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Wolfman
08-05-2005, 07:25 PM
The Revelation vs. Legends Invitational Tournament


Introduction
Many wonder how is a good player defined; is it by his stats? is it by his reputation? Or is it by which players he beat? Truth be told it’s very hard to define a good player because of the so many different playing styles that exist in TAO. A true good player should be able to cope with all the different situation, not necessarily with one formation however, because there is no one formation to defeat them all. Inspired by the Davis Cup I thought to design a tournament that will test all around the skills of the player to truly determine which server has the better players and this is how the tournament will run.

Teams
Naturally there will be two teams, one for the Legends server and one for the Revelation server, each with seven players and two substitutes.

One of the seven will be the team captain, who is not necessarily the best at a specific skill, but is best all around.

There will be two substitute players who will play in case of no shows.

Once the teams are declared and the games have started you cannot change the team composition. Hence please be sure that ALL players on your team can access the Revelation server as it makes use of a different port and server. Also please be sure all players are able to commit to six matches each.

We request that all participants make sure they have an active account in the TAO forums (www.tacticsarena.com/forums) as this is how communication will be brought about.

The competition
To cover the main skills in TAO there will be 3 events. In no event are unit drops allowed, but more specific details about allowed formation follow:

Grey vs. Grey
A test of the basics, only default grey units are allowed. Meaning any combination of ten of the following:

• 1 Lightening ward
• 1 Barrier Ward
• 1 Dark Magic Witch
• 1 Cleric
• 1 Assassin
• 1 Enchantress
• 2 Pyromancers
• 1 Scout
• 3 Knights

Turtle vs. Turtle
This event is for the old school tacticians, to assure turtles are indeed used some guidelines must be followed concerning the formation:

- No Dragon Speaker mage are allowed on board.
- No Ambusher allowed on board.
- A stone golem must be included in the formation.
- At least eight out of the ten units are to be placed on one side of the board, where the middle counts as in the side where the least units are found.

Freestyle
Any combination basic gold units is allowed as long as not unit drops are used, meaning any ten of the following in any formation:

1 Lightening ward
1 Barrier Ward
1 Dark Magic Witch
1 Dragon Speaker Mage
1 Beast Rider
1 Dragon (counts as 2 units)
1 Mud Golem
1 Frost Golem
1 Stone Golem
1 Furgon
1 Cleric
1 Assassin
1 Enchantress
2 Pyromancers
2 Scouts (!)
3 Knights
1 Wisp
1 Ambusher


The running of events
All events will have five contestants per team, who each be facing three opponents from the opposing team, bringing the total games to 15 per events.

The opponents whom a player will face will be drawn at random in such a manner where each player will play 3 games.

Each player will be allowed to participate in two events, which have to be pre-declared before any event take place.

The team captain will play in all three events.

The team with the most victories in a specific event will receive a point.

In case of a tie between the two teams, the team captains will play each other once more to determine where the point goes.

All events are run on the Revelation server.

A failure to show up for a match will result in losing that match. Unless one of the substitutes immediately shows up. If the player in question has yet to play a game, the substitute will play his second game as well.

It is the responsibility of the individuals to make sure they meet this can be done anyway they see fit. The recommended ay is via private messages in the TAO forums.

A screenshot will be needed as proof of victory in all matches in case your victory is challenged. We ask the players to be honest or they will face sanctions. The reports are to be made to RevVsLeg@gmail.com by the winner of the match in the following format:

Event
Player 1 vs. Player 2
Winner

Example:
Turtle vs. Turtle
Snarr vs. theburning
Snarr won

We will then use this information to update the standings found in the forums.[/color]

Winning
The team who wins 2 or 3 events wins the overall competition.

The winning team will have the right to brag unless it came down to a tie in the determining event where the leaders sparred with each other. While this is done to determine a winner the servers will be said to be truly matched if it comes to that.

The winning team will also receive anywhere from a pat on the back to a handshake from yours truly.

Problems
In the case of special problems please address the theburning or Snarr at RevVsLeg@gmail.com OR contact DivineRight at goldaccounts@tacticsarena.com Private messages in the forums can also be used. We will need contacts at Legends as well who will help organise and can be turned to.

Any decisions which will be jointly taken by the organisers surpass any rules stated above.

Any dishonesty by participants will lead to their disqualification and two victories awarded for the other team. If the captain is guilty of such actions his team will lose automatically.

Last words
Remember this is a game so play it and have fun, best of luck to both teams!
-- Snarr

22woger22
08-05-2005, 07:27 PM
Copied word by word from Snarr, right?

Well, anyway, good luck with this.

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Swift
08-05-2005, 08:20 PM
Shouldn't we make a team first? :unsure:

Twelve
08-05-2005, 08:21 PM
Yeah, there seems to be a step missing somewhere...

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Wolfman
08-05-2005, 08:36 PM
guys..... we aint missing a step here... i posted this so that whoever sign-up knows what they r signing up for...... the trial selection of the New Rev Team.

we still hv until 10 aug to signup... then selection.

wolfy

Lord Shinok
08-05-2005, 10:03 PM
Wolf, don't you think you should discuss this with Moosey so he can have the Legenders remake their own team?

allstarGL
08-05-2005, 10:07 PM
Wolf, don't you think you should discuss this with Moosey so he can have the Legenders remake their own team?
heck no tell them last minute so they have to throw together a bunch of scrubs ;)

Office_Shredder
08-05-2005, 10:21 PM
wolfman, that post needs some serious color tag editting :p

Twelve
08-06-2005, 08:24 AM
Wolf, don't you think you should discuss this with Moosey so he can have the Legenders remake their own team?

The person to talk to about this is not Moose, but Omegashin.

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Terps rock
08-06-2005, 08:36 AM
I say we wait, and get a head start!

fudo
08-06-2005, 10:08 AM
we already know about half of the legends team.

Dove
08-06-2005, 10:53 AM
I say we wait, and get a head start!

Why? What feeling of victory is there if we don't let them choose their best? This tournament may only happen once... at least only once for a very very long time. Don't you think it should be the cream of the crop on both sides?

Winning would be fun, but not as fun as if you defeated the absolute best Legenders out there.

fudo
08-06-2005, 12:46 PM
i think it is going to be hard to beat the best over there. just to name a few, but look at omegashin. he has like 4 accounts in the top 50, he is one of a few to break 1900. glad, he is one of a few to break 1900 over there, one of a few to break 1400 on rev sever and he is the winner of the rev grand league. i'm not saying that legends is the best but i'm saying it will be hard to beat people like those 2.

The Exile
08-06-2005, 03:25 PM
That's an interesting point. Are you allowing cross-server players to choose which server they represent?

Wolfman
08-06-2005, 03:29 PM
Guys, i hv yet to formally invite the legenders on this.... cuz if we don hv a team, there will be no game.... so why don we act professionally, re-form our Rev Team n then formally send a Public Relation Officer like Jeffery to invite them for this Rev Vs Leg Tourney.

wolfy

The Exile
08-06-2005, 03:40 PM
a Public Relation Officer like Jeffery

wolfy
Oh dear.

Dove
08-06-2005, 04:05 PM
Wolf: I think we should reformat the tournament between Rev and Leg. I don't really understand the current format, and I think that if we are going to form our team by using the setup I posted in the other thread, we should also inform Legends that they will be using a team comprised of 2 turtlers, 2 freestylers, 2 greys, and a Captain. Using this format, we will be able to tell which server has the best in each broad category of play. We will have a best turtle server award, best freestyle server award, best grey server award, and best overall server. You and I (and some other volunteers if we have any) will decide how each will be decided, and I'm already working on ideas.

As far as the units go (Legends has only 1 Scout, which makes a tremendous difference), I suggest this.

Instead of allowing 2 Scouts in both Freestyle and Turtle, I suggest we let the Legenders choose whether to have 2 Scouts in either the Freestyle or Turtle events. 2 Scouts will already give FPS a slight advantage, just through playing with them consistently, but I think the balancer here is that if Legends plays one category with double Scouts, they should be able to choose a category to play with single Scouts. It just seems more fair all around.

Exile: Yes :) . I think people should choose on their own who they represent. Since I know you're thinking of yourself in this case, I'm sure you could either play for Legends or Revelation, at your choice.

Snarr
08-06-2005, 04:12 PM
I could update the rules so they are better suited for now days such as email addresses, and units.

Wolfman
08-06-2005, 04:35 PM
snarr is back!!!!!!!!

bite me snarr.... i missed ya!

thx for whatever u can help in this.

srry to copy your tourney rules.....

wolfy

The Prophet
08-08-2005, 11:27 AM
To be fair, there needs to be a way to incorporate one scout matches.

Maybe add a one scout event but that would make the event numbers even.

Lord Shinok
08-08-2005, 11:36 AM
I got an idea to solve this dual scouts thing for us. Since we are going to play on Rev, why not do the 'Home' and 'Away' thing to determine whether we have to use 2 scouts or 1?
ie:
(Away) Exiled vs Omegashin (Home)
Omegashin is a Legender and got a Home game, meaning that both Omegashin and Exiled has to use 1 scout for their game(s).

Sorry, I'm no good at explaining stuff like this. =/

CRX687
08-08-2005, 11:44 AM
The only rules I have problems with are the turtle ones.

They apply mostly only to FPS turtles, and put legenders at a disadvantage.

Why not simply have it so that all 10 units must be on the top left corner of the field? And so long as there's a stone cluster, and no more than 1 ranged unit (mages, dragon, scout, busher, muddy, wisp) in the front row, it's legal?

Or use the old Definition of the turtle? What's wrong with busher and DSM? They're okay if they're not front-row...

As for the 2 scouts thing... half the categories should be 1 scout and the other half 2 scouts.

Wayfaerer
08-08-2005, 12:00 PM
All opposite side turtles? :bad:

Ignore the lobby bitches. They just lack the skill to play without their flanking dualies and need some excuses ;) . Canning the randomness makes forms too easy to set up anyways.

Dove
08-08-2005, 12:44 PM
http://www.legendsforums.com//index.php?topic=1016.30

Lots of bitter FPS guys over there :p .

Then Wayf... the bitterest of them all.

We need some more people to sign up, I can tell you right now that Legends is gonna bring a wicked team into this.

The Prophet
08-08-2005, 01:13 PM
http://www.legendsforums.com//index.php?topic=1016.30

Lots of bitter FPS guys over there :p .

Then Wayf... the bitterest of them all.

We need some more people to sign up, I can tell you right now that Legends is gonna bring a wicked team into this.
Word! It is already stacked

Snarr
08-08-2005, 03:25 PM
snarr is back!!!!!!!!

bite me snarr.... i missed ya!

thx for whatever u can help in this.

srry to copy your tourney rules.....

wolfy

Dude! It makes me very much happt that it can be of use to you.

allstarGL
08-10-2005, 08:05 PM
http://www.legendsforums.com//index.php?topic=1016.30

Lots of bitter FPS guys over there :p .

Then Wayf... the bitterest of them all.

We need some more people to sign up, I can tell you right now that Legends is gonna bring a wicked team into this.
Yea it sucks that some of the best people that play here are playing for the other team! I'm going to kick their asses!

The Prophet
08-10-2005, 09:10 PM
Well if it's on mofo then it's on then!

Bring it!

CRX687
08-10-2005, 09:31 PM
Before this can happen, we need to agree on the rules.

1) 1/2 the gold battles have to be one-scouted

2) Turtle rules need changing.

monkus
08-10-2005, 10:45 PM
Why? What feeling of victory is there if we don't let them choose their best? This tournament may only happen once... at least only once for a very very long time. Don't you think it should be the cream of the crop on both sides?

Winning would be fun, but not as fun as if you defeated the absolute best Legenders out there.

Silly dove with your silly ethics.

Dove
08-10-2005, 10:50 PM
Silly dove with your silly ethics.

Yes, well, it gets the better of me sometimes.

I don't think anyone signed up into categories... which is something that was kind of a must...

The Prophet
08-11-2005, 06:36 AM
One scout in the turtle is fine.

But what about allowing the dsm and ga to be in the roster just as long it is in the back 3 rows.

Dove
08-11-2005, 08:53 AM
But what about allowing the dsm and ga to be in the roster just as long it is in the back 3 rows.

I think that's fair. Those units have the potential to be abused... if they aren't used in an abusive fashion they should be able to be used.

Besides, this tournament is all of TAO. Why not have all the units available?

Geeky_Bastard
08-11-2005, 12:13 PM
I think that's fair. Those units have the potential to be abused... if they aren't used in an abusive fashion they should be able to be used.

Besides, this tournament is all of TAO. Why not have all the units available? then make 2 scouts avaliable :dry:

The Prophet
08-11-2005, 07:17 PM
Geeky we are talking about units that everyone has access to.

Legends doesn't have 2 scouts.

CRX687
08-14-2005, 10:28 AM
Another thing. Since we don't want this to be a luck fest, I suggest that every "game" between 2 players be best 2 out of 3.

Noda
08-14-2005, 10:48 AM
hehe then ull have to be lucky 2 out 3 times, sweet :)

naa, good idea

Tcbb....
08-22-2005, 03:09 AM
Is this tournment ever going to happen?

ballplayer
08-22-2005, 07:27 AM
i would like to sign up for this event