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Bills
01-26-2005, 09:51 PM
Over the last few months TAO has changed a lot. It has grown, with that a lot of new problems like spammers, support issues and packed servers.
We do feel we have gotten a hold of most of the problems, except the spammers which we deal with daily.
There is 1 ongoing problem however. It’s not the game, server or updates. It’s trolling.
These forum which were once a place for open and free discussion regarding, tao and gaming in general. They have now become a haven for trolls. People that have nothing better to do than complain and complain over anything they can.
This has to stop.
If I see one more [tao admin] sucks thread, post, comment ect... that user will be banned.
If a user complains about the ticket system and can not provide a tracking number to back their claim they will also be banned.
Far too many people like attention and scream and cry like babies for it. Others think there is a real problem and think our system doesn’t work when in fact all that user ever wanted is attention. This cycle will end now.
For the 10 percent of forums this applies to… GET BACK TO GAMING. For the other 90 percent, sorry this has gone on so long.
Consider this everyone’s first, second and last warning on the issue. Trolls have been warned.
theburning
01-26-2005, 09:56 PM
lol.
I actually laughed out loud at the term trolling.
I just posted this in another thread, but it suddenly seems relevant here too:
Red Bones- (This time to Bills)-
Honestly, this is what the game needs right now. I found this game on December 3rd 2003, about a week after it was launched. I'm not directing this response in a negative or offensive way whatsoever, so please don't take it as such. What the community here has been needing is some sort of affirmation that we have not been totally forgotten. Your posting in this thread has done that, even though there seems to be a rash of anger venting occuring too. People on this forum have always loved expressing their anger/opinions in ways such as this. I think what everyone is really upset about is they feel abandoned and neglected, and also, there are some cheaters and spammers in the game itself ruining it for others. If there was a moderator with the ability to ban players from the game, 95% of the complaining will stop. I have seen firsthand the ticket system work. You addressed the issue in my ticket in a timely manner, and I am appreciative of that. I for one really appreciate someone (you) coming in the forums and letting us know someone is still out there behind the scenes. And since I've already given you more than my 2 cents worth, I may as well finish :) In my opinion, the best choices for forum administrators you could make would be Tama Drummer, Thirdfloormosher, Hugh Junit, or Northwind. These 4 players stand out by far and away for their decency, maturity, and humor. I've never seen inappropriate behavior, or heard of anyone who doesn't like these 4 individuals. I also think they have the maturity to be able to administrate fairly and effectively.
theburning
01-26-2005, 10:05 PM
I agree. The negativity on these forums needs to be canned.
I'm still laughing at the term trolling though. It sounds so cute for some reason.
truffleshfl
01-26-2005, 10:07 PM
I just got a mental image of one of those shirtless trolls with long colored hair walking around the forum.
Blind Panda
01-26-2005, 10:13 PM
Well said...
I just want you to know, bills, the majority supports you.
truffleshfl
01-26-2005, 10:21 PM
I found a troll. (http://img171.exs.cx/img171/2559/troll1ja.jpg)
Warcow
01-26-2005, 10:25 PM
I found a troll. (http://img171.exs.cx/img171/2559/troll1ja.jpg)
That, friggin rules . . .
*EDIT* Bills, there is another problem, Catalyst on Army is a known cheater, and desperatly needs his stats reset or account deleted. There is proof of this on these forums . . .
Tama Drummer
01-26-2005, 10:37 PM
I found a troll. (http://img171.exs.cx/img171/2559/troll1ja.jpg)
Oh no, and he wants to know what people think of his signature too!!
My sister used to have alot of those actually. I doubt she still has them though, she's turning 18 in March. Actually, I haven't seen alot of the stuff I remember from when I was younger. It's like it all just disapeared...
Anyways, Bills, will there be a server wipe soon? And are you the only one that can do server wipes, or can Rebones and Bo1 do that too? I'm just a bit curious. But I figure as long as I'm not a cat, I won't die. Hehe... that's another thing I remember from a while ago. I remember my grandmother telling me curiousity killed te cat. And I also remember her cat, which was named scaredy, er something like that. And I remember liking that cat... and I don't remember it dieing, but it did. :(
I think this is my first post in the anouncements forum! Woot! Ok, I'm really tired.
*goes back and edits his post*
I think that was to prove me wrong?
Tama Drummer
01-26-2005, 10:42 PM
*goes back and edits his post*
I think that was to prove me wrong?
Are you talking to me? I don't think I was trying to prove anyone wrong...
Office_Shredder
01-27-2005, 04:59 AM
Question... since I only used the ticket system once a way long time ago, by "tracking number" is there a number that you're given when you submit a ticket, or is it something else?
theburning
01-27-2005, 05:01 AM
Anyways, Bills, will there be a server wipe soon? And are you the only one that can do server wipes, or can Rebones and Bo1 do that too?
Seed does the wipes.
wolf rayne {D}
01-27-2005, 05:29 AM
yo. i just read this thread and i say "go bills"
i think that alot of people spam, like bills said to get attention and to tempt the moderators.
well. anyways, good work bills!!!!
Walrus
01-27-2005, 05:55 AM
i agree to an extent with bills, there are a lot of attention seekers who will complain no matter what happens. BUT, there are also many people (me included) who think there are some genuine problems with TAO right now, i concur that flaming and whining isnt the way to go about solving this, but bills, you need to recognise that there are problems and try to work with the community to solve them.
Glamdring
01-27-2005, 10:08 AM
This is probably the hardest thing I've ever written on these forums, but...
bills you're right, and I apologize.
I've been doing exactly what you're talking about, though in slightly less direct ways than creating "[TAO admin] sucks" threads. I admit, my feelings are probably very biased, and your administration probably isn't as bad as I make it out to be on a daily basis. However, saying that and changing my feelings are two different things, and I think it will be a while before I stop blaming all of TAO's problems on you. Therefor, I will simply refrain from posting or chatting in the lobby about you, DR, or anything pertaining to the way things work around here, until I can get over myself.
I'm sorry for the trouble I've caused. I know I'm one of the more prominent members of the community here, and rather than acting like it, I've been abusing it. Perhaps my break from TAO was not quite long enough.
Jonspen
01-27-2005, 10:37 AM
That was very open of you..
But serioudly, Bills. The people of these forums did have a "problem" with the "problems"
It woulf have been much easier, if you complied with these problems quicker, instead of letting our community feel let down.
Dont take this wrongly, or as an insult. But you cant blame everything on us now. As there are a few things still missed out, or you didnt publocally announce so we couldnt know if there was progress or not.
Im talking about the dates and deadlines you set for certain things, and didnt comply.
Im not saying your a bad admin, no way. Im just saying, that if you do things that involve this community, it's best to tell us so we know your doing it.
Also, I would like to confess. I was abit annoying and selfless. I do own up to my actions and for being a pest/troll.
If you have to, ban me. But ban me for the good of this community, not for yourself. That is all I ask.
theburning
01-27-2005, 11:17 AM
Also, I would like to confess. I was abit annoying and selfless. I do own up to my actions and for being a pest/troll.
Did you mean to write selfless?
Or selfish?
Goldberg
01-27-2005, 11:29 AM
I'm pretty sure selfish is what he meant.
theburning
01-27-2005, 11:31 AM
I'm pretty sure selfish is what he meant.
Yeah I thought so!
The word selfless just doesn't seem to be an accurate word to use when describing Jonspen. :)
Sephiroth__99
01-27-2005, 11:44 AM
Not meaning to 'troll', but when i was gold (and still am on rev) i sent a forum upgrade ticket. The email i got saying it was resolved said 'account banned'. I had to re-create this acct, and it never went gold! plz tell me the answer to this question:
WHY?!?!?
Jonspen
01-27-2005, 01:03 PM
Yeah I thought so!
The word selfless just doesn't seem to be an accurate word to use when describing Jonspen. :)
Oh shucks.
Yea, that is what I ment to say. "Doh!"
Moose
01-27-2005, 01:13 PM
Wow trolling, theres a good one :)
Anyways Bills you right and wrong at the same time, yes it is annoying that people will keep pesturing admins/mods on these problems, and yes it is something simple to be fixed, well here's the problem of the problems, why can't you just fix it? I mean come on, it's not that big of a deal, your contract with Seed allows you to treat this game as commericially as you want, i have been experiencing problems with the ticket system seeing as i sent in for my gold account on the forums a week ago, and about gold union, they might be complainers but they make a point.
By making this thread, your just trying to make yourself look more of the bad guy to all these people. So really what your doing is opening a gateway that has potential and destructive possibilites, sorry guy.
Cheers,
Moosey
Jonspen
01-27-2005, 01:18 PM
You explained it better than I did.
Like he said, your right and wrong. For, your right for saying we cpmplain, but your wrong because when we do complain, you ignore it.
Tama Drummer
01-27-2005, 01:21 PM
Seed does the wipes.
Really? Oh, I never knew that. Well sorry then Bills, for any time that I may have blamed you for not having the servers wiped. :)
Bills
01-27-2005, 03:20 PM
Thanks guys I'm glad most agree.
As for the problems in TAO alot of it was explained by Redbones in posts in other places, as well as myself. No one wants problems with TAO, but like everything in life you can make things perfect and fix everything always. You can't compare TAO now to what is was a year ago so we are working on things everyday. We have a new admin and also a new mod just this week.
We do however have a nice system in place and things seem pretty stable at the moment.
As I said in this post Moose post a ticket number, becuase in our system there is no record of your ticket or a ticket by your account name...
Cuathon
01-27-2005, 05:42 PM
bills, i think you are doing pretty well and that your ticket thingie worked fine for me. also banning/punishing *the nothing* would go a long way to show your seriousness.
Walrus
01-27-2005, 05:57 PM
No one wants problems with TAO, but like everything in life you can make things perfect and fix everything always.
lovin that typo. :p
bills, i think you are doing pretty well and that your ticket thingie worked fine for me. also banning/punishing *the nothing* would go a long way to show your seriousness.
Zero tolerance for any cheating of any form is what is desperately needed. People who violate the integrity of our ranking system need to start over or be totally removed for repeated offenses.
Clacker
01-27-2005, 06:57 PM
As I lover of the game and a hater of the cheaters, spammers and trolls, I admire the effort put forth Bills. Good job.
theburning
01-27-2005, 07:08 PM
As I lover of the game and a hater of the cheaters, spammers and trolls, I admire the effort put forth Bills. Good job.
It's totally off subject!
But your banner made me laugh out loud. :)
Red Fire
01-27-2005, 09:16 PM
Bills, I hate to say this, but you are right in a sense that there has been spamming, but probably most of it is we can't except the change from Divine to you. It's something we were attached to, the system, people and relationship for TAO. I am not sorry for all that I have said, but some parts yes I am. I'm sure that in time, things will become eaiser for us and TAO. Just remember, we are people and have feelings too, you give child a puppy then take it away and kill it, the child becomes sad.
As for the problems in TAO alot of it was explained by Redbones in posts in other places, as well as myself. No one wants problems with TAO, but like everything in life you can make things perfect and fix everything always. You can't compare TAO now to what is was a year ago so we are working on things everyday. We have a new admin and also a new mod just this week.
We do however have a nice system in place and things seem pretty stable at the moment.
No offence, but with all these people how could it NOT be stable from the start?
-Red
Moose
01-27-2005, 11:11 PM
Thanks guys I'm glad most agree.
As for the problems in TAO alot of it was explained by Redbones in posts in other places, as well as myself. No one wants problems with TAO, but like everything in life you can make things perfect and fix everything always. You can't compare TAO now to what is was a year ago so we are working on things everyday. We have a new admin and also a new mod just this week.
We do however have a nice system in place and things seem pretty stable at the moment.
As I said in this post Moose post a ticket number, becuase in our system there is no record of your ticket or a ticket by your account name...
Oh I agree Bills, you can never have a perfect system, however I don't think it's "un-reasonable" to try and take some time and actually have a chat with all these people directly then posting this to those people in-directly.
I'll submit a new ticket number I guess, seeing as my email that had it is gone :P (stupid 5 day deletion thing)
Moosey
P.S: if you have time, do you mind pm'ing me or posting your thoughts on the prizes for my tourny, when and if you will allow prizes to be handed out by a non-moderator or you can just assign someone to hand them out for me :)
AssassinOfLords
01-28-2005, 02:53 PM
There is a definate problem with this in the forums, but as it has always existed at a level, and does on every active forum. But if the community gets filled with respected people who were once peaceful and now "troll" that indicates a general feeling of negativity. Now it may not be the fault of the one recieving the complaints, but it definatly represents a problem. Now, I'm going to do a little trolling. Rather than banning and removing all those who will troll, why not listen to their complaints and fix them? If they create a thread and say that the ticket system didn't work and then they outline their problem, don't tell them to send in a ticket, just fix their problem. They may not have sent in a ticket at all and are just doing it to get attention, but if they say that the ticket system did not work, and then you tell them to send in a ticket...that's what draws the trolling. As if you just fixed the problem, then the community will see you as someone who will help those who are too stupid to help themselves. Thus quelling the trolling at least a small amount.
Threating to ban all those who oppose you will make you seem like the brute, or troll.
Jonspen
01-28-2005, 03:01 PM
Because most trolling is mindless drool that is just their for the sake of complaining?
I still like what you said though.
You said that instead of letting them have the advtantage, deal with it properly and take it in your stride? Just like he did when everyone negged him?
The only way he could really get on the good side, is to fix everything that is currently wrong. Get up to speed and be abit nicer to the community. We aren't the only Troll#s around here.
More mods wont really help either, all that is accomplishing is covering up with a extra outburst. Abit like when you announced those competitions that ended last year and nobody ever heard of again, yes the ones I keep bumping.
Can I ask, did SlipnoticX get banned for what he said? I thought it was a pretty good post to be honest.
In anyway, Ive dribbled on enough aswell. I already gave my 2 cents on page 2.
So to round off, I still think this is going down hill, but you could fix it if you listened to what people have to say, instead of ignoring us and watching the money roll in.
Bills
01-28-2005, 04:41 PM
I see my message wasn't too clear, take 5 days off to READ what I wrote.
ko71991
01-28-2005, 05:32 PM
NO! Jonny.
Wait what DID he say?
Bills
01-28-2005, 05:42 PM
"So to round off, I still think this is going down hill, but you could fix it if you listened to what people have to say, instead of ignoring us and watching the money roll in."
ei... Trolling.
AssassinOfLords
01-28-2005, 06:01 PM
Damn Bills, you must love me, if I didn't get banned for that previous post.
Northwind
01-28-2005, 06:04 PM
Bills,
Consider this trolling if you will, but it is meant as friendly advice. Your apparent tendency to ban those who criticize you seems to only inflame those who feel that things aren't going well. It doesn't actually change their perception, but rather reinforces their complaints. Perhaps another approach might be more effective.
And, if you will note, I have not been a part of the trolling as I am generally content to sit on the sidelines during this type of thing. However, these endless bannings do not seem to be accomplishing you anything.
ko71991
01-28-2005, 06:04 PM
Oh ok.
I thought I was gonan get banned too. *whew*
Bills
01-28-2005, 06:34 PM
Damn Bills, you must love me, if I didn't get banned for that previous post.
Stating what you think based on things you know is fine. Saying things like we are rolling around in heaps of money and we don't care about customers is Trolling.
ko71991
01-28-2005, 06:37 PM
Can I ask when we're gonna know who won in the front page image contest?
lildj05
01-28-2005, 07:54 PM
"So to round off, I still think this is going down hill, but you could fix it if you listened to what people have to say, instead of ignoring us and watching the money roll in."
ei... Trolling.
I agree with Jonspen that it seems like you're just sitting here, loving all of this money you keep getting rolling in... this could be untrue, as i have not been here long but from the other people that "troll"(<<<<<<<<WDF) they say YOU are repsonsible for these idiotic "upgrades". one for example is the futuristic upgrade to the forums for a medieval game. im sorry, but thats stupid lol. even though i dont have a problem with that im just bringing up other people's complaints, or "trolls"(<<<<<LMFAOOOOO). im mainly just writing in here cuz i was sooo pissed that my ex-rolemodel(jonny) was banned for expressing his opinion. true he expressed it as if it was a known fact, but nontheless it was HIS opinion, and he should be entitled to it.
(takes a breathe, never written this much before)
can u please,like, not ban me tho, cuz i pay for this, and i dont want to go through all the trouble of cancelling my gold. or if u must at least make it a temp.
now as for me, my complaint is very small.
id like new units. see that biiig create-a-unit forum thingy? need to read some of those. im tired of this. i payed initially to get that "super cool furgy" everyone was talking about. now that i got it its like....ok... i mean i know ur not GOD or anything, so i domt expect you to give us new units everyday, but id like a new unit at least every 2 months.... you probably cant do it by yourself, but isnt that why your minions are here(redbones,bo1)?
thats pretty much all my trolling.
until im a vet.
Farewell, Bills(btw pleez dont ban me i seriously wasnt trying to be an arse, if you want me to edit this post i will)
*waves at jonny*
Office_Shredder
01-28-2005, 08:06 PM
please ban his ass bills :D
Umm... a unit hasn't been created from the create-a-unit forum since... forever.
actgfin1234
01-28-2005, 08:13 PM
I really wish I could say what I really wanted to. But I don't need "Banned" Under my name for a fourth time. Plus, being a troll would just be so unflattering. I will say that I agree completely with Northwind. Even if the way I would have said it wouldn't have been quite so civilized. I'll bite my tongue this time.
lildj05
01-28-2005, 08:32 PM
please ban his ass bills :D
Umm... a unit hasn't been created from the create-a-unit forum since... forever.
if that wasnt being a troll (cept towards me) i dunno wut was
can u get a life besides harassing 13 year olds? dont u have MJ's number?(not talking about mickael jordan)
that post was also spam, you cant deny it.
Office_Shredder
01-28-2005, 08:37 PM
Can you say joke?
:rolleyes:
That's what the " :D " means
lildj05
01-28-2005, 08:49 PM
rolleyes mean sarcasm, you wasnt playing u want me gone for no reason. u hate me becasue all th other "vets" hate me. well guess what. billls is cracking down on all u "vets" for being trolls. so id rather be a noob than banned.
initially only like 3 ppl hate me, then the others saw this "vet" hate me an the list grew. i have a red box for absolutely no reason....
Office_Shredder
01-28-2005, 08:54 PM
:rolleyes: means sarcasm
:D means a completely satirical joke.
If you want further info on this, join my AP Posting theory class
Red Fire
01-28-2005, 08:56 PM
"If A is the success in life, A equals x, y, and z. X is play, y is work, and z is keeping your mouth shut." -Albert Enstien
We can say all we want about Bills and others on other forums... I have learned that posting on these forums gets you banned. Leave critizing someone to another forum, let's try to get our nice TAO community back into shape and it's old self.
Bills, directed at you, unban Jospen, he was expressing his opinoin and that's legal in this world. I know your the Admin. and such but that doesn't give you the right to tell people that they can't speak out, that's called Dictatorship. Please unban him....
-Red
psychofireman
01-28-2005, 09:01 PM
you think this is america where you have freedoms to do what ever you want to? no, this is the internet and i never saw any internet rules that said you have the freedom of speach or anything else like that. so therefore the person who runs the website can do what ever he pleases no matter what people think about it. and it is the people choice to frequent those websites or not. the rule has been laid down, accept it or leave
Red Fire
01-28-2005, 09:09 PM
Where did you get the nerve to respond to me like that? Did you not see the "Bills, this is directed at you" sentence. Geez...
-Red
PS- I'm not American, I'm Canadian, even my location says so....
psychofireman
01-28-2005, 10:09 PM
I was using america as a reference
lildj05
01-28-2005, 10:13 PM
shut up psycho i totally agree with red fire except canda sucks.
Medemia
01-28-2005, 11:03 PM
lildj, let me explain why you aren't liked much and it's not because some vets decided to pick on poor lildj. First of all, there are 13 year olds who are part of this board who put thought into their posts. Take Dim for instance. Smart kid. You do not.
If you want to be a vet, it has nothing to do with post count. There are vets here with less than 100 posts. There are complete noob morons here with over 600. Post count has nothing to do with it. It's content, thought, and display that makes a vet. Your content stinks, your thought process is that of a five year old and your display looks like you just woke up from a drunken orgy and tried to give a speach to a group of college professors about Barney and Friends. You should really pay attention to my post in the IQ test thread. It will make you a better poster.
theburning
01-28-2005, 11:17 PM
shut up psycho i totally agree with red fire except canda sucks.
I'm starting to not know what to do with you.
I've been looking over your posts and 95% of them are totally useless.
What part of next step is a permanent ban isn't understood?
Red Fire
01-28-2005, 11:22 PM
J/w, but was all that referred to me as well?
-Red
psychofireman
01-28-2005, 11:30 PM
I'm starting to not know what to do with you.
I've been looking over your posts and 95% of them are totally useless.
What part of next step is a permanent ban isn't understood?
computer.... $400
Internet connection....$49.95
Logging on tao to see lildj05 get band...Priceless
lildj05
01-29-2005, 08:41 AM
wdf i cant say canda sucks? its my opinion! why dont u guys back off until i curse, or until i spam! god darnit. i didnt even do anything cept side with red fire and say canda sucks. are you from canda or sumpn cuz if you are, you suck too
ITS ME AND BILLS AGAINST DA WORLD!! as soon as he unbans jonny, i consider him a friend. Mr. Wizard
AssassinOfLords
01-29-2005, 09:26 AM
*reads last post by lildj*
Oh god, please say your from Chicago (as opposed to some other place in Illinois), if so, give me your address and if you have an alarm system or not. Just wondering. :) Really though, I laughed hard when I read that last post.
I used to like you, but this one thread has made me lose all respect for you. I no longer wonder why you have a red box. Or why someone would put you on their ignore list.
Med, pos rep for you.
Bills, come on, admit it, you love me. :)
(takes a breathe, never written this much before)
*laughs* You've obviously never seen a long post before.
[shameless plug]Long Post (http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12763&)[/shameless plug]
Woo hoo, all words above look like a disorganized rant. Maybe I'm turning into lildj05. *third smiley here*
lildj05
01-29-2005, 09:52 AM
i said IVE never written that much before. and u didnt post, u made a book.
AssassinOfLords
01-29-2005, 10:03 AM
So, are you from Chicago, or not?
Moose
01-29-2005, 03:05 PM
Alright lets just stop the spamming, we can't win against Bills, he pretends to be god on here, fine let him be god, he obviously can only see 1 sided arguements to his favour.
So let him do what he does.
Moosey
Megabyte
01-29-2005, 06:06 PM
question:
these bans...
just forum effective? or TAO as a whole (i.e. in game)?
Poop Slinger
01-29-2005, 10:45 PM
Actually i think I finally figured it out out.. And sadly I might get banned for this humorous view.. But what he does is just log on do a search for the word "m o n e y". and anyone who posts using that word gets banned. I mean just follow bannings and times he appears out of the mist.. whenever that word is mentioned he posts very soon after.. :rolleyes:
Its like he is running a monopoly on the word and not just the funds received.. :p I find it humorous.. and not in a bad way...
cs_zero
01-29-2005, 10:47 PM
lol, rep for you! :)
theburning
01-29-2005, 11:30 PM
question:
these bans...
just forum effective? or TAO as a whole (i.e. in game)?
The forums and the game are seperate.
People banned on here need to spam etc. in the game in order to be banned there too.
Glamdring
02-02-2005, 01:32 PM
The forums and the game are seperate.
People banned on here need to spam etc. in the game in order to be banned there too.
Good to know, just for reference. I always wondered about that, and I know other people have as well.
Serge
02-02-2005, 02:25 PM
I dislike Trollers as much as the next guy, but instead of a zero tolerance policy, couldn't you just give them a friendly warning (http://img90.exs.cx/img90/6547/Troll.jpg) first?
Moose
02-02-2005, 02:35 PM
I dislike Trollers as much as the next guy, but instead of a zero tolerance policy, couldn't you just give them a friendly warning (http://img90.exs.cx/img90/6547/Troll.jpg) first?
I'm speechless and in awe of that picture, truely genious.
Moosey
Walrus
02-02-2005, 02:36 PM
p.s if someone wants to direct seed to CAU, or just direct to my unit archive, itd be cool.
Serge
02-02-2005, 02:37 PM
I didn't make it, I had the same reaction when I saw it used on another forum.
Jonspen
02-03-2005, 08:45 AM
Guess I learned my lesson.
Not really, but I'll cut down on the "Trolling"
Liquid Swordsman
02-03-2005, 03:06 PM
Now all you need to cut down on is the moron.
AssassinOfLords
02-04-2005, 07:52 AM
That was completly uncalled for.
Jonspen
02-04-2005, 08:33 AM
He cant help it.
AssassinOfLords
02-04-2005, 11:56 AM
Previous argument?
Jonspen
02-04-2005, 01:15 PM
Previous argument?
All the time.
Machin Shin
02-04-2005, 02:48 PM
As for this so called "trolling" (I'd like to see that in webster's next time they do the new word thing), let's just say I've never been stupid enough to voice my oppinions where everybody and their mother can see it. Then again, I must admit, I've never had any problems. Then again again :rolleyes: , I've never had to use the ticket system or anything like that.
One thing that I personally would like to see is a better crack down on cheaters/spammers. I've personally reported... 5 I think? cheaters and spammers, screenshot, PMed a mod, the whole works and to my knowlege, nothing has been done. I had about 9 screenshots of one guy... and nothing.
Of course, Bills will never be able to please everybody, so I suppose just please the majority and get rid of *The Nothing*/Catalyst ;)
EDIT: W00t! Page 3 baby ; )
Jonspen
02-04-2005, 02:57 PM
You mean Page 6 by my settings.
zzzaacckk
02-04-2005, 02:58 PM
ya he has them set to maximum posts per page. I have it set there too.
Machin Shin
02-04-2005, 03:35 PM
lol of all the offhanded posts... see, not having dial up is great phun
AssassinOfLords
02-04-2005, 06:20 PM
In other words, 40 posts/page.
Tephros
02-04-2005, 07:44 PM
well this "trolling" problem seemed to be fixed... but ban ppl without and advice first maybe its a lil unfair don't u think? neway... i have sended tickets and my problems had been fixed... no complain at all Bills... i think that u just need to be a lil more around here and have contact with the ppl, the players of this game we luv, i think this will solve almost all problems don't u think?
maybe we want a lil of attention that's all, but i agree with ya, there are nice forms to ask for help
Liquid Swordsman
02-04-2005, 08:23 PM
ya he has them set to maximum posts per page. I have it set there too.
How do you set that?
Nevermind. Found it.
razor2007
02-05-2005, 08:44 AM
Ok, yes Bills, you're right there are a lot of "trolls" out there that need to be dealt with, BUT going around threatening people is not the way to do it. You're just antagonizing them. CERTAINLY, you shouldn't squealch opinions, mine/mel's/golds/grey, ne1's. This was a good idea to start, but now it has gotten out fo hand when people can be banned for expressing their opinion. I can't speak for en1 else but i live in the USA where i expect to be able to express my opinion, and i take it as an insult whne someone tries to squealch that. ahve to say bravo for trying to deal with the spammers, but i have to disagree with your assessment that you have most of the problems under control. SO basically, I like the idea, and i applaud your efforts to enact in, but you may have stepped over the line when you crossed from banning cheaters/spammers to people expressing their opinions in a way that does not violate TOS.
greendaybum5
02-05-2005, 02:34 PM
Is it possible to get an account that is B.F.T (banned for trolling) unbanned? is there anything they can do?
Bills
02-05-2005, 02:52 PM
Consider allowing them to post under another user name their second chance because after that IP bans will follow and now we can match forum IPs to in game IPs.
Jonspen
02-05-2005, 02:55 PM
What?
Bills banned me for Trolling. And I learnt my lesson.
But according to the other mods you get banned for having dual accounts?!?
Also, isnt forum and game seperate?
Bills
02-05-2005, 02:57 PM
Account A gets banned for something then you jump to your Account B to keep going.
This will result in both accounts being deleted and your IP/email to be blocked.
It's pretty simple guys just be cool and play nice with others.
Jonspen
02-05-2005, 03:00 PM
Ohh now I understand.
Well, there's still lots of work to do (Cracking down on spammers)
But currently Im quite impressed with what yoru doing, sorry i doubted you before, Bills. I understand how hard it is with the current curcumstances.
Anyway, before I get into more trouble. I wanna add a random note.
Nice new avy, did Duff do it in pivot for you? First time I saw it I laughed out loud.
Bills
02-05-2005, 03:04 PM
Actually the burning came up with a great way to track and deal with spammers and cheaters it's simple but works great. Cudos to her.
Jonspen
02-05-2005, 03:06 PM
Ahh, remind me to congrats her on msn later.
But what about those who's IP's jump about for securtity reasons and network reasons?
Also, can I ask. Do you guys have powers in game now? I heard you logged on banff regularlly not that long ago.
zzzaacckk
02-05-2005, 03:07 PM
I believe it was done as a joke to see if he would notice...Bills also used to be around GL a lot now he visits a little...
Jonspen
02-05-2005, 03:11 PM
Well, I guess being bugged alot by logging on is a bad thing.
Thats what drove Seed into not logging on legends.
greendaybum5
02-05-2005, 03:45 PM
So once an account is B.F.T then it's useless and they have a second chance on another account. is that correct? B.F.T pretty much kills the account right?
Jonspen
02-05-2005, 03:48 PM
No.
I got B.F.T for 5 days.
Glamdring
02-05-2005, 04:19 PM
Actually the burning came up with a great way to track and deal with spammers and cheaters it's simple but works great. Cudos to her.
You spelled kudos wrong.
Machin Shin
02-05-2005, 04:45 PM
thank you for that; that was informitive, and even useful :rolleyes:
But I have to hand it to ya Bills, that first week after DR left, you worked your butt off.
please ban his ass bills :D
Umm... a unit hasn't been created from the create-a-unit forum since... forever.
please, do ban his ass
and bills, for comming on a server today, the 1st time to my knowlage and actually talking things out with a number of people is a good step twords making a better TAO
actgfin1234
02-05-2005, 05:02 PM
He's been on before, you just have shitty timing; TROLL!
Sephiroth__99
02-05-2005, 07:55 PM
Ya know, bills is actually getting to become better at this job since he was about a week after DR left (make new webpage, then slack off)..... I'm gonna pos rep him for that and say:
Great job man! TAO is slowly but surely getting better than before!!
ok im done now :p
Liquid Swordsman
02-05-2005, 09:30 PM
ok im done now :p
Thank god.
greendaybum5
02-06-2005, 12:11 AM
No.
I got B.F.T for 5 days.
ok thanks
Machin Shin
02-06-2005, 06:56 AM
And bills, for comming on a server today and actually talking things out with a number of people is a good step twords making a better TAO
How true.
Duffman
04-24-2005, 08:08 AM
IN THE FORUMS-- He lingers in the shadows like a Quake-playing camper, a witless coward waiting to shoot someone in the back with a half-conceived verbal sniper-shot. He hides behind ill-conceived pseudo-names, like W1NGNUT or LAM3R or PAUL, disguising his true identity in order to protect himself from the scorn of his Real Life peers. He roams from forum to forum looking for someone or something to denounce, because he's a bitter, frightened, nerd-of-the-ages. This creature is the farking troll. (http://www.thetoque.com/050222/farking_troll.htm)
Click to read on.
dirka dirka
04-24-2005, 08:30 AM
After recapitulating this thread, I thank God that Sergiy can take constructive criticism and ask us our opinions (without calling us trolls). You rock Sergiy.
As for that last post duffy, ROFL. They even got a picture of The Cheat:
http://www.thetoque.com/050222/pics/farking_troll.jpg
DARKSMILE
04-24-2005, 08:46 AM
After recapitulating this thread, I thank God that Sergiy can take constructive criticism and ask us our opinions (without calling us trolls). You rock Sergiy.
As for that last post duffy, ROFL. They even got a picture of The Cheat:
http://www.thetoque.com/050222/pics/farking_troll.jpg
I agree sergiy, you rock!!
ROFLMAO the cheat
T3 Terminater
04-24-2005, 12:01 PM
T3 Master troller!
Krome
04-24-2005, 02:17 PM
Why has this been necroed?
dirka dirka
04-24-2005, 02:20 PM
Why has this been necroed?
Because duff had something funny to post...
You spelled kudos wrong.
troll :dry:
dirka dirka
04-24-2005, 03:41 PM
troll :dry:
Glam's special. :bigsmile:
The Prophet
04-24-2005, 08:51 PM
As for that last post duffy, ROFL. They even got a picture of The Cheat:The cheat? I swear to God when I read that it was going to have your name beside it.
dirka dirka
04-24-2005, 09:01 PM
The cheat? I swear to God when I read that it was going to have your name beside it.
That was soo original.. I wish I would have thought of an insult like that... oh wait? I did, already, before you.
Jeffery
04-24-2005, 10:26 PM
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/uc/20050415/lnq050416.gif
Moose
04-25-2005, 01:54 PM
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/uc/20050415/lnq050416.gif
Meh, it can go either way.
Blexican
04-26-2005, 07:31 AM
As for that last post duffy, ROFL. They even got a picture of The Cheat:
http://www.thetoque.com/050222/pics/farking_troll.jpg
there so talented!
ko71991
04-27-2005, 07:53 PM
As for that last post duffy, ROFL. They even got a picture of The Cheat:
http://www.thetoque.com/050222/pics/farking_troll.jpg
Woa! That's gonna give me nightmares...
The Cheat
04-30-2005, 12:06 PM
After recapitulating this thread, I thank God that Sergiy can take constructive criticism and ask us our opinions (without calling us trolls). You rock Sergiy.
As for that last post duffy, ROFL. They even got a picture of The Cheat:
http://www.thetoque.com/050222/pics/farking_troll.jpg
That is not right Dirka Dirka. Not right at all. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
T3 Terminater
04-30-2005, 10:15 PM
ROFLMAO!!!! THAT IS HILARIOUS!!!
But that's also mean. I'm going to have nightmares to Ko.
Ignition
05-01-2005, 06:41 AM
I just think its funny becaus for like the first time ever Cheat feels bad, some one finaly got him upset for a change
The Cheat
05-01-2005, 10:33 AM
I just think its funny becaus for like the first time ever Cheat feels bad, some one finaly got him upset for a change
I get upset all the time. I am human after all.
T3 Terminater
05-01-2005, 12:04 PM
Lol, you have two boxes the cheat!
The Cheat
05-01-2005, 12:29 PM
Ya pretty cool huh? :cool: :cool: :cool:
Ignition
05-02-2005, 06:05 AM
and he even stated that he was tired of being a "good little boy" and was going to go back to being the offishal ass of TAO :p
The Cheat
05-02-2005, 05:35 PM
Ya but i'm gonna try to be nice.
ko71991
05-02-2005, 08:26 PM
ROFLMAO!!!! THAT IS HILARIOUS!!!
But that's also mean. I'm going to have nightmares to Ko.
Hmm, does that mean your gonna give me your nightmares? Meanie...
Thebronze
05-03-2005, 09:04 AM
he said meanie... its on! :p
Hoolwath
05-03-2005, 09:24 AM
Lol, you have two boxes the cheat!
Dont tell me, you have never repped him. (pos repped him)
Thebronze
05-03-2005, 09:27 AM
I cant believe you let the cheats power overthrow us!
Hoolwath
05-03-2005, 09:36 AM
I know but aint he just so cool?
Thebronze
05-03-2005, 09:39 AM
I suppose.. when he wants to be
The Cheat
05-03-2005, 02:52 PM
I know but aint he just so cool?
I can vouch for that! :cool: :cool: :cool:
BLOOD HOUNDZ
05-03-2005, 04:13 PM
Well bills i think you are right there are too many trollers and i have witnesed it for myself i cannot name names and i know your warning will help so lets get back to gaming! as you said......
by the way......LOL trolling what a funny name... ;) :) :bigsmile: :D :p
dirka dirka
05-03-2005, 04:15 PM
aight, time to let it die again
Thebronze
05-03-2005, 05:59 PM
agreed.
X-Takhisis
05-18-2005, 08:26 PM
i am not trying to sound like a "troll" but i think your advarters should include some inuyasha pics :fire:
Jeffery
05-18-2005, 08:38 PM
Buy a gold account, upgrade your forum account, and put up your own.
ko71991
05-18-2005, 08:39 PM
Buy a gold account, upgrade your forum account, and put up your own.
He does have one, all he has to do is upgrade.
BLOOD HOUNDZ
05-19-2005, 09:26 AM
What the hell are you talking about ko? :confused: :confused: :confused: :
Jeffery
05-19-2005, 01:13 PM
Blood hound your banner is WAY to huge, if you don;t make a smaller one, a Mod will remove that from you.
And he simply said that he has a gold account in the game already, he just needs to send a ticket to upgrade his forum account.
Cephas
09-09-2005, 08:12 AM
Deck the halls with boughs of holly
Fa-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la
'Tis the season to be jolly
Fa-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la
Don we now our gay apparel
Fa-la-la, la-la-la, la-la-la.
Troll the ancient Yule-tide carol
Fa-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la.
See the blazing Yule before us.
Fa-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la
Strike the harp and join the chorus.
Fa-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la
Follow me in merry measure.
Fa-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la
While I tell of Yule-tide treasure.
Fa-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la
Fast away the old year passes.
Fa-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la
Hail the new year, lads and lasses
Fa-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la
Sing we joyous, all together.
Fa-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la
heedless of the wind and weather.
Fa-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la
Have I just broken the rules by 'Trolling' the ancient Yule-tide carol?
I had to do it, I've had it on my mind for over a week now, perhaps I should cower as I wait for the banning...
*cringes*
_Thunder_
09-09-2005, 08:25 AM
That just screams i need a rep. :laugh:
Shiny Flors
09-09-2005, 09:22 AM
To all Administrators and/or mods,
Please give Cephas a ban. He and I were talking via AIM/ICQ and he thinks his YuleTide carol deserves a ban since it is trolling. I tried unsuccessfully to get him to edit his post and to convince him the YuleTide Carol was more spam than trolling. Since he does not think things through sometimes I am here requesting, on his behalf, a temporary ban. He think the admins would have a delightful time trying to track all of the different IP's he uses, to ban them all, at least temporarily.
I hope this post finds everyone in good health and with happiness.
Best regards,
Shiny Flors
Cephas
09-09-2005, 09:25 AM
To all Administrators and/or mods,
Please give Cephas a ban. He and I were talking via AIM/ICQ and he thinks his YuleTide carol deserves a ban since it is trolling. I tried unsuccessfully to get him to edit his post and to convince him the YuleTide Carol was more spam than trolling. Since he does not think things through sometimes I am here requesting, on his behalf, a temporary ban. He think the admins would have a delightful time trying to track all of the different IP's he uses, to ban them all, at least temporarily.
I hope this post finds everyone in good health and with happiness.
Best regards,
Shiny Flors
I am now a hardened troller! Just take a look at this! (http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/fish/fish2060.htm) I am drunk with my own power, and consider myself invincible! (Not to be mixed up with invisible, which I am as well.)
Shiny Flors
09-09-2005, 09:32 AM
I am now a hardened troller! Just take a look at this! (http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/fish/fish2060.htm) I am drunk with my own power, and consider myself invincible! (Not to be mixed up with invisible, which I am as well.)
This is Cephas (http://images.animationfactory.com/animations/creatures/miscellaneous/trolling_computer_forums/trolling_computer_forums_lg_wm.gif) at his computer now.
Cephas
09-09-2005, 09:36 AM
This is Cephas (http://images.animationfactory.com/animations/creatures/miscellaneous/trolling_computer_forums/trolling_computer_forums_lg_wm.gif) at his computer now.
I always pictured myself as a cuter troll (http://www.pagiserver.cz/store/ender/Cave%20troll%203.jpg)
Shiny Flors
09-09-2005, 09:56 AM
I always pictured myself as a cuter troll (http://www.pagiserver.cz/store/ender/Cave%20troll%203.jpg)
When you get tired of trolling (http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/fish/fish2060.htm) , try noodling (http://espn.go.com/winnercomm/outdoors/fishing/i/P2_f_col_noodling_Sutton2.jpg) .
Cephas
09-09-2005, 10:03 AM
When you get tired of trolling (http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/fish/fish2060.htm) , try noodling (http://espn.go.com/winnercomm/outdoors/fishing/i/P2_f_col_noodling_Sutton2.jpg) .
Noodling is more like this (http://www.peter.com.au/photos/photos/2004-12-17-Amy-Swimming-With-Sue_12-Amy-Noodle.jpg). The problem with Noodling is that it is not against forum rules. The lack of a prohibition renders the activity lackluster and dull...
Glamdring
09-09-2005, 01:20 PM
But see... I don't need to go tracking your different IP's. The system hands them to me on a silver platter.
Or I could just permanently ban your account :)
Gotta be tough on these trollers you see. Gotta show 'em who's boss.
MokoToko
09-09-2005, 01:23 PM
I always pictured myself as a cuter troll (http://www.pagiserver.cz/store/ender/Cave%20troll%203.jpg)
I always pictured you as. (http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/5613/mooning7nr.jpg)
Edit by Glam: Sorry moko :wink2:
Hoolwath
09-09-2005, 01:36 PM
Make the nose longer and give him a tongue.
Glamdring
09-09-2005, 01:38 PM
I fixed him. :)
Hoolwath
09-09-2005, 01:40 PM
Nice! Now its even better! :) You are sure havin fun with your powers Glam.
MokoToko
09-09-2005, 01:42 PM
Yeah, cephas looks like a censor bar!
Cephas
09-09-2005, 01:55 PM
Yeah, cephas looks like a censor bar!
:( Does a censor bar have any nutritional value?
Hoolwath
09-09-2005, 01:57 PM
There! In your "face"! :huh:
Thats for makin fun of Slovak orphans...
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