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iron-rain
10-01-2005, 08:53 AM
I think they are 79-81 but thats just according to this...

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/standings/index.jsp

bobdagangsta
10-01-2005, 08:54 AM
thats right iron-rain, so they are below 500.

nomar
10-01-2005, 10:45 AM
That's Dead Prez "It's Bigger Than Hip-Hop" from the album Let's Get Free.

I will, from time to time, be dropping in some hip hop lyrics from artists with an actual message to educate you people who think that Ludacris and 50 are where it's at.

No offense to Luda or 50, they are fun in the club but they have never said anything worth repeating.

I'm not a big dead prez fan....but that song isn't that bad.

Your right about fitty and luda. The just flat out suck ass. True they can make the ladies shake their ass's in da club.

nomar
10-01-2005, 10:46 AM
Red Sox 5 Yanks 3. Game 2 at 1 pm today. Good luck 12.

Office_Shredder
10-01-2005, 10:55 AM
What I don't get is how San Diego is frickin five games up in their division. I mean.... they could get into the playoffs with a .500 record.... that's just wrong

nomar
10-01-2005, 11:03 AM
What I don't get is how San Diego is frickin five games up in their division. I mean.... they could get into the playoffs with a .500 record.... that's just wrong

It's rather sad. They'll get swept. They should make a rule, that if you get into the playoffs with a -.500 record, you should forfeit your spot for someone better.

bobdagangsta
10-01-2005, 11:37 AM
What I don't get is how San Diego is frickin five games up in their division. I mean.... they could get into the playoffs with a .500 record.... that's just wrong

ur dam right there division just sux

roody poo
10-01-2005, 11:52 AM
No offense to Luda or 50, they are fun in the club but they have never said anything worth repeating.

Not alot of today's rappers have. Recently I have purchased:

Paul Wall, Young Jeezy, Three 6, David Banner

I like all these guys, and I like all these guys more than 50 or Luda. But none of them do I really think are on the level of a Jay-Z or one of my favorites Kanye West.

allstarGL
10-01-2005, 12:29 PM
UH oh not a good start boston. "everybody runs on damon* LMAO

crack class a
10-01-2005, 12:42 PM
kanye wests new song is awsome, and jay-z is th only person to make a remix with a rock band, jay-z in my opinion is THE best hip-hop/r&b singer along with 2pac.

legacy67
10-01-2005, 02:04 PM
kanye wests new song is awsome, and jay-z is th only person to make a remix with a rock band, jay-z in my opinion is THE best hip-hop/r&b singer along with 2pac.

First of all, you are very wrong about the remix thing with rock bands. What about Run-DMC with Aerosmith for Walk This Way (as the songs were originally separate, Puff Daddy' "All about the Benjamins"with who the hell cares anymore, the dead prez rock remix of "Hell yeah", Ice Cubes remix of Natural Born Killas featureing KORN; basically its been done many times before Jay-Z.

You want to talk about MC's with a message? How about Paris, Taleib Kwali, J5, Public Enemy, Nas, Common, everyone at Guerrilla Funk Records, and loads more.

You have spoken word artists like Lemon, Rita Dove, Flaco Navaja, Black Ice, and many many more.

If you want to find the real artists of hip hop, you often have to look beyond the radio and the crap you have heard. Tupac was a skilled performer, there is no doubt about that, but "America's Most Wanted" has no personal connection for me. Most songs I know by skilled vocal artists are fun to listen too, mayb even technically impressive, but evoke no personal response from me.

roody poo
10-01-2005, 02:08 PM
First of all, you are very wrong about the remix thing with rock bands. What about Run-DMC with Aerosmith for Walk This Way (as the songs were originally separate, Puff Daddy' "All about the Benjamins"with who the hell cares anymore, the dead prez rock remix of "Hell yeah", Ice Cubes remix of Natural Born Killas featureing KORN; basically its been done many times before Jay-Z.

You want to talk about MC's with a message? How about Paris, Taleib Kwali, J5, Public Enemy, Nas, Common, everyone at Guerrilla Funk Records, and loads more.

You have spoken word artists like Lemon, Rita Dove, Flaco Navaja, Black Ice, and many many more.

If you want to find the real artists of hip hop, you often have to look beyond the radio and the crap you have heard. Tupac was a skilled performer, there is no doubt about that, but "America's Most Wanted" has no personal connection for me. Most songs I know by skilled vocal artists are fun to listen too, mayb even technically impressive, but evoke no personal response from me.


I didn't realize we were talking about rappers with a message. There is a big difference between being a lyricist and someone "preaching". I agree that many of those you listed are very good. But I don't consider them all "rappers".

crack class a
10-01-2005, 02:19 PM
but did they all make an album with each other with loads of remixes that were all really good, maybe his not the only person but he is the best on to make with a rock band so far, and i don't remember saying anything about messages on the mcs.

KBHoleN1
10-01-2005, 02:20 PM
The Roc is definitely where it is at, gotta hand it to roody on that one.

Oh, and GO RED SOX, woohoo, tied for the AL East!!!!

legacy67
10-01-2005, 02:58 PM
Oooh yay, remixes!!! Taking a song and putting a new, maybe even better musical track to it. The remix was invented to make more money, bottom line. It's a way to package a song so that people think it's new and pay more money for it, but takes the least effort possible.

I am not bashing the mainstream rappers entirely, they make stuff that is fun to dance to or bump in the car, but has no actual substance. Jay-Z made The Blueprint, Tha Black Album (both good albums), and then mostly a bunch of crap other than those two albums. "H to the izzO, V to the izzA"? Thats just lame.

Not everyone I mentioned is a "rapper", but they are all Hip Hop artists. Hip hop is a wide ranging art form with many elements. Hip Hop has intelligence and wit, while rap nearly requires the ability to yell "From the window!!" somewhat in time with a beat.

Sorry, but the arguement that Jay-Z is good because he remixed his whole album with Linkin Park (who are a pile of crap by the way) is one of he worst arguements I have ever heard. You want to mention why Jay-Z is good? Look to "Two 22's" or "Coming of Age". Don't look to "Hard Knock Life" or remixes ith poor rock bands. If you want to heara a cool version of "The Black Album" download "The Grey Album" which mixes Jay-Z with "The White Album" by the Beatles.

Basically, please step out of the box with Hip Hop and music in general, there is so much more out there than the stuff you have been told to like

crack class a
10-01-2005, 03:09 PM
i was not arguing all i said was jay-z is the best in my opinion, ok i said something wrong big deal. im going to stop posting here now before i get a neg.

roody poo
10-01-2005, 03:14 PM
Legacy, I will suppose most of that post wasn't really directed at me. B/C again I think there is a big difference in what you and I are talking about. And trust me, I listen to some mainstream stuff, but I am far outside of what "I am told to like".

As far as the "remix" argument, I was rather disappointed with Collision Course. I thought the Grey Album blew CC out of the water. I do take acception to your statement that most of what Jay-Z put out is crap. Sorry, but there is so much good substance to the guy other than The Black Album and Blueprint.

EDIT: Also Leg, it looks as if you edited your post while I was posting, seems we have some more points in agreement.

legacy67
10-01-2005, 03:25 PM
I am not apt to take a swing at you roody, I was mostly talking to that SI kid who like Linkin Park. However, even Jay-Z admits that most of his career was spent making money instead of art. ;)

Basically, there is a lot of great art out there that comments on our social existance.

Very little of it ever makes it to the radio or television.

roody poo
10-01-2005, 07:07 PM
Basically, there is a lot of great art out there that comments on our social existance.

Very little of it ever makes it to the radio or television.

Agreed, but how much of that is hip hop or rap and how much of it is spoken word type stuff?

legacy67
10-01-2005, 07:23 PM
Quite a lot of it is music. There is a lot of spoken word stuff, but most of the best hip hop material doesn't make it onto the radio in heavy rotation like the club anthems. Dead Prez, Paris, Talieb, Common, J5 all have zero to very light radio rotation, despite the fact that they are skilled MCs with things of value to say. There are miles of others who never make it onto the airwaves because the average listener would rather hear about Crystal, 24 inch rims, and bustin' caps than listen to an artist with actual substance.

crack class a
10-01-2005, 07:33 PM
i didn't even say i liked linkin park either i just thought it was good the album, the jay z part, i don't like rock music. but you can say w/e you want.

Office_Shredder
10-01-2005, 08:26 PM
*cough cough* 8-4 *cough cough*

Wakefield was so lit up, I could see the glow from New Jersey :cool:

Geeky_Bastard
10-01-2005, 08:38 PM
woot seminoles win AND the gators lose!!! how great is that? 4-0 seminoles woot

legacy67
10-01-2005, 08:52 PM
Hell yeah another Noles fan!!

I have an entire fantasy team of FSU alum.

I'm feeling it this year, Booker is a freaking monster, and a nice guy too.

My sophmore housemate went to high school with him.

Geeky_Bastard
10-01-2005, 10:12 PM
you see that 71 yard screen pass? booker (i think) out ran the fastest guy on the opposite team

nomar
10-01-2005, 11:04 PM
One of the Nole's WR names is Fagg. Thought that was funny as hell. Did you see that dude from Bama break his leg...one of the sickest things i've ever seen.

The Sox gave that game to NY. Oh well, let's see how well Schill pitches.

KBHoleN1
10-01-2005, 11:34 PM
With Cleveland losing, the Sox have the Wild Card all but wrapped up, right?

If both teams win tomorrow, or both teams lose, Sox when the Wild Card. If Sox lose and Cleveland wins, they have a play-off game to decide Wild Card. So Sox would have to lose 2 straight, Indians would have to win 2 straight for the Sox not to get in. For the love of God, go SOX!!!

Yankees ... suck my balls :confused:

bobdagangsta
10-02-2005, 06:21 AM
well they lost to the yankess yesterday. they are 1 game up on CLE.

max2k106
10-02-2005, 07:32 AM
With Cleveland losing, the Sox have the Wild Card all but wrapped up, right?

If both teams win tomorrow, or both teams lose, Sox when the Wild Card. If Sox lose and Cleveland wins, they have a play-off game to decide Wild Card. So Sox would have to lose 2 straight, Indians would have to win 2 straight for the Sox not to get in. For the love of God, go SOX!!!

Yankees ... suck my balls :confused:
Go Sox!

bobdagangsta
10-02-2005, 07:35 AM
yea i do want the red sox 2 win, yankees just win 2 much. :)

crack class a
10-02-2005, 08:08 AM
suck my balls[/COLOR] :confused:

no thanks.

bobdagangsta
10-02-2005, 08:10 AM
so im guessing u want the yankees 2 win crack?

emerald slasher
10-02-2005, 08:26 AM
ack to much baseball talk for emer

crack class a
10-02-2005, 09:22 AM
im not from america i do not have a clue what your talking about.

bobdagangsta
10-02-2005, 10:03 AM
crack thats what i thought

Office_Shredder
10-02-2005, 10:11 AM
crack, just say "Go yankees"

crack class a
10-02-2005, 11:10 AM
whats in it for me? :p

Hoolwath
10-02-2005, 12:38 PM
im not from america i do not have a clue what your talking about.

Word! This thread isnt even fun to watch anymore I always click the last post link just to see yankees! Yay!

Discuss something we could understand! Like World War I or something...

legacy67
10-02-2005, 04:16 PM
Well, the Raiders are winning right now...

emerald slasher
10-02-2005, 04:51 PM
cincinnati bengals: 4-0 :cool:

EleMENTAL
10-02-2005, 05:21 PM
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap/NFL_20051002_SD@NE

Chargers kill Patriots.

GO Chargers!! Woot Woot. :cool:

I am a San Diego Fan...I was born there

Madars
10-02-2005, 05:25 PM
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap/NFL_20051002_SD@NE

Chargers kill Patriots.

GO Chargers!! Woot Woot. :cool:

I am a San Diego Fan...I was born there

Nah,The Pats just got a little bad luck.Thats why they lost.They will be back up and running in no time. :)

-Mad-

nomar
10-02-2005, 06:44 PM
Nah,The Pats just got a little bad luck.Thats why they lost.They will be back up and running in no time. :)

-Mad-

They lost b/c they had to start 2 rookie's on the O-line (Brady's blindside). They also had to replace their Defense Captian (Harrison).
This all had to happen against one of the leagues best offense's. Oh well, we're still the CHAMPS.

Madars
10-02-2005, 06:49 PM
Hey its Nomar!!

Lets Party!!

*Dances*

;)

-Mad-

The Exile
10-02-2005, 06:55 PM
Why has this thread suddenly become completely unintelligable?

Madars
10-02-2005, 06:59 PM
Why has this thread suddenly become completely unintelligable?

Its because Nomar came here. :p

-Mad-

Forest_Archer
10-02-2005, 07:01 PM
Why has this thread suddenly become completely unintelligable?


:huh: Huh, wot de hek do thayat mean?

emerald slasher
10-02-2005, 07:22 PM
its unintelligble exile cause its been baseball talk for like 8 pages

The Exile
10-02-2005, 07:31 PM
its unintelligble exile
It's 1.30am, and I'm not concentrating on my spelling. :dry:

Squidiot!
10-02-2005, 07:39 PM
Why has this thread suddenly become completely unintelligable?

Wow, first grammar mistake by Exile :p just kidding.

22woger22
10-02-2005, 07:42 PM
Wow, first grammar mistake by Exile :p just kidding.
It was not a grammar mistake, it was a spelling mistake.

unintelligable < unintelligible

Squidiot!
10-02-2005, 07:43 PM
Oh, im a retard :(

Office_Shredder
10-02-2005, 08:27 PM
Oh, im a retard :(

You didn't need to say that ;)

Coffin Fedder
10-02-2005, 08:47 PM
Oh, im a retard :(

Well atleast ur now Netjaks byatch like me, I gotta kill hatchet for saying that :p

Office_Shredder
10-02-2005, 09:08 PM
Frickin red sox.... I was so sure they were going to miss the playoffs :mad:

Dove
10-02-2005, 09:10 PM
Well atleast ur now Netjaks byatch like me, I gotta kill hatchet for saying that :p

But the thing is, you totally are. :p

Coffin Fedder
10-02-2005, 09:12 PM
remember this?

Hey twelve u so fine I want u to be all mine, have I showed u my new bed yet?? ;)

legacy67
10-02-2005, 10:37 PM
remember this?

Hey twelve u so fine I want u to be all mine, have I showed u my new bed yet?? ;)

What?? I mean, what??!?

Were you trying to talk smack there or something?

Wow, really wow.

Twelve
10-03-2005, 10:04 AM
Sorry, but the arguement that Jay-Z is good because he remixed his whole album with Linkin Park (who are a pile of crap by the way)

Thanx for the series of quality posts, Legacy! That's what it's all about!!

But I can't agree with you about Linkin Park...sorry, but those dudes are very cool.

Legacy, I'm curious as to your opinion...as it seems you make the distinction: What is the difference between rap and hip-hop?

yea i do want the red sox 2 win, yankees just win 2 much.

Well, that's just too bad, isn't it? Yankee tradition is to WIN.

I wasn't happy about Boston winning 2 out of 3...that was a weird three game series...it was like both teams fought to win only what they needed to win. I'm not fond of the idea of us having to go to California...but we should have it in four.

Meanwhile..... GO SOX!!! The WHITE ONES!!!!

Nah,The Pats just got a little bad luck.Thats why they lost.They will be back up and running in no time.

The Pats got MANHANDLED...humiliated at home. Meanwhile...my Giants have got the magic touch...named Eli. :)

It's 1.30am, and I'm not concentrating on my spelling.

EXILE MADE A SPELLING ERROR?

I didn't think that was possible...it's...illogical. The world will end soon.

Frickin red sox.... I was so sure they were going to miss the playoffs

Pisses me off too...

remember this?

Hey twelve u so fine I want u to be all mine, have I showed u my new bed yet??

I don't know what that was...but um.... :confused: ...stop.

Anyways, back from a phat weekend! Aaaaiight?

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Poop Slinger
10-03-2005, 10:45 AM
Now I must choose the lesser of two evils.. White or Red??

Its like choosing the right wine for dinner, when you know I could care less because beer goes good with chicken, pasta, or red meat!

I want both them sox teams outta da playoffs. Its gona be a long week of listening to dumb South Siders singing the praises of them Black Sox. :rolleyes:

Twelve
10-03-2005, 11:20 AM
Now I must choose the lesser of two evils.. White or Red??

Its like choosing the right wine for dinner, when you know I could care less because beer goes good with chicken, pasta, or red meat!

I want both them sox teams outta da playoffs. Its gona be a long week of listening to dumb South Siders singing the praises of them Black Sox. :rolleyes:

Lol..that's right, you're from Chicago, aren't you? Hmm....surprised you're not rooting for the White Sox. You're a Cubs fan or what?

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nomar
10-03-2005, 11:47 AM
He's a cubbie. Cubs and Sox (white) don't like eachother. When i went to Chi-town, i noticed that 90% of the city are cubs fans.

Well, should be an interesting MLB playoff. I'm still feeling sick abou tmy Pats. I just hope we still be the damn Dolt's. I hate the Manning bro's.

The Prophet
10-03-2005, 11:52 AM
Manning bro's are like netjak, the best are always hated.

nomar
10-03-2005, 11:58 AM
Manning bro's are like netjak, the best are always hated.

How many Superbowl W's do they have?

Poop Slinger
10-03-2005, 12:36 PM
Lol..that's right, you're from Chicago, aren't you? Hmm....surprised you're not rooting for the White Sox. You're a Cubs fan or what?

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Oh hell yeah DIE HARD Cubs Fan.. and Indians Fan. I'm a southsider too.. which just makes matters worse. I'm a Cub Fan, and yes a Bud(light) man. Between my love for Cubs and Notre Dame I get so much shit its amazing I haven't spent a night in cook county jail for the fights that insue.

And yes, I hate HATE HATE HATE the Sox. Thier owners have screwed up ever since tearing down old Comiskey.. to make more money and then sold out completely to be US Cellar Field. They are trying too hard to be like the NY Yankees West. Their diease of money grabbing I guess already fell on the Bears... Can't wait to see what their checkbooks do next. :rolleyes:

My uncle was really excited that he was going be able to take me to a game a long time back, I found out who they were playing.. and bought a Toronto Jersey, Ball cap, and even spray painted a foam finger with a big red maple leaf.. I believe when the Blue Jays won I was almost wearing more beer on me then I drank. :bigsmile:

Twelve
10-03-2005, 01:35 PM
Wow...I sense that the world is Chicago is QUITE far away from the drama we have in New York! I can't even comprehend that kind of stuff...

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legacy67
10-03-2005, 01:49 PM
Legacy, I'm curious as to your opinion...as it seems you make the distinction: What is the difference between rap and hip-hop?



1. Hip Hop:

A name for the 4 elements of the late 70's New York City renaissance which includes break dancing, emceeing, graffiti, and turntablism."Rap is something you do Hip Hop is something you live"- KRS One

This is the urban dictionary definition, I could not have put it better myself. There are many more elements of hip hop but you can find them on your own. Wikipedia has a great little thing on hip hop LINK HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop)

2. Rap:

A form of music created by record companies behind the veil of African-American culture in order to avoid attacks on it. Claimed to be culturally beneficial to African-Americans, in actual fact promoting a negative stereotype. Usually encourages sexism, racism and violence. Skill has yet to be found in this particular genre. Has been well received by middle class white adolescents in North America and Europe who are desperate to be popular, stand out as an individual and be in a position to belittle others (see poser).

This Urban Dictionary definition made me laugh since it's evalutation of modern "rap" is right on. Rap is really a poor imiation of hip hop that is designed purely for monetary gain nd has little relationship to art.

Wikipedia's def made me laugh too (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rap)

Basically, Hip Hop is a culture, community, and collection of art forms.

Rap is a perversion of an element of Hip Hop.

WaCk-HeAd
10-03-2005, 02:22 PM
Rap:

Skill has yet to be found in this particular genre. Has been well received by middle class white adolescents in North America and Europe who are desperate to be popular, stand out as an individual and be in a position to belittle others (see poser).[/I]


*Smiles*

KBHoleN1
10-03-2005, 02:24 PM
*Smiles*
Wipes the smile off of his face, stupid cracker.

Jeffery
10-03-2005, 02:27 PM
Bite Me

Volcom
10-03-2005, 02:29 PM
Bite Me
*bite*
:bad: .. eew, its all fat

:p

Poop Slinger
10-03-2005, 02:36 PM
Have fun chewing the fat...

Those def's are so true it makes me laugh. ... Its amazing how many people TRY to like and play that they love rap.. to pretty much be accepted. And how in order for it to be "mainstream" there has to be someone making a profit and of course at the expense of a true art form.

The Prophet
10-03-2005, 02:53 PM
How many Superbowl W's do they have?

I didn't mean the teams.

They are the best QBs in the NFL.

CRATER
10-03-2005, 02:53 PM
Its amazing how many people TRY to like and play that they love RAFFI.. to pretty much be accepted. And how in order for it to be "mainstream" there has to be someone making a profit and of course at the expense of a true art form.

Kids. I was telling my 3 year old this just the other day. They never learn.

Twelve
10-03-2005, 02:54 PM
1. Hip Hop:

A name for the 4 elements of the late 70's New York City renaissance which includes break dancing, emceeing, graffiti, and turntablism."Rap is something you do Hip Hop is something you live"- KRS One

This is the urban dictionary definition, I could not have put it better myself. There are many more elements of hip hop but you can find them on your own. Wikipedia has a great little thing on hip hop LINK HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop)

2. Rap:

A form of music created by record companies behind the veil of African-American culture in order to avoid attacks on it. Claimed to be culturally beneficial to African-Americans, in actual fact promoting a negative stereotype. Usually encourages sexism, racism and violence. Skill has yet to be found in this particular genre. Has been well received by middle class white adolescents in North America and Europe who are desperate to be popular, stand out as an individual and be in a position to belittle others (see poser).

This Urban Dictionary definition made me laugh since it's evalutation of modern "rap" is right on. Rap is really a poor imiation of hip hop that is designed purely for monetary gain nd has little relationship to art.

Wikipedia's def made me laugh too (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rap)

Basically, Hip Hop is a culture, community, and collection of art forms.

Rap is a perversion of an element of Hip Hop.

Interesting. So, in your opinion, who is physical incarnation of true hip-hop, and who is the true incarnation of rap?

Netjakkers, stop the spamming...c'mon. Non-netjakkers (who spam)...beware of the negs.

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Poop Slinger
10-03-2005, 02:57 PM
Kids. I was telling my 3 year old this just the other day. They never learn.
Isn't that the guy who sings:
"I love you,
You love me,
Homo sex uality.
With a thrust and a shove
a little latex glove,
I just made another
crappy song."

KBHoleN1
10-03-2005, 03:24 PM
Bite Me
ok :huh: *CHOMP*

CRATER
10-03-2005, 04:09 PM
Isn't that the guy who sings:
"I love you,
You love me,
Homo sex uality.
With a thrust and a shove
a little latex glove,
I just made another
crappy song."

Wow, I'm impressed. You got all the lyrics correct, did you have it memorized? Is this a personal theme song?

legacy67
10-03-2005, 11:23 PM
Today's fun thread

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?p=546308&posted=1#post546308

You should really read it from the begining to get the full effect of how big of an idiot this guy is, but page 2 should give you enough.

Now I'm not saying that everyone should go neg him, but if you happened to feel like negging someone, this would probably be the best place to do it. The guys name is Stephan12396 or something like that. Again, I am not urging anyone to neg this guy, merely pointing out a member of our community who has conducted himself poorly, insulted memebrs of netjak, and negged others indiscriminantly.

Have a nice day! :bigsmile:

GreenS@murai!
10-03-2005, 11:45 PM
you should see my reply....im gonna get banned....ill give everyone a dollar if I dont.

legacy67
10-04-2005, 12:04 AM
Wow, all I can say is wow.

Cheers to you Green, that was tremendous.

And I can't say I disagree with your prediction (although in this case I would spare you).

Twelve
10-04-2005, 10:20 AM
Interesting. So, in your opinion, who is physical incarnation of true hip-hop, and who is the true incarnation of rap?



Legacy, I was seriously looking forward to you answering this question. :)

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legacy67
10-04-2005, 01:36 PM
That's sort of an odd question that will take time for me to think about. Since hip hop is such a free flowing art form with so many elements, it's hard to find a Hip Hop "poster child". Rap is a little easier. Lil' Jon. He personifies the worst things about the rap world, he is basically a rap caricature. Little skill and nothing worth saying.

Twelve
10-04-2005, 01:38 PM
Totally agree with what you say about that Lil' Jon bastard. Any fool can scream like him.

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nomar
10-04-2005, 02:33 PM
Totally agree with what you say about that Lil' Jon bastard. Any fool can scream like him.

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Wait's for Roody to jump in. I know he love's the dirty south rap scene.

KBHoleN1
10-04-2005, 03:14 PM
Wait's for Roody to jump in. I know he love's the dirty south rap scene.
I love it, I like Lil Jon's music, but I can't argue that is has any kind of message, because it just doesn't. Doesn't mean I won't listen to it though, YEAH!!!

bobdagangsta
10-04-2005, 03:14 PM
The white sox and the red sox have just started there first playoff game. GO RED SOX!

Twelve
10-04-2005, 03:58 PM
The new website is NICE.

www.netjak-tao.com

Thargor is amazing...it's not done yet, but you can still jump in there and interact with it...impressive Thargor.

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emerald slasher
10-04-2005, 04:03 PM
i kno...kinda sucks for me how i cant type merald slasher in for my username but watever

Coffin Fedder
10-04-2005, 04:03 PM
Twelve, that looks good we outta all congradulate thargor for making a nice new clan website :)

Madars
10-04-2005, 04:18 PM
Very nice webbie,its about time that old thing got a new look.

-Mad-

Squidiot!
10-04-2005, 04:36 PM
Good Job, Thargor! ,Keep up the good work guys.

allstarGL
10-04-2005, 07:56 PM
The white sox and the red sox have just started there first playoff game. GO RED SOX!
I send my deepest condolences.

GreenS@murai!
10-04-2005, 08:19 PM
Yes...Boston got owned

Squidiot!
10-04-2005, 08:59 PM
12-2, Ouch.

legacy67
10-04-2005, 09:39 PM
It's so hard watching the Yanks and the Angels play. I can't decide who I want to lose more.

I guess I'll have to go with the Angels.

Stupid rally monkeys.

roody poo
10-04-2005, 10:05 PM
Wait's for Roody to jump in. I know he love's the dirty south rap scene.

I've reserved myself to the fact that I have a different opinion about this matter.

Actually I think Lil Jon doesn't personify rap as a whole. Lil Jon is more of a producer that yeah, adds a little to some of his work, but hardly is the poster boy for rap or everything that is wrong with it.

And yeah, I love the dirty south rap scene. I love just about every genre of music other than country, but I will make exceptions even in that area from time to time. Such as Willie Nelson's Country Man. Wow, that is a great album.

Dove
10-04-2005, 11:08 PM
The new website is NICE.

www.netjak-tao.com

Thargor is amazing...it's not done yet, but you can still jump in there and interact with it...impressive Thargor.

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Wow... that IS good. Great work, can't wait to see its completion.

Twelve
10-05-2005, 08:05 AM
1. New Clan website.

2. Yankees win.

3. Boston gets WORKED.

Who can ask for a better Tuesday?

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snoopdawg420
10-05-2005, 08:24 AM
Definitely A great day, any day the Red Sox lose + the Yanks win, and a new website to boot? Gaw-damn amazing :).

CRATER
10-05-2005, 09:00 AM
I should add that the NHL starts today.
God bless this hump day.

See you all at the pub - go sens.

Squidiot!
10-05-2005, 09:01 AM
Yeah, W00t, GO LEAFS!!!...

iceman2001
10-05-2005, 09:12 AM
All Hail Netjak!! The new website looks great! My only suggestion would be to maek the clan rankings link bigger or more obvious.

meat.eater
10-05-2005, 01:33 PM
Goodness.

I'm on page 2 of reputation! With 11. Wtf mate. Weird.

Hoolwath
10-05-2005, 01:40 PM
Nice to see cha back Hvan. Yea... you were quiet easy when I was goin up... :cool:

Geeky_Bastard
10-05-2005, 02:46 PM
where do you see the rep lists? just curious sorry if i sound like wack.. err a nub.. eh you get the point

meat.eater
10-05-2005, 03:35 PM
member list.

then click "reputation"

emerald slasher
10-05-2005, 03:57 PM
w00t emer is almost to page 1 in rep :)

Squidiot!
10-05-2005, 04:00 PM
Cool, Congrats. :)

meat.eater
10-05-2005, 05:17 PM
I just got a rep from KB that takes up 1/4 of my rep space.

WaCk-HeAd
10-05-2005, 05:20 PM
He really hates you that much eh?

Coffin Fedder
10-05-2005, 05:29 PM
well its for sure this time guys :p

I'm taking a long ass break maybe till next year or something, I got so much stuff on my mind that I just wanna think about and get aread of, My parents are fighting and stuff, and I also found someone else I would rather spend much time with then play this game because there the only person I can kinda talk too about these types of things. So if you wanna talk about anything or something just PM me.

KBHoleN1
10-05-2005, 05:35 PM
He really hates you that much eh?
No, I like him that much, and I like sending messages along with reps, especially ones like that, meat understands, I hope.

meat.eater
10-05-2005, 06:21 PM
Course. It was just something i havent ever experienced.

When i finally get along to negging someone, im going to mak eit take up their entire rep space.

bobdagangsta
10-05-2005, 07:09 PM
Man these red sox better win game 2.

allstarGL
10-05-2005, 07:57 PM
TO ANY LEADER: Paul heyman is boosting on rev... I caught saw him jump a guy roughly 5 games in a row. Also his stats are at 604 or something like that which makes me think the account has been hacked. I think it would be best to expel that account.

bobdagangsta
10-05-2005, 08:00 PM
heh i saw the same thing 2 allstar i no what ur talking about.

nomar
10-05-2005, 08:55 PM
Paul Heyman isn't in netjak.com. If you stat him, you'll noticed the "E" in netjak.com looks funny. It's a different clan all together.

bobdagangsta
10-05-2005, 08:59 PM
o i didnt really see thanks for catching me before i went any longer.

x-useme
10-05-2005, 09:03 PM
we'll leave Netjak alone, if they stop calling JW a noob clan

bobdagangsta
10-05-2005, 09:05 PM
why cause its the truth?

Squidiot!
10-05-2005, 09:11 PM
Bob,stop being a d*ck x-useme is pretty cool.

Edit:White sox won

meat.eater
10-05-2005, 09:15 PM
New sig/ avatar.

Clack, can you add some srt of nifty border to the banner and maybe (maybe) my name in the backround lightly written? Depends on how it looks.

Squidiot!
10-05-2005, 09:16 PM
Um, wheres your name in it?..I like the backround

meat.eater
10-05-2005, 09:21 PM
There isnt yet. I was asking clack if he could manage it. Silly.

I could have had you looking for hours! hahaha!

Coffin Fedder
10-05-2005, 09:21 PM
none if u probably know me, but heres me retirment thread :p

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?p=548812#post548812

meat.eater
10-05-2005, 09:22 PM
Bye Coffie!

Hope life goes well.

Coffin Fedder
10-05-2005, 09:25 PM
Bye Coffie!.

Your a Fricken Yankee! you spelt my name wrong! :p

meat.eater
10-05-2005, 09:29 PM
Its a nickname. If you dont want me to add "ie" to the end of your name in place of a consanant, tell me.

bobdagangsta
10-06-2005, 12:16 PM
Your a Fricken Yankee! you spelt my name wrong! :p

GO RED SOX!!

CRATER
10-06-2005, 12:20 PM
Your a Fricken Yankee!in reference to meat.eater

Coffin, why do people make assumptions?

legacy67
10-06-2005, 12:39 PM
How many times has Coffin retired now? It's becoming a monthly exercise.

bobdagangsta
10-06-2005, 12:41 PM
heh thats pretty funny.

Twelve
10-06-2005, 01:46 PM
Oh man...Red Sox lost AGAIN!!! Still, I thought it was all over for them when my Yankees had them down 3-0. I was SURE of it. So the Red Sox aren't gone until they're gone folks...now they're battling at home.

Meat, nice to see you again...you completely changed your look here, for a while, I didn't know who you were and thought you were spamming.

X-Useme, begone. Squidiot, sorry, X-useme is a prick. Don't be defending a JW around here! What's your problem!!! :dry:

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Poop Slinger
10-06-2005, 01:50 PM
Wow.. the sox aren't throwing this game.. how odd. ;)

They look good.. aside from being hated..:D If they make it far enough, I would gladly cheer for the Astros when they come to town and stomp on the WHITE Sox for the World Series.

bobdagangsta
10-06-2005, 01:51 PM
I have siprit in those RED SOX for another come back sweep.

Dan_F_U
10-06-2005, 01:57 PM
What 12..squidiot cant defend a guy that he gets along with??? Do you think that all of Netjak must follow you and obey all your commands? Sounds like you guys are a bunch of communists.

Go White Sox.

Twelve
10-06-2005, 01:58 PM
Wow.. the sox aren't throwing this game.. how odd. ;)

They look good.. aside from being hated..:D If they make it far enough, I would gladly cheer for the Astros when they come to town and stomp on the WHITE Sox for the World Series.


Chicago must be going NUTS right now!!!

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Twelve
10-06-2005, 02:00 PM
What 12..squidiot cant defend a guy that he gets along with??? Do you think that all of Netjak must follow you and obey all your commands? Sounds like you guys are a bunch of communists.

Go White Sox.

Don't you know by now? I have netjak brainwashed to follow my every command. I might as well let TAO know about my hypno-skills. Sheesh man...haven't you noticed?

And why don't you update your sig?? I just neg-repped you again and I want people to see what I wrote!!!

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Dan_F_U
10-06-2005, 02:05 PM
12 ... I notice you guys do all the same shit. I ask a question and get a sarcastic noobish response in return. Never can get a straight forward answer from ya. I really dont like squidiot..i really dont like netjak..i really dont like the fact that you rally up ur team to neg ppl and to hate a clan as a whole.

But im sure you kno all that.

Twelve
10-06-2005, 02:06 PM
12 ... I notice you guys do all the same shit. I ask a question and get a sarcastic noobish response in return. Never can get a straight forward answer from ya. I really dont like squidiot..i really dont like netjak..i really dont like the fact that you rally up ur team to neg ppl and to hate a clan as a whole.

But im sure you kno all that.


Oooh...looks like it was me who gave you that third red block!!! :D

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The Exile
10-06-2005, 02:25 PM
i really dont like netjak..
NO WAY!

Amazing. How did you manage to hide it for so long?

Dan_F_U
10-06-2005, 02:29 PM
Well thanks again netjak for helping me on my quest for red boxes...im serious too.

Exile..Bottle...O I wish I should post some s/s. But im not that mean :O

Seriously 12..all you do is hide and run from any conflict or problem. Shits hit the fan and you still dont care.

CRATER
10-06-2005, 02:29 PM
He's got DEEP pockets.

Twelve
10-06-2005, 02:36 PM
Well thanks again netjak for helping me on my quest for red boxes...im serious too.



Don't worry...we won't let you get TOO far into red! Once someone starts to get famous for having too much red, we just take that away too! Dang...we're nasty. :coolpunk:

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Dan_F_U
10-06-2005, 02:40 PM
You guys and rep...jus ...weird..like you get horny with repping ppl its nasty.

O i wish i could rep you buddy...o ya..*touches self* pos baby pos.

I see that way too much. Wonder how many rep ppl should have if they didnt get rep from their clan :rolleyes:

The Exile
10-06-2005, 02:45 PM
O i wish i could rep you buddy...o ya..*touches self* pos baby pos.

I see that way too much.
Says something about your imagination then.

CRATER
10-06-2005, 02:48 PM
It's odd.
He posted exactly what was running through my head.

Hey you, get out of my head.

Oh *touches self* oh.
Stop, must resist.

Twelve
10-06-2005, 02:49 PM
You guys and rep...jus ...weird..like you get horny with repping ppl its nasty.

O i wish i could rep you buddy...o ya..*touches self* pos baby pos.



AGH!

Disgusting! Keep that stuff between you and Gangbang! PLEASE! Gah!

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Poop Slinger
10-06-2005, 02:56 PM
Chicago must be going NUTS right now!!!

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Half the city, let alone half the state, just doesn't care. Its kinda sad. :bad: Unless you actually go dowtown Right after the game.. yeah Nothing is happening. At least from where I'm sitting.. Maybe things are different up in AoL's neck of the wood. *shrug*

CRATER
10-06-2005, 02:59 PM
When I think of Chicago, 2 things come to mind - O'Hare and Oprah.
Isn't that sad.

Poop Slinger
10-06-2005, 03:12 PM
When I think of Chicago, 2 things come to mind - O'Hare and Oprah.
Isn't that sad.
Well those are the two BIGGEST things in our city... :bigsmile:

You don't even think of the bankrupt Sears Tower, the sports teams that can just never win?:bb: Or Wonderful Mayor Richard Daley. :fool: Such a shame.

I usually think of Deep Dish Pizza and Chicago Style Hot Dogs... Mmmm.. :good:

Dan_F_U
10-06-2005, 03:13 PM
AGH!

Disgusting! Keep that stuff between you and Gangbang! PLEASE! Gah!

12

Funny tho

Dan_F_U
10-06-2005, 03:15 PM
Woooo your from chicago :P... I was born there.. im hour and a half away... Go Whitesox (not big baseball fan)

Poop Slinger
10-06-2005, 03:17 PM
Your Southwest from there right...? more West than south..

Dan_F_U
10-06-2005, 03:19 PM
Dixon Illinois. I moved here when I was 9. Most my family lives there or in that region. I use to live on Maplewood st and Wasthenaw... Not sure exactly where.. I think southwest side.

Dan_F_U
10-06-2005, 03:20 PM
Says something about your imagination then.


And yes I do get quite horny when I see a pos rep. Really bad too. But with all you netjakkers Neg repping me...its like one big cock block :P

Squidiot!
10-06-2005, 03:24 PM
X-Useme, begone. Squidiot, sorry, X-useme is a prick. Don't be defending a JW around here! What's your problem!!! :dry:

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Sorry, but i think that x-useme isnt as bad as half of JW, If you have a problem with any of my posts please pm me with the problem and ill edit it.
Thanks
Squid

Dan_F_U
10-06-2005, 03:44 PM
Sorry, but i think that x-useme isnt as bad as half of JW, If you have a problem with any of my posts please pm me with the problem and ill edit it.
Thanks
Squid

Y edit your post to make 12 happy?

You have your own opinion..this isnt the first time I seen 12 belittle his clanmates. I seen him bitch at Terps for disagreeing with him and having an opinion.

Dont edit just to get ppl to like you. Dont sugercoat shit for them. Be straightforward...Thats what I do...No wonder Im disliked..maybe I should edit all my bad posts.. (thatll take forever)

Squidiot!
10-06-2005, 03:48 PM
How'd you know it was 12?.. + i think 12 is cool. so if he really has a problem with my posts ill edit it.

Edit:Crater your lucky the sens got Alfreddson, two game tying goals, ARGH!

Twelve
10-06-2005, 04:11 PM
Half the city, let alone half the state, just doesn't care. Its kinda sad. :bad: Unless you actually go dowtown Right after the game.. yeah Nothing is happening. At least from where I'm sitting.. Maybe things are different up in AoL's neck of the wood. *shrug*

Half the city doesn't care? Are you serious? Sheesh...I can't comprehend that. And I didn't know Oprah was in Chicago.

But weren't you all united behind that bastard Jordan? (yeah, I'm Knicks fan)

See, I always get a kick out of it when people take my jokes very seriously. When people do that, I take one of two routes:

1. If I like them, I tell them I was joking.

2. If I don't like them, I let them get all hot and bothered just to piss them off. Especially when they don't mind their own business. (Like Dan_POS)

Squid, since I have no problem with you, I'll tell you that my post regarding X-Useme was pure jest. If I truly had a problem with that post, oh, you would have KNOWN. While people often don't know if I'm joking or not, people always know when I'm serious. ;)

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Squidiot!
10-06-2005, 04:18 PM
Yeah, but 12 your neg made me lose like 21 rep points. :(

nomar
10-06-2005, 04:27 PM
I have to admit....when i went to Chicago (for the season opener) I was amazed at how nice the people in the city were. I mean if you bumped into someone, they'd say 'excuse me' before you could. I feel in love with Chi-town, but i do rate in 2nd...behind Boston (what can you expect). I city i've disliked teh most has been Philly. Everyone there were complete assholes. Every single bar we went to, we heard people talking behind our backs. Altough the city itslef is beautiful.

Dan_POS....i just laugh at your post. You are a complete moron, and your attempts at getting under our skin is lame and sad. Get a life kiddo.

emerald slasher
10-06-2005, 04:34 PM
jordan>knicks :cool:

nomar
10-06-2005, 04:39 PM
jordan>knicks :cool:

Bird > Jorden :cool:

emerald slasher
10-06-2005, 04:51 PM
bird< or= jordan

Twelve
10-06-2005, 04:54 PM
Yeah, but 12 your neg made me lose like 21 rep points. :(

Awww, crap, I negged you? How come I don't remember doing that? (*cough*) Alright, alright...I'll pos you to make it up. I generally also pos rep people after I neg rep them.... IF I LIKE THEM, THAT IS! ;)

I can't stand Jordan or Bird, ok? Both did too much damage to my Knicks. Glad they're both gone...lol.

I added new pics, a particular formation(hehe), and a poll to the website. Check it out!

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The Exile
10-06-2005, 04:59 PM
Awww, crap, I negged you? How come I don't remember doing that? (*cough*) Alright, alright...I'll pos you to make it up. I generally also pos rep people after I neg rep them.... IF I LIKE THEM, THAT IS! ;)

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Got your back, 12. I possed him for you.

The Prophet
10-06-2005, 05:00 PM
You guys and rep...jus ...weird..like you get horny with repping ppl its nasty.

O i wish i could rep you buddy...o ya..*touches self* pos baby pos.

I see that way too much. Wonder how many rep ppl should have if they didnt get rep from their clan :rolleyes:


Dan_POS, you got e-penis envy?

Squidiot!
10-06-2005, 05:04 PM
Awww, crap, I negged you? How come I don't remember doing that? (*cough*) Alright, alright...I'll pos you to make it up. I generally also pos rep people after I neg rep them.... IF I LIKE THEM, THAT IS! ;)

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Wow, you guys are so nice. :) Thanks alot Exiled, i really appreciate it!

Twelve
10-06-2005, 05:47 PM
*thumbs up for Exile*

WaCk-HeAd
10-06-2005, 05:52 PM
Bird > Jorden :cool:

Word.

Man even I can take down Jordan with one hand.

bobdagangsta
10-06-2005, 06:00 PM
u gonna go pro?

emerald slasher
10-06-2005, 06:07 PM
Word.

Man even I can take down Jordan with one hand.

mj school all of u :p

bobdagangsta
10-06-2005, 06:15 PM
if wack went pro he would by everyone gold accounts. :)

WaCk-HeAd
10-06-2005, 06:17 PM
Lol, I'm not nearly good enough to go pro, but I love to talk trash :)

bobdagangsta
10-06-2005, 06:18 PM
heh well try ur hardest i have spirit in ya :)

WaCk-HeAd
10-06-2005, 06:19 PM
That's always good to hear, but you just concentrate on the match you're playing, young man.

bobdagangsta
10-06-2005, 06:20 PM
YES SIR. lol

Moose
10-06-2005, 07:04 PM
Being a pro in anything is over-rated, it's the college kids these days that have my respect, NFL, NBA, etc, it's all just money and pride.

So Kudos to the college boi's and girls of the grill, YA HEARD!!!!

bobdagangsta
10-06-2005, 07:30 PM
well moose u do have a good point.

Squidiot!
10-06-2005, 07:32 PM
Bob congrats for breaking the 1500 mark!

bobdagangsta
10-06-2005, 07:33 PM
thanks squid it tooka while though :)

allstarGL
10-06-2005, 09:47 PM
Heres to you bob!

:yahoo: :yahoo: :*dance: :yahoo: :yahoo:

FryLock
10-07-2005, 01:19 AM
Random, completely off-topic post:

Our IM (intramural) football team just won our 1st game of the season, against the other team from the law school!

It was crap all the way...the administration lost our paperwork, so only 4 guys were technically eligible. We managed to talk them up to 7, which meant that all of us had to play the whole game both ways (it's 7-on-7). So with the refs already pissed off, we start the game.

Our defense falters early, and we go down 13-0. Then we make some adjustments on both sides of the ball, and enter halftime at 13-6, thanks to a monstrous catch from our wideout.

2nd half contains some BULLSHIT ('scuse me) calls from the officials, and incredible poor sportsmanship from the other team. Nevertheless, our defense holds steady, and with 5 minutes left, our offense finds itself on 4th down deep in our own territory. Instead of punting, our QB decides to take a risk, and hits our wideout for a HUGE gain, down into their red zone!

But once again, their defense braces, and puts us at 4th and goal. My specialty is defense, but since we've only got 7, I've been lining up in the slot all game, largely ignored. Our QB calls a rollout WR fly, with a slot drag. The ball's snapped, the blitz comes, but our QB dances away, barely. Having done nothing offensive all game, I'm left to drag and wind up just inside the goal line, with everyone a good 5 yards away on all sides. The pass comes - too high! But somehow, my stone hands and white-boy vert are enough to bring it down and IN for the touchdown! We convert on the 2-pointer, so we lead 14-13...but it's not done yet.

With 2 minutes left, they start marching down the field, aided by some MORE crap calls. The refs were still pissed off about the beginning of the game, it seems. With 1 minute left, we force them into 4th down at about our 35. I've been running blitzes and short zones all day, and this down, I come in after the QB. He drops, throws, I manage to get *just* a finger on it...just enough so that the pass is underthrown and our safety beats the receiver to the ball and picks it off to end the game!

A thrilling win, made even more sweet because we triumphed over bad sportsmanship and crap officiating.

Thanks for reading, I hope this was worth the 5 minutes it may have taken you to read.

Afterword: In case anyone's wondering, no this isn't tackle (can you imagine?) but flag football. Although with the blocks and rough stuff, it might as well be tackle. 7 men on a side, the field is divided into 4 zones, with 4 downs to gain a zone. As for penalties...let's just say, don't piss off the refs before the game, even if it's their own fault, because it'll come back to bite you in the ass.

NETJAK WIN! Well, actually, our team is called O Law. But still. It's the principle of the thing.

The Exile
10-07-2005, 05:16 AM
Being English and hearing you say you were 13-0 down at half time, I thought you were talking about "soccer" (real football) for a minute... :confused:

bludhoundz
10-07-2005, 05:57 AM
Fry, its always the most fun to win against the odds. :)

Great plays, by the way :D

Wack..why is it that every post about basketball is about you winning? ;)

Spliff
10-07-2005, 06:12 AM
Fry, its always the most fun to win against the odds. :)

Great plays, by the way :D

Wack..why is it that every post about basketball is about you winning? ;)

Maybe he's good like that?

bobdagangsta
10-07-2005, 06:19 AM
Wack said he just likes to talk trash. :dry:

Spliff
10-07-2005, 06:26 AM
that too

bobdagangsta
10-07-2005, 06:29 AM
but i still think Bird is awesome but not better than MJ.

WaCk-HeAd
10-07-2005, 07:19 AM
Wack..why is it that every post about basketball is about you winning? ;)

Because I rock? Doh?

Great win by the way Fry, very nice.

One thing though, and correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Flag football for the wimps that can't play real football?

Just wondering.

*anonomous*
10-07-2005, 07:27 AM
i love your anagram just not NJ....

old_man_killer
10-07-2005, 07:38 AM
A thrilling win, made even more sweet because we triumphed over bad sportsmanship and crap officiating.


Hmmm, I see a pattern emerging in your life :rolleyes:

bobdagangsta
10-07-2005, 07:42 AM
I've played flag football and its not bad.

The Prophet
10-07-2005, 08:10 AM
One thing though, and correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Flag football for the wimps that can't play real football?

Just wondering.

Hey, my son plays flag football!

Dan_F_U
10-07-2005, 08:18 AM
Hey, my son plays flag football!

Bob is your son :confused: :cool:

wolf-boy
10-07-2005, 08:30 AM
Prophet is my sister.

bobdagangsta
10-07-2005, 08:37 AM
that means that ur my uncle or aunt.

WaCk-HeAd
10-07-2005, 08:40 AM
Ok enough with the weird family relations.

By the way, Bob is going to rock in turtles! Give us some time and we'll pwn!

wolf-boy
10-07-2005, 08:44 AM
I'm getting to turtles, and i kinda liked it. I played omegagalaxy..ouch.

bobdagangsta
10-07-2005, 08:50 AM
wack u got that right

Spliff
10-07-2005, 08:51 AM
Turtle is the best, accept no imitations.

wolf-boy
10-07-2005, 08:52 AM
Lol, I like your banner, turtles just requires more thinking.

bobdagangsta
10-07-2005, 08:53 AM
yes they do.

wolf-boy
10-07-2005, 08:57 AM
You put a lot of thought into your posts don't you?

Spliff
10-07-2005, 09:10 AM
What can i say he's a genius at work.
http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/images/fat_guy.jpg

bobdagangsta
10-07-2005, 09:15 AM
lol cya im out for the weekend on soccer tournament. going away.

The Exile
10-07-2005, 09:15 AM
Problem is, it breaks the banners width rule.

Spliff
10-07-2005, 09:24 AM
i dunno how to shrink it

Twelve
10-07-2005, 09:55 AM
Man even I can take down Jordan with one hand.

C'mon dude...that's not trash-talking. Trash talking only works if there is at least a HINT of credibility behind it.

Being a pro in anything is over-rated, it's the college kids these days that have my respect, NFL, NBA, etc, it's all just money and pride.

Oh spare me. All of these "kids" are dying to go pro themselves.

well moose u do have a good point.

BOB! Stop with the one line posts please...try to have a bit more content when you post. You're apparently a smart person...seeing as there is a pic on the new website of you beating Gladiator...hehe. Good job with that.

NETJAK WIN! Well, actually, our team is called O Law. But still. It's the principle of the thing

O Law WIIIIN! Nice story, bro. Didn't know you played football. Knew you wrestled, but didn't know you can handle the pigskin too!

turtles just requires more thinking.

That's bull. It's a different form of playing, and that's about it. If a turtle required more thinking, why does it bore the crap out of me? It bores the crap of me because it's not my style, just like NOT turtling is not your style. Turtles saying their form is superior is so old and lame. And I looooove chess...which is truly something that requires more thinking but that's why I love it.

i dunno how to shrink it

Well, get rid of it first. so it stop bending the thread out of shape...sheesh. I like seeing a pretty lady like the next guy, but...

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Spliff
10-07-2005, 10:00 AM
came across this, man is that messed up.
http://pix.nofrag.com/8a/2f/afea3e67b74d67bd53347256d704.gif

old_man_killer
10-07-2005, 10:00 AM
Lol, I like your banner, turtles just requires more thinking.

I agree, because you have to do something with all that free time waiting for your pieces to get close enough to actually hit something, you might as well be thinking.

The Prophet
10-07-2005, 10:04 AM
Spliff, try this

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5497/header1mp.jpg

Twelve
10-07-2005, 10:04 AM
I agree, because you have to do something with all that free time waiting for your pieces to get close enough to actually hit something, you might as well be thinking.

I approve of this post. So does my rep. :)

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Spliff
10-07-2005, 10:08 AM
Spliff, try this

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5497/header1mp.jpg

thanks prophet
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to The Prophet again.
darn

Twelve
10-07-2005, 10:19 AM
Thanx Proph. (I couldn't rep you either) Now THAT's a very fine looking banner you got there, Spliff.

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Spliff
10-07-2005, 10:24 AM
Hah thanks 12, repp'd you

wolf-boy
10-07-2005, 10:39 AM
Well, along with what OMK said, luck doesn't play one of those big factors, and when there is less luck, more skill will be needed, there is no other element that rather factors in.

bobdagangsta
10-07-2005, 10:40 AM
well i was messing around with animation shop and i discovered that the ga could become a MJ jumpman sign. check it out. its pretty cool.

http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/4254/jumpman2wd.png

Spliff
10-07-2005, 10:42 AM
well i was messing around with animation shop and i discovered that the ga could become a MJ jumpman sign. check it out. its pretty cool.

http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/4254/jumpman2wd.png

I thought you left for the weekend already but none the less cool. :cool:

wolf-boy
10-07-2005, 10:45 AM
Lol, that's pretty cool.

bobdagangsta
10-07-2005, 10:46 AM
spliff im leaving pretty soon i had 2 get off then i got a chance to get back one so i took it. :)

Twelve
10-07-2005, 10:47 AM
Well, along with what OMK said, luck doesn't play one of those big factors, and when there is less luck, more skill will be needed, there is no other element that rather factors in.

Oh. And you're going to tell me there is no luck in turtle games?

"Sure there is, but less," you're going to say.

Funny then, how in a turtle vs turtle game, you NEED scouts to win. Everyone knows that if you lose your scouts before your opponent in a turtle game, you're in much trouble. And I would also like to see a turtler who dares to play with only one scout here.

I like games where all pieces have their own significance and where the game isn't considered over if ONE piece is dead (like the beloved cleric for the turtlers). Funny thing is, the game will mature much more once people start to simply play and not asking for set games...I face so many forms out there that a turtle would rock, but because turtlers are now afraid to face anything except their own kind, they're destroying their own art.

And we call this superior skill?

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wolf-boy
10-07-2005, 10:47 AM
Time well wasted. I Don't even know how to get/do animations. I wish I could get my avy to a frost animation.

bobdagangsta
10-07-2005, 10:48 AM
wolf boy want me to make ur frosty do animation for ya?

wolf-boy
10-07-2005, 10:52 AM
Sure.


Twelve, exactly what you said I would say, there is less. But since the scout has that extra armor, your opponent could not just dragon and mud, or dragon and scout, and so on. So, Basically, you need to defend your base units(cleric,stone) then If you are capable of doing so, go after your opponent forcing him to retreat, then you've got a hack and slash fest where you will kill his cleric eventually. So turtling is nothing more than offense retreat, or defense charge. You just need to know what you're doing, but when luck factos in the most, it may not require as much skill as a turtle game may.

EDIT: I play one scout games sometimes, legends style of course. I played one with spirit ninja actually. I flawlessed him, but maybe he just isn't good.

Twelve
10-07-2005, 10:55 AM
Sure.


Twelve, exactly what you said I would say, there is less. But since the scout has that extra armor, your opponent could not just dragon and mud, or dragon and scout, and so on. So, Basically, you need to defend your base units(cleric,stone) then If you are capable of doing so, go after your opponent forcing him to retreat, then you've got a hack and slash fest where you will kill his cleric eventually. So turtling is nothing more than offense retreat, or defense charge. You just need to know what you're doing, but when luck factos in the most, it may not require as much skill as a turtle game may.

But see, ALL of that goes down the drain if you lose your cleric. :)

That reminds me of the Russian tanks when they invaded Afghanistan. The Afghans figured out that all Russian tanks, despite their size and supposed strength, had a very simple weakness that they exploited over and over again. Tore UP the Russians.

That to me isn't something praiseworthy.

And you ignored my point about the turtle's worth being diminished because all ya'll do is play yourselves.

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wolf-boy
10-07-2005, 10:58 AM
But, if you lose your cleric, take something out for it, or even keep it if you can, rethreaten them as you would in a freestyle game. But I can say that most turtler cant rush, because they're not used to it, and most rushers cant turtle, doesn't so much require skill, but more of being used to.

Spliff
10-07-2005, 11:16 AM
thank god i can do both :bigsmile:

roody poo
10-07-2005, 11:18 AM
I should add that the NHL starts today.
God bless this hump day.

See you all at the pub - go sens.

I am two days behind on this thread with 8 pages in front of me....

Anyway NHL:

WAR Flames
WAR Predators

Out.

Twelve
10-07-2005, 11:20 AM
But, if you lose your cleric, take something out for it, or even keep it if you can, rethreaten them as you would in a freestyle game. But I can say that most turtler cant rush, because they're not used to it, and most rushers cant turtle, doesn't so much require skill, but more of being used to.

Oh c'mon. In a turtle vs. turtle game, if one side actually managed to take out the opponents cleric and get away with it without losing his own, the person still owning the cleric would have to be a n00b to lose.

As for your generalization, I think you're being TOO general.

You're still ignoring a point I made.

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Spliff
10-07-2005, 11:20 AM
Woot Woot Roody's up in this mofo

bobdagangsta
10-07-2005, 11:22 AM
roody do u play hockey?

roody poo
10-07-2005, 11:23 AM
Sorry, but i think that x-useme isnt as bad as half of JW, If you have a problem with any of my posts please pm me with the problem and ill edit it.
Thanks
Squid

I really think 12 was being sarcastic/witty. But what do I know.... only what 12 tells me to know.

EDIT: Found this.....

Squid, since I have no problem with you, I'll tell you that my post regarding X-Useme was pure jest. If I truly had a problem with that post, oh, you would have KNOWN. While people often don't know if I'm joking or not, people always know when I'm serious. ;)

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See, I told you I only know what 12 tells me to know. I think it is time for a new C.U.T.

WaCk-HeAd
10-07-2005, 11:24 AM
I'm playing a hard game against Socrates now Twelve, but I'll respond in a minute.

I'm VERY glad to get this guy into Netjak, he's an amazing grey.

Twelve
10-07-2005, 11:26 AM
roody do u play hockey?

Bob, much love to ya brah...but you've had like 20 one line posts in the past two days. Before the more harsher side of netjak gets on you for it...please...post less but with more quality. I can't neg you because you're with net, but...there have been boys here who have posted like you and gotten TORN up because of it.

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roody poo
10-07-2005, 11:29 AM
Half the city, let alone half the state, just doesn't care. Its kinda sad. :bad: Unless you actually go dowtown Right after the game.. yeah Nothing is happening. At least from where I'm sitting.. Maybe things are different up in AoL's neck of the wood. *shrug*


Been a cubbie all my life. I was glued to the TV during the Bartman era errrrrrrrrrrr error, and was living and dying on every pitch along with the rest of the Cub faithfuls. I think that was probably one of the biggest things in Chicago possibly rival to Jordan. However nothing made me more sick than all the bandwagon fans that tried to ride the "suffering" personna with the rest of cub nation. BAH! White Sox.... who cares, throw another series. Actually that was a great team, but really it is so crazy how Chicago is so baseball hungary but only over one team. I think it is an example of how it isn't about baseball at all but about the Cub mystique. *shrug*

Going to a Cub's game isn't a game, it's an event. It's a party. I can't wait till this summer when I officially join the bleacher bums in my first trip to Wrigley after 21 years of waiting.

roody poo
10-07-2005, 11:54 AM
Some of these might be too difficult for you that find my wit hard to understand:


Our IM (intramural) football team just won our 1st game of the season, against the other team from the law school!

I was going to ask if this was a girl's league, but you mentioned some dude's so i can only guess this is a co-ed league.


all of us had to play the whole game both ways


I guess going both ways might have been hard for some, which probably made you the star player?


and we go down 13-0.

And you still feel like talking after all those times?


thanks to a monstrous catch from our wideout.

So during the game you went from a tightend to a wide receiver?

our offense finds itself deep in our own territory.

Were'nt you playing against another team? they probably felt left out with all the attention you showed yourselves.

But once again, their defense braces

is that why you use a mouthpiece to bite hard on?

with a slot drag.

so do you wear pads under your skirts?

but our QB dances away, barely.

the QB probably only recently embraced his orientation.

I'm left to drag and wind up just inside

So are you catching or pitching now?

flag football.


well we would all hate to see your implants harmed in a tackle game.... but I hear you wide receivers seem to like it rough.

roody poo
10-07-2005, 11:57 AM
Woot Woot Roody's up in this mofo

Word. Some of the time even Rood's real life gets in the way. But I always return.

roody do u play hockey?

Would love to, but unfortunately I only know 2 other people that can even skate. And there is no hockey league around that isn't professional... or at least that I have found.

Edit:
Bob, much love to ya brah...but you've had like 20 one line posts in the past two days. Before the more harsher side of netjak gets on you for it...please...post less but with more quality. I can't neg you because you're with net, but...there have been boys here who have posted like you and gotten TORN up because of it.

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I figure as long as Coffin is going to post a retirement every two pages of every netjak thread, then I will cut this guy some slack for harmless intra-clan spamming.

FryLock
10-07-2005, 11:59 AM
Wow. I'm flattered that you took the time to do this, but rather disturbed by the number of homosexual readings you seem to take.

Tell me, when Sunday football is on, do you just sit in front of the tv with beer, hand lotion, and tissues?

As for why it's flag football - #1, no university on earth would want to be liable for injuries suffered during tackle football, #2, getting all that equipment together for IM sports would be costly, and #3, I'm a graduate student...dumbasses. I'm not even eligible for any official college sports. But I put my time in on the mat and on the ice in high school and college (12, did you know I played goalie for a bit?) so I really don't care much about what a skinny little Dutch boy and fat, hippy, couch-jerk-off roody have to say. :cool:

roody poo
10-07-2005, 12:07 PM
Wow. I'm flattered that you took the time to do this, but rather disturbed by the number of homosexual readings you seem to take.

I just found it interesting that a girl is able to play football with the guys. But you all are a bunch of lawyers, how tuff could you play?


Tell me, when Sunday football is on, do you just sit in front of the tv with beer, hand lotion, and tissues?

beer yes / lotion and tissues no. I figure those are reserved for your tightend to wide receiver conversion.

I really don't care much about what a skinny little Dutch boy and fat, hippy, couch-jerk-off roody have to say. :cool:
Fat... yeah I've put on a few pounds.
Hippy... guess it depends on who you stand me next to. Long hair (check) Facial hair (check) Digs music (check) Mind altering substances (no as much anymore). I mean I do shower and don't smell like patulli, I have a job and a car/house that doesn't say VW on the front. Make your own judgement call I suppose.
Couch-jerk-off... only when my internet porn sites are down.

WaCk-HeAd
10-07-2005, 12:17 PM
Don't even start Twelve, because you have no idea what you're getting into. You're so completely wrong, it's not even funny anymore. I'll respond to your post piece by piece.

Oh. And you're going to tell me there is no luck in turtle games?

"Sure there is, but less," you're going to say.
Thanks for answering that yourself. Funny how you have no response for it though.

Funny then, how in a turtle vs turtle game, you NEED scouts to win. Everyone knows that if you lose your scouts before your opponent in a turtle game, you're in much trouble. And I would also like to see a turtler who dares to play with only one scout here.

I hope this is not your response to our claim that turtles involve less luck, since it has nothing to do with luck AT ALL. You claim that there are several units more important than others in turtle games, which is true. But I don't really see what's so wrong with it though. Why does it matter that a scout is more important than a knight in a turtle game, since it goes for both players?

This is actually a good thing since it will ask for a strategy. For example you need to protect your own cleric / stoney / frostie / range, but while you're doing it you also need to find your way to kill these important units of your opponent. This ask for a strategy since both players (usually) start of in a defensive position.


I like games where all pieces have their own significance and where the game isn't considered over if ONE piece is dead (like the beloved cleric for the turtlers).

It's completely your choice to like whatever you want. You're allowed to use all units except for one in turtles (I'm using Monkus' rules right now) so nothing is stopping you.

Then there's your example. It's true that a cleric is very important in a turtle game, which means you must be a complete idiot if you let your cleric die without taking enough from him to still stand a chance.

Every turtler knows the importance of his units and he'll adapt his strategy to it. Which is why this (mostly) only happens when someone is being outplayed, which is what we have been claiming since forever. You lose a turtle game (mostly) because you got outplayed, not outblocked.


Funny thing is, the game will mature much more once people start to simply play and not asking for set games...

Uhm I guess? I don't really know how the game will mature but what I'm seeing right now is that if we don't ask for a set game we won't be able to play the way we want to play this game, because the game is so unbalanced.

I face so many forms out there that a turtle would rock, but because turtlers are now afraid to face anything except their own kind, they're destroying their own art.

This is just completely ridiculous. This really is just not true. People who "freestyle" mostly use 80% of their units on the frontline. Usually involving a GA and muddy right in front of you. Making your game almost impossible to win.



And we call this superior skill?

Yes, and rightfully too.

Madars
10-07-2005, 12:24 PM
Don't you know by now? I have netjak brainwashed to follow my every command. I might as well let TAO know about my hypno-skills. Sheesh man...haven't you noticed?

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Hmmm i havnt noticed anything strange.......

**Brings 12 lunch**

:help:

-Mad-

legacy67
10-07-2005, 01:29 PM
I have never been a big fan of turtles, mostly because I lack the patience and attention span for such a long and slow game. :p

I think that there is more evolution to happen in this game. Many more ways to play will emerge and should since the game is built to be so free flowing. I personally won't be turtling (pretty much ever), but it's cool that people can find ways to play the game that make it a better personal experience.

Twelve
10-07-2005, 04:18 PM
Wack, I have to go. It IS Friday night and I have to get this house clean for company. But let me tell you, I'm going to tear that post up....MONDAY!

Have a nice weekend folks!!!

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WaCk-HeAd
10-07-2005, 04:23 PM
Oh please, you don't stand a chance.

Madars
10-07-2005, 04:37 PM
Comeon Wack and 12,cant you two just hug and make up? :)

-Mad-

22woger22
10-07-2005, 05:13 PM
I can't neg you because you're with net
And I thought you weren't biased!

:)

Office_Shredder
10-07-2005, 05:14 PM
I think that there is more evolution to happen in this game. Many more ways to play will emerge and should since the game is built to be so free flowing.

This is highly unlikely.... the rush came around after three months of TAO's existence (the bomb after only two). Meanwhile, nothing significantly new has come around in the year and three quarters that have passed since then. Only a new unit (might) be able to shake things up (keep in mind the past two new units really didn't help the free flowing situation)