Who do you think is the Greatest Old School Video Game Character of all Time?

[Swartzstrom]

For me, I voted Solid Snake.

EDIT: METROID IS SAMUS!

[Ignition]

clearly mario

[Swartzstrom]

clearly mario

:rolleyes:

[Godmic18]

Pac Man.

[ArcPaladinZero]

Why is Metroid on there? Do you mean Samus?

[Lordofzrings]

crap i didnt see sonic, o well,, mario is just as cool

[Swartzstrom]

Why is Metroid on there? Do you mean Samus?

Yeah, Samus. Sorry, I keep forgetting the main character's name is Samus.

[Zeratul]

Samus is sweet I vote for her.

[Mithrandir]

Mario. No contest.

[.Vash.]

Mario duhh, even tho metroid was rght behind mario on atrie(i have no clue how to spell im to lazy to look lol.)but ya mario was first.

you also no elco the dolphin didnt come out till sega right?

and link came out right before nentindo came out.

Also soild snake didnt come out till nentindo to lol.

I play games way to much >_<

[Shiny Flors]

What about Donkey Kong?

[kvon78]

mario is over rated and is hooked on heroine!
Soinic obviously pwns the §h1t out all the rest of those "old schoolers"
i love sonic and mega man with a passion, dont belive me? go to my site: www.freewebs.com/kvon78 .

[Metal Gear Ray]

Fox.

[kvon78]

cloud strife :p .

[*The Nothing*]

Mega Man = pwnage. :)

[Swartzstrom]

Also soild snake didnt come out till nentindo to lol.

Wrong. The original Metal Gear came out on the MGX System in Japan. Therefore, Solid Snake is the oldest one up there.

[The Cheat]

Mario, end of story.

[Revenge]

Sonic has my vote.

[Wayfaerer]

Mario what?

Mario World 3 for sure :cool:

[Cavour]

Where the hell's mah boy Magus? :mad:

[Warcow]

Where the hell's mah boy Magus? :mad:
erjglkjHDSLJKhrfl`jk1hlkhouiqW8971!!!!!11

CAV! You read my mind!!!!

Magus is the single greatest video game character of all time!

I just bought Final fantasy anthologies which comes with it :D, so I've been doing a little CT'ing myself.

Dark Matter f00!

[Cavour]

erjglkjHDSLJKhrfl`jk1hlkhouiqW8971!!!!!11

CAV! You read my mind!!!!

Magus is the single greatest video game character of all time!

I just bought Final fantasy anthologies which comes with it :D, so I've been doing a little CT'ing myself.

Dark Matter f00!
Dude, Chrono Trigger is the sickest RPG ever. And that only helps to solidify Magus's place as sickest game character of all time! :cool: SNES fo' life!

[Warcow]

Dude, Chrono Trigger is the sickest RPG ever. And that only helps to solidify Magus's place as sickest game character of all time! :cool: SNES fo' life!

So true, right now I am going through as quickly as I can and with fighting as few battles as I can. I beat magus at level 17 :eek: It was quite difficult.

[Hellblazer]

Metroid All The Way!!!!!! :)

[Wayfaerer]

Dude, Chrono Trigger is the sickest RPG ever. And that only helps to solidify Magus's place as sickest game character of all time! :cool: SNES fo' life!

Super Mario RPG pwns it nub :D

[Moose]

Agreed

Mario 4-ever


Moosey

[Jeffery]

Mario what?

Mario World 3 for sure :cool:
Wayf, this is for game character, not specific game itself. Mario is the answer for any of the Marios from any of the Nintendo games.

[Speed Demon]

Mario was the start of Video Games. With out Mario we'll still be watching the birds fly. :rolleyes:

[kvon78]

oh my...where is bomber-man? life wouldnt be worth living if bomber-man wasnt real...even looking at birds would be lame.

[ck1]

Bomberman kills birds!

And steals lollipops from children!

!!!!!!!

P.S. Go Mario.

[kvon78]

thats kirby you nimrod!-yet another neglected old schooler. :(

[Swartzstrom]

I should never have put Mario up there. Solid Snake isn't getting many votes. Mario must be overrated like whoa. <<Always wanted to say that. :cool:

[zzzaacckk]

what about link/Zelda but ya Mario for sure.

[Swartzstrom]

what about link/Zelda but ya Mario for sure.

Zack, you say one more thing about Mario, and I'll smack the Stewie-sized head off your shoulders. :dry:

[TheBlazedAce]

True Old School = Mario.

It is the first character in a video game I ever played and probably the first for most.

[kvon78]

the first video-game was pong...so i nomimate the dot from pong without whom mario wouldnt exist...o0o :p

[actgfin1234]

I'm not voting.

Earthworm Jim isn't on there. He's the coolest, no doubt. :cool:

[Swartzstrom]

Errmmm... I would have put most of those people up there...it's just that...you can only use 10 Options..

Doesn't anybody know who Chuck D. Head is?

[Serge]

I know who Chuck D. Head is, and he's not old-school. He was only in one game. That's also why whoever said Cloud should be smacked. I'd say the same for Cav and Cow, but Magus was pretty damn cool. :P

Oh, I vote for Mario.

[The Cheat]

Solid Snake=over-rated.

[Swartzstrom]

Pullease, most people didn't know who Solid Snake was until Metal Gear Solid, and especially Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. I was with Snake from the start of his career.

And Chuck D. Head is old-school. He was only in one game, but he's an old video game character. DeCapAttack was awesome.

[Liquid Swordsman]

Vector Man :cool:

VectorMan (http://www.gamasutra.com/db_area/images/features/19990604/vectorman2box.jpg)

[The Cheat]

ALL stealth games=crap therefore ALL games with Solid Snake=crap :D :bigsmile: :D :bigsmile:

[Liquid Swordsman]

And you forgot the ninja from the old Shinobi games! What is wrong with you!

[Swartzstrom]

ALL stealth games=crap therefore ALL games with Solid Snake=crap :D :bigsmile: :D :bigsmile:

Oh, wait, you have to think in Stealth Games...therefore, you would suck at stealth games, wouldn't you? :bigsmile:

[The Cheat]

Stealth games are boring. Why would I want to hide behind a box in the dark and very slowy kill a foe, when I can shoot him in the face with a Rocket Lancher?

[Swartzstrom]

You have your gaming preferences, and I have mine. But you CAN play Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, and Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty with all guns blazing. It's quite hard to do, though.

[The Cheat]

You have your gaming preferences, and I have mine. But you CAN play Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, and Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty with all guns blazing. It's quite hard to do, though.


That's my point. You HAVE to use stealth to win. I hate stealth games just as much as I hate RPG's.

[Wayfaerer]

And you forgot the ninja from the old Shinobi games! What is wrong with you!

There's old Shinobi games? The nub from Ninja Gaiden rocked on a different note :cool:

[Swartzstrom]

That's my point. You HAVE to use stealth to win. I hate stealth games just as much as I hate RPG's.

You don't HAVE to use stealth to beat the game. How do I know? I've used stealth ONCE. Every other time, I run in with all guns Blazin'. It's still hard and I've beaten the game quite a few times.

[max2k106]

Stealth is always fun in a game, because it challenges you. If you can just run through endlesly with auto-aim and cause ruckus and raise people's remodeling bills with your automatic, that challenges you about as much as adding 2+2. That's why all the James Bond games got boring after the first few came out . . .except multiplayer, well, it sucks now. Multiplayer on "Nightfire" is as good as James Bond multiplayer has ever been. After that, it went downhill . . . no, downcliff.

Oh, and it's clearly the Italian plumber . . . I mean COME ON!!! How genius do you have to be to make a whole multi-million empire off of an Italian plumber?

[kvon78]

the italian plumber sucks compared to ecco, i mean dolphin v.s midget with a mustache...no contest.

[Liquid Swordsman]

There's old Shinobi games? The nub from Ninja Gaiden rocked on a different note :cool:

Oops, that's what I meant to say. I was looking at my Shinobi game when I was typing :confused:

Unless it really was an old game, it mite have been, not 100% sure.

[tyu]

There are Ninja Gaiden games on the Nintendo system

[GreenS@murai!]

Ecco the dolphin! Yeah im the only one who voted for the fishy so far

[max2k106]

Nintendo blows hobbit wanker now . . . all their games are crap and the little discs for GC . . . could they be ANY SMALLER? :bad:

[kvon78]

i hate the GC all together, the ps2/ps/psp is the only REAL quality game station out there :cool:

[max2k106]

i hate the GC all together, the ps2/ps/psp is the only REAL quality game station out there :cool:

I'm guessing you own any of the mentioned Sony products. Overall, I'd have to agree that PS2 is the best game console to buy for those who are not sure of what they want in video games and just want a little bit of everything. GC is for family games where parents know no-matter what the kids buy, the closest thing to an "M" rating it's going to get is "Mantoucheswoman" :confused:

XBox is a system for people who know what they like, and if what they like happens to be on XBox, then thats what they get. But overall, nothing is better than the PC . . . no little "auto-aim" thingies for those joysticks on controllers, only mouse and keyboard, that's how games were meant to play (except DDR of course :p )

[kvon78]

GC is for family games where parents know no-matter what the kids buy, the closest thing to an "M" rating it's going to get is "Mantoucheswoman" :confused:

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to max2k106 again.

grr! :mad:

[Terps rock]

Earthworm Jim? Crash Bandicoot? and Sub-zero(definatly most known mk guy)

[max2k106]

I hate Jim . . . Crash ate my mangos (that damn bandicoot!), and Sub-Zero wont give my fridge back . . .

[VoodoVince]

Donkey Kong is cool and mario they are my favorites.:bigsmile:

[Liquid Swordsman]

Earthworm Jim? Crash Bandicoot? and Sub-zero(definatly most known mk guy)


Scorpian pwns Sub-Zero so bad.

[Serge]

i hate the GC all together, the ps2/ps/psp is the only REAL quality game station out there :cool:
Yeah, Sony rocks so hard their systems fall apart with record speed. I have a video to show you, I'll have to host it it'll take a minute or two.

[Warcow]

Frogger :cool:

[Serge]

I'm guessing you own any of the mentioned Sony products. Overall, I'd have to agree that PS2 is the best game console to buy for those who are not sure of what they want in video games and just want a little bit of everything. GC is for family games where parents know no-matter what the kids buy, the closest thing to an "M" rating it's going to get is "Mantoucheswoman" :confused:

XBox is a system for people who know what they like, and if what they like happens to be on XBox, then thats what they get. But overall, nothing is better than the PC . . . no little "auto-aim" thingies for those joysticks on controllers, only mouse and keyboard, that's how games were meant to play (except DDR of course :p )
You don't own a Gamecube do you? I have Resident Evil 4 here that would like to argue your M rating claim. He says he earned his M rating with the "man touches woman's face with 12-gauge" approach. I also have Time Splitters 2 and Time Splitters: Future Perfect, but they'll wait their turn since they can be found on other systems while RE4 can't.

The only _good_ argument against the GC is the slightly, _slightly_ smaller collection of games it has then the Xbox. (Yes, the PS2 has a MUCH larger collection of games, but it was out for a much longer time.)

Side Note: Liquid, Vector Man is awesome. He's better than half the people in the poll.

[Liquid Swordsman]

Frogger :cool:


Pff, you wish.

[Liquid Swordsman]

Side Note: Liquid, Vector Man is awesome. He's better than half the people in the poll.


Word, someone here knows what they are talking about :cool:

[Warcow]

You don't own a Gamecube do you? I have Resident Evil 4 here that would like to argue your M rating claim. He says he earned his M rating with the "man touches woman's face with 12-gauge" approach. I also have Time Splitters 2 and Time Splitters: Future Perfect, but they'll wait their turn since they can be found on other systems while RE4 can't.

The only _good_ argument against the GC is the slightly, _slightly_ smaller collection of games it has then the Xbox. (Yes, the PS2 has a MUCH larger collection of games, but it was out for a much longer time.)

Side Note: Liquid, Vector Man is awesome. He's better than half the people in the poll.

Serge what you don't realize is that max is spreading his communist propaganda. He has a hidden agenda you see, the playstation was actually created by the commies, and built in is a mind control device. Once they sell enough, and we all become mindless pixel addicted zombies, they will begin another arms race, only this time they will have the funds from the PS2's to help drive their war, rather than just vodka sales.

[Godmic18]

Vector Man :cool:

VectorMan (http://www.gamasutra.com/db_area/images/features/19990604/vectorman2box.jpg)


Hell yes. I forgot about him. I was playing that a few weeks ago, too.

[Liquid Swordsman]

Word, I just dug out my Sega version a few days ago. What a classic.

[Cavour]

SNES > Sega

[Godmic18]

Word, I just dug out my Sega version a few days ago. What a classic.

I was playin it on my compy. A friend of mine has this CD full of old original Sega games.

[Serge]

Proof of Sony's pwnage.

http://img124.exs.cx/img124/7250/psp5am.gif

[Serge]

SNES > Sega
Overall, yes; but there were some Sega games that pwned the HELL out of all but the best SNES games.

[Liquid Swordsman]

Yah, like the old school Lion King game.

Owned :cool:

[Godmic18]

Proof of Sony's pwnage.

http://img124.exs.cx/img124/7250/psp5am.gif


Is it..... shooting the disc out DURING gameplay??

That's pretty sweet. I'm goin' to buy one just to shoot the disks at my roommate. :cool:

[Blexican]

Mario set the stardard for the best games I think now. It was the ultimate classic. I mean you shoot fireballs from your hands!!!!

[Serge]

Is it..... shooting the disc out DURING gameplay??

That's pretty sweet. I'm goin' to buy one just to shoot the disks at my roommate. :cool:
Yeah apparently if you 'twist' the console, (i.e. press up and X at the same time with too much force) it would cause the disc to eject. Also, units were purchased with a large amount of dead pixels on the screen. And the Square button isn't very consistent because the sensor is under only the right side of the button.

Also, through all this Sony kept an awesome policy, they weren't going to fix the ejection or square button problem as to them it wasn't a problem. And half of the screen would have to be covered by dead pixels for them to replace it.

[Liquid Swordsman]

So, basically, the PSP is a piece?

[Godmic18]

Well that sucks. I'll wait until they come out with a better version, like the they did with the PS2. Or I'll just stick to the PC, the best gaming machine in existance.

[Liquid Swordsman]

The PS3 controller is hideous.

[Warcow]

Yeah apparently if you 'twist' the console, (i.e. press up and X at the same time with too much force) it would cause the disc to eject. Also, units were purchased with a large amount of dead pixels on the screen. And the Square button isn't very consistent because the sensor is under only the right side of the button.

Also, through all this Sony kept an awesome policy, they weren't going to fix the ejection or square button problem as to them it wasn't a problem. And half of the screen would have to be covered by dead pixels for them to replace it.

I don't know, that looks pretty fake to me.

I'd have to see that one to believe it. As for the square button being only on one side of the button? No way, they wouldn't have done that, it lacks a point.

[Serge]

So, basically, the PSP is a piece?
From what I've heard, but I don't actually own one so I can't make a fair judgement.

[Serge]

I don't know, that looks pretty fake to me.

I'd have to see that one to believe it. As for the square button being only on one side of the button? No way, they wouldn't have done that, it lacks a point.
I've heard that the eject thing is true, I think Sony even put out a press release about it. As for the Square button thing, it's true, the sensor is just to the right of where it should be, because the button is too close to the screen and Sony refused to make the system wider.

[Warcow]

I've heard that the eject thing is true, I think Sony even put out a press release about it. As for the Square button thing, it's true, the sensor is just to the right of where it should be, because the button is too close to the screen and Sony refused to make the system wider.

Well, unless the button doesn't work 99.9% of the time, which I am sure it does, it wont have any effect on anything, so the quality of the system remains the same.

If the disc thing is true, then it must happen so rarely that it isn't worth issuing a recall, which means the chances of it happening to you are roughly that of having your toaster explode.

[Godmic18]

I'd get annoyed if either of those things happened once.

[Serge]

Like I said, I don't own one, so I can't make any kind of judgement.

[TheBlazedAce]

I'm guessing you own any of the mentioned Sony products. Overall, I'd have to agree that PS2 is the best game console to buy for those who are not sure of what they want in video games and just want a little bit of everything. GC is for family games where parents know no-matter what the kids buy, the closest thing to an "M" rating it's going to get is "Mantoucheswoman" :confused:

XBox is a system for people who know what they like, and if what they like happens to be on XBox, then thats what they get. But overall, nothing is better than the PC . . . no little "auto-aim" thingies for those joysticks on controllers, only mouse and keyboard, that's how games were meant to play (except DDR of course :p )

None of you know (Lack of cursing word insurted here). Honestly, your only beef with GC is that the discs are small (It's to prevent piracy. The idea is genius and Sony and X-box will regret not doing it themselves). My friend took apart and put back together all the systems and he told me his analysis. Ever notice how GC has ABSOLUTELY NO LOADING TIME while PS2 comes in second with a lot of loading time and X-box serves them both by having enough loading time to grab a snack and come back down before it's done. GC, unlike PS2 and X-box, is built as a game-system only and not a computer. PS2 and X-box are built very similar to your PC, which is why you can get an x-box modded so easily with extra memory in places like Chinatown, NY. GC has dual graphic cards 32 and 64 (the biggest reason why it has no loading time) and is built specifically for gaming. If you ever got an emulator for PS2 or X-box it would work fine, but GC emulators are practically out of the question because it just wouldn't work as well and the lag would be ridiculous.

The only thing X-box has that people "claim" is that they say it has better "graphics" to make up for its ludicrous loading times, which is why if you really like sports games only, which come out on all systems, so I never saw a real reason to use this as your reason to pick one over another, then X-box isn't a horrible choice. The other thing is X-box Live (PS2 has online capabilities as well), but in my opinion it's not too big a deal (again it's more for sports gamers and I guess for Halo, the only game I would say is above par that is only for the X-box).

PS2 has a few games that other systems don't have and this is mainly because they were the first system to come out practically a year before the other two. That was a great choice. Now they have San Andreas and Final Fantasy games (both of which are spreading to other systems now because it would make them more money) so PS2 is going to lose the only advantage it has in the next system upgrades, which are within the next year probably.

Game Cube is arguably the best System because of the hardware and the gargantuen amount of games made only for Game Cube that are amazing.

I would pick PS2 next and I would say X-box is one of the worst systems to have ever been dreamt.

[Godmic18]

It's not necessarily about load times times and graphics in my opinion. Gamecube just doesn't have the game selection and targets younger audiences. Personally I don't have a favorite system other than the PC. I play all of them interchangeably and they aren't any different in my mind except for the lack of games that I like. Graphics doesn't necissarily make a game if it's fun as hell to play.

[TheBlazedAce]

It's not necessarily about load times times and graphics in my opinion. Gamecube just doesn't have the game selection and targets younger audiences. Personally I don't have a favorite system other than the PC. I play all of them interchangeably and they aren't any different in my mind except for the lack of games that I like. Graphics doesn't necissarily make a game if it's fun as hell to play.

I completely agree with you and you're actually supporting me. People argue that GC has the worst graphics of the three and most of the time the argument back at that is that graphics don't make a game. I disagree that gamecube targets younger audiences, only a few of their games do just like a few of the games on every system will target younger audiences.

Edit: Loading times do make a huge difference. I love the fact that every time I turn on the GC it works almost instantly while if I want to play my PS2 I have to turn it, go do something else, come back, usually click another button like start or load specific game and then go do something else and then play.

[Godmic18]

I suppose. Th e only beef I have with GC is Metroid. The controls are so wonky I just can't handle it. It's one of the few shooters I just didn't have the patience to beat.

[TheBlazedAce]

I suppose. Th e only beef I have with GC is Metroid. The controls are so wonky I just can't handle it. It's one of the few shooters I just didn't have the patience to beat.

I myself am not a video game nut who owns all games on all systems or anything like that. Sorry, I haven't played any of Samus' games. I hear only the best things about the game though and you're probably the first person to not like it. Controls just take getting used to.

I still don't see why you have a beef with an entire system over one game.

[Godmic18]

Not the entire system. Just metroid.

[Swartzstrom]

I'm guessing you own any of the mentioned Sony products. Overall, I'd have to agree that PS2 is the best game console to buy for those who are not sure of what they want in video games and just want a little bit of everything. GC is for family games where parents know no-matter what the kids buy, the closest thing to an "M" rating it's going to get is "Mantoucheswoman" :confused:

XBox is a system for people who know what they like, and if what they like happens to be on XBox, then thats what they get. But overall, nothing is better than the PC . . . no little "auto-aim" thingies for those joysticks on controllers, only mouse and keyboard, that's how games were meant to play (except DDR of course :p )

Um..did you know that, in bits, frame-rate per second, and other graphical things, GameCube has more of those than PS2 or X-Box could ever hope to have. I looked all these things up. GC is a quality system to those who want quality games. Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Star Wars: Rouge Leader, Phantasy Star Online: Episode 1&2.

Also, the Square-Enix blowout continues to become larger and larger. When Nintendo Revolutions (The next Nintendo's codename,) becomes available, Final Fantasy games will be produced on Nintendo's consoles. Final Fantasy XI will be placed on the GameCube and have full Online capabilities. The same will be put for the new Nintendo Console. Nintendo is on the verge of taking over gaming completely, and with Square-Enix on their side, it's going to be hard has hell to take them out.

[TheBlazedAce]

None of you know (Lack of cursing word insurted here). Honestly, your only beef with GC is that the discs are small (It's to prevent piracy. The idea is genius and Sony and X-box will regret not doing it themselves). My friend took apart and put back together all the systems and he told me his analysis. Ever notice how GC has ABSOLUTELY NO LOADING TIME while PS2 comes in second with a lot of loading time and X-box serves them both by having enough loading time to grab a snack and come back down before it's done. GC, unlike PS2 and X-box, is built as a game-system only and not a computer. PS2 and X-box are built very similar to your PC, which is why you can get an x-box modded so easily with extra memory in places like Chinatown, NY. GC has dual graphic cards 32 and 64 (the biggest reason why it has no loading time) and is built specifically for gaming. If you ever got an emulator for PS2 or X-box it would work fine, but GC emulators are practically out of the question because it just wouldn't work as well and the lag would be ridiculous.

The only thing X-box has that people "claim" is that they say it has better "graphics" to make up for its ludicrous loading times, which is why if you really like sports games only, which come out on all systems, so I never saw a real reason to use this as your reason to pick one over another, then X-box isn't a horrible choice. The other thing is X-box Live (PS2 has online capabilities as well), but in my opinion it's not too big a deal (again it's more for sports gamers and I guess for Halo, the only game I would say is above par that is only for the X-box).

PS2 has a few games that other systems don't have and this is mainly because they were the first system to come out practically a year before the other two. That was a great choice. Now they have San Andreas and Final Fantasy games (both of which are spreading to other systems now because it would make them more money) so PS2 is going to lose the only advantage it has in the next system upgrades, which are within the next year probably.

Game Cube is arguably the best System because of the hardware and the gargantuen amount of games made only for Game Cube that are amazing.

I would pick PS2 next and I would say X-box is one of the worst systems to have ever been dreamt.

Um..did you know that, in bits, frame-rate per second, and other graphical things, GameCube has more of those than PS2 or X-Box could ever hope to have. I looked all these things up. GC is a quality system to those who want quality games. Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Star Wars: Rouge Leader, Phantasy Star Online: Episode 1&2.

Also, the Square-Enix blowout continues to become larger and larger. When Nintendo Revolutions (The next Nintendo's codename,) becomes available, Final Fantasy games will be produced on Nintendo's consoles. Final Fantasy XI will be placed on the GameCube and have full Online capabilities. The same will be put for the new Nintendo Console. Nintendo is on the verge of taking over gaming completely, and with Square-Enix on their side, it's going to be hard has hell to take them out.

I completely agree with you and thanks for the info. I also can't wait till your prediction comes true. I've been a true nintendo fan through and through and I know very well how amazing all of their systems have been. They deserve it too and it makes sense they are the best. They are the only game-system only company unlike Sony and Microsoft. This way they think of so much and their customer service is arguably better then any of the others. Game-systems is nintendo's pride and joy, their life and purpose. Next Console for nintendo will rock this world and blow the others leaving them to "bite the dust".

[Zeratul]

ahh ya the GC with pwn, whip own, you name it they will do it!

[Swartzstrom]

I completely agree with you and thanks for the info. I also can't wait till your prediction comes true. I've been a true nintendo fan through and through and I know very well how amazing all of their systems have been. They deserve it too and it makes sense they are the best. They are the only game-system only company unlike Sony and Microsoft. This way they think of so much and their customer service is arguably better then any of the others. Game-systems is nintendo's pride and joy, their life and purpose. Next Console for nintendo will rock this world and blow the others leaving them to "bite the dust".

Here's the lowdown on hand-held consoles.

PSP=DVDs, Games, Internet
DS=True video game PWNage

Honestly, just because the PSP can do all that doesn't make it better. True video gamers wouldn't give a *bleep* about all that extra *bleep* if they really gave a *bleep* *bleep* about being the best *bleep* gamer they can possibly *bleep* be. All you *bleep* GameCube haters need to get off what you hear and play some of the good *bleep* games. Nintendo isn't only a kiddie system. It has Resident Evil. If you have Resident evil, then you can't be a kids-only system.

You see what the *bleep* I'm saying?

[TheBlazedAce]

Just a comment about Final Fantasy since it was the leverage PS2 had the "experiment" I believe Final Fantasy did was make "Chrystal Chronicles" for the gamecube and I believe they were very happy with the results. When I heard of it coming out I almost knew emmediately they were going to switch over in the next system. I saw something on tech-tv once about Final Fantasy and why they switched to PS and they said it was because of the 3-D capabilities it held, since it came out so early and they stuck with it for PS2. From observation we can see now I don't think PS3 will be coming out any sooner then the other systems (because they just made their handheld) and hopefully once Final Fantasy reverts to Gamecube it'll be spectacular.

[GerudoCentury]

Here's the lowdown on hand-held consoles.

PSP=DVDs, Games, Internet
DS=True video game PWNage

Honestly, just because the PSP can do all that doesn't make it better. True video gamers wouldn't give a *bleep* about all that extra *bleep* if they really gave a *bleep* *bleep* about being the best *bleep* gamer they can possibly *bleep* be. All you *bleep* GameCube haters need to get off what you hear and play some of the good *bleep* games. Nintendo isn't only a kiddie system. It has Resident Evil. If you have Resident evil, then you can't be a kids-only system.

You see what the *bleep* I'm saying?


Yes, you're *bleep* correct, but the only problem I see with DS is that it's going to be another few months before they make a completely innovative game. The system is innovative, but the games all seem to be too similar. There was one game that I saw in NP magazine that looked really good. I think it may have been a sequal to the Gameboy game, Survival Kids. You play a person that's been trapped on a deserted island and you need to use resources on the island to survive. I forget the name of it, but it may be one of my most anticipated games announced on the DS.

And I can't wait for Zelda GCN to be released. Have you seen the latest trailer? I haven't, but I've seen the screens.

[TheBlazedAce]

Yes, you're *bleep* correct, but the only problem I see with DS is that it's going to be another few months before they make a completely innovative game. The system is innovative, but the games all seem to be too similar. There was one game that I saw in NP magazine that looked really good. I think it may have been a sequal to the Gameboy game, Survival Kids. You play a person that's been trapped on a deserted island and you need to use resources on the island to survive. I forget the name of it, but it may be one of my most anticipated games announced on the DS.

And I can't wait for Zelda GCN to be released. Have you seen the latest trailer? I haven't, but I've seen the screens.

The DS is coming out with super smash brothers, which will be online soon enough!!!! I would so get that if that's true.

[max2k106]

Um..did you know that, in bits, frame-rate per second, and other graphical things, GameCube has more of those than PS2 or X-Box could ever hope to have. I looked all these things up. GC is a quality system to those who want quality games. Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Star Wars: Rouge Leader, Phantasy Star Online: Episode 1&2.

Also, the Square-Enix blowout continues to become larger and larger. When Nintendo Revolutions (The next Nintendo's codename,) becomes available, Final Fantasy games will be produced on Nintendo's consoles. Final Fantasy XI will be placed on the GameCube and have full Online capabilities. The same will be put for the new Nintendo Console. Nintendo is on the verge of taking over gaming completely, and with Square-Enix on their side, it's going to be hard has hell to take them out.

Too bad they don't put their "good-graphics" abilities to good use ;) .

But let's not take my opinion, lets look to the general public of the US. PS2 has been out for . . .what . . . 4-5 years now? The cost of a brand new PS2 is around $150. The Game Cube has been around a lot shorter than the PS2, and now it is selling for $100 . . . clearly, they could not sell enough at a higher price because the general public did not enjoy it.



Anyways, I'm done here, this thread is turning into trash.

[TheBlazedAce]

Too bad they don't put their "good-graphics" abilities to good use ;) .

But let's not take my opinion, lets look to the general public of the US. PS2 has been out for . . .what . . . 4-5 years now? The cost of a brand new PS2 is around $150. The Game Cube has been around a lot shorter than the PS2, and now it is selling for $100 . . . clearly, they could not sell enough at a higher price because the general public did not enjoy it.



Anyways, I'm done here, this thread is turning into trash.

That's horrible reasoning Max. It makes just enough sense for me to say this:

"let's not take my opinion, lets look to the general public of the US. PS2 has been out for . . .what . . . 4-5 years now? The cost of a brand new PS2 is around $150. The Game Cube has been around a lot shorter than the PS2, and now it is selling for $100 . . . clearly," a lot more Game Cubes are being sold because it is a much more popular game and therefore they can sell more for less and attract even more people. In fact, what I said makes a whole lot more sense since in competition the more succesful companies will sell their product for less to shut out the other competitors. The only time you increase your price is if you're not selling enough and therefore are not making profit selling at the current price.

Edit: how is this thread turning into trash? Is it becuase the people you're arguing with are backing up what they say with facts and reason?

[Blue Mage]

Mario!!!!!!!!!!

[Swartzstrom]

Too bad they don't put their "good-graphics" abilities to good use ;) .

But let's not take my opinion, lets look to the general public of the US. PS2 has been out for . . .what . . . 4-5 years now? The cost of a brand new PS2 is around $150. The Game Cube has been around a lot shorter than the PS2, and now it is selling for $100 . . . clearly, they could not sell enough at a higher price because the general public did not enjoy it.



Anyways, I'm done here, this thread is turning into trash.

Nintendo is selling GamCubes for $100 in order to sell more products. GameCube has sold more systems than XBox and PS2 combined.

[TheBlazedAce]

Nintendo is selling GamCubes for $100 in order to sell more products. GameCube has sold more systems than XBox and PS2 combined.

Swartz, can you give me a source for that? Not because I doubt what you say, but because I'd like to have it for my own reference.

[Auriadizo]

Mario!!!!!!!!!!

That's my avatar. Find your own.

[Auriadizo]

Swartz, can you give me a source for that? Not because I doubt what you say, but because I'd like to have it for my own reference.

Okay, maybe not combined, but Gamecube has sold a hell of a lot more units than PS2.

http://hankfiles.pcvsconsole.com/answer.php?file=270

[TheBlazedAce]

Okay, maybe not combined, but Gamecube has sold a hell of a lot more units than PS2.

http://hankfiles.pcvsconsole.com/answer.php?file=270

Did you check the worldwide stats? 20 million for PS2. Wow. Obviously understood since they came out so much earlier then the other two though.

[Jeffery]

Okay, maybe not combined, but Gamecube has sold a hell of a lot more units than PS2.

http://hankfiles.pcvsconsole.com/answer.php?file=270
As of the end of the year 2001, 3rd party figures give the following estimates for units sold in North America since each launch.

* PlayStation2: 8 million
* Xbox: 1.3 to 1.5 million
* GameCube: 1.2 to 1.3 million

Worldwide estimated unit sales:

* PlayStation2: 20 million
* Xbox: 1.3 to 1.5 million (so far only released in North America)
* GameCube: 1.8 to 2.0 million

From your very own link.....
How is 1.8 to 2.0 more than 20? or 1.2 to 1.3 more than 8?

[kvon78]

haha jeff you rock! playstation will always own other consouls(sp???) and some people a.k.a GC users just cant handle it. :)

[Jeffery]

PS2 came first, and pulled with it the very large base of being reversed engineered to play PS1 games.
GC has the advantage of having the very large base of Nintendo games, and loyal customers.
Xbox has the much smaller game and player base because it is the newest to the industry, but has the most powerful game processor of any of the units.

Simply put, each has it;s own advantages/disavantages.

[The Cheat]

I think the PS2 is the greatest but whatever. I have played a DS and PSP and have NO desire to buy either one. Both are wayyyyyyyyyyyyy to expensive for a hand held system. I'll just same my money for the next console to come out.

[Lordofzrings]

psp isnt worth it, even though it also plays MP3's?

[GerudoCentury]

The DS is coming out with super smash brothers, which will be online soon enough!!!! I would so get that if that's true.

I thought I'd read that somewhere, but I'm not sure. I hope they add some new characters instead of just duplicating others (ie Fox/Falco, Marth/Roy, Mario/Dr. Mario, Captain Falcon/Ganondorf, Pikachu/Pichu, and any others that I may have missed). I need Diddy Kong. And Jeff from Earthbound. And Ganon instead of Ganondorf. And maybe Sonic now that Nintendo owns him. Maybe Marche from FFTA. And...any others that I may have missed.