All you single boys, some girl advice (You should not read this if you are under 13.)

[Swartzstrom]

Guys, you complain, you talk, you check women out, you ask them out, but when the date comes, you let the women do everything. Here's a little bit of advice for all you guys out there:

Stand on your feet, and be a man. Period.

Everytime you ask a young women out for the first time, you probably say, "Hey, what are you doing Friday night? Want to go see that new movie at The Apollo?"

Movies? That's so old it's tiring. If you want to actually have a girl worth the effort of being with, do something classy. Take her out for dinner. At a nice resteraunt, not some stupid fast-food chain. Take her to your house and watch a nice movie that you both agree on. Take her and chill with a friend and his/her boyfriend/girlfriend on a double date. Use proper language, talk about something you can both contribute to. You want to leave a good lasting impression, not some impression that you're some moron who doesn't know what class is. You must take charge. You must bring up ideas for dates. You must make sure that she agrees. You must schedule and plan the dates. Don't be lazy.

If you're lost for things to say, talk about her not in a bad way, but find out things about her. Ask her what her interests are. Ask her what she wants to be in life. Find out things about the young woman that you are dating. Don't find out things to fast, however. Try to make sure that you can find out something new about your girlfriend every week. You don't want to find out everything about you girlfriend. Almost every guy has had that one girlfriend who drones on and on about her; you find out just about everything about her, so there's no chase involved. You'd want a woman that is mysterious, not open to everything; what I mean is, you don't want a woman who you know everything about.

Okay, guys will have intercourse with a young woman and when asked about it, they say, "I dunno, it just sort of happened." THIS IS NOT AN EXCUSE! You are responsible for your own actions. Which means that you cannot blame it on someone else for what happened. If the girl you are doing this with is not comfortable with this and/or says 'no', then it is your responsibility to stop. No excuses, no, 'if', 'ands', or, 'buts' about it. You have no choice, at least, not a choice if you don't want to go to prison.

Now, for you High School young men and women. I have one sentence that pretty much sums up almost all High School relationships:
A High School Relationship will not last. Don't believe me? Then here are some facts:
Out of 100 men and women surveyed (that's 50 men and 50 women), 22 of them said that they married their High School sweethearts. Sweet, huh? Check this out, out of those 22 people, 17 got divorced. 17. That means 5 out of every 100 high school couples will get married and stay married. Not to say that High School relationships are completely useless. High School relationships will actually make you a better man for your future wife. But when you say it to a young woman's face, what happens? SMACK! Ahh, my grill hurts!

All in all, guys, you'd really wanna take it slow for a woman, don't do anything stupid, keep it real, don't cheat, and don't be a total asshole.

[dirka dirka]

Damn thats long. Nice. Reading it now.

[TheBlazedAce]

May I ask, Swartz, what event spurred this topic?

[Swartzstrom]

May I ask, Swartz, what event spurred this topic?

I was bored.

[theburning]

Now, for you High School young men and women. I have one sentence that pretty much sums up almost all High School relationships:
A High School Relationship will not last. D


I think you should just change that to 'Any relationship will not last.'

Because I'm pretty sure that the rate of divorces is pretty high regardless of when the two met.

Also, it's becoming more common for high school lovers to get back together in their later years (after they're divorced etc.)

[dirka dirka]

Ya know, thats weird. Most of the chicks I go out with I ask them decide where we go, and almost everytime they want to go to the movies... I dunno, maybe our movies are more special, or maybe thats just what comes to mind first...

[TheBlazedAce]

Ya know, thats weird. Most of the chicks I go out with I ask them decide where we go, and almost everytime they want to go to the movies... I dunno, maybe our movies are more special, or maybe thats just what comes to mind first...

Or maybe the chicks you date have, dare I say it, less good ideas then you do.

[Swartzstrom]

Ya know, thats weird. Most of the chicks I go out with I ask them decide where we go, and almost everytime they want to go to the movies... I dunno, maybe our movies are more special, or maybe thats just what comes to mind first...

That's why you're the man dude! Take them somewhere nice, classy.

[Network]

This should help out Cavour. ;) *Hehe did he see this?*

[dirka dirka]

Lol, are you implying they are dumb? Cause they arn't.

[dirka dirka]

That's why you're the man dude! Take them somewhere nice, classy.

I dunno, I don't like to decide, unless they ask me to. It seems like I'm being arrogant, or something. Alot of the time, after the movies, I ask if I can go to their house ;-) Never been denied.

[Swartzstrom]

This should help out Cavour. ;) *Hehe did he see this?*

Hmm...I'm not sure. I'll PM the link to him. :D

[Chaosti]

tho if you think about it, going to the movies is a pretty lame date. you're either a) watching the movie, in which case you are not paying attention to your date or b) you are "paying attention to your date," in which case you paid money to turn the lights off.

[dirka dirka]

tho if you think about it, going to the movies is a pretty lame date. you're either a) watching the movie, in which case you are not paying attention to your date or b) you are "paying attention to your date," in which case you paid money to turn the lights off.

b more then often, I dunno. I'll try her theorys next time, see what happens.

[Swartzstrom]

b more then often, I dunno. I'll try her theorys next time, see what happens.

I'm a guy.

[dirka dirka]

I'm a guy.
I know this, dunno what I was thinking when I typed that.

[Swartzstrom]

I know this, dunno what I was thinking when I typed that.

*Shakes his head* :cool:

[swordking35]

Thanks for the info even though it was way to long :D

[Swartzstrom]

Thanks for the info even though it was way to long :D

You're welcome. :D

[FryLock]

I dunno how old you are, Swartz...some of this makes sense, some of it is total bunk.

I'm only 23, not that old, but I've found that while girls may like you to "be the man" and plan everything, they also really like it when you ask them their opinions. This isn't some archetypal feudal society where the guy just does everything and the girl comes along.

"It's up to the guy to plan everything and make sure she agrees"? Er...maybe in some circumstances, but I've found this answer to be a resounding NO.

I would much prefer to date a girl who has some ideas of her own and can make plans herself. Sure, I have no problem figuring out something to do (by the way, bowling or mini golf is a great alternative date idea) but I prefer a girl who can come up with some things, too. If it's always up to me, I'm going to feel like I'm not dating an equal.

My 2 cents - treat her (respect is perhaps a better word) as you would yourself. Don't assume she'll go along with what you plan. Do assume that she is a person with ideas and desires of her own, and encourage her to share that.

I suppose that only applies to those who want an equal...I know plenty of guys who prefer to date an empty-headed bimbo...

[arendt]

I've found the opposite to be true. If you're young, you won't be fooling anyone by doing "classy" things. You more than likely can't afford anything all that classy anyway. Instead, admit that the symphony and formal wear aren't your thing (unless, you're like me and they actually are - in which case matinees rock) and instead do something that you and your date might actually enjoy. Stupid things, or things you did when you were a kid are fantastic. For instance, the following have worked out great for me: going cardboard sliding down the hills out in suburbia (flattened cardboard box, perilous hill, giggling, laughter, fun, broken bones), going to the exploratorium (http://cams.exploratorium.edu/CAM1/index.html), going ice-skating (note only fun if one or neither of you know how), you get the idea.

FYI: movies are good especially if you don't know the person all that well and conversation would be strained and awkward.

[thefreezing]

Word. :cool:

EDIT: To Fry's 2 cents.

[TheBlazedAce]

I've found the opposite to be true. If you're young, you won't be fooling anyone by doing "classy" things. You more than likely can't afford anything all that classy anyway. Instead, admit that the symphony and formal wear aren't your thing (unless, you're like me and they actually are - in which case matinees rock) and instead do something that you and your date might actually enjoy. Stupid things, or things you did when you were a kid are fantastic. For instance, the following have worked out great for me: going cardboard sliding down the hills out in suburbia (flattened cardboard box, perilous hill, giggling, laughter, fun, broken bones), going to the exploratorium (http://cams.exploratorium.edu/CAM1/index.html), going ice-skating (note only fun if one or neither of you know how), you get the idea.

FYI: movies are good especially if you don't know the person all that well and conversation would be strained and awkward.

If conversation is "strained and awkward" when you first meet them what kind of future can you expect to have with this person?

[.Vash.]

Nag, I got my girl becuse I got skills. :cool:

[arendt]

Almost by definition first dates involve awkwardness and strained (ie straining to say something witty or interesting) conversation. If you're not at least a little nervous, you're medicated.

[Swartzstrom]

I dunno how old you are, Swartz...some of this makes sense, some of it is total bunk.

I'm only 23, not that old, but I've found that while girls may like you to "be the man" and plan everything, they also really like it when you ask them their opinions. This isn't some archetypal feudal society where the guy just does everything and the girl comes along.

"It's up to the guy to plan everything and make sure she agrees"? Er...maybe in some circumstances, but I've found this answer to be a resounding NO.

I would much prefer to date a girl who has some ideas of her own and can make plans herself. Sure, I have no problem figuring out something to do (by the way, bowling or mini golf is a great alternative date idea) but I prefer a girl who can come up with some things, too. If it's always up to me, I'm going to feel like I'm not dating an equal.

My 2 cents - treat her (respect is perhaps a better word) as you would yourself. Don't assume she'll go along with what you plan. Do assume that she is a person with ideas and desires of her own, and encourage her to share that.

I suppose that only applies to those who want an equal...I know plenty of guys who prefer to date an empty-headed bimbo...

I completely agree. You'd want the girl to make some decisions, but not for you to be dependent on that young woman to make decisions on what to do.

[TheBlazedAce]

Almost by definition first dates involve awkwardness and strained (ie straining to say something witty or interesting) conversation. If you're not at least a little nervous, you're medicated.

How old are you? We're not talking about having the first date of your entire life, we're just talking about having a first date with someone. You don't need to be medicated to have some confidence and be able to hold a reasonable conversation.

[Swartzstrom]

How old are you? We're not talking about having the first date of your entire life, we're just talking about having a first date with someone. You don't need to be medicated to have some confidence and be able to hold a reasonable conversation.

I love it how BlazedAce comes into a random conversation and automatically knows what everybody is talking about.

By the way? Have I ever properly introduced myself to you, Blazed? I'm Swartzstrom.
*Holds out hand for Blazed to shake*

[TheBlazedAce]

I love it how BlazedAce comes into a random conversation and automatically knows what everybody is talking about.

By the way? Have I ever properly introduced myself to you, Blazed? I'm Swartzstrom.
*Holds out hand for Blazed to shake*
This might seem impossible for you to comprehend. It's a big secret and I don't think many people even know how to do it anymore. *whispers* I read the entire thread before I post in it. (of course if it's too long I only read the last few pages)

"How rude of me. Blazedace, at your service" *puts out hand and shakes swartz's hand with vigor*

[Swartzstrom]

This might seem impossible for you to comprehend. It's a big secret and I don't think many people even know how to do it anymore. *whispers* I read the entire thread before I post in it. (of course if it's too long I only read the last few pages)

"How rude of me. Blazedace, at your service" *puts out hand and shakes swartz's hand with vigor*

*Relinquishes hand shake, and gives Blazed another hand shake, Jaffa-style*

[dirka dirka]

I got a question for ya, Swartzstrom you got a girl?

Why do you think you're the one to give us this advice?

[Swartzstrom]

I got a question for ya, Swartzstrom you got a girl?

Why do you think you're the one to give us this advice?

Not at the moment. I just broke up with a girl because she was moving away. I've been with her nearing 4 years. I'm 16 years old, in case you want to know.

[Warcow]

Guys, you complain, you talk, you check women out, you ask them out, but when the date comes, you let the women do everything. Here's a little bit of advice for all you guys out there:

Stand on your feet, and be a man. Period.

Everytime you ask a young women out for the first time, you probably say, "Hey, what are you doing Friday night? Want to go see that new movie at The Apollo?"

Movies? That's so old it's tiring. If you want to actually have a girl worth the effort of being with, do something classy. Take her out for dinner. At a nice resteraunt, not some stupid fast-food chain. Take her to your house and watch a nice movie that you both agree on. Take her and chill with a friend and his/her boyfriend/girlfriend on a double date. Use proper language, talk about something you can both contribute to. You want to leave a good lasting impression, not some impression that you're some moron who doesn't know what class is. You must take charge. You must bring up ideas for dates. You must make sure that she agrees. You must schedule and plan the dates. Don't be lazy.

If you're lost for things to say, talk about her not in a bad way, but find out things about her. Ask her what her interests are. Ask her what she wants to be in life. Find out things about the young woman that you are dating. Don't find out things to fast, however. Try to make sure that you can find out something new about your girlfriend every week. You don't want to find out everything about you girlfriend. Almost every guy has had that one girlfriend who drones on and on about her; you find out just about everything about her, so there's no chase involved. You'd want a woman that is mysterious, not open to everything; what I mean is, you don't want a woman who you know everything about.

Okay, guys will have intercourse with a young woman and when asked about it, they say, "I dunno, it just sort of happened." THIS IS NOT AN EXCUSE! You are responsible for your own actions. Which means that you cannot blame it on someone else for what happened. If the girl you are doing this with is not comfortable with this and/or says 'no', then it is your responsibility to stop. No excuses, no, 'if', 'ands', or, 'buts' about it. You have no choice, at least, not a choice if you don't want to go to prison.

Now, for you High School young men and women. I have one sentence that pretty much sums up almost all High School relationships:
A High School Relationship will not last. Don't believe me? Then here are some facts:
Out of 100 men and women surveyed (that's 50 men and 50 women), 22 of them said that they married their High School sweethearts. Sweet, huh? Check this out, out of those 22 people, 17 got divorced. 17. That means 5 out of every 100 high school couples will get married and stay married. Not to say that High School relationships are completely useless. High School relationships will actually make you a better man for your future wife. But when you say it to a young woman's face, what happens? SMACK! Ahh, my grill hurts!

All in all, guys, you'd really wanna take it slow for a woman, don't do anything stupid, keep it real, don't cheat, and don't be a total asshole.

This is 100% situational, you can't simply apply a label to how every girl wants to be treated, or how ever guy is going to act. It depends on the girls personality, what kind of girl you are fishing for, your personality etc. To try and give someone dating tips, beyond the simple things like don't whip it out when you meet her, when you don't know them, or the girl they are looking for, is foolish.

[dirka dirka]

Not at the moment. I just broke up with a girl because she was moving away. I've been with her nearing 4 years. I'm 16 years old, in case you want to know.

ROFL, then you don't know! You cave us shit like first date advice, 4 years is already to the point where it almost doesn't matter, I would hope...

[nads]

Someplace nice and classy? That would imply your date is nice and classy. Booooooring... I wanted a woman who was as loud, obnoxious, and trashy as me. Then I met a classy one who put up with the loud obnoxious trashy me, and I married her. And yes, she will hold my spit cup for me, but she gets this disgusted look on her face when I ask her to.

[Swartzstrom]

This is 100% situational, you can't simply apply a label to how every girl wants to be treated, or how ever guy is going to act. It depends on the girls personality, what kind of girl you are fishing for, your personality etc. To try and give someone dating tips, beyond the simple things like don't whip it out when you meet her, when you don't know them, or the girl they are looking for, is foolish.

This whole thread would imply to a man looking for a serious relationship.

[dirka dirka]

ROFL, then you don't know! You cave us shit like first date advice, 4 years is already to the point where it almost doesn't matter, I would hope...
However you are not the one to give this advice. Threw my experience you are indeed wrong.

[Warcow]

This whole thread would imply to a man looking for a serious relationship.

So? Who are you to define a serious relationship? Not everyone looking for a serious relationship is looking for the same things. All these kind of things are going to depend on the girl. What sweeps one off her feet might get you a backhand from another.

[S_K_O_F]

honestly, in my experience

every different girl wants a guy to be a little different

the best advice i have ever gotten about girls...was about myself

I was told, "Just be yourself! Girls really don't like guys to be fake. If a girl doesn't like you for you, then move on to the next. You will eventually find one who can't resist you."

[Chaosti]

I'm not sure why we all think that we know something about girls. I, for one, will admit that all I know about girls is that I know nothing about girls. And I am 19 and have been in a couple relationships. In fact, I have come to the conclusion that it is for the best for a guy to start every conversation with "I'm sorry." Nevermind if you don't know what you did or even if you actually did something wrong. Or instantly concede defeat to any argument because YOU are wrong. Doesn't matter if you are actually right because you are really wrong. (O and as long as we are well above the kiddie age here, girls will very much appreciate it if you randomly give them a nice back rub. and many really really like it if you rub the earlobes just right, that may sound a little strange but it works. ;) )

[psychofireman]

Sure, I have no problem figuring out something to do (by the way, bowling or mini golf is a great alternative date idea) .

Bowling is an awsome first date, I took a leagaly blind chick bolwing on our first date, and although it was funny...after the 3rd frame the kids bumpers came up for her... it provides a relaxed atmosphere to losen the girl up and if there's always beer there..... well anyways it is alot of fun

[wolf rayne {D}]

Guys, you complain, you talk, you check women out, you ask them out, but when the date comes, you let the women do everything. Here's a little bit of advice for all you guys out there:

Stand on your feet, and be a man. Period.

Everytime you ask a young women out for the first time, you probably say, "Hey, what are you doing Friday night? Want to go see that new movie at The Apollo?"

Movies? That's so old it's tiring. If you want to actually have a girl worth the effort of being with, do something classy. Take her out for dinner. At a nice resteraunt, not some stupid fast-food chain. Take her to your house and watch a nice movie that you both agree on. Take her and chill with a friend and his/her boyfriend/girlfriend on a double date. Use proper language, talk about something you can both contribute to. You want to leave a good lasting impression, not some impression that you're some moron who doesn't know what class is. You must take charge. You must bring up ideas for dates. You must make sure that she agrees. You must schedule and plan the dates. Don't be lazy.

If you're lost for things to say, talk about her not in a bad way, but find out things about her. Ask her what her interests are. Ask her what she wants to be in life. Find out things about the young woman that you are dating. Don't find out things to fast, however. Try to make sure that you can find out something new about your girlfriend every week. You don't want to find out everything about you girlfriend. Almost every guy has had that one girlfriend who drones on and on about her; you find out just about everything about her, so there's no chase involved. You'd want a woman that is mysterious, not open to everything; what I mean is, you don't want a woman who you know everything about.

Okay, guys will have intercourse with a young woman and when asked about it, they say, "I dunno, it just sort of happened." THIS IS NOT AN EXCUSE! You are responsible for your own actions. Which means that you cannot blame it on someone else for what happened. If the girl you are doing this with is not comfortable with this and/or says 'no', then it is your responsibility to stop. No excuses, no, 'if', 'ands', or, 'buts' about it. You have no choice, at least, not a choice if you don't want to go to prison.

Now, for you High School young men and women. I have one sentence that pretty much sums up almost all High School relationships:
A High School Relationship will not last. Don't believe me? Then here are some facts:
Out of 100 men and women surveyed (that's 50 men and 50 women), 22 of them said that they married their High School sweethearts. Sweet, huh? Check this out, out of those 22 people, 17 got divorced. 17. That means 5 out of every 100 high school couples will get married and stay married. Not to say that High School relationships are completely useless. High School relationships will actually make you a better man for your future wife. But when you say it to a young woman's face, what happens? SMACK! Ahh, my grill hurts!

All in all, guys, you'd really wanna take it slow for a woman, don't do anything stupid, keep it real, don't cheat, and don't be a total asshole.
amazing.
what if you dont have a car, my dad would refuse to drive me around...
and not every woman wants to be treated the same... im 12 and i know this.
maybe i should read all the posts before complaining, but still....
:P

[S_K_O_F]

I'm not sure why we all think that we know something about girls. I, for one, will admit that all I know about girls is that I know nothing about girls. And I am 19 and have been in a couple relationships. In fact, I have come to the conclusion that it is for the best for a guy to start every conversation with "I'm sorry." Nevermind if you don't know what you did or even if you actually did something wrong. Or instantly concede defeat to any argument because YOU are wrong. Doesn't matter if you are actually right because you are really wrong. (O and as long as we are well above the kiddie age here, girls will very much appreciate it if you randomly give them a nice back rub. and many really really like it if you rub the earlobes just right, that may sound a little strange but it works. ;) )

you hear that girls...if you want a man you can control

^here he is^

[Medemia]

The one thing I think I learned about girls while I was still dating was that they are looking to be treated as human beings and not put on a pedistool. They are people. You shouldn't have to be nervous. I am going to agree with Blazedaces: If you can't talk to them like normal people, what kind of relationship are you going to have? There was one girl that I walked home from school, about a mile and a half. I was so nervous, I only spoke to her when she asked me a question. It was weird. We ended up breaking up and the pressure of impressing her was gone. I was again able to talk to her. After a while, she asked me out. They are just looking for someone who is going to talk to them.

Be yourself; talk like yourself; don't be fake. If you are classy and deboinaire, be classy. If you are nads, be a redneck. Just talk when it's appropiate in a normal manner. She's just as nervous as you are, so don't be.

[Swartzstrom]

amazing.
what if you dont have a car, my dad would refuse to drive me around...
and not every woman wants to be treated the same... im 12 and i know this.
maybe i should read all the posts before complaining, but still....
:P

Then do whatever it is that you can do. If your girlfriend cannot accept that you will not be able to do certain things for her, I don't know why you would be going out with her in the first place.


Warcow, have you ever had the type of girl that tells you everything? I mean everything about her?

If so, you begin to lose interest in her, correct?

[Chaosti]

amazing.
what if you dont have a car, my dad would refuse to drive me around...
and not every woman wants to be treated the same... im 12 and i know this.
maybe i should read all the posts before complaining, but still....
:P

dude.....you're 12 what the hell are you doing dating anyways?

you hear that girls...if you want a man you can control

^here he is^

The best battles won are the one's not fought. I'd rather not get into a trivial argument that will end in futility. Oh, I thought of another dating tip. Girls do notice if small acts of politeness. Things like holding the door open, not just for her but for other people too.

[Swartzstrom]

The problem is that all guys seek one thing in return for all that niceness: A Physical Payoff. It could be a hug, a kiss, holding hands. All guys seek a physical payoff. There is no argument. It's pure fact. Anybody that tries to argue with this will be utterly disappointed when they lose.

[dirka dirka]

The problem is that all guys seek one thing in return for all that niceness: A Physical Payoff.

Yo, thats not even cool. Maybe your efforts are seeded in this goal, however mine(meaning not *all* guys) are seeded in having a relationship. I don't seek that, however it does happen. Its not like, okay, 3 days and it'll happen or no go, next chick...

[roamingstorm]

thats vrey insightful thank you, and another piece of advice to other guys, never go on and on about your hobbies, if they ask its ok, but dont go, hey have you ever heard of this cool online game called tactics arena online, i mean you have scouts and nights and magicians and witches and healers, you should get into it....... if you do that its going to be over pretty quick

[dirka dirka]

thats vrey insightful thank you, and another piece of advice to other guys, never go on and on about your hobbies, if they ask its ok, but dont go, hey have you ever heard of this cool online game called tactics arena online, i mean you have scouts and nights and magicians and witches and healers, you should get into it....... if you do that its going to be over pretty quick

thats also horrible advice...

i ride quads, a few of the chicks i've gone out with do also, we talked about it... we've even went riding togather...

[roamingstorm]

well its a hobby you both share, if she isnt interested, or acts like she does, shes going to get bored fast

[Bottle]

Is it just me, or is it weird that Chaosti has started posting again? :confused:

[Amaroth]

Take her out for dinner.

What if she's allergic to eating?

[T3km4n]

The Male Chouvanists(sp?) clash with the pussies in an everended war with Ach mocking them all along.

[Amaroth]

:cool:

[BlackSyphon]

The Male Chouvanists(sp?) clash with the pussies in an everended war with Ach mocking them all along.

your back!

du

[T3km4n]

Not really, just very bored.

[Chaosti]

Is it just me, or is it weird that Chaosti has started posting again? :confused:

why weird? and why again? i don't think i posted that much to begin with. unless you are talking about the original Chaosti. I took over about Feb '04. In any case, I just decided to be a little more forum active since The Elite waiting to bounce back.

[roody poo]

I think you should just change that to 'Any relationship will not last.'

Because I'm pretty sure that the rate of divorces is pretty high regardless of when the two met.

Also, it's becoming more common for high school lovers to get back together in their later years (after they're divorced etc.)

Agreed.

[roody poo]

The problem is that all guys seek one thing in return for all that niceness: A Physical Payoff. It could be a hug, a kiss, holding hands. All guys seek a physical payoff. There is no argument. It's pure fact. Anybody that tries to argue with this will be utterly disappointed when they lose.

All guys? Wrong.

Sorry, but I must be the exception because at this point in life I would rather get a girl's emotional attention. I've proved to myself that I can pull tail if that's all I want. What I really want in return is to grab the girl's attention, get her thinking about me all through the day b/c that's probably what I am doing about her. Have her get that obvious excited look on her face whenever I show up.

Pulling trim is easy, getting a girl to devote her attention to me is my goal.

[Jeffery]

All guys? Wrong.

Sorry, but I must be the exception because at this point in life I would rather get a girl's emotional attention. I've proved to myself that I can pull tail if that's all I want. What I really want in return is to grab the girl's attention, get her thinking about me all through the day b/c that's probably what I am doing about her. Have her get that obvious excited look on her face whenever I show up.

Pulling trim is easy, getting a girl to devote her attention to me is my goal.
You have to forgive him.

Kids who think they know everything based on their limited experience often assume the rest of the world is just like them.

[Swartzstrom]

Roody Poo, Jeffery, and Dirka Dirka, you're all wrong.

See, the thing is, you're males. The primary function of males in nature is to find a mate and spread their seed, in that their offspring carries their traits, so their offspring can mate, have their offspring, and so-on and so-fourth. You cannot defy nature, for to do so is to defy, "God." If you fail to spread your seed, you fail to fufill your goal as a male. You'll most likely argue with me, but I, a very insightful male, after certain...changes, that have occured in my life, now see it. The fact that all males, regardless of what they believe, will do anything within their power in order to spread their seed across the planet...which is the primary reason why this planet is overpopulated, but that is beside the point.

The fact is, it is your nature to try and spread your seed. It is your nature as a male. You've seen the shows, animals and their mating calls, and whatnot. They use this, "Mating Call", to find their mate and spread their seed. This is exactly what humans do. Now, here's the problem with this, we control the planet. We are second in power only to, "God." But the main question is, what is "God?" How does this "God" exist? The thing is, there is no such thing as "God." We can do whatever we feel like doing on this planet, no species has ever dominated the planet as we do now, it's unhealthy, and we're killing ourselves. Period.

Next?

[dirka dirka]

Swartzstrom, you are a complete and total IDIOT. You have lost all respect in my eyes. Just because we are males, does not mean we only seek physical attention. This may be your hidden agenda, however is not all males. You just need to stop stereotyping us on account that you are an asshole.

"If you fail to spread your seed, you fail to fulfill your goal as a male."
That is the most arrogant thing I've ever heard.

Listen, you are wrong in most of what you say. This entire thread was based in ignorance that you think you know of new relationships, when you haven't been in one for four years? Then you go and say this.

Don't stereotype us with your egotistical idiotic persona, that you think all males have, when in fact not all and evidently you have.

Edit: BTW, we are WAY more advanced then animals. By we, I don't include you.
Edit2: and you wonder why your four year relationship failed?

[Medemia]

In nature, there are animals that, once they have a mate, stay with that mate for life, such as the mallard duck. While I agree that procreation is the basis of most of the world's relationships, humanity is different. There is so much more that goes on in a marraige than just the sex.
I'll leave it at that unless it goes farther.

[dirka dirka]

In nature, there are animals that, once they have a mate, stay with that mate for life, such as the mallard duck. While I agree that procreation is the basis of most of the world's relationships, humanity is different. There is so much more that goes on in a marraige than just the sex.
I'll leave it at that unless it goes farther.

Exactly, well said. Rep++;

[Swartzstrom]

Swartzstrom, you are a complete and total IDIOT. You have lost all respect in my eyes. Just because we are males, does not mean we only seek physical attention. This may be your hidden agenda, however is not all males. You just need to stop stereotyping us on account that you are an asshole.

"If you fail to spread your seed, you fail to fulfill your goal as a male."
That is the most arrogant thing I've ever heard.

Listen, you are wrong in most of what you say. This entire thread was based in ignorance that you think you know of new relationships, when you haven't been in one for four years? Then you go and say this.

Don't stereotype us with your egotistical idiotic persona, that you think all males have, when in fact not all and evidently you have.

Edit: BTW, we are WAY more advanced then animals. By we, I don't include you.
Edit2: and you wonder why your four year relationship failed?

For one, I didn't say I haven't been in one for four years, two, it didn't fail, it was an unfortunate side effect of her moving away.

For three, to say that it you are above your primal being is arrogant, not what I said. I simply accept the fact of what my primary purpose in nature is. It is hard to take the truth, I know, but in time you will learn to live with it. You're only 16, so you probably don't know what you're even talking about. You'd have to have seen this in action, really stay on the outside and observe the people on the inside. Then you will be able to see, just as I was. The most intelligent man I've ever seen taught me this, and I see what he was talking about. In the deepest reaches of an animals mind, the very deepest desire, is to spread it's seed across the world. It's enough to make me sick. However, I do accept it, and I will be prepared when the time comes, when my primal instinct take over and I do what I must do in order to fufill my primary goal on this planet. To say that this is any different from any human being is to defy nature, or "God."

[dirka dirka]

For one, I didn't say I haven't been in one for four years, two, it didn't fail, it was an unfortunate side effect of her moving away.

For one, yes you did. - >
Not at the moment. I just broke up with a girl because she was moving away. I've been with her nearing 4 years. I'm 16 years old, in case you want to know.

For two, it did fail. Just because there is an upcoming storm, means you cut bait and run? That shows you didn't truly love her. Showing it wasn't that serious. If it was serious, you wouldn't bitch out because of impending disaster, you would get ready for it, and try to stop it or go with it.

For three, to say that it you are above your primal being is arrogant, not what I said. I simply accept the fact of what my primary purpose in nature is. It is hard to take the truth, I know, but in time you will learn to live with it. You're only 16, so you probably don't know what you're even talking about. You'd have to have seen this in action, really stay on the outside and observe the people on the inside. Then you will be able to see, just as I was. The most intelligent man I've ever seen taught me this, and I see what he was talking about. In the deepest reaches of an animals mind, the very deepest desire, is to spread it's seed across the world. It's enough to make me sick. However, I do accept it, and I will be prepared when the time comes, when my primal instinct take over and I do what I must do in order to fufill my primary goal on this planet. To say that this is any different from any human being is to defy nature, or "God."
Our "primal being"?? Our "primal instinct"?? You've got to be kidding me. You can't even justify what you said. We have no primal being, we are humanity(we does not include you). Humanity is set apart from the primal essence. We have no cardinal rule that says we are failures if we do not mate. You are arrogant, and once again stop including us in your egotistical idiotic persona of man.

[Swartzstrom]

For one, yes you did. - >


For two, it did fail. Just because there is an upcoming storm, means you cut bait and run? That shows you didn't truly love her. Showing it wasn't that serious. If it was serious, you wouldn't bitch out because of impending disaster, you would get ready for it, and try to stop it or go with it.


Our "primal being"?? Our "primal instinct"?? You've got to be kidding me. You can't even justify what you said. We have no primal being, we are humanity(we does not include you). Humanity is set apart from the primal essence. We have no cardinal rule that says we are failures if we do not mate. You are arrogant, and once again stop including us in your egotistical idiotic persona of man.

You're only 16 years old, how the hell are you supposed to know what love is? I never said that I loved her, I'm not going to tell somebody something that I know isn't true. That goes against my morals.

It's not my "Egotistical Idiotic Persona of a Man," it's the nature of males. And that is in all life, including humans. You cannot be set apart from the primal essence, it is impossible. To say this is to say that you are more significant than every species of animal, and plant for that matter, on the face of the planet. That is arrogance.

[dirka dirka]

It's not my "Egotistical Idiotic Persona of a Man," it's the nature of males. And that is in all life, including humans. You cannot be set apart from the primal essence, it is impossible. To say this is to say that you are more significant than every species of animal, and plant for that matter, on the face of the planet. That is arrogance.

What is arrogance is you saying you know what all males are driven by. It isn't the nature of all males. Animals are driven by instinct, HUMANS ARE NOT. We have no primal essence(thanx for using my phrase btw), aside for survival. We have been set apart from animals long ago. We are more significant then other species!! We have the most impact on what goes on! Sure, we couldn't live without animals or plants, however if we decided to kill all of a species, whos to say we couldn't?

You're only 16 years old, how the hell are you supposed to know what love is? I never said that I loved her, I'm not going to tell somebody something that I know isn't true. That goes against my morals.

Did I say I knew what love was? Who said you loved her? The fact is, you bitched out.

Edit: I won't continue this, this is my last post on this subject. It is your egotistical idiotic persona of a man. End of story.

[Swartzstrom]

What is arrogance is you saying you know what all males are driven by. It isn't the nature of all males. Animals are driven by instinct, HUMANS ARE NOT.

Humans are mammals. Mammals are a type of animal. Everybody knows that. You're sixteen and didn't know that?

We have no primal essence(thanx for using my phrase btw), aside for survival. We have been set apart from animals long ago. We are more significant then other species!! We have the most impact on what goes on! Sure, we couldn't live without animals or plants, however if we decided to kill all of a species, whos to say we couldn't?

If we decided to eradicate any species on the face of the Earth, we can do it, but there is one thing that counters your statement by a severe amount: Cause and Effect.
If we eradicated an entire species, we would have a overpopulation of the species that that the species we eradicated ate. Then you also have to take into account the species that eats the species that we eradicated, they would be forced to find another food source.
Eradicating any species would cause an extreme inbalance of nature.



Did I say I knew what love was? Who said you loved her? The fact is, you bitched out.

I didn't bitch out, I prepared for the moment in which her moving away was going to come. I said my last goodbyes, and let go.

Edit: I won't continue this, this is my last post on this subject. It is your egotistical idiotic persona of a man. End of story.

Don't bitch out, I'm winning and you know it.

[Zeratul]

one word.
arguement thread.

[Swartzstrom]

one word.
arguement thread.

You posted on this Thread to say that? Go away.

[Zeratul]

but above all the whoring I may be doing, I'm right.

[dirka dirka]

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?p=324945&posted=1#post324945

but above all the whoring I may be doing, I'm right.
Very right, he is just dumb. I posted in the AT.

[Spit_101]

one word.
arguement thread.You mean two words? :rolleyes:

[Zeratul]

WOW twice in one day, aren't you the master of the Obvious.

[Spit_101]

Naw...I just have a brain.

[Jeffery]

Naw...I just have a brain.
Really?
You manage to not use it an aweful lot then. [/random insult]

[TheBlazedAce]

Swartz. I am curious as to your opinion of the purpose of the female in nature or in human society?

From what I see of what you're talking about you're basically preaching the same thing that the father of modern psychology preached. Sigmund Froid stated that every action of anyone in the human race (which also fit in with most other races) is in some way leading to reproduction. For example, the clothes you wear, the hygeine you keep, the things you say and do, Froid argued, all were done with the sole purpose behind it all to attract the opposite sex. The problem with the argument is that there is a whole spectra of other things people commit their lives to sometimes that has nothing to do with leading to reproduction. There are a countless number of other goals people often have in mind that usually sound equally as shelfish (i.e. money, technological advancement, scientific discovery (the one that really turns it off)).

The truth is for all his ingenious discovery that mental disabilities can be treated and that the mind is something we barely understand, his ideals of psychology are considered wrong among today's modern world. It was a good start, but it is shrugged aside as basically the first stab at a field that no one even thought about yet before.

You have to admit you haven't made every action in your life with the sole purpose of obtaining a mate to reproduce with. What about protection of the fellow species or survival? What about people that don't want to have children? What about people that devote their life to science in any way and end up not coming near the potential of reproduction, but leave behind a good legacy that helps the world in a way? Are all their efforts in vain just becuase they have not obtained this "primal goal" of reproduction?

First, I am not a believer in God, but I still remember my religion. Just because it is observed that most organisms devote most of their lives to the goal of reproduction doesn't mean this is our goal. In fact the Bible, Torah, or Kuran (if I mispelled that I'm so so sorry, but I believe it's right), although mentioning the idea that reproduction is one goal, mention many other more important aspects of life. None of the 10 commandments, which I believe are in all three of these, mention anything involving direct orders to reproduce, so therefore I find your proof that it's God's will that we dedicate our lives to the sole purpose of reproduction to be wrong.

Please comment again, I believe in the manner speaking we can both have a civilized discussion about this topic without leading to an argument like dirka so easily strays into, so I'd rather keep this to a good debate in this thread.

[dirka dirka]

No, it wasn't a debate. He stereotyped man. He insulted me.

[roody poo]

What is so funny to me is this "reproductive" arguement. You are generalizing all males and honestly I don't really care. This is the most bogus stupid assed thread that I've read in a while. Fact of the matter is, I don't have kids and don't want kids. So ummm, that's twice that I am going directly against what you say is supposedly my "foundation need" in life. I am sure we will get another long winded arguement that you probably copy and paste from someone elses site. You don't know me, and you really don't seem to understand how life works either. Wait until you experience a little more of adult life, then bother posting a thread that tries to explain the psyche of the human male.

[Ignition]

[/random insult]
some of the best kind... got any for me? just to see what it's like

[Swartzstrom]

Swartz. I am curious as to your opinion of the purpose of the female in nature or in human society?

From what I see of what you're talking about you're basically preaching the same thing that the father of modern psychology preached. Sigmund Froid stated that every action of anyone in the human race (which also fit in with most other races) is in some way leading to reproduction. For example, the clothes you wear, the hygeine you keep, the things you say and do, Froid argued, all were done with the sole purpose behind it all to attract the opposite sex. The problem with the argument is that there is a whole spectra of other things people commit their lives to sometimes that has nothing to do with leading to reproduction. There are a countless number of other goals people often have in mind that usually sound equally as shelfish (i.e. money, technological advancement, scientific discovery (the one that really turns it off)).

The truth is for all his ingenious discovery that mental disabilities can be treated and that the mind is something we barely understand, his ideals of psychology are considered wrong among today's modern world. It was a good start, but it is shrugged aside as basically the first stab at a field that no one even thought about yet before.

You have to admit you haven't made every action in your life with the sole purpose of obtaining a mate to reproduce with. What about protection of the fellow species or survival? What about people that don't want to have children? What about people that devote their life to science in any way and end up not coming near the potential of reproduction, but leave behind a good legacy that helps the world in a way? Are all their efforts in vain just becuase they have not obtained this "primal goal" of reproduction?

First, I am not a believer in God, but I still remember my religion. Just because it is observed that most organisms devote most of their lives to the goal of reproduction doesn't mean this is our goal. In fact the Bible, Torah, or Kuran (if I mispelled that I'm so so sorry, but I believe it's right), although mentioning the idea that reproduction is one goal, mention many other more important aspects of life. None of the 10 commandments, which I believe are in all three of these, mention anything involving direct orders to reproduce, so therefore I find your proof that it's God's will that we dedicate our lives to the sole purpose of reproduction to be wrong.

Please comment again, I believe in the manner speaking we can both have a civilized discussion about this topic without leading to an argument like dirka so easily strays into, so I'd rather keep this to a good debate in this thread.

Not every action, just those that have to do with a female. I wouldn't know what a female's role in life is, because I haven't studied females thoroughly. I would assume it is to keep man from reverting back to his primal nature: The Will to Survive at any cost and under any circumstances.

I'm quite surprised that this Thread is still alive. I know none of you agree with me, and the invitation to an excellent discussion, Blazed, is quite appreciated. I will comment more once I actually read everything you said. :D

roody poo, I'm not sure that I said something about it being impossible for you to go against your primal nature. I will check back and see if I said anything remotely close to that.

[roody poo]

roody poo, I'm not sure that I said something about it being impossible for you to go against your primal nature. I will check back and see if I said anything remotely close to that.

See that's my point. Don't tell me what my primal nature is. We are all different, that's what makes life so beautiful. It is summed up best in two words... "free will". I mean any killer can say it is our human nature to destroy things, look at the way we treat earth. Thus they are only acting on human nature by killing another. And that I as a person who has never murdered, am acting against my human nature daily. Human nature is how you are wired as an individual. There is no encompassing conclusion, otherwise we wouldn't have multiple schools of thought.

*yawn*

[Glamdring]

My turn.

Swartz, I think about 90% of what you've said here is complete and utter dung.

In the first place, going out to a light movie is one of my favorite things to do on a date, because it's relaxing, stimulates discussion, and enjoyable. My least favorite first dates were going to some "classy" restaurant, because I was extremely uncomfortable, and so was he. I can't stand having a guy treat me like glass, it pisses me off. I'd almost rather hold the spit cup.

As far as guys go, don't assume that every guy is as stupid and inconsiderate as you are. Just because you can only think with your other brain doesn't mean everyone else is the same. You're what, 17? 16? You've barely lived, and you think you understand how the male mind works, just because you are one. Now I know for a fact that I don't understand how they work, but I also know that I don't understand how women work. I understand more than you do, sure, but I'm not going to tell you "they only ever think like so," because I can't truthfully say it.

Now in response to your comment about knowing everything about a girl, if the only thing keeping you with a person is the mystery, you need to take a good hard look at yourself, because you've got issues. By that reckoning, every marriage would end in divorce. How long do you think it would take before you know everything there is to know about your wife, even if she's not the type who tells you everything? Ten years, probably less. If not, you get the other end of the spectrum, and you feel estranged.

When you love someone, you love them for who they are, not for what they show you.

You can't put people in little boxes and define them like this, because when you do you're wrong. Doesn't matter what you say, you're wrong. Because people don't fit in boxes.

[Bottle]

My turn.

Swartz, I think about 90% of what you've said here is complete and utter dung.

In the first place, going out to a light movie is one of my favorite things to do on a date, because it's relaxing, stimulates discussion, and enjoyable. My least favorite first dates were going to some "classy" restaurant, because I was extremely uncomfortable, and so was he. I can't stand having a guy treat me like glass, it pisses me off. I'd almost rather hold the spit cup.

As far as guys go, don't assume that every guy is as stupid and inconsiderate as you are. Just because you can only think with your other brain doesn't mean everyone else is the same. You're what, 17? 16? You've barely lived, and you think you understand how the male mind works, just because you are one. Now I know for a fact that I don't understand how they work, but I also know that I don't understand how women work. I understand more than you do, sure, but I'm not going to tell you "they only ever think like so," because I can't truthfully say it.

Now in response to your comment about knowing everything about a girl, if the only thing keeping you with a person is the mystery, you need to take a good hard look at yourself, because you've got issues. By that reckoning, every marriage would end in divorce. How long do you think it would take before you know everything there is to know about your wife, even if she's not the type who tells you everything? Ten years, probably less. If not, you get the other end of the spectrum, and you feel estranged.

When you love someone, you love them for who they are, not for what they show you.

You can't put people in little boxes and define them like this, because when you do you're wrong. Doesn't matter what you say, you're wrong.
Oo, burn!

Because people don't fit in boxes.
I can! I have this MASSIVE box...

*gets in box*

Right, now I just have to figure how to get out of it again. :(

[dirka dirka]

See that's my point. Don't tell me what my primal nature is. We are all different, that's what makes life so beautiful. It is summed up best in two words... "free will". I mean any killer can say it is our human nature to destroy things, look at the way we treat earth. Thus they are only acting on human nature by killing another. And that I as a person who has never murdered, am acting against my human nature daily. Human nature is how you are wired as an individual. There is no encompassing conclusion, otherwise we wouldn't have multiple schools of thought.

*yawn*

Exactly, well said roody. This kid is so friggen arrogant, and hes 16!!!

[roody poo]

Because people don't fit in boxes.

I know for a fact that Frylock lives in an old refrigerator box. However, we had a cookout the other day and the flame got a little too close to his house and unfortunately he is now homeless. I talked nomar's mom into putting him up for a couple of nights, but he can't very well be there when I make my next visit...so if any of you all happen to get a new appliance anytime soon, we need to get it to Frylock so that he may have a home to rest his head at again.

[roody poo]

Exactly, well said roody. This kid is so friggen arrogant, and hes 16!!!

Word. And Glamdring scores points as well.

[dirka dirka]

Yeap, very nice also glam. :)

[Swartzstrom]

My turn.

Swartz, I think about 90% of what you've said here is complete and utter dung.

And that's my problem...why?

In the first place, going out to a light movie is one of my favorite things to do on a date, because it's relaxing, stimulates discussion, and enjoyable. My least favorite first dates were going to some "classy" restaurant, because I was extremely uncomfortable, and so was he. I can't stand having a guy treat me like glass, it pisses me off. I'd almost rather hold the spit cup.

...You're a girl? I didn't know that...You never said anything. We aren't even on the subject of dating anymore.

As far as guys go, don't assume that every guy is as stupid and inconsiderate as you are. Just because you can only think with your other brain doesn't mean everyone else is the same. You're what, 17? 16? You've barely lived, and you think you understand how the male mind works, just because you are one. Now I know for a fact that I don't understand how they work, but I also know that I don't understand how women work. I understand more than you do, sure, but I'm not going to tell you "they only ever think like so," because I can't truthfully say it.

I find it quite amazing that you people keep referring to me as stupid; if you don't agree, then don't post. I'll get the message that way. Just give me a negative rep, and I'll see your point. But if you insist on arguing this battle...

I've lived long enough and watched peoples' actions long enough to know this. You'll probably assume me as arrogant, but that's your problem, not mine. I don't say that I know how the male mind works because I am one. If that was the reason, in that case, I'd be completely wrong, and wouldn't have started this thread in the first place. I know how the mind works because I've been in acquaintence with many males, from all walks of life, just about every social class, from almost every group available. You want to see arrogant? Maybe I'll put one of those people on my account and show you something about being arrogant.

Now in response to your comment about knowing everything about a girl, if the only thing keeping you with a person is the mystery, you need to take a good hard look at yourself, because you've got issues. By that reckoning, every marriage would end in divorce. How long do you think it would take before you know everything there is to know about your wife, even if she's not the type who tells you everything? Ten years, probably less. If not, you get the other end of the spectrum, and you feel estranged.

That's why it's called dating advice, not marriage advice.

When you love someone, you love them for who they are, not for what they show you.

When did I say the opposite?

You can't put people in little boxes and define them like this, because when you do you're wrong. Doesn't matter what you say, you're wrong. Because people don't fit in boxes.

...This is just stupid. I never put people in boxes. You know what? Why is this thread still alive? If you insist on disagreeing with me, then do so, but just give me negative reps. I'll argue as long as I can, but there is a limit to my patience.

[King Koopa]

And that's my problem...why?



...You're a girl? I didn't know that...You never said anything. We aren't even on the subject of dating anymore.



I find it quite amazing that you people keep referring to me as stupid; if you don't agree, then don't post. I'll get the message that way. Just give me a negative rep, and I'll see your point. But if you insist on arguing this battle...

I've lived long enough and watched peoples' actions long enough to know this. You'll probably assume me as arrogant, but that's your problem, not mine. I don't say that I know how the male mind works because I am one. If that was the reason, in that case, I'd be completely wrong, and wouldn't have started this thread in the first place. I know how the mind works because I've been in acquaintence with many males, from all walks of life, just about every social class, from almost every group available. You want to see arrogant? Maybe I'll put one of those people on my account and show you something about being arrogant.



That's why it's called dating advice, not marriage advice.



When did I say the opposite?



...This is just stupid. I never put people in boxes. You know what? Why is this thread still alive? If you insist on disagreeing with me, then do so, but just give me negative reps. I'll argue as long as I can, but there is a limit to my patience.


Meh, it's dating advice for men to get woman. If there is a woman who doesn't agree with a thing you say, you obviously have never been in a serious relationship. There is a difference between 'dating' advice and 'getting in the bed quick' advice, no? ;)


~:::Koopa:::~

[dirka dirka]

And that's my problem...why?
Because you said it, therefor you made yourself look dumb.



...You're a girl? I didn't know that...You never said anything. We aren't even on the subject of dating anymore.
Actually, we are on the subject if your info is correct or not... and the original info wasn't according to Glam(yes, a girl)... If you didn't know she was a chick, you need to die.



I find it quite amazing that you people keep referring to me as stupid; if you don't agree, then don't post. I'll get the message that way. Just give me a negative rep, and I'll see your point. But if you insist on arguing this battle...
It has nothing to do with agreing, you are hurting the reputation of all men, and being arrogant.

I've lived long enough and watched peoples' actions long enough to know this. You'll probably assume me as arrogant, but that's your problem, not mine. I don't say that I know how the male mind works because I am one. If that was the reason, in that case, I'd be completely wrong, and wouldn't have started this thread in the first place. I know how the mind works because I've been in acquaintence with many males, from all walks of life, just about every social class, from almost every group available. You want to see arrogant? Maybe I'll put one of those people on my account and show you something about being arrogant.
Actually... you did say you know how the male mind works...

That's why it's called dating advice, not marriage advice.
However, your advice... it sucked. ;)

...This is just stupid. I never put people in boxes. You know what? Why is this thread still alive? If you insist on disagreeing with me, then do so, but just give me negative reps. I'll argue as long as I can, but there is a limit to my patience.
This thread is alive because you made it, and we are voicing our opinions. You are an idiotic person that thinks all males want physical contact because thats all you want.

[TheBlazedAce]

You are an idiotic person that thinks all males want physical contact because thats all you want.

I'm just going to point out that swartz is 16. He doesn't know what he wants yet. I just hope he realizes this.

[dirka dirka]

I'm just going to point out that swartz is 16. He doesn't know what he wants yet. I just hope he realizes this.

I am 16 also, however he is talking like he knows what he wants. Also that he knows what all males want. He just needs to admit he is wrong. He thinks all males want physical contact.

[Warcow]

And that's my problem...why?
Because you are trying to pass it off as truth, or as more valid than it actually is.
...You're a girl? I didn't know that...You never said anything. We aren't even on the subject of dating anymore.
Well, considering that is the topic of the thread . . .
I find it quite amazing that you people keep referring to me as stupid; if you don't agree, then don't post. I'll get the message that way. Just give me a negative rep, and I'll see your point. But if you insist on arguing this battle...
People post when they disagree, that is why we have forums. If we didn't post when we disagreed, the whole forums would be 3-4 post threads and a crapload of negative rep

I've lived long enough and watched peoples' actions long enough to know this. You'll probably assume me as arrogant, but that's your problem, not mine. I don't say that I know how the male mind works because I am one. If that was the reason, in that case, I'd be completely wrong, and wouldn't have started this thread in the first place. I know how the mind works because I've been in acquaintence with many males, from all walks of life, just about every social class, from almost every group available. You want to see arrogant? Maybe I'll put one of those people on my account and show you something about being arrogant.
That is why you are arrogant, because at 16 you assume that you know more about people than everyone else. Do you actually think that you are different from others in that you interact with other people? Open your eyes, you aren't. We've all met people from all groups, races, religions, and the majority of people are disagreeing with you. Where then is your advice for those people, that are so vehemently against your definition of male nature. You are putting people in boxes, and labelling them. That is no different than a racist or a sexist.

That's why it's called dating advice, not marriage advice.
Obviously you don't know many married couples, you will find that what works in dating, is quite frequently good advice for marriage as well, as they are both seeking to reinforce a relationship

When did I say the opposite?
When you started talking about the mystery being all there is.
...This is just stupid. I never put people in boxes. You know what? Why is this thread still alive? If you insist on disagreeing with me, then do so, but just give me negative reps. I'll argue as long as I can, but there is a limit to my patience. By stereo typing, you ARE putting people in the boxes, categorizing them as if they are all the same.

Also, in regards to the negative reps, people don't give negative reps simply because they disagree, they give them for poor ill-thought out posts that contain little or any intelligence or tact.

[Swartzstrom]

I can't believe you guys actually fell for this! You've been arguing with me this whole time with no point in the entire issue...you guys are really crazy. This entire thread, this whole point, was to see how much you'd argue with me. I can't believe this... You're crazy. I found it quite entertaining. That's a record with my threads! How many, 93 posts? Hehehe, Boy, I must try this again in the future...this is amazing. You see, the transition from dating to man's primal nature was planned by me. I wanted to see how many males would respond and how many times. I had no idea, though, that a female would speak on the subject. Actually doing this to you guys makes me feel like a million bucks! :D

The whole point of this was to show the power of the human mind and spirit. Our mind can find anything to use against others, and our spirit is unstoppable. I actually agree with what you said, dirka dirka, about us being the most superior species on the face of the earth; but I must say, I just don't think it would ever be a good idea to eradicate any species.

Glamdring...I think I remember something a while back, you commenting on you being a girl...it was months ago...

This also was a learning experience for myself. Learning exactly how you would respond to arrogance tells me that I can understand how your minds work a little bit better.

I thank you people for this.

I know it's coming, flame me. Lemme just put on my sunglasses so I won't get flecks of spit in my eyes. :cool:

[Spit_101]

Good job destroying yourself.

[Warcow]

I can't believe you guys actually fell for this! You've been arguing with me this whole time with no point in the entire issue...you guys are really crazy. This entire thread, this whole point, was to see how much you'd argue with me. I can't believe this... You're crazy. I found it quite entertaining. That's a record with my threads! How many, 93 posts? Hehehe, Boy, I must try this again in the future...this is amazing. You see, the transition from dating to man's primal nature was planned by me. I wanted to see how many males would respond and how many times. I had no idea, though, that a female would speak on the subject. Actually doing this to you guys makes me feel like a million bucks!

The whole point of this was to show the power of the human mind and spirit. Our mind can find anything to use against others, and our spirit is unstoppable. I actually agree with what you said, dirka dirka, about us being the most superior species on the face of the earth; but I must say, I just don't think it would ever be a good idea to eradicate any species.

Glamdring...I think I remember something a while back, you commenting on you being a girl...it was months ago...

This also was a learning experience for myself. Learning exactly how you would respond to arrogance tells me that I can understand how your minds work a little bit better.

I thank you people for this.

I know it's coming, flame me. :cool:

No you didn't. Convenient how when you run out of things to say in your defense. TAH-DAH! You guys fell for it, nyah nyah. :rolleyes:

[Swartzstrom]

Good job destroying yourself.

Thanks, that's the best job I've ever done. I've destroyed my reputation at TAO, I know, but I had to see how this would end up.

EDIT to Warcow: Ah, crap. Lookie what I've started. :rolleyes:

I hate being curious.

[TheBlazedAce]

I can't believe you guys actually fell for this! You've been arguing with me this whole time with no point in the entire issue...you guys are really crazy. This entire thread, this whole point, was to see how much you'd argue with me. I can't believe this... You're crazy. I found it quite entertaining. That's a record with my threads! How many, 93 posts? Hehehe, Boy, I must try this again in the future...this is amazing. You see, the transition from dating to man's primal nature was planned by me. I wanted to see how many males would respond and how many times. I had no idea, though, that a female would speak on the subject. Actually doing this to you guys makes me feel like a million bucks! :D

The whole point of this was to show the power of the human mind and spirit. Our mind can find anything to use against others, and our spirit is unstoppable. I actually agree with what you said, dirka dirka, about us being the most superior species on the face of the earth; but I must say, I just don't think it would ever be a good idea to eradicate any species.

Glamdring...I think I remember something a while back, you commenting on you being a girl...it was months ago...

This also was a learning experience for myself. Learning exactly how you would respond to arrogance tells me that I can understand how your minds work a little bit better.

I thank you people for this.

I know it's coming, flame me. :cool:

I seriously hope you don't think you're original. Once everyone disagrees with everything you say you make up some excuse on how that's exactly what you wanted... It has only been used... 1, 2, 3...99, 100... 9999999999... times or so.

[dirka dirka]

I can't believe you guys actually fell for this! You've been arguing with me this whole time with no point in the entire issue...you guys are really crazy. This entire thread, this whole point, was to see how much you'd argue with me.


Um... It moved into this by no will of your own. It started out as advice that may apply to some situations, and people analyzed it. The flaming started when you took an arrogant tone toward it. Then the spark to light the fire was you saying males want only sex. The fact is, you didn't do it on purpose, it was a good thread until you mad an idiot out of yourself. Nice attempt at a save however.

[Swartzstrom]

Um... It moved into this by no will of your own. It started out as advice that may apply to some situations, and people analyzed it. The flaming started when you took an arrogant tone toward it. Then the spark to light the fire was you saying males want only sex. The fact is, you didn't do it on purpose, it was a good thread until you mad an idiot out of yourself. Nice attempt at a save however.

...You don't know how to feign arrogance?

Blazed, I know I'm not original. Not in this particular point in time and on this subject. I've been able to get inside your minds a little bit. I'm not saying that I know you well, but the idea to get inside each other's minds and see how we think can eventually prevent problems, see?

[roody poo]

Nice. You see that you've shown yourself as a complete and total douche bag so you turn around and say it was all a joke.


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiight

There is a difference between arrogance and ignorance and you were too far away from that line to try and pass it off as arrogance at this point. Nice try bud...nice try.....lmao...this seems more and more riddiculous the more I type so I have to quit.....lmao.....hahahahahahahaha.

*stops laughing for a sec*


No really, you didn't fool anyone with that post, and yes you are a complete idiot.

[dirka dirka]

...You don't know how to feign arrogance?

Blazed, I know I'm not original. Not in this particular point in time and on this subject. I've been able to get inside your minds a little bit. I'm not saying that I know you well, but the idea to get inside each other's minds and see how we think can eventually prevent problems, see?

Who said I didn't know how to fake arrogance... The fact is, you didn't. You made it blatantly obvious in your tone, and argument. You can't go back and say it was a joke, and it shows mass character that you said this. If you would have said my mistake guys, sorry... people would respect you more then now. Now you just made yourself look like a complete and total arrogant idiotic kid.

[Swartzstrom]

I know I didn't fool any one with that post. And I'm not going to argue. Now I have to find some way of convincing you that I really did intend it as a joke. I'm not even going to try, because now I can't win.

[TheBlazedAce]

...You don't know how to feign arrogance?

Blazed, I know I'm not original. Not in this particular point in time and on this subject. I've been able to get inside your minds a little bit. I'm not saying that I know you well, but the idea to get inside each other's minds and see how we think can eventually prevent problems, see?

No. That's a complete waste of a horrible idea. You're trying to say the best way to prevent problems in the future is to cause all of them now and see how everyone reacted to them and study that. I've lost my respect for you in a manner that even some of my worst enemies never could. Even if you didn't say that and you just apologized it wouldn't have mattered.

Making excuses makes you seem like a coward and a dolt. I hope you realize soon enough how pathetic of a life you're leading if this is the route you take every time you screw up.

[dirka dirka]

I know I didn't fool any one with that post. And I'm not going to argue. Now I have to find some way of convincing you that I really did intend it as a joke. I'm not even going to try, because now I can't win.

See, admit you were being an idiot... Admit you were stereotyping, admit you were being a horrible person... Don't say it was a joke, people know it wasn't a joke. Saying it was a joke makes you loose more respect. Admit to it and you may gain a little respect back. Trust me, I know this first hand.

[Swartzstrom]

No. That's a complete waste of a horrible idea. You're trying to say the best way to prevent problems in the future is to cause all of them now and see how everyone reacted to them and study that. I've lost my respect for you in a manner that even some of my worst enemies never could. Even if you didn't say that and you just apologized it wouldn't have mattered.

No, no, no. I'm trying to say that if we really tried to get along instead of assuming everything, blaming everybody, and making stupid excuses, we could avoid conflicts.

Making excuses makes you seem like a coward and a dolt. I hope you realize soon enough how pathetic of a life you're leading if this is the route you take every time you screw up.

This is the first time I've ever tried to make a point like this. I suck, I know. But I'm an observer. I live life on the outside, observing. That's my job.

Damn, here we go again.

dirka, none of these people, including you, never respected me in the first place.

[Glamdring]

By the way, I really don't give a rip whether anyone knows I'm a girl. In fact, a lot of the time I'd really prefer that no one knew. I only bring it up if someone asks or specifically calls me a he or something.

Doesn't really matter whether this thread was a joke or not (and woopteedoo, you managed to start a discussion in TAO. Have a gold star), the only one who looked like a fool was you.

[Swartzstrom]

By the way, I really don't give a rip whether anyone knows I'm a girl. In fact, a lot of the time I'd really prefer that no one knew. I only bring it up if someone asks or specifically calls me a he or something.

I just didn't know you were a girl. I didn't mean anything by it. I wasn't trying to offend you.

Doesn't really matter whether this thread was a joke or not (and woopteedoo, you managed to start a discussion in TAO. Have a gold star), the only one who looked like a fool was you.

I know I looked like a fool. I'll admit it. Curiosity sometimes will do that to you.

[dirka dirka]

dirka, none of these people, including you, never respected me in the first place.

Maybe because you gave us no reason to? You need to earn respect, it isn't free. Just admit it wasn't a joke and we'll go from there.

[Swartzstrom]

Maybe because you gave us no reason to? You need to earn respect, it isn't free. Just admit it wasn't a joke and we'll go from there.

I know I need to earn respect. I've not done anything to do so. I have a life, whether of not you people respect me isn't even on my worry list. I'm not going to admit it wasn't a joke, because that isn't true.

[Glamdring]

I just didn't know you were a girl. I didn't mean anything by it. I wasn't trying to offend you.


I know you didn't mean anything by it, and I kind of enjoy it. It's refreshing to know that some people haven't stuck that label on me.

[dirka dirka]

I know I need to earn respect. I've not done anything to do so. I have a life, whether of not you people respect me isn't even on my worry list. I'm not going to admit it wasn't a joke, because that isn't true.

"I know I need to earn respect."
"whether or not you people respect me isn't even on my worry list."

I'm gonna let you say what you want to say. This is my last comment, you are arrogant. You try to hide your idiotic persona of man behind a joke. One of these days, your arrogance will kill you. None of us will miss you, and I doubt anybody else will either.

Oh, and Edit: That is always the excuse... "I have a life." The Cheat uses that excuse. Well get back to your life then, and leave us alone.

[Swartzstrom]

"I know I need to earn respect."
"whether or not you people respect me isn't even on my worry list."

I'm gonna let you say what you want to say. This is my last comment, you are arrogant. You try to hide your idiotic persona of man behind a joke. One of these days, your arrogance will kill you. None of us will miss you, and I doubt anybody else will either.

Oh, and Edit: That is always the excuse... "I have a life." The Cheat uses that excuse. Well get back to your life then, and leave us alone.

I do not care if you think I am arrogant. That is not my problem.

Don't even compare me to The Cheat. That is a severe insult.

I don't care that if I die, nobody will miss me. I believe that you cannot trust anybody, not even your family, and you cannot rely on anybody but yourself. You do for yourself.

[dirka dirka]

I do not care if you think I am arrogant. That is not my problem.

Don't even compare me to The Cheat. That is a severe insult.

I don't care that if I die, nobody will miss me. I believe that you cannot trust anybody, not even your family, and you cannot rely on anybody but yourself. You do for yourself.


I know I said I wouldn't post again... However I lied... You just displayed your arrogance again. Also, you and the cheat are very alike. Now for real this time, I won't post. P.S. I don't think you are, I KNOW.

[Warcow]

I do not care if you think I am arrogant. That is not my problem.

Don't even compare me to The Cheat. That is a severe insult.

I don't care that if I die, nobody will miss me. I believe that you cannot trust anybody, not even your family, and you cannot rely on anybody but yourself. You do for yourself.

Wow, you just sounded alot like Jehut, in that little whiny, "No one loves me" voice. You can trust people, it is what makes life great, I feel bad that you are missing out on the greatest part of life.

[Swartzstrom]

Wow, you just sounded alot like Jehut, in that little whiny, "No one loves me" voice. You can trust people, it is what makes life great, I feel bad that you are missing out on the greatest part of life.

Just to say, I didn't say that without reason. It's just things that have happened in my life to provoke this point of view.

Dirka, if you aren't going to post in this subject anymore, then don't respond to this. Shut Up.

[King Koopa]

I can't believe you guys actually fell for this! You've been arguing with me this whole time with no point in the entire issue...you guys are really crazy. This entire thread, this whole point, was to see how much you'd argue with me. I can't believe this... You're crazy. I found it quite entertaining. That's a record with my threads! How many, 93 posts? Hehehe, Boy, I must try this again in the future...this is amazing. You see, the transition from dating to man's primal nature was planned by me. I wanted to see how many males would respond and how many times. I had no idea, though, that a female would speak on the subject. Actually doing this to you guys makes me feel like a million bucks! :D

The whole point of this was to show the power of the human mind and spirit. Our mind can find anything to use against others, and our spirit is unstoppable. I actually agree with what you said, dirka dirka, about us being the most superior species on the face of the earth; but I must say, I just don't think it would ever be a good idea to eradicate any species.

Glamdring...I think I remember something a while back, you commenting on you being a girl...it was months ago...

This also was a learning experience for myself. Learning exactly how you would respond to arrogance tells me that I can understand how your minds work a little bit better.

I thank you people for this.

I know it's coming, flame me. Lemme just put on my sunglasses so I won't get flecks of spit in my eyes. :cool:


Hahahahahah, what a retard. This is the oldest excuse for looking like an idiot in the books. "HAHA OMFG it WUZ ALL PLANED I FOLED U GUYSS HAHAHAHA!!!"


~:::Koopa:::~

[Warcow]

Just to say, I didn't say that without reason. It's just things that have happened in my life to provoke this point of view.

Dirka, if you aren't going to post in this subject anymore, then don't respond to this. Shut Up.

Stop with the awww look at me, I am so hard done by, so I am bitter posts. We've all had our pitfalls, our downtimes, our tragedies. Again you think you are different from everyone else, you aren't. I've probably had more turmoil lately than any other I know, and yet I am not complaining about how human relationships can't be trusted. Grow up, stop playing the tragic hero, and try not making yourself look like a jackass.

[dirka dirka]

Dirka, if you aren't going to post in this subject anymore, then don't respond to this. Shut Up.


So immature, lmao. Welcome to my IGNORE list.

[Swartzstrom]

Stop with the awww look at me, I am so hard done by, so I am bitter posts. We've all had our pitfalls, our downtimes, our tragedies. Again you think you are different from everyone else, you aren't. I've probably had more turmoil lately than any other I know, and yet I am not complaining about how human relationships can't be trusted. Grow up, stop playing the tragic hero, and try not making yourself look like a jackass.

"Human relationships can't be trusted?" I never said that. I just said that I don't trust anyone. I just believe in doing for yourself.

"Tragic Hero?" Pulleeeeease. Not even close. I wish I had honorable intentions in past experiences.

I'm grown-up enough. I'm an emancipated child. I live by myself, I have a job.

Warcow, I do not want to put you on my Ignore List. (I've never liked dirka dirka, and even he's not on my Ignore List, but that's beside the point.) I've always looked at you as an excellent TAO friend. Say what you've got to say, I'll respond accordingly, and we're done.

[dirka dirka]

I'm grown-up enough. I'm an emancipated child. I live by myself, I have a job.

That explains it all. However, what job is this?

[Swartzstrom]

That explains it all. However, what job is this?

I work in a small computer company. Nothing fancy or anything. I stock things, small stuff. Lock up at night...things like that. I don't ever want to work for a large company. I like the small stuff.

[Warcow]

I don't care that if I die, nobody will miss me. I believe that you cannot trust anybody, not even your family, and you cannot rely on anybody but yourself. You do for yourself.

I'd call that pretty much all human relationships, because trusting yourself sure isn't one.

Alright, perhaps the "Hero" term was the wrong word, but you definately tried to pull the pity card there, and wern't honest about it. When my dog died, I needed some consoling, so I made the thread and was honest about it. If you actually feel that way, talk about it rather than just putting in subtle hints to try and get you some attention, that above all else is something I can't respect.

As for the ignore list, why would you bother? There is no one on my ignore list anymore, I find there is no point. If i've said something to upset you overly, then I apologize for making you upset, but the truth needs to hurt sometimes, it is what makes us better people, but analyzing the truth, and trying to correct our flaws.

[dirka dirka]

I work in a small computer company. Nothing fancy or anything. I stock things, small stuff. Lock up at night...things like that. I don't ever want to work for a large company. I like the small stuff.

Okay, the max you make, THE TOP MAX, doing that is 10$ an hour. I doubt you can live off that. Also...


WHY THE HELL IS YOUR BIRTHDAY THE SAME AS MINE!?

[dirka dirka]

I'm grown-up enough. I'm an emancipated child. I live by myself, I have a job.

"The term emancipation applies to youth over the age of 16 and under 18"

It takes almost 4 months, I know this from first hand experience with my brother. January 27th... Not 4 months, you're a liar.

[roody poo]

Forgive me b/c I am more than a couple of newcastles deep on the evening...but this is some funny shit. lmao

Dude when my 24 period is up I am gonna positive rep ya just because I am laughing so damn much. Oh this is too much....

[Swartzstrom]

Okay, the max you make, THE TOP MAX, doing that is 10$ an hour. I doubt you can live off that. Also...


WHY THE HELL IS YOUR BIRTHDAY THE SAME AS MINE!?

...Because I was born on that day?

You can live off of $10 an hour, because if you couldn't they'd raise the minimun wage limit.

I'd call that pretty much all human relationships, because trusting yourself sure isn't one.

I know who I am, what I'm capable of, and why I've lived the way I've lived up until now.

Alright, perhaps the "Hero" term was the wrong word, but you definately tried to pull the pity card there, and wern't honest about it. When my dog died, I needed some consoling, so I made the thread and was honest about it. If you actually feel that way, talk about it rather than just putting in subtle hints to try and get you some attention, that above all else is something I can't respect.

I wish I felt pity over my life. Talking about it doesn't help anything. People will tell you, "I understand...", which is absolute BS. They cannot understand because they aren't you. You cannot talk about anything in your life to anybody else because they'd go and blabber it all off to somebody else.

As for the ignore list, why would you bother? There is no one on my ignore list anymore, I find there is no point. If i've said something to upset you overly, then I apologize for making you upset, but the truth needs to hurt sometimes, it is what makes us better people, but analyzing the truth, and trying to correct our flaws.

You didn't say anything to upset me overly, because I can control my temper, thanks to a post by Jeffery a while back. I'm not upsetted by anything. And the truth did hurt, once I found out that I cannot trust anyone, even family members. That hurt more than anything I've ever gone through. Not trusting anybody is the only way you can go through life without feeling any type of emotional pain.

[dirka dirka]

http://www.lawlib.state.ma.us/clcemancipate.html
Smith v. Seibly...

You can't be emancipated yet... you can't even have your license yet...

You can live off of $10 an hour, because if you couldn't they'd raise the minimun wage limit.

Min wage isnt cost of living idiot.

[Swartzstrom]

http://www.lawlib.state.ma.us/clcemancipate.html
Smith v. Seibly...

You can't be emancipated yet... you can't even have your license yet...



Min wage isnt cost of living idiot.

I know that minimum wage isn't the cost of living. Minimum wage is the lowest amount that can be paid in a job. The minimum wage was originally set in order for the lowest cost of living, not including cars, TVs, and whatnot.

Okay, let me clarify. You might as well say that I am emancipated, my father's never home. He's just about always working.

[dirka dirka]

I know that minimum wage isn't the cost of living. Minimum wage is the lowest amount that can be paid in a job. The minimum wage was originally set in order for the lowest cost of living, not including cars, TVs, and whatnot.

Post Before: You can live off of $10 an hour, because if you couldn't they'd raise the minimun wage limit.
... one if forced to conclude you have no idea what you're talking about

Okay, let me clarify. You might as well say that I am emancipated, my father's never home. He's just about always working.

No you lied, you're not emancipated. Atleast you admitted it this time. You don't pay rent, you don't pay for electric...

[gryph89]

The problem is that all guys seek one thing in return for all that niceness: A Physical Payoff. It could be a hug, a kiss, holding hands. All guys seek a physical payoff. There is no argument. It's pure fact. Anybody that tries to argue with this will be utterly disappointed when they lose.

now I disagree with that,if you truly like the woman you are dating then just spending time with her is all you can ever want. There is no payoffs in that.
..i got up to page 4 then stopped reading :rolleyes:

[Swartzstrom]

... one if forced to conclude you have no idea what you're talking about



No you lied, you're not emancipated. Atleast you admitted it this time. You don't pay rent, you don't pay for electric...

Um...Ya, I do...sort of. I front half the rent, electric, water, and whatnot.

This time? What d'you mean by that?

[dirka dirka]

now I disagree with that,if you truly like the woman you are dating then just spending time with her is all you can ever want. There is no payoffs in that.
..i got up to page 4 then stopped reading :rolleyes:

Thats what this entire thead is about now.

[dirka dirka]

Um...Ya, I do...sort of. I front half the rent, electric, water, and whatnot.

This time? What d'you mean by that?

I doubt you pay half of shit, just most likely another lie, because the rest of what you said is lies. However this time I can't prove it wrong.

This time, as in last time you didn't admit you were being dumb, this time you did.

[Swartzstrom]

I know I looked like a fool. I'll admit it. Curiosity sometimes will do that to you.

Yeah, I did, pretty much. Right here.

[dirka dirka]

Yeah, I did, pretty much. Right here.
"Look Like"

[Swartzstrom]

"Look Like"

Okay, I said, "Look Like..." instead of, "I am." I see what you're implying. You believe...no, you KNOW that I am an idiot. If that is what you believe, then so be it. I, nor anybody else, can change your views.

[dirka dirka]

but you could change my point of view on your persona... Turn off the dumb?

[Swartzstrom]

but you could change my point of view on your persona... Turn off the dumb?

You mean, "Quit acting like a moron and start typing intelligently like I know you can?"

EDIT: I've got Geometry homework to do and a midterm tomorrow. I'll come back to this pointless argument tomorrow. Probably around 1 O'Clock.

[dirka dirka]

You mean, "Quit acting like a moron and start typing intelligently like I know you can?"

Read my mind... its amazing... :o

[dirka dirka]

EDIT: I've got Geometry homework to do and a midterm tomorrow. I'll come back to this pointless argument tomorrow. Probably around 1 O'Clock.

School? 1 O'Clock? Uhm?

[Spit_101]

So now we have gone from a dating argument to digration of Swartz? *Points to Argument Thread*

[dirka dirka]

So now we have gone from a dating argument to digration of Swartz? *Points to Argument Thread*

Its in the argument thread also, swarts brought it back here.

[Warcow]

Its in the argument thread also, swarts brought it back here.

You also continued to adress him though, so the fault IS partially yours.

Though I suppose I kind of did the same, even though mine was intended not as an arguement.

[Spit_101]

Yes, but it's an argument about dating, couples, etc. After Swartz ran out of BS to say he decided to go off topic. And now it's a 'FLAME SWARTZ! FLAME SWARTZ!' thread.

[dirka dirka]

You also continued to adress him though, so the fault IS partially yours.

Though I suppose I kind of did the same, even though mine was intended not as an arguement.

Mine was not intended as an argument either, the posts in the argument thread were, thats why they were there. The posts here were not argumentative posts. I just brought myself to conclusions about him. He has lied numerous times.

[Swartzstrom]

Mine was not intended as an argument either, the posts in the argument thread were, thats why they were there. The posts here were not argumentative posts. I just brought myself to conclusions about him. He has lied numerous times.

I lied about the emancipation thing, and that's it. If you'd get rid of your argumentative ego, you'd know that.

[TheBlazedAce]

I lied about the emancipation thing, and that's it. If you'd get rid of your argumentative ego, you'd know that.

If you lied so easily about something that no one cared about or made you look bad in any way what's to stop you from lying about almost everything you have said in this thread when most of it did make you look bad. Why should we trust anything you say if you so easily just make things up.

[Swartzstrom]

If you lied so easily about something that no one cared about or made you look bad in any way what's to stop you from lying about almost everything you have said in this thread when most of it did make you look bad. Why should we trust anything you say if you so easily just make things up.

The simple fact that I don't like to lie at all would usually stop me. I never asked you to believe what I say, if you do, that's your problem. But the ability to tell the difference between truth and lie is apparently absent on this site.

[TheBlazedAce]

The simple fact that I don't like to lie at all would usually stop me. I never asked you to believe what I say, if you do, that's your problem. But the ability to tell the difference between truth and lie is apparently absent on this site.

First of all, this is all in writing. There is no facial expression or nervousness in your movement I can look for. The point is you lied about the emancipation, which didn't matter at all, but you want us to believe you about the other strangely unlikely not-lied about information.

[roody poo]

If you'd get rid of your argumentative ego, you'd know that.

LOL, if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black.

[Swartzstrom]

First of all, this is all in writing. There is no facial expression or nervousness in your movement I can look for. The point is you lied about the emancipation, which didn't matter at all, but you want us to believe you about the other strangely unlikely not-lied about information.

Fine, but note this: Other than this one time, have I given you any other reason for you not to believe me?

[Jeffery]

Only thing people here believe is that you are yet another little kid who has the world perfectly figured out, and take your own narrow view and declare it as fact upon all other persons.
Your repeated ignorance and declaration of "facts" have made people doubt everything you say, especially since you are a proven liar.

[Swartzstrom]

Only thing people here believe is that you are yet another little kid who has the world perfectly figured out, and take your own narrow view and declare it as fact upon all other persons.
Your repeated ignorance and declaration of "facts" have made people doubt everything you say, especially since you are a proven liar.

However, that is your problem if you chose not to believe a word I say, and not mine. If you don't believe anything I say, even if I'm telling the truth, what is the point of me bothering to try and give you facts about why I am the way I am?

[Jeffery]

There isn;t a point, because at no time did you say "This is the way i am." What you said was "This is the way all guys are." There is a big difference, and something you obviously haven't learned.

[Swartzstrom]

There isn;t a point, because at no time did you say "This is the way i am." What you said was "This is the way all guys are." There is a big difference, and something you obviously haven't learned.

I'm not even referring to the, "This is the way all guys are." post. What I'm talking about now has no connection to that. I'm saying that if I posted traits about myself truthfully, you wouldn't believe me.

Besides, I was serious when I said that I was curious to your reactions.

[Jeffery]

Why would someone trust you enough to believe you?

You are a proven liar. You took the basic trust people give one another, and smashed it away. Everything you say after that is bound to be taken skeptically.

[Swartzstrom]

Why would someone trust you enough to believe you?

You are a proven liar. You took the basic trust people give one another, and smashed it away. Everything you say after that is bound to be taken skeptically.

Nobody ever trusted a word I said to begin with. I was never noticed.

[Jeffery]

Maybe because you tried to hard.

[Swartzstrom]

Maybe because you tried to hard.

I try to make a contribution to a discussion, and I either get flamed, or ignored. Then when somebody says the same thing, they are agreed with by everyone else.

[dirka dirka]

I lied about the emancipation thing, and that's it. If you'd get rid of your argumentative ego, you'd know that.

ROFLMAO! No, you lied about that... yes. However your egotistical idiotic persona of men based on your arrogant view of life still proves you're an idiot. Saying it was a joke proves you are not willing to accept responsibility, and you are willing to hide your true self just to fit in. You need to quit, because you are in fact an idiot according to many people's views, and you have yet to prove us wrong... in fact, you've done nothing but prove us correct. Then the lie about being emancipated... why would you lie about that? Why, in gods name, would you lie about something so dumb. Being emancipated basically either means you were a complete idiot to your parents, or they were idiots to you. Thats a 50/50 chance that you were an idiot to your own flesh and blood... I don't even want to talk about this anymore. I believe I have said all of the above at least once before... I am tired of typing to you, because all it does is make me hate your unfathomable ignorance even more.

[Bottle]

ROFLMAO! No, you lied about that... yes. However your egotistical idiotic persona of men based on your arrogant view of life still proves you're an idiot. Saying it was a joke proves you are not willing to accept responsibility, and you are willing to hide your true self just to fit in. You need to quit, because you are in fact an idiot according to many people's views, and you have yet to prove us wrong... in fact, you've done nothing but prove us correct. Then the lie about being emancipated... why would you lie about that? Why, in gods name, would you lie about something so dumb. Being emancipated basically either means you were a complete idiot to your parents, or they were idiots to you. Thats a 50/50 chance that you were an idiot to your own flesh and blood... I don't even want to talk about this anymore. I believe I have said all of the above at least once before... I am tired of typing to you, because all it does is make me hate your unfathomable ignorance even more.
Summary of this post: You suck.

[meat.eater]

Now, for you High School young men and women. I have one sentence that pretty much sums up almost all High School relationships:
A High School Relationship will not last.


I just broke up with a girl because she was moving away. I've been with her nearing 4 years. I'm 16 years old, in case you want to know.

This whole thread would imply to a man looking for a serious relationship.

Holy shit. Headache. You sir, are a dumbass.

[dirka dirka]

Summary of this post: You suck.

Exactly, I just didn't want to say it without evidence. rep

[Bottle]

Rep from dirka? I think I'm going to be sick...

[dirka dirka]

... k, you're welcome

[Bottle]

;)

[dirka dirka]

:) :eek:

[meat.eater]

post whore[s]. Read my above post. its funny.

[dirka dirka]

lol, yea, I saw it. He contradicts himself without thinking to attempt to prove the point that is currently at hand.

[Swartzstrom]

ROFLMAO! No, you lied about that... yes. However your egotistical idiotic persona of men based on your arrogant view of life still proves you're an idiot. Saying it was a joke proves you are not willing to accept responsibility, and you are willing to hide your true self just to fit in. You need to quit, because you are in fact an idiot according to many people's views, and you have yet to prove us wrong... in fact, you've done nothing but prove us correct. Then the lie about being emancipated... why would you lie about that? Why, in gods name, would you lie about something so dumb. Being emancipated basically either means you were a complete idiot to your parents, or they were idiots to you. Thats a 50/50 chance that you were an idiot to your own flesh and blood... I don't even want to talk about this anymore. I believe I have said all of the above at least once before... I am tired of typing to you, because all it does is make me hate your unfathomable ignorance even more.

For one, my own flesh and blood doesn't give a damn about me. For two, I'll tell you again, I lied about one thing, and nothing else. If you don't believe me, then so be it; but don't go insulting me about things that you don't understand.

*Rubs forehead*
Listen, I don't feel like being aggrivated in this point in time of my life by people who don't know a damn thing about me. Since I can't just whoop your butt in real life, I'm going to have an extremely volatile temper everywhere else. Once again, I'm starting to lose my temper, and I cannot allow that to happen. Doing so could result in me going to Juvi.

[TheBlazedAce]

For one, my own flesh and blood doesn't give a damn about me. For two, I'll tell you again, I lied about one thing, and nothing else. If you don't believe me, then so be it; but don't go insulting me about things that you don't understand.

*Rubs forehead*
Listen, I don't feel like being aggrivated in this point in time of my life by people who don't know a damn thing about me. Since I can't just whoop your butt in real life, I'm going to have an extremely volatile temper everywhere else. Once again, I'm starting to lose my temper, and I cannot allow that to happen. Doing so could result in me going to Juvi.

I can just see Swartzstrom in court one day and when asked the reason for the crime the response is "I lost my temper" and when asked what caused him to lose his temper his response would be "I was being persecuted on an online forum."

[meat.eater]

People disagreeing with you on the internet puts you in Juvi?? Dude...seriously rethink your logic.

[Swartzstrom]

I can just see Swartzstrom in court one day and when asked the reason for the crime the response is "I lost my temper" and when asked what caused him to lose his temper his response would be "I was being persecuted on an online forum."

I get persecuted in real life at least 6X more than I have in all 3 dozen forums I'm in combined...and I'm the quiet one in school.

[dirka dirka]

For one, my own flesh and blood doesn't give a damn about me. For two, I'll tell you again, I lied about one thing, and nothing else. If you don't believe me, then so be it; but don't go insulting me about things that you don't understand.

I did not ask, nor care about your flesh and blood, I also did give that possibly in my post. How do I know you aren't lieing above? I don't, and considering you lied before, I am more apt to think you are a liar.

*Rubs forehead*
Listen, I don't feel like being aggrivated in this point in time of my life by people who don't know a damn thing about me. Since I can't just whoop your butt in real life, I'm going to have an extremely volatile temper everywhere else. Once again, I'm starting to lose my temper, and I cannot allow that to happen. Doing so could result in me going to Juvi.

Going to Juvi as a result of these forums... You can't even take responsibility for your own foreshadowed ideas...

Whats aggrivated? aggravated?

[TheBlazedAce]

I get persecuted in real life at least 6X more than I have in all 3 dozen forums I'm in combined...and I'm the quiet one in school.

If you want us to take pity on you now, we don't. Please give your definition for persecution because everyone is made fun of often and everyone goes through a little bit of "persecution" and 3/4 of the people on this forum are probably the quiet ones at school. Stop giving excuses for your life and start changing it. If you think describing why you are in a bad situation is going to help you get out of it you're in for another one of life's grand lessons. Complaining and whining does nothing. If you actually want to improve your life to a better status you and only you are going to be the one who can do it.

[meat.eater]

I get persecuted in real life at least 6X more than I have in all 3 dozen forums I'm in combined...and I'm the quiet one in school.

I just gotta say...Women shouldnt be your main concern in life right now.

EDIT: And most of the "quiet people" dont admit it.

To quote George Carlin: "Im willing to bet while you're watching the quiet ones, a noisy mother f**ker will f**king kill you!"

[Swartzstrom]

If you want us to take pity on you now, we don't. Please give your definition for persecution because everyone is made fun of often and everyone goes through a little bit of "persecution" and 3/4 of the people on this forum are probably the quiet ones at school. Stop giving excuses for your life and start changing it. If you think describing why you are in a bad situation is going to help you get out of it you're in for another one of life's grand lessons. Complaining and whining does nothing. If you actually want to improve your life to a better status you and only you are going to be the one who can do it.

Change it? You have no idea how much it's changed already. I won't go any farther now, for to do so would cause unbearable stress. I've got to take it one step at a time, otherwise I could lose it.

Women? They aren't even on my worry list. Not even close.

[dirka dirka]

hypocrite!

[meat.eater]

Women? They aren't even on my worry list. Not even close.

Whats the name of this thread again??

[TheBlazedAce]

Change it? You have no idea how much it's changed already. I won't go any farther now, for to do so would cause unbearable stress. I've got to take it one step at a time, otherwise I could lose it.

Women? They aren't even on my worry list. Not even close.

Take it from me. The closer you come to the bottom once you fall the stronger you become and having been one who's fallen many times I would say you should keep pushing it. Later on in your life you'll wish that you used up every moment more efficiently and will ask what if I had pushed myself harder then maybe I'd be somewhere much better today. You don't want a life of regret.

[Swartzstrom]

Whats the name of this thread again??

I know what the name of this thread is. However, not once did I state that I was interested in women at any point in this thread.

And I'm not saying I'm gay either. (I know Blazed or Bottle will come up some wierd post like that.)

[roody poo]

I know what the name of this thread is. However, not once did I state that I was interested in women at any point in this thread.

And I'm not saying I'm gay either. (I know Blazed or Bottle will come up some wierd post like that.)

I tried to positive rep ya just like I promised, however I was denied the chance.

Damn promises when you are drunk....what a chore.

[Bottle]

I know what the name of this thread is. However, not once did I state that I was interested in women at any point in this thread.
What are you saying, that you're gay?
I aim to please.

[TheBlazedAce]

What are you saying, that you're gay?
I aim to please.

Honestly, swartz, you brought attention to something that would have never happened had you not mentioned it. When was the last time someone on the forums was called "gay"?

[roody poo]

Honestly, swartz, you brought attention to something that would have never happened had you not mentioned it. When was the last time someone on the forums was called "gay"?

Actually I've been calling Frylock gay for months now. If you notice in his new signiture he insinuates that I am as well. Obviously we are trying to tarnish each other's image while all in good fun...although I think Swarts being gay was said in a much different tone than it relates to the mentioned situation.

I mean, not that this entire thread wasn't ignorant and the starter a complete douche bag...I just wanted to point out the answer to your question.

(I could insert the obvious joke about bottle's quote "aiming" however I will leave that to someoneelse that needs the practice.)

[Auriadizo]

Oh, so Swartz was actually serious when he said that he was going to post this...

He's not gay.I sure as hell wonder if he is, though...