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Faulty Logic
09-17-2005, 11:20 AM
Now, i know there has been a lot of hating going on, and i would like to post a disclaimer before any one gets heated.

I am a white 14 year old, whos views are not influenced by any political party, i disagree with many things Bush has done but he is our president and we gotta deal.

New Orleans was doomed from the start, a Oceanographer (Sp?) sent in an E-mail detailing the storm, however, because of the beuracracy that we live in they could not take "affirmative action" until the information was cleared.
Unfortunately the Information was proven right by the Hurricane.

I do believe FEMA (Sp?) dropped the ball, and its a good thing that dude whats-his-face resigned. I dont think the delay in action was a DIRECT result to the fact of black people. I believe because of the regulations set up, our government cannot act promptly to any circumstancial info, with out consent.

Like wise, our government is a RECTIONARY one. We are never preemptive and all we do is react to situations. That being said, there are many things the FEDERAL gov. could have done.
1) funding was stopped for the levees.
2) listen to the people of New Orleans,
3) have a response team immediatly ready for evacuation if things turn south.

Granted all of these, cost money and man power and we cant do this for every hurricane.

NO MATTER WHAT HIND SIGHT IS ALWAYS 20/20

The state Gov. should have also had a detailed plan ready, i think we have all see the pic. of school buses in the parking lot surrounde by water instead of helping evacuate. No action was taken, and instead of admitting MATURE people played the name game.

now, i DESPISE the media due to the labeling of "looting" by blacks " and scavenging or finding" by whites, i myself am white and i am appalled at the response and spin the media has put.

---i would right more but im going to a suprise birthday party for my GF,

---please reply!!
-Faulty Logic

Faulty Logic
09-17-2005, 11:24 AM
reserved for later post.

--Faulty Logic

Jeffery
09-17-2005, 11:47 AM
You could have just put this with everyone elses opinions on this in the Katrina thread.

MallaLubba
09-17-2005, 11:57 AM
Ok, I'd like to pick this apart:
New Orleans was doomed from the start, a Oceanographer (Sp?) sent in an E-mail detailing the storm, however, because of the bureaucracy that we live in they could not take "affirmative action" until the information was cleared.
It wasn't an email. It was part of a confidential report sent via courier directly from the scientist who is on FEMA's payroll as an analyst and adviser. There was no need to "clear" the information. Ex-Director Whats-his-face with no analytical oceanographic knowledge didn't believe the report and questioned the validity of the study. Hence, no action was taken.
Like wise, our government is a REACTIONARY one. We are never preemptive and all we do is react to situations.
But the problem is: they are not a reactionary government. They are only reactionary when a preemptive solution is not in their interest. Saddam did not strike us, right? The whole thing was done because "we" believed he MAY have some weapons and he MIGHT use them, remember? It doesn't get much more preemptive than that.
Granted all of these, cost money and man power and we cant do this for every hurricane.
But, we can. We really really can. Hurricanes are not like earth quakes. We can see these things coming from miles away. We have days to prepare. Somebody in another thread mentioned that if all the people of New Orleans would have just started walking away when Katrina was in the gulf and listed as a 4 they would all be plenty safe. Now, wouldn't that be PLENTY of time to set up a proper "on-call" response? It doesn't take very much money or resources to call a whole lot of people and tell them to wait by their phones in case something bad happens.
The state Gov. should have also had a detailed plan ready, i think we have all see the pic. of school buses in the parking lot surrounded by water instead of helping evacuate. No action was taken, and instead of admitting MATURE people played the name game.
Now, I've said before that there wasn't a person in the chain that didn't screw up. However, FEMA informed all local organizations including state that their plan requires local agencies to "survive" for something like 3 days after a major disaster. Although, at day 3 most people were at a strain, the locals did their part to provide that 3 day survival. FEMA also stated that 3 days was an unlikely maximum. This infers that 3 days is an overestimate. Like I said locals and feds screwed up, but when an agency that is supposed to have an expertise in disaster control tells you that "3 days is more than plenty and we'll come get you" wouldn't you feel like you are as prepared as you'd need to be?
---i would right more but I'm going to a surprise birthday party for my GF,
Happy birthday.

HorNeT
09-17-2005, 12:16 PM
Ok, I'd like to pick this apart:

It wasn't an email. It was part of a confidential report sent via courier directly from the scientist who is on FEMA's payroll as an analyst and adviser. There was no need to "clear" the information. Ex-Director Whats-his-face with no analytical oceanographic knowledge didn't believe the report and questioned the validity of the study. Hence, no action was taken.

But the problem is: they are not a reactionary government. They are only reactionary when a preemptive solution is not in their interest. Saddam did not strike us, right? The whole thing was done because "we" believed he MAY have some weapons and he MIGHT use them, remember? It doesn't get much more preemptive than that.

But, we can. We really really can. Hurricanes are not like earth quakes. We can see these things coming from miles away. We have days to prepare. Somebody in another thread mentioned that if all the people of New Orleans would have just started walking away when Katrina was in the gulf and listed as a 4 they would all be plenty safe. Now, wouldn't that be PLENTY of time to set up a proper "on-call" response? It doesn't take very much money or resources to call a whole lot of people and tell them to wait by their phones in case something bad happens.

Now, I've said before that there wasn't a person in the chain that didn't screw up. However, FEMA informed all local organizations including state that their plan requires local agencies to "survive" for something like 3 days after a major disaster. Although, at day 3 most people were at a strain, the locals did their part to provide that 3 day survival. FEMA also stated that 3 days was an unlikely maximum. This infers that 3 days is an overestimate. Like I said locals and feds screwed up, but when an agency that is supposed to have an expertise in disaster control tells you that "3 days is more than plenty and we'll come get you" wouldn't you feel like you are as prepared as you'd need to be?

Happy birthday.
wow you type alot...

banditto
09-17-2005, 12:21 PM
I'm glad that a 14 year old kid who watches the discovery channel can come online to post some info he heard from a few nights ago, and claim it as his opinion.

Thank you for creating another unnesecary thread and I hope your party goes well.