View Full Version : JokersWild = GoldRush Beaten
Sir Vivian
07-15-2005, 11:32 AM
Oki, so here's the smack down.
I'm a grey (Admittedly i've been playing for a LONG time. I had a lil break, came back. Not going into history).
I've heard about these Jokers Wild Punks... don't worry, they'll be beaten soon enough ;)
People have complained and moaned GOLD RUSHES ARE NEAR UNBEATABLE. I mean, its impossible to win against a rush with an Ambusher, Wisp, Scout, DSM, Pyro, Frostie, Dragon, Cleric and Muddie yeah? I mean ESPECIALLY with a Grey...
*Cough*
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4505/jwowange3cf.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
I mean, I dont' want to brag but i'm on a high ;)
Not only a Jokers Wild, not only a gold, not only with a rush with all those units (And I didn't have a cleric after 2nd turn. Bleeding Ambusher + Wisp IS nasty in truth lol) but I was a grey =)
Jokers Wild, I tell ye one thing - You. Are. Newbs.
GG
[-Naruto-]Ghost
07-15-2005, 11:51 AM
Yeah, lets rank the skill of everyone in the clan by playing one person.
Sir Vivian
07-15-2005, 11:54 AM
Well the 'attitude and shit' he was throwing at me, plus the fact I've faced one or two of you along with various other bits of information. Yeah think I can sum up what I think ;)
In your clanners words 'Jokers Wild is PIMP'
I should believe those words, yes?
Tag Captain
07-15-2005, 11:54 AM
Posting screenshots of victories lacks class, no matter who it is you're beating.
Sir Vivian
07-15-2005, 11:54 AM
Hey Bottle.
I've always lacked class :P
Edit: Also the topic of this sub-forum is: Did you just get out of an unreal game?
I stand by right to post after this 'unreal game'
Sir Vivian
07-15-2005, 12:08 PM
Maybe I should add the fact I was told to surrender at the start.
I had no chance of winning, I would die and I'm a newb :( (Ok, last bit true)
I mean, that's not very nice is it? Being TOLD to surrender AFTER being jumped :S
KBHoleN1
07-15-2005, 12:10 PM
Sir Vivian, I begin with hesitant congratulations. Congrats on your win, a good game I am sure and you are deserving of the win. But to post a s/s, as Tag said, lacks class. (On a side note, maybe JW will stop posting there wins over other clans if this happens more oftan to them) Grays frequently beat gold rushes, because they are in fact the easiest form for a gray to beat, because they usually lack high hp and armor. This makes turtles much harder to beat as a gray.
To JW, sorry you have to have this happen to you, but Naruto, don't you dare try to defend your clan, more of your members have done this than I can count on one hand, and this trait is certainly not confined to a few select members of your clan.
Sir Vivian
07-15-2005, 12:11 PM
Yeah I know it lacks class :/
But I had to XD
It's a bit of a slap back at the clan really - especially after everything I've heard and seen about them.
Call it returning Justice.
Thanks for Congrats though.
Office_Shredder
07-15-2005, 12:51 PM
Man, you people really hate it when someone posts a screenshot.... if he had just mentioned his opponent's name would that make it better?
A nameless opponent doesn't quite give the same oomph to this sort of thing... I think he deserved to post that
Rogue_Wolf
07-15-2005, 12:59 PM
If the gold jumped you, then you can post the s/s in the forums. Its only rude if you were the one jumping him.
People have complained and moaned GOLD RUSHES ARE NEAR UNBEATABLE. I mean, its impossible to win against a rush with an Ambusher, Wisp, Scout, DSM, Pyro, Frostie, Dragon, Cleric and Muddie yeah? I mean ESPECIALLY with a Grey...
Who are these people? Like KB said, grey turtles are great anti-rushes. Its the reason why most gold anti's are created from the player's grey turtle.
-Rogue_Wolf
Sir Vivian
07-15-2005, 01:10 PM
My formation isn't really a turtle though... it's not a rush but it's not a grey turtle :p
Hey Rogue anyway!
Rogue_Wolf
07-15-2005, 01:17 PM
Heya...DKR? Right?
Thought you were Vival, similar name and same banner threw me off. Guess I'll be seeing you on Army soon :p
-Rogue_Wolf
Sir Vivian
07-15-2005, 01:19 PM
Yep!
Man, all the time I spent on TAO and NEVER faced you. I gotta :P
I'm only Grey at the moment; should be gold by the 21st.
Wayfaerer
07-15-2005, 01:21 PM
"gg lata" Sounded like he was a nice guy! Besides, everyone knows greys have the easiest time with rushes ;)
Sir Vivian
07-15-2005, 01:38 PM
lol I believe that was the one 'nice' thing he said.
His first words in game were 'Surrender'
Oki, so here's the smack down.
I'm a grey (Admittedly i've been playing for a LONG time. I had a lil break, came back. Not going into history).
I've heard about these Jokers Wild Punks... don't worry, they'll be beaten soon enough ;)
People have complained and moaned GOLD RUSHES ARE NEAR UNBEATABLE. I mean, its impossible to win against a rush with an Ambusher, Wisp, Scout, DSM, Pyro, Frostie, Dragon, Cleric and Muddie yeah? I mean ESPECIALLY with a Grey...
*Cough*
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4505/jwowange3cf.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
I mean, I dont' want to brag but i'm on a high ;)
Not only a Jokers Wild, not only a gold, not only with a rush with all those units (And I didn't have a cleric after 2nd turn. Bleeding Ambusher + Wisp IS nasty in truth lol) but I was a grey =)
Jokers Wild, I tell ye one thing - You. Are. Newbs.
GG
Dang, you didn't even have the courtesy to say "gg' back :smarty:
*edit* Oops i didn't notice wayf had the same idea earlier :wacko:
Sir Vivian
07-15-2005, 03:21 PM
Actually I did lol - my 'gg' is before his.
Sir Vivian
07-15-2005, 03:30 PM
HAHAHA!
I just checked USER CP for the Reps.
I've got a bunch of random reps... hmmm...
Ok, to clear this up.
1) Rogue, I ain't Vival :)
2) Two comments say I shouldn't brag about my wins? Pfft why not? It's a win against a gold who rushed me with some pretty cheesy units. Plus the fact this is what the battle report sub-forum is for
Also please label your reps :) I happily label mine, after all if you have something to say, state it to me. Not hide behind a system that doesn't say your name. It's only an Internet Forum; saying your name won't get you hated ;)
Office_Shredder
07-15-2005, 05:01 PM
the system doesn't say your name? I can see the names of everyone who's repped me :confused:
Or is that a gold only thing (please tell me it's not that retarded)
I Hatejokers Wild!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
greendaybum5
07-15-2005, 06:16 PM
Man, you people really hate it when someone posts a screenshot.... if he had just mentioned his opponent's name would that make it better?
A nameless opponent doesn't quite give the same oomph to this sort of thing... I think he deserved to post that
i agree with that 100%.... i mean JW members cmon...lacks class? Sir vivian, i think your name was sorry if i messed that up, that didn't lack class. This section of the forum is to post wins like that, congratulations. I think that is pretty damn funny that people are saying it lacks class...
StreetGang
07-15-2005, 08:42 PM
Sir Vivian, I begin with hesitant congratulations. Congrats on your win, a good game I am sure and you are deserving of the win. But to post a s/s, as Tag said, lacks class. (On a side note, maybe JW will stop posting there wins over other clans if this happens more oftan to them) Grays frequently beat gold rushes, because they are in fact the easiest form for a gray to beat, because they usually lack high hp and armor. This makes turtles much harder to beat as a gray.
To JW, sorry you have to have this happen to you, but Naruto, don't you dare try to defend your clan, more of your members have done this than I can count on one hand, and this trait is certainly not confined to a few select members of your clan.
I'll say it again, if you have names of ppl who are grey jumping, pm me. I'd be happy to expel anyone I can verify it mis-behaving. I mean this sincerely. To date I have received exactly ZERO pms since my last request for names behaving in such a manner.
I have 3 from another source I received today regarding JW on Army, and I will be looking into those.
Sir Vivian congrats on your win. I'll be checking into this regarding PIMP. But I also need verification. Your word needs to be collaborated in some way. A screenshot of the opening. Him admiting he jumped you. Other witnesses. Something like that would be helpful if you have it. Otherwise, the best I can do is talk to him and monitor for other complaints that show a pattern. Jumping, cheating, or boosting is not condoned in JW. Just ask Dape.
Naruto, thanks for being classy in your post. Good example for other JW to follow. I have a new rule, you need to post with class unless they insult your family, your God, or are unpatriotic.
actgfin1234
07-15-2005, 11:41 PM
the system doesn't say your name? I can see the names of everyone who's repped me :confused:
Or is that a gold only thing (please tell me it's not that retarded)
It's that retarded. :)
gryph89
07-15-2005, 11:53 PM
the system doesn't say your name? I can see the names of everyone who's repped me :confused:
Or is that a gold only thing (please tell me it's not that retarded)
Im pretty sure of your a gold in the forums it says the names , but if your grey it dont , Im not too sure though.
And btw , nice win lol
Match Strike
07-16-2005, 02:58 AM
My formation isn't really a turtle though... it's not a rush but it's not a grey turtle :p
Hey Rogue anyway!
That may be true, but the chanty/ bw is a classic grey turtle weapon, and you had that.
Of course you did use a center LW, which is unusual for a grey turtle.
KB was right, of course, when saying that grey forms are good anti-rushes. They can slow down a rush to a bit more managable pace with a BW, three knights, and LW.
Binkpimp
07-16-2005, 03:29 AM
sir vivian im afraid you are the n00b... you can't judge the whole clan by one person, and if you had a good grey turtle it is easy to beat a gold rush. enough said, if you want a real ass beating you should come and play me. :)
Binkpimp
07-16-2005, 03:32 AM
oh and another thing, if joker's wild is such a bunch of noobs, why are we the number one clan?
Sir Vivian
07-16-2005, 04:50 AM
rofl @ binkpimp - You don't know me :P. I can judge anything that I want because it's my opinion ^^ but as I didn't have a grey turtle it's saying something else eh? But from what I've heard, you are only the number one clan by 'points' - as in recruiting enough high ranked players to take you too the top. I used to be in Netjak and Bushido Gaiden; Whether they retain the same skill level as they once did I don't know but if so - Jokers Wild isn't at the top yet.
And yeah I know chanty + barrier ward are common but I've always used them; from my old skool rush (when golds never had furgon, mud quake, busher, wisp, etc.) to my developed formation. I suppose it's original starting placment is an anti-rush... for a whole turn o_O''
I actually recieved a PM from Naturo and I believe we have sorted things. In truth I had no intention of originally throwing down a screenshot of start, finish, etc. which means you can only go by my word (and my word is no more now trustful with my past lol!). In a way my screenshot through makes me look slightly bad XD hehe.
But thanks Streetgang, i'm quite impressed ;)
StreetGang
07-16-2005, 05:21 AM
I talked to Pimp. I had to explain what grey jumping meant and why its bad. I apologize for this. I'm going to have a talk withh our Army Aces and make sure their ppl all get a clear message about conduct. We can't assume ppl know what good conduct is. They have to be instructed and that's part of the leadership's job.
I think Pimp was sincere. I don't think this will be a problem with him again. But let me know if it is. I have to say the leadership on Army is to blame on this one, which means I'm to blame because I should make sure they are doing their job.
At least this will be a good example for me to use to show ppl why you have to talk with recruits. We posted conduct rules on the forum and on the website. But I think we need to explicitly inform each recruit and make sure they understand.
All I can say is I already recognize that recruiting operations are in need of fixing and previous to this thread we knew that and are taking steps. Please accept my apology, I need to take the blame on this, Pimp was ignorant, he is now informed.
StreetGang
07-16-2005, 05:22 AM
oh and another thing, if joker's wild is such a bunch of noobs, why are we the number one clan?
I admire your spirit buddy; however, we are not #1 as of last week.
Well, street gang, SHADOW KEPPERS COULD WHOOP UR ARSE SO BAD SO THAT U WON'T BA ABLE TO SIT DOWN FOR ANOTHER WEEK!
njoe, much as I hate msot of the people in JW, I must say your a way bigger nub :cool: I could pwn your whole clan
stiffy
07-16-2005, 08:22 AM
njoe, much as I hate msot of the people in JW, I must say your a way bigger nub :cool: I could pwn your whole clan
True
Wayfaerer
07-22-2005, 11:36 AM
Nah, njoe would rock Kyir's skill lacking, trash talking world :cool:
Wizzy`
07-22-2005, 06:02 PM
oh and another thing, if joker's wild is such a bunch of noobs, why are we the number one clan?
Oh yeah, you definetly are #1 I am on army all the time, you guys back down from gold challenges, Wild Joker yesterday backed down from a Netjaker, pretended he was dead, didnt talk, then one of his friends came on and started talking up a storm, then got challenged again, didnt answer. Started talking to his friend again.
So yeah, if your gold in JW stop playing Grays and step up.
Jigga Man
07-31-2005, 12:32 AM
I talked to Pimp. I had to explain what grey jumping meant and why its bad. I apologize for this. I'm going to have a talk withh our Army Aces and make sure their ppl all get a clear message about conduct. We can't assume ppl know what good conduct is. They have to be instructed and that's part of the leadership's job.
I think Pimp was sincere. I don't think this will be a problem with him again. But let me know if it is. I have to say the leadership on Army is to blame on this one, which means I'm to blame because I should make sure they are doing their job.
At least this will be a good example for me to use to show ppl why you have to talk with recruits. We posted conduct rules on the forum and on the website. But I think we need to explicitly inform each recruit and make sure they understand.
All I can say is I already recognize that recruiting operations are in need of fixing and previous to this thread we knew that and are taking steps. Please accept my apology, I need to take the blame on this, Pimp was ignorant, he is now informed.
Thats pretty much the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. I'm sorry, but thats not an excuse at all. "He didn't know any better" is an excuse that is used when 3 year olds tell someone that they are fat.
22woger22
07-31-2005, 12:39 AM
oh and another thing, if joker's wild is such a bunch of noobs, why are we the number one clan?
Actually, netjak.com is beating JW overall. You are also not number one in Rev, GL, Army and Banff.
http://www.netjak-tao.com/blog/
That will explain everything.
-22-
Dan_F_U
08-01-2005, 09:34 AM
once again another gold I dont kno. *Sigh* Cant wait til next wipe. I am goin on an expelling rampage. So I can care less if we lose 400 pts..i expect it :bigsmile: . Good job winning. Chanty is always great.
Now beating a gold rush isnt all that to brag about. I am sure if i all out rushed vs a great gold ...such as Megahizu. I am sure it will be very close..if not a loss by me. Beating turts however is another story especially opp sides. If the gold is new...you have a chance..but very hard to win vs a skiled gold opp sides turt. Please keep posting vs these golds cause im actually tryn to get a list together. later
Twelve
08-01-2005, 06:27 PM
*wink at Sir Vivian*
12
~Katzav~
08-01-2005, 06:37 PM
Yes Sir Vivian great win..
Sir Vivian
08-01-2005, 06:39 PM
Strangly enough, my formation does better against Gold Turtles :)
As long as blocks are equal I generally come out winning or a very close loss.
Office_Shredder
08-01-2005, 09:31 PM
it's easy enough to beat most gold turtles... since they don't have a lot of attacking units, the chanty/BW combo can do quite well.
That, and three knights can plow through a pair of scouts like it's nobody's business, armor or not.
As long as you make sure to pace your attack, you should be fine.
What's tough to beat is a gold setup using a frosty, stoned chanty, and poison wisp... do you know how bloody hard it is to attack that thing? :)
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