For NFL Fans

[Blexican]

Well this year is a big year for NFL football.

were gonna lay down on who we think is going the distance this year. There are alot of teams that could be greatness this year.

and please if you don't know about football dont post just cause there your favorite, post with a reason.

[EleMENTAL]

I am going with the Chargers. Philip Rivers is supposed to be as good, or better than Drew Brees.

[Serge]

AFC: Cincinatti Bengals
NFC: Hotlanta Falcons

Serious prediction?

AFC: Cincinatti Bengals (Carson Palmer is TOO strong)
NFC: Curalina Panthers (Respect that D)

[meat.eater]

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27181

Big year! We need more folks! 14 isnt enough! (well, it is, but more is better)

[Serge]

I'm not sure I can be on for a live draft.

Will you be real mad if I bail on draft day?

[meat.eater]

You can pre-set your draft picks. Comp will do it for you.

[Jeffery]

I will bet anyone here $100 cash that I can name a team that WILL not win the superbowl this year.

[Draquist]

Im thinking Dallas has a good shot at it.

[Serge]

I will bet anyone here $100 cash that I can name a team that WILL not win the superbowl this year.
Buffalo Bills.

[KickAssPlaya]

It is funny that this thread was made today, me and my friends were talking about it after practice. I think that the Patriots and Panthers. Patriots always find a way to do it with the "no-names". As for the Panthers, they have just too much talent not to make it. Killer D and now with Keyshaun alongside Smith, going to have some high scoring games. :)

[Franchise]

I agree with Panthers have a good year as well as Dallas. But the team that I think will do real well is the Cardinals. They have a great running game with an amazing squad of receivers.
Does anyone here think that the Colts will ever win a superbowl?

[Spirit_Monger]

I think the Bengals have a good shot as long as Palmer gets healthy enough plus stays healthy, and they can overcome the distraction of having their players arrested so much.

[TTitan44]

I'm going with Tennessee to do good this year. Not win the Super Bowl. Billy Volek will start about half the season because he has proven in the past when McNair went down, he could get the job done. Vince Young will take over after Volek and then kick the Eagles ass week 11. (You hear that DarkMethod, Eagle24, and Franchise!). No chance the Eagles can win that game. Titans had an amazing offseason getting Young and LenDale White in the draft. And Chris Hope, Kevin Mawae, and David Givens. I say they finish 2nd in the AFC South but don't make the playoffs. Record maybe 8-8 or 7-9 As for Philly, another below .500 season. They go 5-11.

AFC: Colts
NFC: Panthers

Winner: Colts

Arizona will be a team to watch since they have one of the best recieving core with Fitzgerald, Boldin, and Johnson. They will win the big game in the near future with Matt Leinart leading them.

[Serge]

I think the Bengals have a good shot as long as Palmer gets healthy enough plus stays healthy, and they can overcome the distraction of having their players arrested so much.
Not _that_ big of a distraction. Lewis will whoop Henry and Thurman into shape. The only real problem is Thurman getting suspended for four games.

Also, TTitan44, I don't see Young starting until _late_ this season, or if Volek does terrible, which isn't likely as Volek is a real good qb. Also, the thought of P. Manning winning a super bowl is a joke. He wants the comparisons to Deerino, he's gonna earn them. No ring, ever.

[KickAssPlaya]

I agree with Panthers have a good year as well as Dallas. But the team that I think will do real well is the Cardinals. They have a great running game with an amazing squad of receivers.
Does anyone here think that the Colts will ever win a superbowl?
No, in my mind the Colts won't win a superbowl with Manning leading them. Don't get me wrong, Peyton is a great QB all props to the guy. But I say he is the Dan Marino(sp?) of this generation. He will probably get most/all records but won't ever get the ring.

[endless]

haha KAP, your prolly right.. im a huge colts fan. Since i used to live in Indy. I want the colts to win. Mabe this year they'll get to the big dance. But they wont win it.

[allstarGL]

I'm gonna have to go for a somewhat longshot for the superbowl champs in KC. Their offense is always amazing but with herman edwards in there to help coach the defense and with some of their big name additions on D like ty law I think they have a good shot. I hoping san fran can win 6 games this year:D

[Coffin Fedder]

Heres my what a couple would say, The Vikings because they got Ben Leber and all of them!

I'll have to go with the Panthers and Bengals. Chad Johnson and Carson Palmer are a hell of a combination. Then you have Jake Delhome with Keyshawn Johnson and Steve Smith. I wonder who there gonna start though, Deshaun Foster or DeAngelo Willaims. Since Stephen Davis retired. Oo, yea I can't forgot about Rudi Johnson. Bengals are the offense strong well the Panthers have the D. I mean honestly, Kris Jenkins Dan Morgan and Julius peppers? Thats just amazing right there.

[KickAssPlaya]

Heres my what a couple would say, The Vikings because they got Ben Leber and all of them!

I'll have to go with the Panthers and Bengals. Chad Johnson and Carson Palmer are a hell of a combination. Then you have Jake Delhome with Keyshawn Johnson and Steve Smith. I wonder who there gonna start though, Deshaun Foster or DeAngelo Willaims. Since Stephen Davis retired. Oo, yea I can't forgot about Rudi Johnson. Bengals are the offense strong well the Panthers have the D. I mean honestly, Kris Jenkins Dan Morgan and Julius peppers? Thats just amazing right there.
I don't think Carson will have a good a season as last, due to his injury..same with Culpepper in Miami. I don't think Miami will do horrible but not that good either. Next year though, with Duante back with a year to recover and Williams back, they will be a team to watch. Cause their D has never been that bad. :)

[Deathstorm]

Go Patriots!!!

[KickAssPlaya]

Go Patriots!!!
Take this man's advice, he is wise. :cool2:

[Deathstorm]

no i don't but i love them i live in ohio :bigsmile: but they school!

[allstarGL]

I don't think Carson will have a good a season as last, due to his injury..same with Culpepper in Miami. I don't think Miami will do horrible but not that good either. Next year though, with Duante back with a year to recover and Williams back, they will be a team to watch. Cause their D has never been that bad. :)
Culpepper to Chambers could be one of the best combo's in the league. This is the first time Chambers has a top notch qb to throw to him. He's been rippin it with shitty people throwing to him so I'm very interested to see what he'll do this year.

[Coffin Fedder]

Culpepper to Chambers could be one of the best combo's in the league. This is the first time Chambers has a top notch qb to throw to him. He's been rippin it with shitty people throwing to him so I'm very interested to see what he'll do this year.

Culpepper and Chambers is a very nice combo indeed. But, Jerry Porter and Randy moss have Aaron Brooks now? You know how unbelieve thats gonna be if they work it out right.

[Demolitioner]

The patriots are very goood go Tom brady(he schools)

[Coffin Fedder]

The patriots are very goood go Tom brady(he schools)

Yes, but who does he have to throw to anymore? I mean sure they still have Corey Dillon, but hes getting a little old now a days.

[Demolitioner]

troy brown retire?

[TAO_Chaos1]

Although I'm a Eagles fan, I really think they will do well this year. Although I really do think that the Panthers will go the distance with Seatlle in the Super Bowl, as long as Alexander stays healthy and stays away from the "madden curse". The Chargers should also go pretty far into the playoffs.

To the demolioner, the pats, will not be good this year, they gave up many great players in their defense for cap room, don't talk unless you know what you're talking about, and Tom Brady will not be able to carry the Pats yet again.

[allstarGL]

Culpepper and Chambers is a very nice combo indeed. But, Jerry Porter and Randy moss have Aaron Brooks now? You know how unbelieve thats gonna be if they work it out right.
O yea I agree completely. I was just commenting on what he said about culpepper.

[TAO_Chaos1]

Culpepper and Chambers is a very nice combo indeed. But, Jerry Porter and Randy moss have Aaron Brooks now? You know how unbelieve thats gonna be if they work it out right.
True, but how many ppl get along with Randy Moss? He's is a up-scale Terrell Owens in skill and attitude:dry: . THe Dolphins will be ok this season, but I have a feeling Cullpepper won't do well there at all , he has no receivers what so ever! And the Ricky Willliams deal is too good to be true.
Lets not leave Dallas out of the runnings either, I have a feeling they will make their come back season this year.:cool:

[Say What?]

You are all crazy. Not one of you have mentioned the Ravens. What is the one thing that has been missing from the equation of the Baltimore Ravens? A QB. And who did we get? A monster of a QB, Steve McNair. SB Champs this year!!! (^_^)

-SW

[TAO_Chaos1]

THe got McNair, big whoop? Who else do they have on offense, and did you see McNairs crappy season last year?

[Blexican]

mcNair is a big whoop.

that will help propell them this season

[TAO_Chaos1]

True but who are his star receivers or tight ends?

[Blexican]

quarterbacks can bring out great recievers or tight ends.

[TAO_Chaos1]

Yeah, the quarterbacks do alot but the receivers have to finish it in the end. The Ravens will be a bit better, but defenately not a SB contender.

[Blexican]

im going for the redskins this year for sure.

portis is polished and ready to go and they just got randel el along to help with santa moss.

[TTitan44]

True but who are his star receivers or tight ends?

Who don't they have? He has his former favorite target at Wideoit with Derrick Mason. And he has Todd Heap. McNair makes a TE's career. Look at how good he made Frank Wychek. Also, McNair is a warrior. He's played with injury after injury every year.

[Blexican]

thanks for saying basiclly what i just did.

[TTitan44]

thanks for saying basiclly what i just did.

No Problem. :)

[Serge]

No, in my mind the Colts won't win a superbowl with Manning leading them. Don't get me wrong, Peyton is a great QB all props to the guy. But I say he is the Dan Marino(sp?) of this generation. He will probably get most/all records but won't ever get the ring.
No. I didn't say the exact same thing one post before you. That's crazy talk.

Noob.

[Serge]

First off.

Santana Moss, not santa.

Second.

Tom Brady is a joke. He didn't carry shit, ever. The Pats D won those Super Bowls, with the help of Vinny, not Brady.

Third.

McNair is old, the Ravens have to play both the Steelers and the Bengals twice. Good game, good bye Charm City.

Fourth.

Aaron Brooks can bomb that piece, I know, but he's not exactly a star qb. He may be able to do some stuff this year with Moss (good for any qb) and Porter, but he won't be winning championships or trophies.

Fifth.

Carson Palmer will lead the league in touchdowns, again.

[Blexican]

First off.

Santana Moss, not santa.



he can be santa if he wants he wears red and white :bigsmile:

[TAO_Chaos1]

I still think the Panthers, SeaHwaks or Colts will win this season, The Cards should be a big contender as well.

[KickAssPlaya]

Yes, but who does he have to throw to anymore? I mean sure they still have Corey Dillon, but hes getting a little old now a days.
Ever heard of Super Bowl XXXIX MVP, Deion Branch? And like the 3rd all-time leading reciever in Patriots history, Troy Brown? And plus the Pats have never really had a SUPER-STAR reciever, but yet they won 3 out of 4 years. ;)
Second.

Tom Brady is a joke. He didn't carry shit, ever. The Pats D won those Super Bowls, with the help of Vinny, not Brady.
Yeah, cause Brady had nothing to do with those 2-minute drill scores, no that is "crazy talk". The 2-minute scoring drives were all the Pats D.

Noob.

It wasn't any part of the Patriots,individually, that won them the super bowls, it was the whole TEAM, and sure having Vinateri didn't hurt.

[TAO_Chaos1]

Yes, Brady is too overrated, but the pats wont go to far, they will still of course have a winning season with their smashmouth offense, but they lost a couple of key players in their defense, to gain cap room, and one of the players who is demanding more money is our buddy Tom Brady.

And yes Troy Brown is a great player, he is getting very old, and isn't what he used to be.

[Blexican]

ya brady is definatley overated with 3 rings :rolleyes:

[KickAssPlaya]

Brady isn't overrated. How is he?

Being the leader of the team of three super bowl championship teams and being MVP twice. One of which was he first year starting, taking an 0-2 team to the super bowl. You don't see any other QB's doing that, do you?

He should be known as he is. In my opinion he isn't overrated.

Edit: Gah, blex you were too fast. :p

[Blexican]

Im a quick one :D

And if the redskins dont go to the super bowl this year I say next super bowl

[TAO_Chaos1]

He is a great player, no doubt about it, but when people compare him with Peyton Manning, there is no comparison at all, and yes I can name a player who has done that, I can name two. Donovan McNabb. And the other is Micheal Vick, although he hasn't been to the super bowl, they both have stepped up and have made a HUGE impact on their teams play.

And with the Redskins, I'm not feeling them this year, possibly next, no doubt about it that they are always great contenders, but I have a feeling that the Cowboys will go farther into the playoffs than them.

[KickAssPlaya]

He is a great player, no doubt about it, but when people compare him with Peyton Manning, there is no comparison at all, and yes I can name a player who has done that, I can name two. Donovan McNabb. And the other is Micheal Vick, although he hasn't been to the super bowl, they both have stepped up and have made a HUGE impact on their teams play.
Umm, neither McNabb nor Vick took their teams to the SUPER BOWL in their FIRST year as starting QB and won. That was what I asked who else did that..Yes don't get me wrong, both McNabb and Vick are good QBs.

As for Peyton, Brady will always beat him where it counts, count the rings. ;)

[Serge]

Brady didn't take his team to a superbowl his first season, he came in for the super bowl because the starter got injured.

If Brady was any good they wouldn't have had to score FUCKING FIELD GOALS on 2-minute drill drives, because they would have been winning by double digits at the 2 minute warning.

[Serge]

he can be santa if he wants he wears red and white :bigsmile:
Redskins don't wear red and white.

Redskins wear Burgundy and Gold.

[KickAssPlaya]

Brady didn't take his team to a superbowl his first season, he came in for the super bowl because the starter got injured.

If Brady was any good they wouldn't have had to score FUCKING FIELD GOALS on 2-minute drill drives, because they would have been winning by double digits at the 2 minute warning.
Okay, the starter for the season got injured in the 3rd game, but yeah Bledsoe got hurt right before the super bowl. :rolleyes:

Okay, would you rather watch a game that is 28-7 or a game that is 17-17 with under two minutes to play?

[Serge]

He is a great player, no doubt about it, but when people compare him with Peyton Manning, there is no comparison at all, and yes I can name a player who has done that, I can name two. Donovan McNabb. And the other is Micheal Vick, although he hasn't been to the super bowl, they both have stepped up and have made a HUGE impact on their teams play.

And with the Redskins, I'm not feeling them this year, possibly next, no doubt about it that they are always great contenders, but I have a feeling that the Cowboys will go farther into the playoffs than them.
Uh, Archuleta for the win?

Redskins have a _seriously_ strong team this season.

No receiver is going to want to catch a pass deeper than 5-8 yards with Sean Taylor and Adam Archuleta hovering back there. Those two hitting you individually can scramble your brains, imagine getting gang tackled by those two.

Also, Clinton Portis is in my opinion, the best running back aside from LT and Tiki. Add to that S. Moss, Brandon Lloyd (man beast), and Randle El; as long as Brunell plays half as good as he used to they have a nasty offense.

Redskins are going to be one of the top teams in the NFC this year.

[Serge]

Okay, the starter for the season got injured in the 3rd game, but yeah Bledsoe got hurt right before the super bowl. :rolleyes:

Okay, would you rather watch a game that is 28-7 or a game that is 17-17 with under two minutes to play?
Doesn't matter what's exciting. Winning by a field goal shows me how good your European with the funny shoe is.

[Serge]

He is a great player, no doubt about it, but when people compare him with Peyton Manning, there is no comparison at all, and yes I can name a player who has done that, I can name two. Donovan McNabb. And the other is Micheal Vick, although he hasn't been to the super bowl, they both have stepped up and have made a HUGE impact on their teams play.

And with the Redskins, I'm not feeling them this year, possibly next, no doubt about it that they are always great contenders, but I have a feeling that the Cowboys will go farther into the playoffs than them.
Ugh, Cowboys, no way. TO is TO, but they have to play the Giants and Redskins twice, good game, good bye Big D.

[KickAssPlaya]

Doesn't matter what's exciting. Winning by a field goal shows me how good your European with the funny shoe is.
Want to speak English this time?
And it is about what is EXCITING to the fans. Are you that dumb/ignorant?
And nice job avoiding my first part. ;)
Okay, the starter for the season got injured in the 3rd game, but yeah Bledsoe got hurt right before the super bowl. :rolleyes:

[Serge]

Want to speak English this time?
And it is about what is EXCITING to the fans. Are you that dumb/ignorant?
And nice job avoiding my first part. ;)
Not avoiding, ignoring. I didn't remember how many games Bledsoe played, just knew Brady didn't start the season. Y'know he's so great, Bellicheck must have started Bledsoe so that Brady didn't get injured.

Anyway, it's not a team's job to play exciting, it's their job to win. Ask the coach of the New Jersey Devils how much he cares if the neutral zone trap he played in the Stanely Cup finals in 2000 was exciting or not.

[KickAssPlaya]

Not avoiding, ignoring. I didn't remember how many games Bledsoe played, just knew Brady didn't start the season. Y'know he's so great, Bellicheck must have started Bledsoe so that Brady didn't get injured.

Anyway, it's not a team's job to play exciting, it's their job to win. Ask the coach of the New Jersey Devils how much he cares if the neutral zone trap he played in the Stanely Cup finals in 2000 was exciting or not.
I never said that, I was saying that Bledsoe got hurt, and then Brady took over (never starting a NFL game before), then leaded the team to the super bowl and won.

Obviously, any team's goal is to WIN, that is pretty obvious. Why be in a league if you want to lose? I am talking as a fan, which would you prefer?
Most people, as fans, would rather have a close and exciting game rather then a blowout. Although a blowout is nice, a close game is nice. Atleast in my opinion.

[Serge]

Doesn't matter what's exciting. Winning by a field goal shows me how good your European with the funny shoe is.
Winning by a field goal shows how good your kicker is.

[Serge]

I never said that, I was saying that Bledsoe got hurt, and then Brady took over (never starting a NFL game before), then leaded the team to the super bowl and won.

Obviously, any team's goal is to WIN, that is pretty obvious. Why be in a league if you want to lose? I am talking as a fan, which would you prefer?
Most people, as fans, would rather have a close and exciting game rather then a blowout. Although a blowout is nice, a close game is nice. Atleast in my opinion.
I hate seeing games won by field goals.

I think field goals and kickers should be removed from the NFL.

[Rogue_Wolf]

Huzzah, a football discussion! I need to catch up.

Panthers are my pick to win the Super Bowl this season.

I'm a Titans fan. We'll go 6-9 this season. We'll get Kerry Collins as a back-up since Volek is injury prone and they don't wanna rush Vince.

Chargers will suffer a setback. LT will see 8 men in the box all season. Philip Rivers only has Antonio Gates to throw to. Chargers have a good run defense, but an awful secondary. They'll fight for second place in the AFC West.

Dallas should be good, but I wouldn't put any money on it. They have no o-line. Drew Bledsoe will be sacked way too much, and TO won't get the ball. No catches makes TO a bad boy.

Redskins should be good, but it may be more hype than anything. They have a good offseason every year...why is this year different. Brandon Lloyd and Antwaan Randel El are over-rated. Plus, they're in one of the hardest divisions.

Tom Brady isn't over-rated. They'll win the AFC East again. Bill Belichik(sp?) is a great coach, and he'll have his team prepared. Even with all the injuries last year, they still made the playoffs. I'm never gonna count out the Pats while Brady is throwing the ball.

Dolphins will miss Ricky Williams more than they know. They're old, and will only be successful if Ronnie Brown can carry the load all season.

Ravens have McNair. If he stays healthy, the Ravens will be scary.

-Rogue_Wolf

[Serge]

Rogue_Wolf, I just want to say one thing. The Pats probably will win the AFC East, but only because it's a crappy division.

Oh, two things. The AFC North is going to be Bengals/Steelers, the Ravens might be scary for other teams, but they aren't going anywhere.

Three things, the NFC East is always a strong division, this year it's going to be strong because of the Giants/Skins, the Eagles are a joke, and the Cowboys are iffy.

[Blexican]

Redskins should be good, but it may be more hype than anything. They have a good offseason every year...why is this year different. Brandon Lloyd and Antwaan Randel El are over-rated. Plus, they're in one of the hardest divisions.

-Rogue_Wolf

BAH! randel is not overated because hes not THAT big of a deal but he will be another good dependable reciever to go to.

but yes there offense is going to be dominating there test will be there D

[Rogue_Wolf]

The Pats will win the AFC East because they're a good team...and its a crappy division. :bigsmile:

I don't think the Ravens will make the playoffs, but they'll have a presence this year and will make some noise.

The NFC East wasn't always strong. The Eagles dominated it over the past few years. This year though, they have 3 legitimate playoff contenders.

-Rogue_Wolf

[Serge]

Nah, the NFC East is like, historically, the strongest division in football. Think about it, Redskins, Cowboys, Giants, Eagles.

[Blexican]

my real hometeam is dallas, but im still not sure about owens he can go either way:rolleyes:

damn right NFC East is the strongest

[Franchise]

I agree, NFC is definetly the strongest. In my opinion, the Seahawks aren't going to do much this year. Ravens however do have a chance getting in at wildcard but it probably won't happen.
I forget who named the top running backs but they definetly forgot about Larry Johnson. KC has a solid QB and 2 amazing HBs with a good Def.
I am thinking Redskins and Panthers for NFC and I havent decided for the AFC yet.

[Serge]

Larry Johnson can run fast, that'd be about the extent of his football talents. KC just has a disgusting line. LJ is overated. All the best Johnsons play in Cinci.

[Rogue_Wolf]

Thats historically speaking. But recently, its been assumed that the Eagles were a given to make the playoffs.

BAH! randel is not overated because hes not THAT big of a deal but he will be another good dependable reciever to go to.

but yes there offense is going to be dominating there test will be there D

I fairly agree with you. To me, Randel El is nothing special. They overpaid for him, but hey, its the Redskins. They throw money around more than their QB does the football.

Adam Archuletta and Sean Taylor are hard hitters, and receivers will be afraid to go over the middle, but its deep im worried about. Archuletta isn't exactly known for his coverage abilities, but if Taylor can keep his spit in his mouth, he'll survive. I'm not familiar with their CB's. I think thye have Sean Springs and I know they drafted the guy out of Auburn last year...Carlos Rogers or something. Sean Springs fought injuries last year, and I have no clue what Rogers can do. They have that Washington guy in their LB core. Losing Arrington won't hurt that bad. He's a freak of an athlete, but doing whatever he wanted while on the field hurt the team more than it helped. As for their D-Line, I can't name one guy on it.

As for offense, Clinton Portis and Santana Moss are the only ones that stick out. Will Mark Brunell stay consistent? Will the QB they drafted out of Auburn start this year? Who's their tight end? Brandon Lloyd and Antwaan Randel El can be good, but no one's gonna fear them.

-Rogue_Wolf

[Blexican]

I cant believed we dropped arrington though :(

[Serge]

The 'Skins have Chris Cooley at TE. The kid can play, think Heath Miller but a tad better.

[Coffin Fedder]

Thats historically speaking. But recently, its been assumed that the Eagles were a given to make the playoffs.



I fairly agree with you. To me, Randel El is nothing special. They overpaid for him, but hey, its the Redskins. They throw money around more than their QB does the football.

Adam Archuletta and Sean Taylor are hard hitters, and receivers will be afraid to go over the middle, but its deep im worried about. Archuletta isn't exactly known for his coverage abilities, but if Taylor can keep his spit in his mouth, he'll survive. I'm not familiar with their CB's. I think thye have Sean Springs and I know they drafted the guy out of Auburn last year...Carlos Rogers or something. Sean Springs fought injuries last year, and I have no clue what Rogers can do. They have that Washington guy in their LB core. Losing Arrington won't hurt that bad. He's a freak of an athlete, but doing whatever he wanted while on the field hurt the team more than it helped. As for their D-Line, I can't name one guy on it.

As for offense, Clinton Portis and Santana Moss are the only ones that stick out. Will Mark Brunell stay consistent? Will the QB they drafted out of Auburn start this year? Who's their tight end? Brandon Lloyd and Antwaan Randel El can be good, but no one's gonna fear them.

-Rogue_Wolf

I completly agree with you dude. All honesty, I would sign Kerry Collins instead of using Mark Brunell if I had to. Brunell has taken so much in his carrer. Kerry Collins in all is a good QB but Ask for WAY TOO MUCH MONEY! Sean Taylor and Adam Archtulra are mean. I wouldn't go for long bombs. Shawn Springs and his amazing speed and hands are gonna be really affective. Santana Moss and his amazing speed. All honesty the fastestperson in the league. Clinton Portis with his wide vision and his Carrying ability and one of the fastest halfbacks. They can use Randel El with trickplays. Thats about it, I mean sure he's fast but his hands aren't that great. I'd make him a Cornerback in all honesty.

[Blexican]

woot...

hopefully there offense can make up for there losses on def.

and if they dont fear randel el then they will be schooled

[Lucien Lachance]

New England Patriots all the way baby!!! :p

[Blexican]

ugh please dont post to say

"WOOT REDSKINS P\/\/N THE |-|7x0|2S!!!1!111!!"

please say something intelligent

[TAO_Chaos1]

Umm, neither McNabb nor Vick took their teams to the SUPER BOWL in their FIRST year as starting QB and won. That was what I asked who else did that..Yes don't get me wrong, both McNabb and Vick are good QBs.

As for Peyton, Brady will always beat him where it counts, count the rings. ;)
Rings can only take you so far, how many undefeated season has Brady had? I would Peyton over Brady anyday.

[starwolf4888]

GREEN BAY PACKERS!
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Are gonna suck...

But you know what? We love them anyway! And we always will!

[Rogue_Wolf]

I agree, NFC is definetly the strongest....I forget who named the top running backs but they definetly forgot about Larry Johnson. KC has a solid QB and 2 amazing HBs with a good Def.

The AFC is stronger than the NFC.

And Larry Johnson started the second half of the season. So he was fresh when all his opponents' defenses had already played 7-8 games. He's definitely one of the top RB's in the league, but don't count on him getting so 200 yards and 2 TD's on a regular basis this year, especially now that Willie Roaf is retiring. Also, KC's defense blows.

The 'Skins have Chris Cooley at TE. The kid can play, think Heath Miller but a tad better.

I thought he was a FB. I knew they used him as a TE in some plays, though.

Rings can only take you so far, how many undefeated season has Brady had?

That logic is retarded. The goal of every football player is to win the Super Bowl. You can't go farther than winning a Super Bowl, unless you're a Patriot, and have won 3. And Tom Brady has the same number of undefeated seasons as Peyton Manning has: 0.

-Rogue_Wolf

[Lucien Lachance]

ugh please dont post to say

"WOOT REDSKINS P\/\/N THE |-|7x0|2S!!!1!111!!"

please say something intelligent


How about I'm sad to hear that Rodney Harrison may not be playing this season due to another injury? Cause that really sucks, he's my favorite player. But who has input on how they think Reggie Bush and Vince Young will do up against NFL players?

[KickAssPlaya]

Rings can only take you so far, how many undefeated season has Brady had? I would Peyton over Brady anyday.
RIngs, are the thing that the NFL players strive for. They want the RING. And to follow what Rogue said, Brady and Manning have the same amount of indefeated season: 0.

[Rogue_Wolf]

How about I'm sad to hear that Rodney Harrison may not be playing this season due to another injury? Cause that really sucks, he's my favorite player. But who has input on how they think Reggie Bush and Vince Young will do up against NFL players?

I haven't heard much about Rodney Harrison. He was never one of my favorite players, but I don't wanna see him miss another season due to injury.

I think Vince Young should have stayed at Texas for his senior year. One, to repeat as champions. Two, to better hone his skills. But I'm still happy he came out, since the Titans picked him. If they don't rush him on the field, he could be a great one. While he isn't as elusive as Michael Vick, he can still outrun the defensive line players and most LB's. And a corner or safety will have trouble bringing down a 6'5, 230+ pound player. Not to mention, he has a cannon for an arm and better accuracy than people give him credit for.

As for Reggie Bush, I think its the general consensus that he'll be the best RB in the league in a few years. The Texans made a big mistake.

-Rogue_Wolf

[Blexican]

How about I'm sad to hear that Rodney Harrison may not be playing this season due to another injury? Cause that really sucks, he's my favorite player. But who has input on how they think Reggie Bush and Vince Young will do up against NFL players?

thats better.

[Coffin Fedder]

Browns line offically sucks this year! They don't have Lacharles Bentley, there Center. Due to a knee injury hes out for the season.

[Lex]

Ny Giants all the way, we pick up arrignton, whether or not he will function doesn't matter he's still a presence on the field,

and the offense = pwnsor

Eli will mature this year
plaxico, amani, + this rookie (i forget his name) along with tiki and shockey...

Super bowl here we come!

[Blexican]

Curse the giants for taking arrington away from me!

[Say What?]

Giants are contenders. I love what they did during the off-season. I just think that they need Eli to step it up. What more could you ask for offensively then what he has to work with?

** Oh and thank you "The Cheat" for neg repping my last post just for saying I hope my team wins the super bowl and stating why. You insanely cool. Congrats for "not" being a complete noob. **
(*^END OF SARCASTIC RANT^*)

-SW

[Coffin Fedder]

Ny Giants all the way, we pick up arrignton, whether or not he will function doesn't matter he's still a presence on the field,

and the offense = pwnsor

Eli will mature this year
plaxico, amani, + this rookie (i forget his name) along with tiki and shockey...

Super bowl here we come!

Well, even though they have Tiki Barber, this might be last season this year.

[Lex]

Well, even though they have Tiki Barber, this might be last season this year.
I have confidence in brandom jacobs for the future (even though he is a bit of a butter finger)

and don't worry Eli will step up, i predict pro bowl for him :)

[TAO_Chaos1]

The AFC is stronger than the NFC.

And Larry Johnson started the second half of the season. So he was fresh when all his opponents' defenses had already played 7-8 games. He's definitely one of the top RB's in the league, but don't count on him getting so 200 yards and 2 TD's on a regular basis this year, especially now that Willie Roaf is retiring. Also, KC's defense blows.



I thought he was a FB. I knew they used him as a TE in some plays, though.



That logic is retarded. The goal of every football player is to win the Super Bowl. You can't go farther than winning a Super Bowl, unless you're a Patriot, and have won 3. And Tom Brady has the same number of undefeated seasons as Peyton Manning has: 0.

-Rogue_Wolf
Lol, yes the colts just did an undefeated season last year, it was the highlight of the year.:dry:

And yes the Giants are a good team, they have more than Tiki, they have Eli and Shockey, Shockey is one of the greatest TE around, any team would take him.

[Serge]

Sorry, Rogue, I have to laugh at your comment about Young's "Cannon"; that kid has no zip. It's the main problem he's gonna have in the NFL, his accuracy is good and he can run, but Champ Bailey could pick off one of his passes while eating a sandwhich.

Reggie Bush is going to make some amazing looking plays in the NFL. However, he's not going to be all that great, and he may never become an elite back, I forsee him being soft, not Marvin Harrison soft, but too soft to be an every down back. The Saints are gonna be glad they have Deuce, who they need to keep, btw.

Also, stop the Peyton/Tom debate, they're both overrated.

[Lex]

:eek: I completely agree with serge, I don't even think Vince will start at all this season, and he's extremely overrated... he's not going to be able to run nearly as well in the NFL as he did in college, he's not as good a runner as michael vick, he's maybe a lil better than Donovan Mcnabb/Daunte culpepper when they were healthy, maybe throw steve young in there.

as for reggie bush... c'mon, he's way too small, he never ran the ball more than 20 times a game in college, he's gotta be nuts if he's holding out... i'd trade him if i were the saints... deuce is a better back than reggie... Lendale White is better back than reggie...

the quaterback thing, Peyton's better than Brady because he has better receivers Brady could be just as good in indy with the same receiver core. but neither are top 3 in history and a stretch for top 5, but perhaps top 10

Lol, yes the colts just did an undefeated season last year, it was the highlight of the year.
wtf? no they didn't they lost twice...

[KickAssPlaya]

Lol, yes the colts just did an undefeated season last year, it was the highlight of the year.:dry:
Are you on drugs? :glare:

[Say What?]

Drugs is no excuse for that big of a mess up. If you are going to talk about NFL Football in detail...make sure you watch and know what you are talking about. hehe

lol

-SW

[Rogue_Wolf]

Lol, yes the colts just did an undefeated season last year, it was the highlight of the year.

The Colts went 13-0, but at the end of the season their record was 14-2. They had a good season, but it wasn't perfect.

Sorry, Rogue, I have to laugh at your comment about Young's "Cannon"; that kid has no zip. It's the main problem he's gonna have in the NFL, his accuracy is good and he can run, but Champ Bailey could pick off one of his passes while eating a sandwhich.

I meant his deep ball when I referred to his arm as a cannon. And from what I've seen, he has a strong arm and has no zip problems. Champ Bailey is one of the best CB's in the league. Its obvious he'd have a field day against any rookie QB.

Reggie Bush is going to make some amazing looking plays in the NFL. However, he's not going to be all that great, and he may never become an elite back, I forsee him being soft, not Marvin Harrison soft, but too soft to be an every down back. The Saints are gonna be glad they have Deuce, who they need to keep, btw.

Reggie just has to put on a little bit of weight. I think he'll be capable of being an every down back, but I don't think he'll be used that way. He's too versatile. He'll get strung out at WR, and will be catching balls out of the back field. He'll also have to split carries with Deuce. Also, how is Marvin Harrison considered soft?

I completely agree with serge, I don't even think Vince will start at all this season, and he's extremely overrated... he's not going to be able to run nearly as well in the NFL as he did in college, he's not as good a runner as michael vick, he's maybe a lil better than Donovan Mcnabb/Daunte culpepper when they were healthy, maybe throw steve young in there.

Vince will start a few games at the end of the season. I doubt the Titans will be in persuit of the playoffs at that time, so he'll get some playing time. Also, all high first round picks are over rated to a certain degree.

as for reggie bush... c'mon, he's way too small, he never ran the ball more than 20 times a game in college, he's gotta be nuts if he's holding out... i'd trade him if i were the saints... deuce is a better back than reggie... Lendale White is better back than reggie...

Bush is 6 foot, 200 pounds. In comparison, LaDainian Tomlinson is 5'10, 220. So if Bush can add 15 more pounds, watch out. If you were the Saints GM, you'd be looking for a new job.

-Rogue_Wolf

[Say What?]

Why does everyone doubt Billy Volek? Steve got hurt a lot so he got lot's of playing time. He has a strong arm, and he is good at finding Drew Bennett open in the endzone. Vince will prolly see some preseason games. And then on third and short or on goal line plays I hear that TEN will be using his option play. That is going to be sick.

[TAO_Chaos1]

Oh ok, I thought that, I am not a Colts fan, but I knew that they did or came close to a perfect season.

[TTitan44]

Why does everyone doubt Billy Volek? Steve got hurt a lot so he got lot's of playing time. He has a strong arm, and he is good at finding Drew Bennett open in the endzone. Vince will prolly see some preseason games. And then on third and short or on goal line plays I hear that TEN will be using his option play. That is going to be sick.

Volek has had a lot of playing time in the past and proven that he can win games. Bennett is his fav. target to throw to, so expect both of them to have a good year.

Also, Tennessee has put in a package called the Young Package, which is a bunch of plays designed for Young. Expect the option to be used like on 3rd and 1 and 4th and inches scenarios.

[TAO_Chaos1]

Volek has had a lot of playing time in the past and proven that he can win games. Bennett is his fav. target to throw to, so expect both of them to have a good year.

Also, Tennessee has put in a package called the Young Package, which is a bunch of plays designed for Young. Expect the option to be used like on 3rd and 1 and 4th and inches scenarios.
The Titans are coming back, but i'm still predicting them to stay below 500 this season.:dry:

[TTitan44]

Drugs is no excuse for that big of a mess up. If you are going to talk about NFL Football in detail...make sure you watch and know what you are talking about. hehe

lol

-SW

Ricky Williams knows all about a big mess up with drugs. :).

Anyway I have the Titans going 7-9 or 8-8.

[TAO_Chaos1]

yeah below or at 500

[Rogue_Wolf]

Why does everyone doubt Billy Volek? Steve got hurt a lot so he got lot's of playing time. He has a strong arm, and he is good at finding Drew Bennett open in the endzone. Vince will prolly see some preseason games. And then on third and short or on goal line plays I hear that TEN will be using his option play. That is going to be sick.

Billy Volek has had problems with injuries. Its not that I doubt Volek as a player, I'm just concerened with his ability to stay on the field. Also, those games where he and Drew Bennett were so good, he had Derrick Mason on the other side of the field. David Givens is no Derrick Mason.

For the Titans to have any success this year, they need a consistent running game. With uncertainties at QB, and a defense that has greatly declined over the years, a good running game would do wonders. That, or bring back Neil O'Donnel!

-Rogue_Wolf

[Memnarch]

Go Panthers!

[Coffin Fedder]

Go Panthers!

YEA! Go DeAngelo Willams and Steve Smith!

[Serge]

Rogue, whenever M. Harrison has the ball, he'll do whatever it takes to duck out of bounds or go down with the tackle. He doesn't fight for extra yards ever. He's soft.

[Memnarch]

YEA! Go DeAngelo Willams and Steve Smith!

Dont forget Keshawn. Everyone that matters is picking the Panthers to win in January. I hope so.

[TAO_Chaos1]

Yeah Keshwan, they got him this offseason, he's a under the radar great WR.

[Blexican]

keshawn johnson?

anyone else think dropping keshawn and pulling in t.o. for the cowboys was a bad idea?

[TAO_Chaos1]

WEll it was a good choice, but Keshawn is underrated

[DarkMethod GL]

The Hall of Fame game is gonna be on in a couple of days and my favorite team the Eagles get to play in it verse the Raiders.

[Serge]

*Keyshawn
*Keyshawn
*Keyshawn

And no, dropping one baby reciever for another baby reciever with more talent on the field is never a bad move.

[emerald slasher]

And no, dropping one baby reciever for another baby reciever with more talent on the field is never a bad move.

true

hhaha and yea keyshawns a beast

[Rogue_Wolf]

Rogue, whenever M. Harrison has the ball, he'll do whatever it takes to duck out of bounds or go down with the tackle. He doesn't fight for extra yards ever. He's soft.

My bad. I guess I was too busy watching Marvin scoring touchdowns on my favorite team to notice how hard or soft he was. But I'd say your definition of softness could very well describe most of the receivers in the league.

And Keyshawn Johnson is definitely not under rated. He's not over rated either. He's a good possession receiver, and he'll be the Panthers next Muhnsin Mohammed(Sorry, I know I probably butchered the guy's name).

-Rogue_Wolf

[DarkMethod GL]

Anyone gonna watch any of the preseason games? The Eagles play their second game in about an hour.

[TAO_Chaos1]

really?
is it gonna be on ESPN?

[TTitan44]

Derrick Mason is the most under-rated wideout in the league.

[Line_and_sinker]

My bad. I guess I was too busy watching Marvin scoring touchdowns on my favorite team to notice how hard or soft he was. But I'd say your definition of softness could very well describe most of the receivers in the league.

And Keyshawn Johnson is definitely not under rated. He's not over rated either. He's a good possession receiver, and he'll be the Panthers next Muhnsin Mohammed(Sorry, I know I probably butchered the guy's name).

-Rogue_Wolf

He's actually better the Mushin Muhammed in all honesty. Mushin was fast and good catch. He wasn't much of a jumper though were KeyShawn is. KeyShawn can jump up and extend his arms to grab the ball and easily bring it in with out any trouble.

[TTitan44]

I have Keyshawn for fantasy football. :bigsmile:

[DarkMethod GL]

really?
is it gonna be on ESPN?

The games gonna be on ABC in my area.

[soundwave]

TITANS ALL THE WAT W00T W00T. i know they wont make it but im behind them all the way

[Assassinoo]

Go TITANS!

[TTitan44]

Titans play today against the Saints at 8:00 EST. Can't wait.

[DarkMethod GL]

McNabb is doing amazing in the times that he has played in preseason.

[Serge]

McNabb is doing amazing in the times that he has played in preseason.
DNabb is Done.

I don't see much happening in Phily for years to come.

[TAO_Chaos1]

DNabb is Done.

I don't see much happening in Phily for years to come.
1. DNabb is the fifth best QB in the league.
2. He leads the NFL in Pass %
3. You were saying:p

[TTitan44]

He was saying that McNabb is done.

[Serge]

1. Carson Palmer
2. Peyton Manning
3. Jake Delhomme
4. Jake Plummer
5. Matt Hasselbeck
6. Drew Bledsoe
7. Drew Brees
8. Ben Roethlisberger
9. Michael Vick
10. Trent Green

And that's assuming Brett Favre and Daunte Culpepper aren't as good as they used to be. That's 10(12) QB's I'd rather have than McNabb.

[TAO_Chaos1]

I'd take DNabb over a bunch of those, he's a natural leader. He's not afraid to run. And he has a GREAT pass %.
And Carson Palmer is out for a month or two I think, though break.
Trent Green, good player, flies under the radar.
Mike Vick, in his prime, should have a great year.
Manning, we'll see how he does without edgerin.
Hasselback, showed a horrible poformance in Super Bowl under pressure.
Bledsoe, should be great with TO, we'll see.

[Serge]

I'd take DNabb over a bunch of those, he's a natural leader. He's not afraid to run. And he has a GREAT pass %.
And Carson Palmer is out for a month or two I think, though break.
Trent Green, good player, flies under the radar.
Mike Vick, in his prime, should have a great year.
Manning, we'll see how he does without edgerin.
Hasselback, showed a horrible poformance in Super Bowl under pressure.
Bledsoe, should be great with TO, we'll see.
Uh, whoa. It's the Edge that has to prove he can run without Manning, not Manning proving he can pass without Edge. When James was on the Colts he got a ton of free yardage because playing rush defense on the Colts is like wearing a plastic yellow rain coat in a volcano. You're gonna get burned, and wearing the coat is only gonna make it worse.

Carson Palmer will be fine for the season opener.

Hasselback showed a horrible performance in the Super Bowl?!?!?!??!!?!?!?!? Well, at least he was able to keep his lunch down.

[TTitan44]

How good do you guys think Vince Young will be in a few years?

[marklar2]

Hmm good question, he didn't do so good in his preseason opener. Reggie Bush averaged almost 10 yards per carry though. :confused:

[Blexican]

Tony romo looks pretty good for the cowboys in the future.

and we whipped the seahauks(sp?) lol

[TTitan44]

Hmm good question, he didn't do so good in his preseason opener. Reggie Bush averaged almost 10 yards per carry though. :confused:

He was looking real comfortable under center and in the pocket. Delivered some nice passes. Would have had 50-60 more passing yards of Roydell Williams would have caught the ball when he was running his seam route.

[TAO_Chaos1]

How good do you guys think Vince Young will be in a few years?
I do not think he will win rookie of the year, but overall i think he will have a better career than Reggir Bush or Matt Leignart.
And yeah, Vince played very well in th eopener in my opinion. Reggie may have gotten ten yeards per carry, b ut didnt get the ball all that much and did not get more than one touchdown.

[DarkMethod GL]

In the Eagles preseason games when the starters were in they have been winning.

[Blexican]

Anyone who wants to be in a last minute fantasy football league pm me.

starts in like an hour

[DarkMethod GL]

I have another FF draft tonight on yahoo :).

[allstarGL]

Best place for free drafts is espn. It OWNS yahoo.

[DarkMethod GL]

I never tried a FF league at espn yet. I've done them at yahoo and nfl before though. Also in the draft I did last night there was only 8 people in the league, so all of the teams have good players.

[Death Shot]

1. Carson Palmer
2. Peyton Manning
3. Jake Delhomme
4. Jake Plummer
5. Matt Hasselbeck
6. Drew Bledsoe
7. Drew Brees
8. Ben Roethlisberger
9. Michael Vick
10. Trent Green

And that's assuming Brett Favre and Daunte Culpepper aren't as good as they used to be. That's 10(12) QB's I'd rather have than McNabb.

Carson Palmer still has yet to play a single preseason game and you have him #1 over Peyton? Drew Brees not making it to the playoffs with LT, Gates, and Mccardell, not to mention a solid defense shows how good of a leader he is, and now he's in New Orleans. Big Ben is a great leader, but he's with Bill Cowher and the smashmouth Steelers. Every year people say Michael Vick is amazing, yet he still can't do anything. All he can do is run, he can't throw worth a darn. And also, where Tom Brady?
My List:

1.Peyton Manning
2.Tom Brady
3.Jake Plummer
4.Jake Delhomme
5.Brett Favre
6.Donavan McNabb
7.Carson Palmer
8.Matt Hassleback
9.Daunte Culpepper
10.Kurt Warner

[Draquist]

Big Ben over Mcnabb? Is that a joke dude? Big ben is terrible...he got put onto a mainly running team and now everyone thinks hes good. I guarantee you if he got put onto a passing team you would see how terrible he really is.

[mantis33]

Who dey! :cool:

[Death Shot]

Big Ben over Mcnabb? Is that a joke dude? Big ben is terrible...he got put onto a mainly running team and now everyone thinks hes good. I guarantee you if he got put onto a passing team you would see how terrible he really is.

Preach it!

Who do you think the top fantasy runners are? I have LT at the top of my list, followed by Larry Johnson, Shaun Alexander, Tiki, and Steven Jackson.

[Draquist]

Yeah LT will definately be up there as will Shaun Alexander. Larry Johnson and Steven Jackson will have good seasons but not nearly as good as LT and Alexander I dont think. Tiki I dont know about at all...I dont think hes got it in him anymore.

[Death Shot]

Tiki is like fine wine, he gets better with age. I've been trying to trade away alexander for LT or LJ, just because their equal performers, and I'm actually worried about the Madden Cover curse :|

[DarkMethod GL]

I got LJ and Steven Jackson in the draft that I did last night.

[Franchise]

I missed my draft yet again because I was on vacation but my team looks good. I got Rudi, Edge, and West for my starting RBs and Moss as my main WR.

[Death Shot]

My Best team so far:
Culpepper QB
LT RB
Steven Jackson RB
Marvin Harrison WR
Javon Walker WR
Todd Heap TE
Shayne Graham K
DST Colts

notable backups include McNair, Kevin Jones, and DST Seahawks

This is my best team, and it's even better because I'm in a winners league,( league for people who won a league last year)

[DarkMethod GL]

I have a lot of those same people on my team. How many people were in the league that you got that team on?

[Blexican]

On my other fantasy leauge i got

1. Peyton Manning QB
2. Brian Westbrook RB
3. Edgerrin James RB
4. Randy Moss WR
5. Chad Johnson WR
6. Terry Glenn WR
7. Antonio gates TE
8. Rackers K

there was only 5 people so it made it easy =P

[DarkMethod GL]

In the draft that I did last night there was only 8 people and my team is

1. McNabb
2. Larry Johnson
3. Steven Jackson
4. Chris Chambers
5. Darrell Jackson
6. Warrick Dunn
7. Jason Witten
8. Shane Grahme
9. Indy D

Then I have Culpepper and Javon walker and LJ Smith and some more people on the bench.

[DarkMethod GL]

Sorry for the double, but the Eagles traded for Daunte Stallsworth today!

[Eagle24]

Thank God we need a better WR.

[Pieface1337]

1. Tom Brady
2. Steve Smith
3. Rodd Smith
4. Lee Evans
5. Julius Jones
6. Reggie Bush
7. Alge Crumpler
8. Jason Elam
9. Dallas D!

BN Drew Bledsoe
BN Deion Branch
BN Brandon Lloyd
BN Eric Moulds
BN Rian Lindell
BN Tampa Bay Buc. D.


This was in a fairly large group. I was in the middle, which wasn't bad.
This is just 1 of my 3 football leagues.

=)

[DarkMethod GL]

Thank God we need a better WR.

Yea, I heard earlier this week that they were gonna try to get Branch, but I don't know if that will happen anymore.

[Serge]

Who dey! :cool:
Word.

Carson Palmer played today and he was nastier than ten day old fried spam.

He is the best QB in the league hands down.

Also, Brady wasn't on my list because he's the same as Big Ben, a so-so QB placed on a great defensive team.

[DarkMethod GL]

Yea, I was watching the Bengals game for a little and i saw Palmer have those two nice passes to TJ, and one was for a touchdown. Which reminds me did anyone ever see that Fantasy Football commercial that has the guy drafting TJ and he doesn't know how to say his name, lol.

[Serge]

Yea, I was watching the Bengals game for a little and i saw Palmer have those two nice passes to TJ, and one was for a touchdown. Which reminds me did anyone ever see that Fantasy Football commercial that has the guy drafting TJ and he doesn't know how to say his name, lol.
Yeah, I've seen it.

Chad Johnson referenced it when he introduced the offense. He called him TJ Who's ya mama.

BTW, Houshmanzadeh. <--I'm a true Cinci fan.

[mantis33]

That's what I like to hear Serge. :)

For all of you Carson Palmer doubters:

How does 31-0 over Green Bay sound bitches?

[Serge]

To give details on what mantis is talking about.

Palmer: 9/14, 140 yds, 3 TD.

He also had a rush for like 15 yards.

Also, the bengals ended the pack's first two drives by getting takeaways, one was returned for a TD.

Everyone get on the Black and Orange bandwagon now.

[KickAssPlaya]

To give details on what mantis is talking about.

Palmer: 9/14, 140 yds, 3 TD.

He also had a rush for like 15 yards.

Also, the bengals ended the pack's first two drives by getting takeaways, one was returned for a TD.

Everyone get on the Black and Orange bandwagon now.

How does a 41-0 shut out over a team that is actually good? For you noobs out there, I am talking about the Patriots spanking of the Redskins. And Brady isn't on that great of a defensive team.. ;)

He is just that plays with basically a bunch of no-names and they execute and hit you in the mouth. Heard it from me first that they will superbowl.

[mantis33]

To give details on what mantis is talking about.

Palmer: 9/14, 140 yds, 3 TD.

He also had a rush for like 15 yards.

Also, the bengals ended the pack's first two drives by getting takeaways, one was returned for a TD.

Everyone get on the Black and Orange bandwagon now.

:)

Are you from Cincy?

EDIT: Booo Patriots :p

[KickAssPlaya]

Booo Cincy!

And I am from East Bridgewater/Brockton, Massachusetts if anyone knows where that is. Although I live in florida now..and surrounded by fins fans. =\

[Serge]

How does a 41-0 shut out over a team that is actually good? For you noobs out there, I am talking about the Patriots spanking of the Redskins. And Brady isn't on that great of a defensive team.. ;)

He is just that plays with basically a bunch of no-names and they execute and hit you in the mouth. Heard it from me first that they will superbowl.
Ugh, nothing worse than a Brady bandwagoner...

When the Pats won those super bowls, their defense was sick, last year they lost their best defensive players and the Pats did terrible, they still had Brady, but they didn't do too great.

[DarkMethod GL]

All of my family are patriots fans, besides me i'm and Eagles fan :).

[Serge]

:)

Are you from Cincy?

EDIT: Booo Patriots :p
Nope! I'm from PA, but I started watching football when I lived near Youngstown, OH. I sure as hell wasn't going to root for those crappy Browns, so a Bengals fan I are.

[KickAssPlaya]

Ugh, nothing worse than a Brady bandwagoner...

When the Pats won those super bowls, their defense was sick, last year they lost their best defensive players and the Pats did terrible, they still had Brady, but they didn't do too great.
I am not a Brady bandwagoner..I am just saying he is better then your average quarterback. Everyone knows defenses win championships. But I am saying that when Bledsoe got hurt and Brady took over the reigns in 2001, he had the same lineup Bledsoe had for atleast and year. And guess what Brady led them to a superbowl and won.

Edit: All of my family are patriots fans, besides me i'm and Eagles fan :).
You must of loved superbowl 39..and must of been fun at your house. :p

[DarkMethod GL]

Lol, I'm not sure what it was like at my house because I went to my friends house to watch it.

[Pieface1337]

Just did another NFL Fantasy Draft. One that I like, I will ignore the other ones I did.

QB D. Bledsoe
WR T. Holt
WR C. Chambers
WR Ro. Smith
RB T. Barber
RB T. Bell
TE J. Stevens

BN D. Jackson
BN D. Foster
BN B. Lloyd
BN D. Rhodes
BN E. Moulds
BN P. Rivers

K R. Lindell
D . Dallas Cowboys

[The Cheat]

Ever heard of Super Bowl XXXIX MVP, Deion Branch? And like the 3rd all-time leading reciever in Patriots history, Troy Brown? And plus the Pats have never really had a SUPER-STAR reciever, but yet they won 3 out of 4 years. ;)

Yeah, cause Brady had nothing to do with those 2-minute drill scores, no that is "crazy talk". The 2-minute scoring drives were all the Pats D.

Noob.

It wasn't any part of the Patriots,individually, that won them the super bowls, it was the whole TEAM, and sure having Vinateri didn't hurt.

*yawn* Who watches the NFL to see a team? We watch to see high scoreing, TO destroying, drama. Not "team play." If you by a kicker, in my mind you did not win.
Okay, the starter for the season got injured in the 3rd game, but yeah Bledsoe got hurt right before the super bowl. :rolleyes:

Okay, would you rather watch a game that is 28-7 or a game that is 17-17 with under two minutes to play?

Depends who is playing. I'd rather watch the blowout.
Doesn't matter what's exciting. Winning by a field goal shows me how good your European with the funny shoe is.

True, true.

RIngs, are the thing that the NFL players strive for. They want the RING. And to follow what Rogue said, Brady and Manning have the same amount of indefeated season: 0.

Tell that to Edgren (sp) James, 1/3 of the Colts triangle.
Rogue, whenever M. Harrison has the ball, he'll do whatever it takes to duck out of bounds or go down with the tackle. He doesn't fight for extra yards ever. He's soft.

Ya....all those all time records he as means he is soft all right. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Who dey! :cool:

I live near Cincy. What does that mean? Where did that come from?
Ugh, nothing worse than a Brady bandwagoner...

When the Pats won those super bowls, their defense was sick, last year they lost their best defensive players and the Pats did terrible, they still had Brady, but they didn't do too great.

Pats win on defense. Nothing more. Brady throwing over the middle for 3-5 does not make him great.
Nope! I'm from PA, but I started watching football when I lived near Youngstown, OH. I sure as hell wasn't going to root for those crappy Browns, so a Bengals fan I are.

I like the Browns......
I am not a Brady bandwagoner..I am just saying he is better then your average quarterback. Everyone knows defenses win championships. But I am saying that when Bledsoe got hurt and Brady took over the reigns in 2001, he had the same lineup Bledsoe had for atleast and year. And guess what Brady led them to a superbowl and won.

Edit:
You must of loved superbowl 39..and must of been fun at your house. :p

Ya......but that when the NFL stared to rig the playoffs. Brady is over-rated period.

[mantis33]

If it's Brown, flush it down. :cool:

[Pieface1337]

If its yellow, keep it mellow?

[KickAssPlaya]

*yawn* Who watches the NFL to see a team? We watch to see high scoreing, TO destroying, drama. Not "team play." If you by a kicker, in my mind you did not win.

Depends who is playing. I'd rather watch the blowout.

Tell that to Edgren (sp) James, 1/3 of the Colts triangle.

Ya......but that when the NFL stared to rig the playoffs. Brady is over-rated period.
Okay I guess blowouts or close games depend on the person, but in the playoffs/superbowl I would rather watch a close game. But in the regular season I would rather see a blow out.
And I don't get what you mean by telling Ederin (sp?) James, winning a ring is what he is striving for. He is a smart guy and left the Colts because he knew he was NEVER going to win one under Manning as a quarterback. Now don't get me wrong, Manning is a great quarterback..just he won't win the game that matters.
NFL didn't rig the playoffs until like last year... and if you are talking about the Wild Card game against the Raiders, you would see that what Brady did was the clutch rule. So that isn't rigged..

[Serge]

Ya......but that['s] when the NFL stared to rig the playoffs. Brady is over-rated period.

You think the NFL rigs the playoffs too?

I thought it seemed pretty obvious this year, giving the Seahawks such an easy season so that they would make it to the super bowl to get owned by the Steelers. Not many people would have watched a Cincy vs. Curalina Super Bowl, everyone wanted to watch the Bus win his first superbowl in his home town.

I have $50 that says before I die there will be a Disney movie called "The Wheels on the Bus: Super Bowl XL"

[KickAssPlaya]

You think the NFL rigs the playoffs too?

I thought it seemed pretty obvious this year, giving the Seahawks such an easy season so that they would make it to the super bowl to get owned by the Steelers. Not many people would have watched a Cincy vs. Curalina Super Bowl, everyone wanted to watch the Bus win his first superbowl in his home town.

I have $50 that says before I die there will be a Disney movie called "The Wheels on the Bus: Suber Bowl XL"

I didn't until this year. You know this year that it was rigged. C'mon the Steelers winning the SB in Detroit the Bus's hometown and his last year.
And I also agree with you about the movie. ;)

[DarkMethod GL]

Just did another NFL Fantasy Draft. One that I like, I will ignore the other ones I did.

QB D. Bledsoe
WR T. Holt
WR C. Chambers
WR Ro. Smith
RB T. Barber
RB T. Bell
TE J. Stevens

BN D. Jackson
BN D. Foster
BN B. Lloyd
BN D. Rhodes
BN E. Moulds
BN P. Rivers

K R. Lindell
D . Dallas Cowboys

I would probably start Darrell Jackson over Rod Smith, but thats just me. Unless thats a different Jackson.

[Chieck Kongo]

I would probably start Darrell Jackson over Rod Smith, but thats just me. Unless thats a different Jackson.

Yes its D.Jackson, seahawks.

I am deciding on whether to switch them.

[Anarchy_United]

Thank God we need a better WR.

I'd rather have Simeau Personally, but thats just me.

That's what I like to hear Serge. :)

For all of you Carson Palmer doubters:

How does 31-0 over Green Bay sound bitches?
Its the preseason, and Green Bay sucks balls.

[Chieck Kongo]

Stallworth is wayy better, bud.

[Anarchy_United]

1. Carson Palmer
2. Peyton Manning
3. Jake Delhomme
4. Jake Plummer
5. Matt Hasselbeck
6. Drew Bledsoe
7. Drew Brees
8. Ben Roethlisberger
9. Michael Vick
10. Trent Green

And that's assuming Brett Favre and Daunte Culpepper aren't as good as they used to be. That's 10(12) QB's I'd rather have than McNabb.
Woh, thats just incredible. Jake Plummer? BUST! Drew Bledsoe? Try not even starting by the end of the season, Ben R? He doesn't get the chance to score! Vick? He just sucks at Fantasy. To many sacks and low completion rate.

Brett Favre, no supporting cast even if he is good, same with Daunte.
My order:
1. Peyton Manning
2. Carson Palmer
3. Matt Hassleback
4. McNabb
5. Jake Delhomme
6. Trent Green
7. Drew Brees
8. Vick
9. Bledsoe
10. Big Ben

I know Stallworth is better, but we Simeau was a key for the Eagles defense. Stuffing the run. I'm not sure, Stall will probably help the offense a lot. Hmm, I think its just because I like Simeau's name.

[The Cheat]

Okay I guess blowouts or close games depend on the person, but in the playoffs/superbowl I would rather watch a close game. But in the regular season I would rather see a blow out.
And I don't get what you mean by telling Ederin (sp?) James, winning a ring is what he is striving for. He is a smart guy and left the Colts because he knew he was NEVER going to win one under Manning as a quarterback. Now don't get me wrong, Manning is a great quarterback..just he won't win the game that matters.
NFL didn't rig the playoffs until like last year... and if you are talking about the Wild Card game against the Raiders, you would see that what Brady did was the clutch rule. So that isn't rigged..

Spoken like a true Pats fan. :dry: :rolleyes:

James left for money. Period. He was tired of not being the big number one star. But according to you, he has a much better chance winning the SB in Arizona then he does with the Colts. Right....

You think the NFL rigs the playoffs too?

I thought it seemed pretty obvious this year, giving the Seahawks such an easy season so that they would make it to the super bowl to get owned by the Steelers. Not many people would have watched a Cincy vs. Curalina Super Bowl, everyone wanted to watch the Bus win his first superbowl in his home town.

I have $50 that says before I die there will be a Disney movie called "The Wheels on the Bus: Super Bowl XL"

Ya.....but I was mostly talking about how the playoffs were rigged for the Steelers.

I didn't until this year. You know this year that it was rigged. C'mon the Steelers winning the SB in Detroit the Bus's hometown and his last year.
And I also agree with you about the movie. ;)

For once we agree....

[KickAssPlaya]

Spoken like a true Pats fan. :dry: :rolleyes:
Duh I am a true Pats fan. :p
James left for money. Period. He was tired of not being the big number one star. But according to you, he has a much better chance winning the SB in Arizona then he does with the Colts. Right....
Actually I think Arizona won't do that bad this year..they had a rather good receiving core and with James as RB pretty good offense. And their main weakness was their defense which they worked on this offseason.
For once we agree....
Yup. :p

[The Cheat]

Duh I am a true Pats fan. :p

Actually I think Arizona won't do that bad this year..they had a rather good receiving core and with James as RB pretty good offense. And their main weakness was their defense which they worked on this offseason.

Yup. :p

I don't buy the hype. Arizona may win 1-3 more games but that is it. No big run for them this year.

As long as Pats, Ravens, or Steelers don't win the SB, I don't care who does.

Bush won't be as good as everyone thinks he is going to be.

[KickAssPlaya]

As long as Pats, Ravens, or Steelers don't win the SB, I don't care who does.
Guess you have something coming, Patriots are going to win it all. :p
Bush won't be as good as everyone thinks he is going to be.
I don't think he will have a phemoninal(sp?) year, but I also think that he will do pretty good. :)

[The Cheat]

Guess you have something coming, Patriots are going to win it all. :p

I don't think he will have a phemoninal(sp?) year, but I also think that he will do pretty good. :)

I know. The Pats have to win every couple of years.

Bush will do ok....but nothing great. Three or four years from now maybe....but not now.

[KickAssPlaya]

I know. The Pats have to win every couple of years.

Bush will do ok....but nothing great. Three or four years from now maybe....but not now.

Holly crap I agree with both your statements..kinda.
Patriots have to win 3 out of 4 years. Then take a bye-year? :p

EDIT: Just so you all don't think I started being a Pats fan after they won SB 36, I was a fan when they had Bledsoe, Curtis Martin, Terry Glenn, Saun Jefferson, Ben Coates, and Chris Slade with Bill Parcels as the head coach of their 5-11 season(s)..

[The Cheat]

Holly crap I agree with both your statements..kinda.
Patriots have to win 3 out of 4 years. Then take a bye-year? :p

They do it to make it look like it is not rigged.

[KickAssPlaya]

They do it to make it look like it is not rigged.
No they do it because they need a year to recuperate(sp?) after winning 3 out of 4. ;)

You really think the NFL rigged the Patriots to win?

[The Cheat]

No they do it because they need a year to recuperate(sp?) after winning 3 out of 4. ;)

You really think the NFL rigged the Patriots to win?

The league goes in cycles.....who was once bad is good and vice versa. This is nothing new.

[KickAssPlaya]

The league goes in cycles.....who was once bad is good and vice versa. This is nothing new.
Yeah, it is the way most sports work though..kind of like cycle of life.

[Coffin Fedder]

Well, the eagles blew there season. Had to Realese Koy Detmer, Vetrean, and Toad Pinkston so they could sign A.J. Feely:dry:

[KickAssPlaya]

Well, the eagles blew there season. Had to Realese Koy Detmer, Vetrean, and Toad Pinkston so they could sign A.J. Feely:dry:
Detmer was there backup QB right? If I am thinking of the right guy, he isn't that good..
Don't know who Vetrean is so no comment on him.
And Pinkston was a sissy. He would run routes over the middle then not catch a catchable ball because he would have gotten hit good.
But I guess it sucks for you Eagle fans. :p

[Coffin Fedder]

Lets talk about the Redskins. THERE PWNZORZ OF THE SEASON THIS YEAR!

[KickAssPlaya]

Lets talk about the Redskins. THERE PWNZORZ OF THE SEASON THIS YEAR!
More like pwnz0r3d of the season. Especially if they play like the played against the Pats. :p

[Coffin Fedder]

More like pwnz0r3d of the season. Especially if they play like the played against the Pats. :p

Wheres David Givens, Willie Mcginest, and Deion Branch?

[The Cheat]

Lets talk about the Redskins. THERE PWNZORZ OF THE SEASON THIS YEAR!


Portis got hurt. They are done.

Wheres David Givens, Willie Mcginest, and Deion Branch?

Givens=Titans? I think?

Mcginest=Browns

Branch=limbo

[Coffin Fedder]

True Portis got hurt, why do you guys always do this. Alright, lets talk about the Ravens because they suck now that they have McNair. I liked Boller a hell of a lot better because he kept on thorwing to everybody where McNair aims for Toad Heap and Derrick Mason.

[The Cheat]

True Portis got hurt, why do you guys always do this. Alright, lets talk about the Ravens because they suck now that they have McNair. I liked Boller a hell of a lot better because he kept on thorwing to everybody where McNair aims for Toad Heap and Derrick Mason.

But those are the only two guys who can score on that team....

[KickAssPlaya]

Portis got hurt. They are done.
I agree.
Givens=Titans? I think?

Mcginest=Browns

Branch=limbo
Yes Givens is with the Titans. McGinest is with Romeo Crommel(sp?) and the Browns. And Branch we are offering 6 million a year for three years..but we are hoping by putting him in free agency that he'll see noone will pay him more and he will come back to us. If not oh well, we have done rather well in the preseason thus far. And I know that preseason means crap, but when you team is rolling, it is rolling. :)

[Coffin Fedder]

But those are the only two guys who can score on that team....

You do got a point. The Redskins Have TJ Duckket though, we didn't get to see much of him with the Falcons last year. I mean sure he went 1 round 14th? if I remember correctly. Vick might have someone to throw to besides Dez white now that they have Ashley Lelie but he's overpayed and isin't all that good. I mean sure hell hands that can catch just about anything and impressive speed?

Alright, Colts lost 3 of there preseason games? I don't think there gonna go far with Edgrin James. Whos the best team in the leauge this year guys?

[The Cheat]

I agree.

Yes Givens is with the Titans. McGinest is with Romeo Crommel(sp?) and the Browns. And Branch we are offering 6 million a year for three years..but we are hoping by putting him in free agency that he'll see noone will pay him more and he will come back to us. If not oh well, we have done rather well in the preseason thus far. And I know that preseason means crap, but when you team is rolling, it is rolling. :)

Branch will be back. He has too. No one else would take him.

Rolling? Remember how many games the Colts won in a row last year? 13. Number of preseaon wins? zero.

Preseaon means crap. I hate it.

[Serge]

Arizona could make the playoffs this year. Other than the Panthers the NFC is weak sauce.

My picks =

AFC
North: Bengals
West: Chiefs
East: Fins
South: Colts
Wildcard: Jags, Broncos

NFC
North: Da Bears
West: Seahawks (this division is a joke...)
East: 'Skins
South: Panthers
Wildcard: Falcons, Giants

[Chieck Kongo]

AFC
East: NE
North: Cin
South: Jak
West: Den/Oak

NFC
East: Dal
North: Min
South: Car
West: Sea

[Anarchy_United]

AFC
North: Browns
West: Chargers
East: Dolphins
South: Colts
WildCard: Jags/Bengals

NFC
North: Bears
West: Seahawks
East: Eagles
South: Panthers
Wildcard:Giants/Bucs

[mantis33]

AFC
North: Browns
West: Chargers
East: Dolphins
South: Colts
WildCard: Jags/Bengals

NFC
North: Bears
West: Seahawks
East: Eagles
South: Panthers
Wildcard:Giants/Bucs

Browns? Hahahahahaha. LMAO! :)

[KickAssPlaya]

I don't know why you noobs think the Fins will win the division over the Patriots..you must be on drugs. :p

[The Cheat]

Browns? Hahahahahaha. LMAO! :)

Come on they are not that bad. They are getting better all the time. Remember when people used to say "the Bengals? HAHAHAHAHAHA"

Everything goes in cycles.

Why can't Atlanta win?

[mantis33]

Come on they are not that bad. They are getting better all the time. Remember when people used to say "the Bengals? HAHAHAHAHAHA"

Everything goes in cycles.

Why can't Atlanta win?

Blasphemy!

[The Cheat]

Browns? Hahahahahaha. LMAO! :)

Blasphemy!

That is what it is called when people don't want to accept the truth.

[Anarchy_United]

Browns? Hahahahahaha. LMAO! :)

You heard it here.

[Serge]

I don't know why you noobs think the Fins will win the division over the Patriots..you must be on drugs. :p
'cause the Pats suck.

[Death Shot]

Because the Pats lost there defense and will probably lose Deion Branch ;).

Plus Ronnie Brown, Daunte Culpepper, and Chris Chambers.

And a pretty damn good defense.

[KickAssPlaya]

Because the Pats lost there defense and will probably lose Deion Branch ;).

Plus Ronnie Brown, Daunte Culpepper, and Chris Chambers.

And a pretty damn good defense.
We lost our defense? I think you are not a fan or something..we lost Willie McGinest, granted he is a good football player and I used to love him as a Pat..he was getting old. =\ And I highly doubt we lose Branch, he will come back when he realizes that we are offering him good money. ;)

[Chieck Kongo]

What are everyones 5 fav. teams?

1. Panthers
2. Bengals
3. Broncos
4. Cowboys
5. Giants/Saints/Dolphins.

[Serge]

What are everyones 5 fav. teams?

1. Panthers
2. Bengals
3. Broncos
4. Cowboys
5. Giants/Saints/Dolphins.
_FIVE_ favorite teams? and you have seven? You can't have that many favorite teams...

I have my favorite team, and my NFC team. (Falcons).

[The Cheat]

We lost our defense? I think you are not a fan or something..we lost Willie McGinest, granted he is a good football player and I used to love him as a Pat..he was getting old. =\ And I highly doubt we lose Branch, he will come back when he realizes that we are offering him good money. ;)


*sigh* Branch was never going to leave. It was all a shame. He wanted more money, Pats said no. He looked around saw no one wanted him so he will come back....exactly as he planned.
_FIVE_ favorite teams? and you have seven? You can't have that many favorite teams...

I have my favorite team, and my NFC team. (Falcons).

It's always dirty in Hot Lanta. Good team. :cool:

[KickAssPlaya]

If you don't know who my favorite team is now, you should get backhanded.. ;)

Patriots you noobs! Although I have to say I don't mind the Falcons. So I guess favorite AFC team = Patriots, and favorite NFC team = Falcons. :)

[Coffin Fedder]

_FIVE_ favorite teams? and you have seven? You can't have that many favorite teams...

I have my favorite team, and my NFC team. (Falcons).

We are offically brothers. Go Falcons.

[Chieck Kongo]

_FIVE_ favorite teams? and you have seven? You can't have that many favorite teams...

I have my favorite team, and my NFC team. (Falcons).

Favourite was a bad word to use.

Lets substitute it with likeable.

:)

[Spirit_Monger]

AFC
North: Browns

How do you come up with the Browns? Seriously. Sure they are getting better, but so is everyone else in their division.

It should be a decent competition though this year. The Bengals, Ravnes, and Steelers all have a chance.

Im going to have to say they Bengals will win it though.
Plus they got screwed last year. Im still pissed about that...

[KickAssPlaya]

How do you come up with the Browns? Seriously. Sure they are getting better, but so is everyone else in their division.

It should be a decent competition though this year. The Bengals, Ravnes, and Steelers all have a chance.

Im going to have to say they Bengals will win it though.
Plus they got screwed last year. Im still pissed about that...
Every team but the Steelers got screwed last year. :p

Life sucks then you move on. ;)

[Spirit_Monger]

Im still having some trouble with the "moving on" part of this. :(

Do you know where I can get some help?

[mantis33]

No one got screwed worse than Cincy last year. :dry:

[The Cheat]

How do you come up with the Browns? Seriously. Sure they are getting better, but so is everyone else in their division.

It should be a decent competition though this year. The Bengals, Ravnes, and Steelers all have a chance.

Im going to have to say they Bengals will win it though.
Plus they got screwed last year. Im still pissed about that...

Who knows? That is going to be a good division this year.
Every team but the Steelers got screwed last year. :p

Life sucks then you move on. ;)

Duh. Playoffs were rigged. Everyone knew that.
Im still having some trouble with the "moving on" part of this. :(

Do you know where I can get some help?


Yes. Go to your bathroom. Find all the pills you can. Take them all. Go to sleep.

Simple.

[KickAssPlaya]

Im still having some trouble with the "moving on" part of this. :(

Do you know where I can get some help?
Uh, no? :(

[DarkMethod GL]

Eagles last preseason game is today. I want to see Donte play for a little and see how he does.

[KickAssPlaya]

Eagles last preseason game is today. I want to see Donte play for a little and see how he does.
Uh, who is Donte? :confused:

[Chieck Kongo]

...

Stallworth.

[Serge]

Uh, who is Donte? :confused:
Donte Stallworth, he's on the Iggles now.

[KickAssPlaya]

Donte Stallworth, he's on the Iggles now.
Ah, right. I knew that.. >.<

Sorry, rather tired and POed from my game tonight. =\

[DarkMethod GL]

Oh well they didn't let Donte play, but Aj Feely was looking pretty good when he was playing.

[mantis33]

Carson > j00!

[DarkMethod GL]

Yea, you have to admit that Palmer did amazing in the 2 games that he played. He threw for 4 touchdowns.

[Blexican]

I just made userbars for every team (except redskins for now).

They are on my first post of this thread. hope everyone likes them.:bigsmile:

[_Thunder_]

They look good :allok:

[The Cheat]

Ok everyone.....season starts this week. Time to make your Super Bowl Picks.

[_Thunder_]

Panthers are going. Best def. Steve Smith ,keyshawn johnson, Jake delomme.Sp?

And the steelers might be there again. O and NYG yes.. the nyg

Top 3 def. Eli manning, tiki barber, jeremy shockey.

[DarkMethod GL]

I agree that the Panthers have a good shot, but i'm rooting for the Eagles!

[Anarchy_United]

Colts vs. Eagles

[DarkMethod GL]

Also thanks for the userbars Blex.

[_Thunder_]

Colts vs. Eagles

Im ok with the colts.. but why the eagles? they have crap except for mcnabb and mabey westbrook...

[DarkMethod GL]

The Eagles Defense is good, they have a good secondary, with an amazing D line and good linebackers. Also they helped out there recieving core by trading for Donte Stallsworth.

[_Thunder_]

ok but not good enough to stand up to offences like NYG and Carolina and many others.

[EleMENTAL]

veryone knows chargers are going to pwn EVERYONE!

[mantis33]

veryone knows chargers are going to pwn EVERYONE!

I laughed at this for a good 5 minutes. :)

[_Thunder_]

I laughed at this for a good 5 minutes. :)

WHAT?? Antonio gates? Torry Holt? Are you kidding me?

[DarkMethod GL]

Holt?

[mantis33]

Holt?

Who goes there? :p

[TTitan44]

Bengals suck!

Take that S_M!:p