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[Twelve]

Originally posted by Bottle
I believe that a turtle is like a city. It starts off undefended, so its weakness is at the beginning, like a surprise attack on a town. But then it slowly builds up its walls, takes stock, and then strikes with superior units (extra armor) against the lightly armored invaders. The only problem a fortified city (furgon turtle) ever had was a catapault that destroyed its walls (muddie, or occasionally pyros). Send out a small attack force to take out the catapaults early on, build your defences, and strike when you choose with the benefit of ranged attack from behind the walls. Use your minefield (LW) to great effect. Don't allow a nimble enemy to get to your king and queen in the heart of your citadel (cleric and stony). If they do get into your city, trap them in the narrow Shrub Street and pick them off (frosty and scouts).

On the other hand, if the catapaults are kept hidden away, or the invaders attack before the defenses are complete, the city is doomed.

Back to the game, I was wondering if a bunch of melee units at the back of the board would stop a rush? The enemy would have to come to them, and not many at a time. They could take them down one at a time. The only problem I forsee with this is if the cleric gets killed because you're being too defensive. I'm sure a furgon would help too.

How about this; cleric, furgon, frosty, 3 knights, dragon, 2 scouts. Put the scouts in either back corner, the cleric in the middle, furgon and frosty near the cleric, knights and dragon in front of the cleric. Any thoughts?

I like your analogy. Very well thought out. Here's my main problem:

If the furgon's bushes are supposedly like the walls of a city, then the problem I see is when the furgon gets toasted before he can make too many walls. That's like a bunch of wall-makers beginning to build a wall when they see the enemy below the hill. It's TOO LATE!!

You're right; if the enemy was far away from the city by the time the wall-makers began to make a wall, then there is a serious chance of winning.

But this is not the case of any good rush/bomb...the enemy begins right at your doorsteps!! No defensive technique works if there is no time to put it into action.


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[Bottle]

Which is why you try and hold the enemy off desperately, to allow your wall builders time enough to get the defenses sorted. Of course, if the wall builders are shot, you're in trouble. But there is one major difference between real warfare and the game. You can only move one unit at a time. After 5 turns each, the rusher has had a few shots. The turtler has had time to build 3 lots of shrubs, stone, and heal if necessary, or take a potshot at a threatening unit. It's not like real life, where you have everything coming at you at once. You have more time.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Bottle
Which is why you try and hold the enemy off desperately, to allow your wall builders time enough to get the defenses sorted. Of course, if the wall builders are shot, you're in trouble. But there is one major difference between real warfare and the game. You can only move one unit at a time. After 5 turns each, the rusher has had a few shots. The turtler has had time to build 3 lots of shrubs, stone, and heal if necessary, or take a potshot at a threatening unit. It's not like real life, where you have everything coming at you at once. You have more time.

See, the point about this game being turn-based is a good one.

HOWEVER, let's be honest. If the game wasn't turned-based, the turtle wouldn't even be an obsolete formation...it would've have never come into existence.

I think bringing up the turn-based nature of this game may have hurt your argument, Bottle.

P.S. Oh, and on a different vein, I just want to thank you once again for trying to be fair regarding our latest netjak drama. Thank you very much. You're the most netjak-like non-netjakker there is here. :)




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[Thargor]

Originally posted by Twelve

That's why I made sure to mention that no great battle in history was won by this game's definition of a turtle.


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Allright. before we can argue that point, we should define what the elements of a turtle are? What makes them work at all in the first place?

I submit that a good turtler(with a good set) can do the following: Get you to overextend your units, so that those in the far front can not be supported properly. They can force you to fight in restricted quarters where you cant get the bulk of your army to bear on the enemy. They can use the terrain (furgon) against you. Have real battles been won by these methods? you betcha.

[WaCk-HeAd]

Lose the whole god damn city idea.. It's simply.. you have to do serious damage and kill the key units..

ok i'll try to do it in city terms.. you can already have walls.. your knights.. make them stronger by even stoning them.. use them to block off your key units (scouts/frostie), then kill off their key units because they're open, and then use the frostie to trap their massive damage punks..

And twelve.. i'm not talking about the whole movie.. i'm talking about that part, and that part was seriously realistic.. at least the strategy was.. That's how you beat a spread, Simple as that..

EDIT: remember haywood jablome? he's on legends right now.. LOL isn't he a banff vet?

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Thargor
Allright. before we can argue that point, we should define what the elements of a turtle are? What makes them work at all in the first place?

I submit that a good turtler(with a good set) can do the following: Get you to overextend your units, so that those in the far front can not be supported properly. They can force you to fight in restricted quarters where you cant get the bulk of your army to bear on the enemy. They can use the terrain (furgon) against you. Have battles been won by these methods? you betcha.

Sure, that's guerilla warfare, isn't it? The guys invading an enemy territory MUST come with greater firepower to make up for their lack of knowledge of the enemy's backyard.

But once again, even in guerilla warfare, they don't bunch up in a corner. Guerilla warfare most certainly must be spread out and offensive. They use the overall terrain to confuse the enemy, and they don't make the terrain themselves(furgon). And the terrain obstacles can't be taken down by the mere swing of an assassin.

Think about how ridiculous that is; guerillas are using hills and mountains to jack up the enemy, and the invader sends in an assassin. The assassin goes in, swings around with her pretty self, and THREE mountains disappear.

Come on, man.


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[WaCk-HeAd]

I agree Guerilla makes use of the environment and element of suprise.. that simply isn't possible if you're facing a decent opponent.. you don't have an element of suprise in this game..

[Twelve]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd
Lose the whole god damn city idea.. It's simply.. you have to do serious damage and kill the key units..

ok i'll try to do it in city terms.. you can already have walls.. your knights.. make them stronger by even stoning them.. use them to block off your key units (scouts/frostie), then kill off their key units because they're open, and then use the frostie to trap their massive damage punks..

And twelve.. i'm not talking about the whole movie.. i'm talking about that part, and that part was seriously realistic.. at least the strategy was.. That's how you beat a spread, Simple as that..

EDIT: remember haywood jablome? he's on legends right now.. LOL isn't he a banff vet?

1. Oh, so this game has walls that can walk around and swing swords? Ok. To me, a knight is a human unit. A knight formation can definitely be defensive, but once you set those bad boys on fire, they die. Walls don't die. :)

2.I brought up those scenes in the movie to show you the premise of corny-ness upon which the entire movie is based. :) That scene where a bunch of rabble gather together in the middle of the ring and magically defeat Rome's finest and well fed and conditioned soldiers was certainly entertaining. And I love watching it. But it's utterly unrealistic. It's a MOVIE, bro.


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[WaCk-HeAd]

DUDE the tactic was brilliant, stop talking about god damn hollywood, and look at that scene, i'm not talking about only that situation.. i'm talking about the tactic.. It was brilliant and could not have been beaten by "rome's finest" unless by brilliant luck and those gladiators survived some serious battles.. i don't think they just suck butthole.. the ones that did got slaughtered.. use the tactic.. and you survived.. the battle was even shown as to be turn based.. there's no better example.. seriously..

You don't think knights can be used as walls? who's gonna try to kill a stoned knight from the front? nobody.. unless they're idiots.. we're talking symbolic here.. Knights can be used as walls defintely.. the meaning of walls in battle is to block of your opponent to get to your precious units.. knight can do the same thing..

[Twelve]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd
DUDE the tactic was brilliant, stop talking about god damn hollywood, and look at that scene, i'm not talking about only that situation.. i'm talking about the tactic.. It was brilliant and could not have been beaten by "rome's finest" unless by brilliant luck and those gladiators survived some serious battles.. i don't think they just suck butthole.. the ones that did got slaughtered.. use the tactic.. and you survived.. the battle was even shown as to be turn based.. there's no better example.. seriously..

You don't think knights can be used as walls? who's gonna try to kill a stoned knight from the front? nobody.. unless they're idiots.. we're talking symbolic here.. Knights can be used as walls defintely.. the meaning of walls in battle is to block of your opponent to get to your precious units.. knight can do the same thing..

Bro, I'm not even going to debate the realities and fantasies of movies with you. I'm just going to say that it's a movie and therefore a moot point.

A stones knight is so great, eh? That's funny, because by the time those THREE knights move into a position where they can actually defend something against a bomb/rush, that almighty stone golem will be shot by SOMETHING and the knights will lose their strength.

Yeah, nice walls.

Anyways, it was nice debating with you guys. I actually DO want to play TAO today. I'll school you guys later. :p


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[Thargor]

Originally posted by Twelve
Sure, that's guerilla warfare, isn't it? The guys invading an enemy territory MUST come with greater firepower to make up for their lack of knowledge of the enemy's backyard.

But once again, even in guerilla warfare, they don't bunch up in a corner. Guerilla warfare most certainly must be spread out and offensive. They use the overall terrain to confuse the enemy, and they don't make the terrain themselves(furgon). And the terrain obstacles can't be taken down by the mere swing of an assassin.

Think about how ridiculous that is; guerillas are using hills and mountains to jack up the enemy, and the invader sends in an assassin. The assassin goes in, swings around with her pretty self, and THREE mountains disappear.

Come on, man.


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You didnt respond to my point. My point is that the Turtle formation is sucessful because it uses the IDEAS of guerilla warefare, in the fashion that they can be effectively used in the game.

Of course, if your enemy burns the forest down, you can't hide in it. The perennial problem when faced with overwhelming offense.

[WaCk-HeAd]

I think the spread formation uses the idea of Guerillia to be honest, spread in small groups.. attacking from all different sides,

[Bottle]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd
It's simply.. you have to do serious damage and kill the key units..

I can't let this pass.

Serious damage to the key units? What are you talking about? The key units are the cleric, the stoney and the frostie. The stony doesn't even need to be killed. The cleric dies in two shots, one from some things. The frostie, when not armored (and who armors their frosty?), dies in about 4 hits from scouts, even with healing.

The whole point of the rush is to take out these units first, then take the scouts (unarmored if possible) and mop up what's left with the reserves you have. If you use your rush to try and take out the armored units first, you're doing it the wrong way. Unless you take off the armor first, in which case, it kind of negates the point of them being hard to kill, no? ;)

[WaCk-HeAd]

I look at it from a different view, i'm talking about the turtle taking out a rush

Key units in a rush is the range.. because the rest will be eaten by the frostie you don't have much time to use the cleric, you don't use a stony, and a frostie is rare as well.... and this is my point.. Use the knights to block of the rush to kill your frostie/cleric/scouts/, use them as a wall.. if the rusher can't attack your key units, they have a serious problem.. especially when the turtle has a lward..

[Thargor]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd
I think the spread formation uses the idea of Guerillia to be honest, spread in small groups.. attacking from all different sides,

In guerilla warfare you let the enemy come to you, to your ground where you have the advantage of cover, and knowledge of the terrain, and if you had enough time, you set it up so that you can ambush a unit and remove it without being effectively targeted yourself.

[Thargor]

I think i nearly doubled my post count in this thread :p

[WaCk-HeAd]

in Guerilla warfare the opponent doesn't know the terrain, the opponent doesn't know where the weak spots are, the turtle's weaknesses are well known, so is the terrain..

But i'll give you this one.. when you put it like that.. it doesn't seem i'm right cause the rush overpowers the turtle.. I'll give you that one :)

EDIT: didn't see twelve's last post.. Bottle said it, everyone will try to kill the keyunits first.. if you're able to block that off.. you win that game.. seriously.. _-x-X-x-_ did show me that, even though he's an overrated idiot, he showed me how to beat a rush without a furgon

[Bottle]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd
Key units in a rush is the range.. because the rest will be eaten by the frostie

Close. The key units in a rush are the range, AND THE MUDDIE. The rest will indeed be eaten by the frostie, if he survives that long.

[DKR]

I used to armour my furgon

[WaCk-HeAd]

Sorry that was my fault bottle.. i included the muddy in the range, because of quake and its movement.. but i meant the muddy as well..

[Bottle]

And what else? You HAVE to armor both scouts or they're nigh useless, and armoring the muddie is vital if you want to use him. Armoring the frostie helps, but there's often not enough space for him. And in a turtle-turtle match, armoring the furgy is a waste of an armor spot.

[DKR]

You are predicting though that I turtle and also that I am playing a turtle vs. turtle game.

Almost every time I have used a furgon I have used it offensively along with my other units and generally I have won with it.

[Thargor]

Originally posted by Bottle

How about this; cleric, furgon, frosty, 3 knights, dragon, 2 scouts. Put the scouts in either back corner, the cleric in the middle, furgon and frosty near the cleric, knights and dragon in front of the cleric. Any thoughts?


you mean something like this?

http://img40.exs.cx/img40/2922/bottleidea.jpg

[Bottle]

Too burnable? Also, put the knight in front of the dragon.

[Thargor]

yeah it look rather burnable, but if you put the knights up front to stop cleric death, then it defeats the point of the idea, yes?

[Bottle]

I wasn't saying that. The knight cluster is too burnable.

Hmm, maybe put in a LW for a knight? Less firepower, but prevents burn, and gives the opponent pause for thought...

[Thargor]

i like this.

http://img12.exs.cx/img12/2466/bottleidea4.jpg

[FryLock]

A good rusher would be able to take out that isolated LW. since you have no stone, they'd also be able to sit back and take potshots at scouts, dragon and furgy, if you bring him up. Even if those things are always facing front, 60, 50, and 40 % blocking may not keep you alive for too long. That furgon is liable to shrub out some of your own units. If you keep the knights behind the shrub wall, they're fairly useless. If you put them in front of the shrubs, they have nowhere to fall back to.

[Bottle]

Think of the furgon as more for parcelling up sections of the enemy into more manageable chunks, and protecting any weakened units. The only problem I see is only 5 damage units still, and no armor. It'd lose to a turtle, but I think it would work well against a rush.

Most rushes don't have enough unblockable attacks to kill a LW quickly. And if they do it slowly, that gives you more time. Giving an opponent time is not the best thing for a rusher to do.

[Medemia]

Hey, I got quoted in Bottle's siggy. What do you know?

Although, I think I misspoke. I should have said "Bottle, you are a wise A**!"

Love ya too :)

[Hugh Junit]

Ouch! Now Bottle can hang that quote over your head for all eternity , Med. If I were you, I'd bribe him to take it off his sig. I hear he likes cheese.:cool:
*slowly reaches for beer*

[Twelve]

Bah.

Do you know how easily a true rusher would sacrifice a pyro to burn the crap out of that cleric?

Look. The only way to truly face off against a spread rush is to spread rush yourself. And then it's a matter of who has the better formation and strategy.


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[WaCk-HeAd]

Dude.. i can look at your banner for hours.. that thing seriously is the bomb!

[Thargor]

Originally posted by Twelve
Bah.

Do you know how easily a true rusher would sacrifice a pyro to burn the crap out of that cleric?

Look. The only way to truly face off against a spread rush is to spread rush yourself. And then it's a matter of who has the better formation and strategy.


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How about a one-sided rush?

[search66]

Trogdor:

You want a rush setup, I'll show you one... Find me today.

[WlfBane]

I used to have a nasty rush formation built upon Frylocks.

Balanced and suitable for almost every occasion

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Thargor
How about a one-sided rush?

My only problem with a one sided rush is that when facing a bomb, many units can be hit at once. I do use a one sided BOMB occasionally, the one that killed everyone back in the day. (Called 12's Rush...you'll see it on the forums).

Word Wack...the banner is off the chain, isn't it?


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[WlfBane]

How about building a rush up upon one side with fast moving units by the edges of the sides and protected then by forward creatures like mud golems, knights and dragons?

[Twelve]

Because anytime you use the word "protect" when it comes to "rush", you've missed the main purpose of a rush. A rush has to be purely offensive, or it can be broken.


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[WlfBane]

I don't know...

No formation is a capable formation unless it works in a defensive and offensive manner. Every formation I have ever made has both these qualities.

You need to prepare your formation in a slight defence for the weaker units mainly to repel bombs, fast moving rushes upon the sides but yet won't hinder if you get the first turn.

A side rush should protect both its flanks (the side against the wall and the side upon the bottom wall) and have a solid moving frontal (set off to the side) from which it can expand to both sides and over take a formation from the front.

[Twelve]

I find that trying to mix offense and defense too much only leads to frustrations. I think it makes us expect too much from the units. I always say that those who try to play both ways end up depending on blocks too much.

WlfBane? Isn't that something you've harped about in the past?

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[WaCk-HeAd]

avatar and banner too freaky?

[Twelve]

That avatar and sig fit you...SO well.

Man, we can't have you quit. You're too phat.


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[WaCk-HeAd]

:(

i'll be around and i'll come to the forums.. just not playing TAO

[roody poo]

Love it.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd
:(

i'll be around and i'll come to the forums.. just not playing TAO

We both know that I can talk you out of that attitude if I really wanted to.

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[WaCk-HeAd]

Haha, Twelve.. seriously you can't :) try if you want.. don't underestimate me and my plans :)
you know what?

I challenge you :)

[Twelve]

Well, I won't do it in public(don't want to embarass myself), but I can say truthful things to you that would make you stay.


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[WaCk-HeAd]

I know.. i was just begging for compliments.. still i don't think you can do anything to change my mind.. because if it wasn't to be something i really believe in, i wouldn't quit TAO in the first place..

[nomar]

How about "stay you piece of crap, or i'll fly to we you live and hand you the worst beat down ever"? that work dude?

[WaCk-HeAd]

Hahaha, you should fly here and get your mom.. she's defintely going to phase of harassing..

anyway.. thanks for the kind words nomar.. i love you man :)

[nomar]

Much love and respect homie!

[Bottle]

Originally posted by Hugh Junit
Ouch! Now Bottle can hang that quote over your head for all eternity , Med. If I were you, I'd bribe him to take it off his sig. I hear he likes cheese.:cool:
*slowly reaches for beer*

The reason it's in my sig is because I respect Med a lot. You won't find me putting a quote like that in my sig from many people.

All the same, I WILL accept a generous donation of cheese to take it out and hide it away... :D

[WaCk-HeAd]

Cheese?

you guys don't know cheese..

Come to holland.. there's where the real cheese is!

AND cheese is bad for your health.. many people don't realise that.. but cheese is actually unhealthy

[Twelve]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd


Come to holland.. there's where the real cheese is!



LOL! Oh, come on. You Holland people can't POSSIBLY think that. Everyone knows that Swiss cheese is the best. I mean, whoever heard of HOLLAND cheese? lol!

Meanwhile, I'm playing with horrible luck. I think the main reason is because for the last three games, I've stopped rotating my formations...

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[nomar]

Well...you'd probably get a good arguement from the cheese-heads in Wisconson!

[dim]

Originally posted by Twelve
I've stopped rotating my formations...12

This is truly the sign I have been waiting for now I know it is a fact.
First I come back from a weekend to find my hero and mentor has quit TAO.
Second I see that Ach has been banned from TAO
Third Sir Vival is now DR's biggest fan and defender.
Fourth Bootsie has actually posted many threads over 2 days where he has not patted his back but gave encouragement to others.
Now this 12 has stopped rotating forms. That is the one thing I learned most from you sir is to never use the same form 2 games in a row.

****THE WORLD IS TRULY COMING TO AN END****

I don't know how much time we have left but I want to let you guys all know if it does end tomorrow thanks for letting me be a part of the family and those of you that were neighbors like Bootsie and the Brothers dar it was a pleasure being able to consider you guys friends.

[old_man_killer]

Dim, the world is not coming to an end, not yet any way. It is just something the rest of us older guys know, that all things must change. Without change life would get boring and stale. Change is inevitable. And not all change is bad either.

[Twelve]

Dim, lil brah...

Don't worry. I just went through a little fun. I've been changing formations twice in a row now and I've just won 2 straight.

However, I'm sorry for the other things that have happened around you.

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[Hatchet Warrior]

Dim, I am sorry about that stuff that has happened while you have been gone. But you still got the rest of your friends on the servers.

[T3km4n]

12, check out Banners Banners Banners.

[WlfBane]

God your banner freaks me out wack :/

[Cavour]

Holy shit, Im with you...

[T3km4n]

Cavour's new one reminds me of Batman's.

[Hugh Junit]

Well, Cav's, Bane's and T3's banners are all new to me and, I must say, all very cool. 12's is extremely cool, also ( his last one nearly gave me a seizure). However, I gotta say that WaCk wins the best new banner award. Damn, that thing is a trip!
Even if I wanted a new banner, I wouldn't have the heart to put Dhalsim out to pasture. I love that fire-breathing s.o.b.:cool:

[Cavour]

Agreed... Wacks new banner is friggin nuts...
And Hugh, you could always get a new banner, but include good ol' Dhalsim 'in' it, no? :)
Id offer to make you one since Ive been doing almost nothing 'but' messing around with my new *drum roll* Photoshop!!!!, but me making one will more often then not result in a poorly made, ugly ass banner... but the offers on the table to anyone! ;)

[Hugh Junit]

I appreciate that, Cav. I'm still pretty happy with my old one but, if I ever feel like a new face, I might take you up on that.:cool:

[Twelve]

Alright, I've decided that my pissed off sermon in another thread will be our official mission statement. Check out the very first post in this thread for more details. Anyone who gives us crap again, I refer to THAT!!!

Ok, TK3...I'll check out the banners section. I never look at that thread, but why not?

As for Wack's banner and avatar...it's really off the chain. It really is.


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[WaCk-HeAd]

Thanks for the kinds words.. i'll direct them to the creator..

Someone who graduated from designing school, ( don't know exactly what he did) but he created this in about 8 minutes

Edit: Nice statement big dog! Very nice

[Hatchet Warrior]

Dude, that is a crazy avatar and banner. Good work to who ever made it.

[WlfBane]

Hey Twelve; want to tell them what happened earlier today?

:rolleyes:

[WaCk-HeAd]

Ooooooooohhhhhhh

I want to hear this..

I sense another Netjak drama coming!

[Hugh Junit]

Good stuff, Twelve. I couldn't agree more.:cool:

[MANSLAUGHTER1]

Ya wack nice cool new banner u got there and i notice twelve u got a new one too.

[dim]

I like my banner and like Hugh don't plan on changing it either.
It is a Du original and I am leaving my siggy the same to as a tribute to the DUCK.

[MANSLAUGHTER1]

Ya your banner is fine dim and i hope to get one by juggernaut and thx again jugg for making one for me.

[dim]

Originally posted by MANSLAUGHTER1
Ya your banner is fine dim and i hope to get one by juggernaut and thx again jugg for making one for me.

HA HA My banner is the shizzle bo fizzle sir

[Hatchet Warrior]

Dim your banner is cool, I still need to get one for myself. Maybe I will make my own and go past what wack did.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by WlfBane
Hey Twelve; want to tell them what happened earlier today?

:rolleyes:

Well, since you brought it up...

We played, and once again, you only beat me because you took advantage of an OBVIOUS misclick. That, added to the fact that you got all of the blocks and you don't suck led to a game that went over 1 hour.

Did I miss anything?


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[WaCk-HeAd]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

THE HUMANITY!!!

THE DISGRACE!!!

Hehehe everyone can beat everyone sometimes..

My last few matches defintely prooved that

[WlfBane]

haha nah you are right Twelve although I dind't get all the blocks. Your knights and pyros blocked sometimes.

Was a good game but still 2-0 to me ^_^

[WaCk-HeAd]

Here we go again...............

even though i feel a bit annoyed again, it's a bit like the good old days :) i like being annoyed by you 2 :P

[Twelve]

Honestly, I'll always be the underdog in a grey game against you. You've got about as many hours logged in as a grey as I've for a gold, and vise-versa. Like so many other things, we're opposite in that regard.


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[Twelve]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd
Here we go again...............

even though i feel a bit annoyed again, it's a bit like the good old days :) i like being annoyed by you 2 :P

True...Wack and Wolf are my two greatest trash-talking antagonists. Luckily, I always turn out looking good in the end. I may not always WIN, but I ALWAYS turn out looking good!!


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[Twelve]

Triple Post!

W00T!

I've got the phattest rating in GL:


1212!!!



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[WaCk-HeAd]

Lol..
you always looking good in the end because i feel sorry for you

mwahaha

Kidding bro..

we know you the man ;)

[psychofireman]

1212 awsome 12

[Twelve]

What's this?

Every netjak needs to read this:

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10968

I think he'll eventually win, but let's make sure he takes TEN TIMES THE LOSSES!!

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[Doctor Love]

Originally posted by Twelve
What's this?

Every netjak needs to read this:

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10968

I think he'll eventually win, but let's make sure he takes TEN TIMES THE LOSSES!!

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Yeah, let's go kick his ass!

[Twelve]

Son, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

We just gettin' started. :)

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[Doctor Love]

Best of luck to you and your posse, then.

[Twelve]

Alright guys, I schooled him already. Look in the thread I linked above.

I've done my job. Take it away, boys!!!


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[WaCk-HeAd]

Sir vival doesn't know us very good eh?

Beautiful.. he's getting served badly.. lets create a little grey..

Vival..


Bring

It


Edit: Where you at? lets setup a time.. I'll happily take your challenge.. i'd like to see my picture in your album..

[Jonspen]

He's mine...........

[Jonspen]

*This is a reply for the yo mommas jokes at the start of this thread....*

Prepare to get your arses all kicked:

Yo mommas so fat:

Yo mama so fat her nickname is "Lardo"

Yo mama so fat she eats Wheat Thicks.

Yo mama so fat were in her right now

Yo mama so fat people jog around her for exercise

Yo mama so fat she went to the movies and sat next to everyone

Yo mama so fat she has been declared a natural habitat for Condors

Yo mamma so fat you haveta roll over twice to get off her...

Yo mama so fat she was floating in the ocean and spain claimed her for then new world

Yo mama so fat she lay on the beach and people run around yelling Free Willy

Yo mama so fat when you get on top of her your ears pop!

Yo mama so fat when she has wants someone to shake her hand, she has to give directions!

Yo mama so fat she goes to a resturant, looks at the menu and says "okay!"

Yo mama so fat when she wears a yellow raincoat, people said "Taxi!"

Yo mama so fat she had to go to Sea World to get baptized

Yo mama so fat she got to iron her pants on the driveway

Yo mama so fat she put on her lipstick with a paint-roller

Yo mama so fat she got to pull down her pants to get into her pockets

Yo mama so fat when she tripped over on 4th Ave, she landed on 12th

Yo mama so fat when she bungee jumps, she brings down the bridge too

Yo mama so fat the highway patrol made her wear "Caution! Wide Turn"

Yo mama so fat when she sits around the house, she SITS AROUND THE HOUSE!

Yo mama so fat when she steps on a scale, it read "one at a time, please"

Yo mama so fat when she sits on my face I can't hear the stereo.

Yo mama so fat she fell in love and broke it.

Yo mama so fat when she gets on the scale it says to be continued.

Yo mama so fat when she gets on the scale it says we don't do livestock.

Yo mama so fat her neck looks like a pair of hot dogs!

Yo mama so fat she's got her own area code!

Yo mama so fat she looks like she's smuggling a Volkswagon!

Yo mama so fat God couldn't light Earth until she moved!

Yo mama so fat NASA has to orbit a satellite around her!

Yo mama so fat whenever she goes to the beach the tide comes in!

Yo mama so fat when she plays hopscotch, she goes New York, L.A., Chicago...

Yo mama so fat she's got Amtrak written on her leg.

Yo mama so fat even Bill Gates couldn't pay for her liposuction!

Yo mama so fat her legs is like spoiled milk - white & chunky!

Yo mama so fat I had to take a train and two buses just to get on the her good side!

Yo mama so fat she wakes up in sections!

Yo mama so fat when she goes to an amusement park, people try to ride HER!

Yo mama so fat she sat on a quarter and a booger shot out of george washington's nose.

Yo mama so fat she rolled over 4 quarters and it made a dollar!

Yo mama so fat when she lies on the beach no one else gets sun!

Yo mama so fat when she bunje jumps she goes straight to hell!

Yo mama so fat when she jumps up in the air she gets stuck!!!

Yo mama so fat she's got more Chins than a Hong Kong phone book!

Yo mama so fat that her senior pictures had to be arial views!

Yo mama so fat she's on both sides of the family!

Yo mama so fat everytime she walks in high heels, she strikes oil!

Yo mama so fat she fell and made the Grand Canyon!

Yo mama so fat she sat on the beach and Greenpeace threw her in!

Yo mama so fat even her clothes have stretch marks!

Yo mama so fat she has a wooden leg with a kickstand!

Yo mama so fat she has to use a VCR as a beeper!

Yo mama so fat she broke her leg, and gravy poured out!

Yo mama so fat when she rides in a hot air balloon, it looks like she's wearin tights!

Yo mama so fat she got hit by a parked car!

Yo mama so fat they have to grease the bath tub to get her out!

Yo mama so fat she has a run in her blue-jeans!

Yo mama so fat when she gets on the scale it says to be continued.

Yo mama so fat when she wears a yellow raincoat people say "Taxi!"

Yo mama so fat she got to iron her pants on the driveway!

Yo mama so fat she put on her lipstick with a paint-roller!

Yo mama so fat when she tripped over on 4th Ave she landed on 12th

Yo mama so fat when she bungee jumps she pulls down the bridge too

Yo mama so fat she steps on a scale & it goes one at a time please

Yo mama so fat she fell in love and broke it!

Yo mama so fat she jumped up in the air and got stuck!

Yo mama so fat she fell in love and broke it.

Yo mama so fat when she sits on my face I can't hear the stereo.

Yo mama so fat they use the elastic in her underwear for bungee jumping

Yo mama so fat when they used her underwear elastic for bungee jumping, they hit the ground.

Yo mama so fat when she back up she beep.

Yo mama so fat she jumped up in the air and got stuck.

Yo mama so fat she has to buy two airline tickets.

Yo mama so fat when she fell over she rocked herself asleep trying to get up again.

Yo mama so fat she influences the tides.

Yo mama so fat that when I tried to drive around her I ran out of gas.

Yo mama so fat she broke her leg and gravy fell out.

Yo mama so fat the animals at the zoo feed her.

Yo mama so fat she was baptized at Marine World.

Yo mama so fat she's on both sides of the family!

Yo mama so fat when she dances at a concert the whole band skips.

Yo mama so fat the Aids quilt wouldn't cover her

Yo mama so fat she stands in two time zones.

Yo mama so fat I tried to drive around her and I ran out of gas.

Yo mama so fat she left the house in high heels and when she came back she had on flip flops.

Yo mama so fat shes on both sides of the family

Yo mama so fat you have to grease the door frame and hold a twinkie on the other side just to get her through

Yo mama so fat when she goes to an all you can eat buffet, they have to install speed bumps.

Yo mama so fat that she cant tie her own shoes.

Yo mama so fat sets off car alarms when she runs.

Yo mama so fat she cant reach her back pocket.

Yo mama so fat when she wears one of those X jackets, helicopters try to land on her back!

Yo mama so fat her college graduation picture was an airial.

Yo mama so fat she lays on the beach and greenpeace tried to push her back in the water

Yo mama so fat she broke her leg and gravy poured out

Yo mama so fat she uses redwoods to pick her teeth

Yo mama so fat the only pictures you have of her are satellite pictures

Yo mama so fat she jumped in the air and got stuck.

Yo mama so fat she put on some BVD's and by the time they reached her waist they spelled out boulevard.

Yo mama so fat she sat on a dollar and squeezed a booger out George Washington's nose.

Yo mama so fat she stepped on a rainbow and made Skittles.

Yo mama so fat she uses a mattress for a tampon.

Yo mama so fat that when she sits on the beach, Greenpeace shows up and tries to tow her back into the ocean.....

Yo mama so fat that she would have been in E.T., but when she rode the bike across the moon, she caused an eclipse.

Yo mama so fat she hoola-hooped the super bowl.

Yo mama so fat she was baptised in the ocean.

Yo mama so fat she has to iron her clothes in the driveway.

Yo mama so fat they tie a rope around her shoulders and drag her through a tunnel when they want to clean it.

Yo mama so fat when she got hit by a bus, she said, "Who threw that rock?"

Yo mama so fat when she stands in a left-turn lane it gives her the green arrow!

Yo mama so fat that when whe was born, she gave the hospital stretch marks.

Yo mama so fat we went to the drive-in and didn't have to pay because we dressed her as a Chevrolet

[dim]

Originally posted by Twelve
I may not always WIN, but I ALWAYS turn out looking good!!
12

Thats just becuase you such a handsome bugger sir. he he he

[Twelve]

Well, Jonspen, the thing about yo momma jokes is they tend to lose their humor in overdose, but good job! I'll refer to these if I ever get into a battle again!!!

12

[WaCk-HeAd]

*likes twelve's old banner better*

[old_man_killer]

*Agrees with Wack!* new banner is too laid back. definately not edgy enough for the leader of Netjak.

[psychofireman]

i agree i had other thoughts but don't want to offend whoever made it

[Bottle]

I preferred the other one too, no offense t3k.

[WlfBane]

I'm undecided on a new banner.

Either this one:
http://img48.exs.cx/img48/1341/Wolfsbane2.jpg

Or this:
http://img45.exs.cx/img45/9929/Wolfsbane3.jpg

Or even something new, random or different O.o'

[MANSLAUGHTER1]

Wolfbane this is netjak thread not witch banner i could chose thread go somewere else and say that. j/k

[WlfBane]

The reason I ask here is because of how many banners I did for people in Netjak and therefore was wondering upon their opinion. I can't quite make my mind up as usual :)

[MANSLAUGHTER1]

Oh now i get its cool, its cool.

[WaCk-HeAd]

The first one wolf, defintely the first one..

[roody poo]

As much as I like the first one....I really think I would have to go with the second one.

[Hatchet Warrior]

Go with the first one.

[Hugh Junit]

Both are good, Wolfbane. I can't decide between the two.
As for our fearless leader, the new banner is definately direct and to the point. Nothing wrong with a straight forward banner, But, DUDE, the old served. It made me feel like I was on mushrooms.:cool:

[MANSLAUGHTER1]

I like the first one b/c the secound one looks like its blowing a kiss.

[WlfBane]

http://img56.exs.cx/img56/7721/wolfhandout.jpg

Does it look like its blowing a kiss now? ;)

I couldn't get all of that wolf on without making the banner bigger, and i'm a little against making it bigger than it already is.

Props to the artist though. I can't decide between either >_<

Shouldn't of made two -.-'

[MANSLAUGHTER1]

Oh nvm it looked like it was now i cant decide. Thanks a lot lol.

[old_man_killer]

Wlfbane, I like the first one also. Though I am sure you will come up with a true killer banner before you are done.

[Doctor Love]

Another one bites the dust.

[Bottle]

All those who care, raise your hands...

*looks around, noticing definite lack of hands in the air*

[Hatchet Warrior]

Doc, you want to try me grey on grey. See if you can get me down.

[Doctor Love]

Originally posted by Hatchet Warrior
Doc, you want to try me grey on grey. See if you can get me down.
You do realize I've already beaten you? Go to General Discussions, click on Doctor Love's Photo Album. That's right, that was me.

[Jeffery]

I'll post this here as well:



.~^~.
| o0o |
i 0#0 i
\ V /
__\ /__
|__ * __|
; | | ;
* | | *
_/ \_
-/ \ * / \-
/ \
_/ \
___/ \___
/ Frylock \
/ \
| 3-24-04 to |
| |
| Frylock is a pansy!! |
| nah.. fryster had |
| some serious class |
| -Wack-Head |
*| | *
___/\\_//(\/(/\)/\//\/\//\/\/\/\/\/\/\_)______

[old_man_killer]

Wlfbane, have you checked your PM?

[MANSLAUGHTER1]

Are we going to have a funaral for fry. And doc play hatchet.

[Doctor Love]

I've already beaten Hatchet.

[Hugh Junit]

Originally posted by Doctor Love
I've already beaten Hatchet.

Neat. Do you want a cookie or something?

[MANSLAUGHTER1]

I will have a cookie.

[WlfBane]

COOKIE MONSTER!

http://img20.exs.cx/img20/563/cookie3.jpg

[Bottle]

Leave the poor kid alone, Hugh. He's got attention deficit disorder, it's obvious.

[MANSLAUGHTER1]

Damn, y cant i get a cookie?

[Hatchet Warrior]

Dude, that is weak. *gives manslaughter a big cookie* Also, wheres my cookie?

[Twelve]

HAHA...I was gone over the weekend and you guys have written some funny posts.

Yeah, I'm back to this banner...I wasn't planning on wearing the other one long. I just wanted to wear it to honor the guy who put time and effort into making it for me. I'll wear ANYTHING if someone makes a banner for me, just to honor them.

...but I HAD to go back to this phat one right here. This is my new joint.

As for the Wolf banners..I actually liked the second one better because that wolf looks TIGHT. I mean, that boy looks crazy-deadly. He's gotta look tough and mean!!

As for Dr. Love's "attention disorder", as Bottle so aptly put, I served him once and that's the only game he's getting out of me. Shoot, I got things to do!!!

12

[WlfBane]

Shouldn't it be honoUr Twelve? I know you do have a big degree thing in English spelling and grammar and stuff. You're slacking now :P

[Twelve]

Originally posted by WlfBane
Shouldn't it be honoUr Twelve? I know you do have a big degree thing in English spelling and grammar and stuff. You're slacking now :P

Umm..Wolf? My man...

You Welsh always add more vowels into words then are actually needed. You write armour instead of armor, honour instead of honor, and you say "I'm going to post" things instead "I'm going to mail" things. When you say "controversy", you put the accent in the wrong place. When you say "tortoise", it sounds like you're saying "toy-toys".

I'm an English major, and that's why I know very much about the differences between English and yours. No slacking here, mate. :)

12

[WlfBane]

Britain follows the whole U thing

In fact so do alot of Europeans who speak English.

Missing the U is an AMERICAN thing

Welsh actually adds LESS vowels. Where did you get your English major from again? If it was from Britain you have been taught WRONG.

Always the U

(Silly Americans can't even say Carribbean and Mederterainian properly - stuff me on how you hell you spell that one, first time i've used it ever)

[Twelve]

Here's where I went to school:

http://www.cornell.edu/

Boom, baby.

It's currently ranked the 12th best school in the WORLD:

http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2004/top500list.htm

So I think I know my English. :) You guys just talk differently then us, that's all. Still funny how you say "tortoise", though.


12

[WlfBane]

How can you question how the ENGLISH speak their OWN language? :P

If they have decided it should be like that surely it should? After all they ARE the people who speak it and everything more than anyone else, but hey, who am I to think the language of a native country should be changed by foreigners? :P

I always liked the fact that its so funny to watch the confusion upon someones face when I tell them that the Welsh word for Bus is Bws and then hear them try to say it ^_^

[Twelve]

Oh, you think the English invented English?

What you call English was given to you by people who used to live in what we now know as FRANCE. Also, what you know as English also finds its basic roots in GERMAN.

Compared to how untrue the English are to their language ancestors, we American are doing ok.

And don't you know that the best English in the world is spoken in SWEDEN?


12

[WlfBane]

Seems bloody everyone came from France some time or other.

I can't see how you can rate people on how they speak English best when it is the English who have spoken it for longer... (and them and their language named the same)

Just like to add something heh ^_^

The Celts (Mixture of Scotish and Welsh blood - now seperated) were the original people of the British Isles from which their are links from Welsh to the French, although historians aren't actually sure who took what from who (Saw it on a history program :)) but also because of the geographical position of Wales and France, they think there used to be a strong link between the two many many years back, before the whole Saxon/Viking/French (Forgot what they were called then) came along.

There is some history about language and culture for you ;)

[Twelve]

All I know is this:

When I went to Manchester, I was told over and over again that the English have forgotten how to speak their own language, and that the Swedes and the New Englander's are the people who speak it properly now.

*wink*

12

[old_man_killer]

"The English and Americans are a people separated by a common language" Gen. George Patton

[Twelve]

DOCE, Prophet:

If any of you see JEDIMATRIX,

INVITE HIM IN THE CLAN.

Dude is awesome and creative.


12

[Doctor Love]

Originally posted by Twelve
Umm..Wolf? My man...

You Welsh always add more vowels into words then are actually needed. You write armour instead of armor, honour instead of honor, and you say "I'm going to post" things instead "I'm going to mail" things. When you say "controversy", you put the accent in the wrong place. When you say "tortoise", it sounds like you're saying "toy-toys".

I'm an English major, and that's why I know very much about the differences between English and yours. No slacking here, mate. :)

12 Good enough for me, because not a single one of your other players has managed to ever come close.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Doctor Love
Good enough for me, because not a single one of your other players has managed to ever come close.

What did...what did that have to do with the quote you quoted? That was weird.


12

[WaCk-HeAd]

Originally posted by Twelve
I'll wear ANYTHING if someone makes a banner for me, just to honor them.



http://img8.exs.cx/img8/1554/Twelvesbanner.jpg



There ya go homie

specially made for you

now wear it!

[Twelve]

HA!

Ain't no way I'm wearing that. I figured someone would take advantage of my words...just waiting to figure out WHO.

Good job, though! Good to see that you quit playing TAO to make wack banners!!!


12

[WaCk-HeAd]

Heheh i'm not gone yet, i've got till the end of the week, next week this college boy is gonna study!

Dissapointed though that you're not wearing it
obviously you're not a man of your word!

[Twelve]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd

obviously you're not a man of your word!

Ouch...


12

[MANSLAUGHTER1]

Im starting school soon and im still not done with the book i have to read im up to chp. 5 good thing some1 told me wut happens in the book.

[WaCk-HeAd]

Originally posted by Twelve
Ouch...


12

get over yourself

[MANSLAUGHTER1]

Nice banner twelve i think it really works for ya. (j/k no offense)

[Twelve]

Chump. Now that I've kept my word, let me say something else.

I will ONLY wear a banner someone makes for me if I LIKE IT.

Fine.


12

[MANSLAUGHTER1]

Ya i know twelve and i didnt know wack was ur father.

[WlfBane]

I just took a screenie of that. No hiding Twelve ;)

[Twelve]

900th post belongs to me.

HOOZAH.

Yeah well, someone took advantage of my honor. I'll wear this joint for a day, so everyone can laugh at me. But Wack...you've just put yourself AGAIN on my personal hitlist.


12

[WaCk-HeAd]

and i'll beat you again

no biggie

[Twelve]

That's why you look like a girl.


OOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

12

[Jonspen]

Lemme guess i am on it too? :D

[WaCk-HeAd]

Hahaha..
Ok ok.. like i said..

I got served by your wife..

I'm still your father though..

[WlfBane]

Twelve is getting served

[Twelve]

Originally posted by WlfBane
Twelve is getting served

What? I'M getting served? That's why you're currently wasting your time playing FFX, boy!!!


12

[WlfBane]

I am playing FFX for some reason i don't know why lol.

I havnt played it before, trying it out, I have hated every FF past 7 because of their suckiness.

Expecting this one to be the same way.

Also while im playing this i'm also qualifiying for a tournament on another game at exactly the same time $

pwnage

[Twelve]

I HATE BAD LUCK!!!

ARGH.

No blocking.

Wrong formations against the wrong people.

And it seems like there's a rule against me; if I have a mage on the frontline, I WILL go second.



12

[MANSLAUGHTER1]

Ya i know that twelve i hate that to.

[Hugh Junit]

Twelve, the new banner is the SHIZZ! I love that thing.:cool:

[emerald slasher]

if the momma war is still going... ur mommas so fat she walked by a window and they thought it was an eclipse

[emerald slasher]

shit double post umm well um hi netjak

[dim]

Originally posted by emerald slasher
shit double post umm well um hi netjak

he he he
he is not even in the family but he fits so well LOL

[T3km4n]

Originally posted by Hugh Junit
Twelve, the new banner is the SHIZZ! I love that thing.:cool: You just watch out Hugh, I am currently learning the techniques of Macromedia Flash, and soon, that shall be completely obsolete.

[MANSLAUGHTER1]

Damn now every1 has a cool banner but me soon i will figure out how to make a damn banner.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by emerald slasher
if the momma war is still going... ur mommas so fat she walked by a window and they thought it was an eclipse

That was ok...but it was more of warning shot. Didn't really hit me.

As for the banner...give props to Medemia, he made it. ANd TK3, I look foward to seeing you try to make this one obsolete...lol.

FEELING READY TO KICK SOME TAO BOOTY TODAY!!!


12

[WlfBane]

You mean feeling ready to GET your booty kicked by TAO Randomness

[Jonspen]

My banner rox your sox ;)

[Twelve]

Originally posted by WlfBane
You mean feeling ready to GET your booty kicked by TAO Randomness

I'll kick your behind whenever you want, Wolf. And I noticed that you're talking smack about beating my gold with your grey. Never really happened. But if you want to try again, you're welcome to it.


12

[WaCk-HeAd]

Why can't we all just get along?

Because i own you all?

Yeah that's about it

[Twelve]

All mouth, little substance.


12

[Jonspen]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd
Why can't we all just get along?

Because i own you all?

Yeah that's about it

Own us all lol, what was that whack? I beat you? I know.....:D

[WlfBane]

Its Jonspen...

I still hate you for what you did...

[Twelve]

*takes a step back*

Move aside gentlemen...I think these two boys have something to resolve!!


12

[WlfBane]

Resolve - yes.

The only solution being the ass whooping of a lame newb...

[Jonspen]

??

[Jonspen]

I've just been informed of who ya are, sorry for what happend, and yes i am still ashamed of what i did.

[WlfBane]

Bloody well should be ashamed. I go around kicking your butt and then you do THAT! Appalling behaviour, especially for a Netjak..

[WaCk-HeAd]

Jonspen beat me? ooohhh pleeasse...

I can kick your ass with 5 units.. same goes for twelve

little substance HA i whoop your ass on a daily basis

and what did jonspen do?

[Jonspen]

Umm to be precise i wasn't netjak AT THE TIME. And what do you meen go around kicking my but and u do that? If ur talking about me saying i could be whack i was joking, lol whack is a very skilled player, you too DKR.
And yes i also was a n00b at the time, netjak has changed me, and my time in legends ahs tought me valuable lessons. So what ever you plan to do to resovle this i hope it doesn't end up in you still hating me, i don't really want to play you for many reasons, stat is not one of them. But if it does end up in a fight so be it, best MAN wins aye?

[WlfBane]

Wow... there was me being niceish because of Twelve trying to solve things and you go for another low blow.

How about I tell them that when I frst joined Netjak (First day, I was crap anyway back then), I managed to reduce Jonspen to 2 units with 8 or 9 of mine left (cant remember which it was exactly). I had to go to work soon, the game should of lasted 10 minutes, because of Jon and him 'forgetting' the game and going to read the forum every 2 minutes it meant it turned into a 25 minute game from which I then had to leave. Even at the end Jon here was stalling AND laughing at the fact he 'rocks' so much but didnt realise I had to go.

I admit I told him, maybe not the best idea, that I had limited time, but to extend a game by 15 minutes just to win another 5 points on your rating.

Nicely done Jon

[Jonspen]

Telling the story has done nothing for you, seeing as i was a n00b back then. I have apologised several times for my act yet i still don't know what you want from me?

[Twelve]

Yo Wolf, back down man. Can't you see an apology when you get one?

Dang.


12

[WlfBane]

Yeah I saw the apology and was willing to accept it until the low blow.

Originally posted by Jonspen
But if it does end up in a fight so be it, best MAN wins aye?

I prefer to forget certain things including that, but seems you can't just let things fully die after the whole 'i'm sorry' without a little revenge.

[Dark*Demon]

well thats nice

[WaCk-HeAd]

*sigh*

both of you, get over it..

even though i have to rule in favour of wolf here..

but both of you.. just walk away..

[Dark*Demon]

*walks away*

[Jonspen]

Follows dark*demon, sorry DKR i was intending anything.

[Hugh Junit]

Damn, it's like the O.K. corral in here! Let's all have a Coke and a smile.
* slowly reaches for b.......Coke * :)

[Twelve]

Oh smack, I didn't even recognize that, Wolf, until you brought it up.

Oh well. Holding grudges is a waste of energy. I'm moving on.

Latest news:

Rantzu is alive and well. He just has much schoolwork. Anyhow, he managed to increase his rating over at Banff by a WHOLE TWO POINTS!!


12

[WaCk-HeAd]

owh you kidding me?
2 WHOLE points?

Oh my fucking god, there's no stopping him!

[WlfBane]

Hmm... was just wondering about this formation.

Any... opinions? It needs tweaking but well I decided to try and use a Lightning ward in a back left defence, I'm a little unsure but its an experiment as such.

http://img89.exs.cx/img89/1143/experiment.jpg

[WlfBane]

Scrap that, or whatever.

Just lost another game to more blocks. Thats the reason why I keep giving up on this game :/ I used to like a sense of inprobability, but when it starts to become extremly probable that everything is going to block and i'm not going to it loses its interest as a tactics game and more a luck game.

Well this has been said many times before but geeze... still think LondonJack had the best idea ever for removing blocks and making blocking armour.

[WaCk-HeAd]

Originally posted by WlfBane
still think LondonJack had the best idea ever for removing blocks and making blocking armour.

True.

[Bottle]

Luck is a necessary part of the game which sets it aside from chess. We may moan a lot about it, but could you imagine what it'd be like if there was no chance at all? How could you hide a knight from a death shot?

[WlfBane]

If Londonjack's idea was implemented there would be no need for luck and your knights would be safer in retrospect (sp?)

It unbalances the game as far as I can see; lowers the tactics side of things for what you people call lameness.

The reason people hated bombs was because they required less amount of luck and therefore the turtle players who as far as I can see rely more on luck than others, had their chances of winning through the 'lucky factor' dropped.

[dim]

Originally posted by Hugh Junit
* slowly reaches for b.......Coke * :)

See see see even more proff I definately know now that the world is coming to an end.

OHHHHH where is my mentor when I need him?

[Hugh Junit]

Originally posted by dim
See see see even more proff I definately know now that the world is coming to an end.

OHHHHH where is my mentor when I need him?

Relax , dim. I was just trying to calm everyone down. You know I never drink Coke. That sh*t will kill ya.

* slowly reaches for beer *

[old_man_killer]

I agree with wolfbane, as far as the desire to eliminate the randomness of the blocking. AKA good blocks/ no blocks etc. I have to admit that the luck factor has help me win on more than one occasion and lose on others. By adopting LondonJack's blocking plan it would standardize the play to the point where tactical thinking would be required. As in chess, where where there is no blocking at all, all games would be consistant. I personally would like that.

[Twelve]

Regarding that formation you posted, Wolf, I was about to say that I've never seen any good LW if it wasn't put up front protecting the cleric. If it's in any other place, it seems like a waste of space IMO.

As for the blocking thing...nah. If you make damage reduction, then you'll have to seriously reduce the range and power of the already powerful scouts. They can just fire away at anything at anytime. It'll be a whole game full of slow mud golems. :)

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[Leigh]

Originally posted by Hugh Junit
Relax , dim. I was just trying to calm everyone down. You know I never drink Coke. That sh*t will kill ya.

* slowly reaches for beer *

Yup.... This is EXACTLY why I voted for you as one of my favorite posters!!! :D

[Twelve]

*claps hands upon seeing Leigh's first post in this thread*


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[Leigh]

I know, I know....... It's about time aye? ;)

[Twelve]

No need to be shy. I notice that you haven't posted the boys in our "secret" forums either. We definitely need a lady's touch there. Too much testosterone up in that piece.


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[Leigh]

Originally posted by Twelve
Too much testosterone up in that piece.
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Could this perhaps be the very reason I've been afraid to walk in that "secret room" ;)

[Twelve]

So shy.

No worries, you should know by now that we netjakkers treat our women with utmost respect. No need to be afraid. Trust me, you'll end up being worshipped.

And if NOT...I'm the admin there. *evil sneer*

Lol...but one thing I really want is to see if you'll actually play me in a game!

*eyes widen*

Wait! Don't run away again! Only my enemies should highly fear me!!


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[psychofireman]

fear you...why your nothing more than a cuddly ol sheep

[Twelve]

Psycho...DUDE! You're going to go and destroy my reputation!!!

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[WlfBane]

I used to have a defensive almsot turtle like grey formation with the L-ward still in the middle. It defended the sides well and provided good flank protection while I swarmed around the other side of it.

[Bottle]

Originally posted by Twelve
As for the blocking thing...nah. If you make damage reduction, then you'll have to seriously reduce the range and power of the already powerful scouts. They can just fire away at anything at anytime. It'll be a whole game full of slow mud golems. :)

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No blocking would certainly make my furgon turtle stronger... put up the walls, and then even knights will have trouble if they get close. If you reduced a scout's range to compensate, that would destroy the need for LOS knowledge, because even a 5 space range would make many trickshots impossible. Would such a radical change to the game be a good idea? Has anyone actually imagined this game with no blocking? I have, and I don't like it one bit.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Bottle
No blocking would certainly make my furgon turtle stronger...

And Lord KNOWS we don't want that to happen! HECK no!! Keep the blocking!!


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[Hugh Junit]

Originally posted by Leigh
Yup.... This is EXACTLY why I voted for you as one of my favorite posters!!! :D

Thanks, Leigh. :)

Oh, and Twelve, the new avatar is off the friggin' HINGES!
Very cool.

[dim]

It slices
It dices
It chops through the enemy
Like a hot knife through butter
Now you to can experience the power
For the one time only low low
not $29.95
not $19.95
OH NO not even $14.95
but for 12
yes that right people just look for you local neighborhood 12
and see his avatar slice and dice and hack its way through your setup.

:D

[Leigh]

Originally posted by Twelve
So shy.
No worries, you should know by now that we netjakkers treat our women with utmost respect. No need to be afraid. Trust me, you'll end up being worshipped.
And if NOT...I'm the admin there. *evil sneer*
Lol...but one thing I really want is to see if you'll actually play me in a game!
*eyes widen*
Wait! Don't run away again! Only my enemies should highly fear me!!
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Damn 12.... You are REALLY smooth..... :)

And HELL YES (!) .... I'll run and run and run.... I'm SCARED TO DEATH OF YOU... Course this only applies to "playing". ;)

[bludhoundz]

Originally posted by Twelve
True. Unlike SOME people...he's good and still a nice guy at the same time. Much respect for him.


12
Word.
*gets praised for all the lovely compliments for about 2 pages*

I know this is a late response, but its fun to bask in glory. Twelve - if you ever want to stop my winning streak on you (currently 4 wins in a row) I'm always ready. Unlike you, I don't have 12 formations, I only have about 5 and I don't change quite too often ;) .

About the formations thing - The Turtle isn't obsolete, I use it all the time, and I continue to use rush as well.
I'd love to take on your crab Twelve, it sounds like a blast to play with and against.:D
See you all on the game guys.

[Twelve]

Hugh---Yo...TK3 hooked me up with the phat avatar. I don't know what to say...people just keep making me phat avatars and sigs and I'll just keep wearing 'em! The only problem is that I can only wear one at a time!!!

Dim---Funny stuff, bro. That avatar comes from the Street Fighter character who is ALSO named "Twelve." I just want to clarify right now that I had the name "Twelve" first...I was calling myself "Twelve" ever since I was 16 and that's at least five years before that Street Fighter "Twelve" came out. But yeah, he slices and dices.

Leigh---I'm not always smooth. If you want to see me angry, check out the very first post of this thread. There, I'm a bit rough. :)

Bludhoundz---Thanx for telling the whole world about you beating me 4 times straight so far. :) Trust me, folks, the dude just has the best luck against me and I'm quite sick of it. I'll play you again soon, don't worry...and you never know which of my 12 Formations I'll throw at you.


Last but not least, I want to post a pic here of myself. I'm pretty much naked in it, so I didn't think it was appropriate for the other pic thread. Enjoy!! :


http://img33.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img33&image=12--SF.jpg


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[Leigh]

WOW (!) Twelve I always thought you were hot... but this is sending me over the edge.....

Uhhhh.... hmmmmm..... well...... WILL YOU MARRY ME? :D

[Twelve]

Hold on....

lol....

I'm laughing too hard right now...


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[WlfBane]

I'm like 3-0 against Blud ^_^

[bludhoundz]

Wlf - Just like the way I get luck vs. Twelve, you get luck on me too. Besides - we've never played rush on rush, always rush on turtle, or my rush vs. your anti rush, and I'll admit you're good, but lets have a game on even ground for once.

PS. Sorry Twelve, Didn't mean to spill it all over, but it will be fun to play again - especially because I won't know whats coming up (You won't either, I've been perfecting a form just to surprise people with).

[Jeffery]

Wow! 12, what big balls you... don't.. have.

[Twelve]

*chuckle*

Now I didn't expect that comment.

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[WaCk-HeAd]

Well lets make a little goodbye in here as well...

Later guys.. it has been fun, and I wish you all the best of luck..

[Leigh]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd
Well lets make a little goodbye in here as well...

Later guys.. it has been fun, and I wish you all the best of luck..

Are you leaving? :( :( :(

[Twelve]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd
Well lets make a little goodbye in here as well...

Later guys.. it has been fun, and I wish you all the best of luck..

Yeah...he's currently trying his best to focus his mind on schoolwork. It's a respectable attempt.

Once he gets into the swing of things, and realizes that school doesn't require as much help and time as he thought, he'll give into his deepest desire to play TAO with us again.

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[Hugh Junit]

Originally posted by Twelve
Once he gets into the swing of things, and realizes that school doesn't require as much help and time as he thought, he'll give into his deepest desire to play TAO with us again.

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No question.
WaCk will be BaCk, someday.:cool:

[Jonspen]

Bye wack, uve been cool......

[Twelve]

OMK and Prophet--tearing up Great Lakes.

Hugh and Fry--liquidizing Banff.

66 and Roody--Owning Army.

Twelve--Looking over the shoulders of them all.

Bring

the

Ruckus.


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[Bottle]

Originally posted by Twelve
Hugh and Fry--liquidizing Banff.

Bring

the

Ruckus.


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Oh really? Bring them on. I need some more points :)

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Bottle
Oh really? Bring them on. I need some more points :)

*rolls eyes*

Don't play yourself. If only you were so brave in the lobby, when you see me sitting there for a game and you're always busy doing something. Bring it, Bottle!

Meanwhile, looking at how the leader's have divided themselves, I've given new titles to all of the servers.

Doce and the Prophet in Great Lakes make up the Holy Sector.

Hugh and Frylock in Banff make up the Personality Sector.

Roody and 66 in Army make up the Bad Boy Sector.

Lol...look at the range! Somehow, we all get along...


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[Bottle]

Originally posted by Twelve
Don't play yourself. If only you were so brave in the lobby, when you see me sitting there for a game and you're always busy doing something. Bring it, Bottle!

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I usually am busy doing something. I'm still at home, so I don't have the time to play a full game in the evenings. When I'm back at uni in a month, things will be different...

[bludhoundz]

I belong to the Random Person Sector
And I also want to gain points, unfortunately, I don't beat Fry often, and Hugh isn't easy to beat either.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by bludhoundz
I belong to the Random Person Sector


??? I don't get that. Explain yourself. :)

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[Bottle]

Isn't it obvious? He's being random. :)

[WlfBane]

I'm in the Uber section.

Fear me...

[Bottle]

Can you honestly believe that I spend most of my time in the Personality section? ;)

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Bottle
Isn't it obvious? He's being random. :)

Oh, is THAT what it is?

Ok...

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[WlfBane]

Yeah...

You smell Twelve :rolleyes:

[dim]

Originally posted by Bottle
Can you honestly believe that I spend most of my time in the Personality section? ;)

LOL well sir after your last few posts I guess they have had to kick you out of the EGO section. I am proud of you sir you have come along way since back in the spring.

BTW 12 sir of course he is busy doing something when you are on """LOL""" he is busy protecting his points :D

GO BOOTSIE GO

[Bottle]

*goes*

[dim]

Originally posted by Bottle
*goes*

Ha Ha Ha You so funny sir

I was trying to do one of those cheers that the girls in the short skirts do during the football games.
You know like Go Team Go or something. Personally my favorite is Bang Bang Choo Choo Train they start swinging their hips and it looks like a Snoop Dog Video YEAH BABY.

[WlfBane]

Eww snoop dog

[Hugh Junit]

Originally posted by Twelve

Doce and the Prophet in Great Lakes make up the Holy Sector.

Hugh and Frylock in Banff make up the Personality Sector.

Roody and 66 in Army make up the Bad Boy Sector.

Lol...look at the range! Somehow, we all get along...

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Nice, Twelve. Pretty much covers all the bases, huh?
Netjak Rules!:cool:

[T3km4n]

You goons better watch out because I am working to get up to 1250...

[Catra]

Ok, I don't know how it's possible, but I just started reading this thread... Page 25 at this point, but it's getting to late to read right now. All I can say... I love you guys!!

Netjak rules!

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Catra
Ok, I don't know how it's possible, but I just started reading this thread... Page 25 at this point, but it's getting to late to read right now. All I can say... I love you guys!!

Netjak rules!

We love you too, sis, and it's about TIME you read this thread. :)

Dim....I know what you mean, lil' brah. Girls can be quite mesmerizing, can't they? At times it's rather unfair...luckily, there is ONE defense...

As for Wolf...when he says that I smell, it means that he's angry with me for some reason. Of course, it'll take me weeks to find out what it is....

...brat.


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[Leigh]

Originally posted by Twelve
Dim....I know what you mean, lil' brah. Girls can be quite mesmerizing, can't they? At times it's rather unfair...luckily, there is ONE defense...
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Do tell 12..... :D

[Twelve]

Hmmm...may be too much of a mature thing to say in public.

So let me give an analogy, and it's what I tell all people Dim's age:

Make sure you're well fed. If you've had enough to eat, even the best-smelling and best-looking foods won't phase you.

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[Leigh]

Originally posted by Twelve
[B]Hmmm...may be too much of a mature thing to say in public.
So let me give an analogy, and it's what I tell all people Dim's age:
Make sure you're well fed. If you've had enough to eat, even the best-smelling and best-looking foods won't phase you.
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But even well fed guys love to have a little dessert on the side aye? ;)

Angel Food Cake anyone?????