Suicide Games

[Cuathon]

agh! another scourge on the face of TAO. this is the most stupid style of game yet invented by the n00bs.
what you do is play dropless grey and see who can kill all but one of their units the fastest. when one side is down to one unit, the opponent must surrender.

anyone else hate the idiocy destroying this game?

[crimson leader]

uhhhh no

[Forest_Archer]

I don't intend on playing one.

[EmelGreenLeafer]

F U Cuathon :p But your still shexy.

[Daemon Bloodmaw]

They sound pretty retarded.

Go Tankball! :cool:

[mantis33]

Suicide games are retarded. I am single-handedly trying to destroy them at least on GL because now that I've played a couple (and lost on a coin flip), everyone knows my set, which is as perfect as it can get. So if everyone knows the perfect set, then it's a 50/50 chance. And if you wanted to play a game where you have a 50/50 chance, then you would just flip a coin.

TAO is meant to be strategic, not a coin flip. But unluckily for me, the 2 games I've played, the coin didn't flip my way. :( But it's worth it as long as I kill these God awful games.

[Forest_Archer]

F U Cuathon :p But your still shexy.

You're special.

[plusminus]

Suicide games are completely without strategy. It would be one thing to try to kill all your units first. But the fact that you're not allowed to do a thing to your opponent makes them basically a weird sort of race. NOT FUN.

[DarkMethod GL]

Never tried a suicide game before and I probably never will.

[Magician]

Notice how it's only Osama standing up for Suicide Games. Probably coz he's the only active player :dry:

[The Coder]

thats the most retarded thing ever. And its so good for those who want to gain stats.

Noob: "Wanna suicide game?"
Codez: "Sure" *watches noob kill all his units*
Noob: "I Win! Surrender!"
Codez: "Thanks for making my job a lot easier, noob. Thanks for the stats"

[mantis33]

Notice how it's only Osama standing up for Suicide Games. Probably coz he's the only active player :dry:
No, EGL is just as much of a noob when it comes to these games. He worships them as well. :p

[Cuathon]

i shoulda made this public. then i could see who the other three imbeciles who think suicides are fun are. im very tempted to just let the n00b kill their guys and then take the stats.

[Sluff]

Wow, never heard of it.

Sounds pretty lame, though.

[lthlinjction]

New rules!

Whomever gets to 1 unit first, has to kill themselves.

Now it's a real suicide game.

[Cuathon]

i like these new rules :)
okay suicide players. get going!

[crimson leader]

Magician, if these games suk so much, why u always accept my offers, and maybe ur just sour u lose 3 in a row to me ;)

[EmelGreenLeafer]

Maybe we play suicide cause we are tired of freestyles, turtle, or rushes. Don't make a thread about complaining that it sucks, cause if you don't like it, why should we care?. Its like me since i don't like turtles, making a '' Turtle Sucks '' Thread, just because i don't like it. Hope this thread closes soon cause its just plain spam.

[Cuathon]

but in trhis style its a single coin flip. you have real skill man. why would you pay 5$ to flip a freaking coin? i see brains came with that skilll. :)>

[Lonely Tylenol]

I played two of these with Duffman once. He's a machine.

The actual objective is to "lose" the game by damaging your own units with your attacks and getting rid of all units first; however, you can't attack unless that attack would deal damage to an enemy unit as well, so, say, if you wanted to damage 3 of your units with a Pyromancer, you can't do it unless an enemy unit gets damaged as well.

And if they're not playing that type of suicide, screw 'em.

[Cuathon]

im pretty sure they arent.

[lthlinjction]

No, they definately arn't.

They don't damage each others units.

And EGL, who is this "we"? There is no we. You and Osama are really the only ones I've seen play suicide. Now go kill yourself.

[plusminus]

I played two of these with Duffman once. He's a machine.

The actual objective is to "lose" the game by damaging your own units with your attacks and getting rid of all units first; however, you can't attack unless that attack would deal damage to an enemy unit as well, so, say, if you wanted to damage 3 of your units with a Pyromancer, you can't do it unless an enemy unit gets damaged as well.

And if they're not playing that type of suicide, screw 'em.
That would be a thousand times more fun than what's going on here.
No, with these current suicide games, you are not allowed to interfere in any way with the other person's units. You can work out the fastest strategy beforehand and if it is indeed faster than your opponents', you win.

[Sluff]

I played two of these with Duffman once. He's a machine.

The actual objective is to "lose" the game by damaging your own units with your attacks and getting rid of all units first; however, you can't attack unless that attack would deal damage to an enemy unit as well, so, say, if you wanted to damage 3 of your units with a Pyromancer, you can't do it unless an enemy unit gets damaged as well.

And if they're not playing that type of suicide, screw 'em.

That actually sounds fun. :)

[EmelGreenLeafer]

No, they definately arn't.

They don't damage each others units.

And EGL, who is this "we"? There is no we. You and Osama are really the only ones I've seen play suicide. Now go kill yourself.
This ''we'' doesn't include you, only players who play suicide, I guess your to stupid to realise that.

[lthlinjction]

This ''we'' doesn't include you, only players who play suicide, I guess your to stupid to realise that.
Whom does the "we" include then? A dumbass and Osama?

[Cows Go Moo]

There no skill in Suicide Games. Just reatardedness. Dumbass nubs. Should be banned.

[Merdoc.]

Oh, thats how the game works. How stupid. I get alot of people asking me for those games. All I know is Turt, Freestyle, and Rush. ;)

[CRX687]

agh! another scourge on the face of TAO. this is the most stupid style of game yet invented by the n00bs.
what you do is play dropless grey and see who can kill all but one of their units the fastest. when one side is down to one unit, the opponent must surrender.

anyone else hate the idiocy destroying this game?

just some kids making up their own rules to make the game funner for them... same principle as turtle,monkus turtle, alpha turtle, rush, bomb, no-busher, no DSM (you get the point) games.:p

if you dont' like it, no need to bash it.

If the form is restricted to defualt only, this could actually take a lot of strategy. These games would be close, but in the end, I'm sure there are tactics that will determine a winner.

i'll be sure to look this up when I get a decent connection ;)

*slaps Cuathon*
When I find a way to log on, thou shalt be pwned at suicide.

[EmelGreenLeafer]

just some kids making up their own rules to make the game funner for them... same principle as turtle,monkus turtle, alpha turtle, rush, bomb, no-busher, no DSM (you get the point) games.:p

if you dont' like it, no need to bash it.

If the form is restricted to defualt only, this could actually take a lot of strategy. These games would be close, but in the end, I'm sure there are tactics that will determine a winner.

i'll be sure to look this up when I get a decent connection ;)
YOU
ARE
MY
GOD!

[Cuathon]

you realize it takes like a day of playing suicide to making the gameinto a coin flip CRX? dont make me pwn you in the intellgent styles of tao...

[EmelGreenLeafer]

Aw, Cuathon is jealous of crx's success.

[Cows Go Moo]

just some kids making up their own rules to make the game funner for them... same principle as turtle,monkus turtle, alpha turtle, rush, bomb, no-busher, no DSM (you get the point) games.:p

if you dont' like it, no need to bash it.

If the form is restricted to defualt only, this could actually take a lot of strategy. These games would be close, but in the end, I'm sure there are tactics that will determine a winner.

i'll be sure to look this up when I get a decent connection ;)

*slaps Cuathon*
When I find a way to log on, thou shalt be pwned at suicide. Its still completely pointless why dont we just trash our units and see who does it first!(sarcasm) Its Dumb Whoever made this up is obviously i nub and i dont like that person. TAO is turned nubish. Jeez Nubs these days.

[CRX687]

you realize it takes like a day of playing suicide to making the gameinto a coin flip CRX? dont make me pwn you in the intellgent styles of tao...

How would you know that without ever trying it yourself?

When two people with access to the same resources compete to reach a common goal under the same rules, there will always be strategy involved.

The whole point of these first-turn wait rules was to take away the first turn advantage.

Its still completely pointless why dont we just trash our units and see who does it first!(sarcasm) Its Dumb Whoever made this up is obviously i nub and i dont like that person. TAO is turned nubish. Jeez Nubs these days.

It's funny beacuse people said the exact same thing about rush forms when busher first came out, but no one was able to give a good explanation as to why certain players were able to win consistently.

Why don't you just play a few of these games against someone who's experienced at it and see if the winner is truely whoever gets first turn?

[lthlinjction]

Its still completely pointless why dont we just trash our units and see who does it first!(sarcasm) Its Dumb Whoever made this up is obviously i nub and i dont like that person. TAO is turned nubish. Jeez Nubs these days.
Haha, why is everything he says so funny?

[Cows Go Moo]

Haha, why is everything he says so funny? Sarcasm? Or just saying im funny?

[Cuathon]

i did try a bit on rev crx. but any game inwhich your opponent doesnt react with you has a perfect solution.

[lthlinjction]

Sarcasm? Or just saying im funny?
A little bit of both..

[Cows Go Moo]

:rolleyes: A little bit of both.. Thanks for the 400 rep :confused:

[CRX687]

i did try a bit on rev crx. but any game inwhich your opponent doesnt react with you has a perfect solution.

Then make them react. What happens when you strategically advance your units into his midst, or kill off his area-damaging units in the beginning? If that advantageous or disadvantageous?

What about when you move your scout into his midst so his witch would have to blast him to damage his other units?

If you paralyze his units, for even threaten to, doesn't he have to waste a turn (or more) damaging one of your units for you? And if you're really good, you'd paralyze his range, while damaging your units while blocking his... chanty skillz?

Okay, default may not be the best way for suicide games to work, but I see potential in this. As long as both players have to work with the same starting form. Or perhaps if furgons are involved...

Anyway, I'm just arguing for the sake of not calling something stupid without giving it a chance... I'm sure the people who like this style of play are mentally capable of knowing whether or not this game is a "coin flip".

[lthlinjction]

If I laugh at something... someone is getting repped.

Doesn't happen much though. :dry:

[Cows Go Moo]

If I laugh at something... someone is getting repped.

Doesn't happen much though. :dry: Hehe im funny :p

[Cuathon]

well, i dont think you cna interfere with any of your opponents moves at all. and EGL plays this style. how challenging can it be?

[mantis33]

YOU
ARE
MY
GOD!
YOU ARE MY TOILET!

Now stand still while I shit on your head.

[BaxVarlet]

The stupid thing about suicide games is that they don't need to be played.

Player1: I can kill all but one of my units in 7 moves!
Player2: Damn, my setup requires 8 moves, you win.

Ooo...no need for a game at all!

[CRX687]

well, i dont think you cna interfere with any of your opponents moves at all.

well, if that's the case, then it really is kinda dumb.

and EGL plays this style. how challenging can it be?

point taken.

I'll shut up now. But I still think it'll be fun to changing the win condition to having one unit left.

[Lonely Tylenol]

That would be a thousand times more fun than what's going on here.

That actually sounds fun. :)

Loads of fun, and Duff tooled us all at it. That was back when he was in BG. Good times.

I played two games with him, the first one was one-sided, and the second LOOKED close, but I really got outplayed (I had a Scout, Knight and Cleric in the end, and the rule is if you can hit your enemies' unit, you have to; a Scout can hit virtually anything without damaging ally units, so in the end I couldn't win).

EGL - Have you and your Suicide friends ever considered playing Suicide this way? It might introduce a deeper level of strategy to losing the game. :smile2:

[Soda]

Cuath pwnz0rz j00!

[~SlayeR~]

Cuath pwnz0rz j00!
Agreed.

[Cows Go Moo]

If you guys find out who amde this tell me iM gonna hunt them down and Own em!

[Sluff]

If you guys find out who amde this tell me iM gonna hunt them down and Own em!

Yes, I'm sure...

[Enjoi]

Suicides are :bad:

The reason why I dont play them is because my units would not perform well in a meaningful battle after killing them. :rolleyes:

[steve12]

If you guys find out who amde this tell me iM gonna hunt them down and Own em!

I know who invented the suicide games, but I won't tell for his safety.

[mantis33]

I know who invented the suicide games, but I won't tell for his safety.
EGL did I would imagine. In all of his nubliness.

[Cows Go Moo]

EGL did I would imagine. In all of his nubliness. Lol you sure?

[Dragoen Link]

Cows don't go moo :rolleyes: That's only in fairy tales! :huh:

[Dresicos]

It is easy stats but i does ruin the purpose of the game lol sorry osama

[steve12]

EGL did I would imagine. In all of his nubliness.

No Mantis... you would be surprised when you hear who did...
And DL, where did you come from?

[Cuathon]

tell me so i can chop their head off..

[-57-]

OK... here is why these games suck... because all you need is 5 clerics 2 DMW's and a LW... tada, there you have it 3 turns... wow, a whole lot of strategy went into that

[allstarGL]

Some noob jumped me on rev and said SUICIDE GAME! Together we killed his units in about 4 turns. :D

[Cuathon]

your supposed to use dropless grey or something.

[Dresicos]

there are differnt ways to suicide i guess i have seen everything from dropless grey to no humans or wards it gets kinda funky

[CRX687]

OK... here is why these games suck... because all you need is 5 clerics 2 DMW's and a LW... tada, there you have it 3 turns... wow, a whole lot of strategy went into that

wouldn't it be easier to just use 2 clerics and a witch?

[Sodamoeba]

This gamestyle sounds boring. Has anyone said that yet?

[Cuathon]

you have to use 10 units. dropless.

[shatterstar]

this idea is stupider than yugioh. (LT's sound's interesting tho).

[CRX687]

OK... here is why these games suck... because all you need is 5 clerics 2 DMW's and a LW... tada, there you have it 3 turns... wow, a whole lot of strategy went into that

you have to use 10 units. dropless.

There we go.


anyway, off to dofus.

[soundwave]

o this has to be the biggest waste of time. i meen honestly who the hell is going to sit there and kill your own units. i would like to meet the stupid @$$ who came up with this game type

[Dresicos]

find Cata cuz he uses it the most

[Cows Go Moo]

It would be easy to kill your self all you need is 9 clerics and a witch =P

[Cuathon]

dropless...

[Lucien Lachance]

agh! another scourge on the face of TAO. this is the most stupid style of game yet invented by the n00bs.
what you do is play dropless grey and see who can kill all but one of their units the fastest. when one side is down to one unit, the opponent must surrender.

anyone else hate the idiocy destroying this game?


Why not just kill their last unit. lol Take their oh so important stats. Make them cry!

[Dresicos]

actually that wouldnt be to bad.......I was talking to uni the other day and she did say there are no rules when playing the game so yeah killing them would just be ok actually

[Cuathon]

well its legal, but if you agree to a certain game type, you should actually play it.

[dave04]

Me and Sluff played this style the other day but drops were allowed and you could take out the other units (to say stop an ass bomb). Actually was really good fun :cool:

[Cuathon]

yes, because it involves interaction. whereas the style i hate involves no player interaction at all. and drops change it as well.

[†Nuke'em†]

I enjoy suicide games, though i play with no restrictions except for the 10 unit limit. You may use the units you want and attack or barriar (for that matter) your opponents units. Defeating a barriar ward set does require strategy. I began playing these games because i decieded that i needed a change of pace in games. I also almost always play inter-clan if i can (again just for fun) so nobody needs to worry about stats.

[monkus]

Because there's pretty much no interaction, we can play these games in the theoretical. What's the least amount of turns you can do it in?

[monkus]

Suicide games are retarded. I am single-handedly trying to destroy them at least on GL because now that I've played a couple (and lost on a coin flip), everyone knows my set, which is as perfect as it can get. So if everyone knows the perfect set, then it's a 50/50 chance. And if you wanted to play a game where you have a 50/50 chance, then you would just flip a coin.

TAO is meant to be strategic, not a coin flip. But unluckily for me, the 2 games I've played, the coin didn't flip my way. :( But it's worth it as long as I kill these God awful games.

Do you finish in 3 moves? I just got a dropless form that finishes in 3.

[some1udontknow]

Do you finish in 3 moves? I just got a dropless form that finishes in 3.

Wow

:eek:

*The power of the all knowing Monkus*

[bludhoundz]

Lemme guess.

It uses witch, pyro and assassin bomb.

And it has only 1 knight, with LW and BW.

[Match Strike]

Why do you care so much what they want to play?

EDIT: It's also impossible to do in under three moves, even with gold units. S_G and I determined this.

[Smiley_Girl]

That's true, I made a challenge in the General Strategy forum for anyone who's up to it. :)