PhotoShop Problems

[DARKSMILE]

Im having photoshop problems. whenever i try to RENDER somthing like clouds, diffrebce clouds, light glare....it says not enought RAM.

i deleted a whole bunch of stuff and added more memory. what shoul i do.

[Kyir]

im not sure RAM and memorie are the same but i suck with computers so...

[Godmic18]

BUY MORE RAM!!!!!

It's not the same as memory, so deleting things won't help. Don't run other programs at the same time as Photoshop if you would like to have more available RAM.

[DARKSMILE]

it says "not enough RAM(memory)"

and i dont run anything else while im in photoshop

[actgfin1234]

Ram is the amount of space for programs that are running. Deleting things will not help. If you want it to work, only use photoshop when nothing else is open. If that doesn't work, your computer is outdated, and has too low ram to use photoshop.

[DARKSMILE]

it used to work though. right wen i got it. but now it doesnt work. and photoshop is the only thing that is running

[dirka dirka]

Update the ram, however I doubt that will help considering it didn't come with enough to start with. Restart your comp, then try right when its rebooted. None of that works, new computer.

[Godmic18]

Just buy more RAM. A gig or 2 should do it easily.

[Blexican]

Im having photoshop problems. whenever i try to RENDER somthing like clouds, diffrebce clouds, light glare....it says not enought RAM.

i deleted a whole bunch of stuff and added more memory. what shoul i do.

go to banners thread, I can help you there.

[dirka dirka]

Just buy more RAM. A gig or 2 should do it easily.

That made me laugh, thats way more then enough. However I doubt his comp can handle it. There are max ram amounts. Plus the processor most likely sucks.

[Godmic18]

That made me laugh, thats way more then enough. However I doubt his comp can handle it. There are max ram amounts. Plus the processor most likely sucks.

OK, here's my solution for him. Go get a fully loaded Mac G-5. 8 gigs of RAM, 160 gigs(or more) of harddrive space. :cool:

EDIT: I'm a big fan of overkill.

[drakonfire]

click "Edit" go to prefs, from there you want to mess with your memory settings and your scratch disk settings, if you have a 2 or more drive system, make the scratch disk the one with the most free space, RAM settings i have at PS aloud to use 50% of my memory, of course i have 512 mg... how much do you have, do you even know?

[dirka dirka]

You guys seriously have NO idea what you are talking about.

OK, here's my solution for him. Go get a fully loaded Mac G-5. 8 gigs of RAM, 160 gigs(or more) of harddrive space. :cool:
EDIT: I'm a big fan of overkill.
That won't do ANYTHING, there is a max amt of ram allowed on a mother board.

click "Edit" go to prefs, from there you want to mess with your memory settings and your scratch disk settings, if you have a 2 or more drive system, make the scratch disk the one with the most free space, RAM settings i have at PS aloud to use 50% of my memory, of course i have 512 mg... how much do you have, do you even know?
He already said how much he has, nothing you said will help him with a low memory problem.

[Wayfaerer]

http://img236.exs.cx/img236/6800/grr5jn.jpg
Check out that funky Imageready CS error. Good thing I didn't uninstall 7.0 :cool:

[dirka dirka]

http://img236.exs.cx/img236/6800/grr5jn.jpg
Check out that funky Imageready CS error. Good thing I didn't uninstall 7.0 :cool:
LMFAO!

[Wayfaerer]

It worked for afew months, I guess Elmo got mad at me :(
(Yes this is a real error, I can't open IR CS)

[dirka dirka]

Reinstall? May not work. It looks like a hex for something like Trial out of time, or something like that.

[Liquid Swordsman]

New sig Wayf? :cool:

[Wayfaerer]

Well Photoshop CS still works, it's a mystery :confused:

[dirka dirka]

lol, crazy

[drakonfire]

He already said how much he has, nothing you said will help him with a low memory problem.

where did he ever say how much RAM he has? and scratch disks are used as a sub for RAM as far as i'm aware, so if he doesnt have his scratch disks set up, then low ram would be a problem, but if he DOES have them set up, it shouldnt be a problem in the first place, but mine defaulted to my C: drive which only has my OS on it and not much more space than that, causing it to run out and consequently i could do nothing in PS until i changed the scratch disk settings, just saying what worked for me is all

[dirka dirka]

where did he ever say how much RAM he has? and scratch disks are used as a sub for RAM as far as i'm aware, so if he doesnt have his scratch disks set up, then low ram would be a problem, but if he DOES have them set up, it shouldnt be a problem in the first place, but mine defaulted to my C: drive which only has my OS on it and not much more space than that, causing it to run out and consequently i could do nothing in PS until i changed the scratch disk settings, just saying what worked for me is all

Uhm, he only said it 3 times in the other thread that blex told him to go to. If he doesn't have scratch disks setup, photoshop wouldn't work at all ever, and they don't just decide to change randomly. Thats not the solution.

Edit: Plus, it would say scratch disks are full, there is a built in error for that.

[arendt]

Photoshop uses a scratch disk (i.e., temporary disk space used for storing data and performing computations) when there is insufficient RAM for image editing. When there is insufficient RAM and scratch disk space to perform image editing operations, Photoshop returns the error "Scratch disk is full."

A common cause of insufficient RAM is unnecessarily large files. The higher an image's resolution, the larger the file. The larger the file, the more memory Photoshop requires, and the more likely Photoshop's scratch disks will become full.

Photoshop uses the virtual memory swap file to swap parts of the application in and out of memory, but it doesn't use virtual memory for image editing operations. When virtual memory is insufficient, Windows retains large portions of Photoshop in RAM, which reduces the amount of RAM available for image editing. Increasing virtual memory frees up RAM for image editing. When Photoshop's Physical Memory Usage is set to 100%, there may not be enough RAM available to Windows to perform some operations (e.g., printing, scanning). For some image editing operations, Photoshop requires a considerable amount of available RAM and scratch disk space. To check memory use in Photoshop, open the Efficiency Indicator: Click the triangle at the bottom of the application window, and choose Efficiency from the pop-up menu. Photoshop displays the percentage of time it is using to perform an operation rather than reading or writing to the scratch disk. If the value is below 100%, Photoshop is using the scratch disk.

A lost cluster, or file allocation unit, is a file fragment that is no longer associated with the original file. When you save a file to disk, the file isn't always written contiguously to the hard disk. The FAT (File Allocation Table) links the end of one file fragment with the beginning of the next one. When the FAT loses file fragment links, the result is a lost cluster. The Scandisk utility and CHKDSK command repair or remove lost clusters, while defragmenting rearranges the files and free space on your computer so files are stored in contiguous units and free space is consolidated in one contiguous block.

The Photoshop preferences file stores location and content information about Photoshop settings. Photoshop creates a preferences file during startup. When the information contained in the preferences file is damaged, Photoshop may return the error, "Scratch disk is full." Deleting the preferences file and restarting Photoshop forces Photoshop to create a new preferences file that contains default preferences settings and updated plug-in folder and file information.

To increase the amount of virtual memory available to Windows:

-- For Windows XP:

Note: You must be logged in as Administrator to change the size of the paging file.

1. Exit from open applications.

2. Choose Start > Settings > Control Panel.

3. Double-click System.

4. Click the Advanced tab, and then click Settings in the Performance section.

5. Click the Advanced tab, and then click Change in the Virtual Memory section.

6. From the Drive list, select a hard drive that has at least twice the amount of the computer's installed RAM. To determine the amount of space available on a drive, click the drive letter; the amount of space available appears in the Paging File Size for Selected Drive section.

7. In the Initial Size text box, enter a value equal to the amount of the computer's installed RAM plus 12 MB.

8. In the Maximum Size text box, enter a value equal to twice the amount of the computer's installed RAM.

9. Click Set, and then click OK to close the Virtual Memory dialog box.

10. Click OK when Windows returns the alert "The changes you have made require you to restart your computer . . . ."

11. Click OK to close the Performance Options dialog box, and then click OK to close the System Properties dialog box.

12. Click Yes in the System Settings Change dialog box. Windows restarts.

-- For Windows 2000:

Note: You must be logged in as Administrator to change the size of the paging file.

1. Exit from open applications.

2. Choose > Start > Settings > Control Panel.

3. Double-click System, click the Advanced tab, and then click Performance Options.

4. Click Change in the Virtual Memory section.

5. From the Drive list, select a hard drive that has at least twice the amount of the computer's installed RAM. (To determine the amount of space available on a drive, click the drive letter; the amount of space available appears in the Paging File Size for Selected Drive section.)

6. In the Initial Size text box, enter a value equal to the amount of the computer's installed RAM plus 12 MB.

7. In the Maximum Size text field, enter a value equal to twice the amount of the computer's installed RAM.

8. Click Set, and then click OK to close the Virtual Memory dialog box.

9. Click OK to close the Performance Options dialog box, and the System Properties dialog box.

10. Click Yes in the System Settings Change dialog box to restart Windows.

-- For Windows Me or Windows 98:

1. Exit from open applications.

2. Make sure a startup disk is available before you continue. After you change system settings, such as Virtual Memory, Windows may be unable to start, so you may need a startup disk to start Windows. For instructions to create a startup disk, see the documentation for Windows.

3. Choose Start > Settings > Control Panel.

4. Double-click System.

Note: If the System Control Panel doesn't appear in Windows Me, click View All Control Panel Options in the Control Panel window.

5. Click the Performance tab, and then click Virtual Memory.

6. Select the Let Me Specify My Own Virtual Memory Settings option, and then click OK.

7. From the Hard Disk pop-up menu, choose a hard disk that has at least twice the amount of the computer's installed RAM. For example, if the computer has 24 MB of RAM, choose a hard disk that has at least 48 MB of free hard disk space.

8. In both the Minimum and Maximum boxes, enter a value equal to twice the amount of the computer's installed RAM.

9. Click OK to close the Virtual Memory dialog box. The Confirm Virtual Memory Setting dialog box displays the message "You have chosen not to let Windows manage virtual memory automatically. . . ."

10. If you have a startup disk, click Yes to close the Confirm Virtual Memory Settings dialog box.

11. Click Okay to close the System Properties dialog box.

12. To restart Windows, click Yes in the System Settings Change dialog box. If Windows doesn't restart, insert the startup disk, and restart Windows.

[dirka dirka]

First off, you copy and pasted that whole thing. Second, that wasn't the problem(I sait it again), we fixed the problem.

[arendt]

First off, you copy and pasted that whole thing. Second, that wasn't the problem(I sait it again), we fixed the problem.

Of course I copied the whole thing. I thought that you'd already embarrassed yourself to such an astounding degree with your original post that I wouldn't add to your shame by POSTING A LINK TO THE F***ING MANUAL.

Thank God you've managed to fix the problem; I was driving myself crazy trying to think of possible solutions (google came to mind) to this Riemann's hypothesis of error messages.

[xerent]

How do you know you fixed it? I haven't heard a resolution yet?

Also, arendt posted the most helpful thing here, copied or not.

DARKSMILE: If photoshop ran ok when it was first installed, but now does not, and gives you 'Insufficent RAM' messages... it leads me to believe that you do indeed have more programs running, even if you can't find them in the taskbar. Several malicious programs and virii can be running in the systems background, taking up CPU cycles and memory, which in turn causes a lower system performance, and may result in these error messages.

While purchasing more RAM might be a viable solution, the fact remains that at one point it did work, and it does not work now. The cheapest solution, whilst retaining pretty much all of your data, would be to run some programs (all available for free) to check for, and fix such programs that might be causing these problems. You'll need these programs to do the best job.

- Any up to date Anti-Virus. (Although I personally don't like McAfee or Norton, they work as well. If you don't have one, you can download a free one by doing a google search on 'AVG Antivirus'. If you don't feel like downloading a program, or for whatever reason you can't, you can do a free online virus check at housecall.trendmicro.com

- Spybot Search and Destroy. Also a free program. Do a google search on it.

- Ad-aware. I think they're up to version CS. This is also free, do a google search.

When you install those three programs, make sure you UPDATE them first, then run them. This ensures that the programs are checking for the most recent files and programs that could be slowing your system down. Be sure to fix / delete / quaranteen any items it finds.

When you finish with that, go to Add/Remove programs, and Remove any programs you don't want or need. Some programs load certain utilities at start up, even malicious ones that may slow down system processes. You won't be able to find these utilities running in the Taskbar either.

Finally, when that is done, do a system reboot, and download and run HijackThis. This is a program that largely targets processes that may hijack your web browser, but it also shows all processes that are loaded on startup, as well as a load of other things. You most likely won't know what to do here, so create and save a 'Log File'. Do a google search on HijackThis forums, and post that Log File there. There are people who will look over that log file (again, for free), and tell you step by step how to further clean your system.

From there, attempt to run your Photoshop program again, you should be able to do with it what you please. If you cannot, well... I can't really help you beyond that point. Good Luck!

[dirka dirka]

Xerent, blex brought it to another thread. We fixed it in that thread. Spyware most likely isn't the problem, we looked at his ram usage. His ram was being used up in some other way, like it didn't dump. The scratch disks wern't the problem(this is how I know) because Photoshop has its own error for scratch disks are full, it reads "Scratch Disk is Full".

Edit: I just did a trial test. With 256MB Ram I can create a sun(photoshop 800x800 file, big) without any problem even with memory.

I am almost 1000% sure his memory was just not dumping correctly. If he did what I said, turned the computer off, took the memory out, turned it on. Waited for it to do nothing for about 30 seconds, turned it back off. Put the memory back in, turn it back on. This will ensure the memory dumped correctly.

[xerent]

You DO actually know what a dump is?

All a Dump does is take the contents of memory, and put it into a file so a tech or analyst can view it and try to determine what went wrong. This happens in response to something going wrong, and will not be the source of a problem itself.

And I seriously that if Memory passes POST, and the OS can boot off it, that the problem was fixed by reseating it, or by 'cleansing' it out. Memory transistors require a constant supply of power to maintain data, and if that power is interrupted for only a few milliseconds, then memory data is erased.

[dirka dirka]

Yea, however, I had a situation with my computer not to long ago where when it shut off, it was really still giving power to everything, Unplugging it would also work.

Something I said worked, so obviously I was going down the right path. It was most likely him just rebooting.

[xerent]

Yea, however, I had a situation with my computer not to long ago where when it shut off, it was really still giving power to everything, Unplugging it would also work.

You're telling me your computer was turned off, but the fans were still spinning?

[dirka dirka]

You're telling me your computer was turned off, but the fans were still spinning?

Well, no. All of my fans are tied into the 3pin motherboard plugs. However when I cut one of the wires coming from the PS, I shocked myself. There was still power to all the drives and cathods.

Edit: Thats how I learned to unplug the computer and make sure its off.

[xerent]

If your fans were turned off, then it wasn't giving power to everything. If it was, then your components would have overheated to the point of breakdown.

All ATX motherboards still draw a minimal amount of power from the power supply, even when turned off, but RAM is still erased.

[Popa Midnight]

lol ive been electrocuted before 2.But i was wet that time.I have a scar down my chest to prove it....Damn extension cord :mad:

[dirka dirka]

If your fans were turned off, then it wasn't giving power to everything. If it was, then your components would have overheated to the point of breakdown.

All ATX motherboards still draw a minimal amount of power for the power supply, even when turned off, but RAM is still erased.


Well then, I stand correct, not everything.