Similar TAO Game in process

[Jonspen]

Yes that's right. I got together my act, and I've planned a game in the aspects of TAO..Nothing is copied though.

Basically, I need a few helpers.

People who :

Have a good knowledge of Flash
Good graphics
Business Handling

I can hire the servers from the place TAO hire's theirs, and I can host the site and buy the domain name when it is ready.

So this is basically a job application ad, try outs here.

To try out, all you have to do is post one of the things, to do with the job your trying out for :

Flash - Build a small movie
Graphics - Desigh a quick picture of a futuisitic soldier (TAO unit sized)
Business handling - Prove to me you know what your talking about (Examples of hosting, domain buy's, server hires)
Coding - Abit of coding to help along with the game. Im not sure how you can prove this, just post some example code.

Currently under hire :

Jonspen- Admin
APZ - Flash
Jeff - Business
h()()t - Web Design and Graphic Design

[Scroll Lock]

Application:

Eric - Knows Everything.




No no, just kidding, never worked with flash, but if you guys need help or don't have enough people, drop me a PM and if i'm around i'll help out.

[DFG]

If you need music, I could whip up some techno.

Assuming this is a futuristic game we're talking about. (You said futuristic soldier for graphics, so I made that assumption.)

[Jonspen]

If you know much about coding, that would help.

The main idea will be based around TAO.

It will be turnbased, and have lobby's and crap.

The game style will be different though, and it'll take a hell long time to make. Anyway, We need ALL the help we can get to make this successful. Jeff has already got my set for a place to get the website, domain name and everything from when we get solid work done.

So in the mean time, i'll start designing the webpage, and when I get a few more people to help, we can start making this game.

EDIT : Yes, DFG. It will be a futuristic game.

[Scroll Lock]

I think my best skill is website design, php + PS + html. So my aim is WhySaveYourself. Drop me a line and lets see what you got going so far.

[Jonspen]

Ok...

I've done a few *Dolls of the units I want, they just need alot added ect.

We got a plan for the website host and domain name.

When I get a few coders/Flash Mx'ers we can start making the game....

*Dolls = A shape made up of circles and curved lines which will be decorated.

[Kyo]

My friend's trying to do something similar. Still working on it though, don't know when he'll be finished.
http://www.frenchathome.org/tao/

[Jonspen]

All he has done is made a new website with a TAO link on it

Im making a completley new game.

EDIT : Ok, I got everything planned out. Those who I hire, will get all the info I need.

I really need coders and Animators.

[actgfin1234]

I can help with Flash also. If APZ is busy or anything. I'll do whatever I can to help.

[Jonspen]

Okey Dokey!

I'll pm you with what I need when I need it. ;)

The site is under construction!

We would kindly take to donations to help lto pay for the new site...

Total of $9 for a whole year to maintain my site...

[Kyo]

All he has done is made a new website with a TAO link on it

Im making a completley new game.

EDIT : Ok, I got everything planned out. Those who I hire, will get all the info I need.

I really need coders and Animators.

It's not a TAO link. It's the same game, but... Another server.

[Warcow]

Well, I know nothing about anything, so I can't help ya Jon, but good luck man.

[Office_Shredder]

All I know is java programming (I assume you don't need any of that?)

[mushroom_girl]

I can design the characters, since I know nothing about graphics or anything else. If you want I can scan some of my art so you can see if I'm good enough to help.

[Jonspen]

Probably not. But im not sure really, I dont know any code.

[meat.eater]

lol join the club of game makers. currently many of us, recreating TAO. just in time folks! tao is kinda sucking now. well we got T:G, this one and mine (hopefully), T:G is the only one thats made it pretty far. we'll see.

id help but im don my own.
i do know about 20 flash programmers, however, and may be able to point one in your direction.

[Jonspen]

If you could that would be great!

The .com website might be up this weekend, I dunno, christmas is hecktic.

I hope you will all join the forums when it is up, and we'll see if we can get some good programmers in.

[meat.eater]

indeed i will. maybe we can help each other with our games. if your up for it. mines a we bit behind yours, however.

[Jonspen]

I just started, so you have to be ahead.

Well, in what way can you help? O_O

[xerent]

Can you provide more information about this game?

[Office_Shredder]

jonspen's trying to steal your customers that you're stealing from bills xerent.

Talk about ironic

[xerent]

I'm not trying to steal anyone away from anything.

I'm just trying to make something cool.

[Jonspen]

I have huge info!

When h()()t loads my txt file i'll pm it to you.

[xerent]

H()()T... pm's... text....

*confused*

I'll just wait on it I suppose.

[meat.eater]

u can read about mine in a thread called : "Age of time: what do u think?"

[xerent]

You don't want to know what I think.

Just a friendly precaution. ^_^

[meat.eater]

well ill show it anyways. jeezuz that took a long time to find in the archive.

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-13084.html

[necro]

I can help you a little with sound, but I would sudgest ,flashkit.com. They can help you with getting help understanding flash,so that Jon can do more than just pay for it, and they have some half-decent free sound downloads under 'Free soung FX', and you can also put them into a loop for backround music during gameplay.

My spelling sux =P (hurra for the other 8th graders!!!)

P.S. I put my guitar rift on it, as far as I know, it's the only one for electric guitar on there, guess my flashkit name. =P (I used flashkit.com to help make my flash anime. I'm trying to put it on my website right now.) If ya need any help with flash or sound, PM me for help or, once again, I recommend flashkit.com, Seed used it for Tactics Core.

[Hugh Junit]

Good luck, Jon. I have the computer skills of a semi-retarded, half drunken ape......but you have my support.
So does any other member ( xerent, meat ) who is working on developing a game, for that matter.
I've been a gamer my whole life but I can't even imagine trying to make one.

[Jeffery]

The main difference between T:G and the other dozens of games that have been talked about is the fact that Xerent has some basic programming knowledge, which allowed him to start working on the game, then announce it

[meat.eater]

i know pretty much jack-diddly. but i have connections. woot! go knowing smart people!
oh, i can make a geocities site, =). but this site wont be geocities, trust me.

[actgfin1234]

You're pretty ambitious for knowing "jack-diddly". Speaking of which, I've yet to meet him, but I'm sure he's quite mysterious as not a lot of people know him.


*rimshot*

[Jonspen]

Hmmmm

Hopefully xerent will helpl me out if I send him details.

[Jeffery]

You leave Xe alone!
We're whipping him hard enough as it is.

[Jonspen]

You what now?

Come on someone has to have abit of knowledge of coding.

[necro]

The main difference between T:G and the other dozens of games that have been talked about is the fact that Xerent has some basic programming knowledge, which allowed him to start working on the game, then announce it

This is a very smart peice of advice to Jon

1. I doubt you have the money for the project
2. How are you going to pay the people who work on it, (these services are rare and usualy ain't for free)
3. You need extra money for the other programs you need to make it, (Swift 3D Edit, Flash FX, its what Seed and I used, Sound Gravix,Control Foarm Programs, money for a patent, ect.)
4. A computer with all these programs on it as well as the data for the game, devoted to the expansion, matnience, hosting, ect., a website won't hold it all saftly.

You really are ill prepared.....Jon, it ain't gonna work, you would have had to think about this before hand. As for my Flash Anime, its just one big movie, so I don't need to know how to program A.I.; I just needed Flash FX and Swift 3D Edit, and I'm waiting to save up my money to get the patent(I think I keep spelling that wrong, oh well.). Pritty smart for an 8th grader, huh? :p

[Jonspen]

You have no idea do you?

I have FRIENDS, who are going to do this, without charge (Or atleast, till it gets up and running)

The website only costs $9 a year, I dont see that expenisve, do you?

It's just a freakin' festive spirit, you just like putting people down this time of year dont you?

Look, I think this might work, it'll take along time to make, but I only made this thread to ask a few people to help, and have abit of fun in this. So, if you have a problem, get the hell out of my thread.

[manaker]

I was just browsing the forum and couldn't believe my eyes when somebody need help with a game and need coding so here i am mr coding guy so just drop me a PM when u get time and away we go :)

[necro]

It's just a freakin' festive spirit, you just like putting people down this time of year dont you?

Yes I do, its fun, you should try it. If you need help with sound, I can help, along with DFG....

/\/\erry Christmahonikkwanza!

[Jeffery]

Necro, stop dropping Seeds name like you and him are buddies. Seriously. Do you even know his name?
Your points are petty and annoying. Most of the programs you can get for free, and it does not take that new of a computer to run them. The websites are not that expensive to start with, and won't be until an actual game is at least begun.

And there is no patent needed for a computer program.

[Jonspen]

Thanks you Jeff.

I think DFG will be able to handle Sound ect, we probably only need 1 for them.

[manaker]

do u need my help with coding or not?

[meat.eater]

You're pretty ambitious for knowing "jack-diddly". Speaking of which, I've yet to meet him, but I'm sure he's quite mysterious as not a lot of people know him.


*rimshot*

ive read that like 40 times, and i just got it. (i like the rimshot too.)

[Jonspen]

do u need my help with coding or not?

Helll yes!

Your the kind of people we need!

So what's your knowledge like?

[T3km4n]

Y its just one big movie, get the patent
Retard.
Pritty smart for an 8th grader, huh? :p
Retard.

[T3 Terminater]

If you need someone to moderator/administrate your forums. I'll work in your forums. I am experienced in forum administrating.

[actgfin1234]

First of all, take a look at T-3's forums. If you want to see well administrated forums...
http://s7.invisionfree.com/tao_the_elite
Warcow and I are co adminning it. Well, I do all the hard work, set up the forums, changed the skin, Banned who I needed to, etc. He just looks pretty as an admin.

Anyway, I can do coding also, are you talking about ActionScripting? I can do that. I can also do html, for your website. Let me know if you need my services.

PM me or AIM me, DrErving6

[Wayfaerer]

sounds like Jonspen's making another run at being powerful/popular in something, isn't that Genesis game gonna be released soon anyways?

Not that I'm just making a random flame, basically Jonspen is asking people to make a game for him which he can admin, sounds great. Just that I see a new attention whoring thread made by him everyday

[Catsluck]

Jonspen, aren't you only thirteen? You also do realize how expensive 'the same' server that TAO uses is, right?

[moreno_justin]

sounds like Jonspen's making another run at being powerful/popular in something, isn't that Genesis game gonna be released soon anyways?

Not that I'm just making a random flame, basically Jonspen is asking people to make a game for him which he can admin, sounds great. Just that I see a new attention whoring thread made by him everyday
what's that?

[Wayfaerer]

it's me stating the obvious

[Catsluck]

I doubt the game is ever going to become anything anyways. I agree with you except I think Jonspen is just full of shit. He's to immature to run a game, not to mention if it ever did get up he would abuse his powers beyound belief. I would much rather see something with Jeffery or Office Shredder running it.

[SlipknotiCX]

I doubt the game is ever going to become anything anyways. I agree with you except I think Jonspen is just full of shit. He's to immature to run a game, not to mention if it ever did get up he would abuse his powers beyound belief. I would much rather see something with Jeffery or Office Shredder running it.

What's wrong with trying? Why are you trying to bring people down for making an effort to do something?

Good luck Jon ^_^.

[Catsluck]

I just want to point out to people so that they don't start putting alot of effort into something and then Jon not pulling through with hosting the site.

[Wayfaerer]

good luck on what? he's not doing anything

[actgfin1234]

HIJACK!

You guys like my banner? =)

[truffleshfl]

These servers are about $4,000. If I read the site right.

[Jonspen]

$4, 000?
Your having a laugh.

I leave for about a day and you all flame me?

The actual site only costs $9....

I have friends with good knowledge, who are happily doing it for free.

It makes me mad how you just come in my damn thread, and flame me.

This f*cking thread was made as an advertisments...I dont f*cking care if it gets locked now, I dont care about the thread anymore...Heck, I dont want to get all your hopes up for anything.

Just. please, dont come in my thread talking crap.

[truffleshfl]

The actual site only costs $9....


Yes the webiste may cost $9 but not the game server itself.

[Jonspen]

Yes Im aware of that.

I might have to find out how much it may cost, pointless trying if it is huge amounts.

[Kyir]

i can do a bit of HTML and graphic design but othewr then that im worthless
and act does own administrating forems (and Warcow)

[manaker]

I know a bit of javascript,html and PHP so if u need my help just pm me :)

[Jonspen]

Everyone, PLEASE!

Those who are willing to give help [url=http://www.tacticsfan.com/forums]post in General Here your application (WHat you can do to help)

[MikeIsGod]

http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashcom/productinfo/pricing/

250kbit/sec or 5 user cap - free
1 mbit/sec or 50 users cap - $499
10 mbit/sec or 2,500 user cap - $4,500
No cap at all (license is only for 90 days) - $7,500

That's per server as well.

Add to that the montly cost of co-locating/leasing each of your servers.



Now there is also the option of just leasing a license month to month through another company and having the server included (trust me its a poor solution for what you really want to do).

Pulled from: http://www.uvault.com/services/shared.html

256kbit/10 connections - $10/month
1mbit/50 connections - $50/month
2mbit/100 connections - $100/month
5mbit/250 connections - $250/month

Basically you are going at $1/user

Each TAO server has 14 spaces per floor, 2 users per space, 9 floors.

14 x 2 x 9 = 252 possible users playing at any given time.

Now assuming you could actually keep yourself below the 5mbit limit, you could get away with leasing a machine for $250/month. (that is just for one server).

Don't forget that this is not including what it is going to cost you to run the actual webiste. Look at the amount of users on the forum alone. VBulliten on a site with a lot of traffic would KILL a shared enviroment. You are going to need a dedicated server to host the website itself. Now start adding in many different little things like $160 for a vbuillten license (you want to just use phpBB you say? The current release still has holes in it, thats why it's free, don't even bother). You are also going to need to hire a server admin. Anybody who understands flashcom inside and out is not going to come cheap by any means. There are a TON of other factors in this.

Ways to make then semi-close to almost possible in a small little way?

1. Drop flash, why would you want to use flash anyways? There are many other great web platforms out there. On the top of that list is good old Java.

2. If you change this from having to be run from a browser to a downloadble appliation the whole thing gets even cheaper and much much easier. You could write this game in RealBasic if you wanted to. Run the server on a leased windows dedicated server and you would be all set (and it'd be 100x easier to admin than any of the other web-based options).

3. Look for support from places OTHER than Tactics Arena. No offense to the members of the forum, but there are many other forums that are going to have a lot of people MUCH more expierienced than the majority of the people you are going to find in these forums.

4. Learn some skills yourself, its a lot cheaper than having to hire other people to do it all for you.

5. Don't base your game on a bunch of games already out there because you are just not going to get the player base that you can. There are only X amount of people who will enjoy a TAO style game, some are going to stay here, some at legends, some over to Genesis (if they ever get a beta off the ground), some to your game, a very few to multiples, etc... You have to share, and sharing does not make you any money. Instead of ripping off of a game already created, make up something truly unique.

Can go on and on with more stuff, but I won't. Want to talk more business:

PM me
E-mail me: Mike@BudgetReseller.com
MSN: Mike@BudgetReseller.com
AIM: XschwinnX
ICQ: too annoying
Yahoo: read above

[T3 Terminater]

So Jonspen, can I work in the forums?

[Jonspen]

No.

And Mike, I added you to msn.

You have helped me a great deal.

I meen, when I very first start out (testing stages)I can use a free server.

I'll probably make it a download game.

We'll probably make it in Java.

I'll start studying Javascript.

[Duffman]

Jonspen. I think you are biting off more than you can chew here. Createing a marketable game with no coding/business skills is way too ambitious. I mean sure you could learn how to code in Java (Java and Javascript are different things) but it would take a good while before you reached a level of game programmer. And hiring someone that can make a profitable fun game on IOU's and 'favour for a friend' is farfetched to say the least. If this is something you are passionate about then good. Start learning how to code. Get the knowledge to be able to pull this off and in a few years or so, give it another go.

[manaker]

btw ure website dont work

[Jeffery]

What website? He doesn;t have one yet.

[ArcPaladinZero]

Give it time, learn more before you get to work, build some capital. Then make a game. :)

[MikeIsGod]

No.

And Mike, I added you to msn.

You have helped me a great deal.

I meen, when I very first start out (testing stages)I can use a free server.

I'll probably make it a download game.

We'll probably make it in Java.

I'll start studying Javascript.

If you're going to be making it a game that you download (like Nitto1320 if anybody here plays that) then there is really no reason to use java. The rendering engine you find in Java is not that great at all compared to what you can get out of many other languages. The only reason to use Java would be if you made it a web based application.

[Jonspen]

Flash for downloaded games?

[MikeIsGod]

If you're going to go with flash then you might as well just keep it web-based to make it easier. The problem with flash is the huge pricetag to run a flashcom server. There are tons of other languages:

RealBasic (the one im most familiar with and is cross-platform)
VisualBasic (.net now but this could be done in 6 as well)
C
C++
C#
etc...
The only downside to using a language like that is writing up the protocol for client-server communication, but its not that much of a protocol to write in a game like this.

[Duffman]

I wouldn't advise learning C as a first language. Go with a Basic one. They are pretty new user friendly.

[MikeIsGod]

I wouldn't advise learning C as a first language. Go with a Basic one. They are pretty new user friendly.

RealBasic of Visual Basic (now vb.net) would be among the two best languages to start off with, but if you're going to try and learn as you go and program a game, it'd take quite some time before you even had a beta released.

[Duffman]

I made a sick Pong game on VB :). If you want to pay for the server we could make a revolutionary MMOPONG category. :D.

Anyway Jonspen is like 13-14... Seed was 23 when he released TAO... 10 years should be long enough to get the beta out.

[MikeIsGod]

I made a sick Pong game on VB :). If you want to pay for the server we could make a revolutionary MMOPONG category. :D.

Anyway Jonspen is like 13-14... Seed was 23 when he released TAO... 10 years should be long enough to get the beta out.

I have a spare dev server, write the MMOPONG and I will host it for you.

[Duffman]

Wheee!!! It's on. Just let me... Umm... Figure out the code for putting it on a server. We never learnt that in Software Design and development.

[Jonspen]

Haha.

IF this game is any good, we could develop it instead. o.O

[Duffman]

Oh it's good :)

>.>
<.<

[Jonspen]

Well.....

We might be able to come to some arrangement.

>_>
<_<

[DUNG]

Yes that's right. I got together my act, and I've planned a game in the aspects of TAO..Nothing is copied though.

Basically, I need a few helpers.

People who :

Have a good knowledge of Flash
Good graphics
Business Handling

I can hire the servers from the place TAO hire's theirs, and I can host the site and buy the domain name when it is ready.

So this is basically a job application ad, try outs here.

To try out, all you have to do is post one of the things, to do with the job your trying out for :

Flash - Build a small movie
Graphics - Desigh a quick picture of a futuisitic soldier (TAO unit sized)
Business handling - Prove to me you know what your talking about (Examples of hosting, domain buy's, server hires)
Coding - Abit of coding to help along with the game. Im not sure how you can prove this, just post some example code.

Currently under hire :

Jonspen- Admin
APZ - Flash
Jeff - Business
h()()t - Web Design and Graphic Design

Buisnes would be easy I SUE YOU, HIM, AND HER!!!!

I would love to know though to program though but I am to far away from DIGIPEN unfortunatley....

[ko71991]

I'll do anything you want me to to help :D

[Jeffery]

Buisnes would be easy I SUE YOU, HIM, AND HER!!!!

I would love to know though to program though but I am to far away from DIGIPEN unfortunatley....
What the hell is Digipen?

[DUNG]

What the hell is Digipen?



Check it out on google lazy butt
its 4 middle schoolers (programming scool some what)

[Jeffery]

I think you need english classes first. You can take those online.

[DUNG]

I think you need english classes first. You can take those online.

Im lazy fat and obnoxious WHO AM I THE CHEAT!!!

yeah but then id have to pay in engish not good

[DFG]

Well, this is what I'm working on for the in-game music.

Click Here (http://www.rocketsoft.gm-school.uni.cc/uploads/notTAO.mp3)

I was thinking that since this was a strategy game I'd make it slower and darker, as opposed to fast and energetic, which would be more suited to an action game of some sort.

I'll change it if it's not what your looking for.

[gryph89]

hey jonspen good luck with that,i actually look forward to it.If you need any ideas for units,or whatever you're going to call them I'm You're man,
me and my friends made a rather strange card game,and we still have most the drawings,if you don't want them I won't care.but I have good ideas in there such as dwarves,goblins,dragons,elves,amphibions all weird and nasty kind of things.I'll just give them to you,but I need to get my scanners back
up and running though.but anyway you could have those drawings if you want them just pm me or e-mail me im on GL most the day (when im in school).and ill show up on banff every now and then.

[MikeIsGod]

Jospen, you contacted me earlier but i forgot to put you on my contact list. Give me a msg on MSN again when you give a chance, if you are serious about this, we need to get a team together and a website up. I can provide all the backend servers and help out on the programming.

[Jonspen]

Done Mike.

[Duffman]

My old copy of VB doesn't work on my computer and unless i have VB i can't even open my pong game.

[h()()t]

Well here is a rundown of the site. Note I have not started "coding" the site but These are just ideas.

The site will be a futeristic look that will go along with the game. It will be coded in css/html and will have a ice blue template. It will have a side menu and a center text area for infomation. It will have a banner at the top of the website that will become the games main advertisment banner. I would tell more but only jospen and people working on the site may know all of the infomation.

While we are talking about severs I own a server that can support up to 50 people at one time. It is no longer active but it will cost aobut 30$ to reactivate the server and it will cost about 30% a month. my grandpa boght one but didn't use it and gave it to me :).

[Duffman]

Jons... You might like some light reading :)

http://www.gamasutra.com

[Kyir]

my freind draws really well, its probly not the kind of graphics you are looking for but
here it is (http://img16.exs.cx/img16/3589/l5olegatobannercoo.jpg)

[h()()t]

That is a great Drawing...Give your freand my props. But I think we need somone that can do imaging on a computer. I am going to be doing most of it but I am no super artist So it is going to take alot of work.

[MikeIsGod]

I can help with imaging if needed. My main area is photo-enchancements as well as 3d work. I am very good with 3DSMax. If everybody is serious about this we need to get a dev team together and a site up asap. I can provide hosting at no charge if needed.

[h()()t]

Well Mike that would be nice...give my a pm and we will talk.

[DFG]

What?

No comments on the music?

[truffleshfl]

Should have posted this earlier.
I'm not into techno that much but I thought it was pretty good.

Good job.

[Hugh Junit]

What?

No comments on the music?


I really like it, DFG.
Very cool.

[DFG]

Great!

So are we just going to loop that sample there or should I try and develop it a bit more?

[Jonspen]

Ok Mike. I think that hosting would be great. I'll buy a .com domain name, and if you can host that domain name? Oh and give me access to it, and I wanna do the updates (Text on front page) and crap.

Really, Im trying to dilute my ideas down, to make it easier to make. I'll start trying to learn some code. Then, we need a few more people to start coding it.

As for servers, well if we reicieve some donations, and we put abit together, we'll be able to buy a server when the game is up. For a beta Mike posted a linnk (I think it was Mike) Where Macromedia do a server for free supporting 5 people.

Ok, so all we need really is more coders, and we're set.

[MikeIsGod]

If you're truly serious about this get a dev team together right now and planning before you touch a single bit of code, website, domain name, etc...

When I say planning I don't mean a quick AIM chat. Document everything. This really should work out to at least 25+ pages of documentation about how everything is gong to be run, funded, setup, etc.. Include a timeline. This plan will be flexable of course, but if you start without one you will surely fail.

You are going to have to decide on a platform for developing this game though.

The three main choices are:
Flash
Java
Stand-Alone (C, C++, C#, VB, RB, etc....)

Once you have that you are going to need at least 1 programmer, two would be better but it might be difficult to organize.

You are going to need a webmaster, you can do updates if needed, but unless you are talented in webdesign and for a site like the PHP/MySQL get a webdesigner. (again at least one)

You are going to have to have a graphic designer for artwork, backgrounds, etc... In addition I would suggest having a seperate graphic designer to do all the sprite animations.

Then on top of all of that you are going to need a handful (2-5) of floaters with some experience in a few fields to fill in gaps where needed.

After you find all these people you are going to have to get them all together to start planning. Expect it to take a week just to get somewhere on the planning. Once all that planning is done then you need to make your initial 'plan of action'. Take that plan of action and give it to all the people on your dev team and ask for feedback. Take all their feedback and hold another meeting. Revise the plan. (keep on looping until you have a good full out plan that everybody can agree on).

After you have done all that then you can go ahead and do things like registering a .com (i can host sites for you no problem, i can even host the beta server although i don't have a spare machine that could hold a full production server of several hundred users at a time). I would seriously expect 6 months to a year of hard work by your entire team and yourself before this project has a true beta released.

[MikeIsGod]

add sound guy to that too

[Jonspen]

Ok.

So we got some of the stuff down on the forums. (http://www.tacticsfan.com/forum) If your going to register you need to request access.

I think we have a web designer. I think we have graphics, sound. We need programmers, and I need advice on the easiest thing to program it in.

I'll start a time line, and work on the initial plan.

[h()()t]

i will let you know i know nothing about php and mysqal...a little php. I can make the website...then somone can go spice it up a bit. I will do my best. But I have about 400$ in image programs. Problem is that is only 3 programs.

[MikeIsGod]

i will let you know i know nothing about php and mysqal...a little php. I can make the website...then somone can go spice it up a bit. I will do my best. But I have about 400$ in image programs. Problem is that is only 3 programs.

What I listed was just a general idea. Web team can be composed of more than one person, as well as programming, sound, etc... I am good at creating images if people tell me exactly what they want. The problem is that I can not think up any pretty ideas. I can code on php/mysql pretty darned good (no expert but enough to do what would be needed for this site), but I can't make a pretty website. It would be definatley possible to have a 3 person webteam.

1. graphic/layout artist
2. webmaster (updates, news, keep an eye on things)
3. web-programmer

There is an infinite amount of possibilities for positions. There are just three main points to keep in mind:

1) Too many people working on a project makes it incredibly hard to manage. This is why pixar has design teams of under 200 usually to make their movies. The dev team should be composed as small as possible to get the job done.

2) Experience is great. Really wanting to help is great. Neither works without the other when you want to get something out fast. This is not to say somebody who is experienced but does not have much time to lend is a waste. This also does not mean somebody with no experience but a huge drive to help is a waste. This is just saying that the Core people working on the project need to have a real want to help as well as the knowledge to do so.

3) PLANNING. I can not stress this enough. I have worked on many projects before (internet and real life) and planning is EVERYTHING. If you do not have a true plan set out, nothing will work. I can relate this best to the webhosting industry as this is what I used to. If you search on the webhosting forums all over the internet, you will see that there are TONS of new hosts starting up each and every day. Many many many of these hosts are gone in under 3 months, why is that? Simply put that had NO plan. Even with very little capital it is possible to make a webhosting business grow and become profitable as shown by many examples, but many hosts just jump in feet first. They go and buy a domain name, lease a server, and then start to try and sell hosting. They forgot to plan out their growth rate, support solutions, niche market, etc...

[Jonspen]

1. graphic/layout artist
2. webmaster (updates, news, keep an eye on things)
3. web-programmer


1. h()()t
2. Jonspen
3. MikeIsGod

I've started plans, register at www.tacticsfan.com/forum and we'll give you access to the plans.

[DeadFishGuy]

Uh, jonspen, it's supposed to be just /forum on the end of that url, not /forums.

[banditto]

so the name of the game is Tactics Genesis? and will be out jan 1st? well, if thats true, im looking foreward to seeing it :D Great job guys.

[Jeffery]

No, there is no name for the game Jonspen is discussing,

[Jonspen]

There is a name.

BattleFront Online

I just didn't say it in here.

:P

[Jeffery]

BattleFront Esomething.

That way I can call it BFE.

"Where you been?"
"BFE"

[DeadFishGuy]

How about BattleFront: Eternity?

[Jeffery]

Dammit Jonspen, clean your PM box more often!

[Jonspen]

I cleaned it out. But Im just too damn popular.

Let me clean it out again.

o.O

[Al Caponeoni]

I'm the staff Creative Consultant. Basically I come up with the plot, races, weapon ideas, battle systems, and whatnot. ;)

Jons, I have a rough outline of a plot or a little teaser that you could put on the front page. . .

I'll write it down in the thread in the forum.

[Jonspen]

Excellent. We need a big plan, BIG PLAN. Im writing our course of action for the actual financial side of things.

[T3 Terminater]

Anything I can Help out with, Jonspen?

[Jonspen]

Unless you know Progamming. No.

[T3 Terminater]

Darn. :( Do I look like the person who would know programming?

[Jonspen]

Well your just text to me.

[MikeIsGod]

No offense to Jeff or tacticsfan.com, but if the team has interested I threw up a quick forum dedicated to BFO at:

Http://www.TAORealm.Com/forum

Taorealm.com is not used for anything else, just a domain I had lying around. I thought it was best to have a dedicated forum for BFO instead of being lost in the mix of another one.

[Jonspen]

Hey thanks! We'll probably use that.

Problem is we changed our name.

CyberWars : Aftermath

[***Duo***]

Cool name.


-Duo :)

[Jonspen]

Errr yea. Thanks.

Our site should be up on this coming sunday. :cool:

[MikeIsGod]

Really in need of some artwork.

Looking for a few people (1 to 3) who would like to help out with artwork. Projects range from something as simple as the playing boards to sprite animation. Pm me if you would like to help :)

[Wayfaerer]

this is still going on? ._.

[MikeIsGod]

this is still going on? ._.

Yes, more than just going on.

[Jonspen]

Yep.

We've started.

We need artists.

[h()()t]

delay, The website has been delayed and will probly not be up for another week. Sry for the inconvenonce. I Might be able to wipe together a b/w webpage and just stick it up on the enternet and post updates there.

[Jonspen]

Get your act together dude!

We need the website and graphic designers madly!

[roamingstorm]

is this still an idea? srry i havent read through the thread much but wasnt xerent thinking of doing this as well? or someone had the idea a while back to do something like this? whats happening someone pm me or something it sounds interesting

[Jonspen]

Errr no.

We already set. Apart frpm a graphic designer.....Website up soon....Probably this wekend.

[h()()t]

Get your act together dude!

We need the website and graphic designers madly!

trust me wait this out and i will make it worth your wait.

[h()()t]

Get your act together dude!

We need the website and graphic designers madly!

trust me wait this out and i will make it worth your wait. I am having some personal problems to attend to first. Just wait and I wil have a hell of a site up.

[Jonspen]

Get on AIM.....

.....

We need to have "Alittle Chat"

[xerent]

I was just mildly interested... I'm really too busy with other things.

[Duffman]

We all know you are afraid of the competition Xe. But nice poker face :).

[Jonspen]

Well.

Everything is going well.

Programming is under-way, data base and accoutn function is complete.

Web site is due for sunday.

Still looking for graphic designers, xerent pop on AIM.

[Tama Drummer]

I could do some work graphically if you really need help. Like, I could make and code what I consider a decent website.

[Jonspen]

Truff is handling website now, h()()t couldn't handle it....

I need Weapon designs though, maps boards and what not.

[Tama Drummer]

Truff is handling website now, h()()t couldn't handle it....

I need Weapon designs though, maps boards and what not.

Well, I can't help you there. I have enough problems working with Fireworks to make simple good looking websites, much less weapons and maps. :)

[imagination]

i didnt read every page but i do have one thing to ask. wasnt someone trying to do this like 4 or 5 months ago? i cant remember who but they had a small bit done(little dude that you could move around)

[MikeIsGod]

i didnt read every page but i do have one thing to ask. wasnt someone trying to do this like 4 or 5 months ago? i cant remember who but they had a small bit done(little dude that you could move around)

You might be thinking of Tactics:Genesis, if you are they are comming along quite well from what i've heard.

http://tacticsgenesis.com/

[Tama Drummer]

i didnt read every page but i do have one thing to ask. wasnt someone trying to do this like 4 or 5 months ago? i cant remember who but they had a small bit done(little dude that you could move around)

Captain Jack Sparrow. :cool:

[Jeffery]

No, CJS just had a TAO knight he had recolored.

Genesis has the little dude.

[imagination]

thank you jeffery ... i was kinda wondering about that

[Jonspen]

No, CJS just had a TAO knight he had recolored.

Genesis has the little dude.

And we have a server and a .com. :cool:

[MikeIsGod]

Jospen get on msn when you get a chance. If we have a .com now let me know so i can set up the DNS for it.

Progress:

User data stored in a MySQL database.
MD5 hashes for all passwords.
Ability to create an account.
Ability to log into an account.
Public lobby chat in working order and should hold ~ 400-500 users on current server.
Userlist working like a charm.

Current To Do:
Tweak ping settings to make sure the client is alive.
Add in some exception handlers.
Make it look prettier than it does.
Build the rest of the game. (would help if somebody would tell me what the board layout is like/give me some graphics even if they are done in freaking ms paint)

[Jonspen]

You are a god.

I might try and get Adobe for the layout....Or i'll use Firworks if not.

I "Pinged" you on MSN, I'm buying the .com now.

[MikeIsGod]

First release:

http://208.53.137.165/forum/index.php?topic=19.0