View Full Version : Reputation is Dumb
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 10:55 AM
And so are people that boost their reputation.
"I'll rep u if u rep me back."
I hate those people.
Just to show how arbitrary reputation is, look how high up on the rep list Xenon is. But this thread isn't about that.
Also, I'll be repping everyone who posts here. It might be a positive rep, but probably it'll be a neg.
Edit: Holy crap, look how long this thread has stayed open.. and in the top 5 or so threads in GD! I rule!
Memnarch
04-11-2006, 11:00 AM
I agree with you Match Strike. Why judge what someone has to say according to how many green or red boxes they have? And what's with the sayings that goes along with them? "Match Strike attracts all the attention." I dunno. People rep me randomly and I never understood it. I think rep should be used as a way to see how long they have been here or something, not a way to judge the value of their opinion.
TTitan44
04-11-2006, 11:02 AM
I see where Match Strike is coming from. You shouldn't be judged by how much rep you have or how much posts you have. You should be judged by what you say and how you act. And ppl who say "re me and ill rep u back" is stupid and that's why this thread was made. Ppl have a lot of green boxes but there posts and actions don't back that up.
HatchetKlown17
04-11-2006, 11:07 AM
I neg those who ask for rep, or rep me saying "Hit me back"...
I know damn well I am not in the top 30 most respected forumers, but according to the reputation charts I am. I have, and continue to support ridding this forum of reputation.
inked
04-11-2006, 11:10 AM
In some cases I like the reputation system, others I don't. I like how truly respected members do have high reputation. However, many average people get high reputation for imitating and pc+1 material. The only real benefit I see is new members can visually see who is "respected", but that is a bit of a stretch.
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 11:11 AM
I've possed every other post and negged every other post.
Edit:
Apparently now I've accomplished greatness. Thanks Vbulletin, you must know what you're talking about!!
Another thing I just thought of; why do negs do half as much as positive reps? That doesn't make logical sense. generally when I dissaprove of something strongly enough to neg the poster, It's because I REALLY don't like what I'm seeing. I'm guilty of positive repping for less of a reason simply because it doesn't promote ill will.
the bird
04-11-2006, 11:14 AM
lol i hate people who do that also. i think they have earn there rep by doing something. i will rep someone when i find one of there posts weather it be a gay post or a good post. i havn't repped someone in like a few days.
Doctor Love
04-11-2006, 11:14 AM
I think we should get less reps per day, it would decrease the amount of n00bs who have so many green boxes, and actually make people think about who they're going to rep.
kegsworth
04-11-2006, 11:17 AM
I agree with Match Strike and the rest who've posted here, I also have voiced my opinions in many a thread about it and got what I deserved: a neg. Why should a Colors and Numbers affect the way people think about your posting? I made a new forum account a while back to support my theory ( and many others as well) of rep tarnishing opinions. I posted something with this account and it passed off as a 'respected forumer with a lot of rep opinion'. But when I said the exact same thing with the other account, I was known as an egotist who needed to watch his mouth.
Even though it makes me smile when I login and see a few green reps in the UserCP, it doesn't mean a whole lot to me. And, I agree with Hatchet's point of view: It's always nice to see some red every now and again.
:)
Memnarch
04-11-2006, 11:18 AM
I think we should get less reps per day, it would decrease the amount of n00bs who have so many green boxes, and actually make people think about who they're going to rep.
Good idea, but I think it would be tough to figure out how to do that.
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 11:18 AM
In some cases I like the reputation system, others I don't. I like how truly respected members do have high reputation. However, many average people get high reputation for imitating and pc+1 material. The only real benefit I see is new members can visually see who is "respected", but that is a bit of a stretch.
I agree with everything here. In theory it's a way of seeing who you should pay attention to I guess. Also it could be said that if it wasn't reputation it would be something like post count or join date, but the way I see it, it's bad to have something specifically designed to create sort of classes ("have you made the full number of boxes yet?") and to have that system be so fundamentally flawed and open to abuse. Abuse such as what I'm demonstarting by randomly posing or negging people on this thread.
I think I negged you ink, but ironically I find you have very meaningful things to post.
Obviously any system can be abused to a degree, but plenty of systems can and aren't. Why is that?
KBHoleN1
04-11-2006, 11:19 AM
Since rep doesn't matter, we can all have some fun with it. Xenon was on the first page of rep as of this morning. The account has been inactive for over two weeks, which just means Krome is posting on another account. The neg bomb has begun to see how low he can go. Just a little fun, we're gonna see how long it takes to drop someone from the first page to the red, if it makes it that far, everyone feel free to join in.
http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/member.php?u=12709
Vision
04-11-2006, 11:21 AM
The reputation points that you have don't matter. I could care less what I have. I have problems with those who neg you for no reason at all. If I deserve a neg, then go ahead, I'll take the blame. But when you neg saying: just because I wanted to, is an inappropriate reason. Sure green boxes look nice, but really, they don't give you more say in a matter. Concluding rep is meaningless.
Xenon is a post-whore and doesn't deserve to be up on the first page and has also been inactive for awhile.
Memnarch
04-11-2006, 11:22 AM
Wowzers. I would hate to be on the recieving end of the Neg Bombers. Isnt there a clan on Rev for this. I think I was there when it was created. I cant remember for sure though.
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 11:24 AM
There's aslo the issue of "reputation inflation." It's like stat inflation only worse. I remember how amazing it was when warcow and some other people got up to three boxes and the label said they were diamonds int he ruff. it was a big deal, and it was obvious that they were some of the most respected members. On my original account, "sub the hendrix" It took me over a month of active posting to get to a second box. Not because I was getting negged a lot, but because most reps did one, two, maybe three points.
Woodland
04-11-2006, 11:24 AM
Since rep doesn't matter, we can all have some fun with it. Xenon was on the first page of rep as of this morning. The account has been inactive for over two weeks, which just means Krome is posting on another account. The neg bomb has begun to see how low he can go. Just a little fun, we're gonna see how long it takes to drop someone from the first page to the red, if it makes it that far, everyone feel free to join in.
http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/member.php?u=12709
Agreed, participate if you wish, he was a booster and a no good ass hole, so join the fun if you like and put a smile on some faces. :)
Vision
04-11-2006, 11:25 AM
I've seen people obtain 3 green boxes in one day maybe even one hour. It's totally different then what it used to be.
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 11:26 AM
There's a guy who made a thread saying not to neg Mitosis who had 7 green boxes. He has 5 posts.
Woodland
04-11-2006, 11:27 AM
Fastest person to gain Max boxes in minimum posts that I know of was Teacher, I think it was 15 or something like that but it was less than 20 that he done it in, just nuts.
Pyratheon
04-11-2006, 11:28 AM
For once something I agree with. Someone neg'd me just for posting on the forums. That's a retarded reason.
HatchetKlown17
04-11-2006, 11:28 AM
W00t!
According to DL im a n00b... I think your a little behind man, ive been a ch00b for a few weeks now. :D
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 11:29 AM
Call this a baseless accusation, but I think Netjakers have ahabit of positive repping each other for no good reason. :rolleyes:
Vision
04-11-2006, 11:31 AM
There's a guy who made a thread saying not to neg Mitosis who had 7 green boxes. He has 5 posts.
yea I know, that is too much. Mitosis deserves his rep though because he is respected on GL a lot. A lot of people from GL would also say so. But Mitosis is totally different from Xenon. Xenon is huge post-whore and rep-whore and acred a lot about rep.
Call this a baseless accusation, but I think Netjakers have ahabit of positive repping each other for no good reason. :rolleyes:
hm...:p
Poop Slinger
04-11-2006, 11:34 AM
Maybe this time it will make more sense..
But but.. rep means everything.. I mean without it the grass doesn't grow in my elitest yard! and the sky turns blood red at the howling of teh wolves.. and the clowns!!.. OH DEAR GOD THE CLOWNS!! They piss on your furniture!..
Rep makes the world go 'round everyone need rep.. without rep.. no one could possibly know just how important you are.. Without rep.. everyone is an equal.. we can't have that.. not in this world.. we need ways of making people seem more important.. ways to measure your macho-ness outside of penis and breast size!!.. I MEAN ITS REP FOR GOD'S SAKE!! Your nobody without your freaking 11 boxes!! If your not immortal.. or someone every dreams to be.. what good are you? Your just a stupid poster with stupid ideas and useless posts.
And if you aren't on the first page I won't even respond to you your pm's! F-ing noob you should know better than to slander the great currency of rep its more important then people, rep can't be replaced!
Yeah rep is THAT important... :rolleyes:
Morning Star
04-11-2006, 11:35 AM
I was going to start a thread exactly like this due to finding out that several people I know PM each other saying "please rep me and Ill rep you back" When i found this out it pissed me off big time. Just the fact there getting rep for doing absoulutely nothing erks me. I've had to work to get my measley 5 boxes and these other noobs are "IMMORTAL"
And if you aren't on the first page I won't even respond to you your pm's! F-ing noob you should know better than to slander the great currency of rep its more important then people, rep can't be replaced!
Yeah rep is THAT important...
Finally someone agrees with me ;)
KBHoleN1
04-11-2006, 11:38 AM
Call this a baseless accusation, but I think Netjakers have ahabit of positive repping each other for no good reason. :rolleyes:
It's not just jakkers. Almost every clan that has a large forum presence does some form of it. I do it with SI clanmates, but not necessarily because of rep boxes. I'll pos a clanmate just to say hey. I equate it to poking someone on facebook, for those of you who know that site. A lot of my rep is, I don't want to say undeserved, but coming from friends for no particular reason. I will neg or pos someone based on what happened outside of the forums as well, so it really does become about "reputation" and not about post count or join date. If you're well-respected, you will gather a lot of rep. Or you can cheat the system and a run a rep ring among your 3 accounts ... neg Xenon!
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 11:38 AM
Someone repped me for this thread saying I made an excellent point.
Do you get my point? Because that rep sort of would imply that you don't.
Wolfman
04-11-2006, 11:38 AM
rep is good, although u seldom get one from wolf, wolf is stingy with his rep, if u get one, that means u mean something.
wolfy
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 11:39 AM
It's not just jakkers. Almost every clan that has a large forum presence does some form of it. I do it with SI clanmates, but not necessarily because of rep boxes. I'll pos a clanmate just to say hey. I equate it to poking someone on facebook, for those of you who know that site. A lot of my rep is, I don't want to say undeserved, but coming from friends for no particular reason. I will neg or pos someone based on what happened outside of the forums as well, so it really does become about "reputation" and not about post count or join date. If you're well-respected, you will gather a lot of rep. Or you can cheat the system and a run a rep ring among your 3 accounts ... neg Xenon!
BG never did!
Or, if they did they left me out of it.
Oh, I lose either way...
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 11:40 AM
rep is good, although u seldom get one from wolf, wolf is stingy with his rep, if u get one, that means u mean something.
wolfy
That's becasue you use rep the right way. If everyone acted like you do with rep it WOULD mean something. but the system is too easily manipulated.
Poop Slinger
04-11-2006, 11:40 AM
Worked hard?? Do you have campaign buttons too? How does one work hard for rep? If your working for it.. isn't it as bad and asking for it?
Either people think your posts is worth repping for one reason or another.. good or bad.. If you have to shake your monkey maker ;) to feel like thats the only way to earn rep.. I think thats why rep has become such a giant commodity.
KBHoleN1
04-11-2006, 11:40 AM
BG never did!
Or, if they did they left me out of it.
Oh, I lose either way...
You're telling me you've never repped a friend who you ran across on the forums just because you wanted to say hey? Or a poster you hadn't seen in a long time pops in, and you send him a green box with the message "Hey! How ya been!" That's the stuff I mean.
EDIT: You people post to fast.
I've gotten a rep from Wolfy before, I guess that means I'm special.
I guess I am an abuser of the rep system, but not for any particular goal. I'm here to have fun, and I have fun repping the people I like. Sorry :(
neg Xenon!
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 11:41 AM
You're telling me you've never repped a friend who you ran across on the forums just because you wanted to say hey? Or a poster you hadn't seen in a long time pops in, and you send him a green box with the message "Hey! How ya been!" That's the stuff I mean.
of course I have. it's easier than sending a PM. But thinking about it has made me realise how stupid the whole thing is. I by no means use(d) rep perfectly.
kegsworth
04-11-2006, 11:43 AM
In all reality, rep shouldn't matter to anyone that has a life. Reputation is supposed to represent who you are, and I know I haven't accomplished greatness (slap me if that sounded emo).
Anyway, the system has been corrupted, and the only way out is to fix the system.
KBHoleN1
04-11-2006, 11:44 AM
Match, I know we're on the same page now.
And kegs, you mean I'm not actually immortal? Maybe I should rethink my plans for world domination. And here I was thinking I wouldn't die in the explosion.
kegsworth
04-11-2006, 11:46 AM
Match, I know we're on the same page now.
And kegs, you mean I'm not actually immortal? Maybe I should rethink my plans for world domination. And here I was thinking I wouldn't die in the explosion.
Haha, I'd rep you but . . .
Hell with it, have a rep. After all, it is here.
:)
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 11:46 AM
How can you dominate something that you blow up?
KBHoleN1
04-11-2006, 11:46 AM
Haha, I'd rep you but . . .
Hell with it, have a rep. After all, it is here.
:)
Yes! I'm corrupting the system!
Memnarch
04-11-2006, 11:47 AM
rep is good, although u seldom get one from wolf, wolf is stingy with his rep, if u get one, that means u mean something.
wolfy
I agree with you. I like the rep system in the sense it is supposed to show who the respected members of the community are. There are several reasons why I rep people. Usually it is when I agree with something they say, a cool pic or idea, or a really neat banner or avy. Mostly its if I agree with something or something that REALLY funny. Anytime a system like this is set up, someone will abuse it. I think clans like the Neg Bombers is a good answer for the rep whores. Maybe it will put them back in their place if there is enough particiapation.
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 11:48 AM
Only my random reps, and the neg ombers, don't solve the problem they just act out revenge.
Edit: My God, one of you get a new avatar!!
Memnarch
04-11-2006, 11:51 AM
Edit: My God, one of you get a new avatar!!
I guess I should. After all, it WAS KBHolen1 who found this one. How about it KB? Find me another pimp avy? I really dont care what it is as long as it is cool and animated. :) I guess pm it to me please.
_Thunder_
04-11-2006, 11:53 AM
Too many threads like this. My opinion is that if someone deserves it in your book then go for it, but if you just rep them to rep you back... that is just wrong.
ko71991
04-11-2006, 11:54 AM
I neg those who ask for rep, or rep me saying "Hit me back"...
I just ignore 'em. I can't even be bothered to neg them... That's how often I use the rep system. :)
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 11:54 AM
Too many threads like this. My opinion is that if someone deserves it in your book then go for it, but if you just rep them to rep you back... that is just wrong.
Pssh, I searched the top 10 threads of general discussion and found nothing.
inked
04-11-2006, 11:54 AM
Yes! I'm corrupting the system!
You have corrupted my system.
And don't PM it to him! Rep it to him! All the cool kids do it!
_Thunder_
04-11-2006, 11:56 AM
Thats cause you havent been here enough to see.
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 11:56 AM
Thats cause you havent been here enough to see.
Me? I've been here a month longer than you. Which makes me superior. see, I can be better than you AND not care about reputation. because join date is sooo not arbitrary.
_Thunder_
04-11-2006, 12:00 PM
Me? I've been here a month longer than you. Which makes me superior. see, I can be better than you AND not care about reputation. because join date is sooo not arbitrary.
Dude your still a noob if you dont know that there has been so many of these threads made.. 1 even from my BROTHER. (Blex)
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 12:04 PM
And what's the difference between bumping a thread that's been dead for half a year and making my own new one? I bet you would call me a nub for bumping an old thread too.
_Thunder_
04-11-2006, 12:05 PM
Depends what thread. I dont just call people noobs for no reason.
mantis33
04-11-2006, 12:05 PM
I dislike how people such as Krome sit in the lobby of Revelations begging for people to rep him.
"Anyone who gets me above 8,000 will get rep for life from me. Come on guys, rep me and I'll rep you back for a lot more." ~Xenon
I wish I had a screenshot of this cuz it was really funny how pathetic it was. Then Geeky and Mith came into the lobby and flamed the hell out of him. :)
KBHoleN1
04-11-2006, 12:18 PM
I dont just call people noobs for no reason.
However, I do.
Match, you're a noob for even being here. Much less making a new thread, jeesh.
uniquinous
04-11-2006, 12:19 PM
Yeah I'm stingy as well, and this is my problem. Last last night I found the imigration thread, and certain people made *excellent* points, and I wanted to show them how very impressed I was with those points (some moreso then others). Yet... my rep just... it's not worth much these days.
It's overinflated, much like stats, or Moose's ego. And this brings me to my point and the reason behind this problem: it's an open "rep economy". Take rep or stats to be equivalent to TAO money. In a better economy, there would be a set amount of money, and the only way for one person to gain it would be at the expense of another losing it (like stats). This is where the mismatch comes in. You need to earn rep starting from nothing, but you give it freely without losing anything. You also need to earn stats (presumably), but you start with 750!! It's like free money! And THIS is why stat inflation exists. The ability to give rep without losing any is why rep inflation exists.
Solution: uniquin stops talking now and let's others respond.
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 12:21 PM
Of course you can't start every account at zero stats.
"yay I win how much to I get?"
"Oh man you took all of my stats.. oh but we both still have zero."
KBHoleN1
04-11-2006, 12:24 PM
Of course you can't start every account at zero stats.
"yay I win how much to I get?"
"Oh man you took all of my stats.. oh but we both still have zero."
So what is the perfect solution? The golden days my friend, the golden days. Win - Loss - Draw.
Not really, I'm just messing around, but please flame me hard anyway.
uniquinous
04-11-2006, 12:29 PM
Of course you can't start every account at zero stats.
"yay I win how much to I get?"
"Oh man you took all of my stats.. oh but we both still have zero."
No, but you could make them *earn* the 750 (or however many) stats. Imagine that the noobletts would need to play 10 games before getting their starting stats? It would mean less people boosting off fresh accounts (not that they really can anymore...). It would mean less people trying to get a fresh account in every clan, because clan would then take someone who hasn't even played the bare minimum of games to get stats.
Also, this little system would help people as a learning period, so shooting your units in the back with the scout didn't actually count too much against you.
Crap, I shoulda made this in Suggestions, but I know it'd never be implemented.
KBHoleN1
04-11-2006, 12:32 PM
It's not a bad idea. But it's sort of hard to implement this late in the process. It would mean a complete stats overall, which would most likely lead to the restting of all accounts. There could never be enough support ot get this to happen. But still a good idea.
spirit ninja
04-11-2006, 12:37 PM
Yes I do belive it is dum and many ,many people abuse their power and ability of reputation...Observe these are just a FEW of the pwople that pointlessly neged me YESTERDAY ...http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8858/rteyrt7to.png (http://imageshack.us)
I think evveryone should be braught back to nothing and see how it was and have no rep....Its a chrisis now and is spreading all over TAO...Pointless negs...rep begging ....rep deals....you cant do any of it though it goes on day in and day out....I was outraged at how many negs i received for practicaly not saying a single word....
*The Nothing*
04-11-2006, 12:42 PM
I think evveryone should be braught back to nothing and see how it was and have no rep....Its a chrisis now and is spreading all over TAO...Pointless negs...rep begging ....rep deals....you cant do any of it though it goes on day in and day out....I was outraged at how many negs i received for practicaly not saying a single word....
Haha...that's hilarous. :cool:
Northwind
04-11-2006, 12:44 PM
If you really don't care about rep, then why does it matter if Xenon artificially boosts his?
Anyway (and more to the point) if you want to dismantle the rep system, all you have to do is to hand it out randomly -- neg rep good posts, pos rep good posts, neg rep bad posts, pos rep bad posts, pos or neg confusing posts, etc. If enough people do this, rep will lose its meaning. (Not that enough people are likely to go along with this.) We don't have to wait for the admins to act on this.
Having said that, I do wish that rep were dispensed with. I liked it better when people felt free to flame even the "respected vets" without worrying about getting their reputation shot to hell. I feel like people don't flame me like they used to -- either I'm getting less controversial or people fear my rep power. (I hope to hell its the latter.)
I do like Uniq's idea about having to pay rep to give it. I don't know what would happen under such a system, but it would be an interesting sociological experiment.
Also, I think that I've made a variety of good points here and this post is deserving of much positive rep. :dry:
spirit ninja
04-11-2006, 12:44 PM
Rofl..I dont know why but I just laughed really hard at your post..lol might have been the reason you bet that smiley their to make you look cool...lol
+reppy(not that it will help:confused: )
EDIT:to *TN*
uniquinous
04-11-2006, 12:44 PM
It's not a bad idea. But it's sort of hard to implement this late in the process. It would mean a complete stats overall, which would most likely lead to the restting of all accounts. There could never be enough support ot get this to happen. But still a good idea.
Yeah, i know - good idea, can't happen. Well, there's the chance it just happens with new greys only while leaving everyone else's stats the same. Even still tho, too late to actually implement.
THENOTHING: Could you please by any chance resize that picture, put it as a link, or a thumb? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
Teacher
04-11-2006, 12:47 PM
Fastest person to gain Max boxes in minimum posts that I know of was Teacher, I think it was 15 or something like that but it was less than 20 that he done it in, just nuts.
Hmm, not sure if should say how many post I had when i maxed out? :huh:
Anyhow, I will admit that I did not know what those green boxes meant until I had three of them. As I'm still new I was trying to repay everyone back for repping me by repping them. (didn't realize that was wrong at the time.) Fortunately, since I only had approx. 15 posts, it didn't mean anything with the exception of the note that went with the "grey" box that I sent.
I have had some conversations with people and realize what the rep system is supposed to stand for, and because of that, I believe I have only re-repped someone two or three times. Other than that they get it if they say or do something I agree with. As for my reps, it was not a matter of saying "Hey!! Rep me Rep me" I simply came in during the commotion of 12 getting banned and everyone raising hell with about it. I spent about an hour and a half reading all the posts then I posted my thoughts on the subject. That conversation I believe is the only reason I reached the goal that Bottle challenged me too before he left. As everyone has said, yes it does feel good to see another green box in the User CP but I have gotten a few random negs also which those I don't agree with. For example "I don't like teachers" and " I just have a habit of neg repping alternate accounts" If I say or do something wrong then plz feel free to neg me, but don't do it just because your bored.
I have had a couple people ask for reps just to have reps, but they have yet to see them unless they said something worth repping. I looked at my reps as a goal to reach (least amount of posts with max reps) which meant I only posted when I had enough experience/intelligence to posts. Other than that I tried to keep my mouth shut.
Ahhh, son made me lose train of thought halfway through this, I'll fix it later. :dry:
zzzaacckk
04-11-2006, 12:53 PM
many already know my point of view. I am also against rep. It is stupid and a number cant quantify reputation. when someone reps mea sking for rep I ignore them
spirit ninja
04-11-2006, 01:01 PM
many already know my point of view. I am also against rep. It is stupid and a number cant quantify reputation. when someone reps mea sking for rep I ignore them
Off topic: hi zzz
On topic: Its definitely tearing the forums appart....
Poop Slinger
04-11-2006, 01:17 PM
So in complete fairness.. Its I'll neg all those on the first page .. and pos all those on the last page until everyone has 2 boxes. One for them.. and one for their dog.
*The Nothing*
04-11-2006, 01:18 PM
Yeah, i know - good idea, can't happen. Well, there's the chance it just happens with new greys only while leaving everyone else's stats the same. Even still tho, too late to actually implement.
THENOTHING: Could you please by any chance resize that picture, put it as a link, or a thumb? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
What picture is it, that you request this for? :)
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 01:22 PM
damn, I've spread too much rep in 24 hours. I think that's the first time that's happened to me. Oh the irony eh?
uniquinous
04-11-2006, 01:32 PM
What picture is it, that you request this for? :)
oh, sorry, am noob.
SPIRIT NINJA!!!! I just wrote to you about posting overly sized images here! No greater then 600 pixels in width. Please edit and remove that picture.
(THENOTHING: you have it in his quote, so you might wanna remove it from yours as well, but I understand it wasn't your doing in any manner)
WaCk-HeAd
04-11-2006, 01:32 PM
I've been in the top 5 long enough.
Please neg me till I'm red. Forget Xenon, stop giving him attention. Take me as your test subject.
I'm way much of a challenge too. I have 13580 rep.
Bring it!
Anyone who pos reps me gets a neg, anyone who neg reps me gets a pos. Except for douchebags I don't like :)
Woodland
04-11-2006, 01:35 PM
*negs him* >_<
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 01:36 PM
I f I can't get substantial change to the system I'll take anarchy. That works too.
Rep party!!!
uniquinous
04-11-2006, 01:36 PM
are... you serious?
Cuz... I'll neg you if you want but... no return compensation please.
*The Nothing*
04-11-2006, 01:38 PM
oh, sorry, am noob.
SPIRIT NINJA!!!! I just wrote to you about posting overly sized images here! No greater then 600 pixels in width. Please edit and remove that picture.
(THENOTHING: you have it in his quote, so you might wanna remove it from yours as well, but I understand it wasn't your doing in any manner)
Fixed. Sorry about that. :cool:
WaCk-HeAd
04-11-2006, 01:38 PM
I've asked for it before. I can't stand having more rep than Northwind to begin with, and I'm bored having a green user cp.
And I just know people rep me because I have high rep and hope to get one back.
Stop saying you'll neg me and do it already.
*The Nothing*
04-11-2006, 01:39 PM
I've asked for it before. I can't stand having more rep than Northwind to begin with, and I'm bored having a green user cp.
And I just know people rep me because I have high rep and hope to get one back.
Stop saying you'll neg me and do it already.
Haha.
WaCk-HeAd
04-11-2006, 01:40 PM
So The Nothing is the only one man enough to neg me?
I love provoking!
Wussies!!!
kegsworth
04-11-2006, 01:41 PM
I've asked for it before. I can't stand having more rep than Northwind to begin with, and I'm bored having a green user cp.
And I just know people rep me because I have high rep and hope to get one back.
Stop saying you'll neg me and do it already.
What if we pos-repped Northy to death, would that make you feel better?
It's kinda confusing to me . . . I want to neg you because you asked me too, but I'd rather not neg you for no legit reason, and I'd rather not get a pos-rep that I do not deserve (Although 130+ rep sounds tempting).
Never!!!! Ok . . . maybe.
WaCk-HeAd
04-11-2006, 01:42 PM
Kegsworth, you're an asshole. I've never liked you one bit.
WaCk-HeAd
04-11-2006, 01:43 PM
13563. You guys still have a long way to go!
kegsworth
04-11-2006, 01:43 PM
Kegsworth, you're an asshole. I've never liked you one bit.
Negworthy.
Die you . . . errr . . . WaCk-HeAd . . . you!!!!!!!
:p Still not negging you
_Thunder_
04-11-2006, 01:44 PM
13563. You guys still have a long way to go!
Aww quit making me look good.:p
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 01:44 PM
Wacko you know I would but you posted too late. I'm all out of reps.
_Thunder_
04-11-2006, 01:47 PM
Is that why you didnt neg me. :rolleyes:
*The Nothing*
04-11-2006, 01:47 PM
Wacko you know I would but you posted too late. I'm all out of reps.
I am now...thanks to....WACK! :D
*The Nothing*
04-11-2006, 01:48 PM
Is that why you didnt neg me. :rolleyes:
Haha. Probably :P
Poop Slinger
04-11-2006, 01:48 PM
So The Nothing is the only one man enough to neg me?
I love provoking!
Wussies!!!
You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.
Yours is coming.. ask the others in the top 10. ;)
WaCk-HeAd
04-11-2006, 01:48 PM
Not negging me while reading these posts deserves a neg as well. Except when you're out of reps. I give you 2 minutes.
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 02:01 PM
Once I tried to get Ach, Cav, and I can't remember who else to neg me until I was red in the.. um, rep.. and see if people took my posts less seriously. Ach negged me once and then dissapeared, and the others sort of just blew me off.
Wack were you one of the ones I asked to neg me? I'd say you owe me one, like it matters now :/
WaCk-HeAd
04-11-2006, 02:03 PM
I'm out of reps as well :( But you never asked me, but if you ask me now, I'll try as much as I can.
Edit: I think the best way to make rep matter less is to neg people a lot more because of the dumbest reasons, so people stop caring.
kegsworth
04-11-2006, 02:04 PM
I'm out of reps as well :( But you never asked me, but if you ask me now, I'll try as much as I can.
Well, now you can't rep me can you?
:spiteful:
WaCk-HeAd
04-11-2006, 02:05 PM
You were actually the one who I wanted to neg when I got that message.
_Thunder_ was less lucky.
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 02:06 PM
I just got a new message on my green box thingies.
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I'm so c00l.
W00t.
Yup...
n3g m3!!1
kegsworth
04-11-2006, 02:08 PM
You were actually the one who I wanted to neg when I got that message.
_Thunder_ was less lucky.
What message?
WaCk-HeAd
04-11-2006, 02:09 PM
That I was out of reps.
Edit: And thanks Allstar. I have indeed been more active lately, because I'm busy with school again. As long as I'm busy with school I'll be on the forums :) Writing essays/articles can be greatly combined with Foruming :)
Edit 2: Look at the calendar. It's the Neg Rep WaCk-HeAd Month. I fucked up the first sentence though :)
Edit 3: If you see any grammar errors or whatever today, I don't care. I'm tired.
kegsworth
04-11-2006, 02:10 PM
That I was out of reps.
Oh ok, so do you still want to be negged?
allstarGL
04-11-2006, 02:11 PM
wack's a sexy beast!errr...rep sucks!
|ReNeGaDe|
04-11-2006, 02:12 PM
Match I totally agree with you man, Xenon 3/4 of the Community hates him, .. He has atleast 5 forum accounts where he boosts his rep. It is the stupidest system we have here, The only time i will rep someone is if i agree with their post, thats what i think people should start doing.
yankeessuck1178
04-11-2006, 02:17 PM
I agree with you match and renegade. You should be giving rep to people who you agree with or disagree with. If i offend someone i would deserve negative rep but the fact of the matter is people swapping rep is plain ridiculous and people giving neg rep to others for no reason is ridiculous. It seems like the rep aspect has been turned into a game. Who can i get the most red boxes to...who can i give the most green boxes to.
allstarGL
04-11-2006, 02:18 PM
Match I totally agree with you man, Xenon 3/4 of the Community hates him, .. He has atleast 5 forum accounts where he boosts his rep. It is the stupidest system we have here, The only time i will rep someone is if i agree with their post, thats what i think people should start doing.
No, I think people should use rep for whatever they want. Some people use it to give funny messages or as a way to say hi to people etc, we have it so we might as well use it however we want. It is up to the individuals to decide for themselves what kind of weight they put in someones reputation.
_Thunder_
04-11-2006, 02:44 PM
You were actually the one who I wanted to neg when I got that message.
_Thunder_ was less lucky.
:dry:
WaCk-HeAd
04-11-2006, 02:53 PM
Then neg me already! You know you want it and I deserve it!
Memnarch
04-11-2006, 03:03 PM
I'm out of reps as well :( But you never asked me, but if you ask me now, I'll try as much as I can.
Edit: I think the best way to make rep matter less is to neg people a lot more because of the dumbest reasons, so people stop caring.
That may be a good solution Wack-head.
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 03:03 PM
Then neg me already! You know you want it and I deserve it!
Gaaaaaaaah! I keep trying but it won't let me!
Megabyte
04-11-2006, 03:03 PM
I think there needs to be a restatement.
Is rep useless? no
Does it fail in its original intended use? yes
Yes, rep is no reflectment of...well, anything really. I'm really uncertain as to how people like myself get rep, as a majority of my posts are insults and mocking, or attempts to push someones buttons and start drama.
But it DOES have a use, at least to me. Mainly that use is to utilize it as a tool for annoyance. Its really funny watching some of you kids get upset when I neg you. A good number of people can be guarenteed entertainment for a few pm's with a simple neg, plus I absolutely LOVE the idiotic arguments/reasoning brought forth in such exchanges. Its like insight in a retards mind :D
WaCk-HeAd
04-11-2006, 03:05 PM
Neg me, byte.
Don't make me hit you!
It's what all the cool kids do anyway!
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 03:06 PM
Yes, rep is no reflectment of...well, anything really. I'm really uncertain as to how people like myself get rep, as a majority of my posts are insults and mocking, or attempts to push someones buttons and start drama.
Haha, you said "reflectment."
Megabyte
04-11-2006, 03:07 PM
Haha, you said "reflectment."
upwards of 100 hours without sleep do interesting things to my language skills
HorNeT
04-11-2006, 03:39 PM
Omg. I'm soo not posting here. I might get negged!
eek!
EDIT: OMG PLEASE FOR GET THIS POST MATCH
SORA NO WANT NEG!
...
:dry:
Match Strike
04-11-2006, 07:45 PM
You might even get positive repped. The point is it's random. People give out random positive reps, so why not expand our horizons to negative reps as well. Share my vision Sora, oh glorious beacon of light!
Memnarch
04-11-2006, 07:48 PM
You might even get positive repped. The point is it's random. People give out random positive reps, so why not expand our horizons to negative reps as well. Share my vision Sora, oh glorious beacon of light!
Lol! I see what you are getting at and I like the idea. I just wish my negs were more meaningful. What the hell is 11?
x-useme
04-11-2006, 07:48 PM
Yeah, unfortunately, I know at least 3 people in the top 20 (who will not be named) that do that. They consider it okay if the other person asks, saying that it is just being polite. In reality, it just invites the person to rep you more often to try to boost their rep from your rep backs. I definately never comply with those that ask for me to get them back. In fact, I look down upon them. I now rarely get people asking me that anymore because I have ignored them all.
bludhoundz
04-11-2006, 07:56 PM
This thread may speak the truth, but it sucks.
This discussion has been had like 1 million times before.
I just don't like talking about rep, I already think it sucks.
Cephas
04-12-2006, 11:59 AM
Aw, poor Match. He's jealous because he is not the #1 rated grey in the forums. ;) But then again, he can neg me a few times, then he may be able to overtake me in the position that I usurped from Northwind... what... a week ago? :rolleyes:
Rep has its worths. I like being able to rep someone in place of a PM, just to give a quick comment on something that they've said that I may agree with. Negs come very infrequently from me, and tend to be reserved for what Goethe termed as 'agressive stupidity'. Typically though, agressive stupidity earns its own reward, just think of the Darwinian Awards...
Faulty Logic
04-12-2006, 12:06 PM
And so are people that boost their reputation.
"I'll rep u if u rep me back."
I hate those people.
Just to show how arbitrary reputatio is, look how high up on the rep list Xenon is. But this thread isn't about that.
Also, I'll be repping everyone who posts here. It might be a positive rep, but probably it'll be a neg.
Ah, a profound thread which conceals a hidden motive to get more rep by people agreeing with him.........
That being said I like rep...it's very fun, to either make or break a new kid in the newbie thread, and it does have some influential power.
However, I think the rep mongerers, and you-know-who-you-are, are annoying and it is pointless. If someone reps me, I dont just rep them back, I will however look at their recent posts and see if they are rep worthy......
or If I'm feeling lonely I just get spread repped in the SI page... ;)
Match Strike
04-12-2006, 12:43 PM
Aw, poor Match. He's jealous because he is not the #1 rated grey in the forums. ;) But then again, he can neg me a few times, then he may be able to overtake me in the position that I usurped from Northwind... what... a week ago? :rolleyes:.
I feel so.. exposed. And din't Northwind go gold?
Or am I just colorblind?
Edit: he IS gold, and you didn't pass him :p. Appears he's 7th. I'm about 5-7 spots behind you, but Hydrant is RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME... YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGH (Howard Dean yell)
Yup.
Wizzy`
04-12-2006, 12:45 PM
I feel so.. exposed. And din't Northwind go gold?
Or am I just colorblind?
Northwind bought his son a gold, and used the ticket to make his forum account Gold.
WaCk-HeAd
04-12-2006, 12:57 PM
What a cheap bastard!
Northwind
04-12-2006, 01:03 PM
What a cheap bastard!
That's it Wack. I've had enough of your abuse. I'm totally gonna neg the crap out of you!
Oh wait. I already did. At your request. So . . . I . . . uh . . . can't really DO anything TO you. Except give you a frowny face. Get ready . . . here it comes . . .
:mad:
BAM! How ya like that punk?!?!
Princess J
04-12-2006, 01:07 PM
:mad:
BAM! How ya like that punk?!?!
My experience in these forum is looking good so far, lots of funny, friendly faces.
Haha I gave you a + rep.
Wizzy`
04-12-2006, 01:09 PM
I really feel bad in saying this, but that does look like a Vival banner..and "she" types like him..
Cephas
04-12-2006, 01:12 PM
I really feel bad in saying this, but that does look like a Vival banner..and "she" types like him..
If there remains yet the shadow of a doubt, you should not make the assertion. She will be hounded all the rest of her living days as Vival. Make the assertion based on what you see over a longer span.
Wizzy`
04-12-2006, 01:13 PM
If there remains yet the shadow of a doubt, you should not make the assertion. She will be hounded all the rest of her living days as Vival. Make the assertion based on what you see over a longer span.
T3HGR1NCH: .....
T3HGR1NCH: Are you kidding me!?
notorious hoile: ?
T3HGR1NCH: I know thats you.
notorious hoile: http://www.danecook.com/
notorious hoile: hm.
T3HGR1NCH: YOU ARE!
Tehehe! Can someone make me a nice pretty banner with DANE COOK in it? I love him he's so cute AND he's funny - THE PERFECT GUY!
And if you could add a nice pinkish effect to it that would be awesome!!!
Don't forget to of course include my name, but try not to make it much bigger than my current banner. Thanks!<3
I also have a screeny of the convo if you need it.
Doctor Love
04-12-2006, 01:17 PM
I would appreciate if you stopped posting my screenname on these forums, edit it out next time you want to try and make an assumption.
T3HGR1NCH (2:12:29 PM): .....
T3HGR1NCH (2:12:38 PM): Are you kidding me!?
notorious hoile (2:12:43 PM): ?
T3HGR1NCH (2:12:47 PM): I know thats you.
notorious hoile (2:12:58 PM): http://www.danecook.com/
notorious hoile (2:13:02 PM): hm.
T3HGR1NCH (2:13:05 PM): YOU ARE!
notorious hoile (2:13:06 PM): whats me?
notorious hoile (2:13:11 PM): WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
notorious hoile (2:14:42 PM): why are you being so mad at me?
T3HGR1NCH (2:15:04 PM): you got me IP banned from outkast fourms
T3HGR1NCH (2:15:05 PM): forums
notorious hoile (2:15:16 PM): are you an admin?
T3HGR1NCH (2:15:19 PM): no
notorious hoile (2:15:55 PM): then i suceeded.
Wizzy`
04-12-2006, 01:18 PM
I would appreciate if you stopped posting my screenname on these forums, edit it out next time you want to try and make an assumption.
I actually said that afterwards
notorious hoile: then i suceeded.
T3HGR1NCH: lol
T3HGR1NCH: not really
T3HGR1NCH: i de-admind myself
T3HGR1NCH: n00b
And also, when I said that about the outkast forums, I was starting a new convo.
Doctor Love
04-12-2006, 01:20 PM
I would appreciate if you stopped posting my screenname on these forums, edit it out next time you want to try and make an assumption.
Stop being an asshole. I'm done with these forums, I would appreciate if you stop IMing me and everything I say you taking it out of context. You're doing the exact same thing I did to S_K_O_F because you're mad that I got you banned from Outkast. Get over it, I did.
Wizzy`
04-12-2006, 01:22 PM
Stop being an asshole. I'm done with these forums, I would appreciate if you stop IMing me and everything I say you taking it out of context. You're doing the exact same thing I did to S_K_O_F because you're mad that I got you banned from Outkast. Get over it, I did.
I don't care. I know it's you. And if I get yelled at for having duel accounts, It annoys me that no one else does.
kegsworth
04-12-2006, 01:24 PM
I have two accounts.
:)
Wizzy`
04-12-2006, 01:25 PM
I'm done saying things..I don't want to go back to my old ways.
Doctor Love
04-12-2006, 01:27 PM
Amazing how you're assuming I'm a girl, when we're both online at the same time.
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7806/ss2vd.png
After today I will be leaving these forum.
I'm done saying things..I don't want to go back to my old ways.
Once a noob, always a noob.
Poop Slinger
04-12-2006, 01:28 PM
Wait is rep down to two per day? I only got to neg two people.. How the hell can I go forward with an evil plot with only two negs a day! :(
Wizzy`
04-12-2006, 01:28 PM
Amazing how you're assuming I'm a girl, when we're both online at the same time.
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7806/ss2vd.png
After today I will be leaving these forum.
Once a noob, always a noob.
Btw DL, I can go on two accounts at the same time too, hold on..in about 30 seconds..Look at the active users, you'll see Quattro, and Wizzy`
Gimme a minute >_<
Doctor Love
04-12-2006, 01:32 PM
You're right, though this only proves how consistently angry you are with me, saying you won't go back to your old ways, then pushing the same topic over and over.
Wizzy`
04-12-2006, 01:33 PM
http://i2.tinypic.com/v8is5y.jpg
I just needed to prove you wrong.
Sorry the quality is so crappy, paint does that.
Doctor Love
04-12-2006, 01:35 PM
http://i2.tinypic.com/v8is5y.jpg
I just needed to prove you wrong.
Sorry the quality is so crappy, paint does that.
So how does this prove I'm Prince J. I would prefer if you don't respond, cause I'm leaving, but knowing you, you have to have the last word, so you're most likely going to respond and say something stupid. To further prove myself right, I'm going to continue to egg you on, like I've been doing the last several posts in this thread and say something witty like:
"Can you go post an apology thread for me on the Outkast forums?"
TheSilverRider
04-12-2006, 01:35 PM
First off you guys need to stop arguing here and take it to PM's or something.
I'm done saying things..I don't want to go back to my old ways.
So you mean that you dont want to go back to being a newb post whore? O wait you already have done that. O well.
Wizzy`
04-12-2006, 01:37 PM
So you mean that you dont want to go back to being a newb post whore? O wait you already have done that. O well.
Shut up DBD.
TheSilverRider
04-12-2006, 01:38 PM
O NO! Now everyone knows that im DBD!
Dude you have already tried to get everyone mad at me for being DBD and the ONLY one that cares is you. And you alone. So i believe it is YOU that needs to shutup.
Wizzy`
04-12-2006, 01:40 PM
O NO! Now everyone knows that im DBD!
Dude you have already tried to get everyone mad at me for being DBD and the ONLY one that cares is you. And you alone. So i believe it is YOU that needs to shutup.
I call people by who they really are, I call Doctor Love, Vival. You, DBD, *TN*, infernal or infer
Those are just examples.
Match Strike
04-12-2006, 01:45 PM
Who the hell is DBD? And get out of my thread!
kegsworth
04-12-2006, 01:45 PM
I call people by who they really are, I call Doctor Love, Vival. You, DBD, *TN*, infernal or infer
Those are just examples.
Can you call me by my real name?
Please?
Wizzy`
04-12-2006, 01:47 PM
Who the hell is DBD? And get out of my thread!
DBD = Deathbydarkness.
Sorry Match.
WaCk-HeAd
04-12-2006, 01:57 PM
That's it Wack. I've had enough of your abuse. I'm totally gonna neg the crap out of you!
Oh wait. I already did. At your request. So . . . I . . . uh . . . can't really DO anything TO you. Except give you a frowny face. Get ready . . . here it comes . . .
:mad:
BAM! How ya like that punk?!?!
OH!
It is on, mister!!
Consider yourself frowned upon!
Oh shit! God damn it, I deactived all those extra formatting controls. Hold on and let me activate it again so I know how to make those smileys.
Edit: Oh that's right. I'm back in action.
:mad: :mad:
TADAAM! In yo' face!
Wizzy`
04-12-2006, 02:01 PM
OH!
It is on, mister!!
Consider yourself frowned upon!
Oh shit! God damn it, I deactived all those extra formatting controls. Hold on and let me activate it again so I know how to make those smileys.
Edit: Oh that's right. I'm back in action.
:mad: :mad:
TADAAM! In yo' face!
Wack, are you anywhere close to 10 boxes? :p
Match Strike
04-12-2006, 02:07 PM
No he is not. Wack what's your rep?
kegsworth
04-12-2006, 02:14 PM
No he is not. Wack what's your rep?
Hahaha, I laugh at you!
[MOCKING TONE] No he is not . . . pssst WaCk! Whats your rep!?!?![/MOCKING TONE]
Poop Slinger
04-12-2006, 02:44 PM
only -8000 left to go on Wack.. and um he will still have 11 boxes..
ko71991
04-12-2006, 02:59 PM
What the crap?
Shiny Flors
04-12-2006, 04:37 PM
I can't stand people who complain about the rep system. So I skipped 14 pages of people crying about it.
If you don't like the rep system, don't use it.
Match Strike
04-12-2006, 04:42 PM
Or abuse it. And hey, I never expected a personal rant to last this long. In fact I thought it would be closed like most of my threads.
ironhorse123
04-12-2006, 05:52 PM
Well, I think I'm only going to post once on this topic. Anyways, I think many people say "I think rep is stupid, blah, blah, blah . . .", but they truly do care about it. And, I'm not saying Match Strike here. I'm talking about newer members who happen to acheive 11 boxes in a week. I've read some of these posts and some truly make me laugh. I can tell many posts are sincere about not liking rep (Match Strike), but others are just truly funny. I like reputation. I see many abuses in it, and that's sad. But, everyone knows that your personality isn't going to be judged on how many green boxes you have. :rolleyes: Rep is good when it is used correctly. As KB said, I rep sometimes saying "Hey", not to get return rep, but to say "Hey." Saying hey might come across as just randomly giving rep, but when I rep "Hey" it's only when I like the post. I don't actully say I like the post, but I do. Rep is rep, it's part of the forum. Why worry about it?
Sluff
04-12-2006, 06:07 PM
Rep is dumb.
:D:D
Northwind
04-12-2006, 06:33 PM
OH!
It is on, mister!!
Consider yourself frowned upon!
Oh shit! God damn it, I deactived all those extra formatting controls. Hold on and let me activate it again so I know how to make those smileys.
Edit: Oh that's right. I'm back in action.
:mad: :mad:
TADAAM! In yo' face!
Why you little pissant! I'm pretty sure you don't want to start a frowny-face war with me. I got so many frowny-faces in reserve it'll make your head spin. Watch this:
:mad: :angry: :threaten: :nono: :aggress: :noway: :tommy:
I got more where that came from too. Boo Yah!
lthlinjction
04-12-2006, 07:14 PM
I agree with Match Strike and the rest who've posted here, I also have voiced my opinions in many a thread about it and got what I deserved: a neg. Why should a Colors and Numbers affect the way people think about your posting? I made a new forum account a while back to support my theory ( and many others as well) of rep tarnishing opinions. I posted something with this account and it passed off as a 'respected forumer with a lot of rep opinion'. But when I said the exact same thing with the other account, I was known as an egotist who needed to watch his mouth.
Even though it makes me smile when I login and see a few green reps in the UserCP, it doesn't mean a whole lot to me. And, I agree with Hatchet's point of view: It's always nice to see some red every now and again.
:)
didn't we have a whole conversation about how stupid rep is before? it was me you and someone else... but i forget the name :(
Madars
04-12-2006, 07:48 PM
I totaly...100% surely agree with Match..
**waits for pos rep**
:)
-Mad-
WaCk-HeAd
04-13-2006, 05:27 AM
My rep is still 12685. You guys are just not dedicated enough!
As far as mister Noobwind! Oh yeah, I said it!
Why you little pissant! I'm pretty sure you don't want to start a frowny-face war with me. I got so many frowny-faces in reserve it'll make your head spin. Watch this:
*insert lame, no effect having, smileys from Northwind*
I got more where that came from too. Boo Yah!
That was a nice effort. But lets see how you like my superduper frown faces combination of DOOOOOM!
:angry: :*diablo::*diablo: :angry: :threaten: :aggress: :angry::*diablo: :*diablo: :angry:
urania
04-13-2006, 06:29 AM
:) :mellow: :huh: :unsure: :confused: :eek: :wacko: :crazy: :swoon:
^this is called metamorphosis^
it is what recently happened to wack and which resulted in him making the Neg me thread :laugh:
Match Strike
04-13-2006, 10:20 AM
Someone had a good point in a message they sent me (using a rep). They thought my random positive and negative reps defeated the purpose of this threzd, presumably by devaluing the system even more.
My justification is that there is not point in reformation; what we really need is a scrapping of the reputaion system as a whole.
Edit::rtfm: :nono: :offtopic: :stop: :aggress: :tommy: :threaten:
Wrong thread jerks!
:this: Post over there. Wack, you have your own thread.
TheSilverRider
04-13-2006, 10:23 AM
Someone had a good point in a message they sent me (using a rep). They thought my random positive and negative reps defeated the purpose of this threzd, presumably by devaluing the system even more.
My justification is that there is not point in reformation; what we really need is a scrapping of the reputaion system as a whole.
I would say that the rep system is WAY "overused". Because i doubt when they made it they were thinking that people would rep so much. I mean people are like 10,000 over the 11th box. If we didnt rep so much the rep system would be much better. Just my thoughts.:)
spirit ninja
04-13-2006, 03:36 PM
[QUOTE=WaCk-HeAd]My rep is still 12685. You guys are just not dedicated enough![/qoute]
Perhaps you should take lessons from me..I think I have the lowest rep in the forums...=]
kegsworth
04-13-2006, 03:39 PM
My rep is still 12685. You guys are just not dedicated enough!
Perhaps you should take lessons from me..I think I have the lowest rep in the forums...=]
Wrong.
DracoMaster
05-04-2006, 01:53 PM
um im a retard and i dont quite get wat rep is and y it is important or not as i gathered from this thread. Wat does it mean???
boogieman
05-04-2006, 01:56 PM
Rep is illustrated by the little red or green boxes below your post count, and shows how much people like or hate you.
Red=Hate
Green=Love
Riathmus
05-04-2006, 02:37 PM
Wrong.
To true. The most hated member is Spartion, then Ducky doodoo. Spartion has 11 red boxes. Ducky has around 7.
DracoMaster
05-04-2006, 02:40 PM
o well im not bothered i just like getting info from here, so rep doesnt matter. And anyway i know im hated lol....
Match Strike
08-16-2006, 01:20 PM
Well, this sort of petered out, didn't it?
I did go through and neg most of the first page of reputation though. Today I might pos all the guys with5-11 red boxes :)
It won't solve anything, but fighting the system is hardcore!
I mean cool.
What do the kids say these days? Like the opposite of "square,"
It's neat!
bludhoundz
08-16-2006, 01:26 PM
What do the kids say these days? Like the opposite of "square,"
Circular, perhaps?
some1udontknow
08-16-2006, 01:28 PM
Triangular?
steve12
08-16-2006, 01:31 PM
No, Didecagonal.
...I agree with the first post of this thread. Also, many people have the Immortal rank and this should be changed. Maybe adding a second row of brighter boxes would be interesting as well. :confused:
HatchetKlown17
08-16-2006, 01:35 PM
No, Didecagonal.
...I agree with the first post of this thread. Also, many people have the Immortal rank and this should be changed. Maybe adding a second row of brighter boxes would be interesting as well. :confused:
No, because then it would just cause more people to whore their way up. If they were to add a second row of boxes at least 40 people would instantly hit the second row, thus negating the entire point. Simple solution, make rep unviewable. Let them still use it as a short message system, but remove the ability to see how much rep a user has.
Office_Shredder
08-16-2006, 01:39 PM
Or how about this. Instead of giving people green boxes when their rep gets up, they can win cool prizes, like awesome new window information sessions
That'll cut down on the rep whoring
EDIT: Woah! I'm immortal! How the hell did that happen?
Cuathon
08-16-2006, 01:47 PM
jsut dump rep. you can get 7 boxes just on your joining post.
Cuathon
08-16-2006, 01:47 PM
dump rep, you can get 7 boxes just on your joining post.
and also, ive seen many 16- members with 11 boxes. many many were NJ.
EDIT: god damn the alteration to the quick reply feature...
uniquinous
08-16-2006, 01:51 PM
No, because then it would just cause more people to whore their way up. If they were to add a second row of boxes at least 40 people would instantly hit the second row, thus negating the entire point. Simple solution, make rep unviewable. Let them still use it as a short message system, but remove the ability to see how much rep a user has.
agreed - removes the mess of drama, it would be numberless, but still provides instant feedback to people
Jax'D
08-16-2006, 01:55 PM
I haven't seen this thread until now and I read through the whole thing.
I especially love all the posts about how much rep I had as Xenon and that is a small amount to what I have these days but that doesn't matter.
I agree I was a rep whore back then but now no matter what people may have said or still do say perhaps I am no longer a rep whore.
Rep is stupid. When I saw the new changes I had been hoping rep was reset or disables but my hopes were ashcanned.
I still do think that negs with absolutely reason at all is retarded, but, if I have been stupid or whatever and get negged for that then no matter, I deserve it.
Though, it is funny how people still think I rep boost because of my rep level. For all I care they can think that, I know my conscience is clear.
Anyways thats my view on rep, now time for a little 12esque quote-whoring :)
What do the kids say these days? Like the opposite of "square,"
Rectangular? :p
...I agree with the first post of this thread. Also, many people have the Immortal rank and this should be changed. Maybe adding a second row of brighter boxes would be interesting as well. :confused:
I too agree with the first post and the bit about me is kinda funny.
But about the row of 2nd "lighter" boxes that seems stupid and actually not do-able as it were, vBulletin allow up to 11 green boxes but as many titles as you want and there is no limits to how much rep a person can have. Though if the rep system is going to stay some new rep titles might be in need. The only problem with that is that a few people including myself will probably already have the titles because of the amount of rep we have. Also the other problem would be the rep-whores who are already immortal will be like "oh new titles, I must get people to rep me so I can get there" etc. But immortal pretty much spells it out but you could have things like "user is legendary" or something.
Simple solution, make rep unviewable. Let them still use it as a short message system, but remove the ability to see how much rep a user has.
That seems like a good idea yet a little pointless. You might aswell remove the rep system and leave it to PM's for people to discuss how good or stupid a persons post was. I also believe that this function isn't possible to do either.
EDIT: Woah! I'm immortal! How the hell did that happen?
Perhaps you r0x0r? :cool:
meat.eater
08-16-2006, 01:57 PM
What would you say if i told you I had proof of it, Jax?
Jax'D
08-16-2006, 02:12 PM
I wouldn't believe you but whatever.
Perhaps you could show me this "proof" on aim?
WaCk-HeAd
08-16-2006, 02:13 PM
Matchstrike, seriously, don't neg me again. I didn't do anything wrong. Why would you do such a horrible thing? Why would you try to hurt me like that?
I just don't understand it.
Make me understand.
Just tell me why. Tell me why you did this!!
:(
Megabyte
08-16-2006, 02:20 PM
Well, this sort of petered out, didn't it?
Leave it that way next time
Jax'D
08-16-2006, 02:23 PM
Matchstrike, seriously, don't neg me again. I didn't do anything wrong. Why would you do such a horrible thing? Why would you try to hurt me like that?
I just don't understand it.
Make me understand.
Just tell me why. Tell me why you did this!!
:(
All I can say is...
LOL
Whether or not that was sarcastic or true.
shatterstar
08-16-2006, 02:32 PM
you talk the most about how quickly and how high you are on the first page. so excuse me if i dont believe you when you say you're not a repwhore.
Colipso
08-16-2006, 02:41 PM
A lot of the messages in reps are pretty fun.
At leasts the reps I get. I don't really care if they're grey, green, or red, though.
Match Strike
08-16-2006, 04:00 PM
Leave it that way next time
Oh no!
Megabyte used negative reputation as it should be used... by negging me for a post he dissaproved of.
I don unnerstan!!!!
Megabyte
08-16-2006, 04:36 PM
now I'm using the ignore user function for it's intended purpose too:eek:
panic!
Wizzy`
08-16-2006, 04:38 PM
now I'm using the ignore user function for it's intended purpose too:eek:
panic!
I know you have me ignored,
Megabyte, people could care less that you have them ignored. You're not that popular.
HatchetKlown17
08-16-2006, 05:22 PM
On the contrary, he is popular, just not with the ladies. Isn't that where it counts? ;)
Northwind
08-16-2006, 05:26 PM
What is this whole "reputation is dumb" movement? Isn't the whole POINT of the forums to gain as much reputation as possible? How else are we to know who is interesting and who isn't? How else are we to know who we should flame and who we should kowtow to? How can we possible tell the idiots from the geniuses without reputation?
Good lord, the next thing you know, someone's gonna say "Stats are dumb."
*shudders*
Megabyte
08-16-2006, 05:30 PM
I'd rep you north, but the resulting layers of meaning and irony from this thread are too much for me to work with.
Hoolwath
08-16-2006, 05:30 PM
I know you have me ignored,
Megabyte, people could care less that you have them ignored. You're not that popular.
He is popular! And brainy, intelligent, funny, annoying, big headed and inactive.
Megabyte
08-16-2006, 05:32 PM
wait wait wait
inactive?
Hoolwath
08-16-2006, 05:35 PM
Just checking if I am on your ignore list.
Match Strike
08-16-2006, 05:36 PM
now I'm using the ignore user function for it's intended purpose too:eek:
panic!
Great, now I can talk about him behind his back and he'll never know.
Megabyte is a fish-head.
Oooh, hahaha! See? No repercussions!
Hoolwath
08-16-2006, 05:38 PM
Great, now I can talk about him behind his back and he'll never know.
Megabyte is a fish-head.
Oooh, hahaha! See? No repercussions!
All you have to do is hope no one who is not on his ignore list will quote you.
EDIT: oops.
HatchetKlown17
08-16-2006, 06:03 PM
lol...
North, but the entire concept has been destroyed by rep-whoring bastards. I saw the other day, Dape I believe paying someone for a sig with 500 rep... seriously... COME ON!
Jax'D
08-17-2006, 02:00 AM
No that was bubo trying to bribe me with rep for a sig. He kept saying "I'll give you a 500 rep pos bomb" and I said no. He then said "i'll give you a 1000 rep pos bomb" and I still said no. I said to him anyway "and you would do that how?" and he listed a load of people who he would get to rep me, sad eh.
Another thing on this...
People are accusing me of rep whoring just because I am near 40000 in the short time on being registered as Jax'D. Meat and I had a long conversation about it yesterday and he looked at it from a mathematical view and said it doesn't work out and it's true, it doesn't. I would have to have around 4500 posts for it to work out correctly according to meat and I agree. I know I have a huge amount of rep in just a short time, but, as meat and I said I may have promoted rep whoring a bit by someone repping me, I rep them back and it goes from there. I am not that tight with giving out pos reps like a lot of people in say the top 10, though I am going to be now. I do not see the crime in repping someone back if they rep me or if I rep them then they rep me back, I don't actually see whats wrong with that. But I spose when it happens multiple time it can be classed as rep whoring. For all I care neg me to hell for being stupid with reps because frankly I couldn't care less. Just thought everyone should know this whether it destroys the reputation I have managed to build back up again or not (I am not talking about numbers and green boxes).
WaCk-HeAd
08-17-2006, 05:10 AM
What is this whole "reputation is dumb" movement? Isn't the whole POINT of the forums to gain as much reputation as possible? How else are we to know who is interesting and who isn't? How else are we to know who we should flame and who we should kowtow to? How can we possible tell the idiots from the geniuses without reputation?
Yeah, and this why I was so sad about Matchstrike's negative reputation. It was like he was trying to take my popularity from me, for NO REASON AT ALL! And I just didn't understand how he can be so incredibily mean. But you helped me with giving me a positive reputation, and I'm so thankful for that.
I'm serious, it meant so much for me. Not so much the kind words but most of all the points! I don't think I lost any points now by Matchstrike unexplainable behavior. I will be forever thankful for your reputation points, friend.
Good lord, the next thing you know, someone's gonna say "Stats are dumb."
*shudders*
What! :eek: :eek:
:(
Why are stats dumb?! Why! Stats mean skill!! I have high stats, my big brother got those for me, so I could be popular and thought of as skilled! Why are they dumb, Northwind? Why would you say that!?
:( :( :( :(
Scorpionz
08-17-2006, 05:19 AM
Yeah, and this why I was so sad about Matchstrike's negative reputation. It was like he was trying to take my popularity from me, for NO REASON AT ALL! And I just didn't understand how he can be so incredibily mean. But you helped me with giving me a positive reputation, and I'm so thankful for that.
I'm serious, it meant so much for me. Not so much the kind words but most of all the points! I don't think I lost any points now by Matchstrike unexplainable behavior. I will be forever thankful for your reputation points, friend.
What! :eek: :eek:
:(
Why are stats dumb?! Why! Stats mean skill!! I have high stats, my big brother got those for me, so I could be popular and thought of as skilled! Why are they dumb, Northwind? Why would you say that!?
:( :( :( :(
:cray:
Everyone is so mean.
:fie:
† Bubacik †
08-17-2006, 06:55 AM
No that was bubo trying to bribe me with rep for a sig. He kept saying "I'll give you a 500 rep pos bomb" and I said no. He then said "i'll give you a 1000 rep pos bomb" and I still said no. I said to him anyway "and you would do that how?" and he listed a load of people who he would get to rep me, sad eh.
I reallly wanted a banner from you. I had nothing to offer you so I told you I'll give you +500 rep bomb. Do you think I will really give you this ? I think you didnt understand the type of joke. Yeah, you will quote this and say : " I didn't ", Okay, my bad. I will not talk about rep anymore !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EDIT : now you negged me with words : " f**k off then ". I really don't know what I did. I was writing a message on msn, when you asked why. I was going to tell you why, but you said it on msn and minute ago negged me. I don't know what's wrong with you. Man, relax !
WaCk-HeAd
08-17-2006, 07:06 AM
I reallly wanted a banner from you. I had nothing to offer you so I told you I'll give you +500 rep bomb. Do you think I will really give you this ? I think you didnt understand the type of joke. Yeah, you will quote this and say : " I didn't ", Okay, my bad. I will not talk about rep anymore !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EDIT : now you negged me with words : " f**k off then ". I really don't know what I did. I was writing a message on msn, when you asked why. I was going to tell you why, but you said it on msn and minute ago negged me. I don't know what's wrong with you. Man, relax !
Thanks and applause for Jax'D. You rock bro' !
Hehehe, funny.
† Bubacik †
08-17-2006, 07:08 AM
Yes. It is ... :p
~SlayeR~
08-17-2006, 07:16 AM
Rep should be gone, and maybe an idea is that the amount of boxes you have relates to the amount of posts you hame done, maybe? ;)
Scorpionz
08-17-2006, 07:34 AM
I reallly wanted a banner from you. I had nothing to offer you so I told you I'll give you +500 rep bomb. Do you think I will really give you this ? I think you didnt understand the type of joke. Yeah, you will quote this and say : " I didn't ", Okay, my bad. I will not talk about rep anymore !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EDIT : now you negged me with words : " f**k off then ". I really don't know what I did. I was writing a message on msn, when you asked why. I was going to tell you why, but you said it on msn and minute ago negged me. I don't know what's wrong with you. Man, relax !
Want me to go digging up my MSN logs to prove all of what you said was crap?
Office_Shredder
08-17-2006, 07:45 AM
Rep should be gone, and maybe an idea is that the amount of boxes you have relates to the amount of posts you hame done, maybe? ;)
Or maybe, we could just put up a number that tells you how many posts someone has!
Scorpionz
08-17-2006, 07:47 AM
That.Would.be.Totally.Awesome.Man.
BaxVarlet
08-17-2006, 09:36 AM
The solution is just to get rid of positive rep, and only leave the negative rep. Thus, everyone will start slowly losing rep until everyone has none (sure, a few will have a lot of red boxes, but that can't be helped and they probably deserve them anyways) EVeryone's neg giving powers will slowly diminish as they lose rep.
It avoids the nasty mess of the sudden shock of a sudden reseting or elimination of rep, and would probably take a lenghty amount of time to topple the leading people in rep.
Plus it would be fun.
WaCk-HeAd
08-17-2006, 09:41 AM
Woah! I have only 128 more to go to reach 20000 reputation points! Quick! Someone rep me!
. . .
Oh wait...
. . .
uhhh...
Ehhh, War is bad! and ehh... Go world peace!
and err... Bin Laden sucks!
. . .
yeah...
*runs*
Speed Demon
08-17-2006, 09:45 AM
Yah Rep can be addicting :P
HatchetKlown17
08-17-2006, 09:53 AM
I was obsessed with rep, until I hit 11 boxes, just cuz they looked perty. I realized how screwed rep was when I passed Byte, Max, Wolf, and users like that. >_<
Jax'D
08-17-2006, 09:59 AM
Want me to go digging up my MSN logs to prove all of what you said was crap?
And that would be?
Show me on msn.
I had nothing to offer you so I told you I'll give you +500 rep bomb. Do you think I will really give you this ? I think you didnt understand the type of joke.
Thats bullshit because you asked punish. I know this because punish told me about it.
Sluff
08-17-2006, 10:05 AM
I like reading the comments in reps. :)
Speed Demon
08-17-2006, 10:07 AM
Yeah me too, some are pretty cool ^^
mushroom_girl
08-17-2006, 10:24 AM
I get the funniest comments in rep.
That's the reason I like it. :happy:
WaCk-HeAd
08-17-2006, 10:29 AM
I should rep people with naked pictures of myself, that should get people to hate rep.
Match, you with me?!
S_K_O_F
08-17-2006, 10:54 AM
I should rep people with naked pictures of myself, that should get people to hate rep.
Match, you with me?!
there might be a few of us who will like it.;)
WaCk-HeAd
08-17-2006, 11:02 AM
That's why I need Match.
:)
Jax'D
08-17-2006, 11:04 AM
I should rep people with naked pictures of myself
I can't wait :rolleyes:
T3km4n
08-17-2006, 11:19 AM
We have already come to the conclusion that rep is stupid and that no one cares about it. You can all stop making threads about rep, and shut the hell up.
Thank you.
WaCk-HeAd
08-17-2006, 11:20 AM
Neg him!!
kegsworth
08-17-2006, 11:46 AM
We have already come to the conclusion that rep is stupid and that no one cares about it. You can all stop making threads about rep, and shut the hell up.
Thank you.
Quiet, hippie.
:p
Match Strike
08-17-2006, 06:26 PM
That's why I need Match.
:)
Let's do it!
http://yeoldeblogshoppe.eponym.com/fat%20naked%20guy.bmp
But maybe people WILL like it...
Hoolwath
08-17-2006, 06:33 PM
Let's do it!
http://yeoldeblogshoppe.eponym.com/fat%20naked%20guy.bmp
But maybe people WILL like it...
I do not think so!
And ummm... Match... I was wondering... could you give me the picture-guy´s phone number? Thanks. :o
Match Strike
08-17-2006, 06:44 PM
I do not think so!
And ummm... Match... I was wondering... could you give me the picture-guy´s phone number? Thanks. :o
It's my dad. You could be like my second daddy if you two marry!
Hoolwath
08-17-2006, 07:35 PM
It's my dad. You could be like my second daddy if you two marry!
Your dad may be handsome, but I would never want you for a child.
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