View Full Version : Bushido Gaiden vs. † Hells Angels †
DARKSMILE
05-11-2005, 06:32 PM
POSTPONED
† Hells Angels †
Leader: PhillySoul29
Guard: Batosi
Guard: Chair_Reloaded
Bushido Gaiden
Leader: Monkus
Guard: tyu (out)
Guard: zzzaacckk
† Hells Angels † Casualties:
death spawn69 by berz
DARKSMILE2 by Cavour
Titanium by tyu
1eyedjack by LonelyTylenol
envy by BlazedAce
Punisher by chaln
sweetelf144 by wolf-boy
degeshr by wolf-boy
Vad by ULLR
Greyfox
† reb †
sensai
Joe
carlos22 by -slyer4-
death spawn69 by andalite
Jean Paul by Dragoen Link
Life Sucks by LonelyTylenol
Bushido Gaiden Casualties:
sanity by batosi
Berz by chaos_knight
Kyir by Chair_Reloaded
tyu by Big X
Rfournier by metro156
LonelyTylenol by Dragon Knight
|_ancer Knight by chaos_knight
noble-knight by chaos_knight
ULLR by Twizted Freak
spitfire101 by NR Leader
Manonfire101 by 23collector
Dragoen Link by Chair_reloaded
sk8 24/7 by Chair_reloaded
DKR war rules
monkus
05-11-2005, 06:52 PM
Third time. I'm amazed.
Mithrandir
05-11-2005, 06:58 PM
Surely you jest.
monkus
05-11-2005, 07:00 PM
http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?p=407561#post407561
Let's make this one a comedy act :bigsmile:
DARKSMILE
05-11-2005, 07:32 PM
we dont care wat u say monkus, HA has grown, and we are better.
Cube Insomniac
05-11-2005, 07:55 PM
Go Bushido Gaiden GO!
steve12
05-11-2005, 07:57 PM
um, ya go BG, but im in AL, so am i on HA's side? im confused. :confused: :confused: .... monkus, cum back, dont retire, pleez... :bigsmile:
greendaybum5
05-11-2005, 08:05 PM
lol just think....i'm here we'll win haha, no worries BG is weak we got this, rising to top clan on GL btw monkus i wasnt here for the first one plus 3rd times the charm
Lonely Tylenol
05-11-2005, 08:08 PM
um, ya go BG, but im in AL, so am i on HA's side? im confused.
Solution's simple, join me.
:p
Good luck, to both clans. I think we will be staying out of this, although I have allowed my members to join for the war as they please.
monkus
05-11-2005, 08:18 PM
Solution's simple, join me.
:p
Good luck, to both clans. I think we will be staying out of this, although I have allowed my members to join for the war as they please.
After all we've been through? You're just abandoning me? :crybaby:
Lonely Tylenol
05-11-2005, 08:28 PM
After all we've been through? You're just abandoning me?
:( Umm, no.
Actually, we are currently preparing for a war of our own, and cannot afford to divide our attention... Or much of our members... At all.
Guess you're getting Mithrandir out of us, though. Treat him well. :bigsmile:
Cavour
05-11-2005, 10:03 PM
My God... a third time?! Lucky for you persistent little buggers, quite a lot of our more dominant players aren't playing right now. That might be why you're trying AGAIN. You think you'd just go for some other clans occasionally, but whatever. Guess we're just that cool. :cool: I'm barely ever on lately, but I'll try to sneak on and participate a little.
DARKSMILE
05-11-2005, 10:08 PM
After all we've been through? You're just abandoning me? :crybaby:
lonely would join HA anyways.
Specialist
05-12-2005, 01:13 PM
lonelytylenol will be fighting against HA,o well.
greendaybum5
05-12-2005, 01:40 PM
Cav with anyone playing from BG who used to besides wayf we'd still win :).... uhh what else did you say, o other clans, there aren't many other clans that will even go to war with us. There are only about 4-5 true strong clans on GL and one doesnt war.
btw who are leader and guards?
Cavour
05-12-2005, 02:35 PM
Cav with anyone playing from BG who used to besides wayf we'd still win :)....
Yeeeaaah, that would make sense considering Tuna knocked you out our last war, and I'm 2-0 with you. I don't know who's taking the positions, I'm not active right now, so along with a heavy coating of rust is a heavy coating of ignorance to the position holders.
DARKSMILE
05-12-2005, 05:12 PM
I still dont know who BGs guards and leader are.
MtSlayer
05-12-2005, 05:50 PM
....You guys really need to learn when to stay down, jesus christ.
monkus
05-12-2005, 06:01 PM
Considering no one else has said anything, leadership:
leader: me. Yes, i'll take a break from retirement to help Bg.
guards: tyu and wolf-boy. Let's see how our new leaders do.
MinishSprite
05-12-2005, 06:02 PM
can i join bg?
monkus
05-12-2005, 06:17 PM
Until you beat a guard, we do reserve the right to change them though, as long as one isn't in a game or being challenged at the time. That was just so the war can get on meanwhile.
zzzaacckk
05-12-2005, 06:18 PM
minish you can fight for us and find someone in the lobby to try out. BG members just concentrate on killing their guards... if it comes down 2 it ill play on my grey and ill see if I can repeat my gold killing performance on the grey phone.
greendaybum5
05-12-2005, 06:26 PM
lol monkus hopefully we'll get a leader vs leader battle.....zzzaacckk just remember that if you're on your gold we can challange
Red Fire
05-12-2005, 06:30 PM
I'll come back from retirement to help. Is this gonna be another friendly war, or cut throat war? And plus I can't be on as often as I usually was. So I may be on like once a day, but I could still get a battle in :cool: Rusty though... :(
-Red
MtSlayer
05-12-2005, 06:37 PM
*marches in hoisting a bloody body bag over his shoulder and slams it on the ground with a thud*
First Victim (http://img145.echo.cx/img145/1662/deathspawn691ce.jpg)
Gray v gold
zzzaacckk
05-12-2005, 06:39 PM
looks like i have some grey vs gold war competition.
MtSlayer
05-12-2005, 07:06 PM
http://img138.echo.cx/img138/9033/keihonvsvengeance1yo.jpg
http://img138.echo.cx/img138/356/keihonvsvengeance24fp.jpg
http://img138.echo.cx/img138/9805/keihonvsvengeance38zb.jpg
Whats the ruling on this? Keihon sent BG these.
I lost to chaos_knight in a gray vs gold battle, as he is a gray-gold.
finalfantasyt
05-12-2005, 07:11 PM
http://img138.echo.cx/img138/9033/keihonvsvengeance1yo.jpg
http://img138.echo.cx/img138/356/keihonvsvengeance24fp.jpg
http://img138.echo.cx/img138/9805/keihonvsvengeance38zb.jpg
Whats the ruling on this? Keihon sent BG these.
I lost to chaos_knight in a gray vs gold battle, as he is a gray-gold.
Vengeance was away for a moment, Keihon thought he was ignoring him. Misunderstanding.
And Batosi beat me earlier.
Specialist
05-12-2005, 07:11 PM
Batosi killed Sanity
chaos_knight killed Berz
23COLLECTOR killed manonfire101
MtSlayer
05-12-2005, 07:15 PM
If he was away for a moment then why did he just ignore him again?
http://img226.echo.cx/img226/920/keihonvsvengeance43ck.jpg
http://img226.echo.cx/img226/7084/keihonvsvengeance55ad.jpg
monkus
05-12-2005, 07:17 PM
Vengeance was away for a moment, Keihon thought he was ignoring him. Misunderstanding.
And Batosi beat me earlier.
a moment = understandable, coincidence.
Two such moments =ridiculous. Vengeance is avoiding challenges. Give him his wish. He's out.
finalfantasyt
05-12-2005, 07:18 PM
Hmm...that's weird. I asked him for a game and he said something about barbeque steaks... :huh:
Edit: 1,700th post. :cool:
MtSlayer
05-12-2005, 07:20 PM
I want every HA member dead from a match, but I also want to make sure that people aren't just pretending to be away.
can i come in jsut for fun? please, pretty please, ill play nice :p
greendaybum5
05-12-2005, 07:27 PM
how do we know keihon was an ally....he isnt in any ally clan....
I think the elite might be comming in on BG's side, ill have to talk with Chaosti
and monk. told me to post this
http://img192.echo.cx/img192/435/untitled3copy9xw.jpg
it went on for like 3 minutes, i dont know why i posted
DARKSMILE
05-12-2005, 07:48 PM
I think the elite might be comming in on BG's side, ill have to talk with Chaosti
and monk. told me to post this
http://img192.echo.cx/img192/435/untitled3copy9xw.jpg
it went on for like 3 minutes, i dont know why i posted
kyir, u rnt in BG, so it doesnt matter. and elte isnt an allie yet
monkus
05-12-2005, 07:49 PM
kyir, u rnt in BG, so it doesnt matter. and elte isnt an allie yet
Read my other thread. He's an ally. So it does count. Anyone that wants to play on BG's side is an ally. IT's time we taught you HA guys a lesson to stop making a war every time you feel like it.
i lost anyway, damn rushers :dry:
8 stats.... :(
anyway, was i jsut accepted as a ally, casue i lsot bout a min ago
MinishSprite
05-12-2005, 08:07 PM
Read my other thread. He's an ally. So it does count. Anyone that wants to play on BG's side is an ally. IT's time we taught you HA guys a lesson to stop making a war every time you feel like it.
im in it cause.....because....well i dont no
finalfantasyt
05-12-2005, 08:18 PM
Bushido Gaiden Casualties:
finalfantasyt by batosi
sanity by batosi
Berz by chaos_knight
DKR war rules
Umm...just so you know, I am Sanity. ;)
Lonely Tylenol
05-12-2005, 08:29 PM
lonelytylenol will be fighting against HA,o well.
Yeah, but you did get my apprentice, Apocalypse. I trained him good, so don't complain. :p
Cavour
05-12-2005, 08:33 PM
how do we know keihon was an ally....he isnt in any ally clan....
'Cause he said he was in the lobby. :p
Also, glad to have you on our side LT. :)
Tyu defeats Titanum
http://img185.echo.cx/img185/3218/win7ag.jpg
Cavour
05-12-2005, 08:59 PM
Well I beat Darksmile. That's good enough for tonight. Seeya.
DARKSMILE
05-12-2005, 09:01 PM
Vengeance vs. MokoToko
Draw
Lonely Tylenol
05-12-2005, 09:06 PM
I was beating Life Sucks in a freestyle match when he "had to go". Dinnertime.
I'm going to rematch him, with our remaining units.
He has:
~1 Scout
~2 Knights
~1 Mud Golem
~1 Dragon Tyrant
~1 Poison Wisp
And I have:
~2 Scouts
~2 Knights
~1 Mud Golem
~1 Dragon Tyrant
~1 Poison Wisp
~1 Golem Ambusher
Cavour
05-12-2005, 09:09 PM
I was beating Life Sucks in a freestyle match when he "had to go". Dinnertime.
I'm going to rematch him, with our remaining units.
He has:
~1 Scout
~2 Knights
~1 Mud Golem
~1 Dragon Tyrant
~1 Poison Wisp
And I have:
~2 Scouts
~2 Knights
~1 Mud Golem
~1 Dragon Tyrant
~1 Poison Wisp
~1 Golem Ambusher
Life is playing on HAs side? :huh:
zzzaacckk
05-12-2005, 09:10 PM
ur up a full scout and a busher... he left its ur win...thats just my oppinion...
Spit_101
05-12-2005, 09:12 PM
The monkus says I can ally you guys. Who wants a taste of my powerturtle?
Chaosti
05-12-2005, 09:15 PM
As far as I can remember, BG and The Elite have always been allies. We give our full support, such as it is, to Bushido Gaiden in this war.
Lonely Tylenol
05-12-2005, 09:29 PM
ur up a full scout and a busher... he left its ur win...thats just my oppinion...
:) This is true. However, according to DKR's rules, a rematch can occur WITH my consent.
Right now, he has a Knight with 10 HP and a Scout with 10 HP, both on recovery, and I have a Knight with 39 HP. It looks like I'll be winning this, if I have any ounce of skill whatsoever.
EDIT: I won. :) LonelyTylenol beats Life Sucks by a 39 HP Knight.
Good game, dude. Well fought.
Red Fire
05-12-2005, 09:58 PM
Good ol' Elite, we love you so.....
-Red
Lonely Tylenol
05-12-2005, 10:09 PM
LonelyTylenol beats 1eyedjack by 8 units. :)
Total kill count: 2
Specialist
05-12-2005, 10:10 PM
If he was away for a moment then why did he just ignore him again?
http://img226.echo.cx/img226/920/keihonvsvengeance43ck.jpg
http://img226.echo.cx/img226/7084/keihonvsvengeance55ad.jpg
Morgan,chill out little man. Isn't your mommy calling you?
Red Fire
05-12-2005, 10:11 PM
So uh LT, is this an LT vs HA war or BG vs HA war?
-Red
Lonely Tylenol
05-12-2005, 10:20 PM
So uh LT, is this an LT vs HA war or BG vs HA war?
-Red
BG vs. HA.
I'm just along for the ride. :bigsmile:
Specialist
05-12-2005, 10:21 PM
Tyu was taken out by Big X
Rfournier is out,died at the hands of Metro156
Lonelytylenol took out 1eyedjack for Bg
Cavour
05-12-2005, 10:21 PM
Woot. Nice going on both of those LT! I didn't know Life was even on HA's side... He's a tough opponent too. :)
Red Fire
05-12-2005, 10:27 PM
Another question:
Is this like a 1 night war, everyone is getting taken out tonight... why can't we prolong this war? Want to get the pain over with fast eh HA? lol
-Red
Cavour
05-12-2005, 10:29 PM
What the hell? X is on HA's side?? :mad: Did Tyu know this before the game?
Red Fire
05-12-2005, 10:31 PM
This is why we need to state allies before wars guys, READ THE RULES OF WAR!!!!
And if that rule isn't in there, ADD IT!!!
-Red
Cavour
05-12-2005, 10:33 PM
This is why we need to state allies before wars guys, READ THE RULES OF WAR!!!!
And if that rule isn't in there, ADD IT!!!
-Red
Seriously. At least have the decency to post your allies before they start fighting our guards. :rolleyes:
Red Fire
05-12-2005, 10:35 PM
lol, good point, btw can they attack our guards already? Isn't there a rule they have to elminate a certain amount Cavv? Or am I thinking of Cephas's GGL War?
-Red
Cavour
05-12-2005, 10:38 PM
There's a rule about that in the DKR Rules, which we're supposedly going by, but whatever. If they aren't telling us who's on their side, why go by real War rules anyway?
So right now it's kind of HA and ViS vs. BG, The Elite, and a couple AKs?
Specialist
05-12-2005, 10:39 PM
Monkus and most of you guys are complaining about 3 wars. Well if I recall correctly,the first time Bg and us warred ,we were KoTR.
A month ago we were bored and asked you guys for a friendly "clan competition".
So,in retrospect,this is actually the "1st" real cut throat war between BG and HA. Am I not correct?
Red Fire
05-12-2005, 10:40 PM
Worst put together war ever.
But still The Elite alone will kill HA (heck even us alone) with AK/AL and The Elite, we'll pwn all of GL, netjak better watch out dudes, lol
-Red
EDIT: KoTR WAS HA!!!!! Dude you get some new recruits, same ol clan though, we got new recruits only difference is we didn't have to change our clan name.
-Red
Cavour
05-12-2005, 10:41 PM
Monkus and most of you guys are complaining about 3 wars. Well if I recall correctly,the first time Bg and us warred ,we were KoTR.
A month ago we were bored and asked you guys for a friendly "clan competition".
So,in retrospect,this is actually the "1st" real cut throat war between BG and HA. Am I not correct?
Nope. You're not. But you're an odd bird if you don't count the first too, because HA was KoTR, and a friendly "clan competition" is a war. It's just on a lighter note.
Lonely Tylenol
05-12-2005, 10:43 PM
LonelyTylenol loses to Dragon Knight by a 25 HP Knight, thus ending his killing spree at a meager two kills.
Very good game, Dragon Knight, fitting that one of my bretheren in the clan should be the one to do me in. :) Good luck, BG.
If this doesn't do us good in terms of clan reputation (Knocking out two members on HA side, then being killed by my own clan member), I don't know what will. Better watch out, BG members, and HA, treat him well for the rest of the war. :)
EDIT:
But still The Elite alone will kill HA (heck even us alone) with AK/AL and The Elite, we'll pwn all of GL, netjak better watch out dudes, lol
AL is in favor of HA.
For AK, I told my members they can join whichever side they chose. Mithrandir and I decided to fight for BG, Dragon Knight for HA. I think some others did too, but they haven't made any effort to say it.
Red Fire
05-12-2005, 10:45 PM
We'll cut his throat and return his corpse to you via UPS, okay LT?
-Red
Cavour
05-12-2005, 10:47 PM
My God. AL and DK too? This is starting to look like the First Great GL War. O_O
Mithrandir
05-12-2005, 10:48 PM
I'm surprised HA had the nerve to try.
Red Fire
05-12-2005, 10:49 PM
*Grabs calendar* *Marks date* Now if only those lazy netjakers were involved.... I say we gangbag them!
-Red
Cavour
05-12-2005, 10:50 PM
I'm surprised HA had the nerve to try.
I'm surprised they had the nerve to recruit half the server and set two Legenders as guards. :rolleyes:
Speaking of Netjak, Red... I wonder if I could enlist the help of a couple of em. The more clans on the HA Allies list, the more tempting it is to try. :)
Red Fire
05-12-2005, 10:52 PM
I'm sure some of em would go for it. Most of them respect BG
-Red
Lonely Tylenol
05-12-2005, 10:56 PM
My God. AL and DK too? This is starting to look like the First Great GL War. O_O
Ugh! First Great GL War and I go down with only TWO KILLS? How depressing... I'm such a noob! :crybaby:
finalfantasyt
05-12-2005, 10:57 PM
Ugh! First Great GL War and I go down with only TWO KILLS? How depressing... I'm such a noob! :crybaby:
Well, at least you did better than me! I didn't even get one kill! :(
TheBlazedAce
05-12-2005, 11:04 PM
I beat envy grey on grey. Big X is big I hear, this war is becoming fun. :D
Hatchet Warrior
05-12-2005, 11:16 PM
Why dont you send someone from bg to ask nj......
You can count Dk out of this. :cool:
Specialist
05-13-2005, 12:36 AM
Why dont you send someone from bg to ask nj......
You can count Dk out of this. :cool:
Dk is still in,you hatchet asked him for a "fun" game on his grey. It wasn't until you were winning that you decided it was for the war. So nope sorry,DK is still in. :dry:
Envy is out by blazed aces.
PUNISHER is out,chaln got him
Lonely Tylenol
05-13-2005, 04:56 AM
Dk is still in,you hatchet asked him for a "fun" game on his grey. It wasn't until you were winning that you decided it was for the war. So nope sorry,DK is still in.
Assuming he's telling you the truth... He's got you there, Hatchet. You have to make sure it's known as a war game beforehand.
This had better not become a big, important war. :mad: If you guys make this a Great War, I'm going to single handedly massacre the whole lot of you, for waiting to make this happen until AFTER I'm killed.
:dry: Post 999. Maybe if I leave my P/C like this for awhile, I'll scare some anti Christs. :p
bludhoundz
05-13-2005, 05:46 AM
Something weird is going on with X atm...hes in ViS, not SI on GL, so theres a little confusion on the SI forums (last I checked). Even if he is on that side of the war, thats what monkus is for(if anyone gets through to him). And if I pop up with a gold, I may be able to solve that problem as well :D
Hoolwath
05-13-2005, 06:02 AM
Nice. So greys can fight too, right?
And also do mind and refresh the first page. It should be a nice list in the end.
Cavour
05-13-2005, 07:12 AM
PUNISHER is out,chaln got him
Woot. Go Chaln!
This had better not become a big, important war. :mad: If you guys make this a Great War, I'm going to single handedly massacre the whole lot of you, for waiting to make this happen until AFTER I'm killed.
:dry: Post 999. Maybe if I leave my P/C like this for awhile, I'll scare some anti Christs.
:p
And if I pop up with a gold, I may be able to solve that problem as well :D
Ooh! Do it up. You have access to one, right? :cool:
Nice. So greys can fight too, right?
'Course!
wolf-boy
05-13-2005, 09:58 AM
well bg leaders knocked out sweetelf144, shes an allie to HA, so I eliminated him/her.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/metro156/sweetelf.bmp
i also just eliminated degeshsr
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/metro156/degesh.bmp
and greyfox is out
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/metro156/greyfox.bmp
and so is † reb †
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/metro156/reb.bmp
sensai has been pwned
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/metro156/sensai.bmp
joe has been mutilated
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/metro156/joepwn.bmp
on -slyer4-'s behalf (carlos22 is dead)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/metro156/bigwin.bmp
Cavour
05-13-2005, 12:01 PM
Wolf-boy is no longer guard, as he wants to go all out, rather than be cautious about having us lose a guard. I'll post the new Guard soon. I'm not positive on who it is yet.
Specialist
05-13-2005, 12:52 PM
A changing of the guard ,so to speak. How do you figure that's fair? In our recent skirmishes,PhillySoul29 was our guard and he was dropping you guys like flies until Tuna stopped him.We didn't post anything about changing the guard or you guys would have had a fit!
This is just another "blatant" case of BG trying to write their own rules again.
And you're comments on bringing 2 guys from legends for guards,what ever,I mean I guess we could have complained about Wayf,as he doesn't normally play on GL,but we didn't.
You're down to your last guard ie Wolf Boy,and Monkus as leader. Happy hunting.
Mithrandir
05-13-2005, 12:55 PM
Didn't they reserve the right to change guards, assuming they didn't get killed? They aren't changing tyu, who's dead, they're changing wolf-boy, who's very much alive.
Majestic
05-13-2005, 01:00 PM
Awwh Shucks! I wanted to join this war since I was however a member of BG last summer :) Oh well.
Mithrandir
05-13-2005, 01:04 PM
You can join as an ally.
Majestic
05-13-2005, 01:09 PM
Well Im in then, I'll get a gold on GL, that is if Cav doesnt mind :)
Mithrandir
05-13-2005, 01:15 PM
Welcome aboard, I'm sure Cav will live. :cool:
Cavour
05-13-2005, 01:18 PM
A changing of the guard ,so to speak. How do you figure that's fair? In our recent skirmishes,PhillySoul29 was our guard and he was dropping you guys like flies until Tuna stopped him.We didn't post anything about changing the guard or you guys would have had a fit!
This is just another "blatant" case of BG trying to write their own rules again.
And you're comments on bringing 2 guys from legends for guards,what ever,I mean I guess we could have complained about Wayf,as he doesn't normally play on GL,but we didn't.
You're down to your last guard ie Wolf Boy,and Monkus as leader. Happy hunting.
Exactly as Mith said: I'm pretty sure Monkus reserved the right to change positions provided that they hadn't been eliminated, and they were'nt in game at the time of the change. You didn't object to it then, did you genius. :rolleyes: Why you quoted "blatant," I don't know, but I do know that your tendency to screw up spacing around puncuation is beginning to make my eyes bleed. Wayf used that accoutn quite a bit before our last war, as opposed to Batosi JUST getting an account here, coincidentally, and also alreay asking a different clan once the war's over, although I won't specify which. That doesn't seem sketchy at all, does it? :rolleyes:
Well Im in then, I'll get a gold on GL, that is if Cav doesnt mind :)
Not at all. It would be great to have you on our side CD. :) Better hurry though! The war's already going on! :eek:
Lonely Tylenol
05-13-2005, 02:05 PM
A changing of the guard ,so to speak. How do you figure that's fair?
Wolfboy:
Is alive
Isn't in battle/being challenged
Therefore, as agreed earlier, it's perfectly legitimate.
You guys let us change our guards when one wasn't showing up at all, remember? :cool:
finalfantasyt
05-13-2005, 02:17 PM
Dk is still in,you hatchet asked him for a "fun" game on his grey. It wasn't until you were winning that you decided it was for the war. So nope sorry,DK is still in. :dry:
Envy is out by blazed aces.
PUNISHER is out,chaln got him
Hmm....by that logic, I may still be in. Neither Batosi or I was sure if it counted as a war game. Even when he had a clear lead, he still said that he didn't know. :huh:
Red Fire
05-13-2005, 02:17 PM
/agrees with LT, Cavv, and Mith
If a guard is not dead then you change them. Phillysoul29 was dead, so you couldn't bring him back as the leader.... geez
-Red
finalfantasyt
05-13-2005, 02:20 PM
DKR war rules
The DKR rules say nothing at all about changing guards. Therefore, it should be allowed. I mean, it doesn't say you can't.
Mithrandir
05-13-2005, 02:39 PM
-slyer4- defeats carlos22. Woo hoo!
greendaybum5
05-13-2005, 02:42 PM
I do have one problem with this guard changing although Monkus did say it. The thing is that we are currently fighting the war without knowing a replacement, so until one is posted wolf-boy is the current guard and will be counted as one until it is posted.
Mithrandir
05-13-2005, 02:46 PM
Someone said zzzaacckk was the replacement guard but I don't think he wants to be so if he is it'll change.
greendaybum5
05-13-2005, 02:49 PM
so it is zzz for right now? so if we see the name phone or zzzaacckk and challange him it counts as a guard until a new post
Specialist
05-13-2005, 02:50 PM
killed by chaos_knight
carlos22 is out ,killed by -slyer4-
noble-knight is out by chaos_knight
ULLR is out by Twizted Freak
spitfire_101 is out by NR Leader
zzzaacckk
05-13-2005, 03:24 PM
I have not been told therefore there is no way they would make me a guard without telling me. I dont have any time this weekend to play so if you want the war to continue you need a new guard.
Cavour
05-13-2005, 03:26 PM
ULLR knocked Vad out before he lost.
Zz, PM me your suggestion for Guard please.
finalfantasyt
05-13-2005, 03:47 PM
Cav, if you remember, when I played Batosi, I mentioned in clan chat that neither of us was sure if it was a war game, and neither declared it one. Going by what Specialist said in an earlier post, doesn't this make me still able to participate? :huh:
Mithrandir
05-13-2005, 03:48 PM
If that is indeed the case then you most certainly are still in.
Hatchet Warrior
05-13-2005, 04:12 PM
if I wanted a fun game, I would have asked for a damn gold game :cool:
Cavour
05-13-2005, 04:24 PM
Cav, if you remember, when I played Batosi, I mentioned in clan chat that neither of us was sure if it was a war game, and neither declared it one. Going by what Specialist said in an earlier post, doesn't this make me still able to participate? :huh:
Sounds like you're still in to me then. And question: Did anyone eliminate Manonfire101?
Specialist
05-13-2005, 04:30 PM
Anyways Death Spawn69 was not told by Berz aka.Morgan the newb Warpath that it was a war game,so he's still in. At the time Berz was clanless and there fore ds69 is not out of war.
noble-knight
05-13-2005, 04:32 PM
I was battleing chaos_knight in a war game and a minute after the battle i got d/c'ed and phillysoul29 says it counts unless chaos_knight says he wants a rematch when I got d/c'ed. I repeat when I got d/c'ed.?!
by:noble-knight
Hatchet Warrior
05-13-2005, 04:42 PM
Noble, you are still in, it was a damn dc, not a lose. Cheaters
Cavour
05-13-2005, 04:46 PM
Anyways Death Spawn69 was not told by Berz aka.Morgan the newb Warpath that it was a war game,so he's still in. At the time Berz was clanless and there fore ds69 is not out of war.
What the hell are you talking about? Why is it that every other one of your posts tries to bring in some non-existant technicality to get one of you back in?
andalite
05-13-2005, 05:18 PM
I won against deathspawn69, in a very close game with a lot of luck... so can we stop fighting over technicalities now?
Edit: please? :D
Cavour
05-13-2005, 05:21 PM
I won against deathspawn69, in a very close game with a lot of luck... so can we stop fighting over technicalities now?
Edit: please? :D
Woot! :bigsmile: Okay, so that little excuse is negated. Good job Anda. :)
DARKSMILE
05-13-2005, 05:28 PM
ok, i have refreshed the front page, plz PM me and tell me if there are any mistakes.
I have no clue anymore since u all are arguing.
Hatchet Warrior
05-13-2005, 05:33 PM
Dragon Link beat Jean Paul
Cavour
05-13-2005, 05:36 PM
I think that's pretty accurate except I hear Noble-Knight d/ced early, and that's kinda stupid to take the win, but whatever. Also, lettign you guys know, because you don't tell us about Allies before they play, and that pisses me off, Dragoen Link and Dark Ghost Recon are gonna help BG. :)
DARKSMILE
05-13-2005, 05:36 PM
Dragon Link beat Jean Paul
excuse me, but his name is Dragoen Link
Hatchet Warrior
05-13-2005, 05:45 PM
excuse me, I didnt see his name the right way then *thinks to self, damn assclown*
TheBlazedAce
05-13-2005, 05:52 PM
Not only that, but afterwards he was complaining about a wisp being used as not in his "rules" so I went on BG leaders and asked if he'd play a game turtle vs turtle old school his rules on rev becuase my gold is on there he said no, then I said on this server with BG leaders and he refused. He's out for refusing any and all attempts to get a match with him.
Cavour
05-13-2005, 05:56 PM
So he's out either way I guess?
Specialist
05-13-2005, 06:07 PM
Manonfire 101 was taken out last night by 23collector
Hatchet Warrior
05-13-2005, 06:09 PM
Specialist, shut up.
DARKSMILE
05-13-2005, 06:52 PM
lets not get to hostile
(that was a spelling word for school...hehehehe)
Who is BGs guard, it is wolf-boy until u pik another guard
TheBlazedAce
05-13-2005, 07:09 PM
lets not get to hostile
(that was a spelling word for school...hehehehe)
You have great spelling skills there. These wars against HA are getting more and more pathetic every time.
DARKSMILE
05-13-2005, 07:22 PM
These wars against HA are getting more and more pathetic every time.
And why is that? HA isnt the one faking d/c's (noble-knight) because they r losing.
Wolf-Boy is playing on different accounts.
It seems to me that BG is the one that is pathetic.
EDIT: Here is the screeny of noble-knight "d/c" again.
Metro is yellow (http://img150.echo.cx/my.php?image=bgwasnobleknight4vk.jpg)
Anyways Death Spawn69 was not told by Berz aka.Morgan the newb Warpath that it was a war game,so he's still in. At the time Berz was clanless and there fore ds69 is not out of war.
that dosnt mean he isnt allied
Cavour
05-13-2005, 08:13 PM
And why is that? HA isnt the one faking d/c's (noble-knight) because they r losing.
Wolf-Boy is playing on different accounts.
It seems to me that BG is the one that is pathetic.
EDIT: Here is the screeny of noble-knight "d/c" again.
Metro is yellow (http://img150.echo.cx/my.php?image=bgwasnobleknight4vk.jpg)
Screen shot doesn't work. And why does everyone keep saying Wolf is using different accounts?? Philly said he had proof, I asked him to post it, and he just neglected to do so. Even if you guys have actual suspicions, make sure it's absolute truth before openning your mouths.
Chair_Reloaded
05-13-2005, 09:49 PM
sk8 24/7 is out of war for accepting my game then refusing to play becuase i didnt play turtle and i asked him for the game and he said he didnt care that he was out.
andalite
05-13-2005, 09:53 PM
I agree that sk8 is out, but is it fair for Batosi to use Chair's account to fight war games?
Lonely Tylenol
05-13-2005, 10:08 PM
I agree that sk8 is out, but is it fair for Batosi to use Chair's account to fight war games?
Unless I'm mistaken, you have it backwards. Chair was on Batosi's account. :p
Chair_Reloaded
05-13-2005, 10:13 PM
Unless I'm mistaken, you have it backwards. Chair was on Batosi's account. :p
You know what happened lonely stop lying i got on Chair offered again and then he said no u were there and you were the one that told him that he was out of war dont even argue
And i just beat Dragoen link hes out of war
Lonely Tylenol
05-13-2005, 10:27 PM
You know what happened lonely stop lying i got on Chair offered again and then he said no u were there and you were the one that told him that he was out of war dont even argue
Is your head screwed on straight? What I just said actually helped you.
Whatever.
MtSlayer
05-14-2005, 01:42 AM
Anyways Death Spawn69 was not told by Berz aka.Morgan the newb Warpath that it was a war game,so he's still in. At the time Berz was clanless and there fore ds69 is not out of war.
You can suck my nut. I schooled one of your weak ass nub golds in a game he should have won and PhillySoul even acknowledged it. You're pathetic. I lost to a gold posing as a gray, do you see me crying? Your noob gold lost to a gray who had his first game in a month or so, suck it up.
Chaosti
05-14-2005, 01:49 AM
This is by far one of the least organized wars ever. The way things are progressing, even if one of leaders finally fall, and a victorious side declared, there is so much controversy going on that the winner will always be disputed. To remedy this, I propose that you guys restart this whole thing. And BEFORE any war battles can be fought, Leaders and Guards should be posted as permanent positions. Also, a clan roster for each side should be also be posted before the war begins. This will prevent creating multi-accounts halfway through the war as well as boosting numbers by mid-war recruiting. Also, a posted clan roster will make eliminations and such much easier to keep track of. In addition, allies and allied clans should also be posted beforehand. I mean these are just suggestion to help facilitate this thing. DKR's rules are far from perfect. The leaders from both clans should come to an agreement as to how this war should progress; otherwise, there will just be a continuous loop of "HA is cheating" "No BG is cheating"
greendaybum5
05-14-2005, 07:25 AM
I kind of feel that Chaosti's post is a good one. This war is one of the most unorganized wars i have seen/participated in. It's really not fair for either side right now since BG hasnt really announced a guard. I agree with Chaosti, Let's post some clan rosters and then have guads to which we will stick to....Only problem is we got rid of tyu already.
Mithrandir
05-14-2005, 07:51 AM
There are a lot of problems. Yes, you did get rid of tyu but BG got rid of lots of good players on your side as well. I don't know, I think the whole thing stinks and it would be lousy to have to make all that work meaningless but I must agree that this would be better. You should have a few days to make your rosters and then start over.
And on another note, carlos22 (a gold) challenged me (a grey) to a war game yesterday. I didn't deny the challenge but fortunately I stalled long enough that slyer showed up and beat him. But I have a serious problem with this, whether or not it's in DKR's rules, it is dishonorable and every decent player here knows it. We all frown on grey jumping and in a war it's WORSE than grey jumping. I think it would be better if golds couldn't challenge greys with gold accounts, just my humble opinion.
Cavour
05-14-2005, 09:04 AM
It's really not fair for either side right now since BG hasnt really announced a guard..... Only problem is we got rid of tyu already.
Yeah... that's the only reason... :rolleyes:
And no, an Ally that you guys failed to tell us about beforehand got rid of Tyu. :)
I do agree with Ti says, and I do agree with what Mith says; especially about the Golds challenging Greys thing. If a Grey wants to challenge a Gold, then fine, but when you have veteran Golds hunting opposing Greys, it just isn't right in my eyes.
Chair_Reloaded
05-14-2005, 09:21 AM
yea hes right and maybe we should post pone the war because monkus is having some pretty ruff times right now. But then again i took out kyir sk8 24/7 and dragoen link and tyu is out soooo Idk but leaders should have a disscussion to atleast post pone the war later but the players that were already out stay out. And cavour if u dont want us to hunt greys then why do u want phone (zzzaacckks) grey to be a gaurd i mean we have no coice :\
Mithrandir
05-14-2005, 09:23 AM
If a guard is grey you can feel free to challenge him but phone was never a guard.
DARKSMILE
05-14-2005, 09:25 AM
If a guard is grey you can feel free to challenge him but phone was never a guard.
phone=zzzaacckk
Mithrandir
05-14-2005, 09:27 AM
Phone is grey, zzzaacckk is gold. His grey was never a guard.
yea hes right and maybe we should post pone the war because monkus is having some pretty ruff times right now. But then again i took out kyir sk8 24/7 and dragoen link and tyu is out soooo Idk but leaders should have a disscussion to atleast post pone the war later but the players that were already out stay out. And cavour if u dont want us to hunt greys then why do u want phone (zzzaacckks) grey to be a gaurd i mean we have no coice :\
you took me out 'casue you're scared to turtle :mad:
DARKSMILE
05-14-2005, 09:30 AM
Phone is grey, zzzaacckk is gold. His grey was never a guard.
well, if zzz is on phone and phone gets beaten, i think tht counts as zzz getting beatin. it isnt fai for him using 2 accnts.
TheBlazedAce
05-14-2005, 10:51 AM
Darksmile, all I see is HA complaining every few posts about not knowing it was a war game. The only person we've complained about so far is noble knight, of which you couldn't even post a proper screenshot. The integrity of your entire clan was at about a 0 before this war happened and it's probably -5.
i agree :D
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andalite
05-14-2005, 02:00 PM
1. This war is practically impossible for me to participate in, since A. I don't know which greys are allied with HA, and B. I can't find the greys that are actually in HA. I'm assuming there are some greys online from HA, but just never feel like answering my challenge. So it's like, greys HAVE to challenge golds if they want to help out, but it should be their choice, I think. It'd be a bit unfair for, say, a 1500 gold to challenge an opposing grey, I think.
2. I second the postponing thing, this has been way too confusing. Would it be possible to wait for a while?
Edit: deleted my reasons for postponing 'cause it WAS a bit whiny :blush2:
Specialist
05-14-2005, 02:26 PM
This has easily turned into the great GL server war,I mean more than half of this server wants to take a bite out of BG.
At the beginning,I told Monkus that we would be using †Nazgul's Revenge† and VIS as alliances and somewhere in the hoopla, the posting of the alliances was lost. I think everyone should just RELAX!
You all state that BG is a most respectable clan, but by the posts in here,I mean,my 7yr old daughter doesn't cry like some of you do.
Yesterday morning,wolf boy was on BG Leaders,having a wonderful time killing our guys.Until carlos22 came on,then he was on wolf boy for a brief moment saying that he had to go in 2 minutes so therefore he couldn't fight carlos. Then, and this really made me wonder,-slyer4-appears.He's clanless,moments later he's in BG and looking for a fight which is cool.Then |_ancer Knight gets taken out by chaos_knight.
Ok fine,but then 30 minutes later |_k's sis comes on saying he's |_ancer,and wants to get his grey in the clan to kill the HA greys.We tell him that because his gold acct is out of the war ,his grey cannot fight in the war.He's in shock and the 1st thing he says is wolf boy or menaddar was on his acct. So there it is,I mean 1 of your own didn't even know that a lesser leader was using his acct in the war.And you guys say that we're pathetic!!
It's obvious to me that BG is under going some problems with leadership people and the misuse of other people's accounts.Although I am very surprised that Monkus even accepted the war challenge when he did.
You all love to throw accusations around especially when you know that you are far out numbered and stand a very great chance of losing this war.
I will be meeting with the leaders of your clan and mine hopefully in the very near future to sort this out.If!! this is to be postponed until Monkus is done with his schooling,the casualties will remain.all those who have been knocked out of war,will remain out of it when it resumes. Your clan is still down a guard and our guards will remain the same.
Oh and 1 more thing ,I vote that wolf boy is out of this war and |_ancer should be reinstated. I'm sure you guys will find something else to whine about in the meantime. Cheers!! :mad:
Lonely Tylenol
05-14-2005, 03:39 PM
This has easily turned into the great GL server war
DAMMIT!
:mad: Who's going first?
DARKSMILE
05-14-2005, 03:41 PM
Oh and 1 more thing ,I vote that wolf boy is out of this war and |_ancer should be reinstated. I'm sure you guys will find something else to whine about in the meantime. Cheers!! :mad:
of course they r gunna whine about them losing that guard.
EDIT: I am sorry bout the picture with noble and metro.
here is the link the works.
Metro is yellow (http://img139.echo.cx/img139/7462/bgwasnobleknight3fx2hr.jpg)
ive started my streak and put out mouse for the mighty bg yay yay yay ,e
Specialist
05-14-2005, 04:26 PM
Ok guys enough is enough! Get your pencils sharpened and post a roster of all of your players in and out of this skirmish and we will do the same. When this is done and the rosters are up,we will re commence the pounding on both sides. :rolleyes:
Im with Bg
You all state that BG is a most respectable clan, but by the posts in here,I mean,my 7yr old daughter doesn't cry like some of you do.
i didnt know 8 year old's could have kids
Terps rock
05-14-2005, 07:45 PM
You guys should restart and use Serge's rules, but only BG and HA, too avoid confusion. There should be 20 players, maybe half grey half gold or something like that, doesn't have to be but I think it would be easier.
no, im going to be in this, even if i have to kill you to to it terp's
Specialist
05-14-2005, 08:08 PM
I've been hovering in the forums off and on all day just waiting for some more whining. *Someone hurry,go find a cookie for little Kyir* :D
Kyir,you're out of this war.
its purly your decision? as if... you just pissed, i can do that to anyone
DARKSMILE
05-14-2005, 08:37 PM
why wuld he be pissed. HA is currently pwning BG
Im with Bg
You all state that BG is a most respectable clan, but by the posts in here,I mean,my 7yr old daughter doesn't cry like some of you do.
i didnt know 8 year old's could have kids
thats why he's pissed, anyway, i seem to see more casultiys on your side, and we have wolf-boy, Monk and others left
Specialist
05-14-2005, 09:26 PM
grow up kyir
DARKSMILE
05-14-2005, 09:34 PM
thats why he's pissed, anyway, i seem to see more casultiys on your side, and we have wolf-boy, Monk and others left
well, u guys took out our greys, we have taken out ur min players(mst of them) and wolf should be out
but he isnt, and you jsut got pwned by tugger, to bad he didnt know it was war...
DARKSMILE
05-14-2005, 09:45 PM
but he isnt, and you jsut got pwned by tugger, to bad he didnt know it was war...
lol, i wouldnt call it being pwned. i would call it a vey good game.
BTW, i am out of the war.
and even if i was still in the war, the war has been postponed. get ure facts straight
i know that, otherwise i wouldent of called BG's side again, and your right, pwned is exagerating, i tend to do that, sorry
Cavour
05-14-2005, 09:51 PM
This has easily turned into the great GL server war,I mean more than half of this server wants to take a bite out of BG.
Yeah, let's just completely forget about the Allies BG has. Granted that HA recruited more Allies, probably because they don't have enough confidence in their own clan, but half the server? Your arrogant exagerations are really growing on me Spec! :rolleyes:
You all state that BG is a most respectable clan, but by the posts in here,I mean,my 7yr old daughter doesn't cry like some of you do.
Totally! I mean, Hells Angels decided to load up on alliances, and go after BG while they were having all sorts of changes and transitions, while most of their strong players were in retirement, and while the new leadership thing was settling in and getting organized, thus making BG a lot weaker than it is historically. And you can't forget about all the imaginary technicalities HA is trying to invent to get players back in the game. Man, what a bunch of champs. But yeah, BG is so lame. Also funny how you 7 year old daughter not only cries less than us, but types better than you, isn't it? Talk about a child prodigy.
Yesterday morning,wolf boy was on BG Leaders,having a wonderful time killing our guys.Until carlos22 came on,then he was on wolf boy for a brief moment saying that he had to go in 2 minutes so therefore he couldn't fight carlos. Then, and this really made me wonder,-slyer4-appears.He's clanless,moments later he's in BG and looking for a fight which is cool.Then |_ancer Knight gets taken out by chaos_knight.
Ok fine,but then 30 minutes later |_k's sis comes on saying he's |_ancer,and wants to get his grey in the clan to kill the HA greys.We tell him that because his gold acct is out of the war ,his grey cannot fight in the war.He's in shock and the 1st thing he says is wolf boy or menaddar was on his acct. So there it is,I mean 1 of your own didn't even know that a lesser leader was using his acct in the war.And you guys say that we're pathetic!!
Where's the proof that any of that was Wolf-boy?! Sure, that does seem a bit too coincidental, but it's possible. No offense, but Wolf-boy has done a lot of damage to you guys so far, and I think that's why you're trying to make him look like a sketchy bastard. I'm also quite confident that Wolf-boy wouldn't lose to Chaos_Knight. No offense Chaos.
It's obvious to me that BG is under going some problems with leadership people and the misuse of other people's accounts.Although I am very surprised that Monkus even accepted the war challenge when he did.
Yup, it is obvious that we're going through leadership problems, which makes it quite conveniant for you tough guys to declare war now, huh? Also, people aren't misusing accounts. Whether it seems that way or not, that in no way is a common occurence, and probably not an occurence at all. And why does it surprise you that Monk accepted? You think he'd rather look like a pansy by turning down a war challenge from a clan we've beaten twice, even though we're weaker than we usually are right now? Get a grip.
You all love to throw accusations around especially when you know that you are far out numbered and stand a very great chance of losing this war.Maybe you should check the thread genius. It's HA throwing around accusations. Namely you, you hipocrit. Where you get off saying BG is doing that, when you accused Wolf of foul play 2 paragraphs before this, I don't know, but at least it's comforting to know that you DO realize that BG is outnumbered, and if we do lose, it will be because of your Allies, and not because of you. :)
Oh and 1 more thing ,I vote that wolf boy is out of this war and |_ancer should be reinstated. I'm sure you guys will find something else to whine about in the meantime. Cheers!! :mad:
Really? Cause I vote 'no.' I don't care how fixated on the idea of Wolf-boy being out for no reason you are, but there's absolutely no proof that Wolf-boy was on any account that lost thus far. If you think that we're gonna get rid of the player that has done the most damage to you guys so far, just because of some weak suspicion, then you're more stupid than I thought. Cheers!!
why wuld he be pissed. HA is currently pwning BG
That's funny... I seem to see 13 players for BG out, and 17 players for HA out... Can someone remind me which number is bigger? Thirteen must be the bigger number if BG's getting pwned, right?
well, u guys took out our greys, we have taken out ur min players(mst of them) and wolf should be out
Oh yeah, all those Greys, like you, death spawn, Jean Paul, PUNISHER, Carlos, Life Sucks... Oh wait... :rolleyes:
I urge you guys to respond, really. It seems that every one of your points are moot with a little perspective added in, so go ahead. Especially Specialist. I'm really enjoying this exploition of stupidity. Posting pwnage is pretty fun, and it's a great work out. :)
Cav is Teh L33tness
everything there is true, i never even heard you had proof, which theres isnt, sence wolf didnt
Yeah, let's just completely forget about the Allies BG has. Granted that HA recruited more Allies, probably because they don't have enough confidence in their own clan, but half the server? Your arrogant exagerations are really growing on me Spec! :rolleyes:
really, lets forget Resurgent is comming back, and all of the elites with bg, we should really overlook that :rolleyes:
DARKSMILE
05-14-2005, 10:46 PM
Oh yeah, all those Greys, like you, death spawn, Jean Paul, PUNISHER, Carlos, Life Sucks... Oh wait... :rolleyes:
damn, u got me there
MtSlayer
05-14-2005, 10:47 PM
I'm 100% positive that was not wolf because wolf was saying this morning how he would never use a second account as a safety because he, you know, has honor and would accept if he honestly lost.
P.S. I wasn't aware that when I killed Death Spawn it was a gray v gray game.
DARKSMILE
05-14-2005, 10:52 PM
I'm 100% positive that was not wolf because wolf was saying this morning how he would never use a second account as a safety because he, you know, has honor and would accept if he honestly lost.
ummm... does that sound fake or is it just me?
MtSlayer
05-14-2005, 11:10 PM
Well forgive me for not taking an ss of clan chat at 11am in the morning.
DARKSMILE
05-14-2005, 11:12 PM
Well forgive me for not taking an ss of clan chat at 11am in the morning.
next time think... :p
sub the hendrix
05-14-2005, 11:52 PM
I really need to get in on this thing.
*heads to GL*
HA greys, watch your backs!
you got sold at a Pawn shop? weird
bludhoundz
05-15-2005, 09:47 AM
If a Grey wants to challenge a Gold, then fine
I'd like to reserve the right to play greys on my grey only.
ie. if I were on a gold and challenged by a grey, I'd play them grey. If they say they are grey, but still have gold pieces, I'll take a screeny and DQ them of course :D
bludhoundz
05-15-2005, 09:50 AM
.You all love to throw accusations around especially when you know that you are far out numbered and stand a very great chance of losing this war.
Sorry, just using my new and improved bullshit scanner. Maybe outnumbered, but not by any really special players.
]This has easily turned into the great GL server war [or the other wars we lost],I mean more than half of this server wants to take a bite out of BG. [exept the giant part that isnt involved, and the part thats on bg's side]
n00b filtered
Mithrandir
05-15-2005, 10:09 AM
I don't think that's allowed blud, I think you would just have to accept the challenge as a gold.
sub the hendrix
05-15-2005, 01:35 PM
Spartan (with crosses on each side of his name) jumped me with a gold account. I told him that wasn't allowed, he left. I'm assuming that means he is dead, but it was sort of weird.
DARKSMILE
05-15-2005, 02:04 PM
Spartan (with crosses on each side of his name) jumped me with a gold account. I told him that wasn't allowed, he left. I'm assuming that means he is dead, but it was sort of weird.
ugh, the war is postponed. no kills count right now.
Mithrandir
05-15-2005, 02:06 PM
I think considering the kills aren't going to be reset, until the lists come out it should be allowed for two players to agree to a war game but they can turn each other down if they want. I think that'd be perfectly fair.
MtSlayer
05-15-2005, 02:07 PM
This war is definitely becoming disorganized and at this point is impossible to track. Here's what I propose:
We halt the war, and re-define the rules of war completely. Draft up something that covers every scenario, using insight from both members of HA and BG, a council of sorts. I'll write the first draft myself, and then post it for revisions.
Assemble a definite roster of allies and then give a brief period to gather names of allies and then close off the allies to those named. Alliances must give the names of members, and the main alliances will close recruiting once the war begins. If an alliance does recruit members during the war, they must name these members in the first war thread as non-participants.
Review the current casualties list using the new rules of war, and either keep or discard kills entirely or on a one by one basis.
sub the hendrix
05-15-2005, 02:11 PM
Berz saves the day again! Good idea.
Chaosti
05-15-2005, 02:13 PM
Berz saves the day again! Good idea.
Except I already suggested this, and everyone already agreed with me. Hence, the war has been postponed until rosters and such are made.
Im on bg's side :cool:
otherwise known as the "right" side
sub the hendrix
05-15-2005, 02:15 PM
Well excuse me for not paying attention.
Chaosti
05-15-2005, 02:56 PM
Well excuse me for not paying attention.
Thats ok. Everyone gets bouts of ADD. It's perfectly......look a butterfly!
MtSlayer
05-15-2005, 03:25 PM
Here is what I have so far. I'm pretty sure I'm missing some stuff.
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Morgan Warpath’s Rules of War
All rules are subject to arbitration by both clans.
I. Declarations of War
1) Once a clan challenges another clan to a war, the challenging clan must post a declaration of war once the challenge is accepted. The declaration should include the rules of war being used, clan rosters, allies, and the conditions of defeat.
2) Rosters must include two guards, a leader, and all listed members.
a) Example:
Morgan Warpath’s Rules of War
Clan A VS Clan B
Clan A
Leader: Berzerker
Guards: Tyu
Monkus
Roster:
Golds:
Morgan Warpath
Cavour
Grays:
Erinyeh (Morgan Warpath)
Kaoticos
3) Clan rosters must include two guards, the leader, and a list of members. Once the clan rosters are finalized, the clans CANNOT add additional members to the roster unless the opposing clan allows it. Golds must be listed, and a single gray account belonging to a gold must have the name of the gold listed next to it.
a) For example: Berzerker of Clan A retires before a war begins, and returns to TAO midway throughout the war. In order for Clan A to allow Berzerker to participate, Clan B must consent.
b) A compromise could be reached, such as Clan A adding a member and Clan B adding a member.
4) There must be two designated Guards that must be defeated before the leader engages in battle. Only when the two guards are killed can the leader fight, and any battles involving the leader before the guards are killed do not count. Guards may issue challenges normally.
a) For example: Berzerker, leader of Clan A sits on a tile waiting for a game and is jumped by a Morgan Warpath of Clan B. Berzerker would have the option to leave the game or complete it without penalty. The game would be perceived as an everyday battle outside of the war.
5) Guards can only be changed when the guard is unable to participate in the war any longer. If a guard resigns, he is considered killed and is no longer able to participate under any circumstances. If a guard is killed, he cannot be replaced and the clan is limited to one remaining guard.
a) Example 1: Berzerker is the guard of Clan A and must resign because he can no longer play TAO for personal reasons. Clan A seeks to replace Berzerker with Morgan Warpath with the consent of Clan B. A week later Berzerker is able to play again, but he is out of the war.
b) Example 2: Clan A has Berzerker and Morgan Warpath as guards. Berzerker is killed during the war. Clan A cannot replace Berzerker, but can still replace Morgan Warpath.
6) Leaders can be replaced following the same rules as guards.
II. Alliances
1) Clans may use allies if both clans allow it. Allied clans must post a roster following the same rules as the main clans, and if the guards and leaders of an allied clan are defeated the entire clan is considered defeated.
2) Clans may use as many allies as they wish, however, this may reflect poorly on the alliance if they win or lose. Clans may impose a limit to the number of allied accounts or allied clans. Once the allied roster is finalized, it can only be changed according to the rules that apply to the main rosters and at the agreement of both main clans.
a) Example 1: Clan A and Clan B agree that only 20 allied accounts can be used. This means that up to 20 additional players count as allies, and they must be named.
b) Example 2: Clan A and Clan B agree to use 2 allied clans each. Clan A’s allies are both defeated, leaving only Clan A. Clan A cannot add additional clans
III. Challenges
1) Challenges must be issued in-game. Challenges on a forum or other medias are not counted unless responded to by both parties.
2) The loser of a challenge is considered killed and cannot participate officially in the war any longer.
3) If a clan member refuses a challenge, they are immediately killed and cannot participate any longer. Proof should be provided for all kills to prevent dispute. Exceptions to this rule include:
a) The challenged player must leave. Under this circumstance, the player must specify a later time for the challenge and neither can play any other war matches until the challenge is completed. The challenger may choose to retract his challenge, and the challenge expires within 48 hours. Abuse of this exception results in the immediate death of the participant in question.
i) Example 1: Berzerker from Clan A challenges Morgan Warpath from Clan B. Morgan must leave, but agrees to face Berzerker at a later time. Berzerker cannot play any war matches until he faces Morgan Warpath. If Morgan Warpath does not make an honest attempt to complete the challenge within 48 hours, he is considered killed. If Berzerker does not retract the challenge or make an honest attempt to complete the challenge, he is considered killed for abuse of the rules of war.
b) Example 2:The challenged player already has a pre-arranged game. In this case, the challenger may choose to wait until after the game is completed to re-issue his challenge. After the game is completed, the challenged player must accept the match or be considered killed.
4) If a player is sitting on an open tile (meaning he is not involved in an arranged match) he is considered open to any and all challenges.
a) Example: Berzerker of Clan A sits on floor 4 waiting for a game, and is jumped by Morgan Warpath of Clan B. Morgan Warpath defeats Berzerker and earns the kill, and vice versa.
5) Golds may not challenge or jump grays unless allowed by both clans. This serves to level the playing field and to discourage gray jumping. If a gray exceeds a pre-determined number of kills, a bounty is placed on his head and the ban is lifted. A gray may challenge golds at their own peril. This is subject to the agreement of both clans. A gold may choose to use their gray account to face gray players.
a) Example: Berzerker of Clan A is a gray and has killed 5 members of Clan B, which is the set number of kills warranting a bounty. In this case, golds may challenge and jump Berzerker.
6) Golds that have expired but retained their gold units on a gray account MUST be immediately declared. A gold-gray must declare themselves as a gold when issuing challenges and follow the rules applying to gold accounts. Violation of this rule results in immediate death if proof is provided of the gold units.
a) Example: Berzerker is a gold-gray and challenges Morgan Warpath (gray) without declaring his gold status. Morgan accepts the challenge, thinking Berzerker is a gray and subsequently loses the match. Berzerker is disqualified for violation of the rule, and Morgan earns the kill and remains alive.
7) A gray with a gold account on Revelations may issue challenges as a gold if the challenged gold agrees to face the player on Revelations.
8) Players cannot use multiple accounts. A gold account may use a single, named gray account with the consent of the opposing account. If a player is caught using multiple accounts, each account is considered killed. Guards and the leader cannot use an additional account.
9) Players that do not respond to multiple challenges over a period of time will be considered killed. If you cannot play for whatever reason but remain online, that is your own folly.
10) If a player is disconnected for legitimate reasons, the remaining player must post a screenshot of the match at the time of the disconnect to be judged. If the player had an overwhelming advantage, they may choose to schedule a rematch or they may take the win. If there was no advantage or they were losing, they must hold a rematch.
11) Leaders cannot challenge or be challenged until the guards of the appropriate clan are defeated in entirety. Leaders may engage in a leader vs leader battle that would determine the outcome of the war if both leaders agree. If one leader does not accept, there is no consequence.
IV) Defeat
1) A clan is defeated when their leader has been killed. In the case of allied clans, the entire clan is removed from the war. In the case of the main clans, the war is over.
2) The defeated clan must wait 1 full month before challenging the victorious clan again, and vice versa. This is changeable.
DARKSMILE
05-15-2005, 03:41 PM
I read the whole thing. I might have missed this but...
what if you get diconnected from a battle, and the reason is not because of fowl language?
MtSlayer
05-15-2005, 03:46 PM
I knew I forgot something.. a pretty obvious one too.
If a player is disconnected for legitimate reasons, the remaining player must post a screenshot of the match at the time of the disconnect to be judged. If the player had an overwhelming advantage, they may choose to schedule a rematch or they may take the win. If there was no advantage or they were losing, they must hold a rematch.
DARKSMILE
05-15-2005, 03:47 PM
I knew I forgot something.. a pretty obvious one too.
If a player is disconnected for legitimate reasons, the remaining player must post a screenshot of the match at the time of the disconnect to be judged. If the player had an overwhelming advantage, they may choose to schedule a rematch or they may take the win. If there was no advantage or they were losing, they must hold a rematch.
ok, how bout u add that in ure war rules thing
Specialist
05-15-2005, 04:03 PM
All sarcasm aside, well done berz.
ok,well it all sounds good. i'm currently waiting on a roster from both allied clans, as soon as I have it I'll post the whole thing. Actually I will be delegating this job to someone else as I'm going in for back surgery(YAY) on Thursday. I'll leave this in the hands of my #1 guy PhillySoul29.
I'd like to take a quick moment to apologize to all BGer's. I'm sorry if I've been a big jerk. I've been waiting for this surgery for almost 2 years and I've turned into quite an asshole because of it. I'm hoping that this surgery will give me back my god given right of being able to sit on a chair for more than 15 minutes with no agonizing pain.
Do any of you know how hard it is to type while kneeling in front of your computer? It's bloody difficult. :)
Anyway I hope that you all can forgive my behaviour.
That's my story, now let's get this done and get the war moving forward again. Cheers!
bludhoundz
05-15-2005, 07:51 PM
I don't think that's allowed blud, I think you would just have to accept the challenge as a gold.
No, I could just use grey units...its exactly the same as going onto a grey. I just want to level the playing field. But I have no gold anyway, so too bad for me.
Chair_Reloaded
05-15-2005, 08:36 PM
lol specia the chair is ur best friend though and the surgery better let u sit in the chair becuase the chair will make ur stats go up by like 2903854092385 :)
Specialist
05-16-2005, 04:01 AM
thank you for the vote of confidence,it helps. :)
Dan_F_U
05-16-2005, 07:28 AM
meh i dont have time to read all this so ill jus say wat i have to. I play on the Ryan56 account so if u guys need backup, jus let me kno. Ill be a mercenary . Pretty much jus let me kno who is on whos team, cuz some ppl i dont like :bigsmile:
TheBlazedAce
05-16-2005, 10:19 AM
Obviously I'm on team BG. Final question that you might want to add to the rules. If I have a gold account on rev can I challenge golds to a war game and then play it with my gold on rev?
Krome
05-16-2005, 02:06 PM
Why was the current war postponed? I never found out why.
Mithrandir
05-16-2005, 02:45 PM
There was a lot of fighting about this and that. Pretty annoying if you ask me. I'm ready to just drop out entirely, I wanted to be a part of it because it sounded like fun. This is just ridiculous. Not fun at all.
MtSlayer
05-16-2005, 03:04 PM
7) A gray with a gold account on Revelations may issue challenges as a gold if the challenged gold agrees to face the player on Revelations.
Believe me, that was one of the first things I wrote up Blazed, I'm in the same boat.
And Specialist, we may dislike each other but I can definitely relate. Chronic back pain is a nightmare.
Specialist
05-17-2005, 12:25 PM
The reason for postponing the war was to get the rosters up of who is on both sides. I have heard a rumor that we will be starting the war over from the beginning.So the onus is on both clans to post rosters of alliances and team mates who will be taking part in this adventure.
furthermore a roster should stop the crying everyday about who is helping who and there should be no mid war recruiting.
So everyone go out there and kick some butts and have fun doing it.I'll see all of you in a month or so. Specialist=Vengeance
MtSlayer
05-17-2005, 02:25 PM
I'd like some feedback on my proposed rules of war so that they may be used in the upcoming war if possible.
sub the hendrix
05-17-2005, 02:36 PM
I read em and i like em berz.
Mithrandir
05-17-2005, 02:37 PM
You ought to link to that post. Refresh my memory, does it include that golds can't challenge greys? And can someone with a gold in rev challenge a gold to a rev game?
MtSlayer
05-17-2005, 02:42 PM
Yes it does, and there's a catch.
Golds may challenge grays when grays have amassed an amount of kills, to be decided by both clans. Then a bounty is placed on their head, meaning they're open to all challenges.
Say I kill 5 HA players as a gray, and 5 is the agreed upon mark. I'm now open to all challengers. If I have 4 though, tough luck I've still got one kill to go. That doesn't stop me from challenging golds though.
And grays may use gold accounts. Read the rules carefully though, there's a lot of little things in there I've added, such as the gray-gold rules, golds using a gray as well (controversial), etc.
Mithrandir
05-17-2005, 02:44 PM
Could you link to that specific post?
MtSlayer
05-17-2005, 02:46 PM
http://tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?p=412342#post412342
I made a new thread, although it was in the last page. ;)
Mithrandir
05-17-2005, 02:49 PM
7) A gray with a gold account on Revelations may issue challenges as a gold if the challenged gold agrees to face the player on Revelations.
This basically means a grey with a gold account in rev is going to be useless. Essentially a gold can turn down that challenge and considering it would be in his best interest to do so, why not?
MtSlayer
05-17-2005, 02:52 PM
True, but at least the option is there. I still want there to be an advantage given to the guy paying 5 bucks a month to play on GL and not Banff or something like that. Could you imagine how chaotic it'd be if we had a million allies from other servers with golds on rev?
Mithrandir
05-17-2005, 02:53 PM
I understand why it kind of has to be that way, it just seems like it doesn't make sense to even include that clause like that.
MtSlayer
05-17-2005, 03:22 PM
How should it be written then? All I've got is small suggestions from other people and my own thoughts at this point.
Mithrandir
05-17-2005, 03:32 PM
I'd say you should state it more along the lines of how it's useless unless the opposing gold agrees. Your version seems a little half-full when it really ought to be half-empty. My humble opinion.
DoubleJumper
05-18-2005, 10:36 PM
When is this god damn tournament going to happen?! Im patiently waiting to pwn Cavy or Monky :bigsmile: :bigsmile: LET's GET READY TO RUMBLE!
Hatchet Warrior
05-18-2005, 10:48 PM
you'll have to beat me first. I'm gunning for batosi :cool:
Krome
05-19-2005, 01:07 AM
You will have to get me too.
TheBlazedAce
05-19-2005, 07:27 AM
When is this god damn tournament going to happen?! Im patiently waiting to pwn Cavy or Monky :bigsmile: :bigsmile: LET's GET READY TO RUMBLE!
Why are you against us DJ? If that's the case I'm personally taking you down!
wolf-boy
05-19-2005, 07:30 AM
I'm ready to whip out these guns, im aiming for everyone within range/online. Lets get it started already.
DoubleJumper
05-19-2005, 04:46 PM
Blaze go ahead and take me down....Ive gotten a little better since we last played. Im also curious as to how many of wolf-boys golds we are going to have to beat. Not like it matters just wondering
DARKSMILE
05-19-2005, 05:02 PM
ok, well is it still postponed?
DoubleJumper
05-19-2005, 09:25 PM
I would like to retract my last statement. Ive been pissed off one to many times in Hells Angels and Ive decided its time to leave along with 2xFire and Lord Sesshomaru. Ove already posted my apology on the BG Clan Discussion page. So I won't be participating in the war unless its on the side of BG. So, if you all need or want help, just come find DGR, 2xfire, and/or Lord Sesshomaru. We are like a 3 for 1 special! :bigsmile: :bigsmile:
2xfire
05-19-2005, 09:30 PM
hmm... what he said ^^^^
wolf-boy
05-20-2005, 09:19 AM
Ok, well apology accepted ^_^
sub the hendrix
05-21-2005, 12:23 AM
Yet another HA is a grey jumper, Merritt808 this time. Not only that, but he insulted my the entire game. Just felt like pointing it out, and here is as good a place as any.
DoubleJumper
05-22-2005, 06:17 PM
Hello Everyone.....
Me, 2xfire, Lord Sesshomaru, and manonfire101 have just made a new clan called The Rebels. Wanted to let all the BG members know that we are willing to help out in the war against HA. Just PM me or talk to me on GL and let me know if you want us too. :bigsmile: :bigsmile:
Nobody wants you! Everybody knows they all want me :nyam:
TheBlazedAce
05-22-2005, 07:07 PM
Hello Everyone.....
Me, 2xfire, Lord Sesshomaru, and manonfire101 have just made a new clan called The Rebels. Wanted to let all the BG members know that we are willing to help out in the war against HA. Just PM me or talk to me on GL and let me know if you want us too. :bigsmile: :bigsmile:
When the war starts, we definitly want you!
Cavour
05-22-2005, 07:40 PM
Word. We'd deeply appreciate the help. :)
wolf-boy
05-22-2005, 07:44 PM
Ditto, help is always welcomed, take it from the 3 leaders that just praised you...
apollo7
05-25-2005, 04:55 AM
What about Delphinius? Anyone want me?
wolf-boy
05-25-2005, 09:01 PM
Sure, we'll take any good help we can get...
ballplayer
08-22-2005, 02:30 PM
u wont be able to tell who will win unless they finish!
Dragoen Link
08-22-2005, 07:51 PM
lol...this thread is how old????>_<
_Darkness_
08-22-2005, 10:50 PM
u wont be able to tell who will win unless they finish!
wow... dont bump dead threads, and why did you make the clan: Arcadian Hitmen? dont we have enough Arcadian Clans as it is.
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