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max2k106
08-12-2005, 04:00 PM
I recently neg repped a member of our forums because I disagreed with what he was saying. He negged me back with a message: You negged me for no reason. My post was on point and it was not offensive. Our opinions differ, that is all. Did I really neg rep this user for no reason? Let's explore this . . .

When do you pos rep someone?
You pos rep someone in several situations. For example, when you agree with someone's post, when it brings you laughter, when you feel that they are doing the right thing, or when you're just going on a rep spree. So positive rep is good.

Now . . .

When do you neg rep someone?
Negative is the opposite of positive. Therefore, neg repping someone should be for reasons that are the opposites of positively repping someone. For example, when you don't agree with someone's post, when you find the humor to be offensive, when you feel that they are doing the wrong thing, or--once again--when you're just going on a rep spree. Negative rep, is obviously bad.

If you use this reasoning, I neg repped him for a valid reason.

Now, spreading reputation around is a right every member of this community has. If someone feels they can neg or pos rep someone, they should do it. This is how I felt when I neg repped the user I quoted previously. His neg rep response stated that he did not deserve to be neg repped and that his posts were on point and not offensive. So this user is implying that if a user posts messages that are off point and are offensive, they deserve to be neg repped. However, the exact opposite of that: if a user posts message that are on point and are not offensive . . . what then? Should they be pos repped? If so, every member of this community would certaintly have more rep points than they do now.

I'm guessing that every member of this community who has repped others has given much more positive rep than negative rep. Why is that? Is it because they ignore the bad posts? Possibly . . . Maybe it's because they don't feel the 5 seconds it would take to negatively rep a user is worth their time. But if someone feels strongly about something and believes it's worth their time to neg rep the user for whatever reason, why shouldn't they?

Most newer users with fewer posts and reputation points are afraid of neg repping someone because they fear the consequences of it. They fear the neg rep that may come in return. Obviously, this isn't right, but what can be done?

When should neg rep be given? I think there should never be a set code for rep. Rep whoever you want, whenever you want, for whatever reason you want . . .

Glamdring
08-12-2005, 04:04 PM
Including "because he negged me"?

Your logic is logical, but that doesn't really make it good. You forget that people quite often pos as a response to a pos that they got. So the one who negged you also did nothing wrong.

I just disagree is all.

max2k106
08-12-2005, 04:05 PM
Of course he did nothing wrong. It is his right to neg rep me when he wants. It is a bit childish though . . .

Jonspen
08-12-2005, 04:08 PM
I actually agree with you max, but life is unfair.

meat.eater
08-12-2005, 04:09 PM
I dont neg people. Makes life easier. Plus i think the neg rep system is bad. If i disagree, i send or fined offensive, i pm or let them know in the thread.

Best to be positive anyways.

imagination
08-12-2005, 04:22 PM
lowest rep to post so far: i think that if you want to neg someone then go ahead. they had to do something that made you want to neg them so why dont you? i mean dont neg people for no good reason but still if the thought of negging then comes up then there is some controversy. i have negged people with much much higher reps then me and i have yet to get a revenge rep.
as far as pos sprees go i think its not right. all it is is just boosting you little circle of "friends" and then they boost you back. wow, how kool is that, now both of your reputations are bs. same goes with neg repping everyone you dont like just because you dont like them.
neg when a post is worth negging and pos when a post is worth pos ing :eek: :bigsmile: isnt that logic amazing?

Matt 34.5
08-12-2005, 05:02 PM
I've only ever givin out about 5 rep's, and they were all positive. But I only give out pos rep's when I strongly beleive the post diserved it. Basicly, I will give a good rep to a post that has increased how Highly I see a person, and I will give a neg rep only when a post has decreased how highly I see a person. So if I dont know the person, I cant realy drop their rep with a neg rep, because it cant get lower than Unknown.. This is why most of mine are positive, and this is also how I feel about how rep's should be done.

Volcom
08-12-2005, 05:26 PM
I dont neg people. Makes life easier. Plus i think the neg rep system is bad. If i disagree, i send or fined offensive, i pm or let them know in the thread.

I only NEG if i found it offensive ...and state that u found it offensive, thats all rite.... in my oppinion....
if u recive a "revenge" neg then PM, and Flame it up...
thats what i do :rolleyes:

The Exile
08-12-2005, 05:56 PM
Oh no, I lost a couple of rep points!

Excuse me while I go and shoot myself.

:rolleyes:

When is it right to neg rep? When somebody makes a stupid post. There is no other reason to do so. Just because your opinions differ, it doesn't mean you need to neg someone.

roody poo
08-12-2005, 06:05 PM
When is it right to neg rep? When somebody makes a stupid post. There is no other reason to do so. Just because your opinions differ, it doesn't mean you need to neg someone.

I only neg rep when the person is a complete idiot. Points I think are stupid or disagree with I usually flame, however when that person is in your clan and you are trying to take it easy on them, a neg rep seems the only way to politely say that was pretty lame dude.

*nudge nudge meat*

Hoolwath
08-12-2005, 06:07 PM
When I neg someone, its always for a good reason - excluding Thash, I tell them to feel free to neg me back if they think its appropriate. I rahter discuss stuff via pms anyway.

I actually laughed at me when I negged Thash saying. "Just Spreading around some reputation."

And meat, you could try to discuss stuff via PMs more than posting in a thread. Someone could find being called a prick in public a bit offensive. :)

CRX687
08-12-2005, 06:15 PM
I neg when i don't like a post... simple as that...

Moose
08-12-2005, 06:29 PM
Coming from me who started a thread a couple of months ago, got catra angry with dirka, and eventually Xerent banning Dirka for spamming up the thread :p.


I can safely say that the neg rep is just another tool to make yourself either:

a) Feel better about yourself and make it seem like others are worse then you

b) Just asking to be neg repped back when you give out negative feedback.

c) A way of taking things out of context and entitling yourself to be mean

d) No purpose at all, it's just their to push when you get bored.

or last but not least

e) The greatest dare of all when you step up to negging Jeffery ;).


hmm, I shouldn't have said that, Jeffery is watching...ACKKK!!!


*Jumps into a bush*

Warcow
08-12-2005, 06:31 PM
When is it right to neg rep?

Whenever Dirka is/was involved?

Moose
08-12-2005, 06:35 PM
Whenever Dirka is/was involved?

It's amazing how his rep count was high though.

Hoolwath
08-12-2005, 06:35 PM
Max, I think Crx negs more than poses here. :)

Realist
08-12-2005, 06:50 PM
Whenever you want, for whatever reason you want. A rep is a personal statement, an expression of self, an individual creation, to be deliberately crafted or impulsively meted; it is your own; your hammer, your chisel, your paintbrush, your sword; yours to do with as you choose.

Wayfaerer
08-12-2005, 06:55 PM
Whenever Dirka is/was involved?
I thought you were his mentor!

22woger22
08-12-2005, 07:03 PM
Whenever you want, for whatever reason you want. A rep is a personal statement, an expression of self, an individual creation, to be deliberately crafted or impulsively meted; it is your own; your hammer, your chisel, your paintbrush, your sword; yours to do with as you choose.
Realist is a living, walking dictionary. Right on.

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banditto
08-12-2005, 07:22 PM
I like the rep system. I like alot of the members on the forums. I enjoy getting pos. rep.

The last time I got a neg rep It was from an unknown person (Who I think I know but won't name) because in the thread where you describe someone by their name, I said that they like to cheat. Well I know you can guess who, but I did not mean it to offend the person, and because we are on the internet someones intention is not always clear so it makes it hard to understand what someone means some times because everyone is biased.

22woger22
08-12-2005, 07:26 PM
I enjoy getting pos. rep.
Cool, I do too!

I don't know about anyone else though :wink2:.

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banditto
08-12-2005, 07:29 PM
Im pretty sure its just us :p. And maybe some other people, but they might want to remain anonymous.

(Mystery Reps)

Lonely Tylenol
08-12-2005, 07:41 PM
I'd rather people neg-repped me, to be honest...

Oh, sure, having a bunch of green boxes (including funny neon-green boxes) is nice, and they're fun to look at... But then you get all these people asking you to rep them, and hassling you, and so on/so forth... :dry:

Two or three rep boxes is more than enough, thanks very muchly.

As for when to neg-rep: Same as pos rep... Whenever and however you damn well please!

~Tylenol

roody poo
08-12-2005, 08:46 PM
But then you get all these people asking you to rep them, and hassling you, and so on/so forth... :dry:
~Tylenol

I think I've been asked twice. Peeps around here must just know better. :unsure:

Coffin Fedder
08-12-2005, 08:48 PM
tyleonl does have a point I god negged for double posting....... :eek:

Pinkie TDP
08-12-2005, 09:29 PM
I don't neg rep very often at all. For someone to get a neg from me, they really have to make an ass out of themselves. I've had many discussions, some relatively heated, yet I've never negged someone simply for having a different opinion than me.

If you're going to neg rep just because someone has a different opinion than you, just about every single post on these boards would get negged by someone because I'll guarantee there's someone who will disagree with almost every single position you can take on a topic. I don't think it's fair to neg rep for differing opinions as long as they are said tastefully and intelligently.

Lonely Tylenol
08-12-2005, 09:33 PM
Thanks for the rep, Realist. :)

10 down, 735 more to go!

max2k106
08-12-2005, 10:21 PM
DAMN! I was right on the money. I thought that 2 people would neg rep me saying something like "Now is the right time" . . . I was right :)

Thash500
08-12-2005, 10:31 PM
A group of same people neg repped me everytime.
Thats how I got my 3 boxes. :)

max2k106
08-12-2005, 10:38 PM
A group of same people neg repped me everytime.
Thats how I got my 3 boxes. :)
I neg rep you as much as I can. Not because I don't like you (I don't even know you) but just 'cause I wanna see you as the first with a bright red box.

Thash500
08-12-2005, 11:08 PM
What is the highest number of boxes you can get???
And what happens when you get like 11 red boxes???? :eek:

max2k106
08-12-2005, 11:12 PM
You'll be the first to know.

Thash500
08-12-2005, 11:16 PM
Dude, I dont wanna know........ :rolleyes:
Can a mod tell me???
What the boxes will look like or something??????

Lonely Tylenol
08-12-2005, 11:52 PM
Yay for neg-reps!

16 down, 729 to go!

Elentari
08-13-2005, 12:16 AM
I assume they will look like red boxes, thash.

CRX687
08-13-2005, 11:00 AM
Max, I think Crx negs more than poses here. :)

Pfft, Obviously, I need to keep the neg to pos/post ratio 2:1.

Plus, 90% of my neg reps result in a pos rep from the person repped. Cuz I'm just cool like that. :cool:

The Exile
08-13-2005, 11:16 AM
What is the highest number of boxes you can get???
And what happens when you get like 11 red boxes???? :eek:
Ask nads. I think he has about 8, doesn't he?

22woger22
08-13-2005, 04:57 PM
Ask nads. I think he has about 8, doesn't he?
But he doesn't have a light red one :(.

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Jonspen
08-13-2005, 06:27 PM
Pfft, Obviously, I need to keep the neg to pos/post ratio 2:1.

Plus, 90% of my neg reps result in a pos rep from the person repped. Cuz I'm just cool like that. :cool:

Well if I negged you about the Fry thing, people would bitch about me just doing it because you negged me. And I always thought we were cool, AND I wanted to explain to you non-publically and I am way to fat and lazy to send a pm.

Warcow
08-13-2005, 06:32 PM
I thought you were his mentor!

I fought with Dirka more than anyone, He was even the only real poster to make my ignore list. There was going to be another, but apparently you can't ignore certain people :dry:

He kept saying how much I taught him but . . . Judging by his behaviour at the end, either he was lying, or I was not teaching anything worth listening too.

Lordofzrings
08-14-2005, 12:48 AM
i negative rep only people that Bash newbies, who the hell cares if i get negative repped back, big deal, my boxes are red, i hate this rep system...

h()()t
08-14-2005, 09:36 AM
it is right to neg retarded idots. If they are acting like retards, neg them, then neg them again just so that everyone knows that they arnt liked, have youg uys noticed ther eis a alarming amount of increesing red boxes, its like there becoming a fad...

MokoToko
08-14-2005, 09:54 AM
it is right to neg retarded idots. If they are acting like retards, neg them, then neg them again just so that everyone knows that they arnt liked, have youg uys noticed ther eis a alarming amount of increesing red boxes, its like there becoming a fad...

by retarded you don't happen to mean having many mispellings in a post...do you?

max2k106
08-14-2005, 01:50 PM
But he doesn't have a light red one :(.

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No . . . that's just his avvy

Warcow
08-14-2005, 02:20 PM
On a side note, is anyone else madly in love with max and his insanely hot shredding that he does in his siggy?

If you haven't listened to it yet, do so, he will blow your mind.

Jonspen
08-14-2005, 03:22 PM
by retarded you don't happen to mean having many mispellings in a post...do you?

Ouch.

Matt 34.5
08-14-2005, 04:32 PM
"When is it right to neg rep?"
see 3 newist army threads for details.

necro
08-14-2005, 05:24 PM
I say we all possitive rep everyone 13 times each member of the forums...FEEL GOOD FUZZIES ALL AROUND!!!

Blexican
08-15-2005, 07:17 PM
Okay heres my sittuation.

It all started on the Womens thread.

Hydrant said she wants to ridde motorcycles.

Cheat says So you like to ride things huh? I see......

Then i said Uhh this is pg-13 stuff, what are you doing here cheat?

Cheat saidI'm 17 just your info but i'm still out. *wanders out yet again*

So I bad repped him because he can't take a joke but he can give jokes what kind of philosophy.

Then he reps me back and says

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/610/cheatrep2lw.png

so he doesnt like that i repped him that way so he goes back and then does the exact thing he hates to someone else? I say practice what you preach

I say lets all give a warm helping of red for cheat.

banditto
08-15-2005, 07:37 PM
Thats not the first time he is a hypocrite and neg reps someone like that... He did it to me too...

Blexican
08-16-2005, 04:03 PM
Im just pointing out that im not just taking stuff anymore i guess, Im starting to step up, thanks for reading banditto.

_Thunder_
08-16-2005, 04:31 PM
I give out neg rep where neg rep is due. Thats my see on this, and im sorry max, and blex and whoever got neg repped for no reason.

psychofireman
08-16-2005, 09:10 PM
it's kinda pointless to give out neg rep i feel, i mean after all, thesy boxes don't do anything to agffect how people really view you

banditto
08-16-2005, 09:50 PM
But its nice to have, and alot of the time, I get neg repped by a n00b that I flamed. I only give out neg reps to anyone who really beyond doubt is being so dumb, after being warned like 10 times. And I also at least have the guts to sign it.

22woger22
08-18-2005, 02:33 AM
it's kinda pointless to give out neg rep i feel, i mean after all, thesy boxes don't do anything to agffect how people really view you
Sometimes they do. I find that people seem to pos rep you JUST because you have a very high reputation. When I had 1 or 2 boxes, I got a rep (could be a neg or a pos) every five days or so. Now I seem to attract a pos rep (and usually more) every day. Maybe people finally notice you when you have these shiny green boxes?

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CRX687
08-23-2005, 10:28 PM
Why do ppl keep PMing me after I neg them?!

I'm adding one more thing that will get a guaranteed neg from me... IF YOU SPAM MY INBOX WITH A POINTLESS QUESTION ABOUT A REP I SENT OUT, YOU WILL GET ON MY PERMA-CHUMP LIST (alongside thash, gangbang, and the rest of the JW nubs)!. :mad:

I HATE deleting messages...

Jeffery
08-23-2005, 10:30 PM
I don;t mind if they have an actual question. It;s just the ones that want to whine that bug me.

CRX687
08-23-2005, 10:33 PM
I don;t mind if they have an actual question. It;s just the ones that want to whine that bug me.


the "questions" I get are always the same...

"Hey man, what's up with the neg rep? All I did was [insert something dumb here]"

Jeffery
08-23-2005, 10:35 PM
Then you need to explain your reps better when you give them. ;)

CRX687
08-23-2005, 10:40 PM
Then you need to explain your reps better when you give them. ;)

pfft, why would I waste my time explaining myself in detail to the poster when I don't like a post?

As far as I'm concerned, if they don't like my explanation, or can't understand it, they deserve another neg.