Twelve's Invincible Anti-Grey Formation Competition

[roody poo]

I have been given the reputation of being a skilled furgon user and I have never lost to a gray. Never plan on it either. :)

Same.

I never used a furgon as a gold, and I never lost to a grey. However I've beaten many golds with the default grey. Never played 12's form though.

[Lonely Tylenol]

Same.

I never used a furgon as a gold, and I never lost to a grey.

Hard to refute that logic.

:eek:

[Hatchet Warrior]

twelve, want to start off where we left off last time or restart that game?

[Twelve]

Aren't you retired?

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[Hatchet Warrior]

Yes, but I can still visit every so often.

[rpgdemon]

Hey Ill play you. I may not win but Ill still try :) . Btw when grey accounts are wiped will we be reentered into the clan? Because I was in a clan then wiped then never got reinvited...so Im just making sure I will be this time...

[The Exile]

READ THE THREAD, GENIUS.

This finished about 2 weeks ago.

[Twelve]

I can't even tell you how many people still ask to play this formation. I even got called out a few times in Legends. Funny stuff.

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[Hatchet Warrior]

We still have to finish our game :D

[monkus]

Heh, I should whip out my 10 witches and take it on. That'd be fun.

[Hatchet Warrior]

I think you would still lose.

[KBHoleN1]

Heh, I should whip out my 10 inches and take it off. That'd be fun.
Can't we reserve that talk for a private chat, I mean seriously :rolleyes:

[Dragoen Link]

Can't you reserve that talk for me in private, I mean seriously :rolleyes:

Ewww.... :cool:

[ghost Dragon]

hasnt it been beaten yet??? if not il take it on

[Mithrandir]

It's been beaten.

[Hatchet Warrior]

by a legender.

[BigTimeNoob]

there was a grey that i played who had 6 witches.... he completely fried my turtle... and i don't think your setup can survive a similar DMW rush

greys with more than 2 DMW are rare.... of course

[Jonspen]

It's been beaten.


^Beat it

[Hatchet Warrior]

Maybe I should show you the formation.

[bloodymoon]

Did u really beat crx and allstar with it?
If u did i gotta give u a pat on the back?

Also i saw u had the setup for a year and a half, so u mastered it, i dont think anyone else can.

[Twelve]

Did u really beat crx and allstar with it?
If u did i gotta give u a pat on the back?



All the evidence is posted, good man.

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[iceman2001]

In order to make the claim that your form is invincible to greys, I think it might have to go undergo a more radical testing. I have seen screen shots of your form (they might have been wrong), and think it might be beatable, given the following two conditions:
1) A grey goes into the game knowing your exact formation, including which side its on
2) The grey gets first move.

It might be more interesting if you incorporated these two conditions into any future matches...

That being said, eventually I'd like a crack at it

[KBHoleN1]

In order to make the claim that your form is invincible to greys, I think it might have to go undergo a more radical testing. I have seen screen shots of your form (they might have been wrong), and think it might be beatable, given the following two conditions:
1) A grey goes into the game knowing your exact formation, including which side its on
2) The grey gets first move.

It might be more interesting if you incorporated these two conditions into any future matches...

That being said, eventually I'd like a crack at it
Read much? Actually try sometime before you go bumping threads back up to the top. It has been beaten. 12 held a set of matches where he advertised the form, it was up to luck about sameside and first turn. He lost on the 13th match, to Mithrandir, who got same side and first turn. 12 accomplished his goal of having it beaten (finally), albeit by a tailored form and a bit of luck.

To recap - learn to read threads before you post in them. This is about the 5th time this thread has been bumped by someone "wanting a crack at it." Even reading the last page would have told you it was beaten - seriously, show some effort here.

[OmegaShin]

That form is far from being unbeatable for a grey. I don't see what's the point in even fearing loss to a fps grey that doesn't have mud.... just play turtle and you are really unbeatable.

[Twelve]

That form is far from being unbeatable for a grey. I don't see what's the point in even fearing loss to a fps grey that doesn't have mud.... just play turtle and you are really unbeatable.

Kb, this guy didn't even read the latest post in the thread before posting...you think people actually have the gumption to read an entire thread??? Come now...we're expecting too much from folks!!! lol

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[OmegaShin]

I was just pointing out there's no point in even talking about unbeatable gold vs grey forms on a server where greys can't have furgons muds and frosts. Any elite gold turtler making a turtle especially designed to beat greys is actually unbeatable and i am sure bottle agrees with me on this one.

[Twelve]

I was just pointing out there's no point in even talking about unbeatable gold vs grey forms on a server where greys can't have furgons muds and frosts. Any elite gold turtler making a turtle especially designed to beat greys is actually unbeatable and i am sure bottle agrees with me on this one.

Another sentiment already posted in this thread, if you had read it.

What is it about this thread that makes people comment on it and NOT read it? Sheesh.

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[iceman2001]

I'm sorry, but I don't see how I deserved negative rep on that one. The last page only stated the following:

All the evidence is posted, good man.
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Secondly, I did in fact read the previous four pages before posting. The only evidence of it being beaten was Mith saying "It has been beated" Followed by hatch saying "By a legender" I think there's a major difference between an fps and a legender beating the form... Anyway my mistake, but jesus you guys are harsh.

[CRATER]

I think there's a major difference between an fps and a legender beating the form...

Is there, can you tell me the difference between the no drop FPS grey and a no drop legends grey? THINK before you speak.

[iceman2001]

The post by hatch didn't specify a no drops grey...therefore I didn't assume so

[CRATER]

He commented that a "legender"(someone that plays on Legends) played against the form and won.
Now, there were no rules about what units you could use but, the invitation to play was on Army with a grey. Legends units were ot even in the equation.

[Twelve]

Hey people! Guess what! Cr8 read the thread before posting! Let's give him a round of applause!

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[Squidiot!]

12, i want to try :)

[Mithrandir]

I still don't understand why more people haven't tried something similar. I want to see one of these by a gold that uses a furgy.

[Lonely Tylenol]

I would do it, but I've already LOST to greys. :yes3: There is no fame in doing what others have done before you. Twelve had the distinct benefit of being undefeated against greys, but I've lost to three. (In my defense, that's a very tiny sliver in comparison to the golds I've beaten with greys!)

[iceman2001]

You guys should neg rep LT, since he obviously didn't read the 26 pages above to figure out that 12 isnt undefeated :mad:

Edit: 20 pages above

[Mithrandir]

Twelve WAS undefeated before this tournament, which is LT's point. Twelve could start a tournament like this because he was undefeated, something LT can't claim.

[Twelve]

I still don't understand why more people haven't tried something similar. I want to see one of these by a gold that uses a furgy.


Word. I would love to see some of these people who make these claims win 12 straight games, formation revealed, with screenshots.

No, I never lost to a grey in FPS until Mith. But Mith is no longer the only, as Emerald Slasher beat me on a night a couple of days later in which I was VERY tired (and had no business playing). But it wasn't with THIS formation.

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[Mithrandir]

Come on y'all, you don't even need to offer a monetary prize, just set up your own unbeatable formation and let others try for the sport of it. ONE of you people that seem to think you'd have a better strategy ought to give it a shot.

[22woger22]

You guys should neg rep LT, since he obviously didn't read the 26 pages above to figure out that 12 isnt undefeated :mad:

Edit: 20 pages above
That being said, eventually I'd like a crack at it
A perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black.

Or the soldier retreating 50 steps laughing at the soldier retreating 100 steps. :)

[GreenS@murai!]

I wanna play against this formation! Im kinda late and I havent played in a while but im always up for a challenge.

[The Exile]

No one's beaten my Invisible Anti-Everything Formation yet. :)

[bludhoundz]

Post a screeny and I assure you I will :cool:

[22woger22]

Post a screeny and I assure you I will :cool:
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3482/invisible25dy.jpg

Just give Exiled a link to some new Star Trek gossip mid-way into the game, and he should run out of time for his turn shortly after discovering Spock is actually gay. ;)

[The Exile]

Post a screeny and I assure you I will :cool:
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3482/invisible25dy.jpg
Good luck. :cool:

[BlackSyphon]

i can do better ps work :p

du

[Lonely Tylenol]

I almost beat Mith as a grey when he used this formation, but he got a side DSM save and some lucky hits on my Scout and after that there was nothing left to do but pick up the pieces...

I did of course use my normal formation and all that crap.

I think if 12 were to ever bring this thing out of retirement, I might have a chance. Mith isn't the original user of the set, and would most likely be out of his element, but he still gave me a feel for how it would work, and I think I could get the rest.

[Mithrandir]

For the record, I was WAY beyond out of my element in trying to use that thing. I barely beat LT with it and only because of a lot of luck. On the other hand, using Bottle's no drop grey formation soundly beat him in a grey vs grey match (even though I hadn't played one in months). In other words, I did better against LT with a grey set I was comfortable with then with what is believed by some to be the greatest gold anti-grey formation ever.

[Lonely Tylenol]

For the record, I was WAY beyond out of my element in trying to use that thing. I barely beat LT with it and only because of a lot of luck. On the other hand, using Bottle's no drop grey formation soundly beat him in a grey vs grey match (even though I hadn't played one in months). In other words, I did better against LT with a grey set I was comfortable with then with what is believed by some to be the greatest gold anti-grey formation ever.

:o I guess you could put it that way... But the match still gave me a feel for how it would work. Since most grey formations have only one or two ranged attackers (Witch + Scout), and if they have more they are rarely well-protected, a stoned and powered Dragonspeaker and Pyromancer would make quick work of a few fragile ranged attackers. After that, you can either chip away at your opponents' remaining units or wait until they come to you, freeze + terminate, and make quick work of your opponent.

That's the basic opinion I got of it at least.

[allstarGL]

I wouldn/t mind doing one of these tournies. I am yet to see a grey beat my new rush form. I personally dont think you can do it. I've only ever lost to one grey in my whole time being gold and that was a side assasin block that led to my dragon and knight being blown up.(I know I shouldn't have let that happen). I might try one of these tournys one day when things aren;t soo busy and I'm bored.

[ryan56]

Ok, im to lazy to read the last 20 pages. So, has anyone beat you yet 12? If not i would like to give it a try.

[allstarGL]

TWELVE LOST TO MITHRANDIR IN UNLUCKY MATCH #13

[Lonely Tylenol]

I'd rather grey rush your old spread rush, allstar. I'm a fan of that set. :)

[allstarGL]

I'd rather grey rush your old spread rush, allstar. I'm a fan of that set. :)
do you think a grey could beat that form? I really would be amazed to see that.

[Lonely Tylenol]

I am by no means the best grey in TAO, but I'd love to give it a shot sometime.

[Ahonuss]

Wow...so it was beaten eh....crazy ;)

[Twelve]

TWELVE LOST TO MITHRANDIR IN UNLUCKY MATCH #13

Yeah, as much as I like this thread, I hate having to see THIS repeated over and over...lol.

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[Mithrandir]

Yeah, as much as I like this thread, I hate having to see THIS repeated over and over...lol.

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lol.

If you haven't already, you should update the first post of this thread. Maybe we'll see fewer people post declaring they want to try to beat your formation.

[Twelve]

Done. How about that?

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[wolf-boy]

Mith, did you get your $20?

[Mithrandir]

Done. How about that?
Only time will tell.
Mith, did you get your $20?
Yep.

[Twelve]

Mith, did you get your $20?

Pfff! What kind of question is that? I'm nothing without my word.

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[Mithrandir]

Pfff! What kind of question is that? I'm nothing without my word.

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Don't read too much into his question. Some of the most trustworthy people I know are also the most forgetful people I know.

[allstarGL]

Yeah, as much as I like this thread, I hate having to see THIS repeated over and over...lol.

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I thought maybe by putting it in giant blue lettering people would take a hint...