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Anarchy_United
11-19-2005, 03:37 PM
I was playing a game against Jamon, another grey and we both played well and it got down to my Chanty against his knight+lighning ward. My chanty had full health and I chased after his knight and he ran away, I never could pin him so we took a draw. Is there a way for me to win or should it be a draw?

bobdagangsta
11-19-2005, 03:42 PM
If you dont attack for like 30 turns i think it is, it will draw. if you had attacked the air the count would have started all over again. On Jamon's part that was good thinking.

Lone2Wolf
11-19-2005, 04:29 PM
I would have just attacked thin air (without moving). This way you can proably lure his knight over to attack your chanty, then you can just freeze him.

imagination
11-19-2005, 05:01 PM
actually you cant just attack think air. you must attack you opp. or(not sure about this) a shrub. doesnt matter if it is a miss but you must attack them. also if it was his knight lw vrs your cahnty then a draw was the best you could do unless he screwed up. if you could have found a way to draw him out then thats a different story but as long as he sat out of range of you and you needed to go into range of his lw it was a draw.

Lone2Wolf
11-19-2005, 05:03 PM
How can you miss with a Chanty?

imagination
11-19-2005, 05:05 PM
you have to attack in general (i was saying with any peice not just chanty). all im saying is he couldnt just attack thin air.

Lone2Wolf
11-19-2005, 05:10 PM
Yes you can... I did so an hour ago. I accidentaly misclicked, and my scout attacked in front of an unit, hitting nothing.

legacy67
11-19-2005, 05:13 PM
Yes you can attack "thin air". Have you ever seen a new player attack a space with a knight when there wasn't a peice there? How about the trick LOS shots where you target an unnocupied space beyond your target?

Now if you are talking about the draw rule then I don't know, but it seemed from the context that you were denying the ability to attack "thin air" on face value.

imagination
11-19-2005, 05:36 PM
i AM talking about the draw rule ... of coarse you can attack thin air but it wont count as attacking in the 30 move rule

*ace*
11-19-2005, 07:36 PM
nope no way u could win... i had that same problem with an knight vs assasain and the assasain takes bigger steps so i couldnt hit it... ended up in a draw :(

deleryn
11-19-2005, 10:55 PM
Actually, you could trap a knight in a corner with a chanty, especially if he gets cocky about running away (yeah, yeah, an oxymoron and a real moron). The thing is, he has six movement for your three. Also, you could try to keep the game going for another thirty turns by paralyzing his lighting ward after the knight strays off too far. Even if the knight lands an attack on her after spending three turns to get there, he's frozen next turn and you win. Then you could try to catch him again for a while.

I think that you could also try to corner assassins in such a way that you at least get an attack off, and prolong the game even if you miss.

All the square counting and calculation leaves room for error, though.

imagination
11-20-2005, 12:35 AM
no del the chanty waits one between moves and 3 if it attacks and moves. you couldnt even get the lw without dying and you cant corner the knight because you would have to move into range of the lw to do so.

Lone2Wolf
11-20-2005, 12:52 AM
So, the only way to possibly win is to attack thin air with the Chanty, hope that the opponent is stupid enough to go for your chanty, takes a couple of turns to get there, and freeze it. Proably won't happen too often though.

Bottle
11-20-2005, 09:20 AM
The 30 turn draw will occur if there is no contact between your units and enemy units for 30 turns, that is 15 moves each. Attacking your own units does not count as contact. Attacking your own shrubs does not count but attacking an opponent's does. You can tell which shrubs are "friendly" and which are "enemy's" by holding the cursor over the shrub, a red tint appears below an enemy one and a white tint below yours. You can also attack an enemy unit with 100% blocking, and that counts for contact.

Knight and LW vs. chanty = draw. Knight vs. full health chanty = chanty win. Knight vs. chanty with 22 or less HP = draw.