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Northwind
02-01-2005, 12:37 PM
I don’t usually post in the General Strategy forum, but I recently came across a strategy that, if used properly, will guarantee you a win each and every time. I felt that it would be selfish to keep this to myself, so I am sharing it with all of you. It is a bit complicated, but can result in a guaranteed win. Please don’t share this with others outside of this forum, as it could wreak havoc among the servers if word of this got out. I have used this strategy countless times and, when I do it right, it has always resulted in a win for me.

Anyway, the strategy is as follows: (and by the way, this works equally well for gold and gray games, even gray versus gold)

1) Use whatever combination of your units that you are most comfortable with. I generally use just the default gray units, swapping out my pyros for a LW and a BW.
2) Using your units, attack your opponents in order to get rid of their units. Try to reduce their life points to zero – this way, their units will go away and you won’t have to deal with them any more.
3) Think offensively and defensively. It is all about trying to kill your opponents’ units while keeping yours alive.
4) If necessary, use your cleric to heal the damage done to your units.
5) This is the all-important step. Using attacks from your units, make sure to kill _all_ of their movable units before they kill all of yours. If you do this correctly, you will win every single time. It is crucial that you kill all of them, however, as leaving even one of their movable units on the field can offer them the opportunity for a win.

There, the information is out there and I can’t do anything more about it. REMEMBER, DO NOT GIVE THIS INFORMATION TO ANYONE OUTSIDE OF THE FORUMS. In this way, those who read the forums will have an edge. Enjoy.

Office_Shredder
02-01-2005, 12:44 PM
Woah... so wait.... you're saying if I use that pyro I've always wanted instead of a cleric on the front line.... oh my god!

And attacking opponent's units? Does that really work all the time? I heard its better to kill your own cleric so you get a drop first...

Personally, I'm a bit dubious... I'll have to try it out in a game

Wolfman
02-01-2005, 12:55 PM
wow.. the best strategy i hv read lately.... :P

thx northwind

wolfy

Office_Shredder
02-01-2005, 12:59 PM
Ok ok ok..... you gotta help me out here fast northy.

I'm in a game on army.... this guy has a cleric at full health.... I have a witch at 6 health.... should I heal or attack???? I'm thinking maybe I should just ignore the problem and it will go away

I only have 10 more seconds in my turn! Answer fast plz!

Northwind
02-01-2005, 01:03 PM
It's OK, OS.

Breathe deeply. I won't give you specific advice here, other than to say that it is important to kill all of your opponents units before he kills yours. Do whatever you have to do to make sure that happens.

Office_Shredder
02-01-2005, 01:06 PM
So.... I should move up my cleric to force his LW so my knights can get through unharmed?

The cleric can't kill anything..... so it's no good, right?

BlackSyphon
02-01-2005, 03:32 PM
for a minute, I thought someone hacked northwinds forum account...

du

zzzaacckk
02-01-2005, 04:15 PM
Amazing strategy!!! I have never figured that out before!!!

da1n
02-01-2005, 05:01 PM
Thanks for the tips mate :cool:

PhillySoul29
02-01-2005, 05:57 PM
lol this is exactly like our clans forums ive never seen something this.... out there though lol

Iceage Heatwave
02-01-2005, 07:35 PM
That mite actually help somoene if they had only played a few games.

ent__89
02-01-2005, 07:36 PM
I personally dont think this strategy will work, really how on earth will killing their movable units help me at all?
What do you mean by using the cleric too heal? I say use the devestating cleric rush!

Liquid Swordsman
02-01-2005, 08:45 PM
D00d this t0tally pwns! N0w I d0n't have to h0x0r for my 1337 stats!

TheBlazedAce
02-02-2005, 01:29 PM
I personally dont think this strategy will work, really how on earth will killing their movable units help me at all?
What do you mean by using the cleric too heal? I say use the devestating cleric rush!

Or the incredibly potent attack the LW with melee units rush while shooting it from afar.

The Prophet
02-02-2005, 01:43 PM
OMG! It works I won 3 games today by killing all the opponents units before he killed mine.

NW call the patent office, now!

Office_Shredder
02-02-2005, 01:48 PM
Too late! I stole credit for it already!
Huhhahahahahahahaha!

Cuathon
02-02-2005, 03:53 PM
hah office. i Already stole it. as soon as he posted it.

ck1
02-02-2005, 04:12 PM
Im stuck! All I have left is my witch person! I just shot the guys big ligtning thingy, and now I cant move my witch!!!!!111 HElp!!!

monkus
02-02-2005, 05:15 PM
I don't get the strategy. It's just too difficult for me to understand :(

gryph89
02-02-2005, 05:25 PM
I don't get the strategy. It's just too difficult for me to understand :(
*scratching head* same here,whats the catch?

ent__89
02-02-2005, 06:55 PM
i dont get it either, whenever i try it i always lose, maybe its just to complex for me...

sub the hendrix
02-02-2005, 10:13 PM
OK, now that everyone has gotten the sarcasm out of their system, can we, um talk about something relevant? Oh... wait.... cant resist the urge to make stupid cynical comment.... darn here goes:
This strategy is far to straightforward for MY tastes, I prefer to use reverse psychology by attacking my own units, real players are much more original than this.

Iceage Heatwave
02-02-2005, 10:20 PM
You should have used that when you slaughtered me :D

Northwind
02-02-2005, 10:25 PM
Cynical? Sarcastic? I try to let others in on my secret discovery and this is the thanks I get! This isn't some kind of joke, people. This is a legitimate strategy to win _every_ game that you play. It's not my fault if it goes over some of your heads.

I stand by my statement -- kill every one of their movable units before they kill yours and YOU WILL WIN! Every single time, guaranteed. I would suggest that this thread be stickied, but I don't think I want this kind of strategic power to be too well disseminated throughout the game. I mean, imagine if everyone who played knew this trick and tried to do this. Chaos!

Iceage Heatwave
02-02-2005, 10:27 PM
There are some noobs who have this strage Idea that my LW is worth 2 movable units.

Office_Shredder
02-03-2005, 05:58 AM
icecage.... that's brilliant... don't sacrifice my knight to try to hit the lightning ward!

Besides, the blocking is all messed up... I haven't landed a hit yet....

ent__89
02-03-2005, 06:50 PM
Cynical? Sarcastic? I try to let others in on my secret discovery and this is the thanks I get! This isn't some kind of joke, people. This is a legitimate strategy to win _every_ game that you play. It's not my fault if it goes over some of your heads.

I stand by my statement -- kill every one of their movable units before they kill yours and YOU WILL WIN! Every single time, guaranteed. I would suggest that this thread be stickied, but I don't think I want this kind of strategic power to be too well disseminated throughout the game. I mean, imagine if everyone who played knew this trick and tried to do this. Chaos!
The point is NW, that what you have discribed is not a strategy, but rather the point of the game....Killing all their movable units IS the goal that you try to reach in any serios game of TAO, even n00bs know enough to kill the oponents units......the only exception to killing all their units is to freeze them(or only some/one).

Iceage Heatwave
02-03-2005, 07:01 PM
Actually teh noobs don't know that.

Northwind
02-04-2005, 12:08 PM
The point is NW, that what you have discribed is not a strategy, but rather the point of the game....Killing all their movable units IS the goal that you try to reach in any serios game of TAO, even n00bs know enough to kill the oponents units......the only exception to killing all their units is to freeze them(or only some/one).
Oh yeah ent?

Well, if this is true, then why did the Prophet tell me I should patent my idea?

Boo yah!

However, you do bring up a good point about the freezing. Once I add this to my strategy, it will be truly unstoppable!

Office_Shredder
02-04-2005, 12:10 PM
This means the enchantress is the most powerful unit in the game!

Capable of winning it on turn one... NO other unit can do that

Bottle
02-04-2005, 02:00 PM
Except the Dragon or Witch, which can kill a person with only a cleric on turn 1 :)

Northy... is this strategy really immune to foil attacks?

BlackSyphon
02-04-2005, 03:08 PM
what happens if I press the off button on my comp? Will I still win?

du

Tactics†Assassi
01-26-2006, 01:19 PM
I dont Get it didnt you always have too kill or The units of you enamy too win The Game Thats Nothing New Kill All Of His Before He kills All Yours!!!!! ?_?

Tactics†Assassi
01-26-2006, 01:36 PM
lol

Bottle
01-26-2006, 01:38 PM
Maybe posting a link in the other thread wasn't such a great idea after all, Northy.

TA, I'll give you some advice right now. Stop posting. You're making yourself look like a complete and utter idiot.

Realist
01-26-2006, 02:47 PM
I stand by my statement -- kill every one of their movable units before they kill yours and YOU WILL WIN! Every single time, guaranteed.

I found a flaw in your supposedly "perfect" strategy. :rolleyes: If I pyro burn my own last pyro at the same time as my opponent's last unit, and they both get killed on the same turn, even if theirs dies first, it still counts as a draw. :\

You are a failure, Northwind.

*ace*
01-26-2006, 02:49 PM
No strategy is foolproff.

Bottle
01-26-2006, 03:01 PM
I found a flaw in your supposedly "perfect" strategy. :rolleyes: If I pyro burn my own last pyro at the same time as my opponent's last unit, and they both get killed on the same turn, even if theirs dies first, it still counts as a draw. :\

You are a failure, Northwind.
Oh no! How will Northwind reply to this slanderous accusation that his strategy is not foilproof?

CHIPZ
01-26-2006, 05:12 PM
Except the Dragon or Witch, which can kill a person with only a cleric on turn 1 :)

Northy... is this strategy really immune to foil attacks?

there alot of em with only.. a cleric lol
and realist is funny...ha ha ha

and flaw number 2 you forgot your brain.

Northwind
01-26-2006, 05:20 PM
I found a flaw in your supposedly "perfect" strategy. :rolleyes: If I pyro burn my own last pyro at the same time as my opponent's last unit, and they both get killed on the same turn, even if theirs dies first, it still counts as a draw. :\

Your life's mission is complete, Northwind.
Thank you Realist for putting the finishing touch on my "foilproof" (Shut up Bottle or I will tear the arteries out of your neck with a paperclip! :) ) plan. As you are clearly aware, there is a common statement regarding the "exception that proves the rule." You have cleverly provided me with the oh-so-necessary exception to give my strategy the final proof it needs to make it official.

I owe you a debt of gratitude for your generosity and kindhearted support of my foilproof plan.

AlL HaIl The pErFecT stRateGy! (I did the capitalization like that so Tactics Assassi could understand it.)

Bottle
01-26-2006, 05:29 PM
Actually, the expression "the exception proves the rule" does NOT mean that it proves the rule is TRUE. In mathematical terms, from which the expression was derived, "proving" a theorem means finding out whether it is true or not; saying something is proved gives no information about whether it was proved to be true or proved to be false.

(Just thought I'd throw that one out, because being a bit of a masochist, I like the sound of having my arteries torn out of my neck by a paperclip.)

CHIPZ
01-26-2006, 05:31 PM
ALL HAIL THE UNPERFECT STRATEGIE

ok bottles ... strange

Bottle
01-26-2006, 05:44 PM
Hmm... I don't like you. So go away.

Northwind
01-26-2006, 05:45 PM
Actually, the expression "the exception proves the rule" does NOT mean that it proves the rule is TRUE. In mathematical terms, from which the expression was derived, "proving" a theorem means finding out whether it is true or not; saying something is proved gives no information about whether it was proved to be true or proved to be false.
You realize that you're just making things worse for yourself?(Just thought I'd throw that one out, because being a bit of a masochist, I like the sound of having my arteries torn out of my neck by a paperclip.)
Ohhhh. You like that sort of thing.

*gets out whip* :bop: :moil: :aggress: :*dwarf: :gun: :tommy: :*orc: :flirt: (oops, how'd that last one get in there?)

CHIPZ
01-26-2006, 05:50 PM
Hmm... I don't like you. So go away.

arg you are a band like bottle. northwind funy funy but relist cant be toped .:confused: :rolleyes:

Match Strike
02-04-2006, 05:29 PM
I found a flaw in your supposedly "perfect" strategy. :rolleyes: If I pyro burn my own last pyro at the same time as my opponent's last unit, and they both get killed on the same turn, even if theirs dies first, it still counts as a draw. :\

You are a failure, Northwind.
That's like when monkus goes around challenging people to assassin vs. assassin duels.:rolleyes:

DOCTOR DEVICE
02-04-2006, 08:42 PM
Does this really work? I find it very useful using the assasin bomb to blow up a few of your own units. I'll test it on clanny's first, but don't expect me to use it, i find it FAR too complicated.

Thanks anways,
DD

Match Strike
02-04-2006, 08:54 PM
Does this really work? I find it very useful using the assasin bomb to blow up a few of your own units. I'll test it on clanny's first, but don't expect me to use it, i find it FAR too complicated.

Thanks anways,
DD
'bout 11 months late buddy.

Office_Shredder
02-04-2006, 11:14 PM
I found a flaw in your supposedly "perfect" strategy. :rolleyes: If I pyro burn my own last pyro at the same time as my opponent's last unit, and they both get killed on the same turn, even if theirs dies first, it still counts as a draw. :\

You are a failure, Northwind.

The only flaw here is that everyone knows pyromancers are never used

The Hand
02-05-2006, 10:29 AM
Yes, Pyros are never used. Unless your new to this game and you use them because you think they look cool :)

Hoolwath
02-05-2006, 12:06 PM
I use a pyro, Real uses a pyro.

The best greys use pyros. You don't use pyros if you are not a good grey.

:cool:

Bottle
02-05-2006, 12:07 PM
*cough*

Office_Shredder
02-05-2006, 12:43 PM
I use a pyro, Real uses a pyro.

I'm sorry... I thought we were talking about people who win games

Hoolwath
02-05-2006, 12:56 PM
The only flaw here is that everyone knows pyromancers are never used

This is your only post in this thread for the last 10 months.

"I'm sorry... I thought we were talking about people who win games"

You did not even mention it, therefor we were not talking about them.

Match Strike
02-05-2006, 01:21 PM
I use pyros sometimes. Speaking of which, Real, is my Pyro review MIA or what at this point?

Office_Shredder
02-05-2006, 01:27 PM
This is your only post in this thread for the last 10 months.

"I'm sorry... I thought we were talking about people who win games"

You did not even mention it, therefor we were not talking about them.

We're talking about foilproof strategies... therefore pyros don't enter the discussion

Bottle
02-05-2006, 01:30 PM
I don't know, I think pyros would probably not be very effective against foil.

Hoolwath
02-05-2006, 01:40 PM
You guys simply do not know what you are talking about. Pyromancer's middle name is foilproof.

Office_Shredder
02-05-2006, 01:44 PM
You guys simply do not know what you are talking about. Pyromancer's middle name is foilproof.

And in this corner: Leroy "The Foilproof pyromancer" JEEEEEEENKIIIIIIIINSSSSS!

***Duo***
02-05-2006, 02:00 PM
Dear Northwind,

I tried your strategy, and must inquire my money back.
I used this to perfection, killing all mobile units of the enemy, but did not win. I drew.

In the end, I had just my Assassin. I used it to kill his 2 remaining mobile units. I should have won, because I killed all of his units before he killed mine.


-Duo