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[Twelve]

Originally posted by Leigh
But even well fed guys love to have a little dessert on the side aye? ;)

Angel Food Cake anyone?????

LOL...

If a man eats his fill, even an extra dessert would be unappealing to him.

;)


Edit: 1000th POST!!!!! WOOHAAAAA

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[Bottle]

Errrrr... 12, I only see 987 posts... :p

[Twelve]

Dang it...looks I need to specify for the highly intelligent future-scientist named Bottle:

There are 1,000 posts in this thread. Now 1,002.

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[Bottle]

Ah. That makes more sense. Most people say that sort of thing when THEY reach 1000 posts... and you were so close to 1000, I thought maybe a thread had been deleted after you had posted that? Ah well.

1004 posts now (you forgot that there are 1003 REPLIES to the thread ;))

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Bottle


1004 posts now (you forgot that there are 1003 REPLIES to the thread ;))

Gotta love the British. :)

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[dim]

Originally posted by Twelve
Dim....I know what you mean, lil' brah. Girls can be quite mesmerizing, can't they? At times it's rather unfair...luckily, there is ONE defense...
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Sir I am most glad you cleared that up with the later post about food for a minute there sir I thought you were going to suggest that I look more into talking to guys. Fortunately for me I dont really look at guys that way. Although I guess there is nothing wrong with that if it is your preference but it is not mine sir.
About the cake what does that have to do anything with girls, I can cook my own food well grilled cheese and Spam and Mac & Cheese but I dont see where having one girl cook you something should be offensive to another girl cooking you something.

Edit: Nevermind I give up on trying to figure you crazy geezers out.;)

[Twelve]

Originally posted by dim
Sir I am most glad you cleared that up with the later post about food for a minute there sir I thought you were going to suggest that I look more into talking to guys. Fortunately for me I dont really look at guys that way. Although I guess there is nothing wrong with that if it is your preference but it is not mine sir.
About the cake what does that have to do anything with girls, I can cook my own food well grilled cheese and Spam and Mac & Cheese but I dont see where having one girl cook you something should be offensive to another girl cooking you something.

Edit: Nevermind I give up on trying to figure you crazy geezers out.;)

LOL!!!

Dim...I love you, brah! You crack me up!

And nah, I'm not into guys either. Why have a hairy, blocky butt when you can have a soft, smooth one? That's only one part of my argument to being hetero.

Don't worry about the food reference man...basically, get your girl, treat her right, and you'll be all the wiser.

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[Bottle]

Originally posted by Twelve
Gotta love the British. :)

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I say, what what, that's a jolly nice thing to say about us, old boy. Spiffing!

[Jonspen]

Yeh!!! Bottle where abouts in biritain do you live, i live in north east.

[T3km4n]

I got up to 1040...

[Bottle]

I live in the south. Near Bournemouth.

[dim]

Originally posted by Bottle
I say, what what, that's a jolly nice thing to say about us, old boy. Spiffing!

LOL after that one my old chap I feel like some Tea and crompets.

BTW what exactly is a crompet sir. I know what tea is but have never really figured out this crompet thing a teacher said the were like a cross between a cookie and a cracker but if your going to cross those 2 things up you might as well get a can of spray cheese to.

PSST. You know us colonists are broke We have no cents sir. At least I dont

[Jonspen]

Cool i live next to newcastle, w00000t am gonna go knocking on your door.

[Bottle]

It's called a crumpet, and it's quite hard to describe. It's nothing like a cookie, though- it's savoury for one thing. And it's not crunchy like a cracker.

[dim]

Sorry Boots sir I was close thow I was only off by one vowel. HE HE Thrdflr would not have gotten it right either he doesn't use any vowels.

Dont know why I brought 3rd into this but maybe one of these days I can go over there and finally get to find out what a crumpet is for myself.

[WlfBane]

Crumpets and butter, hmm...

Almost like Waffles and butter, hmm...

And nah i'm not angry at you Twelve, just showing of fmy new banner. I'm actually very pleased with it, no matter how bland it looks! It took alot of work to get; here is what it originally looked like.

http://img76.exs.cx/img76/9668/example6.jpg

THATS why I am happy ^_^

[Twelve]

*nods head*

Yeah, that's pretty good work there. Now all you need to do is make a wolf shadow on the surface.

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[WlfBane]

Hah that would be easy but my WlfBane account is cursed with bad luck XD

Ripple isn't ^^;;

I dunno what i'm going to do :)

[Twelve]

You let luck have too much of a sway over you.

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[WlfBane]

Meh, I hate luck -.-'

It always seems to appear for my enemy when it shouldn't and when I need it, it isn't there.

Therefore a lucky name can help towards the situation!

But I'm still unlucky...

so yeah...

fuck luck --'

[Twelve]

You let luck have too much power over you because you actually give in to it.

I mean, I know you happen to believe in "lucky names"...if you happen to have a name and you play poorly, you think that name is cursed. Then you go into a game expecting to play poorly. Your attitude is down. And that just leads to you playing poorly, which you attribute to bad luck.

Don't "fuck luck", OWN IT!!!

Powers such as "bad luck" and "good luck" are myths.

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[dim]

LOL
I go into every battle thinking I am going to be flawlessed then when I get that first piece watch out baby there is no stopping me then.

[WlfBane]

I have lost 6 games with WlfBane through bad luck and won 6 games with Ripple without any luck really needed.

Thats why i'm paranoid ^^;;;

[Twelve]

Meh. If you stuck with Wolf, it would even itself out. And you'll start losing with Ripple eventually, and then what...will you make another name because Ripple is suddenly stained?

Heck, I went on a mega losing streak(for the sake of my reputation, I won't say HOW long) with Twelve, and you don't see me giving up that name.

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[WlfBane]

Also 2 names means I can try out new formations Twelve >_>

I have been using a really succesful formation with Ripples.

Its interesting. A defensive lightning ward and a triangle positioning :)

[Catra]

Oppurtunity + Preperation = Luck

[Bottle]

Luck can be harnessed and used tactically. But often, a battle can be lost because despite excellent positioning by you, you still don't get the pyro side hit just before it burns your cleric. That's luck which can't be owned, and happens regardless of preparation.

[Catra]

Very well said Bottle, but there is another side of that... The opportunity was not there.

[Twelve]

I've said it like three times in this thread...

Luck often falls to those who put themselves in the position to receive it.

Basically what Cat said.



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[WlfBane]

I used to believe that until I saw noobs with last minute luck :/

[Bottle]

And now, FryLock just got his luck against me. Furgon hits in the rush-turtle game, with pyro blocks, and then about 20/25 front hits on my scouts in our turtle game. Unbelievable. How is that opportunity and preparation?

Well anyway, that puts Fry into #2 on banff. Props to him. Now, I'm going to get back my position. Unfortunately for rantzu, Fry's got me ANGRY. :)

[dim]

Bottle sir not to stir things up but as far ahead of everyone else as you Fry and Rantzu are don't you guys only get like 1/2 a point for each win sir.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Bottle
And now, FryLock just got his luck against me. Furgon hits in the rush-turtle game, with pyro blocks, and then about 20/25 front hits on my scouts in our turtle game. Unbelievable. How is that opportunity and preparation?

Well anyway, that puts Fry into #2 on banff. Props to him. Now, I'm going to get back my position. Unfortunately for rantzu, Fry's got me ANGRY. :)

C'mon dude. Give Fry some credit. First he beat you rush verses turtle, which is expected. Then he beat you right after turlte vs. turtle at your request. The man fought well so at least give a LITTLE bit up. I know you're not happy, but c'mon. :)


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[The Prophet]

Originally posted by Twelve
C'mon dude. Give Fry some credit. First he beat you rush verses turtle, which is expected. Then he beat you right after turlte vs. turtle at your request. The man fought well so at least give a LITTLE bit up. I know you're not happy, but c'mon. :)

It is always bad luck for them and their loses. Never the skill of their opponent, so don't hold your breathe for any credit.

[bludhoundz]

Thats scary! Fry is good in turtle, but he beat Bottle?! Props! Thats an accomplishment! He'd better not let me down if I play him turt! I've never lost to Fry in turt...but I haven't played him in turt in a while. I wonder if he'd play me turt vs. turt on banff...:D

[FryLock]

20/25 for scout frontals? I think that's a bit high. While I agree that it definitely helped turn the tide in the 2nd game, would it kill you to give me a little credit, Bottle? All the luck in the world doesn't mean anything if one can't do anything with it. Aside from luck, I made some good moves in our turtle game (not sac'ing my dragon, for example), and then setting up the fork to take your last scout.

Again, I admit, I did nail your scouts from the front a bit. But in our 2nd rev league game, I went from sure victory to sure defeat, as a knight and 2 scouts died from front hits, leaving me only a knight against your scout and stone. I still gave you credit for your win. It's just a game. It's just a ranking. I enjoyed our games today. As odd as it sounds, I enjoyed your company, too. :) We all know you're a good player. Would it hurt to dish out a little praise yourself, every now and then?

[Bottle]

I gave you props, didn't I? ;)

Ok, so maybe it wasn't quite that bad. More like 15/25. But it was still enough to force me onto the defensive, which against a good player is suicide.

Anyway, I still think I'm better than you at turtling. And you're better than me at rushing. Care to prove me wrong? :)

[*The Nothing*]

Here's my site guys, check it out! Not much at all right now, but oh well, it'll get better i suppose

http://www.freewebs.com/taothenothing/

[Twelve]

BOOKMARKED.

I like this one, "Netjak.com. These boys are rough let me tell ya."

Heck yeah. We don't mess.

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[bludhoundz]

Originally posted by Twelve
"Netjak.com. These boys are rough let me tell ya."

Gotta agree there. For every one of you guys I beat another just totals me.

[WlfBane]

But just think, I still can beat you all :rolleyes:

Especially you Twelve :P

*cough* 6-1 *cough*

[FryLock]

Originally posted by Bottle
Anyway, I still think I'm better than you at turtling. And you're better than me at rushing.

I think that's a very accurate description of our abilities. In the turtle game we had, luck, and a lack of mistakes from me (I always seem to screw up turtle games somehow) managed to tip the balance. It was fun, they were both hard fought matches. And I'd say that even if I lost both of them badly.

Which I didn't. :D

This time. You know I respect you and your shrubs.

[bludhoundz]

You don't see me showing off my record on Twelve Wlf:D (cept my wins in a row...which was a little arrogant). *takes a bet that those 6 games vs. Twelve by Wlf were his only lucky games in history(even if skill was involved)*

Fry - how do you respect those shrubs? I'm telling you...my furgon is in cahouts (I think thats the word) with my cat, in a giant drug organization. I think the dragon is in on it too, Hes the kingpin; the pyros are his little assassin henchmen. The furgon is like the mad genius.

PS. 1041st post on the thread! (unsophisticated humor).

[Twelve]

*rolls eyes*

Wolf, please keep your story-book tendencies at bay. Now you're REALLY just making stuff up. I mean, come on.

The only people who have records against me that I'm ashamed of are Moose and Bludhoundz, pretty much. Wack-Head and Rescorlian used to be on that list, but I've rectified that.

With Moose and Blud, I just have bad luck in terms of formations. Whenever I choose rock, they got paper. I go scissor, they go rock. I go paper, they go scissor. Just how it is...


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[FryLock]

Originally posted by WlfBane
But just think, I still can beat you all :rolleyes:


Maybe you can, maybe you can't...only one way to really find out. Look me up on rev sometime.

[Office_Shredder]

Twelve, I'm what, 10-0 against you? :p Actually, I have no clue, I'm just making up numbers :D

And no wlfbane, you can't.

[Twelve]

When it comes to you, Office, my memory leads me to two scenes:

1. Me always calling you out in the lobby for a game, and you always have some reason not to play me.

2. Afer months, you finally getting the faith to play me and beating me.

So, yeah, 1-0 for you against me.


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[Office_Shredder]

Actually, I think we've played more than one game, and I'm not sure if I've won all of them.

And I don't think at the beginning I refused to play you over and over again, since I don't remember you constantly asking me to play....

[Twelve]

Like I said, man...I'm only speaking based on my own memory. I could be wrong, but those are the thoughts in my head.


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[WlfBane]

Can't visit Rev, Frylock :)

Plus everyone always underestimates my grey formations and skills and look what happened? I played a respectable game against Search66 and won soundly yes but it was done with much effort. One of the best golds I've played.

I've beaten Twelves unbeatable anti-grey and clocked him countless times with grey vs grey and gold vs gold.

I just rule XD

nah in all serious I used to have a great mental mind for this game.

I didn't look for 2 3 or 4 steps it was also 7, 8 or 9 turns a reach.

My predictions were about 90% exact and the other time I was close and covered all places.

Shame I've lost all that now but suppose it happens.

Enjoy yourselves and don't take things too seriously ^_^ They are better things you could be doing than discussing battling; always brings out the worst in one person or another.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by WlfBane


I've beaten Twelves unbeatable anti-grey and clocked him countless times with grey vs grey and gold vs gold.



Wolf, it's only because I got a soft spot for you that I allow you to say such tales and I still call you my friend.

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[WlfBane]

<3

You also don't tell them about the random humilating formations I use XD

[old_man_killer]

Originally posted by Twelve
*rolls eyes*
The only people who have records against me that I'm ashamed of are Moose and Bludhoundz, pretty much. Wack-Head and Rescorlian used to be on that list, but I've rectified that.
With Moose and Blud, I just have bad luck in terms of formations. Whenever I choose rock, they got paper. I go scissor, they go rock. I go paper, they go scissor. Just how it is...
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Does that mean, your not ashamed of our game? he he he

[Twelve]

Wolf: Remember, I called them "tales"...meaning complete fiction. :) Or maybe aberrations of the truth!

OMK: Ohhhh...you brought that out in public? Alright then, I guess I'll have to remind folks that I was playing him at 3 am IN THE MORNING in Switzerland while he was enjoying normal East coast time!

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[Hugh Junit]

Geeez, this thread is rollin' like a freight train. I go without posting for one day and I'm completely lost. Guess netjak is the place to be, of course.:cool:

[roody poo]

Think of how I feel since I have ignored the TAO forums for almost a week now. It's not even worth trying to catch up.

[dim]

Yea Yea Yea

Lets throw this baby in another direction then. As of tonight my football team is officially 3-0 and our defense is still unscored upon.

We Rock almost as much as Clan NETJAK.COM BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Note: We should be 4-0 but last week was cancelled for the stupid hurricane.

[Hugh Junit]

Nice work, dim. I told you chasing those chickens would pay off.:cool:

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Hugh Junit
Geeez, this thread is rollin' like a freight train. I go without posting for one day and I'm completely lost. Guess netjak is the place to be, of course.:cool:

Quite the contrast to how this thread was back in the beginning. Note how in the beginning, I was more or less posting to myself. There is even a month long gap between my posts at one point, I believe. :)

GO DIM, GO DIM HOOK IT UP!!!


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[Jeffery]

Your all delusional with glee!!!!!!!

[Twelve]

Am I the only person that is looking at a completely empty post from Jeffery here? I can't imagine him doing that on purpose, but I see no text.

Edit:That's because, for some strange reason, Jeff is writing in black.

And yeah, ignorance is bliss, bud. :)

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[Hugh Junit]

Not one of Jefferie's better ideas. Oh well, maybe its some kind of statement.
Rock on, Jeffery.
* squints and stares at screen *:cool:

[WaCk-HeAd]

Originally posted by WlfBane
But just think, I still can beat you all :rolleyes:


You can finally say that eh? after i left? ;)


and twelve btw.. you played a nice act ;)

[Twelve]

You did too, Wack.

*wink*

As a matter of fact, I think we both played it TOO well. LOL! No hard feelings, right?

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[DeathWish]

jeffery is pretty sneaky

[Jonspen]

If it hadn't of been pointed out it was in black i wuddent of known, then i highlighted it and read it, very cleaver indeed.

[WaCk-HeAd]

Hahaha of course NO hard feelings.. but Psycho/Jonspen/Leigh already know, psycho figured it out.. but maybe i should look further than just there, and go on the other 2 as well.. :rolleyes:

[Jonspen]

Hehehe you moving on?

[psychofireman]

actually you where the one that said you were wack first. i just made you freak...which was totally funny i thought

[Jonspen]

LoL yea that was funny.....:D

[Hugh Junit]

I like the new avatar, psycho. Very cool.:cool:

[Jonspen]

No it's aint cool, it's hot!!! Or is that just me (Licks finger and puts it on butt* Nope it's just me, I'M HOT!

[psychofireman]

Thanks i got it from meletus

[Leigh]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd
Hahaha of course NO hard feelings.. but Psycho/Jonspen/Leigh already know, psycho figured it out.. but maybe i should look further than just there, and go on the other 2 as well.. :rolleyes:

And as usual.... I was the total airhead, retard, blonde... :D

You should have been a fly on the clan talk wall listening to me go on and on and on about how SURE I was that you were that Vival... Aka. Dr. Love....

Paybacks HELL Wack (!) ;)

[Smoke]

Well, I can finally get to this...

Hello, my name's Smoke (Obviously) of the Great Lakes server. I'm taking over Lord Achilles' status as one of the leaders since he was banned due to his very idiotic behavior.

He said he considered your clan friendly to him, and that I should introduce myself to all of you. I hear you're great players, so I'll be looking foward to games with all of you. I've already met Doce (Somewhat), and he seems like a very nice man, I hope all of your clan with-holds that same character.

And somthing I'm sure you're wondering. Why I've been given a leader status so quickly. I'm actually not new here. I played in December, but then in February my wife passed away, so I stopped for quite some time. But I was one of the founders of BG, so he let me return as that.

Well, that is about all. You all seem like great players and people, and I'll be looking foward to meeting you!

[Leigh]

Smoke..... I'm SO SORRY to hear you lost your wife. :( I can't even begin to imagine the hell you've been going thru.

Time helps and heals... But I know you NEVER get over it.
Prayers for you my friend.

[chaos king77]

nice to meet you smoke. and sry to hear about that.

[WlfBane]

Nice abtruct banner smoke

[Jonspen]

Sorry to hear that smoke.......i met you in the lobby the other day talkign to doce, you seem nice too :D

[WaCk-HeAd]

Originally posted by Leigh
And as usual.... I was the total airhead, retard, blonde... :D

You should have been a fly on the clan talk wall listening to me go on and on and on about how SURE I was that you were that Vival... Aka. Dr. Love....

Paybacks HELL Wack (!) ;)

LOL, that was the part i really liked from this ;)

[Jonspen]

LoL hell yeh that was funny, Leigh is so parinoid....:D

[Leigh]

Originally posted by Jonspen
LoL hell yeh that was funny, Leigh is so parinoid....:D

*Makes a mental note to add Jon's name right under Wack's on her "PAYBACK IS HELL" list* ;)

[Jonspen]

Hehe i'll be waiting ;)

[Hugh Junit]

Ouch, Leigh has a revenge list. I sure hope I'm not on it. :cool:

Thanks for the introduction, Smoke. In my opinion, gestures like that go a long way.

I'm very sorry to hear about your loss.

[Leigh]

Originally posted by Hugh Junit
Ouch, Leigh has a revenge list. I sure hope I'm not on it. :cool:

Nahhhhhh... All you're responsible for is making me CRACK UP (!) GOD LOVE YA!!!! :D

[psychofireman]

Leigh is as sweet as can be

[Leigh]

Originally posted by psychofireman
Leigh is as sweet as can be

I swear I didn't pay him to say that!!!! ;)

[psychofireman]

lol:) :D

[Smoke]

Thankyou to everyone. It was hard, but I'm coping with it best I can.

[Twelve]

Leigh making a payback list? Gwahaha....nothing to fear, gents, nothing to fear. :)

As for you Smoke, welcome back. What has happened to you pretty much makes up my greatest nightmare...the only thing on this planet that I fear. I'm happy to see you back and coping with it. God bless you.

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[Leigh]

Originally posted by Twelve
Leigh making a payback list? Gwahaha....nothing to fear, gents, nothing to fear. :)


*Puts her hands on her hips and makes an attempt at a mean face*....

And just WHAT is that supposed to mean Twelve?!?!!? Grrrrrrrr....

[Hatchet Warrior]

Oh... Twelves in trouble now lol.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Leigh
*Puts her hands on her hips and makes an attempt

Key word being...

ATTEMPT!!!

That's why there is nothing to fear. :)


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[T3km4n]

Wait, Twelve = Doce right?

[Twelve]

Doce = Twelve in Spanish, but Doce does not = Twelve.


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[T3km4n]

Doce = Twelve's scary stalker?

[Twelve]

Uh-oh. Better clarify this before this gets out of hand.

Doce = Old Man Killer = netjak.com leader in Great Lakes.


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[Hugh Junit]

Originally posted by Twelve
Doce = Old Man Killer = netjak.com leader in Great Lakes.
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I thought everyone knew that. Well, except for total NOOBS.

* points at Tekman and laughs *:D

[T3km4n]

Originally posted by Hugh Junit
I thought everyone knew that. Well, except for total NOOBS.

* points at Tekman and laughs *:D Hey, I'm in spanish class, and my teacher says Doce and I went in a daze.

[old_man_killer]

Damn, I seem to be getting popular lately. Though I'm not so sure this is a good thing.

[Jonspen]

All hail doce! :p

(Has a new kick ass flying "Netjak.com" w000t!

[old_man_killer]

nice flying netjak!

[Jonspen]

Why thank you old man!

[Twelve]

DANG it! Now who went and stole the 1100 post on this tread from me? Sheesh!!

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[Jonspen]

hehe i saw that so i post whored....:D

[Bottle]

Hey now, I'm the resident post whore here.

[Jonspen]

bottle remember in the good ole day's when we both came here TOGETHER, rmember when we were greys? yeh u emember alrightey anyway notice we joined at the same time huh? notice the post count huh? well that is coz i went to legends for six months, silly me :rolleyes: anyway i am back in town and i need my post COUNT UP UP UP

(the whole story was so i oculd get some posts in my count :p )

[Bottle]

Ermm... your post count is about 1/20th of mine. Anyone can claim t be a post whore, it's the post count that does the talking :)

[Jonspen]

Also 8 months on leave to legends doesn't help my count either

[Hugh Junit]

Originally posted by Bottle
Hey now, I'm the resident post whore here.

NOONE would dispute that, Bottle.:cool:

[Jonspen]

Originally posted by Hugh Junit
NOONE would dispute that, Bottle.:cool:

Apart from me, bottle i am back from legends to kick your ass again :p

[Twelve]

Man!

You always hear about people waking up on the "wrong side of the bed" or waking up feeling horrible.

But do you often hear about people waking up and feeling GREAT!!!???

I just woke up, and I feel....absolutely...perfect. Shockingly so...I first had to check to make sure I was actually awake.

Since a certain kind of drama that began in my life on August 4th, and technically ended 3 weeks later, I've been living pretty much with my ceiling below true happiness. I guess I've gotten quite used to it.

But sheesh, I woke up this morning...and...WOW...I feel like I'm finally back to my old self! I've literally not felt this good since August.

I would like to thank God for providing for me spiritually during this time.

I would like to thank my cutie wife for providing for me physically during this time(Hugh? You talk about being lucky? Good God my boo is on a roll lately!).

Last but not least, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY HOMEBOYS AND HOMEGIRLS AT THE 'JAK FOR BEING THE BEST! Even during that dark time recently when I felt like a loser, you've all made me feel like a winner.

I ALWAYS give props where props are due and I need to give it up now!!! You guys ROCK!!!

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[Bottle]

Originally posted by Jonspen
Apart from me, bottle i am back from legends to kick your ass again :p

*Looks pointedly at Jonspen's post count and rating*

[Hugh Junit]

Good to hear, Twelve. I know exactly what you mean. There 's something incredible about coming out of a low time and actually realizing it. It feels great.

Ahhh, the perfect place for my 1000th post. Netjak rules!:cool:

[Twelve]

Sounds like you speak from exerience bro...boy, does it feel gooooooooooooooooooooood.

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[Jonspen]

Indeed we do friend indeed we do.

[Twelve]

Ahhh...it's a good day. Just broke the 1500 mark in Legends for a 1501 rating. Didn't lose once today. Beat a guy who won 2 tournaments there(will keep his name private) and he said to me before the game, "Your formation isn't very good".

I just said ":)" and proceded to dissect him.

He surrendered eventually. Called me a n00b afterwards. Go figure. But he really shouldn't have falled for that trick that allowed me to roast his cleric with my witch.

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[Jonspen]

^^lemme guess "xXwhite allianceXx" i hate him too, i own3d his ass too. :D

[bludhoundz]

I love those absolutely perfect days. But now they are no more...8 hour school day crushes everything for me. It does stuff to your head. Believe me.:(

[Moose]

But 12, he's only speaking the truth? Besides breaking 1500 on legends isn't that hard :P



Moosey

[zzzaacckk]

ya i got 2 1400 on legends and i was only playing 4 2 weeks. i also had 4 muddies at the end and i was grey.

[Twelve]

I'm quite proud of the fact that I've went from 1200 to 1501 in Legends in less then 2 weeks. I'm taking EVERYBODY down...and I look forward to facing off against your 1700 rated behind too, Moose. Take comfort in your wins against me...because I'm coming to get you. :)

And whenever you can manage to get your boy XXX to play me, that would be great as well!! The dude has a strange policy in which he only jumps people he wants to play...he's tried to jump me three times and has missed! What he doesn't know is that I WANT him to jump me! Sheesh!!!


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[Jonspen]

He wouldnt jump me, but i am going to wait till after the tourney before i return to legends, i do nto want my stat going up TOO much.

[Bottle]

Originally posted by zzzaacckk
ya i got 2 1400 on legends and i was only playing 4 2 weeks. i also had 4 muddies at the end and i was grey.

I reached 1200 on legends inside 5 hours as a grey, during which time I beat several 1500 golds (double and single) and flawlessed a 1400 single gold. I then left because I was bored by the lack of challenges.

[Twelve]

Currently, I'm teeter-tottering back and forth on the 1499-1504 ranking...win, loss, win, loss, win, loss...I need a breakthrough!!!


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[Twelve]

ARGH!

I'm back to 1499. I made the mistake of playing a dude named

YRV, rated 1670something.

Now, let me say that I've seen many people outdo me with a frostie. I've seen it done well.

But this guy...

I swear, I had this guy BEAT. SURROUNDED. TRAPPED.

Through genius...absolute genius that I've never seen before, he somehow got me.

In the end, I ended up running away from his frostie with my cleric and dragon.

EMBARRASSED.

Naturally, I invited him to the clan.

The good thing is, he accepted. Even Aza said, "WOW!"

Sheesh...what a game...I wish I had that recorded.


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[Jonspen]

I have beat him before, clan game though, we are friends. Tell him i am glad he is aboard.

[Thargor]

i've yet to loose a game there, something like 15 or 20 wins (and one draw, i had to leave a game, and my enemy agreed that a draw was the most reasonable way since the game was even) Beaten several golds alaong the way.

[Smoke]

Heh, I just dug up an old thread. You guys were talking about your conquest of Great Lakes. And Achilles and Darrington Darque were just swearing at you.

Can we do that again? It looks like fun.

[Hugh Junit]

That's the past, amigo. GL is under new leadership, now. Besides, with ducki and Ach gone, the verbal battles won't have the same fire.
Best to keep it light.
:cool:

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Smoke
Heh, I just dug up an old thread. You guys were talking about your conquest of Great Lakes. And Achilles and Darrington Darque were just swearing at you.

Can we do that again? It looks like fun.

What Hugh said...that's another time and place in our development. Not to say we're not doing damage in Great Lakes, but...different style now. :)

As for you, Thargor...I would really LOVE to see you continue that winning streak!!!

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[WaCk-HeAd]

Originally posted by Twelve
ARGH!

I'm back to 1499. I made the mistake of playing a dude named

YRV, rated 1670something.

Now, let me say that I've seen many people outdo me with a frostie. I've seen it done well.

But this guy...

I swear, I had this guy BEAT. SURROUNDED. TRAPPED.

Through genius...absolute genius that I've never seen before, he somehow got me.

In the end, I ended up running away from his frostie with my cleric and dragon.

EMBARRASSED.

Naturally, I invited him to the clan.

The good thing is, he accepted. Even Aza said, "WOW!"

Sheesh...what a game...I wish I had that recorded.


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Yo What The HELL

YRV joined? LOL.. i've fought Yrv sooo many times.. Cough beaten him sooo many times cough, but he's cool.. say hi for me will you?

[Jonspen]

Say hi for me tooooo :D

[Jonspen]

This is the perfect place for my 300th post.

W00T FOR ME!

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Twelve]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd
Yo What The HELL

YRV joined? LOL.. i've fought Yrv sooo many times.. Cough beaten him sooo many times cough, but he's cool.. say hi for me will you?

Wack-Head? GO BACK TO SCHOOL!! :)

Dang, everytime I be honest about my TAO struggles, someone comes along and tries to use that to show that they're better.

"Woohoo! I got 1500 today"!!

Reply: Oh, ho-hum. I got 1500 in 15 minutes!!

"YEAH! We got the best member on the planet on our clan today!!"

Reply: Ho-hum. I beat that guy all the time!

"I'm on a crazy winning streak!!"

Reply: Ho-hum. I beat you 3 times straight!!

Bastards!!


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[Jonspen]

Haha damn straight boyo "Highly feared" - "Laughed at"

[Twelve]

Jonspen, you clown! I always thought that you were my last bastion of support!!!


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[Jonspen]

Heh *runs away*

[Smoke]

Originally posted by Hugh Junit
with ducki and Ach gone

Those were the only two men I ever suspected of having PMS.

[old_man_killer]

Originally posted by Smoke
Those were the only two men I ever suspected of having PMS.

lmao

[Hatchet Warrior]

lmao. nice one smoke.

[Hatchet Warrior]

yo jonspen, whats up?

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Smoke
Those were the only two men I ever suspected of having PMS.

Oh noooooooooooooooo.............


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[Catra]

Deep breaths Twelve, it's ok! =)

[Twelve]

*makes a goofy smile before he can stop himself*

[WlfBane]

Hey guys!

Just thought I would drop in and say hi.

Havn't been on TAO at all, it lost its appeal to me for a while along with the fact I got back my staff position on another online game.

Yay! ^_^

I left them for this game but now I leave this game for them.

Random.

Hows the clan and tao? anything interesting been happening?

[Amaroth]

How you all doing? I decided to drop by and say hello.

[old_man_killer]

hello, ach?

[Hugh Junit]

Greetings, Ach and Wolfbane.
Not too much happenin' around these parts.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Amaroth
How you all doing? I decided to drop by and say hello.

Who tha...

Ach?

As for you, Bane...we're just marching along as per normal. There was a MAJOR war going on among the TAOers...causing people to quit like crazy...and for once it had NOTHING TO DO WITH NETJAK!!

W00T!!

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[Amaroth]

Yes, it's Ach.

And I should forever be commemorated in Netjak's history. Afterall, I got banned defending a Netjakker.

[Twelve]

Well Ach, it's good to see you...really.

As for what you just said...strangely enough, I find it hard to figure out what to say in reply.

But you'll be rememebered in netjak history even before that tragic time.

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[Leigh]

Hey Ach !!!! :) (Is that really your face?)

[abyaly]

Snarr's face, if I'm not mistaken.

[max2k106]

oh yeah, thats definitely snarr's

[Twelve]

Originally posted by abyaly
Snarr's face, if I'm not mistaken.

Oh crap...

Ach, that's rather bastardly of you. Now you know I got your back, but that's going a bit too far. I can't follow you there...


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[bludhoundz]

Argh...I thought your grey name had nothing to do with the number Twelve...but I just learned numbers 1-20 in german today...and guess what Twelve was? Your grey name :)

[Twelve]

You may have hear of Zwölf, Doce, and Eindeg-Dein. They all mean "Twelve" in various languages.

Blud, lernst du Deutsch?


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[old_man_killer]

Originally posted by Twelve
You may have hear of Zwölf, Doce, and Eindeg-Dein. They all mean "Twelve" in various languages.

Blud, lernst du Deutsch?


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But... It is also true that not ALL 12's are 12.

[Twelve]

This is true. There are reportedly 3-6 people who are 12 in Great Lakes.

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[WlfBane]

I'm 9 of them

[Twelve]

Originally posted by WlfBane
I'm 9 of them

Wolf, don't be getting weird again. :confused:

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[bludhoundz]

Originally posted by Twelve
You may have hear of Zwölf, Doce, and Eindeg-Dein. They all mean "Twelve" in various languages.

Blud, lernst du Deutsch?


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Ja. *I'm learning it*
The teacher made the boys sing the girl's part in a german song and vice versa...I cracked up...

[WlfBane]

me? Be Weird? NEVER!!1

Not my style!

[Bottle]

Originally posted by WlfBane
me? Be Weird? NEVER!!1

Not my style!

^ took about 5 minutes to write :)

[WaCk-HeAd]

Originally posted by Bottle
^ took about 5 minutes to write :)

Didn't you get beaten by Crater with a default grey setup? :D

[WlfBane]

nah only a minute to write.

I know my coding pretty well and my typing is fast

[Twelve]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd
Didn't you get beaten by Crater with a default grey setup? :D

Ohh...now wack, why did you have to go and bring that up.

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[WaCk-HeAd]

"I'm so good, I don't need to boast any more."
:D

Hehehe, sorry just thought it was quite funny.. ;)

[JC86]

Nooooo wack-head still around....
*prepares rifle* muaoahahah....*Loads the rifle....aims at wack-head.......*

To be Continued.....;)

[Jonspen]

JC86 what are you doing here? Shoooo you pest! Shoooo i tell you!

[WaCk-HeAd]

Originally posted by JC86
Nooooo wack-head still around....
*prepares rifle* muaoahahah....*Loads the rifle....aims at wack-head.......*

To be Continued.....;)

Congrats on the 1700 accomplishment.. i guess legends went down hill after my exit ;)

Did we ever battle btw?

[Twelve]

Hey, JC86 can post here as much as he wants. Anybody who gives me that much props can post here FOREVER.

:D :D :D

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[Bottle]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd
Didn't you get beaten by Crater with a default grey setup? :D

Yup. And crater will admit that had the CRAZIEST luck. Even then, it came down to a knight-on-knight battle, with both needing one hit to die. I had a LW; I could have gone for the draw. I had a go at a side attack. He blocked. He won by 2 HP.

Even the default setup is hard to beat if used by a skillful player, especially if they get lucky.

[Hugh Junit]

Originally posted by Bottle
He blocked. He won by 2 HP.


That's a real nail-biter. It doesn't get much closer.
I once lost a match by 1 hp. At the end of the game, all that remained was a knight with 1 point. I can't remember who it was, though.
Anyone else ever have a game that close?

[old_man_killer]

I was recently in a game that came down to scout 14 hp (his) vs scout 4 hp (mine). we were on the same row, I shot he blocked, he shot I died!

[The Prophet]

Those games drive me insane!

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Hugh Junit
That's a real nail-biter. It doesn't get much closer.
I once lost a match by 1 hp. At the end of the game, all that remained was a knight with 1 point. I can't remember who it was, though.
Anyone else ever have a game that close?

When it comes to a knight on knight battle in the end, you can have health between 1 and 17. It doesn't matter. One hit will end it.

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[WaCk-HeAd]

Originally posted by Twelve
When it comes to a knight on knight battle in the end, you can have health between 1 and 17. It doesn't matter. One hit will end it.

12


*stares at twelve*

*shakes head*

I think we all figured that by now twelve..

*continues with shaking his head*

[Bottle]

Originally posted by WaCk-HeAd
*stares at twelve*

*shakes head*

I think we all figured that by now twelve..

*continues with shaking his head*

LOL. 12 gets PWNED. :D

That doesn't happen to me much any more though... my games always seem to end with the enemy knights 1 or 2 spaces away from my chanty, for some reason. Before the chanty days, when the best greys used 2 or 3 witches and 2 clerics, it happened regularly.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Bottle
LOL. 12 gets PWNED. :D

That doesn't happen to me much any more though... my games always seem to end with the enemy knights 1 or 2 spaces away from my chanty, for some reason. Before the chanty days, when the best greys used 2 or 3 witches and 2 clerics, it happened regularly.

Oh, please don't give Wack a bigger head then he already has. He's already totally confused as to his worth. It'll be a sad day when the truth comes crashing down around him.

Irritatingly enough, my close games usually end up involving my slow as heck dragon...I'm often lucky that most players don't know (or have forgotten) how easy it is to force a draw when I'm down to a dragon.

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[WaCk-HeAd]

Come on twelve.. you were stating the complete obvious.. so i had to make a comment..

and forcing a draw when you're facing a dragon is complete and utterly sad.. it happened to me once.. and i flipped...

[Twelve]

Do you consider it honorable?

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[WaCk-HeAd]

i think i made that clear?

No i don't.. and I think bad of EVERYONE who ever did it..

(excluding the expceptions.. complete trash talkers, retards, jumpers.. shit like that.. simply because you can laugh your ass off)

[Twelve]

Hmmm....so basically, you're saying that if you worked hard to knock out all of your enemy's units except for the dragon, you should just give up since forcing the draw would be wrong?

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[Bottle]

If you allow yourself to only be left with a dragon, you don't deserve the win. Taking out everything but the dragon in a bad situation to force the draw is a very good tactic to use. Just 'cos it happens to you, doesn't mean it's unfair. Just learn to deal with it.

Wow, about 4 months ago 12 was telling me almost exactly the same thing about bombs :D

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Bottle
If you allow yourself to only be left with a dragon, you don't deserve the win. Taking out everything but the dragon in a bad situation to force the draw is a very good tactic to use. Just 'cos it happens to you, doesn't mean it's unfair. Just learn to deal with it.

Wow, about 4 months ago 12 was telling me almost exactly the same thing about bombs :D

I totally agree with you, Bottle. As for the second point, yeah, that makes me laugh now.


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[Jonspen]

*beats Jc on legends* do that funky dance oh yea

[Hugh Junit]

Ahhh, Twelve and WaCk going back and forth.
Just like old times.:cool:

[Twelve]

Ok, ok...I admit it...I do.

I didn't want to come to this point, because I've always tried to look at this game in a positive light...

I've spoken against those who say this game sucks because of luck, by saying such nice sounding phrases like, "Luck fall to those who put themselves in the position to receive it".

But I've had enough...this game is seriously flawed. I've long secretly held this belief, but now I know it's a FACT: between two equally skilled players, you might as well flip a coin to decide who will win because it all comes down to luck.

I don't care what formation you use, what units, nothing...

Some say that a way to avoid luck is to use spellcasting units. Even this logic, if true, reveals a major flaw in the game's setup. However, even spellcasting units fall to the rules of luck when it comes to deciding if you're DSM blocks that lucky scout shot when he only has 8 health or not.

Formations have much to do with the game's outcome, sure(even that has much to do with luck...who knows if your formation will be appropriate with what you face?), but even a well-crafted formation will fall apart when the opponent has key blocks.

I know I'm only preaching to the choir...many know this and have accepted it. However, I figured that if I played long enough I would somehow see a deeper, more mature side to this game that would reveal a place where one can overcome luck.

However, as I've been playing since January, I see that these original ideas are just being confirmed over and over.

The clincher for me happened just now: I was *clowning* a well respected, older player in Legends(he had 2 scouts). I mean, MAJOR clownage.

I had the superior formation, I was outplaying him every step of the game. I was outplaying him so badly that I was even overcoming the HORRENDOUS luck that I was having througout. His scouts were blocking like magic, while my boys absolutely refused to block. Still, I was owning him and feeling quite good about my ability to overcome luck with skill.

At one point in the game, all he had left was a knight, those 2 ridiculously lucky scouts, a stonie, and a frostie. Somehow, I managed to knock one of his scouts down to 5 health. One shot from ANYTHING would kill it.

I had a cleric, scout, 2 knights, and a pyro. Considering what I had been through this game, I not only deserved the win, but I had earned it and the game was mine.

Well, that lucky scout with 5 health, who ALWAYS blocked from the side when he needed to, farted his way into position to finish off my damaged cleric.

Still, I had the advantage. Then, one of my two FULL health knights simply stopped blocking, and with a mixture of old frostie techniques and his remaining lucky scout, he died.

Things would have been easier for me if my scout chose to block ONCE. Nope...he died with 2 attacks of the enemy knight.

As if to laugh at my luck, my pyro managed to block an attack after he had already been knocked to 8 health, but since his wait is 3 turns, it didn't matter as my opponent simply got behind him and killed him.

It took a long time to kill my enemy's remaining scout...it would have taken 2 hits but of course this scout chose to sideblock.

I found myself, somehow, with one knight remaining against the enemy knight, stonie, and frostie.

Since my opponent was higher than my 1520 rating, I figured, disgustedly, that I can try for a draw. Heck, all I needed to do was hit the enemy knight a couple of times.

The enemy knight blocked both attacks from the side, giving my oppoent time to slug his frostie into position.

By this time, I knew that I was lost...but I would be a good sport and allow my opponent the satisfaction of pwning me.

I had myself in a spot where if I moved anywhere, the frostie would have frozen me. So, I knew I lost.

To add a cherry on this game's retard-sundae(thanx 66), my opponent said "what the hell" and attacked my knight from the front.

It got through. We both laughed...I don't know why my opponent was laughing but my laughter was certainly not out of joy.

Then he went around and attacked my knight from the side. My knight didn't block of course, and I lost without him even losing his frostie.

"GG", my opponent said.

I replied, "I would say 'GG', but this game had nothing to do with skill. Take care."

Now, some idealists may come along after this post and suggest what I COULD have done...well, I'm not a n00b. Trust me, I played with skill in this game and I tried all options.

Stuff like this has happened to me before, disgusting me...but I've had about enough. I've been a gamer since '84 and I take pride at being good in game requiring skill and strategy. But when somethink like this happens, it seems to be a slap in the face at my intelligence. Why waste the brain energy on something that won't reward you for it? I think I'll go back to chess for my online kicks. Chess is....perfect.

Oh well. This isn't meant to be a discouragement for those who love this game. And I'm not done yet. It's just that I may be entering a phase where I won't be able to take this game seriously anymore. What is rating? Seriously, I now know for a FACT that high rating only goes to those who play a lot...and that's all, folks!!

Because of luck, I've beaten the very best in this game(heck, Rantzu has never beaten me...I would love to say that this is due to skill but it's like flipping a coin that turned out to be heads 3 times straight for me, that's all). I've lost to clowns in this game because of it as well.

Oh well.

I just want to say "sorry" for those who I dissed in the past when they said the same thing I say here. How cocky I was!!!

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[WaCk-HeAd]

First: you can look at this games 2 ways

Or you think this game is about killing your opponents units
Or you thinki this game is about preventing your opponent to kill your units..
you guys obviously go for the second.. i go for the first.. that's why we disagree...

and second:

You're absolutely right twelve

[Bottle]

I'm tempted to quote parts of 12's last post, but it would just make this one too long as well. All I'm going to say is this. You're absolutely right about two equally skilled players playing, that it'll be the toss of a coin. I don't know about rush-rush matches, but I can attest that in a top game between two excellent turtlers, even the person who gets first turn has a massive advantage, because they are the ones who get their dragon to attack an enemy scout first, forcing that scout back... and you can't win a defensive turtle match if your opponent has a muddie. And then there's the matter of front and side blocks on scouts, which often decide battles too.

All I can say in consolation is that it was one game. If you care about rating, then yes, it's a big blow to lose a game you should have won. If you don't care about rating, then you can look back on the match and say "Yeah, I pwned that guy. He knows who the better player was, and so do I. The fact that *You Lose* came up at the end meant nothing at all," then you won't mind the bad luck at all. I know this, because I've had some humdingers with Big X, Darque and Draquist that came down to luck, and because they were in my clan and so rating was irrelevant, we both knew that in many cases, the better player didn't win, and both admitted so. Because we didn't take the game seriously, it was far more enjoyable, even when we lost.

I find that too many people say gg after a match, regardless of how good the match was. Yes, it's common politeness, but if your opponent is fuming over a series of lucky pyro blocks, then I'd say it would be more polite to apologise for your good luck, and offer a rematch.

Finally, I'd just like to say how nice it is to see 12 lose his cool for once. Proves he's human after all. :cool:

[abyaly]

The wonderful thing is when people accuse of of winning by luck when they outblocked you the whole game :cool:

Anyway, how can it be that so many people noticed the luck involved in the game, but overlooked the NLL (http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8476&highlight=luck)? Hell, I would have loved if more people were interested in it. I was disappointed when it simply died from lack of interest.

[T3km4n]

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[Catra]

Originally posted by Bottle
Finally, I'd just like to say how nice it is to see 12 lose his cool for once. Proves he's human after all. :cool:

Wow... I have to say ditto Bottle. Twelve, human? Ha! ;)

[T3km4n]

Phew, I finally made it in. *wipes forehead*

*steals one of Hugh's beers*

[Hugh Junit]

Originally posted by T3km4n

*steals one of Hugh's beers*

You don't want to go and do that on your first day in netjak, Tek.
That's a good way to lose a hand.
Now, go get a Pepsi from dim.:cool:

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Catra
Wow... I have to say ditto Bottle. Twelve, human? Ha! ;)

Ouch...what kind of impression have I been giving? Dang...
BOTTLE AND CATRA, I WANT CLARIFICATION!!

As for you, TK3...I always knew you had a secret desire to join us, despite the time when you would dis us. Welcome aboard.

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[Bottle]

Originally posted by Twelve
Ouch...what kind of impression have I been giving? Dang...
BOTTLE AND CATRA, I WANT CLARIFICATION!!

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Well, 12, you've always been FAR too cool about EVERYTHING to be human. I'd concluded you were a Vulcan.

Just read your update on the review, 12, and I'd say that you SHOULD have said that MOST games will be decided by luck not skill. Sometimes, a slight imbalance in luck can be counteracted by good play. It makes it sound as though luck rules the game; it doesn't in grey games AT ALL, as you woud know if you played it, and many gold games are only slightly affected. Anyone reading that review will now think that it's not a good game because everything is decided by luck. It's not. Still, it's your opinion, and your review, so you can say what you want about it. I wouldn't have put it like that, though. If I read that review a month ago having never played TAO, I'd have jumped at it. Now, if I read it and hadn't played it before, I'd think that it wasn't worth playing. And it is.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Bottle
Well, 12, you've always been FAR too cool about EVERYTHING to be human. I'd concluded you were a Vulcan.

Just read your update on the review, 12, and I'd say that you SHOULD have said that MOST games will be decided by luck not skill. Sometimes, a slight imbalance in luck can be counteracted by good play. It makes it sound as though luck rules the game; it doesn't in grey games AT ALL, as you woud know if you played it, and many gold games are only slightly affected. Anyone reading that review will now think that it's not a good game because everything is decided by luck. It's not. Still, it's your opinion, and your review, so you can say what you want about it. I wouldn't have put it like that, though. If I read that review a month ago having never played TAO, I'd have jumped at it. Now, if I read it and hadn't played it before, I'd think that it wasn't worth playing. And it is.

Dang...didn't want to give that impression about me being unemotional! Oh man!

As for the review update, it's supposed to be read in its entirety. Note that I delete nothing from the original review...all of that still matters.

But the fact is, the weaknesses of this game have to be noted. There is a ceiling to skill in this game...beyond this ceiling is only luck.

In a way, I enjoy the game MORE now because now if I lose, I don't really mind as much because the luck involved is out of my hands and it is no slight on my own intelligence. In a a way I have more fun.

But I also know that it hasn't truly touched the deepest parts of my strategical mind...you know what I mean?

I mean, if you and I played Advance Wars, Bottle, you KNOW that the better strategist between us would win!! Luck? No way, dude!

And can you honestly say that luck plays no roll in grey games at ALL?? At ALL? Sorry, I'll have to disagree. The "skill-ceiling" may be higher in the grey game(as you might think...you know I disagree), but it's there.

Fact is, Bottle, you don't appreciate the gold game as I do and I don't appreciate the grey game as you do and therefore we'll never get much ground there.

Your criticism is duly noted and I added something at the end of the review with you in mind...but I added it because I too thought I may have come off too harshly.



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[Twelve]

I'm allowed to double-post in my own thread, especially if it's the 1200 POST!!! WOOHA! That number is MINE!!!


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[Bottle]

Originally posted by Twelve
I mean, if you and I played Advance Wars, Bottle, you KNOW that the better strategist between us would win!! Luck? No way, dude!

And can you honestly say that luck plays no roll in grey games at ALL?? At ALL? Sorry, I'll have to disagree. The "skill-ceiling" may be higher in the grey game(as you might think...you know I disagree), but it's there.

Fact is, Bottle, you don't appreciate the gold game as I do and I don't appreciate the grey game as you do and therefore we'll never get much ground there.

Your criticism is duly noted and I added something at the end of the review with you in mind...but I added it because I too thought I may have come off too harshly.



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Well 12, if you and I played Advance wars, I'd be complaining when a 58% only reduces a unit to 5. :)

Sure, luck plays a role in grey games. But it doesn't mean that the lucky player then always wins. As I said, good luck doesn't matter AS MUCH, because you don't have the firepower to exploit it quickly. The unlucky person can just retreat and heal up most of the time... and even when a lucky shot kills a unit, putting one person a unit up, a good player can overturn the deficit, even against the very best players, with some good play. Drawing an analogy with advance wars, would a battle be more strategic with all tanks, A-Airs and B copters, or with neotanks, bombers and missiles? One shot killing a unit is always going to make for a less strategic game.

I do appreciate the gold game, not as much as you maybe but still a lot. I don't feel you appreciate the grey game nearly as much. Still, that's your prerogative.

[dim]

Hey folks it has been a long time.
I e-mailed 12 and told him but since I have managed to get on the one computer at school that does not have this site blocked.
I am taking the chance to tell all of you goodbye and that I will miss you. I will try to come back if I ever can but unfortunately for the dimster not only has the school filter blocked both TAO and the Netjak.com homesite from me but dad has also added them to our home filter and done the same and Grandpas house.
I will try to sneak back when I can but until then I want you all to know I will remember you guys for a very long time.

P.S. As always even if I am not here anymore I will forever remain in my heart NETJAK-4-LIFE.

Best wishes to everyone Dimster.

[Jonspen]

*sniff* Remember me do my friend, those were jolly times with you...:(

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Bottle


Sure, luck plays a role in grey games. But it doesn't mean that the lucky player then always wins. As I said, good luck doesn't matter AS MUCH, because you don't have the firepower to exploit it quickly. The unlucky person can just retreat and heal up most of the time... and even when a lucky shot kills a unit, putting one person a unit up, a good player can overturn the deficit, even against the very best players, with some good play.



As far as I'm concerned, this just delays the fact that luck will play a role in the game eventually. You know how it is...if you manage to nail a scout from the front in an intense gold game, you've got a major advantage. Suppose your scout must retreat and moves into range so that ONLY a front scout shot will kill it. Then the enemy scout moves and and does just that.

But whatever...I still love this game.

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[Twelve]

Originally posted by dim
Hey folks it has been a long time.
I e-mailed 12 and told him but since I have managed to get on the one computer at school that does not have this site blocked.
I am taking the chance to tell all of you goodbye and that I will miss you. I will try to come back if I ever can but unfortunately for the dimster not only has the school filter blocked both TAO and the Netjak.com homesite from me but dad has also added them to our home filter and done the same and Grandpas house.
I will try to sneak back when I can but until then I want you all to know I will remember you guys for a very long time.

P.S. As always even if I am not here anymore I will forever remain in my heart NETJAK-4-LIFE.

Best wishes to everyone Dimster.

Dude...you got folks conspiring against you!!

Can you access Legends?

Dude, are you disobeying your folks NOW by posting this?

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[Jonspen]

Dude, don't go, don't leave we need you *rmembers already did the leaving speak 2 posts up* Ummm yea we all love this game 12. O_o

[WlfBane]

I don't

Ciao Dim, we had a good laugh ^_^

Peace

[Hugh Junit]

Ahhhh, man...
I'm really sorry to see you go, dim. You're like the ( big) little brother of netjak. We're all going to miss you.
I wish you the best with your schoolwork and football. Work hard at both.
Take care.
* slowly hands dim a Pepsi *
:cool:

[Hatchet Warrior]

it is sad to see you go dim, but have fun with what you do.

[Jonspen]

Originally posted by WlfBane
I don't

Ciao Dim, we had a good laugh ^_^

Peace

Well that is just you isn't it! ;)

[Jonspen]

This is a perfect place for 400th post!!!! wooh yea do that funky dance dum dum dum doo doo doo cant touch this wooooo

[Bottle]

Bah. Now I won't have anyon stalking me on the forum anymore. :(

Hope you manage to get back soon, dim.

[Jonspen]

Oh yes you do bottle :p I came back after 6 months for you baby! *hugs bottle* *kicked in balls* meh it happends.....

[Twelve]

I always wished that I could speak to Dim's folks. Let them know that playing videogames isn't totally unhealthy. Oh well.

As most of you well know, I'm currently living the dual existence of a movie-star and a bum. If I can ONLY manage to be good in Legends AND FPS at the same time(has anyone done this?) I would be happy.

It is a challenge that has certainly got my attention and has given me a new passion for this game. The pressure is on and I long to meet it.

Current Rating in Legends: 1526
Current Rating in Revelation: 875.

Lol...SOMETHING has got to give.

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[T3km4n]

What do you mean Dodici?

[Jonspen]

good in Legends AND FPS at the same time(has anyone done this?)

I do belive i have.

Great lakes rating :
1400

Legends :
1400

Yep after spending six months there i thought i might even my score out alittle bit here too. :p

[dim]

SSSHHHHHHH

Back for one more time yeah I am at the elementary school today doing volunteer stuff in the library. Now that I am no longer in AG I had to make a decision and I chose to spend lunch time at the elementarty school helping out in the Library.

I will never forget any of you and I have found a way past dads filter to make it to the game in the evenings. So perhaps with luck I shall see some of you every now and then.

Bottle I shall always stalk you sir.

Hey if anyone knows how to get past a filter to access the forums here please E-mail me at Artemisfowlgj@hotmail.com it would be mostly appreciated.

Forever FPS (Mirror Servers) and Netjak-4-Life. I hope you guys flawless those idiots over at Legends.

Sincerly the Dimster

P.S. Thanks for the Pepsi Hugh

[Jonspen]

I hope you guys flawless those idiots over at Legends.

Yep after spending six months there

*cough cough*

[Bottle]

Originally posted by Twelve
Current Rating in Legends: 1526
Current Rating in Revelation: 875.

Lol...SOMETHING has got to give.

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Make it Legends. 875 is not the sort of rating you'll want to show off when you're picked for the team. :)

[Jonspen]

I am a measly 810 :(

[Bottle]

1231. Having just MASSACRED wolfie's rush my my anti-rush. Amazing what a suicide dragon can do... two scouts and a cleric, and it still didn't get attacked :D

[bludhoundz]

Bottle's A-rush is a phenomenon...seriously. BTW - 1069 on rev.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Bottle
Make it Legends. 875 is not the sort of rating you'll want to show off when you're picked for the team. :)

Don't worry, the Legenders who will face me will KNOW that I'm no joke. I'm their bane. :)

And my luck will turn in Revelation. Every game I've played there has been tight and would have turned if the fates gave me even one more block or a first move. The tides WILL turn.

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[bludhoundz]

Originally posted by Twelve
I'm their bane. :)
The tides WILL turn.
12

Nicely said :p
Edit : I actually didn't mean it like this...I meant "nice way to say 'go fps'", but it came out wrong :(

[Bottle]

Everyone gets spurts of bad luck. Mine just happened to be about 1000 games long. Now I actually get games where I'm the lucky one. :eek:

[Jonspen]

My luck just totally sucks....i get on with it though and hope it comes back. O_O

[Catra]

Just think of it as at least you are getting the bad luck out of your system now!

Anyway, I missed my 300th post here, so this is the special 301!

[Jonspen]

Will do :p And woot woot on 300! :D

[Twelve]

Jon...your banner is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too big. Even mine is pushing it, but yours....


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[Bottle]

Whoa 12, you were on at 3am this morning? Aren't you in the wrong clan for that? :p ;)

[Twelve]

I'm certainly no Strategic Insomniac, that's for sure.

But the forum clock is off by about 5 hours...I wrote that at around 8 am, actually.

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[Bottle]

Hmm. What time is it for you now? Because according to my clock, you wrote that at 3.17. Even time differences and the forum clock being an hour out don't make that 8am...

[Twelve]

Look. This post I'm writing now is being written at 11:08 am.

Now let's see what time it says at the end of my post.


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Edit: It says 9:40am, even AFTER I just went and adjusted my time zone settings. Trust me, the forum clock here is jacked.


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[Jeffery]

The forum clock is off about an hour and a half or so. Even registering it as an eastern time zone, it stay off by a fraction of an hour.

The forums say it's time is -5 GMT, which is also Eastern Standard Time in the USA, which is here I live.
Time : 5:46am
Forum Time: 4:16am

[Bottle]

Ok, 1 hour 30 for the forum clock being off, and 1 hour's time difference. That still makes 3.17 am into 6 am. Not 8 am. Early morning, or late night? :)

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Bottle
Ok, 1 hour 30 for the forum clock being off, and 1 hour's time difference. That still makes 3.17 am into 6 am. Not 8 am. Early morning, or late night? :)

Nosy people.... :p

Early morning. I'm trying to get my stupid sleeping cycle back from playing TAO last week WAY to late for me to even be effective.

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[bludhoundz]

EST is - 3 hr 30 minutes...and theres a setting for it, but its still off for me.

Edit : Wait, no it isn't, its on perfectly.

[search66]

It's funny how threads can run wild like crackheads.

[DuBious]

I suppose that happens when it's dominated BY crackheads. :D ;)

[Hugh Junit]

This is a crack-free thread.
Why would anyone pollute themselves with that shite? We should treat our bodies like temples.
I , for one, would NEVER poison myself wi......

* notices beer on desk and slowly reaches *

[Twelve]

Originally posted by search66
It's funny how threads can run wild like crackheads.

I can't believe the man second in charge of clan [netjak.com] finally wrote in this thread! A minor dream of mine has been fulfilled!!

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[***Duo***]

Originally posted by Twelve
I can't believe the man second in charge of clan [netjak.com] finally wrote in this thread! A minor dream of mine has been fulfilled!!

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Wow 12...I thought that might be a major dream...how many dreams do you have? :p :)


-Duo

[Twelve]

Originally posted by ***Duo***
Wow 12...I thought that might be a major dream...how many dreams do you have? :p :)


-Duo

:)

Not many anymore, I admit. :)

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[***Duo***]

Originally posted by Twelve
:)

Not many anymore, I admit. :)

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Besides being the best internet gamer alive?


-Duo :cool:

[Twelve]

I like to flatter myself into already thinking that this is more of a reality then a dream(as long as I don't have to play anybody past midnight...like I said, I'm not a Strategic Insomniac).


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[nomar]

Originally posted by Twelve
I can't believe the man second in charge of clan [netjak.com] finally wrote in this thread! A minor dream of mine has been fulfilled!!

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You have dreams with 66 in it???

[Bottle]

Originally posted by ***Duo***
the best internet gamer alive?


-Duo :cool:

Yes? You called?

[Twelve]

Originally posted by nomar
You have dreams with 66 in it???

Nomar, please keep your homoerotic tendencies out of this thread. :)


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[nomar]

How did you know 12. I have always dreamed of you and I running through a feild of daisey's!!!!