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Forest_Archer
11-18-2005, 05:36 PM
Bonding together natural poisons, these magical beings thrive in the woods. As astonishing as they are, humans adventuring off near them bring back stories of illness.

Health- 32

Armor- 0

Blocking- 40%

Movement Range- 3

Attack (FOCUS)- Choose one square within a range of 3. This square has to be in a straight line from the NW. No initial damage is done. This unit now has a condition called "Enchanted."

What Enchanting Does:

• The chosen unit can not move or attack, if it wants to remain Enchanted.

• Every between-turn, the healing damage done by Enchantment doubles. It starts off as 1, then goes to 2, 4, 8, etc.

• Each turn, the Enchanted unit gets healed. A small number in parenthesis will appear after "Enchanted" above the unit's name (i.e. where paralysis, poison, and barried would be). This number represents how many health the unit was healed by last between-turn.

• Directly after the between-turn where 32 damage is healed, the focus stops.

Recovery Time- 3 turns

Executioner
11-18-2005, 05:47 PM
Ill review it if you look at my blacksmith :bigsmile:

Exe

Man's Laughter
11-18-2005, 05:49 PM
Interesting unit. Is there any limit to the ammount of damage that can be healed, or does it go on infinitely until the target has full health or focus is broken?

Forest_Archer
11-18-2005, 06:05 PM
Hmm... maybe when it reaches 32 healing, the focus stops.

I'll edit that. Thanks.

Servant
11-18-2005, 08:02 PM
you notice how vets consistently break the rules?

everyone tells the poor newbs our healing unit is fine. but when a vet makes one people accept it. perhaps you should be telling newbs that they arent good enough designers to make a healer?

i for stay with the original postion, we dont need more healers.

divinity
11-18-2005, 11:39 PM
you notice how vets consistently break the rules?

everyone tells the poor newbs our healing unit is fine. but when a vet makes one people accept it. perhaps you should be telling newbs that they arent good enough designers to make a healer?

i for stay with the original postion, we dont need more healers.
Quit crying, and don't hijack someone else's thread.

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Darth_Vader
11-18-2005, 11:49 PM
you notice how vets consistently break the rules?

everyone tells the poor newbs our healing unit is fine. but when a vet makes one people accept it. perhaps you should be telling newbs that they arent good enough designers to make a healer?

i for stay with the original postion, we dont need more healers.
I agree. Our current healer does do a perfectly fine job, and I see no need for another in the near future. I do like the unit though F_A, even if it is another healer. You did a good job.

Divinity, what's with all the huge pictures or spam all the sudden?

EDIT- I felt it best to edit this here, and not make another post to answer Divinity's question that he should have taken to Pm's. So Div, if you want an answer or explanation, PM me.

divinity
11-18-2005, 11:52 PM
I agree. Our current healer does do a perfectly fine job, and I see no need for another in the near future. I do like the unit though F_A, even if it is another healer. You did a good job.

Divinity, what's with all the huge pictures or spam all the sudden?
Even so...2 clerics seem to do the job just fine.

DV, what's with not recognizing Servant's spam?

EDIT: Ok, s/he obviously feels compelled to drag this out even further, and I'm losing my patience with this kid.
DV, you can't self-support an intelligent conversation when you constantly whine, or drag out an issue that is literally trivial or small; namely about spam and the fact that you purposely fail to see what spam you yourself have brought up within one of the threads here; then that's your problem. As for the supposedly large picture of the cat: YOU ARE NOT A MOD!! LEAVE THAT TO THE MODS TO DEAL WITH!!. I'm sure the picture is a little large, I'm not saying it isn't. However, if a mod or an admin feels that it is a bit too large, I'm sure they will tell me, and I will gladly resize and repost it without a care in the world. You, as a regular member here, have no say regarding it, that is what mods basically are here for. You COULD have messaged a mod about a picture that you feel is too large, but you have no place in taking matters like that upon yourself. You ask me to PM you so you can continue these assanine retorts that you, consequently, have started, and I find no need to waste my time and effort, bringing my side of an intelligent conversation to the table, when I already know I will not get the same in return. However, if you want to continue dragging this out, then it's YOU who needs to PM me. You want to continue your needless bickering that I for one didn't bring up to begin with, then YOU send the PM. Otherwise we're done here, and you should suck it up, hero.

Don't continue to hijack this thread, and let's put it back on-topic. In case you forget what that topic is, I'm sure it's there in the post labelled "#1".

JesusCraig
11-19-2005, 02:55 AM
Servant the reason we tell the newer people not to make healers is because it is such a delicate situation few, if any, people have maintained the correct balance when doing it. Thus it is futile attempt by a new person to try it, and since we'd prefer new people to stay with the CAU we'd rather not have to discourage them too severely (unless they consistently make bad units or stupid remarks). For a veteran to make a healer is a different matter, healers are the epitome of what it takes to be a good unit creator, if you can make a successful healer who accomplishes a job more effectively than the cleric but is not more powerful, than you've created the pinnacle of CAU, in my opinion anyway, since healing is the most delicate ability.

Divinity, if you're sure the picture is a little large, why bother waiting for a mod to tell you to resize it, if you think it is too large as you stated fix the problem before they are required to tell you, thus allowing them to free up some of their time as well as enabling us to not have to deal with the annoyance of it. Your statement follows the analogy that if your not a cop you shouldn't try to prevent crime, it is all our responsibilities to govern ourselves, if you willfully display a signature you know to be oversized than you deserve to be treated as you are being treated since you are willfully breaking the rules/ causing a disturbance. Your clearly educated, why not show some of that education in the form of mature decisions.

Forest Archer: What is the purpose of this unit? It can't serve as an effective backline healer since the majority of units healed will be on the frontline, and even in the event it does manage to target one unit it takes 4 turns after enchanting for this unit to become more effective than a cleric, and in that time you could have healed all your units twice, and continued to use the unit that would be enchanted by your method. It's too limited in its effects to be effective.

Guilded Dragon
11-19-2005, 06:03 AM
nice one forest that's an awesome unit, if were grading it i give it 10!

Servant
11-19-2005, 06:34 AM
im interested in that jesus. why dont you tell people this stuff? it;s illogical to put forth the opinion that people should't make healing units and not tell us that when youre a respected vet then you can. no offense(sp?) but you should tell people this stuff straight away. im pretty gald i didnt flame the crap out of forest from a position of ignorance.

divinity, i wasnt hijacking the thread. my post was entirely relevant. did you want me to make a whole thread to ask that? nice job spamming yourself. i notice you think i was talking about myself or you wouldnt have said quit crying. i was talking about newbier newbs. i personally have not tried to make a healer so...

as to the actual unit. this unit is highly underpowered. it keeps the unit from moving for a couple turns. units needing 32 point or even 16 point healing woould never be close enough where you could focus that long(5 turns to reach 16, 6 to reach 32) and they wouldnt have a better attacking opportunity. 5 turns heals them a total of 31 points. a double cleric heal fixes that 7 less but hits all units. only the l-ward would benefit from this unit, healing 15 points before recovery.

Forest_Archer
11-19-2005, 08:25 AM
It could reinforce the Retreat-Back, Heal, Attack method.

Executioner
11-19-2005, 08:30 AM
I think its affect is to slow, it would take waaaaaay too long before it actually gave a useful amount of health.

Exe

Lone2Wolf
11-19-2005, 12:41 PM
I think its affect is to slow, it would take waaaaaay too long before it actually gave a useful amount of health.

Exe

Exactly why this could make for a good unit. If it did give a useful amount of health, then this and the cleric combined would be too... powerful.

Servant
11-19-2005, 02:29 PM
but now its too underpowered. nah forest. that woudlnt help. it might be good in a defensive turtle. but you'd need to take out another support unit to keep enough attackers. no one would ever use this.

divinity
11-19-2005, 02:52 PM
JesusCraig: That's just it: I don't think that it is too large. I was only stating a point which I believe you overlooked.

Servant: If you actually read that long edit of mine, you'd know that I didn't even remotely refer to you. Deflate your ego. :dry:

(back on topic):
Simply put, it's a regen-like effect, so of course this healer CAU wouldn't get too many "thumbs down" votes by the critics.

Cuathon
11-19-2005, 02:55 PM
Even so...2 clerics seem to do the job just fine.

DV, what's with not recognizing Servant's spam?

EDIT: Ok, s/he obviously feels compelled to drag this out even further, and I'm losing my patience with this kid.
DV, you can't self-support an intelligent conversation when you constantly whine, or drag out an issue that is literally trivial or small; namely about spam and the fact that you purposely fail to see what spam you yourself have brought up within one of the threads here; then that's your problem. As for the supposedly large picture of the cat: YOU ARE NOT A MOD!! LEAVE THAT TO THE MODS TO DEAL WITH!!. I'm sure the picture is a little large, I'm not saying it isn't. However, if a mod or an admin feels that it is a bit too large, I'm sure they will tell me, and I will gladly resize and repost it without a care in the world. You, as a regular member here, have no say regarding it, that is what mods basically are here for. You COULD have messaged a mod about a picture that you feel is too large, but you have no place in taking matters like that upon yourself. You ask me to PM you so you can continue these assanine retorts that you, consequently, have started, and I find no need to waste my time and effort, bringing my side of an intelligent conversation to the table, when I already know I will not get the same in return. However, if you want to continue dragging this out, then it's YOU who needs to PM me. You want to continue your needless bickering that I for one didn't bring up to begin with, then YOU send the PM. Otherwise we're done here, and you should suck it up, hero.

Don't continue to hijack this thread, and let's put it back on-topic. In case you forget what that topic is, I'm sure it's there in the post labelled "#1".


say that again? i see a thing about servant spamming.

Originally Posted by Servant
you notice how vets consistently break the rules?

everyone tells the poor newbs our healing unit is fine. but when a vet makes one people accept it. perhaps you should be telling newbs that they arent good enough designers to make a healer?

i for stay with the original postion, we dont need more healers.

Quote by Divinity: Quit crying, and don't hijack someone else's thread.

and here it is again.

divinity
11-19-2005, 03:17 PM
Quote by Divinity: Quit crying, and don't hijack someone else's thread.

and here it is again.
Good observation, but wrong. I was only referring to Darth_Vader in that entire edit. Look around the CAU forum for different, recent threads, and you'll see that DV has spammed. Next time you want to pin something on me, know your s*it first. http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b303/bluexeyes_/no.gif

On this exact thread in this forum, Servant was essentially 'crying', wondering why if he and another forumer here make similar units, that why his is the only one that gets the burns. Did you not see that or are you simply looking the other way. (is getting bored with the novices.)

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21751, Post #5

w00t
11-19-2005, 03:28 PM
OoOoOO this unit can be useful and useless in some cases


useful - it can really help it tight situations and a pretty good attack for ultimate destruction!

useless - the only really useless thing is the special because it only heals itself and has to keep a focus but it doesnt paralyze or take hp away from the oppoent. My opinion would be like the health it takes away the health that unit loses , or make it were it doesnt have to be a focus instead a curse type of thing. :D

Cuathon
11-19-2005, 03:28 PM
if thaht link is supposed to be another thread, then your a dumbass for not realizing its this one, even if its not if you look around you'll notice how servant never made a healing unit. servant was pointing out that only n00bs got flamed for healing units. so you're the dumbass.

and as for your servant bull before this dumbass, you asked where you had talked about servant in the long post. you said servant spammed. you still refered to servant anyway.

as for servants long post he was refering to your hijakc post dumbass. so until you know what the hell YOU'RE talking about go STFU. you are like one of the biggest n00bs on these forums and constanlty spout bullshit. seriously, if youre gonna taslk about someone else dont leave you're self so open.

nowlets take this out of FA's thread. if you have anymore comments pm servant or me if they are directed at me or make your own thread to make an idioty out of yourself. thank you.

w00t
11-19-2005, 03:30 PM
if thaht link is supposed to be another thread, then your a dumbass for not realizing its this one, even if its not if you look around you'll notice how servant never made a healing unit. servant was pointing out that only n00bs got flamed for healing units. so you're the dumbass.

and as for your servant bull before this dumbass, you asked where you had talked about servant in the long post. you said servant spammed. you still refered to servant anyway.

as for servants long post he was refering to your hijakc post dumbass. so until you know what the hell YOU'RE talking about go STFU. you are like one of the biggest n00bs on these forums and constanlty spout bullshit. seriously, if youre gonna taslk about someone else dont leave you're self so open.

nowlets take this out of FA's thread. if you have anymore comments pm servant or me if they are directed at me or make your own thread to make an idioty out of yourself. thank you.
who are u talking about? me? :(

Cuathon
11-19-2005, 03:32 PM
have you seen the arguemnet between me and servant vs. divinity? it's practically all over this thread.

w00t
11-19-2005, 03:32 PM
nope lol just got here

divinity
11-19-2005, 03:55 PM
if thaht link is supposed to be another thread, then your a dumbass
-ooo, namecalling: the classic card to play when one gets told off. wrong again; I was pointing out your ignorance from before.-

even if its not if you look around you'll notice how servant never made a healing unit.
-if YOU look around, you'd realize that I never once said that servant made a healing unit....and he calls ME the dumbass. lol-

servant was pointing out that only n00bs got flamed for healing units. so you're the dumbass.
-exactly what i had said before. Mind telling me how I am the dumbass, exactly?-

and as for your servant bull before this dumbass, you asked where you had talked about servant in the long post. you said servant spammed. you still refered to servant anyway.
-this long post, I'm assuming you mean that long edit; that long edit was all for Darth_Vader. Didn't I just say that?? As for servant and your constant, unnecessary bitching: you can quit needlessly defending your boyfriend. 'Cause you're just making yourself look stupid.-

as for servants long post he was refering to your hijakc post dumbass.
-*yawn*, yeah, you already played the dumbass card. What are you, 14, 15? As for highjacking this thread, if you look closely, I was on topic in one of my first posts on here, and if servant was on topic also, before he started crying about why 'he' essentially got flamed for one of his units, which basically screams "hijacking in progress".-

so until you know what the hell YOU'RE talking about go STFU.
-I know exactly what I am talking about. Do you? Try again.-

you are like one of the biggest n00bs on these forums and constanlty spout bullshit.
-You're entitled to your opinion, but I've been in so many forums that I have some experience in ''noobish'' behavior, and as such, I am far from spouting bullshit, as you have so obviously shown that you are fully capable of doing all on your own.-

seriously, if youre gonna taslk about someone else dont leave you're self so open.
-That's ironic, as that's what you just did when you decided to step up to me. ;) -

nowlets take this out of FA's thread.
-Deja vu, as this is exactly what I myself have said before, on this thread, to someone else. True noobs never listen.

Do you even read each post before you noobishly make one yourself?-
if you have anymore comments pm servant or me if they are directed at me or make your own thread to make an idioty out of yourself.
-Wow, another one: coming on here, whining his childish ass off, then has the nerve to tell me to PM him. Let me educate you; if you're going to start the fight, you don't run away and hide with your tail inbetween your legs...or is it your mangina, I never can tell.
I made an idiot out of myself? Oh really? Even though it was you who wanted to drag this dead horse to kick all by your self? And that you have so willingly made an ass out of yourself? (it's "idiot", btw, not "idioty")...and the fact that I've pointed out your ignorance time and time again here? Wait, wait, you're going to tell me I didn't, right? If that's the case then I'll gladly let you point out your ignorance. I've been around the block with people's crap like this, and if you're going to hit and run, then you're not worth my time. Just as I thought. Sit down, rookie.

thank you.
--No, thank you. :) --

As for this argument between you and servant vs. me, that you were so eager to continue: It's pretty sad since I've won it already, even with the handicap, so you both are done. You can continue to cry and gossip now, I know you will.

Cuathon
11-19-2005, 03:58 PM
as soon as you point out how you won perhaps i will.

i notice you didnt even try to refute what i said. saying im sad because you already won doesnt really porve anything.

you're just mad cause i won! see? even if it's true its just a waste of breath.

divinity
11-19-2005, 04:01 PM
as soon as you point out how you won perhaps i will.
Oh how did I ever know that you would say that.....oh, right...cuz I've dealt with children before. Nice attempt to deny you being schooled though.
If you're going to continue your ignorance, be my guest. ::snicker::
Just remember, you put yourself there: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b303/bluexeyes_/hanged.gif
If you're not scared of more schooling; I'll await your PM. If not, continue spilling your gossip from your gaping mangina.

Cuathon
11-19-2005, 04:04 PM
well i see you're doing the same. and i also assume the two quotes in your sig, the white followed by the red are a joke. and if you've dealt with children you must realize that you havent said anything thats gonna make me quit. if you answer the question instead of avoiding it and it's correct then i can admit you're right. furthermore im not going to respond to anymore of you're pointless posts unitl someone else backs you or me up. if you post something logical expakantory or intelligent ill respond.

JesusCraig
11-19-2005, 11:25 PM
Stop it.

Arguing is fine, I do it practically non-stop. However both of you have lost your points of reference and have resorted to needless bickering about nothing, there was no contest to win so neither of you "won" and since there is no contest it really doesn't make sense to continue like this. Your both on differing sides of an argument which has no actual bearing, as such you'll never reconcile your opinions, which means Cauthon he can never make you realize you lost, and divinity that means there is no sense of claiming you "schooled" him, your argument is subjective thus can not account for a winner.

As for my argument divinity, it stemmed from your exact post, I took only your words and used them to formulate my argument, as such it was objective and definable thus had I any interest I could claim I won, since I have evidence to a falsification of your claim, but I have no interest in beating you in an argument, my points still stand though.
Further Cauthon your claims are unfounded since your acting on the rational of supposed intention, when you can make no actual claims of intent.
Divinity your claims as well are unfounded since a worthwhile question was submitted by Servant, it would be a great bias if we told beginners not to make healing units than praised a healing unit made by a vet, it would show idiosyncracies and contradictions within our society which are unfair, an identical unit created by a noob or a vet should recieve the same praise or criticism, servent was pointing out that this is not so.

Thus I address my next remark at Servant. The idea of a concept which can not be personified in a unit doesn't exist, all concepts can theoretically be units given the right constraints, however instead of divulging that information to rookies, I prefer to let them discover it on their own, thereby creating a phenomenal unit which uses an inherently flawed concept. Thus people would measure their successes on such a curve and we could define a good creator as someone who manages to do that, however to assure its not a fluke we must present them first with the idea that inherently flawed concepts are in fact inherently flawedm this isn't done so much actively as it is done inherently in most societies, it is often necessary for people to break rules to create wonderful changes in the world, however common breaking of rules usually results in nothing thus we weed out the latter with conditioning, and hope the former still occurs. Is it possible we lose a lot of potentially good units because of it? Yes. Is it worth it to continue doing it? That is decided by the society at large.

Cross Punisher
11-19-2005, 11:34 PM
So what are they arguing about?

Oh yeah, and I like that idea of healing FA, though I don't think it's effective enough

Servant
11-20-2005, 07:03 AM
thank you jesus. i just figured that convoluted stuff like that wouldn't be used a a siple interent game. i suppose we can be perfect so it's probably a good idea.

i think the arguement started over divivity saying i hijacked a thread by asking the question jesus just answered. we did have a bit of an arguemnt beforehand on glams thread though. since Cuathon was arguing better than i would even if i know agre that that arguament was unwinnable and got totally off track, i let him do it. its over now though.

JesusCraig
11-20-2005, 07:46 PM
Well its not a concept that I think we only engage in consciously. It's more of a subconscious process that has become inherent within our respective societies thus they will be mirrored in things which reflect society, i.e. games.