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o yahh
11-11-2005, 06:47 PM
This is my formation I just started using this and I'm 28-2-1 with it. I'm trying not to brag but just state the facts, if you guys could give any suggestions I would be verry happy. Thanks for your time:)
o yahh
Darth_Vader
11-11-2005, 06:53 PM
This is my formation I just started using this and I'm 28-2-1 with it. I'm trying not to brag but just state the facts, if you guys could give any suggestions I would be verry happy. Thanks for your time:)
o yahhWhat formation?
EDIT- if you ever get a post of your form, I would gladly try to help though.
o yahh
11-11-2005, 09:46 PM
:( :fool: :crybaby: I feel like such an idiot... heres the linkMy form (http://img385.imageshack.us/full.php?image=myform1ar.jpg)
Darth_Vader
11-11-2005, 09:48 PM
:( :fool: :crybaby: I feel like such an idiot... heres the linkMy form (http://img385.imageshack.us/full.php?image=myform1ar.jpg)
Dont feel like an idiot, I did the same thing when I first attempted to make a link. To me that formation looks pretty good. I'm just curious though, how many people have you beaten with that form that are 1000+ in stats?
EDIT- a suggestion. What I would do is switch the pyro with a barrier ward. Unless you are very good with the pyro, I wouldnt use it. Basically all its damage can be negated with 1 heal. Try using both setups and see which unit gives you more success. I know mine is the barrier ward. Regarding the postion on the BW, I would keep it where you have the pyro, or move it back one space.
Megabyte
11-11-2005, 10:03 PM
shift everything except the cleric and the chantress to the left by one space, and you've got a good setup
edit: and maybe move the knight on the right side of the LW up a space, so that you don't have a spot where 3 units can be hit by a pyro attack. That's a personal choice though, doesn't hurt you really having it how it is.
Buster
11-11-2005, 10:06 PM
wow thats a good setup v. a gray and youll win every time. A gold can kill it but still that great. I dont know a gray on army that could beat it. The only thing that could be differnt is that,http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/3198/screenhunter96bh.th.jpg (http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenhunter96bh.jpg)There something Im missing but it late and I cant think. All that I did was make it so a gray that know LOS cant get you scout.
Edit: nvm I like megas Idea
o yahh
11-11-2005, 10:22 PM
wow thats a good setup v. a gray and youll win every time. A gold can kill it but still that great. I dont know a gray on army that could beat it.
:D Thanks for the ego check Buster lol
and thanks for the help Meg I'll take it into consideration:cool:
JiNx.
11-11-2005, 10:50 PM
Looks pretty solid. Though your use of a pyro is questionable, because when you are being flanked, without a barrier ward to protect your chanty, I will be able to do massive damage to two units and make you pick which one you think is more important, which in turn, will cost you the game eventually. The placement of the scout could be better though it is alright to protect against being flanked.
Lastly, if someone rushes in for your dmw with their knight, with scout backup your in trouble, so reconsider your protection and use of a knight wall.
Thats all I can see, but if it works, why changes it?
-JiNx.
Lone2Wolf
11-11-2005, 11:12 PM
"If a form doesn't suck, don't change it"
~Alpha_Wolf
imagination
11-12-2005, 01:19 AM
opp side it looks wicked good but same side if you play a good player they will put the hurt on fast. i agree with shifting everything to the right one. but then i thing you should kleave the witch where it is and put the scout in between the witch and pyro. then you have power for both sides. wait no leave the lw where it is and bring the 3 knights and ass left.
imagination
11-12-2005, 01:24 AM
ugh dbl post casue im tired of editing... pretty much to sum up my last post ... mve the archer in between the witch and pyro and take the farthest knight out and put it infront of where the ass is and then take the ass and move it one over.
TurtleKaze
11-12-2005, 03:46 AM
I think it's a good formation for grey vs grey. The only change I'd make is the earlier BW suggestion. Your form looks better as is, then it would if you followed people's advice on how to "improve" it. Your scout is in a great position, as it can move to numerous places and get a clear shot towards the center of the board yet still be under the protection of the LW/knights. Also, that is a great spot for your LW, as it provides ample protection of the area surrounding your cleric while also covering more of the central squares. If you were to take Buster's form (for example) your scout could be LW'd first turn and have no barrier. You would be forced to heal 1st turn and be attacked again, or move from the most crucial square to your cleric's defense, with your scout risking death from an opposing arrow next turn. A pyro is not as bad as most people make them out to be, sometimes you need a small amount of unblockable damage... but a BW would keep your witch/scout alive longer and enable them to move to more vulnerable but threatening positions, not to mention that it works great with chanty. I think you would find play more strategic and fun if you used the BW. From the looks of the rest of your set, it looks like it belongs there.
Frozen Toast
11-12-2005, 05:18 AM
wow thats a good setup v. a gray and youll win every time. A gold can kill it but still that great. I dont know a gray on army that could beat it. The only thing that could be differnt is that,http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/3198/screenhunter96bh.th.jpg (http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenhunter96bh.jpg)There something Im missing but it late and I cant think. All that I did was make it so a gray that know LOS cant get you scout.
Edit: nvm I like megas Idea
Put a Bw in there because your chantie is unsafe also your cleric is in risk of dieing take out a pyro and put a Bw in the put your scout somewhere in the middle of the back..
LosPollos
11-12-2005, 09:57 AM
Nice form man, i'm gonna have to test it b4 i can give you any real advise tho......
mattroe
11-13-2005, 08:32 AM
good form but for once frozen toast is right :confused: take out your pyro add a bw then move ur scout where your lw was and put the lw where the scout was then you have a great set up that can also beat golds... but thats my opinion do what you want it is really good
Frozen Toast
11-13-2005, 09:16 AM
good form but for once frzen toast is right :confused: take out your pyro add a bw then move ur scout where your lw was and put the lw where the scout was then you have a great set up that can also beat golds... but thats my opinion do what you want it is really good
:huh: Learn to spell my name before you talk about me Also a center setup doesn't stand a chance against a gold,Put it in 1 corner.
mattroe
11-13-2005, 09:58 AM
when i used a set up just like that i was able to beat golds a fair amount of times o and i spelled edited and now your name is spelled correctly heck i even beat a gold or 2 with a default before
divinity
11-13-2005, 05:27 PM
if you can beat golds with the default setting, as you say you did, then you might have pissed off those goldies....unless they were brand new to TAO and instantly got the gold account, but still, a win's a win. nice one. :)
Lonely Tylenol
11-14-2005, 12:04 AM
Question: Why's everyone ragging on the Pyromancer? I've basically heard from half a dozen posts that either the Pyromancer is useless, or the least useful among the grey units... Has any of the people in question efficiently used a Pyromancer before?
The Barrier Ward is used to compensate for the lack of raw firepower by extending the lifespan of an offensive unit, and giving the Enchantress an extra means of preserving Focus... However, with skillful Cleric protection and Enchantress' Focus protection, the Barrier Ward's usage and purpose can actually be slackened, and the extra firepower provided by the lone Pyromancer can actually help. I guess that's a matter of perspective of course... But you hardly need the Barrier Ward if you can train enough to survive without it. Plus, the Barrier Ward is pitifully easy to kill. (But maybe this is just because I target it every time I vs. a turtle.)
I actually like the use of a Chanty and lone Pyro as opposed to Chanty/BW and two Pyros. However, I can't use an Enchantress with my more aggressive grey game and I consider Pyromancers an integral part of any grey formation I'd use, so I just use twin Pyromancers or a Pyromancer + Barrier Ward.
imagination
11-14-2005, 12:09 AM
the pyro is good in there but the side should be blocked or a same side trt could hurt it. the scout position is in a decent postion but if its more centralized in the form it would help in same side as well. i stick to my original post.
x-useme
11-14-2005, 12:11 AM
I'm not ragging on pyromancer, but a barrier ward would be a lot more helpful. You should either replace your witch or pyromancer with a barrier ward. Keep the assasin though because you could always get it to less than 5 and barrier ward it.
imagination
11-14-2005, 12:16 AM
pyros can be very effective is used correctly. i personally use a bw but i think in this form a pyro suits.
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