Invisible Children

[HorNeT]

Invisible Children

Right now, children are being abducted from their homes; from their very bed in which sleep on every night; where some will sleep there for eternity. The L.R.A. (Lord’s Resistance Army) (a rebel group in Uganda) kidnaps, trains, and brain washes thousands of innocent kids, each month. Why, you ask? For their army of children, bread for one purpose, to overthrow the Ugandan military/Gov. These kids who have been abducted are beaten, lives are threatened, and have seen much more than many of us will ever want to even think of in our lifetime. They have seen other children whipped, shot, murdered, and tortured in front of their very eyes. Taught only how to use a weapon, clean it, reload it, and how to kill any man that tries to stop them from achieving their goal, these children are the most brutal, savage, and relentless group of children imaginable. These LRA children soldiers are not allowed to cry, show emotions, or even think of home. The penalty for any of these emotions if death. "If you are crying, you must be thinking of home, and thinking of running away, so we have to kill you so make sure that you do not run away." – roughly what a LRA soldier would say to a child who was crying or talking about his home. All of these children are forced to fight, kill, and abduct others. If a child is caught trying to run away or mentioning running away, the kid will be taken out, so the kid cannot run away. After a battle, or firefight, the wounded or children soldier who are hurt too much to get up and follow are left on the battlefield to die. Some of these left-over children are picked up by re-habilitation and re-cover centers, and are brought back to the missions and other places, where they are taught basic behavior and life skills. They had none of those while being in the LRA.

Thousands and thousands of children in Uganda live in fear of the LRA. They will not sleep in their own homes. They walk about 20-40 miles each day, to seek refuge in a hospital where they can sleep for a couple hours, where they can feel safe, and not be abducted by the LRA. All that just to get up at the break of dawn to walk another 20-40 miles back to their homes to see their family and friends, go to school, and start walking back to the hospital where they are cramped by the hundreds in the basement of the hospital.

While America and other countries have troops in the Middle East and other places around the world, trying to help out the world, they over-look what could be the biggest problem in the world; the guerilla war and the fear thriving in Uganda and other African countries. The children of our world are our future, so why not try and save them? Why not save thousands of lives, which could lead to great doctors, lawyers, and other great professions throughout the African countries?

I am not trying to put down America or any other countries. I am an American, and proud to be one.

What do you think America and the other great countries of the world could do to save thousands of innocent children’s lives, and save the future of the world?

What are your emotions and thoughts while hearing only a little bit of education I have on the subject?







If you are interested about learning more please visit www.Invisiblechildren.com

I really would like to have a nice discussion about people’s thoughts/Ideas about the RLA, the civil war, and the invisible children.

[Zander]

im gonna visit that link, then I'll come back and edit to what i have to say :)

edit: I "committed my city", so I should be getting a letter in my email.This is a gigantic problem i completely agree...but you can't say outright that this is the biggest problem and needs the most attention.American troops are in Iraq trying to prevent a civil war right now thats occuring in...4 provinces i believe?Even still we should be able to send out some of our forces at least to help these kids...i saw that movie "lord of war" and when it showed the part about children armies i didn't think twice about it, now you got me all worried about them :( .If there are any other sites you have with information please post them or private message them to me.

[uniquinous]

Was the above post created of your words, or was that copied directly from somewhere?

[Soda]

So easy trying to suggest the solution to the problem from the sit in your house.

[Teacher]

This is a tough subject and i'm sure everyone has their own personal beliefs and point of views. You have the point of view of most Americans that read and see this type of stuff happening in different countries. They think that we should send troops over to help these children. From a soldiers point of view (not all, but many) the main complaint within the service is the fact that they are sent overseas to a foreign country to help protect it from civil war, violence, etc. and yet, soldiers are very rarely tasked to do something for the children within our own country. Our soldiers these days are so spread out its unbelievable, if there is some sort of conflict then the US sends over some troops. I have personally been over to Kuwait two times within a year; our main purpose was to deter any problems Iraq might want to give Kuwait, and to train Kuwait's troops. Me personally, I would much rather have been at home with my own children to help raise them, instead I was tasked to help the Kuwait government do a job it apparently could not handle. Those two rotations costs me a marriage to a certain extent, and all we managed to teach their soldiers is how to sit on the gun tube of the tank as they drove by while playing war games waving their hands like morons. :angry:
I suppose what I'm saying is the point of the matter although extremely harsh is I believe we have played world police enough and maybe should start paying more attention into our own backyard rather than trying to put ourselves into more of a deficit by providing food, shelter, care and training for each country and their citizens who can't afford to pay us back.

[Zander]

and yet, soldiers are very rarely tasked to do something for the children within our own country

Is it not the duty of the wealthy to aid the poor?

[Jeffery]

US rarely cares what happens in Africa. There's not enough oil in Uganda to make it worthwhile.

[Teacher]

Is it not the duty of the wealthy to aid the poor?

To some aspect I suppose it is. Here is a question though, how wealthy do you consider us to be? How do you define wealth? Sure compared to many other countries we are "rich", but that is the country as a whole. Do you know anyone on some sort of welfare, maybe a family member or friend that is having problems paying for health care because of insufficient or lack of health insurance. I know quite a few, as a matter of fact my children's health insurance is through the state because I can't afford close to $400.00/month for health insurance and pay deductibles and co-pays. My point is, although I do feel for people in Africa and many other countries, to put it bluntly, we're not rich enough to render aid where the US will not receive anything in return, more or less it boils down to what Jeffery said.

[Madars]

US rarely cares what happens in Africa. There's not enough oil in Uganda to make it worthwhile.

Oprah cares...did I mention she's fat?

-Mad-

[Riathmus]

That's really sad. But Hitler did the same thing, and he's dead now. So the L.R.A. is just copying him in what he did. And who would want to kill the lord unless he's an absolute monarch?

[Cuathon]

i think we should stop speding billions in other countries and fix our own problems, seriously.

we have an enormous national debt, millions of starving people living in the street. when everyne in our country has shelter, food, and other basic things then we can go around killing some more people for oil.

[Hellblazer]

That's just disturbing that people would even think to do that.

[boogieman]

That's just disturbing that people would even think to do that.
it's a way of life for them. not to say it's right, because it most definately is not. what can we do about it? well it's like saying that we can go to iraq and free everybody from saddam's rule. it's not going to happen without help from the local population. but it's going to take a lot of manpower to stop it, if we ever end up going over there to help. but in my personal opinion, we need to do something about ourselves here in the US before pointing the finger at other nations and saying "oh, dear. look at that. we need to go fix their problems." when we have many over here ourselves. examples: abortion. homosexuality. pedophila. racism. all those plus countless others.
so to me, it's okay to go help others, but it would reflect better on us as a nation if we wouldn't go after others before checking ourselves first. what's that verse in matthew? ah, yes. "How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?" not to bring up a religious discussion, but that makes more sense than trying to go fix other people's problems.

[Cuathon]

you sir are the most complete moron i have ever met. if one were to look at that green smilie one would know what i am talking about. the idea that we should "fix" homosexuality is just... ugh!
if we were in RL i'd punch you in the face or kick you right in the balls.

possibly you shoud fix YOUR problems before ommenting on our nations much less the worlds.

[Excaliber]

What do you think America and the other great countries of the world could do to save thousands of innocent children’s lives, and save the future of the world?



The U.S. has plently porblems of their own. There are many other countries that can help eachother out.

[Cuathon]

yay! go excal!

[Excaliber]

yay! go excal!
lol I think fixing all the potholes would be a good start..;) :) :p

[Cuathon]

damn right it would nub!!!!!111!111!11!! :)

[boogieman]

true dat.

[Cuathon]

boogie, read my post about you, so you will argue and i can insult yu some more.

[boogieman]

i don't want to argue... it makes for bad relationships/bad feelings. insult me all you want to anyway.
EDIT: i've already read your post on mine.

[Cuathon]

but im bored! i wanna fight!

the HP fight is pretty much over, only about 15 people commented on it anyway. i need something to argue about!

[boogieman]

naw... go ahead and slaughter me... :butcher:
i was just stating my views on the subject...

[Cuathon]

its not that you said your opinion, its just that i cant not argue with someone who said what you said, and i'll go to extra effort if im bored enough.

[boogieman]

pm me with your concerns...

[Cuathon]

but there would no drama and people saying we are both dumbasses :)
pm is a little too muc work, im not that bored.
ive found one on one arguements to be fairly worthless anyway.

[boogieman]

ok... so where do we go from here? :D

[HorNeT]

Was the above post created of your words, or was that copied directly from somewhere?
They are my words, and my thoughts about the problem

This is a tough subject and i'm sure everyone has their own personal beliefs and point of views. You have the point of view of most Americans that read and see this type of stuff happening in different countries. They think that we should send troops over to help these children. From a soldiers point of view (not all, but many) the main complaint within the service is the fact that they are sent overseas to a foreign country to help protect it from civil war, violence, etc. and yet, soldiers are very rarely tasked to do something for the children within our own country. Our soldiers these days are so spread out its unbelievable, if there is some sort of conflict then the US sends over some troops. I have personally been over to Kuwait two times within a year; our main purpose was to deter any problems Iraq might want to give Kuwait, and to train Kuwait's troops. Me personally, I would much rather have been at home with my own children to help raise them, instead I was tasked to help the Kuwait government do a job it apparently could not handle. Those two rotations costs me a marriage to a certain extent, and all we managed to teach their soldiers is how to sit on the gun tube of the tank as they drove by while playing war games waving their hands like morons. :angry:
I suppose what I'm saying is the point of the matter although extremely harsh is I believe we have played world police enough and maybe should start paying more attention into our own backyard rather than trying to put ourselves into more of a deficit by providing food, shelter, care and training for each country and their citizens who can't afford to pay us back.

I agree with most of this statement.

Do you know how big Uganda is? About the size of Washington. It wouldn't take very long to go in, find the LRA, demolish them, and help the Ugandans get their lives back.

Also, I wasn't talking about just America. I was talking about every other country that has a defined military and could possibly take some of their soldiers and help Uganda.

[boogieman]

They are my words, and my thoughts about the problem
way to go, hornet. you have my congratulations. great thread!

[HorNeT]

"oh, dear. look at that. we need to go fix their problems."
Who helped America in their Revolutionary war? France. You can't just but it that way, these people need help.

There are recorded 1,000's per month dying in Uganda. Those are the only kids accounted for, the majority of the population in Uganda is not even recorded. So, we don't know how many are being kidnapped, brain-washed, and killed each month.

In my opinion, WE are not going to fix their problems, but help them fix their problems.

Thousands of kids do not sleep in their own beds, from the fear of the LRA. The only places they will sleep is where the Ugandan army surrounds their houses, to make the children feel protected. Even if we did something as small as that, it could benefit greatly.

[Teacher]

Do you know how big Uganda is? About the size of Washington. It wouldn't take very long to go in, find the LRA, demolish them, and help the Ugandans get their lives back.

Ok, now picture this, military goes in and attempts to get rid of the gorillas. First problem, for the most part, we are not trained in gorilla tactics, especially now we are more trained for suburban warfare. Second problem I see is what happens after we go there and begin our "war" Then we are also fighting those same little kids that are being trained to fight. How well would that go over with society when our soldiers have to actually hunt and kill the hard core children that we are trying to save. The government will not get itself into that mess, they're still trying to figure out how to justify the mess we are in now. As far as sending in a joint task team from different countries it could be feasible, but getting the countries to cooperate would probably be the most difficult. I'm sure Uganda would second guess any offer for us to go over and help for fear we will attempt to change their form of government while we're there. (not that we would do that:dry: )

[HorNeT]

The U.S. has plently porblems of their own. There are many other countries that can help eachother out.
Read what I actually typed before talking about only the U.S.

[HorNeT]

Ok, now picture this, military goes in and attempts to get rid of the gorillas. First problem, for the most part, we are not trained in gorilla tactics, especially now we are more trained for suburban warfare. Second problem I see is what happens after we go there and begin our "war" Then we are also fighting those same little kids that are being trained to fight. How well would that go over with society when our soldiers have to actually hunt and kill the hard core children that we are trying to save. The government will not get itself into that mess, they're still trying to figure out how to justify the mess we are in now. As far as sending in a joint task team from different countries it could be feasible, but getting the countries to cooperate would probably be the most difficult. I'm sure Uganda would second guess any offer for us to go over and help for fear we will attempt to change their form of government while we're there. (not that we would do that:dry: )
We wouldn't have to kill any children. We would go over there, seek out their leaders, and eliminate them. If any of their children soldiers shoot at us, we will have the right, then, to shoot back at them.

[HorNeT]

but there would no drama and people saying we are both dumbasses :)
pm is a little too muc work, im not that bored.
ive found one on one arguements to be fairly worthless anyway.
Could you please not spam up this thread? Thanks.

[imagination]

hornet i talked to you in game about this and i was interested and do truelly wish that something could be done about this now. I do wish that this could be stopped and in most likelyhood it could be stopped almost imediately. the problem is governments today are slow in reactions and to worried about looking good instead of doing whats right. The UN would take years to do anything about this and by then how many more children have died. people could donate money to the cause but what does that matter if the money isnt used properly. people say there are problems in america but what they dont say is that there will always be problems in america because there have always been poverty issues in every copuntry back to the begining. If someone says we shouldnt help because we have our own problems then you (in my oppinion) are very short sighted and ignorant of the fact that these are children that are having their lives taken from them. imagine if your own child was taken from you and trained to be a killer.

All it would take to stop this would be a swift resolution and team work of countries to assassinate the leaders. the ugandan government wouldnt be changed since the leaders are not part of the government, they are trying to overthrow it. the problem isnt that this shouldn't be taken care of, the problem is it wont because no one wants to be the one to go in and kill them just in case something goes wrong and they look bad.

[HorNeT]

I agree, totaly.

"I want to be a lawyer, but we have no money for me to get an education."

This wouldn't be a problem if all of Uganda wasn't spending their money on fighting the LRA, and trying to protect their children. They would have some money to start a good School service and get their children educated.

[Higher Plane]

i'd like to see you go over there and work as a solider for this, hmm?
you can say what you said because it wont affect you in any significant way.

[Kyir]

examples: abortion. homosexuality.

Lrn2think?

[Cuathon]

so true kyir :)

[imagination]

i'd like to see you go over there and work as a solider for this, hmm?
you can say what you said because it wont affect you in any significant way.
you do realize the its pretty much a volunteer army in the US. we arent forcing people to do stuff agaisnt their will. if they didn't want to go then they wouldnt (dishonorable discharge but they still done have to go) Also, how would you go about stopping this without soldiers... or does it not matter because "it wont affect you in any significant way."

[HorNeT]

i'd like to see you go over there and work as a solider for this, hmm?
you can say what you said because it wont affect you in any significant way.
What are you trying to ask?

Actually, I am planning in the next couple years, to try and get accepted into the Air Force military college. I want and will help my country and help others. If given the chance, I would go fight in Uganda to help the children.

[imagination]

only prob with that hornet is you will never set foot in uganda. there is no + side for a country to go there so they wont.

[HorNeT]

I was saying that if I had the chance to do something, I would.

[imagination]

true... i just felt like being a downer thats all :D

[Cuathon]

you do realize the its pretty much a volunteer army in the US. we arent forcing people to do stuff agaisnt their will. if they didn't want to go then they wouldnt (dishonorable discharge but they still done have to go) Also, how would you go about stopping this without soldiers... or does it not matter because "it wont affect you in any significant way."

i undertstand that perfectly well imag. i just really doubt that hornet would go over and do what he is suggesting himself.
plus i was being generally contrary cause im bored.

[HorNeT]

i undertstand that perfectly well imag. i just really doubt that hornet would go over and do what he is suggesting himself.
plus i was being generally contrary cause im bored.
If the U.S. Military ever decides to do anything in Uganda, by then I would most likely be in the Air Force, and could be shipped out to Uganda.

[Madars]

or kick you right in the balls.


You pussy,fight like a real man.

-Mad-

[Cuathon]

a real man fights to win. only little romantics think that crap about an honorable fight.

[HorNeT]

Can we please say on subject?

[Madars]

a real man fights to win. only little romantics think that crap about an honorable fight.

No...You're just taking the easy way out.What's the matter? Can't take a couple of hit to the face? If you can't,then you deserve to get knocked out.

-Mad-

[HorNeT]

Next person to spam the thread will be negg'd.

Please guys, I'm trying to have a discussion.

[Cuathon]

i dont even know what this kid looks like, its not like im gonna say: i disagree lets fight. i'd just bust him in the face.

[Megabyte]

[15:03] Hornet: byte post in my thread
[15:03] Hornet: now
[15:03] Hornet: : )
[15:04] Wowbagger: invisible children?
[15:04] Hornet: yea

you can't tell me what to do!

[meat.eater]

you can't tell me what to do!

Ha! You posted! You're his bitch![/brutally obvious]

I dont think anything I can add to this discussion will move it forward, so I'm going to refrain.

[Teacher]

We wouldn't have to kill any children. We would go over there, seek out their leaders, and eliminate them. If any of their children soldiers shoot at us, we will have the right, then, to shoot back at them.

I apologize for the delayed response. Busy around here :)

Anyhow in response to this I would like to give you a quick scenario that I see well occur. I'm not sure what your age is so if it sounds like I'm trying to insult your intelligence I'm not just want to make sure I am understood.

Ok, scenario: Team A is sent in to kill leaders. Leaders are somewhat like your cleric on TAO; he stands in the back and directs troop movements. In order to get to leaders, you must go through army, army currently consists of minor children. Minor children attack, adult soldier hesitates because he don't want to shoot a child, child shoots soldier, soldier dead, now possible family has no father or husband. Next another adult soldier shoots kills child. Team A is attacked by a platoon size element (30-60) possible kids, with anyhope Team A is victorious, but it comes with major losses to both sides. World goes ballistic because of the killing of "innocent" children.

Guerilla warfare is much the same tactics as terrorists use. Look at what is happening in Iraq, we the "allies" jab a stick into a hornets nests (Uganda) and all hell well break loose, the killing becomes more widespread, foreign countries begin to back out of situation. US being the bad ass :dry: it is, decides that it well not run, and sticks it out. This leads to more fighting more children being killed, more vets coming home with warped minds because they had to shoot children or seen it happen. World view of US goes farther down the tubes.

All this and maybe up to this point you have maybe killed 50% of the leaders.

As I said, I do feel for these people but this is a situation that I highly doubt the government will get too involved. Even if the allies were to be victorious it would still be considered a pyrrhic victory. Meaning the loss taken outweighs the victory that was made.

[HorNeT]

Team A is sent in to kill leaders. Leaders are somewhat like your cleric on TAO; he stands in the back and directs troop movements.
eh, we have GA's.

[HorNeT]

I apologize for the delayed response. Busy around here :)

Anyhow in response to this I would like to give you a quick scenario that I see well occur. I'm not sure what your age is so if it sounds like I'm trying to insult your intelligence I'm not just want to make sure I am understood.

Ok, scenario: Team A is sent in to kill leaders. Leaders are somewhat like your cleric on TAO; he stands in the back and directs troop movements. In order to get to leaders, you must go through army, army currently consists of minor children. Minor children attack, adult soldier hesitates because he don't want to shoot a child, child shoots soldier, soldier dead, now possible family has no father or husband. Next another adult soldier shoots kills child. Team A is attacked by a platoon size element (30-60) possible kids, with anyhope Team A is victorious, but it comes with major losses to both sides. World goes ballistic because of the killing of "innocent" children.
The soldiers will be aware that they will have to fire at children.

Plus, these children are not "innocent children", they are brutal children that will kill any man for no reason.

[HorNeT]

Guerilla warfare is much the same tactics as terrorists use. Look at what is happening in Iraq, we the "allies" jab a stick into a hornets nests (Uganda) and all hell well break loose, the killing becomes more widespread, foreign countries begin to back out of situation. US being the bad ass :dry: it is, decides that it well not run, and sticks it out. This leads to more fighting more children being killed, more vets coming home with warped minds because they had to shoot children or seen it happen. World view of US goes farther down the tubes.
The LRA isn't big enough for the killing to spread around the world.


Sorry for the triple post.

[Teacher]

The soldiers will be aware that they will have to fire at children.

Plus, these children are not "innocent children", they are brutal children that will kill any man for no reason.


Ok, i'm trying to figure out how to explain without sounding offended. A soldier is not going to take killing a child lightly. Mosts soldiers have trouble dealing with killing other adults and seeing the violence and bloodshed within a war.

As far as the innocent children, there was a reason for the quotation marks, society will see the US army killing children, and they will make those children innocent victims. As a soldier, I would agree they were not innocent, but the newspapers and article writers are not always there, they get their information from eye witnesses, and hear say, and pictures of the aftermath.

Edit: Ok, i guess I shouldn't have compared it to terrorist, what I mean is you attack the LRA because the government of Uganda has requested assistance, who do you think the LRA is going to attack, just the allied forces or the both the allied forces and the government that is obviously against them also.

[HorNeT]

I see where you are comming from, but in this case..

Killing some children will save many more.

And about the Shooting children thing, I know it will be a huge factor in the fight for the end of the LRA. Marines are told everyday that they will have to shoot children. How do I know this is true? My best friends brother enlisted in the Marines last year, and what they have to say every time they pull the trigger is "kill baby". Send in marines, they will be able to fire at children, even though they might be dramatized(sp?) over it, they will know the reality of what they must do.

[Teacher]

Ok, but although it may save many people and yes I do agree that it would be nice to save these children, what i'm trying to say is I really don't see any government doing it because of the way society will view it. Look at how people treated the Vietnam Vets, they were considered baby killers, although this does happen during wartime unfortunately, the implication was also towards the children the soldiers had to kill in self defence. You ask almost any person from a different country, Canada, France, etc, we are looked at like a bully for the things that we do already, just imagine what could happen when we start a war that consists of fighting children.

Simply stated, society will always see that killing children is wrong, and the only way for them to think otherwise is for them to go over and figure out how to defend themselves against the "innocent children" they claimed were murdered during the wars.

Edit: Sorry I missed this point, Marines what can I say? In a word "Brainwashed" don't get me wrong they are a serious fighting element in the U.S. Forces but unfortunately they are brainwashed, they may be able to go into battle and kill children, and like you said it could cause dramatization. Does the possible safety of these children warrant the costs that it will have on american soldiers, families and friends? If the government allowedt his to happen once, chances are they will allow it to happen again. So I go back to my original point, although I do feel for these children there are many things that our soldiers can do within our own country with less of a loss.

[HorNeT]

How are we bullies for saving thousands-millions of kids?

If someone told me that to my face I would slap them.

Who cares what the "society" thinks about us? We would be doing what is right.

[Teacher]

How are we bullies for saving thousands-millions of kids?

If someone told me that to my face I would slap them.

Who cares what the "society" thinks about us? We would be doing what is right.


I can understand your way of thinking, unfortunately, when it comes to politics and governments, that simply is not the reality.

[HorNeT]

That's why I think it should become a reality.

:) :p

Instead of caring about what other people will think of us (basically what every single person in this world's life is based on), why not do something because it's the right thing to do, instead of just trying to look like the good guy?

[Teacher]

After countless post we have finally come to an agreement. :D

[HorNeT]

:)

[smokeyham94]

It is a tradegy for such events to happen, but Uganda is not the only country with such problems. America has problems, Britain does, Africa itself has major problems to deal with. All of the countries right now are high in debt, just like our government. It would be hard for Uganda to recieve 100% attention.

[HorNeT]

Did I ever say 100% attention? And, I never said that Uganda was the only place with problems.

This WHOLE world is filled with problems that will never end.

In my opinion, though, Uganda is the place where there a major long term problems, which need to be corrected.

[smokeyham94]

I don't disagree..but I think it'll take some time before Uganda gets straightened out....

[lthlinjction]

... i wish i was invisible... :(

[HorNeT]

No. You don't.

These kids are invisible becuase they are not recorded, accounted for, known, or even have identities besides their names.

Most of the Ugandan children are orphans, and no one would even notice if they were kidnapped or killed, which most are.

[lthlinjction]

yea... but it would be pretty cool :)

[HorNeT]

Being abducted and abused at the ages of 5-12 would be cool?

Mentally scared for life.

Please tell me you are being sarcastic. I can't tell. :)

[lthlinjction]

no i mean literally being invisible... like hollow man. not the meaning of this thread.

i understand where you are coming from though. those children do not deserve that.

Edit: i didnt see that you edited the post up there. my mistake.

[HorNeT]

no i mean literally being invisible... like hollow man. not the meaning of this thread.

i understand where you are coming from though. those children do not deserve that.
Oh, ok. lol

I thought you were being a heartless moron. :) ;) :p

[lthlinjction]

haha no way. i'm not like wizzy ya know ;)

[HorNeT]

Hey now, no need to bash him.

[lthlinjction]

no he's a cool guy and everything. but i couldn't think of anyone else that would make that kind of joke on the forums.

[HorNeT]

I guess you could say that. :p

[Kyir]

The soldiers will be aware that they will have to fire at children.

Plus, these children are not "innocent children", they are brutal children that will kill any man for no reason.

Still children. some habits like not shooting kids are hard to get rid of

[HorNeT]

I'm not trying to say that shooting the children will be easy, everyone knows it will be very difficult.

I'm saying that these aren't normal children, so I have a different outlook on them.

Plus, as I said before, Marines are told everyday that they are going to have to shoot children, because the children won't hesitate to shoot them.
Soldiers know that if a child has a weapon, that they are dangerous(in this case, very dangerous) and will have to be taken down.

[Serge]

Ugh, killing is bad.

[HorNeT]

Ugh, killing is bad.
Not unless it's killing you! ;) :p

[lthlinjction]

are you a fan of capital punishment Hornet?

[HorNeT]

As in the death penalty?

[lthlinjction]

yes, like the lethal injection (my name) and the electric chair.

[HorNeT]

Yes, to a certian extent.

[Serge]

Ugh,killingisalwaysbad!
Also,Ifeelthedeathpenaltyisn'tasbadaslifeinprisons houldbe...

[HorNeT]

Formostprisoners,prisonisbetterthantheirnormallife .

Theygetthreemealsaday,shelter,andabedtosleepon.

[lthlinjction]

Yes, to a certian extent.
i completely agree with you. but sometimes it is taken too far.

you can't exactly teach people not to kill... by killing.

and some people put to death are actually innocent. the DNA test that they take sometimes don't come back in time for their execution.

[HorNeT]

That's the problem with the system.

Lots of people are proven innocent after being killed.

What does the gov. say?

"oops."

[lthlinjction]

yes exactly, they couldn't give a shit.

and people still think that the US govt. is perfectly fine as it is.

[HorNeT]

That's FAR from the truth.

[lthlinjction]

what are you referring to exactly?

[HorNeT]

The statement that the U.S. Gov. is perfectly fine.

[lthlinjction]

well... it's true. and overall, im still for capital punishment.

[HorNeT]

As am I.

But, what makes me mad, is that they haven't punished Andrea (Y)(G)ates yet. I hate how society controls the gov.

They won't punish her for killing all of her kids, but punish someone that was innocent. Hmm.

[lthlinjction]

what happened with her?

[HorNeT]

She's been re-tried a couple times now, or have you not heard her story?

[lthlinjction]

I havn't heard the story yet. Mind explaining what happened?

[HorNeT]

She's insane. Husband leaves her alone with kids everyday. She feaks out, kills her kids to save them from the devil.

She has four children I beleive.

[lthlinjction]

ohh wait, i did hear about that. i just never knew her name.

but yea, that is kinda crazy. they need to take some action and do something other than put her on trials.

didn't she kill her husband too?

[HorNeT]

No. He was at work when it all happened.

I saw him at Wal-mart.

I had the greatest urge to walk up to him and say "Buying some diapers for your kids?"

But I didn't.

[lthlinjction]

haha suuuure. he would have probably shot you :)

[HorNeT]

Or drowned me, to save me from the devil.

[lthlinjction]

but you are the devil :confused:

[HorNeT]

My class is starting a fundraiser for the Ugandan children, and I was thinking about starting a new thread on it.

Who all would donate? I would like to know how many people would, before I make a whole new thread on it.

[lthlinjction]

Everyone who actually cares.

[Fire Byrd]

yes, like the lethal injection (my name) and the electric chair.

Lol, I was trying to firgure out what your name was...;)

[HorNeT]

Lol, I was trying to firgure out what your name was...;)
Please, don't spam my thread.

pc+1

[lthlinjction]

if you do make the thread, lemme know about it. i'd like to check it out.

[HorNeT]

I'll be thinking about it.

our group is having a meeting tomorrow, and I will decide then.

[lthlinjction]

alright, cool.

im guessing you really are in djibouti?

[HorNeT]

do you know where that's at?

[lthlinjction]

in africa right? umm in the northeastern corner?

[HorNeT]

Yea, but I don't live there. I'm not there either.

Say this outloud.

"I live in djbouti."

Pretty funny.

[Jeffery]

Interestingly enough....

I saw the InvisibleChildren.com RV in town today.......

[HorNeT]

Really? That's awesome. Did they have a stand or something?

[Jeffery]

No,they had an RV sitting there, with a little info stand inside to show people.

They are on a USA tour with it or something. I just thought it was interesting seeing the RV after seeing the discussion here.

[TheSilverRider]

Please, don't spam my thread.

pc+1

Burnt. Just plain burnt.:bigsmile:

[HorNeT]

EDIT: My class will be starting the Fundraiser next Tuesday, my bad.