Exiled's Challenge Tournament.

[The Exile]

Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Exiled's Challenge Tournament.

The rules are simple. I will post challenges here, and it will be your job to go out and complete them!

Each challenge will have a reward attached to it indicative of its difficulty level. For example, if you complete challenge 1, you will gain 50 Challenge Points. However, once the challenge is completed by one person, the reward decreases by 10 points for the next completion... so you need to be quick defeating the challenges! The value for a challenge will never go below 10.

At the end of the tournament, the player with the most Challenge Points will be victorious. Perhaps a small prize can be arranged if one of the mods agrees. The tournament will last for several weeks, but remember, the sooner you complete the challenges the more points you will gain!

To complete a challenge satisfactorily, you need to take a clear screenshot of the start of the match, with the opponent's rating showing, and you saying "Challenge initiated", and another of the end of the match, saying "Challenge completed". THE SCREENSOT MUST SHOW THE FULL SCREEN, INCLUDING THE BAR SHOWING HOW MANY TAO WINDOWS YOU HAVE OPEN, to prevent cheating. Points will not be awarded if this rule is not obeyed. (new rule)

If the enemy surrenders, but it is clear that the challenge was going to be completed, you may gain the points at my discretion.

(Late) props to CRX, FryLock, and Lord Ducki for the original idea for this!

Stay tuned for new challenges every so often!

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Challenge 1: Grey Flawless Challenge

Using only 8 grey units (second scout does not qualify), defeat any player with a rating 900 or greater without losing a unit yourself. Current Reward: 10 Challenge Points.

Completed by: The Sniper
razor2007
KBHoleN1
Tacticion
Ciompi

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Challenge 2: Grey Endurance Challenge

Using only 7 grey units (second scout does not qualify), defeat any player with a rating 950 or greater. You must have at least 4 units remaining. Current Reward: 10 Challenge Points.

Completed by: The Sniper
Tacticion
razor2007
Ciompi

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Challenge 3: Freezer Madness Challenge

Using either 10 grey units, or 8 gold/grey units, freeze at least 6 enemy units, then win the game. You may not use more than 1 frost golem, and you may not use more than 2 enchantresses. Opponent must have a rating 850 or greater. Screenshots of the 6 frozen units are required as well as the beginning and end screenshots. Current Reward: 45 Challenge Points.

Completed by: The Sniper
Tacticion

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Challenge 4: Gold-only Challenge

Using ONLY golem units, beast units, and a single human unit of your choice, defeat another gold with rating 1200 or greater, or 900 or greater on Revelation. Current Reward: 15 Challenge Points.

Completed by: The Sniper
Ciompi

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Challenge 5: The Knights Who Say Nee

Using a furgon, 3 knights and 4 other units of your choice, defeat a 1250+ gold (900+ on Revelation). The furgon and at least 2 knights must survive the battle (so they can build their shrubbery). Nee! Current Reward: 35 Challenge Points.

Completed by: Ciompi

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Challenge 6: Healing Frenzy

You are permitted to use 1 cleric and any other 9 grey units, excluding further clerics. Your opponent must be rated above 950. During the battle, at least 4 of your units must be reduced to 5HP or less. Each unit has to be a different unit type (eg. knight, scout, assassin, pyro is permitted; 2 knights and 2 pyros are not). Screenshots of each must be taken with the cursor over the unit to indicate its HP level. Win the battle with 8 units remaining. This will require extra work (6 screenshots) so the reward (was) slightly higher: 35 Challenge Points.

Completed by: Tacticion
The Sniper
Ciompi

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Challenge 7: Chanty Rush

You may use any 10 grey units (this does NOT include the second scout). Your opponent must be rated above 950. You must paralyse the enemy cleric while the opponent still has at least 3 mobile attacking units remaining on the field. Then win the game. This requires 3 screenshots (start, end, and the cleric paralysed). Current Reward: 40 Challenge Points. (This challenge brought to you courtesy of CRX.)

Completed by: Ciompi

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Challenge 8: Double Turtle Challenge

You may use any 10 units excluding the dragon. Your initial position must be two "stone clusters" in either corner of the board, for example:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4516/challengeexample5rw.jpg

You must defeat a 1300+ gold (950+ on Revelation) with this formation, losing no more than 6 units yourself, and no more than 3 from each "cluster". Avoiding bombs is highly recommended :wink2:. Current Reward: 55 Challenge Points.

Completed by:

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Challenge 9: Protect The Foe

You may use any 10 grey units, including any drops, but not the second scout. During the battle, one of each enemy mobile unit type must be barriered by YOU. For example, against a player using 2 knights, scout, assassin, pyro, witch, LW, BW, cleric and enchantress, you must barrier a knight, the scout, the assassin, the pyro, the witch, the cleric and the enchantress. You do NOT need to win the game. Opponent must be rated 900 or greater. Screenshots of each barriered unit is required (and yes, I know this is a lot), so your reward will be: 50 Challenge Points.

Good luck chasing the cleric into your BW range. :)

Edit: This isn't much of a challenge if you have loads of BWs (as Ciompi showed), so I am now altering the rules slightly. You may now only use 1 drop of your chioce, and if it is a BW, they have to be within 4 spaces of each other. Just to make the cleric-chasing a little harder.

Completed by: Ciompi
Tacticion

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Challenge 10: Ward Off Your Opponent

You may use any 7 grey units, but you MUST include a cleric which is placed in one corner of the board, which must be surrounded by wards on both sides, and a scout. Against a 900+ opponent, win the game with only your scout, cleric and wards remaining. (You are NOT permitted to kill any of your own surviving units either.) Ignore the melee and go for the range... Current Reward: 30 Challenge Points.

Completed by: Ciompi (took him about half an hour)

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Challenge 11: Weapons Of Mass Destruction

You may use any 10 units of your choice, including any drops and gold units. Against a 1100 or higher rated player (grey or gold), your challenge is to kill 5 units in 1 turn. Obviously the best way to do this is use a wisp and mud golem combination, but a pyromancer kill is also possible... Obviously, you will probably need to remove the enemy cleric first (although if you can manage to complete the challenge without doing this, your points will be doubled). Screenshots of the start of the battle, the start of the 5-kill turn and the end of the 5-kill turn are required. Current Reward: 50 Challenge Points.

Completed by: Ciompi

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More coming soon.

[The Exile]

Current Challenge Point standings:

Ciompi: 435 Points.
The Sniper: 245 Points.
Tacticion: 230 Points.
razor2007: 60 Points.
KBHoleN1: 30 Points.

[razor2007]

Damn I just missed Challenge #1. He got a scout front shot that killed it. I started with 8 units but finished with 7, can I get credit for the endurance. I mean I ahd a high enuf proportion? :notworth: :unsure:

[Forest_Archer]

Hmm.. great idea! Though it is a little selfish, having people do these things for you ;) . Maybe it can be a Community Tournament instead!

Btw, 'tis sad that my high-tec comp can't go through the screenshot process..

EDIT: One more thing, Exile, please state that you can not defeat the challenges with a clan member because I know a pretty creative way to cheat if you could! (Psst, anyone here wanna let me flawless them with some grey units?) Kinda thing.

[razor2007]

Cmon F-A. Clan members is the easiest way to do this without bombin stat. I mean yeah u could cheat, but I wouldn't.

EDIT: OH well, everyone tell me I should be willing to lose stat for this so disregard that post.

[Forest_Archer]

"... But I wouldn't cheat."
Famous last words.

I'm not accusing you of cheating, but I think, and Exiled would probably agree, that you should be willing to lose stats for this tournament. Or else you aren't really deserving the prize. I'm so wise, aren't I? :)

[razor2007]

FUNSUCKER! I'm sad to say I'm very protective of my stat so I'll find as many ways around it as possible.

[Rogue_Wolf]

*Goes out and creates several random greys*

I've got this in the bag :cool:

-Rogue_Wolf

(I'm joking, obviously. I'm just pointing out how easily it will be to cheat in this tourney, even without clan members helping. Sorry Exiled :( )

[Terps rock]

Wonders where in the "crx" he got the idea to hold this.

[CRX687]

Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Exiled's Challenge Tournament.

The rules are simple. I will post challenges here, and it will be your job to go out and complete them!

Each challenge will have a reward attached to it indicative of its difficulty level. For example, if you complete challenge 1, you will gain 50 Challenge Points. However, once the challenge is completed by one person, the reward decreases by 10 points for the next completion... so you need to be quick defeating the challenges!

At the end of the tournament, the player with the most Challenge Points will be victorious. Perhaps a small prize can be arranged if one of the mods agrees. The tournament will last for several weeks, but remember, the sooner you complete the challenges the more points you will gain!

To complete a challenge satisfactorily, you need to take a clear screenshot of the start of the match, with the opponent's rating showing, and you saying "Challenge initiated", and another of the end of the match, saying "Challenge completed".

If the enemy surrenders, but it is clear that the challenge was going to be completed, you may gain the points at my discretion.

Stay tuned for new challenges every so often!

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Challenge 1: Grey Flawless Challenge

Using only 8 grey units (second scout does not qualify), defeat any player with a rating 900 or greater without losing a unit yourself. Reward: 50 Challenge Points.

Completed by:

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Challenge 2: Grey Endurance Challenge

Using only 7 grey units (second scout does not qualify), defeat any player with a rating 950 or greater. You must have at least 4 units remaining. Reward: 40 Challenge Points.

Completed by:

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Challenge 3: Freezer Madness Challenge

Using either 10 grey units, or 8 gold/grey units, freeze at least 6 enemy units, then win the game. You may not use more than 1 frost golem, and you may not use more than 2 enchantresses. Opponent must have a rating 850 or greater. Screenshots of the 6 frozen units are required as well as the beginning and end screenshots. Reward: 65 Challenge Points.

Completed by:

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Challenge 4: Gold-only Challenge

Using ONLY golem units, beast units, and a single human unit of your choice, defeat another gold with rating 1200 or greater, or 900 or greater on Revelation. Reward: 35 Challenge Points.

Completed by:

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More coming soon.


What's this? you won't even give me, fry, or ducki credit for this?! :dry: :mad:

[Vie]

I like the Idea but I cant imageshackmy screenies I post my screenies on Micrsoft word

[The Exile]

Whoops, sorry crx, I did mean to write "original idea by" but completely forgot amongst all the other things I had to write...

Looks like it won't get off the ground anyway. Ah well.

As for those who say it's easy to cheat... well yes it is, but any suspicion of that and I would have simply given them -100 points instead. :cool:

[razor2007]

Wait, does that mean we aren't supposed to use our grey account?

[The Exile]

I think they mean that it is possible to open 2 windows and cheat that way.

It doesn't look like anyone's interested in any case...

[Vie]

Exile I think the only reason no1 is interested is cuz u made the callenges like almost impossible have u passed each of these challenges before u made them?

[Forest_Archer]

:huh:

No, Vie, you're just confused.

[The Exile]

I made the challenges *wait for it* challenging. I myself completed them after a few attempts. You need a bit of luck for some of them, but they are achievable if you are a good player.

Unfortunately, you're not a good player, so you're not likely to complete them. :)

[Wolfman]

well exile,

i wait to see who will win this.

btw... too busy lately, n i cant participate in this.

i wish Bot n Fry is here to win this.

I MISSED BOT N FRY!

wolfy

[Lonely Tylenol]

I am unable to do the Freezer Madness challenge, since I am not a capable Chanty user.

I will do my best to do the other three though, if this gets started.

[The Sniper]

Challenge: complete

Whoa, that took a while but here it is. :)

http://home.comcast.net/~osis/extorneystart1.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~osis/extorneyfinish1.JPG

[razor2007]

Snipe, you started with 9 units and 2 scouts. I think what he meant was that 2nd scout doesn't count as a grey unit.

[Lonely Tylenol]

One of those Scouts is black.

And if it isn't, then his opponent started with only 9 units as well. ;)

Gotta say he earned those 50 points.

[The Sniper]

Snipe, you started with 9 units and 2 scouts. I think what he meant was that 2nd scout doesn't count as a grey unit.
He got first turn so he moved his scout up before I could get an s/s. I am grey how could I have 2 scouts, plus look at the colors! :p

Challenge 2: complete

http://home.comcast.net/~osis/extorneystart2.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~osis/extorneyfinish2.JPG

PS- I was about to freeze both his knights and mine next turn leaving my scout to kill his cleric.

[The Exile]

Well done, Sniper. Your points are awarded.

Anyone else going to have a go? :wink2:

[razor2007]

Trying, but failing.

[razor2007]

I hope surrenders count. I was in a game with this 900+ and he left, BUT I was well on my way to flawlessing. In the pic you can see my scout was about to undo his BW then my knight was gonna kill his scout at 20. then I just had to pick off the pyro and he was mine as he couldn't defeat my chanty.

Initiated (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=challenge12ss.jpg)

Completed (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=challenge1done3io.jpg)

EDIT: The conversation was revolving around him trying to get me to type CLERICS EXPERT without the space to get a 2nd cleric. And then he whined about of all thigns an assassin side hit, so i whined right back.

Yes after i undid BW he could've healed, but my knight was still in range to kill.

[The Exile]

Had any of your units taken any significant damage?

[Tacticion]

Razor were you brown or red?

[razor2007]

I was brown. The scout was at 18 dues to a pyro hit on the last turn, but I had both cleric and BW ready if need be.

[The Exile]

Then I believe the challenge could certainly have been completed given the situation. And the fact that your opponent is a complete idiot. :dry:

Maybe I ought to up the rating levels now that the wipe is long gone... :wink2:

Your points are awarded.

[Piellama28]

but the guy still had 2 knites guarding the cleric. doesn't that make a difference? :huh:

[kirby]

Can you email me the time for the next tournerment please my email adddress is danieltennant@bluebottle.com
cheers from kirby

[Tacticion]

wtf kirby...
but pie thats what I thought, but I guess since Ex says yes, its his tourney.

[The Exile]

It's quite simple. Once the scout and the pyromancer were dead (which was likely to happen soon), the enchantress could deal with the 2 knights very easily if they were attacking, and the scout could get the cleric if he defended.

I could most certainly pull it off with ease; therefore, I am awarding the points.

[Piellama28]

i had a feelin it had somethin to do with the chanty, but i wasn't sure. well then, well done razor. :bigsmile: :)

[~Katzav~]

Ill give it a go..great job Exiled and Crx and Duckie this took some work to create.. Props

[The Sniper]

Definitely the hardest challenge yet, well at least the most frustrating. Twice I had 5 of my opponents units frozen, then they left. Anyway I finally did it!

Initiated (http://home.comcast.net/~osis/Extorneystart3.JPG)
Complete (http://home.comcast.net/~osis/Extorneyfinish3.JPG)

PS- It would make it way more fun if more people did the challenges!

[The Exile]

Congratulations, Sniper, I agree that was probably the hardest challenge. :)

Is nobody other than Sniper and razor interested? :(

[KBHoleN1]

I feel like I'm missing out, a late start, but I will do my best to catch up:

Challenge 1 completed:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/5423/challenge1a2us.png

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/6103/challenge1b7nd.png

Against a 2 drop form, first try, that kid got spanked :bigsmile: .

P.S. - It's my birthday :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

[Tacticion]

First Challenge Completed

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5396/8unitflawlesswinstart2vy.jpg ([URL=http://imageshack.us)

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2661/8unitflawlessend4kz.jpg ([URL=http://imageshack.us)

PS. Sorry KB I used your form, but it works. :)

[Tacticion]

Challenge 2 Completed

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9176/7unitwinstart5ls.jpg ([URL=http://imageshack.us)

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5076/7unitwinend3ln.jpg ([URL=http://imageshack.us)

[razor2007]

Initiated (http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=challenge2again0lz.jpg)

Completed (http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=challenge2completed2ad.jpg)

Another Joker bites the dust? Man, he whined all the way down too. Couldn't understand that if I surrendered I didn't get any points in the tourney.

EDIT: Oh yeah, It's hard to tell who's who. All units facing bottom of the board are mine, all facing the top are his. A close inspection of the colors will prove that to be the case.

And on the knights who say nee, can we get a Rev. rating as well?

[The Exile]

A couple of things.

Well done to those completing the challenges... but you don't have to go through them in numerical order. You can go for whichever ones you want... indeed, the latter ones still have the most points available...

Secondly, a new rule has been implemented. You must now take screenshots of the FULL screen, including the bar at the bottom, to show that you do not have more than 1 TAO window open. If you do not abide by this rule, you will NOT receive the points.

Finally, a new challenge and the rev rating requirements for Challenge 5 is now in place. Good luck!

[Tacticion]

damnit does this count for Challenge 5. I screwed up the first shot but I got the last one, and you can go on banff and check his stats...

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9436/remantsoldierwin5ez.jpg

i guess Ill just do it again if this does'nt count. :(

[emerald slasher]

am i too late to enter?

[KBHoleN1]

am i too late to enter?
there was really no sign-up, so just start playing the challenges and post your wins :bigsmile:

[Tacticion]

Challenge 6: completed

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6918/untitled0hv.jpg ([URL=http://imageshack.us)

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2376/untitled29aw.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1508/untitled33wb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2402/untitled47yf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2025/untitled53hm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9845/untitled64jl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[KBHoleN1]

^^^^ Mad props, I can't seem to get anything else, its driving me crazy, especially that one human unit thing, grrrr... Do contraptions count as human units?

[Forest_Archer]

Contraptions are contraption, a.k.a. no. Do they breath? Do they move? Nope.

Nice, Tact.

[Tacticion]

Challenge 3: Completed

http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/7093/whopudgewinstart7bu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/3835/whopudgewinend1py.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[The Sniper]

Start (http://home.comcast.net/~osis/Exchallengestart61.JPG)

Knight (http://home.comcast.net/~osis/Exchallengeknight62.JPG)

Dark Magic Witch (http://home.comcast.net/~osis/Exchallengedmw63.JPG)

Cleric (http://home.comcast.net/~osis/Exchallengecleric64.JPG)

Assassin (http://home.comcast.net/~osis/Exchallengeassassin65.JPG)

Finish (http://home.comcast.net/~osis/Exchallengefinish66.JPG)

[The Exile]

Contraptions are contraption, a.k.a. no. Do they breath? Do they move? Nope.

Nice, Tact.
Excuse me, who's referee here?

Contraptions are listed under human units, therefore they are NOT permitted.

Well, looks like Tacticion is coming on strong... however, I cannot allow the challenge 5 screenshot, since there is no proof that you used only 8 units. Sorry.

[Tacticion]

Yeah I understand, I will just have to keep trying.

[razor2007]

Dang, mad props for those tact. This is quite nice.

[Forest_Archer]

Exiled, I don't mean to be snobby, but when was the last time someone (who wasn't mentally ill) say "Hey! Don't punch that truck! It's a human being!"

Lol.

Good luck to the rest of the competitors. Sniper you are clearly a beast at this thing.

[Tacticion]

Hey hey hey FA I had the lead for a couple hours :bigsmile:, but I'm still only Down by 40.

[The Sniper]

I know it's only 9-7 but I think it's pretty clear that I was going to have him. Also my GA was about to kill his.

Start (http://home.comcast.net/~osis/Extorneystart4.JPG)

Finish (http://home.comcast.net/~osis/Extorneyfinish4.JPG)

[The Exile]

Exiled, I don't mean to be snobby, but when was the last time someone (who wasn't mentally ill) say "Hey! Don't punch that truck! It's a human being!"
You're lucky you haven't completed any challenges yet, or you would just have lost yourself 10 points. :p

I make the rules. If you don't like them, don't play the challenge. :cool:

I clearly stated "1 human unit allowed". Since Wards come in the Human Unit section, they count for this challenge. I didn't say the wards were alive did I?

[KBHoleN1]

And technically in the challenge it says Golem and Beast units only, with one human unit. So regardless you couldn't use a contraption even if it weren't human. I pretty much knew the answer when I asked the question, just wanted to make sure. I've had a busy week and haven't been playing, and I'm going out of town this weekend, so these challenges aren't being completed anytime soon by me.

[Ciompi]

Challenge 7: Chanty Rush: Completed.

Thank you Exile, that was an excellent challenge. You ought to keep making these. It isn’t much of a tournament per se but the challenges are fun to try when you’re bored of typical gray games.

First Screen Shot: Opening (forgive the idiotic mispelling, I obviously meant to say "initiated") (http://img350.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c1edited7tl.jpg)

Second Screen Shot: Paralyzed Cleric (http://img350.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c2edited5kx.jpg)

Third Screen Shot: Game Over (http://img350.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c3edited2zj.jpg)

[Ciompi]

Challenge 6: Healing Frenzy: Completed.

Screen Shot 1: Opening (http://img351.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d1edited2uw.jpg)

Screen Shot 2: First wounded unit (http://img351.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d2edited0ia.jpg)

Screen Shot 3: Second wounded unit (http://img351.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d3edited2tt.jpg)

Screen Shot 4: Third wounded unit (http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d4edited3yn.jpg)

Screen Shot 5: Fourth wounded unit (http://img351.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d5edited6sn.jpg)

Screen Shot 6: Game Over (http://img351.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d6edited9eo.jpg)

[The Exile]

Well done, Ciompi. However, this has reenforced a problem that was apparent to me when I made Challenge 6, which is that conceivably (if the opponent doesn't surrender) you could reduce the opponent to a minimal number of units, and then inflict the damage yourself with ease. This is not much of a challenge, so for this point on a new rule has been put in place for that challenge: the enemy must have at least 3 mobile damage units remaining when the 4th unit is reduced to less than 5HP. The people who have already completed the challenge are not affected.

Also, remember, the credit for the chanty rush challenge has to go to CRX.

A new challenge will be released shortly...

[Ciompi]

Challenge 9: Protect The Foe: Completed. Man that was a pain.

Screen Shot 1: Opening (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c16qd.jpg)

Screen Shot 2: Scout (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c24xo.jpg)

Screen Shot 3: Knight (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c31ts.jpg)

Screen Shot 4: Witch (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c46mn.jpg)

Screen Shot 5: Pyromancer (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c52ey.jpg)

Screen Shot 6: Assassin (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c64ly.jpg)

Screen Shot 7: Cleric (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c72za.jpg)

[The Exile]

I know that took a lot of hard work, ciompi, but I'm afraid I can't allow it.

The message "in range yet" is what bothers me. If you told him what the challenge is, and he allowed you to do it, then you will NOT be awarded points. Indeed, if it happens again I will remove points. You are supposed to use your skill to entice/force the cleric into BW range, not ask your opponent to do it.

This goes for everyone. The slightest hint of something like this and I will deduct points, not award them.

[Ciompi]

As can be seen by the dialogue in the Witch screen shot, he thought I was an amusing and incompetent fool. I never told him I was trying to complete a challenge, he thought I was just a noob having a good time. This is also indicated in the dialogue in the Pyromancer screen shot. Whether or not you end up changing your mind, at least look at those screen shots again.

At the end, when my defeat was imminent, I DID ask him to move his cleric into my barrier ward range which he happily did, being so amused by what he took as silly noobishness. As I did not explain to him what I was doing (though he obviously figured out that I wanted to barrier all his units, which is totally unavoidable in this challenge) or why I was doing it (he thought I was just a silly noob) and as there was absolutely nothing in the first post to indicate otherwise, I believe what I did was within the rules.

However, it is your tournament so essentially everything is under your discretion so I will abide by your decision. I would ask that you clarify exactly what you are allowed to say and what you are not allowed to say, for future reference. I’m not trying to be a pain here, I just don’t want to waste another two hours.

The concept of this particular challenge is an excellent one by the way.

[Ciompi]

I just did the ninth challenge again, I will be posting the screenshots momentarily. The only words I spoke the entire match were "challenge initiated".

Edit: The account I used for this challenge was transtation's. Someone was yelling out his password in the lobby a couple of days ago and I took note of it. I went on the account and noticed the extra two barrier wards and decided to use the account for the challenge, noting that you specified that you could use any grey drops you wanted. Obviously the poor guy just lost some stats because naturally, I lost the battle. No worries, I'll get them back for him.

By the way, take a look at my opening setup and imagine just how annoyed I was when I saw the location of his cleric. ;)

http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c17xs.jpg (note the number of open windows at the bottom)

http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c25bg.jpg

http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c36pj.jpg

http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c47zp.jpg

http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c53er.jpg

http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c69ao.jpg

http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c71vf.jpg

[Ciompi]

Challenge 5: The Knights Who Say Nee: Completed.

I used transtation's account again and won him four points with this battle. There are two minor issues, I hope neither are relevant. The first is that, as you can see from the screenies, my opponent is a grey with gold units, not technically a gold. But defeating him was as hard as defeating any gold, obviously, and his stats were adequate so I hope that won't matter.

The other thing is that I was a couple of turns late in taking the first screeny. What is missed is that my opponent moved his scout (the one on the side) up next to his knights. Then I shrubbed the side. Then he moved his other scout forward down the middle and took a shot at my furgon. Then I remembered to take the screeny (and as you can see, right after taking the screeny I paralyzed his scout). I know I goofed that up, I should have taken it right off but as you can see the proof is there that I did in fact complete the challenge.

A couple of other quick notes, I talked very little. I said "challenge initiated" and a little after that my opponent asked why I wasn't in a clan. I didn't feel like explaining that I was actually a grey so I just said I don't like clans. The only other thing I said is seen in the second screeny. "No way" was referring to his front knight hit on my knight which left to hide behind the scout because its HP had dropped to 3 and I couldn't afford to lose another knight. Shortly after that my opponent figured out that he was clearly doomed, having lost his second scout and having no reliable way to break my frosty's focus so he left. I am supremely confident that while it's possible I'd have lost a scout and maybe the cleric, I wouldn't have lost the other key pieces and I surely would have won (though the one knight was a bit on the ropes).

I enjoyed that one a lot, an excellent challenge. And naturally I love the monty python reference. :bigsmile:

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[Tacticion]

Challenge 9 is done...

Start (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=startchallenge94rp.jpg)

Cleric (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clericc97gf.jpg)

Assasin (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=assasinc97so.jpg)

Witch (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=witchc93kb.jpg)

Scout (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scoutc98mu.jpg)

Pyro (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pyroc90ht.jpg)

Knight (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=knightc95tf.jpg)

End (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=endchallenge95vb.jpg)

[Forest_Archer]

Can I make a challenge? I noticed that some of the challenges are submitted by CRX.

Challenge (# 11?): Assassin Explosion Challenge

Using only 7 grey units and no cleric or assassin drops, you must screenshot the start. After you do that, during the game, use your assassin to explode 1 opponent piece (10 pts.), 2 opponent pieces (20pts.), 3 opponent pieces (35 pts.), or 4 opponent pieces (55 pts.).

Whatcha think, Ex? :cool:

[The Exile]

Well, the whole point is that the faster you complete the challenge, the more points you get. There's no way to decrease points on that challenge. Secondly, it's FAR too easy to get 20 points, and virtually impossible to get more. And finally, when I said original idea by CRX, I meant that he posted these challenges in the Netjak Challenge tournament (which I got the idea from), so strictly speaking I'm not taking invitation challenges. (Unless I think it's a really good one. :wink2: )

Now, Ciompi. Your challenge 9 completion is again suspicious, as you could conceivably have told him to move the cleric into BW range and then covered it up with rating checks, but I think you're a respectable enough person now you know not to do that, so I'm awarding the points. The challenge 5 completion is more risky in my view, especially with the 2 clerics preventing a kill unless you really concentrated on a unit, allowing a knight to hack its way through to the frost and also with your knight injured... but again, I believe you could pull it off with a spot of good play, so I'm awarding the points for that too. Well done.

Tacticion, yours is also fine.

New challenge released soon, as Ciompi seems to be going through them like an express train...

Edit: You seem to have noticed that one or two of the challenges are designed for you to lose the game. That is intentional, as it will show you that ratings are less important than a bit of good fun and a challenge :)

And also:

At the end, when my defeat was imminent, I DID ask him to move his cleric into my barrier ward range which he happily did, being so amused by what he took as silly noobishness. As I did not explain to him what I was doing (though he obviously figured out that I wanted to barrier all his units, which is totally unavoidable in this challenge) or why I was doing it (he thought I was just a silly noob) and as there was absolutely nothing in the first post to indicate otherwise, I believe what I did was within the rules.
There was nothing in the rules to indictate this, which is my mistake. I will change that right now, and make it very clear. ASKING YOUR OPPONENT FOR HELP COMPLETING THE CHALLENGES IS NOT PERMITTED.

Ciompi, you were within your rights to attempt this as there was no rule otherwise at the time, and I'm not accusing you of cheating. You can't cheat a rule that hasn't been written down.

[Ciompi]

Now, Ciompi. Your challenge 9 completion is again suspicious, as you could conceivably have told him to move the cleric into BW range and then covered it up with rating checks, but I think you're a respectable enough person now you know not to do that, so I'm awarding the points.
I’m sure you noticed I became much more thorough in explaining all possible problems. This is one that I forgot about. At the top of the screen shot are the words “you have left your clan” (or something like it). I was using an account with high ratings and no clan so some noob sent me an invite. I typed /join followed very quickly by /leave but by doing so, I ended up with the noobish welcome message which I didn’t want to look at. So I did what I always do, stat a few times to get rid of it. Just like forgetting to take the screeny in the very beginning of the other game, it’s just a mistake on my part that I’ll avoid in the future. By the way, I thought I would have to do the challenge over again because his stupid cleric wouldn’t move. I attacked it with one knight and left it there, hoping the threat would make him leave. The problem was that at that point in the game, he didn’t need a cleric at all to win I was so obliterated so he didn’t seem to care. After all my remaining units were over there, for some reason he decided to go ahead and move the cleric (much to my relief).
The challenge 5 completion is more risky in my view, especially with the 2 clerics preventing a kill unless you really concentrated on a unit, allowing a knight to hack its way through to the frost and also with your knight injured... but again, I believe you could pull it off with a spot of good play, so I'm awarding the points for that too. Well done.
Well, clearly my opponent was convinced his efforts would be futile, which is why he left. Either that or he just can’t stand hard battles and prefers to wipe people out easily, which is possible I suppose, especially because he uses double clerics. But it is certainly possible he could have gotten that knight, though I think extremely unlikely he would have won. But that brings up another question worthy of consideration. Where does the opponent’s surrender factor into all this? What if my odds of completing this challenge had been really small and yet still my opponent surrendered or left? What then and where do you draw the line?
Ciompi, you were within your rights to attempt this as there was no rule otherwise at the time, and I'm not accusing you of cheating. You can't cheat a rule that hasn't been written down.
This is of utmost importance to me. I’m a bit incompetent at times, granted, but I’m okay with that. I’m not okay with my integrity being in question so this is a relief. :)

[The Exile]

But that brings up another question worthy of consideration. Where does the opponent’s surrender factor into all this? What if my odds of completing this challenge had been really small and yet still my opponent surrendered or left? What then and where do you draw the line?
I have already posted that if I felt the challenge was going to be completed, I will award points at my discretion. Personally, I could have pulled off the challenge from your position (so long as your opponent didn't know he only had to kill a knight to get you to surrender) so I'm awarding the points. I like to think the best of people. :)

[Ciompi]

Challenge 10: Ward Off Your Opponent: Completed.

I felt a little bad about this one considering my luck has never been better. I killed his scout early with three straight side hits and then his assassin with two straight side hits. Of course, he shouldn't have left them so vulnerable but the luck was pretty bad for him. Oh well, screenies:

http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c18fy.jpg

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[The Exile]

Ciompi, I hereby ban you from doing any challenges for at least 3 days. You're going through them faster than I can make them up. :p

[Ciompi]

lol. There are still some challenges that I haven't attempted yet. I'd like to do the third but I don't have two chanties and I will NEED two chanties.

Challenge 2 Completed.

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Okay, going to bed now.

[Ciompi]

I completed the gold only challenge with the golems and beast units and then gave the guy a rematch which I also won. And of course Murphy's law showed up to bite me in the butt. My computer crashed as I was saving the opening screenshot. I do have the final shot, which shows the obvious victory and it also shows all of my opening units, as he didn't kill any. The most difficult aspect of losing the opening screenshot is proving the guy's stats. His stats were 1206 as I recall, just barely over. After losing to the upper 1400 account twice, his stats dropped to 1194. I took a screenshot of his and my stats after I got my crap computer going again. You can see the times of the screenshots in the corner.

There's nothing else I can do to prove I did the challenge, that I'm aware of. I'll be bummed if you rule that it doesn't count but obviously, I'll understand if you do that. You have your rules set up for good reasons. Though of course, I think the evidence in my favor is pretty compelling, otherwise I wouldn't bother to post this without the opening screenshot.

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[The Exile]

How come all your screenshots cause problem Ciompi?

Anyway, that's fine. You're lucky I'm generous.

Now, save some challenges for later and do something else. And give everyone else a chance to catch up.

[Ciompi]

How come all your screenshots cause problem Ciompi?
Good question, ask my crap computer. At least when there are problems it’s still clear what happened. Maybe I should change my username to incompetent.

[I'malive24/7]

damn. challenge 11 is impossible. I've spent the last 45 minutes trying. no one ever has 5 units in the same place unless we both agree to turtle... :dry:

[Ciompi]

damn. challenge 11 is impossible. I've spent the last 45 minutes trying. no one ever has 5 units in the same place unless we both agree to turtle... :dry:
Yeah, I've tried it too. I think the only way it could work would be to have a really, really stupid opponent that doesn't leave early in the game. Either that, or be really lucky or absolutely brilliant.

[The Exile]

I've done it before. With 6 kills. (If you include dragon as 2.) :cool:

[Ciompi]

So was your opponent an idiot, were you really lucky or are you a bona fide genius (or is it a combo?)?

[KBHoleN1]

So was your opponent an idiot, (odds are good judging from the average TAO populace)
were you really lucky (any maneuver requires at least some luck :p )
or are you a bona fide genius (well, ermm, ehh, I'd say yes)
(or is it a combo?)? (so the answer to this is also a yes)

there you go :bigsmile:

[The Exile]

In no way was my opponent an idiot. However, he did fence himself in with his furgon, and I killed his cleric, and purposely reduced all his units to about 1-8 HP. He knew what was coming, and played on so he could watch it... you just need someone who's a good sport, willing to play a turtle, and likes to defend :)

Enough hints, I thought you were the expert challenge completer :p

[Ciompi]

Enough hints, I thought you were the expert challenge completer
You definitely thought wrong. :cool: I’m not very good at gold. I’m thinking I’ll try it with a chanty.

[Ciompi]

Challenge 11: Weapons Of Mass Destruction: At freaking long last, completed.

You were right Exile, you need someone that is a good sport. I tried this challenge like fifty times and only once found someone that was a good enough sport to have a chance at this and by that time the guy only had three units left. We had fun and pounded them anyway.

Then I got in a game with this guy who had a setup with a ton of drops, not likely to succeed against me considering my dragon, scouts and muddy (all of them armored). So I sent in my muddy and started shooting guys and instead of letting me kill them all at once, he started finishing his stinking guys off himself! Oh he was having a ball (though my hairs were greying at the prospect of losing this prime opportunity to complete the stinkin' challenge). Fortunately, he still had five guys left for my muddy which we wounded enough to kill them all in one go. The cleric was still alive (fortunately) because he wasn't done having fun. He wanted him trapped in a furgy forest and then fried by the lightning ward. Finding someone that thinks that kind of thing is fun is not easy, especially when you're trying to find someone with decent stats. Here are the screenies:

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Also, Challenge number 1 completed.

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[The Exile]

Hmm. Are you me in disguise, Ciompi? (In the netjak challenges, I currently have twice as many points as second place.)

I'll have to think of some other fiendishly evil challenge. Give me a few days.

[Ciompi]

Hmm. Are you me in disguise, Ciompi? (In the netjak challenges, I currently have twice as many points as second place.)
If I was, how could anyone know? ;)
I'll have to think of some other fiendishly evil challenge. Give me a few days.
No hurry, I don't expect to be able to finish that stupid cluster turtle challenge anytime soon (though I'm working on it). And I can't do the freezer madness one till I get a second chanty.

But I'm getting busier anyway so you have some time.

By the way, has everyone else lost interest in this?

[The Exile]

Seems so. You've made it no competition. :(

[Ciompi]

It doesn't seem like that's how it ought to be. I just started doing them for the fun of it, I'm just tired of the same type of game over and over.

What would you think of a challenge involving beating a gold with like, 1300+ stats as a gray without drops? You could set up different rewards depending on the stats. If you beat a 1300+ gold, you could award say, 30 points. If you beat a 1400+ gold, 50 points, etc. Just an idea.

[Ciompi]

Hey Exile, if I can beat twelve's invincible anti-grey formation do I get like a million challenge points? :p