Grand Duel of Luck

[abyaly]

I've noticed that most of your tournaments are trying to measure TAO skill, when that is only about 2/3 of the game. This tournament is meant to measure luck, prescience, and telepathic manipulation of fate.

Here is how it works:
There are 3 legal formations for this tourney. You may change out your formation between games.

-----K----- -----E----- --P-----P--
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You may have noticed that these formations make for very one-sided games when set against each other--that was my grand scheme. So, if you can predict the formation your opponent will use against you (and use the one that beats it), you will win. If you both happen to pick the same one, fate takes over. Do I have any volunteers? You can either volunteer willingly or be volunteered by someone else; it's all the same to me.



Combatant list thus far
Jeffery
emerald slasher
DARKSMILE
max2k106
Geeky_Bastard
I BEAT MATHEWS
steve12

[Tag Captain]

It should be knight, chanty, and scout. 2 pyros can beat a knight if they get a few blocks. Scout always beats chanty so long as he doesn't move and shoot.

Anyway, nice sarcastic thread.

*close*

[abyaly]

You, 2 pyros can not beat a knight that runs around to their back; count it up - it takes 5 hits for them to kill him and 2 each for him to kill them; then factor in recovery times and walking distance. Press the issue and I'll PM you purdy drawlings of each turn's move.

Also, a scout could try to press it's back to a wall, and sheerly out-luck the knight.
The scout could lose the enchantress if they make the -most common- scout vs chanty mistake.

Please think things out before trying to correct other people.



Additionally, this is NOT a sarcastic thread. I expect people to sign up for this, even if I have to drag them to this thread by their collar.

[Jeffery]

So it's a rock scissors paper contest?

Toss me in. I'll bribe the devil for more luck.

[abyaly]

Precisely. It requires keen psychological insight.

[emerald slasher]

sure wat the hell

[monkus]

True luck forms:

1 dragon, frontrow // 1 enchantress, front row // 2 witches, back row

[DARKSMILE]

I am in

[abyaly]

True luck forms:

1 dragon, frontrow // 1 enchantress, front row // 2 witches, back row
The near nil benefits of using that system do not outweigh the costs.

[DARKSMILE]

when does the tourney start'

[abyaly]

That will be decided when the tourney has people in it.

[max2k106]

Ooh, ooh! I'm in :)

[Geeky_Bastard]

im in

i cant beleive you just said that to bottle lol... and 2 pyros CAN beat a knight :)

[xyxaxyz2]

im in

i cant beleive you just said that to bottle lol... and 2 pyros CAN beat a knight :)

Not if you play with any degree of skill.

[Moose]

Not if you play with any degree of skill.


xyx? Get back on ur Mod Account!

[abyaly]

im in

i cant beleive you just said that to bottle lol... and 2 pyros CAN beat a knight :)
Bottle has a bad habit of disagreeing with me on tactical issues. And being wrong.
Geeky, are you taking me up on my offer for the drawings?

[Tag Captain]

2 pyros CAN beat a single knight. It's very unlikely, but possible. You'd need about 2 or 3 blocks at the right time, which isn't exactly unheard of. The pyros need 5 hits, so 1 as soon as it comes into range, it moves up and attacks, 1 straight after. Without moving, pyros have recovery 2. So if the pyro blocks the front shot, it gets another shot in. Then the other pyro gets another shot in. If the remaining pyro blocks a side shot, he will survive long enough to kill the knight. Unlikely but possible.

Bottle has a habit of arguing on tactical issues and being wrong, but Tag Captain doesn't :)

[abyaly]

The knight doesnt even need ro risk a single blockable attack to win. Play it if you like; I'll give pyros first move.

[Geeky_Bastard]

if u only go for back shots the knight will definitely lose

[I BEAT MATHEWS]

ummm...... sign me up! :)

[abyaly]

if u only go for back shots the knight will definitely lose
Pick your server, boy. You will need to live with me being right eventually, and you will learn to like it.

[Geeky_Bastard]

gl, banff, or army im everywhere :aggress:

[Blexican]

Blexican , army.

[Lonely Tylenol]

gl, banff, or army im everywhere

I'll save you the time. Abyaly's right. The two Pyromancers, combined, would get four attacks, which is 44 HP damage. The Knight would live with six HP.

[Tag Captain]

Not if the pyros stayed together on the back rank. That way there is ALWAYS a chance they may block because only the sides will be exposed. And if the pyros get 2 blocks, they will win. It's unlikely but it's POSSIBLE.

Of course, the pyros would not go out to fight the knight, that would indeed be suicide. But if the knight attacks, as it must (otherwise the pyro player will force the 30-turn draw), then the chance of blocking comes into effect.

Abyaly, play me on Banff (or in-forum again), and IF we presume that my pyros block the first 2 shots that they CAN block I'll prove that the pyros beat your knight.

[Geeky_Bastard]

you only need 1 pyro block, but bottle the way the setup is you cant run to the back

he beat me with 6 hp left on his knight after i beat a 1400+ SIer :cool:

[abyaly]

Not if the pyros stayed together on the back rank. That way there is ALWAYS a chance they may block because only the sides will be exposed. And if the pyros get 2 blocks, they will win. It's unlikely but it's POSSIBLE.

Of course, the pyros would not go out to fight the knight, that would indeed be suicide. But if the knight attacks, as it must (otherwise the pyro player will force the 30-turn draw), then the chance of blocking comes into effect.

Abyaly, play me on Banff (or in-forum again), and IF we presume that my pyros block the first 2 shots that they CAN block I'll prove that the pyros beat your knight.
The pyros do not start on the back row. If you waste the attacks available to you so that you can retreat, you only lower the chance of your opponent screwing up and losing. This is not a general "1 knight vs 2 pyros" match. This has a very specific layout. If the pyros each run to their closest wall (on opposite sides!), then they will be seperated and I doubt even 2 blocks would save them. But, since the probability of even getting 2 side blocks is so low, there is a more than 50% chance that your "potential" event wont happen at all in the tourney; and if it does, there is still no guarantee that the person playing pyros when it happens will have reasoned this out enough to deal with it properly. I'll give you the off chance that someone is dumb enough to go for frontal hits and that they end up losing - big whoop. If the pyro player is lucky enough to get the right blocks and the right opponent, they clearly deserved to win, anyway.


If you like, I can play a game against you, too. Hell, just form a single file line, children - class is in session.

Better yet, you can enter the tourney and test out your theory against the people you play. Who knows? You may just luck out.

[Terps rock]

True luck forms:

1 dragon, frontrow // 1 enchantress, front row // 2 witches, back row


make it frosty and its all luck

[steve12]

i like it, count me in :bigsmile:

[Geeky_Bastard]

this is basicly rock paper scissors lol