For NFL Fans

[The Butcher]

It will happen.

Na, jets have more weapons. Mainly Thomas Jones. Miami's D won't have an answer for him.

[Blexican]

Na, jets have more weapons. Mainly Leon Washington. Miami's D won't have an answer for him.

fixed.

[KickAssPlaya]

They were right there with them the first time and the way the Jets are playing lately it is quite possible. I'd love to see Miami win just because it would mean the Patriots wouldn't make the playoffs with an 11-5 record and the Chargers could make it at 8-8 and the Cardinals team they just beat 47-7 will also make it. Hilarious really.

yea real funny. :dry:

[pils]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
edit:
BLOCKED!!!!!!!!
HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Anti]

I cannot even describe the amount of pure hatred for the Chicago Bears that is pulsing through my veins right now. I honestly just screamed into my pillow for about 5 minutes straight. Unbelievable.

[pils]

Da Bears.

[Catra]

Dratted Packers.

[The Anti]

Da Bears.

Bleh. More like


Da Bears-and-their-luck-and-random-goodness-and-making-refs-make-calls-on-their-behalf-even-though-it's-obvious-it's-the-wrong-call.

:dry::dry::dry:

[Elven Blood]

I cannot even describe the amount of pure hatred for the Chicago Bears that is pulsing through my veins right now. I honestly just screamed into my pillow for about 5 minutes straight. Unbelievable.
do you not live in Chicago?


Personally, i was not rooting for anyone tonight, but i just enjoyed that whole game. And the blocked filedgoal was amazing.

[The Anti]

do you not live in Chicago?


Personally, i was not rooting for anyone tonight, but i just enjoyed that whole game. And the blocked filedgoal was amazing.

Yeah I live in Chicago. But I absolutely whole-heartedly hate the Bears and Cubs.

Sox, Bulls, and Blackhawks are awesome though. And I'm a Packers fan.

[Zander]

A... a chicago native that likes the packers?
:mellow:

[The Anti]

A... a chicago native that likes the packers?
:mellow:

Errr..yeah. There's quite a few that I know.

[Elven Blood]

This is just unheard of.
You're wierd!
/shun

[The Anti]

I'm unique!!


:(

[Zander]

Errr..yeah. There's quite a few that I know.
That's like a New Yorker rooting the Red Sox, dude.

[pils]

I'm a chump!!


:(

/correction made
Oh man... Only caught the last quarter/OT, but man.... That was awesome. Bears would probably be in Detroit's position right now, if it wasn't for Forte and their special teams/ Defense... But thank god they do have those... :p

Seriously... If the Bears could find a GOOD franchise QB, and/or maybe some WRs that could make some plays, they'd have themselves some new rings... ;)

[Elven Blood]

Thats a Clevelander rooting for he Steelers, bro.

-Though this is not unheard of, due to the utter lacking of skill the Browns have.

[_Thunder_]

Thats a Clevelander rooting for he Steelers, bro.

-Though this is not unheard of, due to the utter lacking of skill the Browns have.

Browns have to be the biggest disappointment this year.. sorry to say but it's true.

And the biggest turn around have to be the dolphins or falcons?
Discuss.

[Elven Blood]

I am going Falcons.
They got one of the best young QB's in the league, i dont fell Pennington will do this much more in his career, Ryan will only continu to get better.
The Falcons have also put behind Michael Vick, the biggest achievement by far. NO other team had to overcome anything like this.
The also have Turner, who shed off the shadow of LT, and out played him all season.
Ya, defently the falcons.....



:crybaby:the bronws:crybaby:

[Blexican]

:crybaby:the bronws:crybaby:


poor poor Bronws. :(

[The Butcher]

And the biggest turn around have to be the dolphins or falcons?
Discuss.
I am going Falcons.
They got one of the best young QB's in the league, i dont fell Pennington will do this much more in his career, Ryan will only continu to get better.
The Falcons have also put behind Michael Vick, the biggest achievement by far. NO other team had to overcome anything like this.
The also have Turner, who shed off the shadow of LT, and out played him all season.
Ya, defently the falcons.....




Umm..

How can you not say the dolphins? 1-15 to a possible playoff birth? To being tied with last year's 16-0 Patriots in the Division?

And i don't think the browns are the biggest disappointment, I'd say the pack.

[pils]

Umm..

How can you not say the dolphins? 1-15 to a possible playoff birth? To being tied with last year's 16-0 Patriots in the Division?

And i don't think the browns are the biggest disappointment, I'd say the pack.

Not quite last year's Patriots.... There is one key difference that comes to mind.... :rolleyes:

[The Butcher]

Not quite last year's Patriots.... There is one key difference that comes to mind.... :rolleyes:

Doesn't matter,

Last year that Pats were 16-0 and the Dolphins were 1-15.

The very next year, they are tied for first in the division. That's amazing, and by far a greater achievement then the Falcons, IMO.

[*Sanosuke*]

Falcolns always sucked except that superbowl year for them. Panthers > Falcons.com

At anyrate. DIE SAINTS DIE DIE DIE! GIVE MAI FIRST ROUND BYE pl0x!

[I'malive24/7]

Not quite last year's Patriots.... There is one key difference that comes to mind.... :rolleyes:

*many key differences.

But I would still give it to the dolphins if i didn't think last year was a fluke.

Overall, their personnel haven't changed much. The got pennington, but they still had Ronni Brown, Porter, etc. last year, which is why I think they were fluking it up last year, and are playing to their full potential this year.

That said, I have to give it to the Falcons for reasons already stated. No team has had to overcome anything like the Michael Vick fiasco, and the Falcons made some damn good choices (Ryan, Turner), changing their overall team more than the Dolphins did.

[gryph89]

Y'know, Pennington was sucking it up last year for the JEts, goes to the DOlphins and starts using the weapons they had the right way. Gotta give it to them. They're looking pretty damn good this season.

I can't take much more football honestly, this is twice in two days both the teams I liked ended up going into an Overtime nailbiter. That blocked FG was insane.

Asaide from that, congrats to whoever had Rodgers in your Fantasy, he was putting in work.

[Elven Blood]

Overall, their personnel haven't changed much. The got pennington, but they still had Ronni Brown, Porter, etc. last year, which is why I think they were fluking it up last year, and are playing to their full potential this year.


Yeah, why i dont think its the dolphins.

They had everyone (except Pennington) just about last year.
They have changed some stuff on hte offense, but not to where they are amzing. The Falcons are a dominate team on offense, and i dont see the Dolphins as this. I think the 1-15 was a fluke, and i dont think there are as good of a team as there record shows this year.
I feel they are a 6-10 or 7-9, that is plagued by random spurts of good and bad luck.;)

[gryph89]

It's all consistancy. Which the Dolphins basically have around the league.

Look at from this point of the View. The Cardinals were what? 7-3 first 10 weeks of the season? But 4 of those wins came from their own division, whose records mind you are below the .300 rating. Then they ran into NFC teams around other leagues and they're barely holding onto some playoff hope. (They'll get it though...unless a late sleeper decides to come out. I didn't really pay attention to their division, just know they're leading the playoff picture for it right now)

While the Dolphins pretty much, are playing alot more variety with their games. Regardless, They're playing good football.

[bdog1321]

Thats a Clevelander rooting for he Steelers, bro.

-Though this is not unheard of, due to the utter lacking of skill the Browns have.

New York's a strange place, to whoever said the Sox bit, there are a LOT of Sox fans here. And there's a fellow texan in my school who's a steelers fan! Like WTF?!

*many key differences.

But I would still give it to the dolphins if i didn't think last year was a fluke.

Overall, their personnel haven't changed much. The got pennington, but they still had Ronni Brown, Porter, etc. last year, which is why I think they were fluking it up last year, and are playing to their full potential this year.

That said, I have to give it to the Falcons for reasons already stated. No team has had to overcome anything like the Michael Vick fiasco, and the Falcons made some damn good choices (Ryan, Turner), changing their overall team more than the Dolphins did.
Yeah...They got how many coaches and players from the Cowboys and other teams? Their star tight end was the Cowboys' back up from last year. They did lose Zach Thomas though....

[Lost.Boy]

Not the eagles they aren't making it to the playoffs =(. stupid bears.

[KickAssPlaya]

That sucks.

What would suck even more is if my patriots go 11-5 and don't make the playoffs while .500 teams make it. :dry:

[Lost.Boy]

NOT POOR kap if they partriots don't make it :o =( poor soul waisted.

The cardinals made it and their like 8-7 >.>

[Elven Blood]

if the chargers win, they'll be 8-8 and make the playoffs.
Though i hope this is the case, they are my 2nd favorite team.

[Gypsy]

That sucks.

What would suck even more is if my patriots go 11-5 and don't make the playoffs while .500 teams make it. :dry:

No, no, no you have it all wrong. I just mentioned how awesome that would be. I mean seriously, you have a team beat a team 47-7 and the records on top of that and it's pretty ridiculous that the better team isn't making the playoffs.

Oh and elven, the Chargers need to make it just to screw the Broncos and make history.

[Lost.Boy]

which is also fun

[bdog1321]

So, predictions for this week? I'm keeping my mouth shut after last week. :P

[Coffin Fedder]

So, predictions for this week? I'm keeping my mouth shut after last week. :P

Please oh Please make some predictions. I thought it was pretty hillarious how you were so confident in your teams!

[KickAssPlaya]

Patriots, jets and jags. All winners. Securing the patriots playoffs spot. :cool:

[The Butcher]

I'd like to point out that I won my little bet with The Cheat, the 0-16 lions came through. See my sig for details..

Cheat, i expect you to "pay up" ASAP ;)

[BaxVarlet]

I'd like to point out that I won my little bet with The Cheat, the 0-16 lions came through. See my sig for details..

Cheat, i expect you to "pay up" ASAP ;)

Who cares?

THE RAIDERS WON!

[bdog1321]

Lose Cowboys, lose.

[Blexican]

Lose Cowboys, lose.

Die bdog Die.

[bdog1321]

Die bdog Die.

I stand by what I said. After last week, I just don't think they deserve it anymore. Too many missed chances. Of course, neither do the Eagles....

[The Butcher]

I stand by what I said. After last week, I just don't think they deserve it anymore. Too many missed chances. Of course, neither do the Eagles....

Right now the Eagles are sure playing like they deserve it, clown.

[Hugh Junit]

Right now the Eagles are sure playing like they deserve it, clown.

Yep, and the Cowboys are choking for the third year straight. This is by far worse than the playoff losses of the last 2 years, besides the obvious fact that Dallas, after all the hype, isn't even going to make the playoffs this year.
Because although Romo made critical mistakes at the end of those games, Dallas was at least in them. This isn't even close. It's a total ass-kicking.
41-3 in the 3rd quarter?! Wow.

[Lost.Boy]

Eagles are murdering them.
Cowboys should have an I in their name because they aren't a team.

OMG THE Rams were so close to another win grrr.

The crowd started booing so you know they said TO's name :P.

[_Thunder_]

F%@king cowboys..

[The Butcher]

Is there a slaugher rule in pro football...?

;)

F%@king cowboys..

Halo after the "game"? I'll be on.

[Gypsy]

As much as I hate the Eagles normally it is beautiful to watch the Cowboys get destroyed like this.

Also...

Patriots fan weeks 1-16: The Jets are bums, they won't win.
Patriots fan week 17: The Jets have a quality football team, they should beat the Dolphins.

The Jets Dolphins game is rather good despite the play of Favre.

[_Thunder_]

Is there a slaugher rule in pro football...?

;)



Halo after the "game"? I'll be on.

Shit, ill start playing now, cowboy game is over to me.

[Lost.Boy]

Thunder is a rams fan atm :P.

[_Thunder_]

Thunder is a rams fan atm :P.

Dam straight! Draft here we come! :D

[The Butcher]

Well... wow

I am just beyond happy right now. Coming into this game, I just wanted Philly to beat Dallas and send them home.

But the planets aligned and it was a "in and win" scenario. And Philly brought it.

@KB, who i really respect as a fan and who knows what he's talking about and loves his team, all i have to say is this,

"I told you so".

Seeing TO sitting on the bench with his pouty face on, it's like Christmas Day again. We all know if the scores were reversed that he'd be messing with the fans, doing "the bird" in the end zone, etc etc...

But.... yeah.

Congrats to my beloved Philadelphia Eagles, to Minnesota we go.

Have a nice trip home, Dallas.

[Greed]

Proud of my Niners for finishing strong.

[Hugh Junit]

As much as I like Favre, I think it's awesome that the Dolphins came back from a 1-15 season a year ago to go 11-5 and win the AFC East.
If Sporano doesn't win coach of the year, something is seriously wrong. He's done everything right, from the Wildcat offense to his decision to go for it on 4th and inches 10 minutes ago.
Pennington's comeback, Joey Porter and the defense playing like animals lately. I don't know how far they'll go in the playoffs, but it's a great story and an incredible accomplishment.

[Shamus]

Also...

Patriots fan weeks 1-16: The Jets are bums, they won't win.
Patriots fan week 17: The Jets have a quality football team, they should beat the Dolphins.

The Jets Dolphins game is rather good despite the play of Favre.Do you want to cry with me? :(

[KickAssPlaya]

Do you want to cry with me? :(

I do!

Well now I shall leave ths thread until spring training. :( or unti I decide to post here again.

[Lost.Boy]

I'm looking forward to the Denver vs Chargers game.

Patriots poor patriots no playoffs for them cassel played great though.

You can cry kap its okay.

[Gypsy]

He threw like 8 passes today lol.

Anyway, the Chargers are making my night so far...

[_Darkness_]

CHARGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!caps

[bdog1321]

Well the cowboys lost, but there's always next year, right?
....Right? Maybe not for Wade Phillips. Or Jason Garrett. IMO, Wade would make a good defensive coordinator. Move him there, and hire a real head coach who demands RESPECT from his players. Terrell bitching? Tell him to suck it up! All Wade does is sit there and stutter. "Oh he's a nice guy." We don't need a nice guy, we need a winner. Was Jimmy Johnson a nice guy? No. He got uncontrollable at times, and I remember him cutting a backup runningback because he fumbled twice and committed a personal foul at the end of a season-closer that the cowboys WON by two touchdowns. No, Jimmy was winner. Jerry Jones has had his run. Time to sell the team to someone who's interested in winning. All of the talent is there. They are the most talented team in football [B]on paper.[B] Now they just need the coaches to bring it out and [I]make them a team.[I] Then, they will win at least one super bowl and possibly have another dynasty. /end rant.
P.S. This wasn't Romo's fault.

[_Thunder_]

P.S. This wasn't Romo's fault.

It was all good up to this point..

Of course it wasn't his fault.. you automatically assume that people will blame him? It was the whole teams fault, it's like they forgot how to play football. ALTHOUGH... Romo did not help with his fumbles and interceptions. It was a team effort and the team failed.

[EleMENTAL]

:cool:

You all know where I stand

[Blexican]

With the elementals? I dunno. Where do you?

[KBHoleN1]

He's a Super Charger superfan.

/wrists over the Cowboys

...

Luckily the doctors got to me before I bled out, that way I get to see the Panthers. They have never made the playoffs and not gone to at least the NFC championship game. Very cool.

[EleMENTAL]

With the elementals? I dunno. Where do you?

Chargers all the way

[Blexican]

I love the chargers. I got a hat, and a hoody. Maybe some pics later =P

[EleMENTAL]

I love the chargers. I got a hat, and a hoody. Maybe some pics later =P

Got me a Charger Hoody, Authentic NFL Tomlinson Powder Blue Jersey, and a signed football from:

Drew Brees, Tim Dwight, Doug Flutie, Schoettenheimer, Scifers, Tomlinson and Gates.

[Coffin Fedder]

Falcons Won I'm happy. LETS GO PHILLY!

[Unforgottner]

Hahhahahhahaha suck it cowboys!

[Blexican]

Hahhahahhahaha suck it cowboys!

HAHAHAHAHAH you got shut out.


and nice ele. One of these days im gonna get my Ware jersey signed.

[Unforgottner]

Yes, in a game with winds of 60+, against the Patriots.
The most talented team in football(!!) gave up 44 points. lawl. Jerry Jones can suck my ass.

[Blexican]

Once again. They DO have the most talent. You can have the most talent and lose. By not acting like a team, and not having chemistry. You need to really take a breathe before you start dissing on things, that was dumb.

[Hugh Junit]

Of course it wasn't his fault.. you automatically assume that people will blame him?

Um, yeah?
Of course people are going to blame Romo. Not completely, but likely more than any other single player. He's the quarterback, and he played horribly.
So did the whole team, on both sides of the ball, but Romo is still stinging from the last-play interception in the playoffs last year, and the holding disaster the year before that.
His season was on the line today. As the quarterback, he needed to step up and play well. He did the exact opposite. He was holding the ball too long, not making the right reads, not throwing accurately and not protecting the football.
QBs often take the majority of the credit as well as the bulk of the blame. That's just how it works, and, more often than not, in my opinion, for good reason. This definitely qualifies as one of those situations, to me.
Romo was 21/39 for 183 yards, no TDs and 3 turnovers. With a performance like that, in a game this big, with the weapons he has at his disposal, I think Romo deserves to take a large portion of the blame.

[Blexican]

Hes a choke artist. It was partly romo's fault. yes.

[Unforgottner]

You can have the most talent and lose. By not acting like a team, and not having chemistry.

Welcome to Dallas.

[Blexican]

Welcome to Dallas.

Im not in dallas. And neither is the stadium.(new)

[Hatchet Klown]

Jerry Jones has already stated that Wade Phillips will be back for 2009 (don't ask me why).

All I have to say is, how bout them birds? Game was amazing, glad I actually made time to be there tonight, being only the second game this season I've gotten to (Steelers game being the first).

Only team in the NFC that I have any doubts the birds can beat is Carolina, so hopefully things can line up to avoid that problem. However, anything can happen on any given sunday.

[The Butcher]

Of course it wasn't his fault.. you automatically assume that people will blame him? It was the whole teams fault, it's like they forgot how to play football. ALTHOUGH... Romo did not help with his fumbles and interceptions. It was a team effort and the team failed.

http://students.ou.edu/G/David.M.Gehris-1/brian%20dawkins.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn199/phillyfan4life05/Eagles-1.jpg

It irks me that you aren't giving the Eagles defense any credit. They were ALL OVER Dallas. It wasn't just the fact that Dallas shit the bed, it was the fact that Philly was playing to their potential. Which is all they need to do.

Like I said, i never saw the playoffs coming, still digesting that fact. I have no idea how far they will go, but they made me proud yesterday.

Fly Eagles Fly.

[Zander]

Once again. They DO have the most talent. You can have the most talent and lose. By not acting like a team, and not having chemistry. You need to really take a breathe before you start dissing on things, that was dumb.
Part of being talented is using your abilities, and them abilities weren't useded.

WTG brandon marshall stumbling wide open in the end-zone?

[The Butcher]

Agreed with Z,

You are really scrapping the excuses barrel Blexy..

[I'malive24/7]

I can't believe the Pats, at 11-5, are not in the playoffs, when the Chargers at 8-8 are. Pats are every bit as talented (since we seem to like bitching about talent here) as any other team in the NFL...There's no way 11-5 isn't playoff worthy.

[The Butcher]

I can't believe the Pats, at 11-5, are not in the playoffs, when the Chargers at 8-8 are. Pats are every bit as talented (since we seem to like bitching about talent here) as any other team in the NFL...There's no way 11-5 isn't playoff worthy.

Quite an odd playoff scenario all around the league this year for sure.

How about the Raiders beating Tampa Bay in Tampa to let the Eagles waltz into the playoffs?

And the tie actually helped..

[bdog1321]

Sell the team Jerry....Through all of this, I still have faith in Romo. The team does not need a better QB, or any other player. They need a leader. I think as Romo really starts to think about this, or if he doesn't that someone tells him that he needs to get serious. Did you guys ever watch Troy Aikman's face when he was playing? He was dead serious all the time, even when he was loopy as a smashed teenager after one of his concussions. Romo, I like the guy, but he's not serious, ever. When you hear him talk he's saying things like "I think we can do it," and "we'll go out there and try our best." No, what he should be saying is "We'll do it." and "We're going to beat them." You either do it, or you don't. As Yoda said, there is no try. If Romo buckles down and becomes the leader (they have a few guys that would be good leaders, but the QB is much more influential. Jason Witten, DeMarcus Ware?) then I think it will affect the entire team positively, and maybe get them playing like the potential dynasty team that they are. /end rant2

[The Butcher]

bla bla bla bla

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rBA41f7A0c

[bdog1321]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rBA41f7A0c

Just no. I was actually trying to say something. Stop being an asshole whenever I make a post.

[The Butcher]

Just no. I was actually trying to say something. Stop being an asshole whenever I make a post.

:crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:

Can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, bdog. I'm taking it VERY easy on you.

[bdog1321]

:crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:

Can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, bdog. I'm taking it VERY easy on you.

I don't want to get into another flame-fest with you, just asking that you don't make a joke of my every sentence.

[endless]

I can't believe the Pats, at 11-5, are not in the playoffs, when the Chargers at 8-8 are. Pats are every bit as talented (since we seem to like bitching about talent here) as any other team in the NFL...There's no way 11-5 isn't playoff worthy.

http://members.arstechnica.com/x/ratstomper/cartman_tears.gif

You're tears are delicious.

[Elven Blood]

Damn, I am now so pissed i had a date last night.
I missed some epic games. I just wish i had seen the CHARGERS light up denver and Cutler's smart ass.
Oh, and....
HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS?
teh heh

I don't want to get into another flame-fest with you, just asking that you don't make a joke of my every sentence.

he didnt flame your first rank, which he could have rather easily.
stop being so dfenseive on an INTERNET forum. or just leave and suck your thump in your mommy's lap some more. we're all sick of your bulshit.
edit:/superfan. GO COWBOYS.
Still. In Romo I trust.
this is posted on December 22, in his tony homo thread.
Lose Cowboys, lose.
and then he posts this.
This is the kinda of bullshit everyone hates from you, stop constidicting yourself, stop being a dumbass. or just leave.
edit2:

And i don't think the browns are the biggest disappointment, I'd say the pack.
still think so Butch?:p
Browns set the nfl record this week for most consecutive courters w/o a TD.
the magic number was 22, now it is 24.
They went the last friggen 6 games of the season without an offensive Touchdown.:(
I am sure the browns would lose to the lions right now.

[The Butcher]

I don't want to get into another flame-fest with you, just asking that you don't make a joke of my every sentence.

Shut up, bdog.

I don't make a joke about every one of your posts, although a strong case could be made against each of them. Our choosen football teams are arch-rivals.. and my team beat your team in a massive way. All I'm doing is throwing some friendly jabs your way.

In all honesty, I don't respect you as either a poster, or a football fan. 75% of the "facts" you throw out in this forum are wrong, and you need to be corrected constantly. KB and Blex are cowboys fans that actually bring something to the table. I hate their teams, but not their "fandom". By all rights I could write a 10 page essay on how badly Philly beat Dallas yesterday, but I didn't, I posted a funny little youtube song someone wrote.

So, in conclusion, "get over it".


still think so Butch?:p
Browns set the nfl record this week for most consecutive courters w/o a TD.
the magic number was 22, now it is 24.
They went the last friggen 6 games of the season without an offensive Touchdown.:(
I am sure the browns would lose to the lions right now.

Hmm....

It's hard to ignore the 0-16 lions now... lol.

I agree the browns wasted away alot of potential, but the packers are in their first year without Favre, and they started with a great record, and then missed the playoffs all together.

I think as far as disappointment, packers are still at the top.

[Elven Blood]

If i didnt live in ohio (with the browns and Bengals)
I just might have to agree with you.

[The Butcher]

If i didnt live in ohio (with the browns and Bengals)
I just might have to agree with you.

/pats elven's back

[bdog1321]

Shut up, bdog.

I don't make a joke about every one of your posts, although a strong case could be made against each of them. Our choosen football teams are arch-rivals.. and my team beat your team in a massive way. All I'm doing is throwing some friendly jabs your way.

In all honesty, I don't respect you as either a poster, or a football fan. 75% of the "facts" you throw out in this forum are wrong, and you need to be corrected constantly. KB and Blex are cowboys fans that actually bring something to the table. I hate their teams, but not their "fandom". By all rights I could write a 10 page essay on how badly Philly beat Dallas yesterday, but I didn't, I posted a funny little youtube song someone wrote.

So, in conclusion, "get over it".



Hmm....

It's hard to ignore the 0-16 lions now... lol.

I agree the browns wasted away alot of potential, but the packers are in their first year without Favre, and they started with a great record, and then missed the playoffs all together.

I think as far as disappointment, packers are still at the top.

If I knew you were trying to do anything other than undermine what I had posted a few minutes previous I wouldn't have said that....Whatever. I know your team just rolled mine, and all I perceived your bla bla bla + video post was gloating. Sorry.

[Elven Blood]

it was gloating, but in a funny kinda way.
you just took it like a 5 year old.

[Lost.Boy]

Biggest upset playoff wise has to be the cowboys/patriots/bucks. I mean going as far as they did and losing mostly cowboys/bucks. The patriots couldn't do much but hopefully lions will get a better coach fired theirs and the browns had their manager fired correct me if i'm wrong on that. At least they get decent draft spots.

don't blame butcher he is from philly its natural.

[The Cheat]

I'd like to point out that I won my little bet with The Cheat, the 0-16 lions came through. See my sig for details..

Cheat, i expect you to "pay up" ASAP ;)

Make me betch. ;)
Well the cowboys lost, but there's always next year, right?
....Right? Maybe not for Wade Phillips. Or Jason Garrett. IMO, Wade would make a good defensive coordinator. Move him there, and hire a real head coach who demands RESPECT from his players. Terrell bitching? Tell him to suck it up! All Wade does is sit there and stutter. "Oh he's a nice guy." We don't need a nice guy, we need a winner. Was Jimmy Johnson a nice guy? No. He got uncontrollable at times, and I remember him cutting a backup runningback because he fumbled twice and committed a personal foul at the end of a season-closer that the cowboys WON by two touchdowns. No, Jimmy was winner. Jerry Jones has had his run. Time to sell the team to someone who's interested in winning. All of the talent is there. They are the most talented team in football on paper.[B] Now they just need the coaches to bring it out and [I]make them a team.[I] Then, they will win at least one super bowl and possibly have another dynasty. /end rant.
P.S. This wasn't Romo's fault.

I have seen many superfans in my life....but you take the cake.

You are worthless.
I love the chargers. I got a hat, and a [B]Woody. Maybe some pics later =P

:eek::eek::eek:

No pictures!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rBA41f7A0c

I love his songs....Always does good work.
it was gloating, but in a funny kinda way.
you just took it like a 5 year old.

True. When you win, you gloat. Fact of life. Butch did nothing wrong.


Going to be some good playoff games....

Watch out for the wildcards...

[The Butcher]

Make me betch. ;)


I won't make you, I expect you to hold true to the bet.

I would. :dry:

EDIT: The bet clearly stated "RIGHT not "write"

Nice try!!!

[The Cheat]

I won't make you, I expect you to hold true to the bet.

I would. :dry:

Dude....

What is my name again?

Come on now....

I'll honor it....this time.

But only cuz i luv you. ;)

[The Butcher]

Dude....

What is my name again?

Come on now....


chicka chicka chicka slim shady?

[Lost.Boy]

: O.

[Greed]

Chargers all the way

You better hope they play well and Rivers doesn't slip into an interception streak because Peyton and the Colts are looking pretty red hot.

[Lost.Boy]

both on winning streaks chargers were running like crazy yesterday though denver couldn't stop them from running every play all three backs.

[The Cheat]

Someone post the match ups please.

[The Butcher]

Someone post the match ups please.

AFC Wild Card Games

Colts vs Chargers - Sat Jan 3, 8PM NBC

Ravens vs Dolphins - Sun Jan 4, 1PM CBS

NFC Wild Card Games

Falcons vs Cardinals - Sat Jan 3, 4:30PM NBC

Eagles vs Vikings - Sun Jan 4, 4:30PM FOX

My predictions in bold.

[Lost.Boy]

Wild Card
NFC:

Vikings Vs Eagles

Falcons vs Cardinals

AFC:
Colts vs Chargers

Ravens vs Dolphins

Forget butchers post =).

[The Cheat]

I need locations before i can pick.

[The Butcher]

Wild Card

Forget butchers post =).

U r 2 slo!

I know Philly is traveling to Minnesota. Not positive of the other games.

[Shamus]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3711069

[Lost.Boy]

Ha I knew that too =(.

nvm.

[The Butcher]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3711069

That's pertty.

[Hatchet Klown]

U r 2 slo!

I know Philly is traveling to Minnesota. Not positive of the other games.

The wildcard teams always travel to the division champions for the first round.

[The Butcher]

Tomatoes are fruits.

[Blexican]

Part of being talented is using your abilities, and them abilities weren't useded.

WTG brandon marshall stumbling wide open in the end-zone?

They are still the most talented... Whether they showed it that day or not.

[Hatchet Klown]

Vikings aren't a wild card team, they're the NFC North Champions... Atlanta and Eagles are the NFC wildcards.

Epic fail. ;)

[The Butcher]

Vikings aren't a wild card team, they're the NFC North Champions... Atlanta and Eagles are the NFC wildcards.

Epic fail. ;)

Ah yup, that's right, forgot about that... and I even watched that game :rolleyes:

However,

Epic fail to you for not quoting me.

Pics or it didn't happen!! :*ph34r2:

[Elven Blood]

Baltimore Ravens (11-5) at Miami Dolphins (11-5)

Indianapolis Colts (12-4) at San Diego Chargers (8-8)

Philadelphia Eagles (9-6-1) at Minnesota Vikings (10-6)

Atlanta Falcons (11-5) at Arizona Cardinals (9-7)

my picks

[The Butcher]

Baltimore Ravens (11-5) at Miami Dolphins (11-5)

Indianapolis Colts (12-4) at San Diego Chargers (8-8)

Philadelphia Eagles (9-6-1) at Minnesota Vikings (10-6)

Atlanta Falcons (11-5) at Arizona Cardinals (9-7)

my picks

Chargers over the colts... :confused:

Dunno about that one... I like the others picks though ;)

[Hatchet Klown]

Ah yup, that's right, forgot about that... and I even watched that game :rolleyes:

However,

Epic fail to you for not quoting me.

Pics or it didn't happen!! :*ph34r2:

Bah!

/facepalm.

[_Thunder_]

Baltimore Ravens (11-5) at Miami Dolphins (11-5)

Indianapolis Colts (12-4) at San Diego Chargers (8-8)

Philadelphia Eagles (9-6-1) at Minnesota Vikings (10-6)

Atlanta Falcons (11-5) at Arizona Cardinals (9-7)



My pics. Explanation upon request.

[The Butcher]

Bah!

/facepalm.

:*dance:

[Hatchet Klown]

I'd like to hear your explanation on picking Minnesota. The rest I agree with.

[The Butcher]

I'd like to hear your explanation on picking Minnesota. The rest I agree with.

Same

[_Thunder_]

I'd like to hear your explanation on picking Minnesota. The rest I agree with.

First off.. IMO AP is a better RB, alot more consistent than Westbrook even though I have seen his breakout games. But Im more concerned with Buckhalter + Westbrook combo like they did on the cowboys. Minnesota has a top run defense and a average overall Def. Ya phili's is good too and your probably thinking.. OMG WHAT BOUT WHAT THEY DO TO COWBOYS LOL WUT? Anyone could of made the cowboys do what they did, their offense was terrible. I also like T. Jackson starting at QB now, hes more of a completion guy which makes him less susceptible to turnovers, also he is fast, so he can break out of the pocket and pick up solid yards and spread the defense if he needs to. Remember in week 12? Where they actually went up against a good defense? Ravens crushed them 36 - 7. I don't believe in Phili's recievers either, the only one to me that has any talent or explosiveness at all is DeSaun Jackson... AND HES A ROOKIE. Not to mention they lost L.J. Smith their starting TE. I think Minnesota will come more prepared for this game and take it by a field goal.

Butchers gunna be bi-ast /ignore!!!!

[Hatchet Klown]

I'm calling for Tarvaris Jackson to give up atleast 1 INT and be sacked a handful of times. He's not very mobile, and with Jim Johnson blitzing the hell out of him, he'll take a few hits early on, and then make some bad passes attempting to avoid some hits.

Vikings will try to put alot of pressure on aswell, however the bird's O-Line has been amazing all season, and McNabb has a better ability to avoid the rush and scramble out, while still making half decent decisions (everyone does have a retard moment though).

What it's going to come down to is if Andy keeps his balanced attack and doesn't go back to his 75%+ pass ratio.

-----------
@ Thunder - The birds defense has been making the stops all year apart from a few games. The only place they've lacked is forcing turnovers. The defenses as far as I'm concerned will nullify eachother seeing as they play very similarly. It will end up being about the offense, which is why I made the above post regarding quarterbacks.

Kevin Curtis isn't a good reciever, are you serious? He's an all around threat.

LJ Smith is overrated, most Eagles fans will tell you that. Brent Celek will take his place and do just as well if not better.

[_Thunder_]

Vikings will try to put alot of pressure on aswell, however the bird's O-Line has been amazing all season, and McNabb has a better ability to avoid the rush and scramble out, while still making half decent decisions (everyone does have a retard moment though).

What it's going to come down to is if Andy keeps his balanced attack and doesn't go back to his 75%+ pass ratio.

I agree, Ive seen McNabb even break off of pass rushers to avoid sacks. But when someone does hit him, he tends to fumble ;)

He might have too, if Minn shuts down the running game like they should. It will be an interesting game no dought, I'm just picking the upset.

[Hatchet Klown]

Just one scenario: Throw Westbrook in the slot for another viable reciever giving you three solid threats, and put Buckhalter in the backfield. If Minnesota crowds the box with 7 or 8, just quick audible for a pass out to the flat for a 6+ yard gain, if not, let Buckhalter do his thing and average 4.7 yards per carry again.

Eagles will be mixing it up, Minnesota won't be able to shut down an entire aspect of the game. I do think however it will be tough to run against them, but it will happen and will be successful. If you think the Childress factor will come into play, we know just as much about him as he does the birds, so it's a non-issue.

Eagles 31-24, my prediction.

[The Butcher]

First off.. IMO AP is a better RB, alot more consistent than Westbrook even though I have seen his breakout games. But Im more concerned with Buckhalter + Westbrook combo like they did on the cowboys. Minnesota has a top run defense and a average overall Def. Ya phili's is good too and your probably thinking.. OMG WHAT BOUT WHAT THEY DO TO COWBOYS LOL WUT? Anyone could of made the cowboys do what they did, their offense was terrible. I also like T. Jackson starting at QB now, hes more of a completion guy which makes him less susceptible to turnovers, also he is fast, so he can break out of the pocket and pick up solid yards and spread the defense if he needs to. Remember in week 12? Where they actually went up against a good defense? Ravens crushed them 36 - 7. I don't believe in Phili's recievers either, the only one to me that has any talent or explosiveness at all is DeSaun Jackson... AND HES A ROOKIE. Not to mention they lost L.J. Smith their starting TE. I think Minnesota will come more prepared for this game and take it by a field goal.

Butchers gunna be bi-ast /ignore!!!!

Sounds like you are the one who's ''bi-ast'' ;)

[BaxVarlet]

Jackson is the worst starting QB in the NFL.

[KBHoleN1]

Dan Orlovsky? He drops back for 102 yard passes ...

[Lost.Boy]

Eagles Runningback has more abilities then AP. BW can catch run and if you underestimate him he will kick your butt.
Thats all

Eagles
Dolphins
Cardinals - Lets go Kurt
Colts

[EleMENTAL]

Baltimore Ravens (11-5) at Miami Dolphins (11-5) - They just have more fight in them I think.

Indianapolis Colts (12-4) at San Diego Chargers (8-8) - First off, Chargers do really well against the Colts in the playoffs. Secondly, after watching how LT did and how Philip Rivers is doing, I don't see why anybody would even doubt the Chargers coming into this playoff game. They look like there old selves finally.

Philadelphia Eagles (9-6-1) at Minnesota Vikings (10-6) - Adrian Peterson is going to run right through them. Eagles need to learn to stop the run this week or they won't win this game.

Atlanta Falcons (11-5) at Arizona Cardinals (9-7) - Michael Turner all the way. The Cardinals are not going to be able to stop him. And if they do, Matt Ryan will just throw it down the field.

[Blexican]

The san diego pick feels a bit biased. I think the colts just keep finding ways to win, and the chargers defense wont show up

[Lost.Boy]

why doesn't anyone have faith in the cardinals?

[DarkMethod GL]

I'm not sure about the the Chargers game, you say that the chargers are coming in on fire but the colts also won what 9 games in a row after they started out 3-4? Also Eagles needing to learn to stop the run? They have the 4th best rushing defense in the league.

[EleMENTAL]

I'm not sure about the the Chargers game, you say that the chargers are coming in on fire but the colts also won what 9 games in a row after they started out 3-4? Also Eagles needing to learn to stop the run? They have the 4th best rushing defense in the league.

And yet they are still allowing 100 yards per game. Just because they are 4th, doesnt mean 4th is good.

And yes, the Colts are a good team. But if the Chargers go into the game the same team they were last year and the years before, the Colts won't win, just like they haven't in those other games.

[Hatchet Klown]

100 yards of total rushing isn't that bad, at all. Now letting a single player run all over you for like 100+ a game, that's where it can start to get ugly.

One of the biggest turning points for the Birds this year came from a very unlikely place, Kyle Eckel. Being able to pound out yards when needed; not using a defensive lineman turned fullback in clutch situations, makes all the difference.

[DarkMethod GL]

Yea they only allow 92 per game for the whole team, which is good.

[KBHoleN1]

And yet they are still allowing 100 yards per game. Just because they are 4th, doesnt mean 4th is good.
O ... m ... g. One of the dumbest things I've ever seen written in this thread. And I've read all of bdog's posts. 4th ranked in the entire league isn't good? You sir, are an idiot.

[_Thunder_]

Jackson is the worst starting QB in the NFL.

False, he had a 4 TD game with a 70%+ passing completion percentage.. and pulled the vikes into more victories then loss's. Your move.

[EleMENTAL]

O ... m ... g. One of the dumbest things I've ever seen written in this thread. And I've read all of bdog's posts. 4th ranked in the entire league isn't good? You sir, are an idiot.

OKay...Chargers are 8-8. They are first with in the AFC west with not a very good record...it happens.

[Hatchet Klown]

False, he had a 4 TD game with a 70%+ passing completion percentage.. and pulled the vikes into more victories then loss's. Your move.

One... game. Tony Romo has had a few great games aswell, and we all know how that ended up.

Check.

[_Thunder_]

One... game. Tony Romo has had a few great games aswell, and we all know how that ended up.

Check.

And is Tony Romo the worst starting QB in the league? No again.. TJ is not the worst..

Check.

[The Butcher]

And is Tony Romo the worst starting QB in the league? No again.. TJ is not the worst..

Check.

He's the worst "pressure" QB in the league, I think we can all agree on that.

[I'malive24/7]

100 yards of total rushing isn't that bad, at all. Now letting a single player run all over you for like 100+ a game, that's where it can start to get ugly.

One of the biggest turning points for the Birds this year came from a very unlikely place, Kyle Eckel. Being able to pound out yards when needed; not using a defensive lineman turned fullback in clutch situations, makes all the difference.

It's because Eckel is a former Patriot...Ole Bill taught him well :)

*waits for Cheat's "superfan" call*

[The Butcher]

I am not a fan of Eckel at all.

I miss Duce :(

[pils]

My poor Bears... :(

[Hatchet Klown]

My poor Bears... :(

Thank you Chigaco for blowing your 10 point lead, and thank you Tampa Bay for blowing your 10 point lead in the fourth quarter.

I'm starting to believe the curse of Philly might have started to dissapate.

[Lost.Boy]

win all the championships in a row then another 20 year drought woot! go philly.

Peyton Manning has vsed a bunch of better rated teams and beaten them he can overcome the chargers. Peyton has been more consistant then rivers has been for the season. As for running addai he isn't the worst back.

Last time I checked Chargers were over 25th ranked in pass defense and colts are passing team.

[The Cheat]

It's because Eckel is a former Patriot...Ole Bill taught him well :)

*waits for Cheat's "superfan" call*

Who am I calling a superfan this time?


I'll take Miami, Indy, Falcons and Eagles to win.

[Hatchet Klown]

win all the championships in a row then another 20 year drought woot! go philly.


*cough* 25 *cough*

[Coffin Fedder]

Both of you guys are wrong for yelling at each. The worst starting QB in the league right now was Ken Dorsey of the Cleavland Browns. Sheesh. But, they're not in the playoffs.

[DuBious]

Quote: ele
"And yet they are still allowing 100 yards per game. Just because they are 4th, doesnt mean 4th is good."


Quote: KBH
"O ... m ... g. One of the dumbest things I've ever seen written in this thread. And I've read all of bdog's posts. 4th ranked in the entire league isn't good? You sir, are an idiot."

Quote: Ele
"OKay...Chargers are 8-8. They are first with in the AFC west with not a very good record...it happens. "

Ele, you either failed at reading or made a bad attempt at evading looking foolish... or both. Frankly I think you made a stab in the dark at "not being able to stop the run." And then attempted to do some sort of cover up which was then called out as stupid.

But then to back it up with this is even more odd. Taking any given weak section of the league any given year, there will often be an 8-8 team make the playoffs. But 4th "in the whole league" is just that. You can't really argue with it.

While it's true that the Vik's have the best run defense, it would logically be weak as well if the whole league has such bad run defending that 4th is considered abysmal. Thus your point is moot. Even taken with the absolute values presented (77 yards to 92) the difference simply isn't large.

To make things even more ironic with your assessment, is that the Eagles have a fantastic pass defense too, while the Vik's do not. (18th).

After all that, I'm not saying that I necessarily think the Eagles will win, although I want them to. But you need to use considerably better reasoning than that to explain why. :)

[Lost.Boy]

Denver fired their head coach shanahan which I think is idiotic. Depending on how long it takes them to get a new head coach if they already have one then their set if not they should of at least brought that guy in for preparation to take over either way they won't find anyone to measure of to him closest who isn't already taken would be marty formally of the chargers.

I forgot how many years thanks for fixing it HK

[Maverik07]

Idiotic? They ended the season on a four game losing streak and lost the division after being up by THREE games. He should be fired.

[Lost.Boy]

He built their whole team. He won them 2 superbowls he was their coach and he is getting all the blame for the team losing. I don't see anyone who can complete the team much more 1 player its a mostly young team thats is good. My point there is no justifiation in having him fired. One non playoff appearance when next year they have a great team to contend with again with no problem.

[Hatchet Klown]

Coaches lose their touch. People were speculating that Paterno would be out of Penn State this year after they lost in Iowa.

Ultimately, a teams failure to produce can always be put on the coaches shoulder... while the opposite isn't always true. It sucks, but then again that's why the coaches get paid millions a year and don't have to take any physical hits, because they're pain is all mental.

[Lost.Boy]

There was no failure to produce. The lose was to the guys out on the field. They were just getting beat down.

[Hatchet Klown]

Why were they getting beat down? Shannahan should have adjusted and had a better game plan to give his boys the advantage.

It's like arguing what came first the chicken or the egg, no matter what you say, you can both be right. However, when something like blowing a 3 game advantage in 4 games happens, someone is getting fired.

[Lost.Boy]

Their defense couldn't beat the all pro veteran line of chargers. If anything it should of been their defensive coach. Only other reason was everytime they would get near the endzone they'd screw themselves.

True. so in conclusion go eagles.

[KickAssPlaya]

why doesn't anyone have faith in the cardinals?
cuz they have been slacking as of late.
It's because Eckel is a former Patriot...Ole Bill taught him well :)

*waits for Cheat's "superfan" call*
:wub:
Who am I calling a superfan this time?


I'll take Miami, Indy, Falcons and Eagles to win.

Me? I'll take baltimore, chargers, falcons and eagles. :)

[DuBious]

On an unrelated note, does anyone notice that the Pat's don't seem so dominant when they're not looking at opponents' playbooks? :P

[KickAssPlaya]

On an unrelated note, does anyone notice that the Pat's don't seem so dominant when they're not looking at opponents' playbooks? :P

yeah because all season we haven't dominated in any of our games. And the fact that we lost our STARTING (star) QB in week 1 had nothing to do with it.


:rolleyes:

[DuBious]

I r troll wit that statement. >_> I was being facetious. I was wondering who all are NE fans. :P 11 - 5 with no playoff berth has gotta suck though.

[Gypsy]

Denver fired their head coach shanahan which I think is idiotic. Depending on how long it takes them to get a new head coach if they already have one then their set if not they should of at least brought that guy in for preparation to take over either way they won't find anyone to measure of to him closest who isn't already taken would be marty formally of the chargers.

I forgot how many years thanks for fixing it HK

He was a bad gm. I doubt he would've accepted just losing the gm part. I don't know the full story on this yet though, been hearing different things from different sources.

[Hatchet Klown]

On an unrelated note, does anyone notice that the Pat's don't seem so dominant when they're not looking at opponents' playbooks? :P

The fact that they could overcome losing their franchise QB in week 1, and come out and go 11-5 with a backup who hadn't been game tested shows their ability.

I think they did well and deserved a playoff berth, but at no point this year were the pats a Superbowl contender, even with Tom Brady.

[Coffin Fedder]

They did better then great, they did just freaking tremendous. I think Cassell is a pretty under-rated QB right now. He's very good, great arm, He knows how to drie off of that back leg to get more velocity on his throws. He shows very great accuracy in his throws also, he may throw a couple of bad ones but name one rookie how wouldn't. Even Matt Ryan did. I was extremely disappointed they did get a playoff berth but that just goes and tells you how tough the AFC division was this season.

[Blexican]

The fact that they could overcome losing their franchise QB in week 1, and come out and go 11-5 with a backup who hadn't been game tested shows their ability.

I think they did well and deserved a playoff berth, but at no point this year were the pats a Superbowl contender, even with Tom Brady.

How with Tom Brady could they not be a super bowl contender? Don't get me wrong I HATE the Pats (especially brady) with a passion. But going 18-1? And expecting the next year to be any different? Pats have a past of.... repeating.

They lost asaunte(sp) samuel, and thats i believe the biggest they lost. There have been some significant injuries this year other than Brady, but I could not say they wouldnt of been a super bowl contender.

[pils]

Yeah really.... They went 11-5 with Cassel. There is just no way that they wouldn't have done better with Brady...

[Gypsy]

They did better then great, they did just freaking tremendous. I think Cassell is a pretty under-rated QB right now. He's very good, great arm, He knows how to drie off of that back leg to get more velocity on his throws. He shows very great accuracy in his throws also, he may throw a couple of bad ones but name one rookie how wouldn't. Even Matt Ryan did. I was extremely disappointed they did get a playoff berth but that just goes and tells you how tough the AFC division was this season.

I think Cassell overall this year was better than Matt Ryan, but then again Cassell has had time to sit and prepare. The Falcons were carried by a strong run game and decent defense, so Ryan didn't have to make a ton of plays, although he did have over 3,400 passing yards, which is a little more than 200 a game, so not that bad.

Patriots are a title contender with Brady no question.

[Hatchet Klown]

How with Tom Brady could they not be a super bowl contender? Don't get me wrong I HATE the Pats (especially brady) with a passion. But going 18-1? And expecting the next year to be any different? Pats have a past of.... repeating.

They lost asaunte(sp) samuel, and thats i believe the biggest they lost. There have been some significant injuries this year other than Brady, but I could not say they wouldnt of been a super bowl contender.

Cassel played as well, if not better than Tom Brady. Yes their record might have been 12-4 or 13-3 with Brady, because Brady wouldn't have had the transition games/problems Cassel had. But once he got settled in, he was a best. Which is where my whole point rides in, the pats right now would not go all the way and win the superbowl, no way. The Steelers, Chargers and Dolphins games weren't an offensive problem, they were a complete defensive collapse, which Tom Brady wouldn't have helped.

On any given Sunday, skill comes into play, but luck always has place in the game aswell. Going 18-1 last year was alot of luck to the pats. I personally believe it was bad karma for them comparing themselves to football legends before they earned anything.

[Gypsy]

Cassel played as well, if not better than Tom Brady. Which is where my whole point rides in.


Did you see some of the bad throws Cassell made? He also had some really bad overall performances, the good showings were really against mediocre defenses. Of course I wouldn't even dare compare the stat lines, I'll leave that for the Patriots fans.

the pats right now would not go all the way and win the superbowl, no way.



Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't, I see no great teams, the point is they would of had a chance.

[Hatchet Klown]

Cassel played as well, if not better than Tom Brady. Yes their record might have been 12-4 or 13-3 with Brady, because Brady wouldn't have had the transition games/problems Cassel had. But once he got settled in, he was a best. Which is where my whole point rides in, the pats right now would not go all the way and win the superbowl, no way. The Steelers, Chargers and Dolphins games weren't an offensive problem, they were a complete defensive collapse, which Tom Brady wouldn't have helped.

On any given Sunday, skill comes into play, but luck always has place in the game aswell. Going 18-1 last year was alot of luck to the pats. I personally believe it was bad karma for them comparing themselves to football legends before they earned anything.

Here's my revised post. The original came off way different than I wanted it to.

[Hatchet Klown]

Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't, I see no great teams, the point is they would of had a chance.

I said they atleast deserved a chance, the pats played well this year. My point is they simply wouldn't have gotten past (or even to) the AFC Championship game.

[Gypsy]

Here's my revised post. The original came off way different than I wanted it to.
Still inviting rape attempts from Pats fans, but yes, much better.

Anyway, I'm gonna predict winners for this weekend.

Eagles at Vikings: Eagles
Colts at Chargers: Colts
Ravens at Dolphins: Ravens
Falcons at Cardinals: Falcons

Alot of weak division winners, although I was tempted to take the Chargers because they are on such a roll.

I said they atleast deserved a chance, the pats played well this year. My point is they simply wouldn't have gotten past (or even to) the AFC Championship game.


We will never know though...so...really...it's hard to make that statement. If they had went 13-3 they would of had a bye most likely, and I really don't see how they couldn't win one playoff game to at least make the conference title game and then really you never know.

[KickAssPlaya]

How with Tom Brady could they not be a super bowl contender? Don't get me wrong I HATE the Pats (especially brady) with a passion. But going 18-1? And expecting the next year to be any different? Pats have a past of.... repeating.

They lost asaunte(sp) samuel, and thats i believe the biggest they lost. There have been some significant injuries this year other than Brady, but I could not say they wouldnt of been a super bowl contender.
We lost samuels two years ago. ;)
Cassel played as well, if not better than Tom Brady. Yes their record might have been 12-4 or 13-3 with Brady, because Brady wouldn't have had the transition games/problems Cassel had. But once he got settled in, he was a best. Which is where my whole point rides in, the pats right now would not go all the way and win the superbowl, no way. The Steelers, Chargers and Dolphins games weren't an offensive problem, they were a complete defensive collapse, which Tom Brady wouldn't have helped.

On any given Sunday, skill comes into play, but luck always has place in the game aswell. Going 18-1 last year was alot of luck to the pats. I personally believe it was bad karma for them comparing themselves to football legends before they earned anything.

The pats weren't saying they were legends that was the MEDIA! See that's what I don't get about all you patriot haters. You make it seem like the patriots go around saying "we are the best you all suck. bow down to me!" nooooo...the media hyped everything up last year. and the super bowl years.

[Hatchet Klown]

Anyway, I'm gonna predict winners for this weekend.

Eagles at Vikings: Eagles
Colts at Chargers: Colts
Ravens at Dolphins: Ravens
Falcons at Cardinals: Falcons

Alot of weak division winners, although I was tempted to take the Chargers because they are on such a roll.



First prediction I can completely agree with.

[The Cheat]

The Ravens-Miami game and the Colts Charges game are throwing me off. Could go either way with those two.

[pils]

I'd be happy to see either the Falcons or the Cardinals go to the superbowl. Dolphins in the superbowl, after going what, 1-16 last year, would be kinda funny too.

[Blexican]

Falcons for Super Bowl!

[Lost.Boy]

If miami won the super bowl. I would look for the post cheat predicted it in.

[Coffin Fedder]

I think every team that made the playoffs has a hell of a chance because they all have elite caliber players who can make a game turnaround just like that. The game that I'm most curious too see is the Vikings and Eagles. Two great defenses against each other bashings, how will jackson throw under the pressure, will mcnabb still be on fire. How will Westbrook and Peterson collide? DUN DUN DUN!

Who do the Falcons play? I honestly forgot. Cardinals wasn't it?

[Hatchet Klown]

Yes, Falcons play the Cardinals.

[Maverik07]

Dolphins-Falcons Super Bowl.

The two worst teams from last season battling out in the biggest game this season. Both franchises have been pretty impressive this year.

That would be a pretty epic game.

[KBHoleN1]

I'm hoping for Carolina-Tennessee. Kerry Collins against his old team. Two neighboring states. Two teams built around running the ball and playing good, physical defense. Plus, Johnson/White vs Williams/Stewart for the rights to the nickname Smash and Dash. THAT would be epic.

[The Butcher]

I'm hoping for Eagles Chargers ;)

[KBHoleN1]

My picks for Round 1:

Cardinals over Falcons.
Colts over Chargers.
Ravens over Dolphins.
Eagles over Vikings.

[I'malive24/7]

Round 1 picks:

Falcons beat Cardinals
Chargers beat Colts
Ravens beat Dolphins
Eagles beat Vikings

[greendaybum5]

Round 1 picks:

Falcons beat Cardinals
Chargers beat Colts
Ravens beat Dolphins
Eagles beat Vikings

i agree except for SD over Ind....i think SD is hot as hell but the colts are just too strong, I don't think IND will go past round two, but if SD does pull out a win here watch out...

Eagles will be a big surprise this year...watch out for the same thing the giants did last year

[Gypsy]

i agree except for SD over Ind....i think SD is hot as hell but the colts are just too strong, I don't think IND will go past round two, but if SD does pull out a win here watch out...

Eagles will be a big surprise this year...watch out for the same thing the giants did last year

Then you agree with me 100%, when I was posting my predictions, I was really trying to think of a home team that could win, I feel that the Vikings may have the best chance but I don't trust their quarterback play at all. I think the Eagles could easily get to the NFC Championship game (they have shown they can beat the Giants, who they would play if they beat Minnestoa) but I really don't see them winning or getting to the superbowl.

[Coffin Fedder]

My picks for Round 1:

Cardinals over Falcons.
Colts over Chargers.
Ravens over Dolphins.
Eagles over Vikings.

Falcons over Cardinals
Colts Over Chargers
Ravens Over Dolphins
Vikings Over Eagles

That's what I got.

[endless]

Falcons over Cardinals
Colts Over Chargers
Ravens Over Dolphins
Vikings Over Eagles

That's what I got.

Close.

Falcons over Cardinals
Colts Over Chargers
Dolphins Over Ravens
Vikings Over Eagles

[_Thunder_]

Falcons over Cardinals
Colts Over Chargers
Ravens Over Dolphins
Vikings Over Eagles

That's what I got.

Exactly what I picked, smart man :p

[Hatchet Klown]

If the birds' offense shows up to play (like they did against Arizone/Dallas), birds win easily, probably by 14 or more. If not, it'll be a tight, low scoring game, in which I'll anticipate a 3 point swing either way.

[Hatchet Warrior]

Falcons over Cardinals
Colts Over Chargers
Ravens Over Dolphins
Vikings Over Eagles

That's what I got.

That is a good call, but the Vik and Eagle game will be a toss up.

Cardinals over Falcons
Chargers over Colts
Ravens Over Dolphins
Vikings Over Eagles
I know, i'm a crazy bastard but I picked Miami over the pats in the first game they played so yeah.

[The Cheat]

I'd be happy to see either the Falcons or the Cardinals go to the superbowl. Dolphins in the superbowl, after going what, 1-16 last year, would be kinda funny too.

That it would be.

I'd love for a random team to make it.
Falcons for Super Bowl!

Sounds cool.
If miami won the super bowl. I would look for the post cheat predicted it in.

I said that? :eek::confused::huh:
I'm hoping for Carolina-Tennessee. Kerry Collins against his old team. Two neighboring states. Two teams built around running the ball and playing good, physical defense. Plus, Johnson/White vs Williams/Stewart for the rights to the nickname Smash and Dash. THAT would be epic.

I will call it now.

I don't think the Titans or the Giants will make the SB.

I have a feeling a wildcard will make it.

Watch out for Pitt....they are the darkhorse for the AFC.

I see the Panthers making it.

[Unforgottner]

...

Steelers are no darkhorse

[The Cheat]

...

Steelers are no darkhorse

In my mind they are.

I have heard very few people talk about them making it to the SB.

[Hatchet Warrior]

I predict Ravens vs Steelers for the AFC championship with Ravens winning.

[Gypsy]

It's hard to be a dark horse when you are the #2 seed with a first round bye, they won't sneak up on their opponents that much is sure. Not many people mention the Steelers because they are not a flashy team.

[Spirit_Monger]

If the Steelers win another championship I'll be pissed.
They're a cheap team who really shouldn't have won it back in '05.

[KBHoleN1]

Cheap team? Knocking your f*cking head off on defense is what football is all about. I may not cheer for the Steelers, but you have to respect the way they play football. That TEAM wins despite Big Ben's injuries, despite any problems they have on offense, and despite the conditions. THAT is football, and this is coming from a Dallas fan.

[Spirit_Monger]

I will never be able to have respect for them. (Yes, I know I am being stupid with what I say about them. But as a Bengals fan, I can have nothing but hate towards them after the '05 playoff game)
I'm not too upset about Ward hitting Rivers ... Though I think the least he could have done was offer an apology that he got hurt (not for making the play.)
But when they took out Palmer's leg ... I really think that one was cheap.

[Hatchet Warrior]

I will never be able to have respect for them. (Yes, I know I am being stupid with what I say about them. But as a Bengals fan, I can have nothing but hate towards them after the '05 playoff game)
I'm not too upset about Ward hitting Rivers ... Though I think the least he could have done was offer an apology that he got hurt (not for making the play.)
But when they took out Palmer's leg ... I really think that one was cheap.

I'm a Bengals fan as well, but i'm rooting for someone in our division to take it.

[Spirit_Monger]

Yeah I'm rooting for the Ravens.
As long as they aren't screwing our playoff hopes in a season I don't hate them at all.

[greendaybum5]

I don't get how so many people are saying the vikings will beat the eagles....

Adrian Peterson has been playing hurt which he will be again this week and while they have a terrific defense, they really have no offense besides AP... i mean if the eagles cover Shiancoe vikings have nobody else to throw it to, since samuel will shut down berrian...it's all over vikings fans

[Hatchet Klown]

Asante is questionable for Sunday, which may or may not work into the Eagles favor. He plays to turn over the ball, rather then cover the reciever. Either he's going to make a big play, or get burnt for a big play. So playing Brown, Shepherd, Dawkins and Hanson in the secondary might play to our advantage in keeping their receiver (avoiding the plural wasn't a mistake) locked down, and focusing in on the run a more realistic and quite possibly easier task.

PS: Don't ask why I woke up and checked my computer somewhere around 5am. >_<

[Coffin Fedder]

That is a good call, but the Vik and Eagle game will be a toss up.

Cardinals over Falcons
Chargers over Colts
Ravens Over Dolphins
Vikings Over Eagles
I know, i'm a crazy bastard but I picked Miami over the pats in the first game they played so yeah.

He's not lying about the Miami thing either. He also predicted the draw between Cincy and The Eagles...........
They can't let Berrian get up, he's just got crazy speed. If one of the secondary misstep and he's open downfield, we all know Jackson's got the arm to sling it down there.

[_Thunder_]

He's not lying about the Miami thing either. He also predicted the draw between Cincy and The Eagles...........
They can't let Berrian get up, he's just got crazy speed. If one of the secondary misstep and he's open downfield, we all know Jackson's got the arm to sling it down there.

Same thing goes for DeSaun though, as long as he doesn't throw it away before he reaches the TD :rofl:.

But I agree Berrian is definitely a underrated receiver.

[Gypsy]

I don't get how so many people are saying the vikings will beat the eagles....

Adrian Peterson has been playing hurt which he will be again this week and while they have a terrific defense, they really have no offense besides AP... i mean if the eagles cover Shiancoe vikings have nobody else to throw it to, since samuel will shut down berrian...it's all over vikings fans
A few people on this forum were taking the Eagles, I know I was. I expect it to be a close game, maybe a late fg from Akers to win it. Alot depends on the Eagles run D.

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

Vikings vs. Titans

run the ball.
stop the run.

its how you win in the playoffs.
DIDNT YA KNOW?

[_Thunder_]

Vikings vs. Titans

run the ball.
stop the run.

its how you win in the playoffs.
DIDNT YA KNOW?

Vikings are not playing the titans.. :rolleyes:

[Hatchet Klown]

I think that was his prediction for the superbowl, atleast I hope it was for his sake.

[_Thunder_]

I think that was his prediction for the superbowl, atleast I hope it was for his sake.

Don't give him a net to fall back on :mad:

And even if it was a superbowl prediction. it's a stupid one.. Vikings might get past round one.. but they can't get lucky twice.

[Hatchet Klown]

Well atleast one of my picks was off... it's all but guranteed the Cardinals have this game on lock.

[_Thunder_]

Well atleast one of my picks was off... it's all but guranteed the Cardinals have this game on lock.

Your right, they should.. But I picked the falcons anyway, but if Roddy White and Turner are shut down.. GG. (Even though its really really tough to do)

[greendaybum5]

jeez, well cardinals surprised the hell outta me...edge is back that's not good for nfc teams

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

Vikings are not playing the titans.. :rolleyes:

omg youre so right, im retarded.
i guess that wouldve made more sense if it was a superbowl pick.
stating random matchups between random NFL teams is silly, now that I think about it.
:rolleyes:

[Hatchet Klown]

The fact you just skipped this weeks games, next weeks games, and the conference championship games, it is silly.

[Lost.Boy]

Woo go cardianls! 30 -24 time for chargers colts.

[Gypsy]

A good showing from the Cardinals, but they have to go on the road next week and I don't see them advancing. If they can mix in the run more (like tonight) they may stand a chance though.

[greendaybum5]

winner of the game that's about to start will be AFC rep this year, i'm calling it...i'm excited to watchi this game

[Hugh Junit]

Great game. Everything I hoped for the start of the playoff season, and I'm happy the Cards held on.
Ready to watch Colts/Bolts, the two hottest teams down the stretch. With Addai back, and Tomlinson reportedly "not 100%", I think the running games will be pretty evenly matched. Both defenses struggled early but have played well the second half, and both teams have HUGE talent at the WR and TE position.
Which quarterback is going to have the better day? I'm actually thinking Rivers. The Chargers are my call today.

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

All colts today.

[The Butcher]

jeez, well cardinals surprised the hell outta me...edge is back that's not good for nfc teams

He only rushed for 73 yards...

That's a good performance for the Cardinals, but would be a very bad day for any of the other NFC teams as far as rushing.

Props to the cardinals, i just don't think that's much to get in a fuss about.

All colts today.

Not so far... 3 and out of you don't count the PI.

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

I'll take the smooth-executing colts over an inconsistent Chargers team shown to have weaknesses in their Merriman-less defense anyday. Lop on that LT has done jack this season makes the chargers one-dimensional. Sure rivers is good, but he cant outduel manning.

[Hatchet Warrior]

So, I called Arizona winning. You can now bow to my feet. :p

[Gypsy]

He only rushed for 73 yards...

That's a good performance for the Cardinals, but would be a very bad day for any of the other NFC teams as far as rushing.

Props to the cardinals, i just don't think that's much to get in a fuss about.


Well, considering how many of the yards were after contact. The Cardinals really suck at run blocking, but yeah, I don't see them winning next week.

[Zander]

I'm such a bad bad boy, rooting for the colts...

[_Thunder_]

omg youre so right, im retarded.
i guess that wouldve made more sense if it was a superbowl pick.
stating random matchups between random NFL teams is silly, now that I think about it.
:rolleyes:
If you read anything under that, I realized it and pointed it out. Read before you post! :rolleyes:

[Lost.Boy]

The refs were so bribed to go against the colts.

[EleMENTAL]

Woooooohhhhh


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sproles to win it!!!!!!!

[Blexican]

WOOOOOOOOOOOooo go chargers!

[Gypsy]

What a game. Darren Sproles is sick.

Also...all of those penalties were pretty obvious, hard to say it was bias.

[Hatchet Warrior]

That game was worth watching.

Colts really screwed themselves, I see one player getting shit canned.

2-0 so far baby.

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

SPROLLESS.
whatta thug

[Zander]

http://www.citizens21.com/~civicryda2k/misc/fun_stuff/ANGRY%20FACE.gif




...




There's always the NFC.

[Hugh Junit]

SPROLLESS.
whatta thug

Yeah, seriously.
I was right about the Chargers winning, but TOTALLY wrong about it coming down to quarterback play. Rivers didn't outplay Manning, but Sproles outplayed everyone on the field.
328 total yards and the game winning TD in overtime?!?! Are you freakin' kidding me?
That guy just became a star.

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

scifres was something too. He did about as much as a punter can do in a winning effort

[Hugh Junit]

scifres was something too. He did about as much as a punter can do in a winning effort

Yep. That guy was amazing tonight.

[EleMENTAL]

The game definatley lived up to the hype that it had. Close game like always. Gates was the reciever after all the fuss about his injury. Tomlinson tried, but there is only so much you can do with a torn groin, maybe more. Sproles is simply amazing and stepped it up like he knew he had to. And Scifres...how has he not made the Pro Bowl? He is by far one of the best punters in the league.

[Blexican]

So how about norv(sp) turner saving his job? And About Shanahan losing his!


We should totally get shanahan for the cowboys. Theres already rumors... !

[greendaybum5]

Chargers= AFC super bowl reps if injuries go away....you saw it here first

[Hatchet Warrior]

So how about norv(sp) turner saving his job? And About Shanahan losing his!


We should totally get shanahan for the cowboys. Theres already rumors... !

Shanahan to Bengals? I can feel it.

[Blexican]

Shanahan to Bengals? I can feel it.

Jones would give him more money.

[Gypsy]

Yep. That guy was amazing tonight.

Without him they probably lose. He pinned them inside the 10 yard line 3 times I believe.

Also, if the Chargers had just held on to the ball they wouldn't have needed overtime. Colts got some key turnovers (Sproles fumbling near the goal line and that Rivers INT after the big 4th down conversion) and then there was that awesome play where they caught the Chargers off guard and got that td. The better team won the game I think.

Yeah, seriously.
I was right about the Chargers winning, but TOTALLY wrong about it coming down to quarterback play. Rivers didn't outplay Manning, but Sproles outplayed everyone on the field.
328 total yards and the game winning TD in overtime?!?! Are you freakin' kidding me?
That guy just became a star.

Yeah he's a shifty cat. He still has alot of Kansas highschool football records I think but it's been awhile since I've looked.

[greendaybum5]

huge goal line stand by the ravens...dolphins are going to need those TDs if they want to win...

GET READY FOR THE BIRDS BABY

[KickAssPlaya]

The refs were so bribed to go against the colts.
oh yeah TOTALLY. :rolleyes:

[greendaybum5]

and now Ed Reed just got his ticket to the hall of fame

[The Butcher]

F Ed Reed.

This is not the game for Pennington to self-desctruct..

Who got the opening kickoff?