View Full Version : {Idea}-Haga de Dios
Stinky Monkey
10-13-2005, 06:05 AM
Before you kiddies get all spam-dangled, thinking this is another god-unit post, calm down, take your hand(s) off your genitalia, and try to remember how to read and comprehend. Now, get ready...here comes a shocker, you might want to sit down...
This is not a unit post.
Are you alright? can we procede?... okay.
The will of god isn't a unit, even though it takes up a unit slot. It is, however, a unit modifier. Think of it as a buff. When in your setup screen, selecting your units, you place the "will of god" onto a unit. That unit now has the will of god. Please note that the will of god only applies to human units. Why would a pile of mud be influenced by the will of god?
What does that mean, your unit has the will of god? Well, a Human unit with the will of god is just like any other unit, but it's roughly twice as effective in battle(because the unit now takes up 2 unit slots, the unit itself and the will of god modifier).
-Note: Twice as EFFECTIVE does not mean twice as many STATS.
So, how do these units get to be twice as effective? Well, for all units, either:
their attack recovery is reduced by one(1). -Scout, Cleric, Mages,
their attack range is increased by one(1). -Enchantress,
Or they can attack with 0 recovery, meaning they can be used every turn.
-Melee Units, including Beast Rider
Also:
The will of god increases a unit's primary or most needed stat slightly.
Knights gain 5% armor
Scouts gain 1 range
Pyros, Dragonspeaker Mages gain 3 power
Clerics gain 20% armor
Enchantress, Assassins gain 1 movement
Beastriders gain 4 power
Witch increases range by 1 (5 cells or death)
I know most of you won't like it.. But frankly, I don't care. Don't expect me to modify this post, as it's likely my last one. I'm tired of this forum, I came back after 3 months and nothing has changed, it's all the same units over and over, noobs spamming their crap everywhere. So, this was my attempt to freshen it up. If you don't like the effects of the buff I made, feel free to keep the buff idea, and change it's effects, I don't care what you do with it.
Anyways, it's 4:05 AM here, i'm goin to sleep.
Cross Punisher
10-13-2005, 06:11 AM
The will of god increases a unit's primary or most needed stat slightly.
Knights gain 5% armor
Scouts gain 1 range
Pyros, Dragonspeaker Mages gain 3 power
Clerics gain 20% armor
Enchantress, Assassins gain 1 movement
Beastriders gain 4 power
Witch increases range by 1 (5 cells or death)
And how did you figure out that this is what each unit needs an improvement in stats in?
Hellblazer
10-13-2005, 06:28 AM
This unit is retarded. First of all, you didn't post stats. Second of all it's just a really lame attempt at a God unit with a bunch of random crap in the first paragraph.
Arsakon
10-13-2005, 11:36 AM
First of all, i don't think that such a minor enhanchment ist something I would use a unit-slot for.
Second, if you want to bitch in this forum, please wait for someone else to give you a reason and then bitch at him, like every one else.
Third, i wonder what the other enhanchments are... but as far as I read your units, none of them is woth walking into the game with one unit less, as even a bit stronger, these units certainly aren't worth 2 spaces.
Kamikazie-Bunny
10-13-2005, 12:13 PM
I for one LIKE the IDEA, personally i would like a unit of some form to become 'elite' though i think you need to rethink the enhancements to something more general remember most people defend their clerics and would probably prefer better healing powers... or not, can't be sure nowadays.
Personally I'd prefer something more general such as,
+50% Health
+10% Armour
+1 Range for ranged units e.g. Scout, Pyromancer, Enchantress, Etc.
+5 Power for non ranged units and the cleric e.g. Beast Rider, Cleric, Knight
+5% Blocking
+1 Recovery Time (minimum of one for attack)
It probably seems alot but remember its two units as one, and when it dies it will definatly affect moral.
No offence but you started this post complaining so its probably gonna die quickly, I thought of this idea my self but had no idea how to intergrate it into the game (good idea). So if its ok with you can I 'borrow' some aspects of your and create my own, 'unit'...
Kamikazie-Bunny, I'd prefer that you shut up
Kamikazie-Bunny
10-13-2005, 01:18 PM
I'd prefer it if some of the suggested units were created but i heven't seen any yet, I'd also prefer a much larger bank account And I'd also prefer an explanation with comments like that so NO I WILL NOT SHUT UP!!!
Sorry if I offened you, been one of those days...
theres a reason the stats are the way they are, let that be and think of somthing origional
Kamikazie-Bunny
10-13-2005, 01:36 PM
What type of stratergy do you prefer, Raging hoardes, Specialised Squads or Elite Units?
KBHoleN1
10-13-2005, 02:10 PM
Before you kiddies get all spam-dangled, thinking this is another god-unit post, calm down, take your hand(s) off your genitalia, and try to remember how to read and comprehend. Now, get ready...here comes a shocker, you might want to sit down...
Ohh, that's a great way to get people's attention, insult them. That way t
hey will be really interested in your unit. Anyone reading this is already turned off by your attitude.
This is not a unit post.
That's a big problem, seeing as how this is the Create-a-Unit forum, not the modify a unit forum, and almost everyone worthwhile will agree that changing existing units is not the goal of this forum.
Your idea actually has merit, but you started it the wrong way. It is a unit, you are creating one, so own up to it.
The will of god increases a unit's primary or most needed stat slightly.
Knights gain 5% armor
Scouts gain 1 range
Pyros, Dragonspeaker Mages gain 3 power
Clerics gain 20% armor
Enchantress, Assassins gain 1 movement
Beastriders gain 4 power
Witch increases range by 1 (5 cells or death)
I would have to agree with CP here, some of your improvements are not what I would want. I would say a knight would need an extra space of movement, not more armor. Some of the improvements make the units overpowered, like the 0 recovery for meleee units, while some of them don't really help at all. A scout with 7 range and 1 recovery? Holy shit ... This is why modifying units is usually a bad idea, as they are already well-balanced, with the exception of the newer gold units, which don't balance well with each other (meaning that used together, the GA, wisp, and muddy are far too overpowered compared to the rest of the units).
While one aspect of the game might merit losing a unit (like having an uber scout), it is still just one unit. Losing that unit means your advantage is completely gone. What if you beef up your cleric, then lose it to a knight rush, where extra armor doesn't stop it from dying? I don't see many people (many skilled people) using this unit, as there are already ways to compensate for deficiencies without sacrificing a unit slot.
I know most of you won't like it.. But frankly, I don't care. Don't expect me to modify this post, as it's likely my last one.
That's taking the easy way out and running off after you post your idea. You said you didn't like noobs spamming up the boards, and yet you are unwilling to listen to ideas or change your post to reflect the community's thoughts. That's just as bad as the noobs trying their first unit. You are far to stuck up, and you have no credentials. It seems like you put thought into your unit, but you put it in the wrong places. You were more worried about getting in one last flame than actually making a good unit. Pitiful.
No offence but you started this post complaining
More like bitching, so yes, I can't see this thread meaning much to anyone.
Kamikazie-Bunny, I'd prefer that you shut up
Was that necessary at all? What did he say that was so bad? He posted his opinion on the unit, and offered suggestions for improvement, like we are supposed to do. These are not the Kyir's Create-a-Unit Boards, they are the TAO Create-a-Unit boards, you don't like what gets posted, you can leave. Telling people to shut up only shows your immaturity. You have no reason to dislike his post, because he actually offered constructive criticism, unlike many of your posts. "The stats are the way they are for a reason so you can stfu!!!!" You sound like a noob who has no better argument than insulting someone. Since when are stats set in stone? Its his opinion for Christ's sake, just like the original stats were Stinky Monkey's. Take a chill pill dude.
"The stats are the way they are for a reason so you can stfu!!!!"Since when are stats set in stone? Its his opinion for Christ's sake, just like the original stats were Stinky Monkey's. Take a chill pill dude. ...
stfu >.<
KBHoleN1
10-13-2005, 02:21 PM
Real nice Kyir, thanks for the neg "I'll say whatever I want to say"
You really are an idiot, you know that? You flame anyone with even the slightest hint of intelligence because you're jealous they have a brain. I don't know how long I will remember this, but you will be negged from here until I forget.
If you think I care about howmuch rep I have.... you're wrong, go ahead, neg away
Kamikazie-Bunny
10-13-2005, 02:27 PM
If you think I care about howmuch rep I have.... you're wrong, go ahead, neg away
Translating through S**t-O'meter
I regularly boost my own rep using my second account.... the more you do it, the more i'll boost it
Grow up, you really have no idea what TAO's about do you.
how does that translate into boosting my rep?
If you think you know better then I do what TAO'sa bout, please enlighten me
KBHoleN1
10-13-2005, 02:30 PM
You know Kyir, the little green boxes are about more than numbers. I like rep, not because of the number, but because I think people approve of what I say. I actually care about other people's opinions, not because they rule my life, but because I try and have fun with the people I meet online. It's noobs like you that ruin this idea, because you refuse to listen to what other people have to say. I look at your green boxes and I think "overrated," because of instances like this. It's more about how you get them, not how many you have.
You know Kyir, the little green boxes are about more than numbers. I like rep, not because of the number, but because I think people approve of what I say. I actually care about other people's opinions, not because they rule my life, but because I try and have fun with the people I meet online. It's noobs like you that ruin this idea, because you refuse to listen to what other people have to say. I look at your green boxes and I think "overrated," because of instances like this. It's more about how you get them, not how many you have.
I listen, I dont have to agree though
KBHoleN1
10-13-2005, 02:33 PM
I listen, I dont have to agree though
Telling people to shut up because you don't agree with them defeats the purpose. Listening and hearing (or reading) aren't the same thing, listening involves thinking about what the other person said and respecting their opinion, no matter what it is. Just like your neg to me said, K-Bunny can "say whatever he wants." You contradict yourself within the span of 2 minutes.
nomar
10-13-2005, 02:35 PM
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stfu >.<
Very mature there kiddo. Please think before you post. Your ignorance isn't very enjoyable to read.
FryLock
10-13-2005, 02:41 PM
This "unit" is ridiculous, and so is this argument over rep / freedom of speech. Someone just needs to be the bigger man and walk away from it. Jeez.
WaCk-HeAd
10-13-2005, 02:43 PM
Lets talk about how much I rock.
ok, ok, Im sorry
Im really pissed at a few people right now (not anyone in the forum) and I just.... yeah
I shouldent be venting it in this forum... so, sorry
The Exile
10-13-2005, 02:47 PM
ok, ok, Im sorry
Im really pissed at a few people right now (not anyone in the forum) and I just.... yeah
I shouldent be venting it in this forum... so, sorry
Oh, so you've started getting your neg bomb from the netjak crew, have you? :wink2:
legacy67
10-13-2005, 02:48 PM
Ok first off, while Kyir doesn't always say things with grace, he is an intlliegent member of the CAU community. He has designed some good units, he sat for a while on the Certification Comittee, and he often has the right idea when he makes comments on units, even if his choice of words isn't always appropriate.
Whoever started this thread (I read so much smack talk that I forgot the name) probably shouldn't have peppered his post with insults. If he had looked at the units that were made gold (and platinum) in the last 2 months, he would have seen some cool and unique designs. Unfortunately he limited his view to a few poorly designed units. I am also not apt to take criticism of the entire CAU community seriously from a guy who has only made 125 posts in 2 years.
On the unit itself, yes I can see why some people would want a "god" or "champion" unit. It would be cool to have a knight that could beat the living hell out of anything or a scout with more range, but a cool idea doesn't denote a good idea. First off, check the guidelines for the forum, it says not unit upgrades. A unit upgrade is not original. The poster flames us for "newb" ideas and posts then he posts an upgrade.
The stats are the way they are for a reason. If you create "boosted" units then the entire game suddenly revolves around your "champion" and not the entire team. The currently desgined units are well balanced and fine the way they are, there is no need for change to those. Even if you designed a unit that "upgraded" units perfectly, I would still vote against it because of both originality and because it would change the focus of the game in a negative way.
WaCk-HeAd
10-13-2005, 02:50 PM
ok, ok, Im sorry
Im really pissed at a few people right now (not anyone in the forum) and I just.... yeah
I shouldent be venting it in this forum... so, sorry
Dude, I'm so going to hold this against you. You didn't even say ONE word on the matter at hand, my greatness.
Dude, I'm so going to hold this against you. You didn't even say ONE word on the matter at hand, my greatness.
thats not nice :(
Walrus
10-13-2005, 03:19 PM
lets all just calm down. (http://www.trimpe.org/jr/pictures/dramallama.jpg)
Poop Slinger
10-13-2005, 03:43 PM
The Unit Idea Rocks.. No papers.. okay maybe Scissors.... Actually I think Stinky Monkey's (no family relationship) original post is well done.. Critics the morons to get them ready to neg.. which they've done..
Explains his unit choice very well.. whether liked or not.. (which actually i like, I wouldn't call it will of god, but the concept is cool) Always neat to see ideas that would take the game in a new direction.
He also tells everyone to F-off. Which for that alone he is getting a Positive rep.
Elektra
10-13-2005, 04:00 PM
why don't all you guys just SHUT UP
EDIT: i love u all
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