game from ESPN and all are owned.
RPG longetivity and not not replayable: Diablo 2, World of Warcraft, Lineage, extremely replayable. Do you not have a thrill at gaining new power?
Sports: Sure they are fun, but doing the same thing everygame gets old
RPG: Every time you get on, something new to do/train/get rich. Leveling up is worth it when you can pwn someone then laugh in their face.Why not play for only an hour?
Sports:Sure for football you have to choose plays and crap, but i can usually use the same plays in an order over and over.
RPGS: Why not put your mind to the test? *Xenosaga is not for retards*
Sports: Can be mastered
RPGs: There is always someone better than you, and if you have the heart of a gamer, you will work hard to beat him/her.
Sports: after a game or two, I am done with it for a week.

Id say the game structure for me is
RPG>FPS>ACTION/PLATFORMER>SPORTS>PUZZLES *ala tetris*

And terp, i cannot understand all of your posts real well

EDIT *some added goodies*:

RPGs

Pros: Leveling, awesome spells and enchanting landscapes. Always something to do. You can become emotionally involved, i once nearly cried because of some guys death on a game, i cant remember it right now. Usually some cool secret hidden and hellish weapons and armor. You can play the game through the eyes of different species and powers. And some games you can choose whether to grow up being good or bad. *ala Fable* RPGs also have incredible fanbases and make phenominal multiplayer games. *ala diablo and evercrack*

Cons: There are some poorly made RPGs which i must say, i would rather throw a rock at a tree than play it. They can be boring combat with blatant music, terribly voice acting, and cheesy forced dialogue. Also, avoid RPGs if you have no patience. Turn for turn based games are usually done badly, but there are many good ones *ala Final Fantasy and Xenosaga*

Sports

Pros: Being able to smack an opposing player without getting hurt in real life id pretty good. Getting a touchdown/homerun/points is fun. You can set up teams and customize players to make the "ultimate" team. Sports can be averagly fun multiplayer, but it sure is fun to make fun of a friend when you score on an open pass.

Cons: You can do this in real life. Extremely repeatable at times. TD after TD, points after point, homerun after homerun doing it in different ways. Some sports games are made poorly with odd gliches and unfair opponents, or insanely easy bots. Single player is 90% of the time atrocious.

Please feel free to argue so i can prove you wrong *zing*

[roamingstorm]

*applause*

[The Cheat]

sports fan i got you covered

1) Sports are the best thing man ever created.
2) It is just like anygame u don't like it because you are not good at it.
3) It isn't for simple minded people because you can play as an owner or as a General Manager, which is like running a buisness which is what all sports are [(cept college) Go Maryland]
4) You try coming up with the best team possible through a fantasy draft
5) You can play a sports game forever, RPG's get boring once you beat the game, which is becoming way too easy, or so hard strategy guide is needed.
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SPORTS ARE EVERYTHING TO ME SO BACK OFF DWEEB



I fully agree. Also I don't love you sorry. Kos-Mos, you are sad, very sad. You must be a very large nerd. I would spit in your face but i'm too lazy to do it now.

[Kos-Mos]

I fully agree. Also I don't love you sorry. Kos-Mos, you are sad, very sad. You must be a very large nerd. I would spit in your face but i'm too lazy to do it now.

If you wish to believe that, go ahead, but o well. I am just stating what 90% of decent gamers believe and what i do too. And you still havent learned have you? O well, these forums are going to hell.
Next time, try to use a better insult, or don't, its rather sad then funny now.

[The Cheat]

After you beat a RPG its over. Done. Over. Fin. No more point to play. Also for those who keep saying" I just rather go out and play a real sport then play a video game of one" Not all the time can this be done. It is somethimes very hard to get a group of friends together for a afternoon of fun. People sometimes just don't have the time.

[Kos-Mos]

After you beat a RPG its over. Done. Over. Fin. No more point to play. Also for those who keep saying" I just rather go out and play a real sport then play a video game of one" Not all the time can this be done. It is somethimes very hard to get a group of friends together for a afternoon of fun. People sometimes just don't have the time.

You really can't read can you?

[Spit_101]

3. Requires thinking
Good job dissing yourself. :cool:

[Terps rock]

Im confused i thought rpg's are like FF and stuff, Diablo is a strategy game, i think, but anyhoo, i play both sports and "rpg", it is just that i go to an academically challenging school in the form of the Academic Magnet, so i don't want to solve a stupid puzzle to see my guy lvl for the millioth time i want to go *bam* O' SHIT i think i killed him with that hit, the ball popped right out.


But overall i like both because all games are fun, its just sports are everything

AND HERE IT IS THE REASON, YOU CAN RELATE TO IT IN REAL LIFE-

SPORTS-REAL LIFE
RPG- DREAM LIFE

[ko71991]

1) You suck.
2) They are really fun and an excellent way to pass time.
3) You suck.
4) Its beacuase you are a complete idiot that has sumtin wrong and prolly keep losing at it that's why you dislike it...
5) And, uhm, did I mention you suck?

[Serge]

Whoa, whoa. Kos-Mos, you can win the Superbowl in real life? You own enough money to buy an NFL team? Dude, can I be your friend?

Anyways, to each his own, stamp-lickers. Stop making threads about video-games. Hence forth, if anyone want's to make a thread about a video game related topic they must ask my permission first.

[Jeffery]

Serge, can I make a thread talking about talking about video games?

[Hugh Junit]

Hence forth, if anyone want's to make a thread about a video game related topic they must ask my permission first.


Sounds about right.
For the record, I love sports games. I also love sports, for that matter.


I also love Christmas cookies and Snowcap ale.

[truffleshfl]

I also love Christmas cookies and Snowcap ale.

*Hands Hugh some fresh baked chocolate chip cookies* Sorry no ale in this house.

[***Duo***]

There's Ale in this house!

* Slowly hands Hugh some Snowcap Ale... *


-Duo

[Hugh Junit]

* Slowly hands Hugh some Snowcap Ale... *
-Duo

Merry Christmas to me. Thanks for the Snowcap, Duo.
And thanks for the cookies, truff.
I've had a few tonight.

Be safe...but have fun. :)

[Warcow]

I despise sports games, except for Rugby games, and only because they are so much more complex . . .

[Spit_101]

1) You suck.
2) They are really fun and an excellent way to pass time.
3) You suck.
4) Its beacuase you are a complete idiot that has sumtin wrong and prolly keep losing at it that's why you dislike it...
5) And, uhm, did I mention you suck?^ Idiotic version of Jeff's flame.


I don't have any sports games. Because I'd rather play them in real life then a video game. RPG's cannot be literally possible on earth. That's what makes them quite a bit different.

But my favorite style of games are strategy games. That is why I play here. I also have WoW (World of Warcraft) and a bunch of other strategy games for my computer.

[The Cheat]

Whoa, whoa. Kos-Mos, you can win the Superbowl in real life? You own enough money to buy an NFL team? Dude, can I be your friend?

Anyways, to each his own, stamp-lickers. Stop making threads about video-games. Hence forth, if anyone want's to make a thread about a video game related topic they must ask my permission first.


I will ask for no ones permission. You can't control The Cheat!

[ko71991]

^ Idiotic version of Jeff's flame.


I don't have any sports games. Because I'd rather play them in real life then a video game. RPG's cannot be literally possible on earth. That's what makes them quite a bit different.

But my favorite style of games are strategy games. That is why I play here. I also have WoW (World of Warcraft) and a bunch of other strategy games for my computer.
Which one? You have to be a little more specific...

[Spit_101]

Which one? You have to be a little more specific...
:rolleyes:
1) You're an idiot.
2) Don't make threads with just the purpose of proving point 1.
3) You're an idiot.
4) Threads attacking something like this are stupid.
5) Your an idiot to make a thread just for the purpose of arguing.

[The Cheat]

:D

[ko71991]

:rolleyes:
Pft, I didn't even see that.... :cool:

[Tama Drummer]

I got tired of reading this thread after page 2, so sorry if what I post now has allready been covered.

It's kind of insulting to say to a person that they are simple minded just because they like a sports videa game. I heard this from someone else (can't remember the name) on some other thread (can't remember the thread). :)
Anyways, they basicaly said that just because someone enjoys a sports game (I'm not sure what the discussion was about then... I think another type of game though) doesn't mean they have a simple mind. Games are meant to have fun. Some people just have fun playing sports games rather than RPGs. That doesn't make that person simple minded.

I kind of think it's funny, how I see people think that playing RPGs make them feel superior to someone who plays a "mindless" first person shooter, or in this case, a sports game.
"It requires more thinking, stratagies, blah blah blah..."
And that makes your better... how?

This may be a bad comparison, but I'm going to use it anyways since I know what I'm talking about. Drums.

People choose different brands of drums (I choose Tama), as gamers will choose different games (rpgs, sports...). As a drummer, I will still respect people who play other than Tama drums. It's all in personal prefference. I prefer Tama, maybe some other guy prefers Pearl. Does that make that person simple-minded? Why don't you respect someone who enjoys a different game?

And here's something I heard on MTV. It was some video game show er something... it looked gay, but the remote was broken and I was half asleep allready. The TV was just so far away... and the sofa was so comfy... Eh, anyways.
They said something like this: Not everyone can be a football team owner in real life. But in a video game, you can be whoever you want.
So, maybe you'll never be able to coach the [insert favorite sports team here] in real life, but thanks to sports video games, you can get pretty dame close. Well, maybe not... I'm just pretty much saying what I saw on MTV.


But, to tell you the thruth, I don't really like sports games. I don't really video games at all. Sure, I'll get hooked on one for a bit, and play every so often. I don't actually own any sports games, and haven't played one either (at least I don't remember ever doing so...). So all of what I said could be complete BS (probably is). But you can make that decision. I'm going to church now... well, very soon. I'll be damned if someone were to read all this crap.


On a side note,

Merry Christmas!!!

[Serge]

No, Jeffery, you can't make a thread talking about talking about video games. I'm sorry.

I will ask for no ones permission. You can't control The Cheat!
Try me, if you have the guts.


And Tama, I read all that, Merry Christmas, bro.

[Kos-Mos]

Whoa, whoa. Kos-Mos, you can win the Superbowl in real life? You own enough money to buy an NFL team? Dude, can I be your friend?

Anyways, to each his own, stamp-lickers. Stop making threads about video-games. Hence forth, if anyone want's to make a thread about a video game related topic they must ask my permission first.

No, if you read, it means in videogame i can.

[The Cheat]

I agree with Tama Drummer

[Jeffery]

No, Jeffery, you can't make a thread talking about talking about video games. I'm sorry.


I herby reapply for permission, pointing out the extenuating circumstances that I am a thread whore as well as a post whore.

[Auriadizo]

After you beat a RPG its over. Done. Over. Fin. No more point to play. Also for those who keep saying" I just rather go out and play a real sport then play a video game of one" Not all the time can this be done. It is somethimes very hard to get a group of friends together for a afternoon of fun. People sometimes just don't have the time.

Not necessarily. There are RPG games that have the infamous + choice. You beat the game. New Game has a + beside it, you choose it, and you start off the game with all the same weapons, levels, and power. Enemies get stronger also, however.

For example, Chrono Cross has this feature, minus the enemies get stronger. The point in this is that you get the Time Egg at the start of the game. If you beat the game at different points in the game, you get different endings. Then there's the issue that you can get certain characters by doing different things. If you do something specific, you will get the Dragoon named Glenn; but at the same time you knocked off your only chance to get the fisher-guy.

I've also heard of this PS game called Vagrant Story. Anybody know anything about this one?

[~Dark-Rain~]

What exactly is so good about Sports Games? They're linear, simple-minded, require no strategy, and just downright boring. Give me FIVE EXCELLENT REASONS WHY SPORTS GAMES ARE GOOD.
$100.00 Says your to fat to play any! lol :)

[Auriadizo]

That's my $100.00 then. I weigh 113 pounds. I don't play any Sports, but I'm training in Jeet Kune Do, I train with my brother in the use of Zamba-toh, and when I'm done with Jeet Kune Do, I get to learn this style that uses the arms to block, and counters with extremely powerful kicks.

Ask Swartz, he's my brother.

[meat.eater]

*woosh* -the sound of it zipping right over my head.

1. They do involve skill in playing of the game, calling plays, etc
2. Doing dynasty mode is really fun, helping to change the entire team
3. recruiting for college games, much skill
4. creating playbooks and customizing team colors, cool addition
5. they are just fun.

[The Cheat]

*woosh* -the sound of it zipping right over my head.

1. They do involve skill in playing of the game, calling plays, etc
2. Doing dynasty mode is really fun, helping to change the entire team
3. recruiting for college games, much skill
4. creating playbooks and customizing team colors, cool addition
5. they are just fun.


Damn straight Meat.Eater. Finally someone is makeing some sense on this thread!

[Amaroth]

Click (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=opinion)

[The Cheat]

Ya Amaroth, your post was cool. :rolleyes: