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boogieman
04-24-2006, 08:07 AM
this is just a quick thought i had, but i thought that it would be a good idea to have it so that clan members/leaders can watch a game that another clan member is participating in. the person wanting to watch the game in session can't see what the two players are typing, but can talk to the clan member by pressing /c like always. also, they have to ask permission before watching a game, just to play it safe. :)
this may have been brought up before... don't have time to search i'm in the middle of computer class. :)

i'll update this later on...

Teacher
04-24-2006, 08:41 AM
Hey Booger, for the most part this idea has been brought up. The main reasons for it not being liked was because of the possibility of cheating. For instance, one clan member wants to play someone, they have a more experienced clan member play them first, without thinking the opp. allows the first clan member to watch, now he has a upper hand because he has an idea of the opponents setup so he can set against it.
Although I can see this having its perks I think the problems and accusations it would cause would not be worth the trouble.

Scorpionz
04-24-2006, 08:46 AM
Its a good idea. Its just that it may be unfair because the person watching could drop hints and stuff. It wouldnt be fair with a visual look of the game hes asking help about.

Riathmus
04-24-2006, 11:03 AM
Wouldn't be bad if the person watching couldn't type stuff. Then weaker people could watch and get better.

KBHoleN1
04-24-2006, 11:23 AM
this may have been brought up before... don't have time to search i'm in the middle of computer class. :)
Really? You think this may have been suggested before? I wonder what would give you that idea ...

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3154

The sticky is called "Previously Suggested Ideas" and guess what? It's #1 on the list. Sure it would be cool, but it's been suggested and shot down more times than you can count, for various reasons. Mainly that it would be too involved and too much work to actually do. Plus, it is not vital to the gameplay, so it's not a big priority.

I've got another link you should click, this time I took 5 seconds and clicked the advanced search option. I typed "watch" in the search box, and selected the suggestion forum.

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/search.php?searchid=387337

Next time, instead of posting a thread, try searching. If you don't have time to search, you don't have time to post. The horse has been beaten, and beaten, and beaten again, and it's been dead for a long time. Leave it alone.

This idea will never happen, and it doesn't matter how many times or ways the admins and moderators try to alert people to this fact, noobs like you still keep bringing it up. Now go away.

R G
04-24-2006, 11:58 AM
I like the idea of letting people watch games, but not just clan leaders. I think it should be allowed for anyone to watch a game so long as there is no communication IE Clan Chat allowed during watched games.

boogieman
04-24-2006, 11:59 AM
Really? You think this may have been suggested before? I wonder what would give you that idea ...

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3154
like i said before, i was in the middle of computer class or else i would have searched for it.

Mainly that it would be too involved and too much work to actually do. Plus, it is not vital to the gameplay, so it's not a big priority.
yah, it' not too big on the priority list. but how is it such a big pain? it's just something that a clan could have. not the devil's tool or anything...

I've got another link you should click, this time I took 5 seconds and clicked the advanced search option. I typed "watch" in the search box, and selected the suggestion forum.

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/search.php?searchid=387337

Next time, instead of posting a thread, try searching. If you don't have time to search, you don't have time to post. The horse has been beaten, and beaten, and beaten again, and it's been dead for a long time. Leave it alone.
thanks for the advice...

This idea will never happen, and it doesn't matter how many times or ways the admins and moderators try to alert people to this fact, noobs like you still keep bringing it up. Now go away.
sorry i pissed you off so much, dude. :dry:



I like the idea of letting people watch games, but not just clan leaders. I think it should be allowed for anyone to watch a game so long as there is no communication IE Clan Chat allowed during watched games.
clan leaders/members, RG. :) means both. i thought that another good thing to add is that there is a time limit on how long one can view a match, then they can't watch again until the battle is over. like a grey disconnection from the lobby after too much time.

†Julien†
04-24-2006, 05:13 PM
I think alot of work needs to be done on Clans, it has really restricted options for a game on this scale. I know this has all been metioned before but it would make a massive difference to the game.

Hellblazer
04-24-2006, 05:17 PM
Please read the stickies. Watching games has been suggested a million times.

Jeffery
04-24-2006, 05:21 PM
Except that from the very begining of when clans were installed, TAO made it clear there would be 0 support for clans.

Everything on TAO comes down to "realistic expectations". When you have been around long enough, you know the amount of time and effort the admins are willing to put into TAO, and know what is to be expected.

Coming in as a new person, and having wild dreams about some huge developement staff doing nothing but working on TAO is the sure sign of a newbie.

TAO has 1/2 of a coder, who occasionally plays around with the game, and adds some little tweak or feature. When something does happen, you take it as a pleasant surprise, and say thanks. When nothing happens, you sit back and acknowledge that THAT is how TAO works.

The Ultimater
04-24-2006, 05:59 PM
yeah i think it's ok but...meh ill vote for yes...since it sounds cool but i have a feeling...

uniquinous
04-24-2006, 06:17 PM
like i said before, i was in the middle of computer class or else i would have searched for it.

KB has a good point, and your defense is lacking. If you don't have time to do it right, then please don't do it at all. Your suggestion could have easily waited until you got home, and this community need not have a thread for every thought that popped into the head of every member. It's just a nice courtesy, when coming into a new community, to get acquainted with the customs. Creating this thread showed a complete disregard for that, which is why you were flamed.

You didn't upset me, you just showed that lack of respect and reason, which is why people are now correcting you. For future reference, try to wait until you know you have the time to go about things apropriately.

KBHoleN1
04-24-2006, 06:22 PM
I love me some uni.

robin hoods
04-24-2006, 06:24 PM
Meow! lol

uniquinous
04-24-2006, 06:50 PM
I love me some uni.
I love me some Hole.

:confused:

wait a minute....

....

:eek:

that didn't come out right...

robin hoods
04-24-2006, 06:58 PM
Hey why did everyoen negg me on this thread, i was just being funny or is there no sense of humour these days.

Jeffery
04-24-2006, 07:21 PM
If you had made a joke, people might have found it funny.

What you did was spam needlessly.

Megabyte
04-24-2006, 07:22 PM
He really can't be held too responsible. With stupidity rampant in the boards, its easy to think that behaving such = amusement.

Jeffery
04-24-2006, 07:34 PM
Then we should add new mods who would clean the forums up.
MB4M (http://tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25809)

Megabyte
04-24-2006, 07:36 PM
I was thinking more of socially belittling and public flamings....you know, like the good ol' days when the boards were "mean" and such...

Poop Slinger
04-25-2006, 09:50 AM
Shut your hole mega! You have no idea what your talking about!!

*measures Megas Trout*
*steps 7 feet away*

Bastard. ;)

The good ole days were full of humor.. and cybering and blood fests. Thats the good ole days.. Rage truely hit the forums... um when was Jeffery's join date again, in Feburary. Actually I do miss the cattle runs of noobs straight back to wince they came. (And I don't care if I spelled shit wrong)

robin hoods
04-25-2006, 02:07 PM
I wouldn't have called my remark spamming, it was just used to break up the hostility between the two. Therefore I think i was adding something relevant to the thread.

I bet I can pick out tonnes of remarks that some of you have used in toher threads, which you have branded as spamming.

kegsworth
04-25-2006, 02:22 PM
*Shakes head*

"My dear, dear, Boogieman. What have I told you about making threads? - Always search before creating."

*Puts arm around Boogieman*

"It's ok guys, he's with me"Though, if your going to neg someone, make sure it's him, not me.

some1udontknow
04-26-2006, 11:11 PM
Its been basically suguested before.

Poop Slinger
04-27-2006, 08:51 AM
its been pointed out before. that its been pointed out before.

Jeffery
04-27-2006, 09:05 AM
So, has pointing out that pointing it out has been pointed out before been pointed out?

kegsworth
04-27-2006, 10:36 AM
So, has pointing out that pointing it out has been pointed out before been pointed out?

No, no . . .

I think you beat everyone to it.

yourself
04-27-2006, 01:16 PM
The problem with this has been noticed and brought up here many times. But I will reiterate that the main problem that is noticed with this is the issue of cheating. If a professional TAO player is in the same clan as a newb, (notice the spelling of that word. I do not mean "noob") then the temptation is there to "learn" from the pro, and therefore have a battle where the newb is not actually playing, but taking instruction from a pro. This is not inherently wrong, but can have some bad effects such as dependance. You can easily become dependant upon a pro to let him/her do your job for you, which in this case is win a battle. And if you take a moment to think about it, it's not worth it to have this "tool" as some may call it, just because of the inherent probability that some dumbass will use it to cheat.
It was a good idea, but not one to be considered because of the issue of cheating. Even with the time limits and limitations, it shouldn't be allowed. And I agree with the other posters that you may want to try searching before posting. And if you don't have time to search, you don't have time to post.

Megabyte
04-27-2006, 01:39 PM
I don't think cheating is a main concern for anyone here, nor for the issue itself (as it hasn't been addressed). Its only a concern for those who think along such paths (i.e. how to abuse the game system)..namely yourself.