manonfire101

[KBHoleN1]

For clarification, I had nothing against this kid before today. We played a game in which my turt opposite sided his rush. I made a few dumb moves, and the game was about even, when he dced. I apologized in the lobby, and stated that the game at that pooint was a toss-up. The only unit he had killed was my wisp, but he was about to get my cleric. The rest of my units were close to full health, and I had already taken his dsm, one scout, and about to get his BR. I liked my position, I am used to playing from behind, and i was a few moves from frost-whoring him to death. But, if he managed to kill the frosty before then, he had a really good chance of winning. He still had to finish all my units, and most of his were close to me and exposed.

In the lobby, he told me he had the game won easily from that point. Also, at the start of the game, he told me I had the better position. He had 3 of his rushers in front of my turt, the other 4 were opposite sided, as were his dragon and cleric in the back. How is that a good setup for me. Charge in for the cleric kill, then retreat to your corner. I am helpless to stop the cleric kill, all I can do is take as many units as I can.

In the lobby, he continued to insult me, claiming that "the way I played" he could beat me anytime, in any game, he said. He asked me what type of game I wanted, and I said turtle. I trusted him, actually, to put up a turt and play the game, if he felt he could really beat me. Instead, I found this form: (I am orange, on top)

http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/5696/manonfire7af.th.jpg (http://img315.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manonfire7af.jpg)

I told him I would win anyway, being optimistic, and he used that against me the rest of the game. Point being, I was hoping to find a whole, exploit, and embarass the cheater in his attempt to beat me. I failed. Manonfire, if this is what it takes for you to win a game, I feel sorry for you. Enjoy your stats.

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/171/manonfire23zr.th.jpg (http://img484.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manonfire23zr.jpg)
"you rushed me"
"he"
"yes" ;)
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Here he had just said that I was basing my arguments off "my definition" of a turt. I responded with "its not my definition". I challenge him to find a definition of a turt that complies with his form.

He then claimed that our units were "the same distance apart". Ha. He has 2/3rds of his units in the front 3 rows. Only his cleric was in position for a turt. Now that I look at it, I played terribly in the game, I was too pissed off. I have a giant crack down the middle of my laptop screen (long story), and I didn't even realize he had a wisp there before he moved for my cleric. Normally I move the window around the crack and make sure I can see. I was too busy taking s/s and bitching at him. It frustrates me that people like this refuse to admit that they are cheaters. He can do this all he wants and thinks he won't get punished for it. Forget honor or reputation, all he cares about is stats. This is my attempt to expose him. I don't expect anything to happen, just want his dishonesty known to all.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3789/manonfire59ni.th.jpg (http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manonfire59ni.jpg)

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/2887/manonfire65bm.th.jpg (http://img452.imageshack.us/my.php?image=manonfire65bm.jpg)

I don't care about stats, I am playing on Rev after all. I lose games all the time, so what? I am used to it playing freestyle with a turt. But I also win some big games, and I win a lot. What I can't stand is someone insulting my play without good reason, and even less can I stand someone who cheats in a game and then claims superiority. Manonfire is dishonest, and a poor sport. I only became defensive of my play after he insulted it (who wouldn't). I felt confident about my position in our original game, but gave him the benefit of the doubt and claimed it a toss-up, apologizing for his dc. If he hadn't been such a jackass in the lobby, we probably would have rematched, and he would have gotten his stats back fairly. Instead, he felt the need to ask for a turt game and then make a form to counter my own. How convenient that he has all his units in position to take down mine. But no, I must be wrong, the point of a turt game must be to wisp my cleric, quake my stone, and rush in with a dragon and 2 scouts. Great job manonfire, you're obviously a very worthy opponent.

I just want everyone to know what type of player you're facing when you play him. Obviously my trust was displaced.

If he had done this, and not spoken to me in the game, I could not say he cheated. But the fact that several times in the game he admits to rushing me, offers a rematch with his stone against the wall - why would he say that if he knew his firts form wasn't a turt? This guy is a joke.

*Images are coming slowly, I have 6 images total of the game talk, please be patient*

[monkus]

Manonfire is actually Sword Warrior or someone along those lines from Legends. I asked for a turtle game, and he used the same form. I crushed it, but got d/c'ed. He claimed he was winning when I got back, but when I challenged the call, he agreed to a rematch, me getting first turn. He took the first turn anyway, and beat me with some luck.

I called him on the cheap form, and he agreed to an alpha turtles game. I crushed him.

We play in freestyle once in a while. He has yet to beat me in that.

He's a very good player, but incredibly dishonest and disrespectful. I would advise avoiding a game with him; they're never enjoyable.

[KBHoleN1]

I'm glad you beat him monk, but my form is no match for such a blatent one-sided rush. I don't have the skill to do so. I do have enough skill to challenge most forms with my purely defensive turt, in terms of starting position. I ensure with my form that none of my units are able to reach vital turt pieces, and that in no way can my form turn into a rush inside of the first 4 turns. His form is exactly opposite of that, hoping to gain every advantage through setup, not play.

[~GooseR~]

I remember his set from like 8 months ago i think...
~Glad~ used it once against me when i was still a n00b :rolleyes:
anyway it was a flawless >.<!!
Althought it may not be some people's definition of turtle because the stoney isnt it the back, i think it just makes it a more offensive kinda turt.
Manonfire's a good player and might use cheap tactics at times but he just likes to get even. As do many people in real life as well o.o

[I BEAT MATHEWS]

Manon wont ever play me, he says my stats are to low :(

[~GooseR~]

well.. :rolleyes:

[mantis33]

What a bastard...

KB, you'll get em' next time. :)

[I BEAT MATHEWS]

well.. :rolleyes:

What are you trying to say :eek:

[FryLock]

Well, that sucks, KB. He and I had 1 freestyle game recently that I think he won, just barely. DSM caught a sideblock at a bad time...then in the lobby, he was crowing and I threw a barb at him about having little skill if he had to rely on a DSM sideblock. So he agreed to a turtle. Surprisingly, he did NOT use the form he used against you, probably because he did not know what side I would be on. His form is excellent for same-siders, but it would get chopped up cross-sides.

He proceeded to play badly and I beat him handily. Once he realized he was losing, he became quite polite, etc.

Sounds like a bit of a shizo to me.

[Wolfman]

well KBN, tell me about manon... i know his turs pretty well....

for your info, manon SELDOM/NEVER FPS tur style.... he only plays Leg Tur style.... in which his set for this battle is legit if u ask for a tur leg style.

just for your sake, make sure when u ask for a turtle game, state the rules, wolf always mentioned monkus rule or old school monk rule or something like that.... that way... u can avoid leg tur styler like manon.

besides, manon always thinks he is a great turtler, which in fact is good for him, cuz he will play ya when u need it.... also, which is also good for us, when we need a leg tur style game, manon is da man.

wolfy

[~GooseR~]

i think he lies :\
Cause he asid he was younger than me but i dont believe it

[KBHoleN1]

We played another game, alpha turt rules. I had terrible blocking in the game, and a frontshot cost me my last scout. I still had a dragon, knight, frost, stone, cleric vs his furg, frost, knight, stone, cleric. He shrubbed up, and kind of stalled for a while. I let him, as I moved into position. Froze his frost from behind shrubs, took out his cleric, and began moving in for the kill. Obviously, he can't contend with stoned units with only a knight and a furg. I easily maneuvered through the shrubs and killed his units, but it took forever. Stoned every time he could, shrubbeed every time he could, and took a while doing it. Not sure if he was hoping for a d/c, or that I would get bored and offer a draw, but I didn't appreciate it. He played well, and was polite, but his tactics were shrewd and not very honorable. He is too concerned with stats, less concerned with the game. That is all.

[Madars]

when i was still a n00b

You still are. :)

-Mad-

[Hatchet Klown]

Nice win bro...

Ill be sure to keep an eye on manon, see if he is dishonest in other ways... ;)

[Geeky_Bastard]

Swordstorm plays on Manonfire but there is actually a real Manonfire. Swords does act like a two year old sometimes though.

[Lonely Tylenol]

I have played manonfire101 (AKA Swordsworn on Legends) approximately 42 times, won 21 and lost 21. Probably played him more than anyone in TAO, excluding Apocalypse. That was when manonfire101 was on Great Lakes. I never had a problem with him, really. He was always up for a game when I was and our games were always exceptionally close (so many of them were decided by one late-game shot, like my 11 Dragon vs. his 16 GA).

He's typically used that same turtle, but it's not really his. That's the turtle carlos22, Dan U, most experienced Legenders and noob FPS turtlers have been inclined to use. I'm not surprised to see an Alpha turtler get upset over it. I myself am disgusted when someone calls it "skill" to bum-rush me with that formation (I have recently noticed a trend, where people will use this form without even stoning, and just all-out rush my Cleric or Scouts), but since it doesn't really break any of my rules, I just put up with it. Some people actually do define it as a turtle, but I think many believe it safer to say it's just an excuse to rush without "rush"ing.

[KBHoleN1]

I wish there was an easy way to convey my feelings about what a turtle is. In my mind, my definition allows for a wide range of forms, as long as they all serve the same purpose. If you want to use a "non-alpha" form, play opposite side games, it only makes sense. I see a turtle as less of a form, and more as a type of game. A game where the only goal is to allow fairness between the two sides of play. None of your units should be moved into an offesnive position, because that may put your opponent at a disadvantage. I don't want to start a game in a winning position, I want to start in an even position. Let your play do the talking, not your formation. Set up a formation that allows for easy offense, but not immediate offense. You give me 4 turns, and I can be in better position to attack a turt than a rush. But it takes those 4 turns. If, inside of those 4 turns, my opponent does something to stop my advance, I can easily defend.

But I never begin a game from a dominant position. I may have a better position, such as a turt against an opposite side anti, but I never try to catch my opponent off-guard. If you move a stony forward, or place a dragon the front row, or have a mud in reach of my stone, or scouts in reach of my cleric, you're turning the game into a rush. You're trying to gain an advantage over your opponent, partially because you assume your opponent is doing the same thing. Where's the fun in winning a game you're supposed to? It's much more fun to kick ass from a lesser position. Like I said, let your play do the talking.

No matter what people say, or how many people rush my turt, I won't stop trying this. If I can play someone as great as Twelve, and bring his dsm rush down to a single (albeit full health) knight, then I have accomplished something. That game right there made me feel better than when I beat a turtle. I know I can turtle, and I know I can turtle well enough to contend with most. And its not because of my form, believe me. If you need a better form to beat me, so be it, that makes me feel better about my game. Manonfire felt the need to design a counter form to my simple turtle, as if you need a counter to a turt. His position in our first game was at best neutral, at worst his rush could have easily beaten my turt if I was not so well-polished in my freestyling. If he had aplyed me in that second game without insulting me, i probably wouldn't have cared so much. I would have bitched, told him to enjoy his stats, and gone on with my business. He is not the first to do so, nor will he be the last. But when he insulted my play to my face and to the lobby, I felt a need to set him in his place. He started feeling so big, he thought he had actually "outplayed" me. Our alpha turt game following dispelled that thought, I am sure.

I challenge anyone who feels like it to consistently use a form that allows your play to determine the game. I have never started a game with this turt and known that I was going to win based on forms. I know I am going to win because of my play. If the form I'm facing puts me at a large enough disadvantage, I may not have a chance to win the game, or that chance may be very small. Couple that with average or above average play from my opponent, and I lose. That is what frustrates me, when my opponent can play "average" and still win, simply because their form is better, or they got lucky with their position. I don't want to lose to luck, so i try not to win by it. That is my philosophy: I don't want to put my opponent at a disadvantage, because when I win, I want you to know that I outplayed you at every step of the game. Hence, why I complain so much about my blocking in important games. I'm already at a huge disadvantage, why does TAO feel the need to punish me even more?

Oh well, I'll get over it, and when I find an opponent who shares these feelings, I will be happy. I have found many rushers who are very nice about the games, realizing I really have no chance, and congratulating me on my good play. "Wow, I only won by 3." Comments like those make me happy, because they recognize my play, even if the game's outcome does not reflect it. That is really all I strive for, respect. Many people equate respect with stats, so having good stats is not such a bad thing. But when you compromise your reputation and your honor for those stats, it crosses the line. So when you play me, I'll be using that form right there. Fell free to bomb me, rush me, whatever you want to do. Pack all your pyros on the front row right in front of me for all I care, and I'll see how well I can play. Just please don't lose, cause I'd hate for you to be embarassed. For the rest of you, try and let your play speak for you, not your formation. Don't be afraid to lose, if you know you played your best.

[bludhoundz]

I've played him on several occassions on army..I think I've won more of the exchanges (though I'm not completely sure).

Finally one game where I had a power turt vs. his rush on its "weak" side, and I got lucky, he complained how I was always a lucky bastard and thats the only way I won.

However, I do know that in one game he got incredibly lucky and I still won by a few units. In our turtle game, where he also used that formation on me (opp sides though), I won.

I don't have a particular liking for the amount he bitches about luck, particularly because that gets on my nerves like nothing else, but also that when our in all of our games about evened out yet he called me lucky..

He also once argued with me while I was on my mod account, telling me he could say fuk because the admins wanted that to be allowed since it obviously wasn't filtered.

Whatever, I don't like the kid, even if he's a good player, but I'd rather stay out of it..

[Wolfman]

Whatever, I don't like the kid, even if he's a good player, but I'd rather stay out of it..
chicken mod!

:p

hehehehe

bite me

wolfy

[Cuathon]

man, this kid used to be cool and was in my secondary gold clan, them i met him on army and won4/5, that equaled 0 stat btw, then he gets so incredibly lucky every game from then on, and also claims to forget to take off his DSM. i did overreact a few times when he got the lamest luck for about 3 games wehn i was pwning him. but although i used to respect him alot, i now never play games with himas the experience is never fun.
in short, he sucks ass as a person and is pretty good at the game.

[Speed Demon]

Manon is a very good player. He hasn't done anything bad to me or cheated in any forms. Hes one of the few people that are online a lot and are always up for a game. I've played him twice, and were 1-1. We've never turtled yet though. He's a good player and if he matures, he'll be respected.

Also, you're right about the stats. He was in my clan at one point, and I asked for a game? He said no, because he wouldn't get any stats, or he told me to leave and then join back after the game. I thought it was pretty stupid...but w/e.

[bludhoundz]

chicken mod!

:p

hehehehe

bite me

wolfy
wolfchicken. ;)

[Glamdring]

Uh... back in my day, that *was* a turtle.

Granted, an unorthodox turtle, but that doesn't mean it wasn't turtle.

Not saying I think what he did is right... but it sounds like you were already ready to be pissed off at him, and unless he'd come out with the perfect example of monkus's turtle rules, you'd have jumped on him.

[~GooseR~]

see through deception :cool:

[kegsworth]

I challenged him to a same-side rush today, he had a good set, but luck was on my side. I had 2 screenies that I had minimized, but when I clicked a link on a friends IM, opened it up in the paint window.

Anyway, he was pretty rude and mean, not to mention just plain n00bish. But as someone recently posted (can't remember who >_<), he got polite after I came with the beatdown.

[Bottle]

You have to be very careful when offering a turtle that you make 100% sure it's not a Legends turtle. Those are "who gets first turn wins" contests if you get same side, which I personally don't find much fun.

Yes, the kid's an idiot. But don't worry about it too much, KB.

[FryLock]

Just had another amusing game with firenoob. We played free, and I used a weird form, sort of a spread, but a spread that folds very quickly into a defensive turtle. However, I was able to get behind his lines with 3 units take his cleric pretty early.

Regardless, about 3/4 of the way through, he starts griping about how "your form really wasn't a free form." I wish, I wish I had taken a s/s of that, because that was one of the most ridiculous things I'd ever heard. I thought freestyle meant do anything...silly me. :rolleyes: It was only topped by his explanation as to why my form wasn't a real free form: "your emphasis is on defense, not attack." Oh. Gee. My mistake, there.

So I told him that I must be a pretty bad player, because with my defensive form, I got behind his lines and made a cleric kill. He didn't say anything. Then, at the end, I made a ridiculously stupid move that gave him a huge opening and he started talking again: "you see that move wasn't smart, now I will win." But, of course, I wasn't done yet, I came from behind and pulled off the win. :cool:

The crowning touch was the conclusion where he complained about blocking. True, his scouts didn't block any side shots (that was all I tried on them). But he seemed to forget that his DSM blocked 2 kill shots, enabling him to kill a knight and scout, and his dragon blocked a kill shot that gave him another knight. My tally, aside from a few unimportant knight blocks was a scout side that ultimately didn't do anything for me. But to hear him tell it, that block for me, combined with his awful luck changed the game. He would have had me!

I guess I'm lucky to have escaped in one piece! :eek: :D

[KBHoleN1]

I love you Fry. My soul burns.

[FryLock]

You are the 2nd person on the forums who has said that to me tonight. It must be my new cologne. :cool:

[~GooseR~]

i love you too? :confused:

[mattroe]

I have played manonfire101 (AKA Swordsworn on Legends) approximately 42 times, won 21 and lost 21. Probably played him more than anyone in TAO, excluding Apocalypse. That was when manonfire101 was on Great Lakes. I never had a problem with him, really. He was always up for a game when I was and our games were always exceptionally close (so many of them were decided by one late-game shot, like my 11 Dragon vs. his 16 GA).

He's typically used that same turtle, but it's not really his. That's the turtle carlos22, Dan U, most experienced Legenders and noob FPS turtlers have been inclined to use. I'm not surprised to see an Alpha turtler get upset over it. I myself am disgusted when someone calls it "skill" to bum-rush me with that formation (I have recently noticed a trend, where people will use this form without even stoning, and just all-out rush my Cleric or Scouts), but since it doesn't really break any of my rules, I just put up with it. Some people actually do define it as a turtle, but I think many believe it safer to say it's just an excuse to rush without "rush"ing.


I have swordsworns pw. It is not my acc though.

[I BEAT MATHEWS]

I honestly don't see anything wrong with him. I asked him for a turtle game, and he said alpha rules, I didnt have to. He had his stoney on the back row, and he didnt have an additude throughout the entire game.

And he is a good player.

[ReTodd]

I beat manonfire yesterday and when the realisation that I beat him set in, he made some douchebag comment about myself and my clanmates before surrendering. His explanation was that he lost 100 in stats that day.

[BaxVarlet]

Manonfire is a good guy. He's a little emotional sometimes, (Oh dear god my ass tumor is flaring up!) but if ya don't go in thinking he's a douche, he's usually not.

[ReTodd]

if ya don't go in thinking he's a douche, he's usually not.
I didn't. I actually play him occasionally on rev. He was used to me using a turt but I switched it up and used a rush and beat him. He was a sore loser with impulse control issues.

[BaxVarlet]

That wasn't specifically in reply to you, but I get what you're saying. He's somewhat immature, but goes along with his age. Meh, I haven't played him on a bad day i guess.

[FryLock]

Well, after he proceeded to make up a story about having a tumor in his ass (I'm not kidding) I lost any respect I might have ever been convinced to have for him.

Apparently, the "life-saving operation" to remove the tumor took place yesterday. However, he was on TAO during the morning and afternoon when I popped in, and he was on this morning.

Maybe it's just me, but the day of a life-saving operation, I'd be in the hospital or with my family. Also, I don't know of any planned operation that happens on a saturday night. Finally, if the operation was as serious as he claimed, there's no way he's out of the hospital and back playing TAO the following morning.

What a little liar! Stuff like that reallllly pisses me off.

[mattroe]

Well, after he proceeded to make up a story about having a tumor in his ass
Lmao that is the funniest thing Ihave heard this week.

[KBHoleN1]

I want to apologize to everyone in the Rev lobby the other day. I did not come on with the intention to fight with manonfire, but he was in the lobby and started bitching at me. This was when he made up the tumor story Fry talked about, and cussed me out many times in the lobby. He's lucky I didn't s/s it and get him banned. The kid had pissed me off one too many times, and he refused to discuss the here, so I let him have it. I'm sorry. Until he has the balls to come and lie about it this thread, where the proof is posted in front of his eyes, I will not speak of it again.

He whined and cried for a while about me "ruining his reputation," and he threw in a few comments about myself. From the stories I have read in this thread from other people, he didn't have much of a reputation to ruin, but I guess its gone now. I didn't ruin it, he ruined it. I realized my "proof" was not conclusive, which was I posted here and waited for things to develop. I think this thread, coupled with his behavior in the lobby, has given my claims a little more credibility. This kid is a joke, he is a chronic liar, and could care less about who he pisses off, as long as he gets what he wants out of it.

Manonfire, you picked the wrong person to do this to. While officially there is nothing I can do to stop you, I can expose you, and I have. You deserve everything you get, because you thought you were operating free from impunity. Too bad I took so many screenshots, and captured your exact words. You tried lying to me about what occurred in the game, but when I pointed you to the screenshots, and asked you to post in this thread, you had nothing to say. Why is that? Because you can't lie your way out of this one. Good luck with the rest of your TAO career, hopefully you can gain a little humility and some honesty from this experience.

And I'm not above revealing my personal feelings and the reason I made this thread. Revenge. And damn I'm good at it.

[Tag Captain]

a story about having a tumor in his ass
I just had to post this, it was too good to miss:

He does have a tumour stuck in his ass. It's called his head.

[Pieface1337]

I just had to post this, it was too good to miss:

He does have a tumour stuck in his ass. It's called his head.

ewww... which one? :confused:

[ReTodd]

Well, after he proceeded to make up a story about having a tumor in his ass (I'm not kidding) I lost any respect I might have ever been convinced to have for him.

He could be confused after I tore him a new one the other day. It is likely he mistook the symptoms of a ReTodd beatdown for colon cancer.

On a side note, one of my friends had colon cancer and had to wear around a colostomy bag for a couple months. He would lie to girls and tell them he was self conscious about his body so he could keep his shirt on while hooking up so he wouldn't have to explain "the bag". Having a bag of poo strapped to your chest would probably be a deal breaker for most girls.

[Dan_F_U]

First LT..there is nothing wrong with my turtle and its gettn annoying how you say my turt..is more like a rush. Let me explain a few things before you blow ur top: I got the idea for MY set from Wolfman and orlandy..when I jus started to turtle..they smeared me across the board plenty of times and I noticed that setup. I typically dont use that setup. I tend to ask for a stoney back row game...if I dont get it..I use that. I like to use it...but dont label me because of that.

Now...the manonfire101 issue. Before I start to flame his sorry ass...he is also jjdeath and A|C|E on Army. He has others but i dunno.

When I first met this arrogent sh*t...I tried to be gentle. He started by sucking up to me and commenting my turtle skills and asking to be trained. I told him I only spar but gave him pointers. Sooo..its was all good...in beginning.

I played this guy so many times. Most of our freestlye games...I say I win majority, altho free games are more of a toss up.

Turtle games...I clean the floor with him...its sad really. I beat him extremely bad each chance we play. One time he beat me...1. Just because it was same side and he stuck stoney in front of cleric (even after I said stoney on a wall)

He is EXTREMELY DISRESPECTUFL in the lobby and in game. If he does beat me..he often says gg in lobby...which is rude if you know what im sayn... He then will ramble on about random things...so annoying. I dont flame him much...I just tell him the truth and try to calm him down each time but he is too immature to understand. He is 12 years old...so yes..a little immature is expected but he is totally annoying.

Im sorry but I usually take my problems up on forums and not too much in game. This kid takes it to a whole nother level...like he wont shut up about nuthn. I actually frontline rushed with a GA vs him...for hell of it. GA was on opp side from his anti..and he began telling me how the GA weakens my stratagy and yadadadada *smack*

Also I had dsm in the game...and each time (2 games) he got first move and moved beastie to hit dsm and knight side...and both games I coulda walked dsm up and burned tons of stuff plus cleric , but I rarely use dsm or bomb...so I didnt catch it. I dont play free games with this kid anymore because of the arguements and its really just a toss up (during 2 games. he won first..i won second) Units are so close together..anything can happen.

I now just stick to turtle and rape him hardcore

[Wolfman]

First LT..there is nothing wrong with my turtle and its gettn annoying how you say my turt..is more like a rush. Let me explain a few things before you blow ur top: I got the idea for MY set from Wolfman and orlandy..when I jus started to turtle..they smeared me across the board plenty of times and I noticed that setup. I typically dont use that setup. I tend to ask for a stoney back row game...if I dont get it..I use that. I like to use it...but dont label me because of that.


which tur set u r talking about?

btw when u just started to tur.. orlandy was my best student... n wolf was his coach.... so your idea of YOUR set don really comes from orlandy.... it is mine... :P don get confused.

wolfy

[Geoffrey]

lmao Wolf, Manonfire/jjdeath/Ace is a noob honestly i log onto rev with my account in XF and for no reason he starts givin me shit for it and everything honeslty he is the most immature 12 year old i have even encountered

[Dan_F_U]

which tur set u r talking about?

btw when u just started to tur.. orlandy was my best student... n wolf was his coach.... so your idea of YOUR set don really comes from orlandy.... it is mine... :P don get confused.

wolfy

Not tryn to give anyone credit for the setup. I call it Power Turtles. Stoney in corner you kno?

I pretty much got a perfected set and I wub it!!! It was much better before changes...for power vs power anyways.

Student ...teacher..w/e..I was just a stranger passing by :P

Actually I really should thank you wolfy. If not for your consecutive whoopns on me..it may of taken me longer to adapt to changing from noob rush to turtle. I started to anti and turtle more every since then and my skills have improved...well better then when i first played you anyways lol.

[Match Strike]

Man, reading people's experiences with this little twit is like deja vu.

I've played him several times, and we have a minor spat (or larger) in nearly every one. We're 2-2 as far as I can remember, and I freely admit he's better than me freestyle, but the only turtle game we played I destroyed him.

The one rush vs. rush game we played that I won he accused me of basically being the world's luckiest person, which apparently not only won me the game but was my fault, and I should do something to fix it (besids admitting I had some lucky blocks).

OK, but he apparently had completely forgotten the side block his dsm got (a hit for the kill) which allowed him to take scout and dragon perhaps, althoug I can't remember really about the latter.

But yeah, our turtle game we got same sides, he got first turn. Fortunately for me he wasn't using that stone in front of cleric deal. I don't usually power turt but I had decided (knowing that he might be the type to power turt) to use probably the world's most un-cheap power turt; two knights in the front row, stone golem back row with dragon and mud, mud being on the second to back row (out of reach of a stone group). he had one of those furgon, wisp, two knight forms, with stone in corner above cleric.

After I push back his mud/wisp offense losing only a bunch of health on a scout (to die soon after) he starts throwing out how lucky I am.

well, you guys get the idea.

[KBHoleN1]

In Rev lobby the other day, Wolfman was joking around, trying to start a little trouble (hehe), and he asked if manon and I were going to discuss the issue some more. Obviously I said no, and manonfire said (and I paraphrase) "I don't talk to people like KB". Funny, cause he asked me for a game yesterday - I politely declined. I haven't found one person who can stick up for this kid's morals, and that is sad. He had to know this was going to happen, it was just a matter of time before he pissed someone off. But it's still my fault for "ruining his reputation". ROFL.

[Quattro]

In Rev lobby the other day, Wolfman was joking around, trying to start a little trouble (hehe), and he asked if manon and I were going to discuss the issue some more. Obviously I said no, and manonfire said (and I paraphrase) "I don't talk to people like KB". Funny, cause he asked me for a game yesterday - I politely declined. I haven't found one person who can stick up for this kid's morals, and that is sad. He had to know this was going to happen, it was just a matter of time before he pissed someone off. But it's still my fault for "ruining his reputation". ROFL.

Did manon go to the "Dont make fun of me, i have a sickness" ?

[Wolfman]

don make fun of manon, cuz wolf got a feeling he is somehow related to *the nothing* :P

wolfy

[Match Strike]

I don't think he's a prolific cheater like *TN*, he's just immature.

[Lonely Tylenol]

First LT..there is nothing wrong with my turtle and its gettn annoying how you say my turt..is more like a rush. Let me explain a few things before you blow ur top: I got the idea for MY set from Wolfman and orlandy..when I jus started to turtle..they smeared me across the board plenty of times and I noticed that setup. I typically dont use that setup. I tend to ask for a stoney back row game...if I dont get it..I use that. I like to use it...but dont label me because of that.

My apologies. I used your name because I've seen you use the turtle on more than one occasion and you're definitely one of the most notable people to use it, so people can identify it easier through their experiences with you.

[Forest_Archer]

I have like a 5-3 record with him. He's pretty good, but he's fickle sometimes.

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

2-0 Vrs him, both free no DSM. First time he bitched about how DSM are part of the game, but he got over it. I got a quick cleric kill with a beasty both times, then brought it home with frosty rape. Only time he was discrespectful was wehn my beast blocked a frontal which enabled a knight/scout kill, which ultimately didnt matter because they were both 1 hit, it just made it easier for me. Second time was about the same, even luck with him lucky on a dumb muddy advance, but w/e, i took that one too :cool:

Conclusion: Good player, shitty sport

[Dan_F_U]

He just complains too much and when he jokes...or is being sarcastic..you can never tell. So that makes situations worse. I think he beat me 1 time in turtle (cuz he used stoney in front of cleric after i said not to) But i beat him prolly other 10 times. Free games. Hes beatn me prolly 4-5 times but Im sure Ive won the majority. I always anti rush vs his all out frontline...and its same thing over and over...jus he gets smart sometimes :D

[Tag Captain]

First time he bitched about how DSM are part of the game
Maybe that's because it is?

I mean, if it wasn't meant to be there, Seed would have taken it out or not introduced it at all.

Maybe you ought not to set up with all your units in a nice burnable position instead?

[Match Strike]

Maybe that's because it is?

I mean, if it wasn't meant to be there, Seed would have taken it out or not introduced it at all.

Maybe you ought not to set up with all your units in a nice burnable position instead?
Manon didn't have to accept the game. You play turtles, don't you Bottle?:rolleyes:

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

Maybe that's because it is?

I mean, if it wasn't meant to be there, Seed would have taken it out or not introduced it at all.

Maybe you ought not to set up with all your units in a nice burnable position instead?

:dry: DSM do 1 thing, sit there, do some damage, then unleash the dragon. They require little, if at all any skill to use, and my set is like alot of others, you can hit 3 units at most :rolleyes: But it still is a cheap unit, 27 unblockable, to 4 spaces, with a possible of hitting 5... Yah, what a strategical unit :rolleyes:

[Dan_F_U]

If it didnt power up rest of pyros...it wouldnt be so bad. I dont run into bombs that much but new changes make it a little easier.