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[Worker]

Since I have a baseball tourney tommorow, looks like I'll be listening to the Draft on the radio.I was at a soccer tournament last year during the draft, when people started saying that the Saints got Reggie Bush we all thought it was a joke. I didnt believe it till I actually got home and saw it on T.V.

[The Cheat]

I won't get to see any of the draft.....I have to go to cincinnati.....:(

[KickAssPlaya]

I'll be at work waiting impatiently for 8 PM to come.. I have some plans.. (no they are not sneaking into grad nite after work..)

~KAP

[The Cheat]

Just go to the Eagles Site (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com).

That is for a one game "throw back" day.
I'll be at work waiting impatiently for 8 PM to come.. I have some plans.. (no they are not sneaking into grad nite after work..)

~KAP

Doing what?

I must be under a rock...but up until three weeks ago...I had never heard of Calvin Johnson...

[KickAssPlaya]

Doing what?

I must be under a rock...but up until three weeks ago...I had never heard of Calvin Johnson...

Umm momst schools have a grad nite for seniors. My school just so happens to be going to Disney (where I work) and I will be attending after my shift. :) Not even a senior and still going to grad nite. :cool:

And even I heard of Calvin Johnson..

~KAP

[Memory]

I think its time the Jets get some respect. They were predicted to go 4-12 last season and ended with the 5th seed in AFC and 10 wins. And thats without a solid running game and mediocre rushing defense.

Now the Jets get Thomas Jones who will pair up with Leon Washington to give the Jets a balanced offense. Their passing game is all but set with Chad Pennington throwing to Cotchery and Coles. Look for the Jets to draft a solid TE in the second or third round.

In the first round, they will probably go with CB Aaron Ross from Texas. HE will play well alongside the team's other CB Andre Dyson and Hank Poteat. Safety Kerry Rhodes had a great season last year and will hopefully play well again this year. As for Vilma, he will adapt to the 3-4 defense and will be a Pro Bowler again.

The rest of the draft will be mostly defense and OL. They had a great dreft last year and hopefully a good one again this year.

Im just tired of the Jets not getting the respect they deserve. They are a tough, gritty team that will be Super Bowl contenders this upcoming season.

[DarkMethod GL]

Calvin Johnson is good, did you see any of his highlights before?

[Unforgottner]

With the first pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, The Oakland Raiders select QB JaMarcus Russell.

Who woulda guessed :p

[Blexican]

they better have.

i cant believe the browns passed on brady quinn >_<

[Unforgottner]

I cant believe the Dolphins just did.
He looked like he was about to cry.
Bills draft a RB. Wow...

[DarkMethod GL]

Ha, Browns got Brady anyway, and the Eagles are on the Clock now. And didn't the Bills need a RB since they got rid or Wilis?

Edit: Eagles traded their pick.

[endless]

Browns made a great move in my mind..

They'll be a powerful team next year.

[Unforgottner]

They still wont make the playoffs.

Yes, the Bills needed a RB, but I didnt expect to draft one in the first round.

[Memory]

Jets baby, drafted a CB and LB in rounds 1 and 2. Both are good solid defensive players. Ballin'

[endless]

Colts take a WR in the first round..

Peyton will have another weapon next year.. :D

Back to back?

[Unforgottner]

I think so far the Bills have drafted pretty well. That guy from Penn State is a defensive stud.

[KickAssPlaya]

Browns made a great move in my mind..

They'll be a powerful team next year.
Who'd the yget?
Colts take a WR in the first round..

Peyton will have another weapon next year.. :D

Back to back?

No. They won't have a repeat. :p

Who wants to fill me in on the Patriots? :p

~KAP

[Lost.Boy]

In my mind the browns have made best out of the draft.

[kingedward]

The browns were good, but my hometown lions didnt screw themselves like they usually do either

[Memory]

The browns were good, but my hometown lions didnt screw themselves like they usually do either

lol, they drafted a wide-reciever for the fourth straight year.

[DarkMethod GL]

Who'd the yget?


No. They won't have a repeat. :p

Who wants to fill me in on the Patriots? :p

~KAP

The Pats only had one pick yesterday because they traded their other ones. But they got Brandon Merriweather from Miami hes a safty/corner. Also theres a lot or rumors saying that the Pats might make a trade for Randy Moss today. And the Browns picked Joe Thomas at #3 and still were able to trade to get Brady Quinn at #22.

Edit: and yes the lions did pick another WR but Calvin Johnson is too good to pass up on. They also traded Mike Williams away anyway and got a QB second round. Also the Pats did trade for Moss and only had to give up a 4th round pick.

[KickAssPlaya]

Damn the Patriots are effing awesome! :cool:

Brady to Moss.. I can get used to that sound. :bigsmile: And we need DBs, once again, my Pats seem to have not let me down! :)

~KAP

[Sluff]

woo
go lions

[Anarchy_United]

Go Eagles!!

I liked there draft, and since their first pick was booed, he is guaranteed to be an allstar!! My favorite part is that Kevin Kolb was higher than Brady Quin on their draftboard.

[kingedward]

lol, they drafted a wide-reciever for the fourth straight year.


He was the best player in the draft...you cant blame them. What would you have done in that situation?

[Shaddix]

Damn the Patriots are effing awesome! :cool:

Brady to Moss.. I can get used to that sound. :bigsmile: And we need DBs, once again, my Pats seem to have not let me down! :)

~KAP

w00t go Pats!!!

[TTitan44]

Titans Draft:

1(19)-Michael Griffin-S-Texas
2(50)-Chris Henry-RB-Arizona
3(80)-Paul Williams-WR-Fresno State
4(115)-Leroy Harris-C-N.C. State
4(128)-Chris Davis-WR-Florida State
5(152)-Antonio Johnson-DT-Mississippi State
6(188)-Joel Filani-WR-Texas Tech
6(204)-Jacob Ford-DE-Central Arkansas
6(206)-Ryan Smith-CB-Florida
7(223)-Michael Otto-OT-Purdue

Although I wanted the Titans to get a WR in the 1st round. Our defense did need help(32nd last season) and Griffin helps that with, and helps with the Pacman issue. They did address the WR need by drafting 3. Henry will help LenDale White carry the load on the ground this year. Overall I think it was a good draft despite what Mel Kiper Jr. says.

[The Cheat]

IIm just tired of the Jets not getting the respect they deserve. They are a tough, gritty team that will be Super Bowl contenders this upcoming season.

That is why they won't win. Too boring to watch.
Calvin Johnson is good, did you see any of his highlights before?
Nope...I don't even know what school he went to.
With the first pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, The Oakland Raiders select QB JaMarcus Russell.

Who woulda guessed
NOT ME! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I cant believe the Dolphins just did.
He looked like he was about to cry.
Bills draft a RB. Wow...

Quinn is over-rated. He is going to be a bust.

Bills had to take a RB...they don't have anyone.
Ha, Browns got Brady anyway, and the Eagles are on the Clock now. And didn't the Bills need a RB since they got rid or Wilis?

Edit: Eagles traded their pick.

Again...Bills needed a RB.....
Browns made a great move in my mind..

They'll be a powerful team next year.

I can only pray....only pray...
They still wont make the playoffs.

Yes, the Bills needed a RB, but I didnt expect to draft one in the first round.

No....but if Browns stay healthy...they can at least compete....maybe.

Colts take a WR in the first round..

Peyton will have another weapon next year..

Back to back?

Not back to back...that won't happen.

But Colts needed another 3rd WR...since they fired Stokely.
In my mind the browns have made best out of the draft.

About damn time......
The browns were good, but my hometown lions didnt screw themselves like they usually do either

You sure about that?
lol, they drafted a wide-reciever for the fourth straight year.

Bad move....you can have all the WR you want but if there is no QB to throw it to them...or no RB to get the running game established....you got nothing.
Damn the Patriots are effing awesome! :cool:

Brady to Moss.. I can get used to that sound. :bigsmile: And we need DBs, once again, my Pats seem to have not let me down!

~KAP

Yep....Pats are going to win it this year. I'll say it now. :mad: :dry: :(
woo
go lions
:eek: :p :confused:

He was the best player in the draft...you cant blame them. What would you have done in that situation?

I woyld have not picked him. WR taken that high always suck.
Titans Draft:

1(19)-Michael Griffin-S-Texas
2(50)-Chris Henry-RB-Arizona
3(80)-Paul Williams-WR-Fresno State
4(115)-Leroy Harris-C-N.C. State
4(128)-Chris Davis-WR-Florida State
5(152)-Antonio Johnson-DT-Mississippi State
6(188)-Joel Filani-WR-Texas Tech
6(204)-Jacob Ford-DE-Central Arkansas
6(206)-Ryan Smith-CB-Florida
7(223)-Michael Otto-OT-Purdue

Although I wanted the Titans to get a WR in the 1st round. Our defense did need help(32nd last season) and Griffin helps that with, and helps with the Pacman issue. They did address the WR need by drafting 3. Henry will help LenDale White carry the load on the ground this year. Overall I think it was a good draft despite what Mel Kiper Jr. says.

Mel Kiper speaks the truth...he KNOWS ALL.

Piff...what a fan boy you are..

[ChainHeart]

mua!~

ducks won xD

[The Cheat]

mua!~

ducks won xD

No one cares about Hockey..or the NHL....

[_Darkness_]

The Cheat does it again.

[The Cheat]

The Cheat does it again.

What did I do now?


Be cool? Already done. :cool: :cool:

[_Darkness_]

Of course. What else would you do? Erm... I mean, what wouldn't you do? All hail The Great One.

[The Cheat]

Of course. What else would you do? Erm... I mean, what wouldn't you do? All hail The Great One.

Dude....I need to to say stuff like this after every post I make.


That and get other people to believe...like you do.

[_Darkness_]

I shall make them believe oh Mighty One. If they do not, I will simply pimp slap them until they do. All hail.

[Blexican]

isnt it funny how the titans go from henry ... to henry at RB.

[_Darkness_]

Blex, I am still waiting for my Banner!

[Blexican]

well apperently i suck, so i have to get back into making them first sorry dark.

[The Cheat]

I shall make them believe oh Mighty One. If they do not, I will simply pimp slap them until they do. All hail.

Now this is a wise man.....
isnt it funny how the titans go from henry ... to henry at RB.

THAT IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUNNY! :dry: :rolleyes:

[TTitan44]

Nope...I don't even know what school he went to.
Mel Kiper speaks the truth...he KNOWS ALL.

Piff...what a fan boy you are..

How do you not know what school he went to? Did you watch any draft coverage?

Mel Kiper does not no all. He said the Titans shouldn't have gone with Young at QB last year. Look how good that turned out.

isnt it funny how the titans go from henry ... to henry at RB.

If Chris Henry picks his number to be number 20, fans won't have to buy new jerseys.

[The Cheat]

How do you not know what school he went to? Did you watch any draft coverage?

Mel Kiper does not know all. He said the Titans shouldn't have gone with Young at QB last year. Look how good that turned out.



If Chris Henry picks his number to be number 20, fans won't have to buy new jerseys.


For the fourth time...NO I DID NOT WATCH ANY DRAFT COVERAGE...I was out of town.

I still think Vince is over-rated. Yes he is good....but great? That has yet to be seen.

ESPN several times today have called the Titans the losers of the draft...giving them the lowest grade in the draft.


They did nothing to help out Vince out.

[KickAssPlaya]

Where were my Pats graded at? :p

~KAP

[TTitan44]

For the fourth time...NO I DID NOT WATCH ANY DRAFT COVERAGE...I was out of town.

I still think Vince is over-rated. Yes he is good....but great? That has yet to be seen.

ESPN several times today have called the Titans the losers of the draft...giving them the lowest grade in the draft.


They did nothing to help out Vince out.


Yeah, drafting 3 recievers, 2 offensive lineman, and a running back is no help at all.

[KBHoleN1]

The Titans selected a safety in the first round, to help their terrible defense. I'm not sure the offense was what needed the most help.

[KickAssPlaya]

Yeah, drafting 3 recievers, 2 offensive lineman, and a running back is no help at all.

No. That has nothing to do with helping Vince. :rolleyes:

~KPA

[The Cheat]

Where were my Pats graded at? :p

~KAP
OK, if you really want to nitpick, the Patriots took too many guys in this draft. With such a veteran team, it's going to be hard for more than five of the nine players they drafted to make the team. That aside, what the Patriots did in the draft was little short of brilliant. They came up with a much-needed safety in Brandon Meriweather. They also came up with an extra first-round pick next year in a trade from San Francisco. They also got a good possession receiver in Wes Welker for a second and seventh rounder. Finally, they got Randy Moss for a fourth-round pick. That's a stunning haul and further proof of why the Pats are way ahead of the pack in this stuff.

Grade A+


The Titans selected a safety in the first round, to help their terrible defense. I'm not sure the offense was what needed the most help.

"This is a pretty iffy draft. Michael Griffin is a terrific strong safety, which the Titans need, but taking strong safeties in the first round is not always a great value choice. Chris Henry's selection in the second round is a big indictment of running back LenDale White, the team's second-round pick from last year who weighed in at more than 260 pounds earlier this offseason. That said, Henry may be more of a workout guy than a true player. The rest of the guys in this group are pretty low-potential players. Wide receiver Paul Williams is an example of a pure speed guy that the Titans love to draft, yet rarely develops into a great player.
Grade: D"


From yahoo.com



I'll get the ESPN version in a minute.

[Zander]

Randy Moss was traded for a 4th round pick...?:confused:

The chiefs & the raiders are just plain stupid.

[KickAssPlaya]

OK, if you really want to nitpick, the Patriots took too many guys in this draft. With such a veteran team, it's going to be hard for more than five of the nine players they drafted to make the team. That aside, what the Patriots did in the draft was little short of brilliant. They came up with a much-needed safety in Brandon Meriweather. They also came up with an extra first-round pick next year in a trade from San Francisco. They also got a good possession receiver in Wes Welker for a second and seventh rounder. Finally, they got Randy Moss for a fourth-round pick. That's a stunning haul and further proof of why the Pats are way ahead of the pack in this stuff.

Grade A+

Oh man. One thing the Patriots never lacked in was the draft. Well since Bellicheck came anyways. :p
Randy Moss was traded for a 4th round pick...?:confused:

The chiefs & the raiders are just plain stupid.

Personally, I love the Raiders. :) And I mean c'mon Randy Moss was barely worth that 4th round pick. :rolleyes:

~KAP

[The Cheat]

ESPN for some reason has fallen in love with San Francisco.


One guy said by 2008...they could be "contenders."

:eek: :confused:


Moss....he will kick ass this year.

Now Pats almost have too many WR....


This was a weak draft this year.

[KickAssPlaya]

Too many WR's?! Uh what you mean? ...

And yes I am outta the loop.. haven't had a chance to update myself yet. :(

~KAP

[Unforgottner]

Paul Posluzny ftw!

Jack Ham said he is the best LB from Penn State.

[KickAssPlaya]

Who the hell is Jack Ham? :confused:

~KAP

[Unforgottner]

One of the best LB'ers ever.

[FiReBrAnD]

Psh.. Roy Williams would tear some ass at the Linebacker position.

[Zander]

And I mean c'mon Randy Moss was barely worth that 4th round pick. :rolleyes:

~KAP
How enthusiastic of a player would you be if you went from taking passes from culpepper in his prime, to the NFL's leading QB's in sucking? He'll kick ass under brady(not that i'm a patriots fan)

[FiReBrAnD]

I hate the Pats, but they defiantly did pick a bad ass reciever up.

[Shaddix]

I hate the Pats, but they defiantly did pick a bad ass reciever up.

If you don't like the pats, then your lame:dry:

[Unforgottner]

I must be lame then.

[FiReBrAnD]

Pshh.. You must not check this forum often... COWBOYS all the WAY! Down with everyone else!
Dallas Cowboy fan til the day I die! :p

[TTitan44]

The Titans are actually going to start Michael Griffin at corner in stead of safety to help with the loss of Pacman and to help his man-to-man skills. Also, Mel Kiper said that Griffin was the most versatile defensive back due his successat UT playing corner, free safety, and strong saftey.

By the way, Pacman might be able to shortenhis suspension by filing an appeal.

Since being suspended, Jones has taken out a full page ad in the Nashville newspaper apologizing to everyone about his behavior and vowing to turn his life around for the better. He has also said he plans to re-enroll in WVU to get his degree. He also plans to set up a scholorship program for WVU walk-on football players.

[FiReBrAnD]

By the way, Pacman might be able to shortenhis suspension by filing an appeal.

Since being suspended, Jones has taken out a full page ad in the Nashville newspaper apologizing to everyone about his behavior and vowing to turn his life around for the better. He has also said he plans to re-enroll in WVU to get his degree. He also plans to set up a scholorship program for WVU walk-on football players.

He needs to do a lot of ass kissing. :p

[KBHoleN1]

How enthusiastic of a player would you be if you went from taking passes from culpepper in his prime, to the NFL's leading QB's in sucking? He'll kick ass under brady(not that i'm a patriots fan)
I think I could still be enthusiastic. Especially when I saw my paychecks. I mean, the guy gets paid millions of dollars to play a game, and he acts like he doesn't want to play. Get over yourself Randy Moss, the team is bigger than you! He won't get away with that shit in New England, but o course now that he's playing for a contender he will suddenly remember how to catch the ball.

[The Cheat]

Too many WR's?! Uh what you mean? ...

And yes I am outta the loop.. haven't had a chance to update myself yet. :(

~KAP

They signed like four WR's in the off season. I'm too lazy to recall them...but Kelly Washington, Wes...somethime from Miami....Donte Stallsworth (sp) are just a few I know of.
I hate the Pats, but they defiantly did pick a bad ass reciever up.

That is how I feel about it.
If you don't like the pats, then your lame:dry:

Then screw you.
Pshh.. You must not check this forum often... COWBOYS all the WAY! Down with everyone else!
Dallas Cowboy fan til the day I die! :p

*sigh*

Aren't fan boys fun?

Then again...
The Titans are actually going to start Michael Griffin at corner in stead of safety to help with the loss of Pacman and to help his man-to-man skills. Also, Mel Kiper said that Griffin was the most versatile defensive back due his successat UT playing corner, free safety, and strong saftey.

By the way, Pacman might be able to shortenhis suspension by filing an appeal.

Since being suspended, Jones has taken out a full page ad in the Nashville newspaper apologizing to everyone about his behavior and vowing to turn his life around for the better. He has also said he plans to re-enroll in WVU to get his degree. He also plans to set up a scholorship program for WVU walk-on football players.

*sigh*

Damn...I thought KAP was a fan boy...but I came to a understanding with him.

But you...man.....you take it beyond anything I have ever seen.

Jones is a punk. Period. I don't care if he did a crime or not (btw...he more than likely did), he's nothing but trouble and does not deserve to be in the league.

*waits fot Titan to make a long post kissing/"defending" Jones's ass*

[Worker]

The Colts lost a lot of guys on defense and didnt really fill many of those spots. The Saints drafted Antonio Pittman (RB), I bet hes going to be thrilled riding the pine watching Mcallister and Bush. LSU was represented well on the first day, and I didnt expect Quinn to fall that far. Thats really all iv gotten from draft weekend, I was too busy with other things.

[ThatGuy]

The Colts lost a lot of guys on defense and didnt really fill many of those spots. The Saints drafted Antonio Pittman (RB), I bet hes going to be thrilled riding the pine watching Mcallister and Bush. LSU was represented well on the first day, and I didnt expect Quinn to fall that far. Thats really all iv gotten from draft weekend, I was too busy with other things.

Ya....Colts are going to really suck this year.


There defense could be even worse that last year! :eek:

[FiReBrAnD]

Who needs defense when you have Peyton Manning running the offense?

[The Cheat]

Who needs defense when you have Peyton Manning running the offense?

True...but you have to have some sort of defense in order to make SOME stops.

You must have some sort of balance...

[TTitan44]

Pacman appealed his suspension.

[Worker]

Pacman appealed his suspension.So did Ricky Williams.

[Sluff]

Randy Moss was traded for a 4th round pick...?:confused:

The chiefs & the raiders are just plain stupid.

what'd the chiefs do?

[Sluff]

Who needs defense when you have Peyton Manning running the offense?

I am pretty sure the Colts got slaughtered when they faced Jaxonville in the regular season because their D let them down. Even when you have the best offense in the league, it won't do you much good if you have shitty D.

[Zander]

what'd the chiefs do?
lol.
They traded dante hall for a fifth-round pick to the rams, & switching their third-round picks with each other to go from(*gasp)84th to 82nd.

[Sluff]

aww
i liked dante...

[The Cheat]

I am pretty sure the Colts got slaughtered when they faced Jaxonville in the regular season because their D let them down. Even when you have the best offense in the league, it won't do you much good if you have shitty D.

Yep....the only reason they won the SB is bacuse their Defense got healthy the final two weeks of the season....and everyone thought the defense was a joke.
aww
i liked dante...

Too small.

[Zander]

Yep....the only reason they won the SB is bacuse their Defense got healthy the final two weeks of the season....and everyone thought the defense was a joke.


Too small.

*cough
The "only" reason?
Yes, you're absolutely right, grossman would've torn them apart if they hadn't gotten healthy!:rolleyes:

[The Cheat]

*cough
The "only" reason?
Yes, you're absolutely right, grossman would've torn them apart if they hadn't gotten healthy!:rolleyes:

Nah...i just think Hall had one great year...and that was all.


Hey...Grossman got them there....some how......and sucked once he faced a healthy Colts defense.

I'm ready for the season to start....

[Sluff]

Too small.

??
i dont get it

[The Cheat]

??
i dont get it

He's not a big guy....can't take a lot of abuse.


He's a good player...but should never play WR....he should only return kicks.

[KickAssPlaya]

They signed like four WR's in the off season. I'm too lazy to recall them...but Kelly Washington, Wes...somethime from Miami....Donte Stallsworth (sp) are just a few I know of.

Aren't fan boys fun?

Damn...I thought KAP was a fan boy...but I came to a understanding with him.

Hehe. Well now we can go in a 5 WR set. :p

And of course fanboys are fun!!! :cool:

We came to an understanding? :confused:

~KAP

[TTitan44]

*sigh*

Damn...I thought KAP was a fan boy...but I came to a understanding with him.

But you...man.....you take it beyond anything I have ever seen.

Jones is a punk. Period. I don't care if he did a crime or not (btw...he more than likely did), he's nothing but trouble and does not deserve to be in the league.

*waits fot Titan to make a long post kissing/"defending" Jones's ass*

Didn't know rooting for your team is bad. I know Tennessee doesn't have a great team. I'm not expecting them to win the super bowl. I know they won't win the AFC South with the Colts in there. I know Pacman should have been suspended, just not the whole season. I believe 10 games in enough.

Thing is Cheat, you act like you know football so much but I bet all the money in the world that I know more about the game than you. You go around acting like you work for ESPN and you are the almighty when it comes to football. And I know you going to try to make me look stupid from this post but it won't work. Here answer this question, a person that truely understands the game would know these.

1. You are playing the "Z" receiver (Knowing that you know what a "Z" receiver is) out of a Loose Right formation.

All four receivers are running seams, and right after the snap you read the Closest Linebacker blitz, and the nickel corner who is playing man on you is playing you off about 5 yards.

What do you do in this situation?

[FiReBrAnD]

1. You are playing the "Z" receiver (Knowing that you know what a "Z" receiver is) out of a Loose Right formation.

All four receivers are running seams, and right after the snap you read the Closest Linebacker blitz, and the nickel corner who is playing man on you is playing you off about 5 yards.

What do you do in this situation?


Just depends if he steps back when you run off the ball.. But I would run a quick slant or possibly an out.. I was a "Y" reciever though. :p

[The Cheat]

Hehe. Well now we can go in a 5 WR set. :p

And of course fanboys are fun!!! :cool:

We came to an understanding? :confused:

~KAP

Ummm.....sure why not?

Didn't know rooting for your team is bad. I know Tennessee doesn't have a great team. I'm not expecting them to win the super bowl. I know they won't win the AFC South with the Colts in there. I know Pacman should have been suspended, just not the whole season. I believe 10 games in enough.

Thing is Cheat, you act like you know football so much but I bet all the money in the world that I know more about the game than you. You go around acting like you work for ESPN and you are the almighty when it comes to football. And I know you going to try to make me look stupid from this post but it won't work. Here answer this question, a person that truely understands the game would know these.

1. You are playing the "Z" receiver (Knowing that you know what a "Z" receiver is) out of a Loose Right formation.

All four receivers are running seams, and right after the snap you read the Closest Linebacker blitz, and the nickel corner who is playing man on you is playing you off about 5 yards.

What do you do in this situation?

I don't know and I really don't care.

I never said i "knew" the game of football. I personally never have played....never was big enough/strong enough.

I'll admit it....the actual plays and systems teams and players know....I don't. I won't lie about what I don't know. You people who have actually played football will know more than me. This is true and I won't hide it. I never said I could be a coach or player.

All I do is voice my views. You all get on me about not liking one team....it's because I don't have a favorite team. I have no problem about rooting for one's favorite team....I just get mad when "fanboys" only look at/think about their team and believe that no matter what their team does is great.

Pacman for ten games? So he can play six? what would be the point of that then? By the time he would get to play, more than likely (but not always) the "big" games would already be over. True....things could be different...but that all depends. Better to wait a whole season.. not only to teach him a lesson....but to make sure he would be fully 100% mentally and physically ready to go.

Everything I post about my views here is nothing different than what I talk to my friends and family about. Yes I tend to go overboard on ceratin things, but hey, I am who I am.

I'd love to work for ESPN....but my opinions would not work for the company.

[KickAssPlaya]

Ummm.....sure why not?

All I do is voice my views. You all get on me about not liking one team....it's because I don't have a favorite team. I have no problem about rooting for one's favorite team....I just get mad when "fanboys" only look at/think about their team and believe that no matter what their team does is great.

Lol.

I only look at how good the Patriots are. :rolleyes:

~KAP

[The Cheat]

Lol.

I only look at how good the Patriots are. :rolleyes:

~KAP

I arrest my case.

But at least me and KAP have come to an semi-understanding.

[Worker]

Jones is a punk. Period. I don't care if he did a crime or not (btw...he more than likely did), he's nothing but trouble and does not deserve to be in the league.

*waits fot Titan to make a long post kissing/"defending" Jones's ass*Yet hes still defending him.

[The Cheat]

Yet hes still defending him.

And i'm STILL trying to figure out why....

[Lost.Boy]

im so happy I dont root for my home team the eagles they have choosen a quarterback in the draft and have lost a few good defensive guys hope they can get it together.

[Anarchy_United]

Just throwing this out there, but do not be suprised when the Patriots sputter. What you say, but they picked up Moss! Look how good brady was with bad receivers. However, look at this: Their Defense is Slow. Thomas is not gonna be able to play all the positions because of this, his remarkable ability was mostly from the ravens system. He will be forced to run down all the people that get past the slow New England Team. On offense, their O-Line, the single most important part of a successful offense, is getting old. What is Brady going to do when he has 2 seconds to get the pass off? Also, Lawrence Maroney is not going to be able to carry the load of running back at all. Then who? Kevin Faulk? He is mediocre at best. Patriots, most overhyped team this year.

Also, Browns. Sure, they fixed a few things. They will be better, with an Okay QB at Brady Quinn. He is going to be decent, never the best in the league, but he is good enough to start for a while. Will be in the top 15 QuarterBacks in 5 Years, mainly because of how much experience he will get. Not be a top 5 or Hall of Fame quarterback ever, but decent. Browns will not be Playoff Caliber, but much better this year than years past. My guess is 8-8 or 7-9.

[FiReBrAnD]

I doubt Brady Quinn will be good his first year.. I'm guessing they will go 6-10 or 7-9.

I think Titans are going to be decent this year though, I think Vince is going to have a good season.. They defiantly will get a Wild Card spot this season.

With the addition of Randy Moss.. I'm thinking the Pats are still going to be a great team this year but simply because they have Tom Brady operating the offense.. I'm guessing they will go maybe 2nd round of the play-offs not any further.

I'm looking forward to Carson Palmer having a come back season as last year he wasn't as good as the past year as he just came back from a ACL surgery.

[KickAssPlaya]

I arrest my case.

But at least me and KAP have come to an semi-understanding.

:p

But could you just fill me in on what our understanding is? :p

~KAP

[TTitan44]

My point is Cheat, he got suspended for being detrimental to the league. But since the day he was drafted he was never charged with a sinle crime. Therefore, I think the full season suspension is a little much.

Also, I just becasue Tennessee is my favorite team, doesn't mean I think they will win every game and win the Super Bowl. I think the best they will do this year is make the 6 seed wildcard and lose in the first round.

On a different note, Keyshawn Johnson reportily has been contacted by 4 teams. Philly, San Diego, NY Giants, and Tennessee. I doubt he will want to go to Philly because of the QB situation, and they don't want another loud-mouth WR like T.O.. Giants are a possibility but they already have a WR like Keyshawn in Burress. Which narrows it down to the Chargers and Titans. IF he wants the best shot at a ring, he'll sign with San Diego. If he wants to sign with an on the rise QB, he might sign with the Titans.

Oh, and the answer to my question would be you run hard upfield for about 5-6 yard then turn around for a quick curl pattern.

[Blexican]

Wow, randy Moss going to NE.

That should be interesting.

[The Cheat]

Just throwing this out there, but do not be suprised when the Patriots sputter. What you say, but they picked up Moss! Look how good brady was with bad receivers. However, look at this: Their Defense is Slow. Thomas is not gonna be able to play all the positions because of this, his remarkable ability was mostly from the ravens system. He will be forced to run down all the people that get past the slow New England Team. On offense, their O-Line, the single most important part of a successful offense, is getting old. What is Brady going to do when he has 2 seconds to get the pass off? Also, Lawrence Maroney is not going to be able to carry the load of running back at all. Then who? Kevin Faulk? He is mediocre at best. Patriots, most overhyped team this year.

Also, Browns. Sure, they fixed a few things. They will be better, with an Okay QB at Brady Quinn. He is going to be decent, never the best in the league, but he is good enough to start for a while. Will be in the top 15 QuarterBacks in 5 Years, mainly because of how much experience he will get. Not be a top 5 or Hall of Fame quarterback ever, but decent. Browns will not be Playoff Caliber, but much better this year than years past. My guess is 8-8 or 7-9.

Very very valid points. Nicely said.

I wish the Browns would win the many games...but it always seems that they get hurt so often.....

I doubt Brady Quinn will be good his first year.. I'm guessing they will go 6-10 or 7-9.

I think Titans are going to be decent this year though, I think Vince is going to have a good season.. They defiantly will get a Wild Card spot this season.

With the addition of Randy Moss.. I'm thinking the Pats are still going to be a great team this year but simply because they have Tom Brady operating the offense.. I'm guessing they will go maybe 2nd round of the play-offs not any further.

I'm looking forward to Carson Palmer having a come back season as last year he wasn't as good as the past year as he just came back from a ACL surgery.


I'm still not sure Quinn will EVER be a superstar....but a decent QB maybe...

Bengals will be better this year...

Pats are still the favorities right now.
:p

But could you just fill me in on what our understanding is? :p

~KAP

You like the Pats. :p
My point is Cheat, he got suspended for being detrimental to the league. But since the day he was drafted he was never charged with a single crime. Therefore, I think the full season suspension is a little much.

Also, I just becasue Tennessee is my favorite team, doesn't mean I think they will win every game and win the Super Bowl. I think the best they will do this year is make the 6 seed wildcard and lose in the first round.

On a different note, Keyshawn Johnson reportily has been contacted by 4 teams. Philly, San Diego, NY Giants, and Tennessee. I doubt he will want to go to Philly because of the QB situation, and they don't want another loud-mouth WR like T.O.. Giants are a possibility but they already have a WR like Keyshawn in Burress. Which narrows it down to the Chargers and Titans. IF he wants the best shot at a ring, he'll sign with San Diego. If he wants to sign with an on the rise QB, he might sign with the Titans.

Oh, and the answer to my question would be you run hard upfield for about 5-6 yard then turn around for a quick curl pattern.


It does not matter if he was ever "charged" no athlete..let alone a superstar...ever REALLY gets charged..

That is my point....people like him should not be aloud to play anywhere. If he was a regular blue-collar worker he would have already been fired. Period. Crime or not crime....behavor like that should not be found anywhere...

Don't even get me started on the money professionals make....

I'm sorry....but the way you sounded you already had Titans winning it all. I have noy trouble with you supporting your team...just tone it down a notch.


Keyshawn Johnson will be signed by someone....but i'm still shocked Panthers let him go....

Ahh curl pattern....I use that a lot on third down's when I play Madden..

[_Thunder_]

Picks to win the superbowl this year anyone?

[clay]

Well looking at the draft the Steelers had, wow. They heavily increased there defense. They drafed Lawrence Timmons out of Florida State and i was a little iffy on that pick but when they drafted Lamar Woodley out of Michigan, I was alot more confident in the first round pick. They also got the best punter in teh draft in Daniel Sepulvda. This guy is crazy and will instantly make our special teams better. I think they could make a serious run along with the Pats. Oh man, there offense is gonna be good lol.

[The Cheat]

Picks to win the superbowl this year anyone?

Too early to say.....wait untal AT LEAST week four or five...

Well looking at the draft the Steelers had, wow. They heavily increased there defense. They drafed Lawrence Timmons out of Florida State and i was a little iffy on that pick but when they drafted Lamar Woodley out of Michigan, I was alot more confident in the first round pick. They also got the best punter in teh draft in Daniel Sepulvda. This guy is crazy and will instantly make our special teams better. I think they could make a serious run along with the Pats. Oh man, there offense is gonna be good lol.

*coughsuperfancough*

[_Thunder_]

I say wait till preseason to make my real pick.

[The Cheat]

I say wait till preseason to make my real pick.

That is a good idea.

I still wait until at least a quarter of the season if over before I begin to make picks..

[KickAssPlaya]

Picks to win the superbowl this year anyone?

Patriots! Duh! :p

And the Cheat, yeah :p

~KAP

[Anarchy_United]

*sighs

If I knew you all in real life, I could make a lot of money making even odds bets against the Patriots winning the Superbowl. I probably can find some suckers anyways.

[TTitan44]

Picks to win the superbowl this year anyone?

It's a little to early but as of right now, the Pats have the best team on paper. If they play up to expectations this year, they will win the Super Bowl. But who will lining up against them in Phoenix? Hmmmm, I guess I might go with the Saints. Sure, tehy lost Joe Horn, but they drafted Robert Meachem of out of Tennessee, and they have Colsten returing.

Prediction: Pats-Saints

Pats win.

[The Cheat]

*sighs

If I knew you all in real life, I could make a lot of money making even odds bets against the Patriots winning the Superbowl. I probably can find some suckers anyways.


Hey...you still could....lots of time....
It's a little to early but as of right now, the Pats have the best team on paper. If they play up to expectations this year, they will win the Super Bowl. But who will lining up against them in Phoenix? Hmmmm, I guess I might go with the Saints. Sure, tehy lost Joe Horn, but they drafted Robert Meachem of out of Tennessee, and they have Colsten returing.

Prediction: Pats-Saints

Pats win.


I'll give you the Pats....for now...

But for some reason...I see the Saints not doing as well this year....still makiing playoffs....but not much farther...

Unless it's rigged again....

[Anarchy_United]

My early, early prediction is:
Eagles over Chargers. Liable to change as I start examining everyone closer.

If Eagles keep the same offense that they had with Garcia, and McNabb stays healthy, they will be dominant. Chargers are just to damn good all-around to keep on messing up in the Playoffs.

[EleMENTAL]

My early, early prediction is:
Eagles over Chargers. Liable to change as I start examining everyone closer.

If Eagles keep the same offense that they had with Garcia, and McNabb stays healthy, they will be dominant. Chargers are just to damn good all-around to keep on messing up in the Playoffs.

Eagles over Chargers?

HAHA!!

Anyways, I sadly agree that the Pats have a very good chance this year. But there is always that one game where they don't play as good as they should, that game could be in the playoffs.

[The Cheat]

My early, early prediction is:
Eagles over Chargers. Liable to change as I start examining everyone closer.

If Eagles keep the same offense that they had with Garcia, and McNabb stays healthy, they will be dominant. Chargers are just to damn good all-around to keep on messing up in the Playoffs.

1. Mcnabb staying healthy is always a big IF

2. With Mcnabb...the offense changes...and the run less. They did so well with Garcia because they had a good balance.
Eagles over Chargers?

HAHA!!

Anyways, I sadly agree that the Pats have a very good chance this year. But there is always that one game where they don't play as good as they should, that game could be in the playoffs.

We can only pray that happens.

[KickAssPlaya]

We can only pray that happens.

You ass. :glare:

jk. But seriously, I hope that our game we choke on is in like week12-17. Nothing after that. :p

~KAP

[The Cheat]

You ass. :glare:

jk. But seriously, I hope that our game we choke on is in like week12-17. Nothing after that. :p

~KAP

In the playoffs...anything can happen.

I thought the Pats had the game won at half time last year vs the Colts in the title game...so ya.

[KickAssPlaya]

Shows how much you know.. :rolleyes:

Manning got his ring.. he's done now. :p

Brady > Manning.
/instigates fight
~KAP

[The Cheat]

Shows how much you know.. :rolleyes:

Manning got his ring.. he's done now. :p

Brady > Manning.
/instigates fight
~KAP


This is true. Colts will never win another one ever again.

And ESPN does call Brady the "Golden Boy"

It is about time for them to win another one....and it would be a great story since they got Moss...a "team killer."

I'll wait and see if they rig it come playoff time.

[KickAssPlaya]

No need to rig it this year. It'll be just like the last two wins we had. :)

And duh, wouldn't that be a great story for the press.. "Moss, mr. punk, automatically becomes a team player. He finally gets a ring."

Somthing to that sort.. too tired to make a real headline. :p

~KAP

[The Cheat]

No need to rig it this year. It'll be just like the last two wins we had. :)

And duh, wouldn't that be a great story for the press.. "Moss, mr. punk, automatically becomes a team player. He finally gets a ring."

Somthing to that sort.. too tired to make a real headline. :p

~KAP

Yep....see it would make sense...almost TOO much since....

Hence that is wht the Saints did not win it all last year...EVERYONE who have known it was rigged then...

[KickAssPlaya]

Yeah but it won't be rigged this year. :p The Patriots addressed all of their weaknesses this off season. I don't care what you say, Moss wasn't that bad with the raiders and they sucked. :p

And now he is under Bellicheck's belt.. I think he will stop being a douche. And plus, he knows if he cooperates that his chances of getting a ring are high. ;)

~KAP

[The Cheat]

Yeah but it won't be rigged this year. :p The Patriots addressed all of their weaknesses this off season. I don't care what you say, Moss wasn't that bad with the raiders and they sucked. :p

And now he is under Bellicheck's belt.. I think he will stop being a douche. And plus, he knows if he cooperates that his chances of getting a ring are high. ;)

~KAP

You just points of how it IS rigged this year. :p


As of right now...Pats have it won.....but things could change...or they could not.

[Cosmo88]

Moss wasn't that bad with the raiders and they sucked. :p

Yeah, he was.

[_Darkness_]

Cosmo is back!

[Cosmo88]

I've always been here, just under Sluff lol

But anyways, a lot of people are forgetting about the Chargers, Saints, Colts, Bears and Ravens. These are all pretty complete teams, and even when you have the best team in the league, when you play either of these teams, one little thing that goes wrong can end up losing you the game. Yes, the Pats are the better team, but that doesn't mean they will win every game.

Also, usually the team that is picked to win it all will lose in the 1st playoff game they play, so that is what I am going with.

[TTitan44]

I think the 49ers will have a good season this year. I think they might be able to take away the NFC West title from the Seahawks.

[Lost.Boy]

I wonder how tampa bay may do they seem to be trying to get it together this season.

[MicSpor]

Chargers ftw.

[Anarchy_United]

Tampa Bay is gonna suck, all their stars are old, and they only have 1 decent WR on offense. Their O-Line sucks, and their quarterback sucks. 3-13 Is my bet.

[MicSpor]

Im going with 4-12.

[Anarchy_United]

The Lines win football games. Randy Moss and Tom Brady can't do shit if they only have 2 seconds or less to throw it. On defense, they Pat's o-line is no longer gonna be generating pressure as much. All the skill positions in the world can't do anything without protection/pressure. Give The colts the Texans O-Line, and the colts would be sub-500. Give the Texans the Colts O-Line, and the Texans are 10-6.

You guys all just look at the skill positions and say "zong! How could they possibly lose with someone that good!". Why do you think the Raiders, Lions, Texans, Browns, Cardinals sucked and keep on sucking? I told you the Cardinals would suck last year, and no one beleived me. All you could see was, "Boldin and Edge and Fitzgerald, they will be amazing!!!" Off course, Edge could not go anywhere without blocking, and they get another Top 5 pick.

[The Cheat]

I think the 49ers will have a good season this year. I think they might be able to take away the NFC West title from the Seahawks.

I could see that...the 49ers are rapidly improving....they could be only a few years away...
Tampa Bay is gonna suck, all their stars are old, and they only have 1 decent WR on offense. Their O-Line sucks, and their quarterback sucks. 3-13 Is my bet.

5-11....I say.

[Anarchy_United]

49ers are gonna be 10-6, lose first round of the Playoffs. Their Offense is gonna be at the top of the League, but their defense just isn't quite there. Darrell Jackson is a HUGE pickup, bigger than Randy Moss in my opinion. Next year though, the 49ers will be really nasty.

[Lost.Boy]

I say tampa is gonna surprise and get at least 6-10

[FiReBrAnD]

I say tampa is gonna surprise and get at least 6-10

That wouldn't be much of a suprise.. :p

[Lost.Boy]

fine 8-8 cowboys are gonna be same or worse depends of defense

[Sluff]

I think the 49ers will have a good season this year. I think they might be able to take away the NFC West title from the Seahawks.

I agree, Alex Smith is starting to become a pretty good player, along with Frank Gore of course.

[FiReBrAnD]

fine 8-8 cowboys are gonna be same or worse depends of defense

Psh, your sick.. They will least be 10-6. :p

[Lost.Boy]

Na sorry firebrand but I think they arent gonna improve on their last season

[Blexican]

Na sorry firebrand but I think they arent gonna improve on their last season

*smack*

don't anyone listen to him. Tony Romo had is messed up moment, now its time to come and pwn, hard. Terry Glenn,T.O.,Witten,Barber,Julius

hjgf
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jsfgjsfj

[_Thunder_]

St.Louis pwns all

[clay]

Na sorry firebrand but I think they arent gonna improve on their last season


Are you kidding??? They didn't have that bad of a season. If Romo didn't fuck up the snap they would have played in the conference finals...

[FiReBrAnD]

Na sorry firebrand but I think they arent gonna improve on their last season

you should really lay off the crack pipe.

[_Thunder_]

you should really lay off the crack pipe.
Amen brother.

[Worker]

Speaking of crack, a Jacksonville player(Ahmad Carroll was arrested on gun and drug charges this weekend, making him the 5th Jaguar arrested since September. They are going to give the Bengals a run for their money, but you might not ever hear about it.

[MicSpor]

you should really lay off the crack pipe.

I'm in to heroin more.

:cool: :p

[Worker]

I'm in to heroin more.

:cool: :phow do you come off posting that to a comment that wasnt directed to you in an NFL thread ? :rolleyes:

[MicSpor]

I was bored.

Nothing else happening.

[The Cheat]

Speaking of crack, a Jacksonville player(Ahmad Carroll was arrested on gun and drug charges this weekend, making him the 5th Jaguar arrested since September. They are going to give the Bengals a run for their money, but you might not ever hear about it.

Really? I did not know that!


If people are fighting...then let's make some bets shall we? Lost boy....Fire...i'm looking at you two...

[KickAssPlaya]

But anyways, a lot of people are forgetting about the Chargers, Saints, Colts, Bears and Ravens. These are all pretty complete teams, and even when you have the best team in the league, when you play either of these teams, one little thing that goes wrong can end up losing you the game. Yes, the Pats are the better team, but that doesn't mean they will win every game.

Also, usually the team that is picked to win it all will lose in the 1st playoff game they play, so that is what I am going with.
I smell a hater. :rolleyes:
The Lines win football games. Randy Moss and Tom Brady can't do shit if they only have 2 seconds or less to throw it. On defense, they Pat's o-line is no longer gonna be generating pressure as much. All the skill positions in the world can't do anything without protection/pressure. Give The colts the Texans O-Line, and the colts would be sub-500. Give the Texans the Colts O-Line, and the Texans are 10-6.

You guys all just look at the skill positions and say "zong! How could they possibly lose with someone that good!". Why do you think the Raiders, Lions, Texans, Browns, Cardinals sucked and keep on sucking? I told you the Cardinals would suck last year, and no one beleived me. All you could see was, "Boldin and Edge and Fitzgerald, they will be amazing!!!" Off course, Edge could not go anywhere without blocking, and they get another Top 5 pick.
Uimmm, seeing as I play on the o-line, I can tell you first hand the game depends on us. And why do you say our o-line will only give Brady 2 seconds? If I remember correctly, we had two rookies starting on our o-line and they didn't do that bad. Granted some things could've happened in the offseason that I am not yet aware of.. but please fill me in on this.

Thank you Captain Obvious on your last point. Don't generalize like that because I am not a dumbass. But the Patriots were slacking as a group in the WR core, and they picked up a "big name" WR, so why wouldn't I be excited?

Are you kidding??? They didn't have that bad of a season. If Romo didn't fuck up the snap they would have played in the conference finals...
Or if he wasn't such a pansy and threw a block they could've advanced. Shit all he had to do was get in that guy's way and they won.. but no he was a lil b****. :p Oh well, sucks for Cowboys fans.

~KAP

[The Cheat]

I smell a hater. :rolleyes:

Uimmm, seeing as I play on the o-line, I can tell you first hand the game depends on us. And why do you say our o-line will only give Brady 2 seconds? If I remember correctly, we had two rookies starting on our o-line and they didn't do that bad. Granted some things could've happened in the offseason that I am not yet aware of.. but please fill me in on this.

Thank you Captain Obvious on your last point. Don't generalize like that because I am not a dumbass. But the Patriots were slacking as a group in the WR core, and they picked up a "big name" WR, so why wouldn't I be excited?


Or if he wasn't such a pansy and threw a block they could've advanced. Shit all he had to do was get in that guy's way and they won.. but no he was a lil b****. :p Oh well, sucks for Cowboys fans.

~KAP


Wow.....KAP is sounding more cheat-like. Very nice.


This is going to be a fun season....in Sept...:( :( :(

[KickAssPlaya]

Wow.....KAP is sounding more cheat-like. Very nice.


This is going to be a fun season....in Sept...:( :( :(

I only hope one day I can reach your status, Cheat. :rolleyes:

And it won't be fun until the end of December/early January. :wink2:

Oh.. and I am not going ot be watching as much football on sundays as I used to.. :(:( But I need to work and get money for gas/car insurance and other things that teenagers do. I will however, be watching sportscenter more again like I used to and will watch 90% of all primetime games..

~KAP

[Anarchy_United]

Tony Romo is not going to improve. If you did not notice, he was only good until other teams got some film on him. Then suddendly, eveyone was owning him. The Cowboys aren't gonna be good, their defense is okay, and their offense is atrocious.

Also, Kickassplaya, did you happen to see the Chargers Pats game? Tom Brady had almost zero time every single play.

[TTitan44]

I think a team that could suprise everyone this year is the Ravens.

[KickAssPlaya]

Also, Kickassplaya, did you happen to see the Chargers Pats game? Tom Brady had almost zero time every single play.

And who happened to win that game? Even with Tom Brady having no time to throw. So you proved my point for me, I owe ya one now. :)

~KAP

[Anarchy_United]

They won the game because the Chargers handed it to them on a silver platter... it had nothing to do with Tom Brady. He had 3 int, any time you have 3 int, it is not good.

[Shaddix]

Wont matter this year, they could send Moss and Stallworth down field and just throw hailmary's all day. If you have ever seen these guys play, they have explosive speed of the line and they know how to play a defender 1 v 1. You can't forget about Big Ben Watson either.

[The Cheat]

I only hope one day I can reach your status, Cheat. :rolleyes:

And it won't be fun until the end of December/early January. :wink2:

Oh.. and I am not going ot be watching as much football on sundays as I used to.. :(:( But I need to work and get money for gas/car insurance and other things that teenagers do. I will however, be watching sportscenter more again like I used to and will watch 90% of all primetime games..

~KAP

Watching something is better than watching nothing at all.

Come playoff time is when we will really debate....
Tony Romo is not going to improve. If you did not notice, he was only good until other teams got some film on him. Then suddendly, eveyone was owning him. The Cowboys aren't gonna be good, their defense is okay, and their offense is atrocious.

Also, Kickassplaya, did you happen to see the Chargers Pats game? Tom Brady had almost zero time every single play.

I really do think Romo is over-rated. Cowboys will be just about the same if not worse then they were last year. They have the ability to be an force...but then again...every one in their division vould be,
I think a team that could suprise everyone this year is the Ravens.

"suprise?" A team with a great QB....a SUPER defense..and now a top free agent RB?

They arern't going to suprise anyone....they are good. Period.

[Lost.Boy]

Patriots cant handle moss and stallworth they are gonnabe complaining about whos gonna get more glory lol. I think that tables are gonna be turned all bad teams seem to of for some part gotten their act together 49ers ravens dolphins are all gonna do better.

[Blexican]

Your on crack if you thought the ravens were doing BAD.

yuo didnt even put the last team in the league in there.

[Lost.Boy]

The Ravens did good but it was because of their defense their offense wasnt to hot.
and there are other teams who werent good also like the Raiders or others.

[Worker]

They won the game because the Chargers handed it to them on a silver platter... it had nothing to do with Tom Brady. He had 3 int, any time you have 3 int, it is not good.Ya, the Chargers lost that game through a series of VERY unfortunate events.

I think a team that could suprise everyone this year is the Ravens.Anything short of winning the superbowl wont be a suprise, they were a playoff team last year.




I really do think Romo is over-rated.


Kerry Underwood doesnt think hes over-rated. ;)

Patriots cant handle moss and stallworth they are gonnabe complaining about whos gonna get more glory lol. .Stallworth wont be any trouble, he played with Joe Horn on the Saints who has the same bad attitude as Randy Moss.


One things for sure though, the Saints are going to have some tough company this year in the NFC South. I doubt any of the teams will be push-overs this year.

[TTitan44]

"suprise?" A team with a great QB....a SUPER defense..and now a top free agent RB?

They arern't going to suprise anyone....they are good. Period.

But they fly under the radar when people aer talking about good teams. Right no everyone is saying how that Pats will go all they way, which they very well might. But, not a lot of people metion the Ravens.

[Anarchy_United]

Ravens are gonna be good this year, no suprise. Cheat, who you think coming out of the NFC East? I like the Eagles(As always). I am slightly biast of course, but I beleive we are the best team.

[KickAssPlaya]

They won the game because the Chargers handed it to them on a silver platter... it had nothing to do with Tom Brady. He had 3 int, any time you have 3 int, it is not good.
Yeah.. but they still won. :p It might not have been a "pretty" win, but a win is a win.
Wont matter this year, they could send Moss and Stallworth down field and just throw hailmary's all day. If you have ever seen these guys play, they have explosive speed of the line and they know how to play a defender 1 v 1. You can't forget about Big Ben Watson either.
Watson = best TE. :p yeah BEST. =P
Watching something is better than watching nothing at all.

Come playoff time is when we will really debate...
Yeah you got a point there. :p And Indeed to come playoff time we'll be debating. ;) Consider it a date. <3
Stallworth wont be any trouble, he played with Joe Horn on the Saints who has the same bad attitude as Randy Moss.
Agreed.

And yes all of my posts are gunna be biased, get over it. :p

~KAP

[The Cheat]

The Ravens did good but it was because of their defense their offense wasnt to hot.
and there are other teams who werent good also like the Raiders or others.
Yey they were a major threat going into the playoffs and several teams had them beating the Colts first round.
Ya, the Chargers lost that game through a series of VERY unfortunate events.

Anything short of winning the superbowl wont be a suprise, they were a playoff team last year.

Kerry Underwood doesnt think hes over-rated. ;)

Stallworth wont be any trouble, he played with Joe Horn on the Saints who has the same bad attitude as Randy Moss.


One things for sure though, the Saints are going to have some tough company this year in the NFC South. I doubt any of the teams will be push-overs this year.

*carrie

Chargers will always be good.

Moss will be fine.

Romo has too much hype/ego.

Saints will have to play even better to reach as far as they did last year. I see them losing first round in the playoffs.
But they fly under the radar when people aer talking about good teams. Right now everyone is saying how that Pats will go all they way, which they very well might. But, not a lot of people metion the Ravens.

Ravens ALWAYS fly under the radar.....

Even when are are Uber good...no one talks about them....hence why they win. No hype=big suprise..
Ravens are gonna be good this year, no suprise. Cheat, who you think coming out of the NFC East? I like the Eagles(As always). I am slightly biast of course, but I beleive we are the best team.

Wow NFC East....

Got a coin? It is always hard to pick that...you never know who is comming out that mess.
Yeah.. but they still won. :p It might not have been a "pretty" win, but a win is a win.

Watson = best TE. :p yeah BEST. =P

Yeah you got a point there. :p And Indeed to come playoff time we'll be debating. ;) Consider it a date. <3

Agreed.

And yes all of my posts are gunna be biased, get over it. :p

~KAP

Cheat+KAP=Date?

WTF?

Tisk Tisk....biased posts are bad m'kay?

[KickAssPlaya]

Ravens ALWAYS fly under the radar.....

Even when are are Uber good...no one talks about them....hence why they win. No hype=big suprise..

Cheat+KAP=Date?

WTF?

Tisk Tisk....biased posts are bad m'kay?

Ehh.. they don't win. :p Ravens = noobs.

And yes, it'd be a hawt date. :wink2:

Well.. I'll try to make them as unbiased as possible.. but if there's something about my PAtriots.. it'll will most likely be slightly biased.. ;)

~KAP

[Lex]

I have only 4 letters and a hyphen for you guys...

G-Men.

[The Cheat]

Ehh.. they don't win. :p Ravens = noobs.

And yes, it'd be a hawt date. :wink2:

Well.. I'll try to make them as unbiased as possible.. but if there's something about my PAtriots.. it'll will most likely be slightly biased.. ;)

~KAP

I don't like the Ravens as well...but thier record and wins seak for themselves...

Smexy date? :eek:
I have only 4 letters and a hyphen for you guys...

G-Men.

How can they wil with a QB that is not a leader, a TE whp is a loose cannon, and no RB?

[KickAssPlaya]

I got one word and a punctuation mark to add to it.

Suck.

~KAP

EDIT: Yes Cheat, it would be smexy. ;)

[Lex]

I don't like the Ravens as well...but thier record and wins seak for themselves...

Smexy date? :eek:


How can they wil with a QB that is not a leader, a TE whp is a loose cannon, and no RB?

Pssh, was Trent Dilfer a leader? Was Rex Grossman a leader( they didn't win, but they got to the Superbowl) Eli > Rex :)

Jeremy Shockey can be as loose as he wants, he still produces.
No RB? Sure we don't Have tiki anymore :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
But he got Ruben Droughns, who's decent enough, and we still have Brandon Jacobs, who's a beast.

Besides, we're in the NFC East, prolly the weakest Divison, besides the NFC North, in the NFL.

GO G-MEN!

[The Cheat]

Pssh, was Trent Dilfer a leader? Was Rex Grossman a leader( they didn't win, but they got to the Superbowl) Eli > Rex :)

Jeremy Shockey can be as loose as he wants, he still produces.
No RB? Sure we don't Have tiki anymore :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
But he got Ruben Droughns, who's decent enough, and we still have Brandon Jacobs, who's a beast.

Besides, we're in the NFC East, prolly the weakest Divison, besides the NFC North, in the NFL.

GO G-MEN!

Dilfer got a bum rap..and was semi cool.

Grossman was.......Dilfer got a bum rap.

Shocky produces....when he wants to....he is not as consistant as he once was.

Droughns is not bad i'll give you that....but Jacobs is not a every down kinda of guy...but if they use the two RB system like so many others...than maybe.

ESPN is saying that this is Eli's last year to produce...or else.

NFC EAST WEAK? YOU KIDDING ME?

They give AT LEAST two playoff teams every year and every team in that divison is always ok....weak?

Heck no..

[Zander]

giants were my underdog hope last year.

[KickAssPlaya]

NFC is definately weaker then the AFC Cheat. ;)

~KAP

[The Cheat]

NFC is definately weaker then the AFC Cheat. ;)

~KAP

Did I ever say it wasn't?

I meant to say the NFC EAST was not weak...not the NFC as a whole...

[KickAssPlaya]

Well make up my mind on what you're saying. :p

~KAP

[DyneX]

I really hope the Jets improve this year. but sadly i think they will be 8-8 , just normal.

[Worker]

Ravens ALWAYS fly under the radar.....





They are not in a big media market, hence why they are "always under the radar". They also do not have any big names that would draw the media attention from outside.

[The Cheat]

They are not in a big media market, hence why they are "always under the radar". They also do not have any big names that would draw the media attention from outside.

Ya I know.


Hence why I said they always fly under the radar....

Still can't believe they put Young on the cover...

[Lost.Boy]

Still can't believe they put Young on the cover...

Young did do good last season and suprised alot of people so him on the cover shouldnt be that far off.

[The Cheat]

Young did do good last season and suprised alot of people so him on the cover shouldnt be that far off.

He's to..pardon the pun...Young to be on the cover.


He's only been in the league one year. Only a vet should go on the cover..


Want proof the Madden curse is real? Peyton or Brady have been on the cover...and look at how well they each do...

[Unforgottner]

Want proof the Madden curse is real? Peyton or Brady have not been on the cover...and look at how well they each do...

:rolleyes:

[KickAssPlaya]

He's to..pardon the pun...Young to be on the cover.


He's only been in the league one year. Only a vet should go on the cover..


Want proof the Madden curse is real? Peyton or Brady have been on the cover...and look at how well they each do...

I believe in the Madden curse. Hence I never want Brady or ANY Patriot on the cover! Unless they are retiring..

~KAP

[TTitan44]

He's to..pardon the pun...Young to be on the cover.


He's only been in the league one year. Only a vet should go on the cover..


Want proof the Madden curse is real? Peyton or Brady have been on the cover...and look at how well they each do...

But in one year in the NFL, this is what he has accomplished.

*8-5 as a rookie starter.

*6 straight wins to almost put Tennessee in the playoffs

*Down 21-0 with 10 minutes in the game, brings them back to win it 24-21.

*AP Offensive Rookie Of The Year

*Diet Pepsi NFL Rookie Of The Year

*AFC Pro Bowl QB

[The Cheat]

I believe in the Madden curse. Hence I never want Brady or ANY Patriot on the cover! Unless they are retiring..

~KAP

Hence why they always qin and do really well....

Kinda strange the NFL never would put two of it's biggest stars on the cover...;)
But in one year in the NFL, this is what he has accomplished.

*8-5 as a rookie starter.

*6 straight wins to almost put Tennessee in the playoffs

*Down 21-0 with 10 minutes in the game, brings them back to win it 24-21.

*AP Offensive Rookie Of The Year

*Diet Pepsi NFL Rookie Of The Year

*AFC Pro Bowl QB


1. 8-5....i'll give him that...not bad.

2. So what? It was only one game...

3. who cares?

4. See number 3.

5. Don't even get me started on the Pro Bowl.


Yes he is good....I'll give him that.

But UBER good? Cover good? Hell no.

Shame to see him hurt/suck next year.

[Lex]

Hence why they always qin and do really well....

Kinda strange the NFL never would put two of it's biggest stars on the cover...;)



1. 8-5....i'll give him that...not bad.

2. So what? It was only one game...

3. who cares?

4. See number 3.

5. Don't even get me started on the Pro Bowl.


Yes he is good....I'll give him that.

But UBER good? Cover good? Hell no.

Shame to see him hurt/suck next year.

He said 6 things you answered to 5 :P
But yeah vince is not cover worthy, Tiki should have been on the cover, i don't care if he was playign this year or not, Tiki Ftw!

[TTitan44]

Personally, I was hoping they would put my favorite current player Jason Taylor on teh cover.

[Unforgottner]

They always put someone I totally dont expect on the cover.
Ex: Vince Young.

[Worker]

Yes he is good....I'll give him that.

But UBER good? Cover good? Hell no.

Shame to see him hurt/suck next year.I have to disagree with you here Cheat, I think hes a good choice.

Something else you need to consider is that other choices for the cover, veteran players like you said should be on it, have turned it down because of the "madden curse"

[TTitan44]

I have to disagree with you here Cheat, I think hes a good choice.

Something else you need to consider is that other choices for the cover, veteran players like you said should be on it, have turned it down because of the "madden curse"

Yeah, it was rumored that LT turned down the cover.

[Blexican]

Pacman wont play this season :dry:

And guys, its just a cover.

*New banner*

[endless]

Why hasnt manning been on the cover?!

Srsly... hes done like every other ad....

[TTitan44]

Why hasnt manning been on the cover?!

Srsly... hes done like every other ad....

He has been on the cover of every single NFL Fever. He's all covered out.

[The Cheat]

I have to disagree with you here Cheat, I think hes a good choice.

Something else you need to consider is that other choices for the cover, veteran players like you said should be on it, have turned it down because of the "madden curse"

Well people liked Vince from college.....

Also since no vet want to get hurt....and he is a running QB with a higher chance of getting hurt....

That means EA is making sure the curse is going to continue..

A sophmore/runner will have a higher chance of getting hurt/suck.

EA are no fools.
Yeah, it was rumored that LT turned down the cover.

Ya...the fans sent EA a lot of letters begging them not to put him on the cover..
Why hasnt manning been on the cover?!

Srsly... hes done like every other ad....

For the NFL does not want to see him hurt..

[Lost.Boy]

the madden curse = never been false every year the guy is on the madden cover he gets hurt youngs turn.

[The Cheat]

the madden curse = never been false every year the guy is on the madden cover he gets hurt youngs turn.

Hurt

OR

They just really suck that year.

[TTitan44]

Hurt

OR

They just really suck that year.


Garrison Hearst - Broke Ankle (Missed Rest Of Playoff Game & His Team Lost)

Barry Sanders - Retired / Dorsey Levens - Sucked

Eddie George - Sucked

Daunte Culpepper - Sucked

Marshall Faulk - Injured Ankle (Missed 6 Games)

Michael Vick - Broke Leg (Missed 11 Games)

Ray Lewis - Injured (Missed 10 Games)

Donovan McNabb - Sports Hernia (Missed 7 Games)

Shaun Alexander - Fractured Left Foot (Missed 6 Games)

Vince Young - ???

[Jeffery]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070512/ap_en_ce/people_brownback_favre

PS: When in Wisconsin, be careful what the hell you say about Football.

[TTitan44]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070512/ap_en_ce/people_brownback_favre

PS: When in Wisconsin, be careful what the hell you say about Football.

Hahahaha.
"How many passes can Brett Favre complete without a line"
"All of them"

[The Cheat]

Garrison Hearst - Broke Ankle (Missed Rest Of Playoff Game & His Team Lost)

Barry Sanders - Retired / Dorsey Levens - Sucked

Eddie George - Sucked

Daunte Culpepper - Sucked

Marshall Faulk - Injured Ankle (Missed 6 Games)

Michael Vick - Broke Leg (Missed 11 Games)

Ray Lewis - Injured (Missed 10 Games)

Donovan McNabb - Sports Hernia (Missed 7 Games)

Shaun Alexander - Fractured Left Foot (Missed 6 Games)

Vince Young - ???


You have just proven the curse....nice one.

[TTitan44]

You have just proven the curse....nice one.

Yeah... I guess I did prove it, didn't I?

[The Cheat]

Yeah... I guess I did prove it, didn't I?

Ya...you did. :dry:

Duh.


Since there is nothing left to say...time to debate.

Most over-rated player is.....

[TTitan44]

Mike Vick, Randy Moss, and Reggie Bush.

[Lost.Boy]

Reggie bush even though he is good he didnt even to do much

[The Cheat]

Mike Vick, Randy Moss, and Reggie Bush.

Wow....big time list.

I like Vick....but i'll agree.

Moss and Bush I'll agree with to. But care to explain on how you decided on those three?

[TTitan44]

Wow....big time list.

I like Vick....but i'll agree.

Moss and Bush I'll agree with to. But care to explain on how you decided on those three?

Sure.

Vick - Do I even need to explain?

Moss - Ever since leaving Minnesota he hasn't been the least bit productive. People still consider him one of the best WR's in the game today when he's not.

Bush - Everyone thinks he do in the NFL what he did in college. As of right now, he is not an every down back. He works pretty good with a freight train (Deuce McCallister). People consider him one of the best current RB's out there today. But Bush is far from it, he still has to work more on his game. Although, most likely he might reach that someday.

[KickAssPlaya]

Mike Vick, Randy Moss, and Reggie Bush.

How'd you get Vick? :confused:

~KAP

EDIT: Moss hasn't been too productive since he left the Vikings because look at where he was. The freaking raiders.. they're garbage. Watch, this year he'll be productive and get a ring. ;)

[The Cheat]

Sure.

Vick - Do I even need to explain?

Moss - Ever since leaving Minnesota he hasn't been the least bit productive. People still consider him one of the best WR's in the game today when he's not.

Bush - Everyone thinks he do in the NFL what he did in college. As of right now, he is not an every down back. He works pretty good with a freight train (Deuce McCallister). People consider him one of the best current RB's out there today. But Bush is far from it, he still has to work more on his game. Although, most likely he might reach that someday.

You are right..once Moss left Minnesota...he was done.

Very strong points about Bush......nice to find someone who agrees with my view on him. He's a Westbrook....but not as good.
How'd you get Vick? :confused:

~KAP

Vick can't pass. :rolleyes:

[KickAssPlaya]

Eh I'll give you his accuracy isn't 100% but he sure as hell can beam it and/or chuck it down the field. :p

~KAP

[The Cheat]

Eh I'll give you his accuracy isn't 100% but he sure as hell can beam it and/or chuck it down the field. :p

~KAP

When he is not looking for the run first.....which he always does. He can't be a pure QB...it's not in his blood.
EDIT: Moss hasn't been too productive since he left the Vikings because look at where he was. The freaking raiders.. they're garbage. Watch, this year he'll be productive and get a ring. ;)

So says the Pats fan..... :rolleyes:

[TTitan44]

Eh I'll give you his accuracy isn't 100% but he sure as hell can beam it and/or chuck it down the field. :p

~KAP

He may be able to beam it or chuck it down the field, but what NFL QB can't. But the problem with Vick is his performance is like a roller coaster. Sometimes he does really good, and others, well.....let's just say he doesn't do too good.

EDIT: Yeah, but Moss is the kind of guy that wants the ball all the time. Brady isn't the kind of QB to throw to just one person. Look back to when he won those 3 rings, he spread the ball around to every WR and TEon that team.

[Worker]

Bush - Everyone thinks he do in the NFL what he did in college. As of right now, he is not an every down back. He works pretty good with a freight train (Deuce McCallister). People consider him one of the best current RB's out there today. But Bush is far from it, he still has to work more on his game. Although, most likely he might reach that someday.

He wasnt an every down back in college(Lendale White(sp)), he is doing exactly what he did in college. Hes going to stay in that role because thats where he is most effective and the biggest threat. Trying to run him up the middle as an every down back would completely take away what makes him a threat when he touches the ball. Why do you think the Saints drafted Antonio Pittman? to have another back to take a beating.

And Cheat ill agree that Bush is overrated on the hype about him , but all the points titan made are bogus. His versatility alone(he scored many different ways), the options that the Saints offense have, and the fact that defenses are always watching him. Of course people are going to look at him as being overrated, but thats because of the hype I mentioned earlier, he was just a rookie, and if you are trying to say he wasnt a key piece of the Saints run to the playoff's last year you are crazy.



Moss - Ever since leaving Minnesota he hasn't been the least bit productive. People still consider him one of the best WR's in the game today when he's not.

Moss would of dropped like a ton of bricks had he stayed in Minnesota with Culpepper out because of injury.


Vick is the highest paid player in the NFL. lol..

[Lost.Boy]

All I have to say is no Duece and bush is gonna drop.

[FiReBrAnD]

Vick should be a Running Back or Reciever, not a QB. :)

And Bush played a major role in the Saints offense because a lot of teams towards the end of season started to make defenses to protect against that little HB Pass the Saints did with him all the time when he came on the field, but he wasn't the only reason why they did so good a lot of credit needs to be given to Drew Brees for doing what he did last year.

[DarkMethod GL]

The Bears are thinking about trying to move Hester to a WR for next season instead of a CB. And rumors that Favre wants to be traded. Also just because we're talking about Bush, I like when he got destroyed by Sheldon Brown in the playoffs, that hit was crazy.

[Lost.Boy]

THAT hit made me laugh he got em good ^_^. Eagles lost jones though it wont be to big if jeremiah trotter comes back to bad he was injured all last season.

[Anarchy_United]

A bit of irony about that play, I was watching the game with a bunch of Bears fans, and one of them before that play says, "Lets see how the Eagles will come out on defense." When Sheldon came out and wrecked Reggie Bush, it was amazing.

[TTitan44]

He wasnt an every down back in college(Lendale White(sp)), he is doing exactly what he did in college. Hes going to stay in that role because thats where he is most effective and the biggest threat. Trying to run him up the middle as an every down back would completely take away what makes him a threat when he touches the ball. Why do you think the Saints drafted Antonio Pittman? to have another back to take a beating.

And Cheat ill agree that Bush is overrated on the hype about him , but all the points titan made are bogus. His versatility alone(he scored many different ways), the options that the Saints offense have, and the fact that defenses are always watching him. Of course people are going to look at him as being overrated, but thats because of the hype I mentioned earlier, he was just a rookie, and if you are trying to say he wasnt a key piece of the Saints run to the playoff's last year you are crazy.


Moss would of dropped like a ton of bricks had he stayed in Minnesota with Culpepper out because of injury.


Vick is the highest paid player in the NFL. lol..

But when people consider him one of the best RB's in the league right now when he is only a rookie makes him overrated.

[The Cheat]

All I have to say is no Duece and bush is gonna drop.

Indeed.

Bush can't be a everydown back....and that is what is going to limit him.

When he comes into the game...people will be looking at him and only him...hence when he comes into the game....the focus will be on him..and that will be easy to stop in time.
Vick should be a Running Back or Reciever, not a QB. :)

And Bush played a major role in the Saints offense because a lot of teams towards the end of season started to make defenses to protect against that little HB Pass the Saints did with him all the time when he came on the field, but he wasn't the only reason why they did so good a lot of credit needs to be given to Drew Brees for doing what he did last year.

All very good points. Brees deserves more credit than Bush hands down.

Vick needs to be a RB....
The Bears are thinking about trying to move Hester to a WR for next season instead of a CB. And rumors that Favre wants to be traded. Also just because we're talking about Bush, I like when he got destroyed by Sheldon Brown in the playoffs, that hit was crazy.

Hester is over-rated. He is a return man. Period. He is going to fail at everything else.
But when people consider him one of the best RB's in the league right now when he is only a rookie makes him overrated.

Damn right!

[KickAssPlaya]

Vick needs to be a RB....

Are you mad? Vick is not big enough to be a RB..

~KaP

[The Cheat]

Are you mad? Vick is not big enough to be a RB..

~KaP

It was a joke.......

[TTitan44]

The only other positions I could see Vick playing would either be WR or KR/PR.

He would die playing RB because I don't think he would be able to take all those hits RB's do.

[Blexican]

The Bears are thinking about trying to move Hester to a WR for next season instead of a CB. And rumors that Favre wants to be traded. Also just because we're talking about Bush, I like when he got destroyed by Sheldon Brown in the playoffs, that hit was crazy.

Those arent rumors, there FACTS! Bret DOES wanna be traded, he demanded it O_O! They are thinking of making Hester a WR or RB, they said "Why let that talent go to waste?" lol like a CB is a waste :rolleyes:

[TTitan44]

Those arent rumors, there FACTS! Bret DOES wanna be traded, he demanded it O_O! They are thinking of making Hester a WR or RB, they said "Why let that talent go to waste?" lol like a CB is a waste :rolleyes:

Yeah, he Bears announced that they will be playing Hester at WR this year. Remember, he did play WR, RB, CB, and KR/PR at Miami.

And Favre did say that he never said that he wanted to be traded. But he did he say he will skip mini camp.

[Lost.Boy]

Bush was only effective because they have duece to do the td rushes bush was like a short pass only and PR notin else. Reggie couldnt be a bus and run through a line.

[Worker]

Bush was only effective because they have duece to do the td rushes bush was like a short pass only and PR notin else. Reggie couldnt be a bus and run through a line.You could turn that around and say the same thing about Duece or any other player on the offense.

The offense was strong as a unit because every person in the unit is good, Duece, Bush , Brees, the receivers..... Iv already addressed this issue though, what more do you want from Bush? he scored almost in almost every imaginable way you can. :dry:

[The Cheat]

You could turn that around and say the same thing about Duece or any other player on the offense.

The offense was strong as a unit because every person in the unit is good, Duece, Bush , Brees, the receivers..... Iv already addressed this issue though, what more do you want from Bush? he scored almost in almost every imaginable way you can. :dry:

He's a over-hyped player.

But then again...you are from that area...so this issue won't be solved as seeing you are a Saints fan.

Next issue please!

[Lost.Boy]

Most underated people in the NFL ^_^

[Worker]

He's a over-hyped player.

But then again...you are from that area...so this issue won't be solved as seeing you are a Saints fan.

Next issue please!
I agreed is he overrated because of the hype, long ago actually.

I just dont agree that his role in the offense and/or his performance last year was overrated. :)

[The Cheat]

I agreed is he overrated because of the hype, long ago actually.

I just dont agree that his role in the offense and/or his performance last year was overrated. :)

1. Yes agree on point one.

2. We don't agree on point number two...and never will.


Time for Around the Horn and PTI...back tomorrow.

[Lost.Boy]

1. Bush is overated.

2. some people say he did good others didnt.

next.

[TTitan44]

Iv already addressed this issue though, what more do you want from Bush? he scored almost in almost every imaginable way you can. :dry:

Blocked punt pick up by the Long Snapper, he runs down field about 50 yards with the ball, but Bush hits him and makes him fumble. Bush picks it up and runs it in.

Did Bush do that? I think not.

Most underated people in the NFL ^_^

1. Steve McNair
2. Billy Volek
3. Alex Smith
4. Todd Heap
5. Donald Driver

[Worker]

1. Bush is overated.

2. some people say he did good others didnt.

Are you talking about president Bush? thats how rediculous that statement is. :rolleyes:


and Titan , you are good at naming a single situation, and trying to apply it to the bigger picture. Whats one play?(especially a inaccurate play) Just like when you "called out" cheat with that receiver question. :dry:


As I said the first time this came up, I agree hes overrated, so why keep reitterating the same point.

[The Cheat]

1. Steve McNair
2. Billy Volek
3. Alex Smith
4. Todd Heap
5. Donald Driver

1. Bull crap. McNair is a star and gets lots of respect.

2. He's not good....

3. Meh...Jury is still out on him...being young and all.

4. I'll give you that...

5. Not so sure....he's ok...but not great....hmmm.....i'll have to think about that.

[Lost.Boy]

I agree with cheat except on the last one

[KickAssPlaya]

Troy Brown is definately underrated. ;)

~KAP

[Blexican]

Bush isnt overrated, hes just one god dam good player, and everyone doesnt like him for that reason.

[A J]

I agree, anyone who says that Reggie Bush didn't do a good job in New Orleans must not have any idea what he accomplished there.

Also, you named a couple good ones there, Titan. I agree Alex Smith is an underrated player, but not one of the most underrated players, same goes for Donald Driver. I would have to agree with Cheat though, on McNair and Volek. I also think TJ Houshmanzadeh is a very underrated player and arguably one of the top or at least top 3 underrated wide receivers.

[The Cheat]

Troy Brown is definately underrated. ;)

~KAP

And old. ;)

No i'll give you that. He's good....and can play both sides of the ball.
I agree, anyone who says that Reggie Bush didn't do a good job in New Orleans must not have any idea what he accomplished there.

Also, you named a couple good ones there, Titan. I agree Alex Smith is an underrated player, but not one of the most underrated players, same goes for Donald Driver. I would have to agree with Cheat though, on McNair and Volek. I also think TJ Houshmanzadeh is a very underrated player and arguably one of the top or at least top 3 underrated wide receivers.


Bush did exactly what the NFL wanted him to do. :dry::dry::dry:

TJ is a good player...but too well known to be underated.

Underrated people are good players that no one knows about...

[KBHoleN1]

Underrated people are good players that no one knows about...
Or that people don't respect. Doesn't necessarily imply anonymity, just a lack of recognition for one's accomplishments.

[The Cheat]

Or that people don't respect. Doesn't necessarily imply anonymity, just a lack of recognition for one's accomplishments.

True.

That also plays a key factor.

Last year was my first time doing FF...and got killed. Next year I winn do better....I'm like a GM...I have learned from my mistakes...

[KBHoleN1]

Or you could be the next Matt Millen ;)

[The Cheat]

Or you could be the next Matt Millen ;)

God I hope not.....

Then again my brother got LT last year..and the Bears Defense.

That about sumed up the season..

[A J]

Bush did exactly what the NFL wanted him to do. :dry::dry::dry:

TJ is a good player...but too well known to be underated.

Underrated people are good players that no one knows about...
My statement about Bush was in reply to lost.boy when he said that Bush was overrated.

Also, I know what an underrated player is, and I do think that TJ is an underrated player. I do not think enough people know about him or respect him like they should.

[Zander]

& reading cheat's post just now... That's bullshit. Whether or not people know who you are doesn't define whether or not you're over or underrated, it's what they say & think about you that defines it.
Pretty much everyone knows who alex smith is, but that's because he's a starting quarterback, not because he's a star. His team doesn't get shit for attention, because it doesn't get shit done, & subsequently smith isn't given much praise. Alex Smith is the definition of underrated.

[theburning]

So who's super excited other than me?!?!?!

[Unforgottner]

About?

[KBHoleN1]

About?
Umm ... have you checked the title of the thread lately? Unless otherwise stated, I'd guess that all excitement is directed toward the NFL!

[Unforgottner]

:p thought she meant a specific event in the NFL.

[Sluff]

So who's super excited other than me?!?!?!

me! :)

[Lost.Boy]

yup cant wait.

[KickAssPlaya]

http://sport.monstersandcritics.com/nfl/article_1307441.php/Line_of_Scrimmage_Pats_Colts_and_Bolts_-_2007s_Elite_Trio

Read it and weep b******! :bigsmile:

Patriots ftw!

And no I didn't need this dumb article to tell me that.. just had to have some re-enforcement. ;)

~KAP

[endless]

Lets just remember who has won the last three matches...

Let me explain

Colts > Pats

End > Kap

And now for the icing on the cake..

END FTW!!!!

Pwned....

[KickAssPlaya]

Are you crazy?

You just wait Pats > Colts.

You may be > me but who isn't? :wink2:

~KAP

[Memory]

Jets win it all

[KickAssPlaya]

And I thought endless was dumb.. atleast his team will make the playoffs. :rolleyes:

~KAP

[EleMENTAL]

Chargers > Pats > Colts

[Memory]

Chargers > Pats > Colts

:rolleyes: Jets>Chargers>Pats>Colts

Stop being a noob :p

[EleMENTAL]

:rolleyes: Jets>Chargers>Pats>Colts

Stop being a noob :p

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HAHAHAHAHAAHHA!!

jets...haha...

*tear*