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dirka dirka
10-22-2005, 03:09 PM
My assignment, read The Crucible by Arthur Miller. The dilemma, I have in front of me The Crucible in both paperback book and audio cassette form. The assignment is to read the book. The audio cassette is verbatim the book (I think I used the word verbatim in the wrong context, but you know what I mean). Now with either one I get the same information. So would you guys say that the audio casssette is morally wrong or cheating?

mark77xx
10-22-2005, 03:11 PM
i don't think so. my English teacher allows us to listen to some of our novels on tape. I think it can actually be better because u get to "hear" what the characters sound like. its also a whole lot easier than just reading it urself :)

Realist
10-22-2005, 03:12 PM
That would depend on what you have to do wtih the book....

I'd suspect your teacher wouldn't much like it, but I think it'd be ok if all you have to do is read and remember it.

green97sierra
10-22-2005, 03:12 PM
audio casset wouldnt be cheating, but i dont think that you would be able to digest the information in the same manner that you would if you were to read it. personally, for me, it is harder for me to fully and truly understand information if it is presented to me orally than if i were to be given a book, pamphlet, or paper on the topic.

Learz
10-22-2005, 03:15 PM
Maybe you should listen to it and kinda follow along in the book....

mark77xx
10-22-2005, 03:16 PM
that's a good idea

green97sierra
10-22-2005, 03:16 PM
or you can just get a screen-play version of it and act it out with you and the theatre geeks :D

dirka dirka
10-22-2005, 03:17 PM
i don't think so. my English teacher allows us to listen to some of our novels on tape. I think it can actually be better because u get to "hear" what the characters sound like. its also a whole lot easier than just reading it urself :)
Hmm. Definitly a good point, remembering the characters might be easier when you can associate with their voices... but then, there is what Green said ->

That would depend on what you have to do wtih the book....

I'd suspect your teacher wouldn't much like it, but I think it'd be ok if all you have to do is read and remember it.
Yea, hmm. He probably won't like it, but what he doesn't know won't hurt him. :bigsmile:

audio casset wouldnt be cheating, but i dont think that you would be able to digest the information in the same manner that you would if you were to read it. personally, for me, it is harder for me to fully and truly understand information if it is presented to me orally than if i were to be given a book, pamphlet, or paper on the topic.
Ahh, valid enough, more time put into reading the book may allow for actually understanding the plot in greater detail. Ahh God!

Learz
10-22-2005, 03:17 PM
Hey, extra credit!
:D

dirka dirka
10-22-2005, 03:18 PM
Maybe you should listen to it and kinda follow along in the book....
Whoa. I definitly think I like this idea.

green97sierra
10-22-2005, 03:20 PM
being an active-lazy-person! quite the contradiction!

Jeffery
10-22-2005, 03:22 PM
Just watch the damn movie and be done already.


There are many teachers who would say listening to the book vs reading it is, while not cheating, still not what they want.
Part of the reason they want you to read the books is so that you may absorb how the writing is done. As you read a book, you also can learn proper techniques for writing.
That can't be done as efficiently if you just listen to a book.

dirka dirka
10-22-2005, 03:24 PM
Just watch the damn movie and be done already.
Sadly enough, there isn't a movie that is exactly like the book, key details are changed that would definitly throw me off.

zzzaacckk
10-22-2005, 03:35 PM
You get the info better from reading generally and reading is faster generally AND you ca put sticky tabs on pages of a book, you cant do that with a cassette

dirka dirka
10-22-2005, 03:48 PM
Reading for me wouldn't be faster. The audio version is 2 1/4 hours long. This book would take me atleast 5 hours to read.

zzzaacckk
10-22-2005, 03:56 PM
then I suggest following along and taking notes.

Hellblazer
10-22-2005, 03:58 PM
My assignment, read The Crucible by Arthur Miller. The dilemma, I have in front of me The Crucible in both paperback book and audio cassette form. The assignment is to read the book. The audio cassette is verbatim the book (I think I used the word verbatim in the wrong context, but you know what I mean). Now with either one I get the same information. So would you guys say that the audio casssette is morally wrong or cheating?
Well, reading the book gives you a little less focus on the story due to the fact that you have to be holding something and scanning the pages with your eyes. With an audiobook, tyhat energy isn't taken away, so you're focussed a little more. Besides, your teacher's not going to find out.

Jeffery
10-22-2005, 05:12 PM
Actually, listening is a less focused way to get the information than reading.

When you listen, you will tend to want to look at this or that, and do something with your hands as well.
When reading, your hands are occupied, your eyes are occupied, and only really sound can distract you.

Jeffery
10-22-2005, 05:13 PM
Actually, listening is a less focused way to get the information than reading.

When you listen, you will tend to want to look at this or that, and do something with your hands as well.
When reading, your hands are occupied, your eyes are occupied, and only really sound can distract you.

dirka dirka
10-22-2005, 05:40 PM
Hmm.. in that regard, I may lay back, close my eyes, and listen to it.. or I may go threw the book at the same time.

***Duo***
10-22-2005, 06:14 PM
Listen to the tape.
End of story.


-Duo

Duffman
10-22-2005, 06:34 PM
My last year of school we had to read a Jane Austen book *shudders*. This book was going to be tested on in our final exams which basically affects everythin you're able to do so far as tertiary studies go. So i had the book and the book in audio form. I couldn't stand either of them so what i did was a chuck the CD's in my CD player and listened to them every night while i slept.

Yeah i got a vague idea what happened and i got into my University degree... so it must work. :p

I tell you what though, if my subconscious mind was a whole nother person right now, I'd get a kick square in the balls.

Office_Shredder
10-22-2005, 11:43 PM
Read the book. If you listen to it, you'll get so sick of it you'll break your tape player.

Soda
10-22-2005, 11:49 PM
How about instead of talking to us about it, making a thread and stuff, you could of read the god dam book ages ago... :D

Jeffery
10-23-2005, 12:20 AM
If They Banned Him Again For 3 Days, He Could Have The Whole Book Read And Done.

Soda
10-23-2005, 12:27 AM
Yeb, do him a favour and ban him...

Elentari
10-23-2005, 12:40 AM
We had to read that in class a while back... well, act it out. Minus the acting. My teacher called me a whore, because I was Abigail :|. It was so traumatic.

KBHoleN1
10-23-2005, 01:06 AM
Ok, its too late to quote people, cause I'm really tired, so I will just summarize.

Someone said listening to a voice gives you an idea of what the character sounds like, and helps you picture the characters. That is why you shouldn't listen to it - you should form your own opinions about the characters, the way they sound, and who they are, not take someone else's word for it. This may not seem like a big thing to you or many people, but it does have a big effect on how you interpret the story. Reading requires you to use your imagination, something you don't use very much when listening, and something you use hardly at all when you watch a movie.

If its getting it done you're interested in, go with the audio. And with a book like the Crucible, which few people find interesting, it is probably the only option if you are actually going to finish the book. But if you ever have a good story, reading is definitely the way to go. You become more involved in the story if you have to use your imagination.

HorNeT
10-23-2005, 02:39 AM
I dont think audiobook is cheating. it is the same as reading except your not reading.

Jeffery
10-23-2005, 03:02 AM
Which, if part of the reason for READING a book is to READ it, then yes, you are not doing the assignment.

Hellblazer
10-23-2005, 07:38 AM
Listen to the tape.
End of story.


-Duo
Yes. If you're a slow reader, listen to the book. It's faster, it requires no thinking as to what the characters sound like, and it's more fun.

mushroom_girl
10-23-2005, 04:29 PM
My assignment, read The Crucible by Arthur Miller. The dilemma, I have in front of me The Crucible in both paperback book and audio cassette form. The assignment is to read the book. The audio cassette is verbatim the book (I think I used the word verbatim in the wrong context, but you know what I mean). Now with either one I get the same information. So would you guys say that the audio casssette is morally wrong or cheating?
I'm working backstage on the play The Crucible at my school. It's a good story!

But no, there's nothing wrong with using Audio cassettes to "read" a book. If anything, it's better for some people, since some people learn better from listening than reading. Plus, you can be writing down notes as you're listening, so it can actually help you!

cs_zero
10-23-2005, 04:32 PM
we watched that movie in my english class!
it was pretty good, i like when the guy gets crushed by rocks, and he just asks for more weight.