A Confession: The Real Me

[Swartzstrom]

This is exactly what I just sent to northwind in a PM he sent me.

Swartz,

I don't know why I'm bothering to write this, but here it is anyway.

I've generally enjoyed your presence on this forum. You can be funny and witty and interesting.

However your recent admission that you don't care if you hurt people is too much for me. I'd like to believe that your comments were just some internet BS and you don't really mean them. Not knowing you, I can't tell the difference.

I will say, however, that hurting and taking advantage of others - others who are struggling to get through life just like you are - is neither cool nor remotely excusable.

It's weird because, though I don't know you from Adam, I find myself profoundly disappointed to hear your recent comments. Hopefully some day you'll grow up enough to realize that we're all in this together. Until that happens (and until you disavow hurting others for your gain), I guess I'm done dealing with you. :(

Good luck and I honestly hope you get there.

-NW

And I responded with:

It's straight internet BS, Northwind. Every bit of it. The most gang-banging I've ever done in life was shooting some drug dealers for killing my best friend right in front of me. The most I've ever stolen was a dollar for tax when bying a CD Player...and that was an accident.

I don't want anyone to know the real me, Northwind. At all. I'm too scared of who I am. I'm too scared of how life would take advantage of my kindness. Too many have taken advantage of me already, and I want it to stop. So I go wandering around the Internet, throwing up these facades of who I am not, in the hopes that the people who read what I stick there will believe it, and think higher of me.

Failure isn't what scares me at all. It's success that gets me. Being successful scares the hell out of me, you know? I don't know what I'm going to do to be successful. I don't have anything or anyone to live or die for. I don't want to know what I want to do with my life, and I'm a senior in high school! I sit in the middle of the supreme darkness my cluelessness represents, covered by a blanket which hides the light outside. I kick and scream, tugging at the blanket, to remove it, so I can see clearly, but no matter how much I struggle, I can't remove that blanket. I'm afraid that for the rest of my life, I'm going to be lost.

So I pin all of my flaws and weaknesses on other people. If I were to make a metaphor, it would be...hmm...I would sit in the corner of the library; not on a desk or table, but actually on the floor in the corner, and read the same book repeatedly, instead of getting up and going to the far side of the library to obtain a different book. I'm that scared of life. I boast about these stories, but anyone who pays attention to how I act outside of those types of discussions would be able to tell easily that it is not true. I'm not even sure you believe the new facade I've tried to hide behind.

There you go, Northwind. That's me. Post it if you want to.

As a matter of fact, I'll post it myself.

I don't really know what to say, other than my apologies for lying to all of you. I love TAO, I just didn't want any of you to see the real me.

[Kreator]

You're forgiven... I think. I don't care what you are, I think you're cool anyway.

[Wizzy`]

k...

[Riathmus]

Doesn't matter to me. You're still a really cool guy who introduced me to internet RPing. (Which Wizzy still hates)

[mantis33]

It's all good. :cool:

[Jeffery]

And in this case, your words speak louder than what they say. You DO try WAY to hard to come off harder than you are. You;ve proven that time and time again by bragging far beyond what your reality is.
If your reality was anywhere near as hard as you've tried to make it over the yeras there is no way you'd be in here dicking around with a game and forums. Sorry, been there done that. If your life was as bad as you brag, this would be the last place you'd be.
You know it, I know it, everyone else here knows it.

And I probably appreciate this "confession" more than anyone here Swartz. You and I have fought and discussed WAY too many things for what you claimed to be to have been true. I've talked with you privately on several occasions after we've fought. And during those times saw farther into "you" than I think you even realise.
That is why I balked whenever you started putting up the wangsta front.

That and a little old saying that says "It takes one to know one." ANd no offense, you ain;t no young me.

[Buster]

Man... I saw this:

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2622/screenhunter1br4.gif

and it got my hopes up.. =D

[Jeffery]

Man... I saw this:

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2622/screenhunter1br4.gif

and it got my hopes up.. =D
I have nothing to really confess. I have told just about all the major points of my life at one time or another. I'm a nicegenerallyconceitedkindenemyassholefriend who will either threaten to kill you or give you the shirt off my back. Or both.

[Buster]

...meh I was just trying to make a funny.... T_T

[Liquid Swordsman]

hahahahahahahhahaha


That's the stupidest thing I've ever read. Did you seriously just say you've shot someone? ahhahahahahahahaha

Your LAME. Stop trying to get attention on an online forum because your a bitch in real life.

[russian]

That's the stupidest thing I've ever read. Did you seriously just say you've shot someone?


That was very fooking lame to say he shot some one. Not only because I don't believe him, but also because he said it inside of a post that was supposed to be some kind of appology for being a fake lamer.

[Frozen Toast]

The real me? First question is : Who are you?, But the subject at hand is you affect people and there nothing you can do, To make it right, Unless you understand what you did wrong. Thats the only way you can be the real you

[Glamdring]

hahahahahahahhahaha


That's the stupidest thing I've ever read. Did you seriously just say you've shot someone? ahhahahahahahahaha

Your LAME. Stop trying to get attention on an online forum because your a bitch in real life.

That was very fooking lame to say he shot some one. Not only because I don't believe him, but also because he said it inside of a post that was supposed to be some kind of appology for being a fake lamer.

Mm. You guys are special. That's all I've got to say.

[inked]

Glamdring shot me in the heart.

[Jeffery]

Glamdring shot me in the heart.
PSST, was that Glam or was it Realist?

[mantis33]

That was very fooking lame to say he shot some one. Not only because I don't believe him, but also because he said it inside of a post that was supposed to be some kind of appology for being a fake lamer.

I found that to be funny too, but I really don't even care that he's lieing about that. :p

[Grocery Legs]

PSST, was that Glam or was it Realist?
I thought realist was a guy...

[Jeffery]

I thought realist was a guy...
I bet you think Glam is a girl too?

[russian]

I found that to be funny too, but I really don't even care that he's lieing about that. :p

I know, its too much energy to even care about something so lame.

[Grocery Legs]

I bet you think Glam is a girl too?
:| see now I'm just very confused. Are Glam and Realist the same person or something?

[Jeffery]

I know, its too much energy to even care about something so lame.
If you didn;t care, you wouldn;t have posted.
:| see now I'm just very confused. Are Glam and Realist the same person or something?

You didn;t know that? :confused:

[Ignition]

it's ok Swartz were here for you... after all thats the good thing about the net. you can get away from it all and be a differnt person for a while

Oh...jeff

[inked]

PSST, was that Glam or was it Realist?

I don't know, but you broke my heart.
I love you Jeffery [and Glamdring, and xyxaxyz2].

[Matt 34.5]

I respected you as a noobish TAOer, only 'smarter than the average bear'. Now not so much. Only person I both concidered noobish in personality but still liked and respected... Guess I didn't know you too well!

And Northwind... awwwe, thats the sweetest PM ever. :)

[Swartzstrom]

Liquid, shut up.
I'm apologizing to everyone for pretending to be so many things I wasn't.
Killing those people made me a murderer.
I cannot justify that by saying they killed my best friend.
I shouldn't have lost my temper.
If there is one thing in Warcow's TAO Phone Book that actually applies to me in real life, it's about me being "...prone to unpredictable moments of instability."

[inked]

lol.
In Warcows Phonebook I am a gender switching Schizophrenic.

Oh. Nevermind.

-Ashley

[Liquid Swordsman]

Liquid, shut up.
I'm apologizing to everyone for pretending to be so many things I wasn't.
Killing those people made me a murderer.
I cannot justify that by saying they killed my best friend.
I shouldn't have lost my temper.
If there is one thing in Warcow's TAO Phone Book that actually applies to me in real life, it's about me being "...prone to unpredictable moments of instability."

Give it a break man, we can all tell your about as hard as my 11 year old sister :rolleyes:

[Serge]

Which swartz typed in the normal-sized green text? I liked that one best.

[Ignition]

Which swartz typed in the normal-sized green text? I liked that one best.
Agreed

[Liquid Swordsman]

Too bad I've already stated that I never thought I was "hard". ~Swartzstrom, the Philosopher


hahaha, go back to writing fantasy stories gangstaaaaa.

[Serge]

I boast about these stories, but anyone who pays attention to how I act outside of those types of discussions would be able to tell easily that it is not true

I see, you make up stories to hide behind.

The most gang-banging I've ever done in life was shooting some drug dealers for killing my best friend right in front of me.

[Swartzstrom]

...

[Liquid Swordsman]

hahahahaha your making a complete idiot out of yourself. just give up!

[Swartzstrom]

Liquid, I'm going to turn the other cheek, just because I don't want to get banned for exploding on someone for the um-teenth time.

[inked]

I am the original black storm.

I claim the title in Swatz's lack of advertising it.
kthnx.

[Serge]

I shot the sheriff, but I did not shoot those drug dealers.

[Swartzstrom]

I shot the sheriff, but I did not shoot those drug dealers.

I'm turning the other cheek to you as well, Serge, because you're really about to trip a nerve.

And inked, I've been advertising myself as The Original Black Storm for at least a year and a half. Probably more.

[inked]

I shot the sheriff, but I did not shoot those drug dealers.

Yeah! All around in my home town,
They're tryin' to track me down;
They say they want to bring me in guilty
For the killing of a dealer;
But I am a phony- Yeah! just like bologna.


LIAR! YOU ARE A PHONY!
I claimed that title when you had let your guard down!
You had something about your IP adress!
Mine now!

[Glamdring]

Liquid, shut your trap before I ban you for a day. You're being a moron.

[Kreator]

Liquid, shut your trap before I ban you for a day. You're being a moron.

What else is new?

[Serge]

Liquid, shut your trap before I ban you for a day. You're being a moron.
>.<

[bludhoundz]

I think that Swartz hasn't done anything horribly bad to any of us, and I see no reason that people are provoking him for seemingly no reason.

He apologized, and not only was that big of him, but he didn't really hurt any of us, I don't see why he's getting hell just because he is saying he shot someone. Fine.. people are ALWAYS innocent citizens - you believe them if they say they are, and you don't believe when they say they've done anything above the norm.

Besides..that information is almost completely irrelevant to the thread (not 100%), so why is he being called out on it? It's not like he's bragging about it, he seems more ashamed of it than anything.

[Liquid Swordsman]

Liquid, shut your trap before I ban you for a day. You're being a moron.

Ban me for what? Pointing out his stupidity? I'm sure if I was talking to someone you didn't like you wouldn't care.

[Glamdring]

Ban me for what? Pointing out his stupidity? I'm sure if I was talking to someone you didn't like you wouldn't care.
Totally unnecessary provokation on a sensitive matter.

And my opinion of Swartzstrom has generally been indifferent up until this point. If anything I have had a negative bias towards him because I (probably very wrongly) associate him with Kalamady. I don't generally let my opinion of people interfere anyway. Get over yourself.

[Serge]

I think that Swartz hasn't done anything horribly bad to any of us, and I see no reason that people are provoking him for seemingly no reason.

He apologized, and not only was that big of him, but he didn't really hurt any of us, I don't see why he's getting hell just because he is saying he shot someone. Fine.. people are ALWAYS innocent citizens - you believe them if they say they are, and you don't believe when they say they've done anything above the norm.

Besides..that information is almost completely irrelevant to the thread (not 100%), so why is he being called out on it? It's not like he's bragging about it, he seems more ashamed of it than anything.
blud, I love you like a fine piece of salt water taffy and ur'thing, but he made a thread, appologizing for lying to us, and then lies to us!

[Ignition]

Ban me for what? Pointing out his stupidity? I'm sure if I was talking to someone you didn't like you wouldn't care.


have a nice day off.

[Liquid Swordsman]

have a nice day off.

Be happy I'm not harrassing you too. Your whole "I have a learning disability" thing is all bullshit.

[Serge]

Be happy I'm not harrassing you too. Your whole "I have a learning disability" thing is all bullshit.
Come on now, LS. Cool it off, I don't like being grouped with people who take it too far.

[Liquid Swordsman]

Maybe no one else has taken it far enough...:rolleyes:

[Ignition]

Be happy I'm not harrassing you too. Your whole "I have a learning disability" thing is all bullshit.

I liked you... your funny. And sadly wrong. Purhaps if you hurassed me more you might know me better.

[allstarGL]

Swartz all I can say is be yourself. If people don't like you for who you are find some people who do. You will never enjoy life if your constantly trying to be someone your not.

[mushroom_girl]

Be happy I'm not harrassing you too. Your whole "I have a learning disability" thing is all bullshit.
Y'know...I'm tired of you.

All you ever do is call people out on things that you have no right of. Prove that Necross doesn't have a learning disability. Honestly, Necross hasn't done anything to you, so lay off and mind your own business.

Oh, and you're a hypocrite. You call-out Swartz on acting "hard," yet that's your attitude 24/7. Grow up a little.

Swartz decides to make an apology thread, and he seems sincere enough about it. I don't think he's done anything so bad, so I have no reason to forgive him. He's still a cool guy.

Lay off.

[Liquid Swordsman]

Most people that truely have learning disabilities don't go around calling themself an idiot all the time. 99% of the people on these forums are completely oblivious to what's really going on.

[mantis33]

Liquid, shut up.
I'm apologizing to everyone for pretending to be so many things I wasn't.
Killing those people made me a murderer.
I cannot justify that by saying they killed my best friend.
I shouldn't have lost my temper.
If there is one thing in Warcow's TAO Phone Book that actually applies to me in real life, it's about me being "...prone to unpredictable moments of instability."

Do drug dealer-killing gangsters usually like all that anime crap? I'm just guessing your banner is that anime shit.

[allstarGL]

Most people that truely have learning disabilities don't go around calling themself an idiot all the time. 99% of the people on these forums are completely oblivious to what's really going on.
Oblivious of what exactly? You can choose to believe them or not, this is a forums, if someone wants to pretend to be a gangster or a ballarena I could care less. It's tottaly their choice and their the ones that have to live with their bullshit. As long as their contributing to the conversation at hand what the hell does it matter. swartz finnaly got fed up with his own bullshit and decided to confess as many people do. It's not like their pulling one over on us, we don't have any way of knowing 100% the truth so going around like your doing calling people out on something that you really have no proof of makes you look like a moron.

[Liquid Swordsman]

Alright..:bad:

[uniquinous]

What I'm about to say in no way is meant to harm, it's just the best psychological standpoint I can see at the moment.

You're normal. Average. Just like everyone else. And THAT, dear Swartzstrom, is what is unsettling for you. Upper middle class white adolescent with no great risks or accomplishments in life. So yes, you hide behind facades, and you continue to, in this very thread. It's actually rather reminiscent of Vash. Now if you actually had become "rough around the edges" in your life, you wouldn't be some timid kid trying to "show the real me". You'd've become hardened - it would be something you wouldn't talk about because it would be as obvious and overlooked in your life as tying your shoes. Take HatchetKlown as a good example of this.

Here's the thing tho: there's nothing wrong with being normal. I can't help but ask you what you WANT from this forum, and if you truly think your actions, including this thread, have brought you any closer to that goal.

[***Duo***]

You're still Milliardo Peacecraft to me.


-Duo

[Angelic-Hotfox]

Do drug dealer-killing gangsters usually like all that anime crap? I'm just guessing your banner is that anime shit.

what is it with you and bashing anime everytime you see itin someones banner? :confused:

[inked]

Editted out.

[LondonJack]

I guess we'll have to start calling him Captain Jack Swartzstrom.

I don't know what bugs me more, the responce to someone confessing to murder via vigilante retribution, or the fact that i'm so jaded that i honestly don't care one way or the other if its true. At best this thread is a passing distraction, just another reminder of the strange world in which we live.

[uniquinous]

If it's true? Heh - there are two standard types of extreme action:
1) deliberate - in which case he wouldn't start talking about the justification of them killing his friend, he would think he WAS justified and they deserved to die - definately not the message he put across
2) accidental - in which case he wouldn't be so bland about the murder. It would be "I need to live with this horrible thing" not "well I can't exactly justify it because they killed my friend".

The account of the murder is similar to a telling of a fishing story. "Well, we didn't catch anything but I suppose that doesn't justify my pushing my friend overboard in good fun..."

[allstarGL]

Wow I just realized that the fact he said he killed someone didn't even phase me. Maybe I just didn't believe him when I read it and disregarded it as complete nonsense or I am just not phased by the fact someone said their a murderer, either way I find that disturbing.

[***Duo***]

He said he shot someone, not that he killed them.
Of course, he could reply to this with a "Yeah, I killed them."

Haha, reminds me of something.
"Thanks for the candy."

If anyone can tell me what I'm referring to, I'll give you something special.


-Duo

[uniquinous]

no no, he said he murdered them on page 2 ;)

[Sluff]

Why did the gangstas shoot your friend? I don't get it.

[Swartzstrom]

I have said multiple times in this Thread and another that I'm NOT hard, I DO NOT THINK I'M HARD, and am implying that I DO NOT WISH TO BE HARD. I would like to be ME. Okay?

Why did the gangstas shoot your friend? I don't get it.

It was in the middle of a drug deal. I think the receiving party was already pissed at what they were getting for what price, and he was just taking a short cut home. I don't think it was a big deal; it was just some marijuana, I think. I suppose they thought that he was coming to screw them over, so they opened fire. My friend was a pretty intimidating by his looks, he was about five years older than me, so I guess it's natural they thought he was going to try something. He was an avid music fan, so he had no idea what was going on, his music in his walkman was way louder than it should've. I can still remember the song that was playing. Tupac's "California Love".

I know I cannot justify what I did with any excuse. I came to that conclusion years ago. The fact is, I took another person's life, and for that, I'm damned. Period. I'll just have to live out the part Fate has written for me.

[uniquinous]

damned? Fate?

lol such a bad liar. Let's look at this. You state "it was in the middle of a drug deal" and then later in the same paragraph state "he was just taking a short cut home". How is it, that in one scenario there is an active deal, and in another he is an oblivious bystander?

Furthermore, your language gives you away. Let's take a look: "HE was taking a short cut home". It's not "WE took a short cut to his house". By using the word "HE", you allude to the fact that he was alone when this happened - that you weren't with him. Yet... somehow... you very clearly remember the song that was playing when he was killed. :rolleyes:

OK OK OK so let's just say somehow you mistyped (which, you didn't, as pronouns are pretty subconsciously set) - the reason you said he didn't see it coming was because he couldn't hear anything. Well, if you were with him and could hear what his headphones were playing (which would be odd to be traveling with a friend and be listening to music so loud you can't converse), why didn't YOU warn him when things turned suspicious?

Are you starting to see how many holes are in this story? Go back to boring suburbia :p

[LondonJack]

He's doing a good enough job digging his own grave, no need to squat over the hole and use it for a latrine. :rolleyes:

[theburning]

I'm beginning to think that it's very possible that Swartzstrom might mean that he killed someone in a video game! Which he really shouldn't feel bad about because it didn't actually happen.

[uniquinous]

He's doing a good enough job digging his own grave, no need to squat over the hole and use it for a latrine. :rolleyes:
Hey that's a good phrase, I like it. But... are you sure? :p

[-Dape-]

...Well...didn't any body think of the deal could of been in that short cut home?

[kegsworth]

Life is too short to worry about such trivial matters. If he says he did something, just give him the benefit of the doubt - History will vindicate his allegation.

As for the apology, I do not accept. Only because I feel you have nothing to apologize for. Most everyone on this forum (myself included), do not act the way they do in real life, and often make up stories to make their lives seem less boring. It's a fact of life, folks. Get over it.

/2cents

[Swartzstrom]

damned? Fate?

lol such a bad liar. Let's look at this. You state "it was in the middle of a drug deal" and then later in the same paragraph state "he was just taking a short cut home". How is it, that in one scenario there is an active deal, and in another he is an oblivious bystander?

Furthermore, your language gives you away. Let's take a look: "HE was taking a short cut home". It's not "WE took a short cut to his house". By using the word "HE", you allude to the fact that he was alone when this happened - that you weren't with him. Yet... somehow... you very clearly remember the song that was playing when he was killed. :rolleyes:

OK OK OK so let's just say somehow you mistyped (which, you didn't, as pronouns are pretty subconsciously set) - the reason you said he didn't see it coming was because he couldn't hear anything. Well, if you were with him and could hear what his headphones were playing (which would be odd to be traveling with a friend and be listening to music so loud you can't converse), why didn't YOU warn him when things turned suspicious?

Are you starting to see how many holes are in this story? Go back to boring suburbia :p


I say "HE" because I wasn't with him when he walked up on it. I didn't arrive until they had already opened fire. I remember the song because when he was dead on the ground, the headphones had fallen off of his head, and his music was blaringly loud. That's how he loves his music.

[-Dape-]

Originally Posted by Swartzstrom
It's straight internet BS, Northwind. Every bit of it. The most gang-banging I've ever done in life was shooting some drug dealers for killing my best friend right in front of me. The most I've ever stolen was a dollar for tax when bying a CD Player...and that was an accident.

So.....you just said in there that they shot him infront of you...now your saying he was around dead when you got there....odd :dry:

[sayter]

Respect for admitting it, but that doesn't change the fact that you lied to us all. From here on in, at least we know partially who we are dealing with, however. In the future, perhaps try wiping the bullshit off your shoe before tromping it all around the house, so to speak.

As for fear of success, and whatnot....I can understand where you are coming from. That is basically everyone in their late teens and early adulthood, Swartz. It isn't unique, and this means there are many who could speak to you on an equal playing field. Honesty is a far better friend than lying, and it will gain you a lot more respect.

[sayter]

Uni, its like a sugar -coated candy. Inside there is a goody, but you need to suck off the layers of crap to get to it. Except in this case, when you get to said inner yumminess, you find out that there is even MORE candy shell...except now it is flavored like rancid milk and feces.

Do you really want to bother getting to the candy?

[Swartzstrom]

Respect for admitting it, but that doesn't change the fact that you lied to us all. From here on in, at least we know partially who we are dealing with, however. In the future, perhaps try wiping the bullshit off your shoe before tromping it all around the house, so to speak.

As for fear of success, and whatnot....I can understand where you are coming from. That is basically everyone in their late teens and early adulthood, Swartz. It isn't unique, and this means there are many who could speak to you on an equal playing field. Honesty is a far better friend than lying, and it will gain you a lot more respect.

I'm not trying to be different. To try to be different from the mainstream is to be the same as the other mainstream. In essence, there is no such thing as being different from everybody else. To try and just be yourself, you're apart of yet another mainstream; those who want to be themselves.

I never had any respect when I was telling the truth to begin with.

[Swartzstrom]

So.....you just said in there that they shot him infront of you...now your saying he was around dead when you got there....odd :dry:

They were shooting at him when I arrived. He was dead by the time actually got to him.

[theburning]

Where did you get the gun to shoot this person with anyways? Do you just walk around carrying a gun?

[Swartzstrom]

Where did you get the gun to shoot this person with anyways? Do you just walk around carrying a gun?

No. My older brother had this box he always kept locked. I had to take a hammer with a nail-remover on the end to break the lock and get the gun.

[uniquinous]

and you have even less respect for failing to come clean even in your appology thread. So, you were just taking the same "shortcut" home as him. Generally when everyone takes the same route from one place to another, it's not a shortcut anymore, it's just the cut. If you were that close to him as you say you were... why didn't you just lightly job for 5 seconds to catch up to him. What? did you just decide to follow him 10 meteres behind the entire way to his house?

Come on, you can admit it, this story is also crap, and reaks of the exact same crap your previous theivery lies had.

mmm sayter - there's the rancid milk center ;)

[theburning]

No. My older brother had this box he always kept locked. I had to take a hammer with a nail-remover on the end to break the lock and get the gun.

Ok so you shot this guy after he killed your friend?

How did you find him?

[uniquinous]

No. My older brother had this box he always kept locked. I had to take a hammer with a nail-remover on the end to break the lock and get the gun.

oh wait wait wait wait wait - this is good. So you were trailing your friend home. He got shot. The killers probably left by time you got there, since you're still alive. You knew the music he was listening to at the time even tho you weren't there when he was actually killed, and then, went home, broke open a box (HARDCORE!) and then teleported back before the killers could leave and killed them.

Or was it just premeditated and now you're spewing all kindsa crap about how you'll have to live with the blah blah blah? Riiiiight.

[Swartzstrom]

Ok so you shot this guy after he killed your friend?

How did you find him?

The shortcut he always took was about three city blocks from my house. I have a pretty good sense of direction with sound, so I headed that way.

[Swartzstrom]

oh wait wait wait wait wait - this is good. So you were trailing your friend home. He got shot. The killers probably left by time you got there, since you're still alive. You knew the music he was listening to at the time even tho you weren't there when he was actually killed, and then, went home, broke open a box (HARDCORE!) and then teleported back before the killers could leave and killed them.

Or was it just premeditated and now you're spewing all kindsa crap about how you'll have to live with the blah blah blah? Riiiiight.

No, I wasn't trailing him. We parted ways on the corner of Quincy street. When I was about a block away from my house, I heard the gunshots, and took off home. I got the weapon and then headed to where my friend was. The music he was listening to was playing when I got to him; so I don't know what he was listening to in between the time we parted ways and when I arrived at the location.

[theburning]

The shortcut he always took was about three city blocks from my house. I have a pretty good sense of direction with sound, so I headed that way.

So you're saying that you had time to run 3 city blocks, find a hammer, break open this box, then catch up with these kids?

Were these kids crawling on the ground? I'm pretty sure if they had just killed someone (especially a sketchy looking drug dealer) they would have gotten the HELL out of there ASAP.

No, I wasn't trailing him. We parted ways on the corner of Quincy street. When I was about a block away from my house, I heard the gunshots, and took off home. I got the weapon and then headed to where my friend was. The music he was listening to was playing when I got to him; so I don't know what he was listening to in between the time we parted ways and when I arrived at the location.

I thought you said the murder took place right in front of you?

[uniquinous]

he did say it was in front of him - now it isn't. Furthermore, since he wasn't there, he'd have no idea WHO ACTUALLY KILLED HIS FRIEND.

Wow. My dog lies better then you, and at least she has cute puppy eyes :rolleyes:

[Swartzstrom]

So you're saying that you had time to run 3 city blocks, find a hammer, break open this box, then catch up with these kids?

Were these kids crawling on the ground? I'm pretty sure if they had just killed someone (especially a sketchy looking drug dealer) they would have gotten the HELL out of there ASAP.

Two parties. They were too busy trying to shoot at each other after my friend was shot to worry about running away. The cops in that area are terrified at night, and their response time is absurdly slow.

I thought you said the murder took place right in front of you?

As I said, he was being at shot by some cronie when I arrived. He had gotten hit once by the time I realized who they were shooting at.

[uniquinous]

As I said, he was being at shot by some cronie when I arrived. He had gotten hit once by the time I realized who they were shooting at.Oh so now he DID die in front of you, when you just said he didn't as you wouldn't actually know what music he was listening to when he actually died. But wait! You also said that he died because he didn't hear anyone aproaching or know what was going on, but clearly, if he had only been wounded, he would have taken/thrown off the headphones. Or did he just get minorly shot, and continue listening to his music aimlessly until you arrived at which time he was shot? :rolleyes:

Are you starting to understand why everyone finds you pathetic and still lying?

[theburning]

And this was all over some marijuana drug deal?

I have a serious problem believing that the cops were "terrified" of some punk marijuana drug dealing.

You know what my favorite part of this whole thread is?
The most gang-banging I've ever done in life was shooting some drug dealers for killing my best friend right in front of me.

I love how you try to make it sound as if it's no big deal.

[Swartzstrom]

Oh so now he DID die in front of you, when you just said he didn't as you wouldn't actually know what music he was listening to when he actually died. But wait! You also said that he died because he didn't hear anyone aproaching or know what was going on, but clearly, if he had only been wounded, he would have taken/thrown off the headphones. Or did he just get minorly shot, and continue listening to his music aimlessly until you arrived at which time he was shot? :rolleyes:

Are you starting to understand why everyone finds you pathetic and still lying?

Now if you shot somebody, would you just let them go away and bear witness to you shooting them? Or would you put slug after slug in them until they were dead? That's exactly what he did. He had gotten hit once when I arrived. When I realized who it was, I took off towards him, shooting at the same time. And then he was shot death. After the first bullet struck, he continued to fire repeatedly until he was dead.

[sayter]

mmmm rancid milk center indeed. *passes out delicious candies filled with rancid milk and feces* anyone else want one?

[sayter]

funyn swartz. your story keeps changing, and I think even YOU are having issues sorting out what is bullshit at this point.

Next , robot-ninja-pirates are going to be the gunmen, and you are going to defeat them using your lightsabre and jeet kun do. while naked. using only your penis to wield the weapon...cuz you are so HARD.

[Swartzstrom]

And this was all over some marijuana drug deal?

I have a serious problem believing that the cops were "terrified" of some punk marijuana drug dealing.

You know what my favorite part of this whole thread is?


I love how you try to make it sound as if it's no big deal.

It is a big deal, but I've come to terms for what I did. Because of that, I can talk about it as though it's no big deal.

Why am I trying to convince you people?

I can't believe I still care what ya'll think.

this, I'm done.

Bye.

[sayter]

TUPAC FTW! *mumble*

[uniquinous]

Now if you shot somebody, would you just let them go away and bear witness to you shooting them? Or would you put slug after slug in them until they were dead? That's exactly what he did. He had gotten hit once when I arrived. When I realized who it was, I took off towards him, shooting at the same time. And then he was shot death. After the first bullet struck, he continued to fire repeatedly until he was dead.But they were going to let you "go away and bear witness". So you were shooting as you were running, and managed to kill off all these other people single handedly! Oh and, the time between when they first shot him and when they finally killed him was the same time it took you to run home, crack open a locked box, get a gun, run 3 blocks. And you say he was "firing repeatedly" despite the fact that you weren't there for that time. So erm, was he still listening to his Tupac when you got there?

Really kid, this sounds like a poor childish rendition out of a poor after-school special. Your facts don't add up.

Don't assume I will stop pointing out every stupid mistake you make until you admit it's all crap. I'ma keep on going for as long as you will. ;)

[kegsworth]

A few questions:

1) Why would you run three blocks and find a gun if you heard gunshots, especially if you thought it was your friend in the middle of it?

2) Why not try and find your friend first to make sure he's alright, and not involved?

3) Why not call the police while you were at your house?

These are the questions racing through my mind.

[theburning]

The music he was listening to was playing when I got to him; so I don't know what he was listening to in between the time we parted ways and when I arrived at the location.

Parted ways? So you guys were together at one point.

Ok so basically...you and this friend are taking a short cut...you hear gun shots, run off to get your big brothers gun, come back to find your friend being killed and then kill this guy.

Two parties. They were too busy trying to shoot at each other after my friend was shot to worry about running away. The cops in that area are terrified at night, and their response time is absurdly slow.

So...you ran into an open gunfire area...and didn't get hurt? They just let you go?

[-Dape-]

They were shooting at him when I arrived. He was dead by the time actually got to him.

Why didn't you say that in the first place?

Parted ways? So you guys were together at one point.

Ok so basically...you and this friend are taking a short cut...you hear gun shots, run off to get your big brothers gun, come back to find your friend being killed and then kill this guy.



So...you ran into an open gunfire area...and didn't get hurt? They just let you go?

lmao ran off.

[theburning]

A few questions:

1) Why would you run three blocks and find a gun if you heard gunshots, especially if you thought it was your friend in the middle of it?



And more importantly! Why wouldn't you and your friend just get the hell out of the area when you heard the gunshots?

[kegsworth]

And more importantly! Why wouldn't you and your friend just get the hell out of the area when you heard the gunshots?

Apparently, he got hit in the first few shots.

Else, I assume he would have gotten outta there.

[Yazoo]

Can I try to piece this together without getting flamed?

[theburning]

So...Swartzstrom, did you confess to the murder or get caught or anything?

[Punishment]

Swartz,

My question is this: If these dangerous drug dealers shot your friend while you were there, do you really think they would have left you, a witness, alive?

I'm sure if i was a gang member who had just killed someone for no apparent reason, I wouldn't have a problem killing another... Doesn't seem logical to keep you alive in that situation..

(if this has been asked+answered already, sorry, didn't feel like reading 7 pages of this crap.)

[uniquinous]

really people should stop posing it in questions as if it actually happened :p

[theburning]

really people should stop posing it in questions as if it actually happened :p

But his story makes so much sense!

[Yazoo]

I'm thinking that he and his friend were coming home from who knows where, and parted ways on the corner of some street. When he was going home, he heard the gunshots near his house, and ran in to get the gun. Then he ran out, ran three city blocks, to the scene of the shooting, at which his friend was already shot. At this, he proceed to run forward, firing bullets wildly in the direction of the offering and receiving parties. He managed to hit a few of them, which I think may have scared them off. When he got to his friend, who was already dead, his headphones had already fallen off, and that Tupac track was playing. That seems to be where it ends.

So, why didn't you call the police when you got home, Swartzstrom?
What about the drug dealers who were shot, what happened to them?

[theburning]

Swartz,

My question is this: If these dangerous drug dealers shot your friend while you were there, do you really think they would have left you, a witness, alive?

I'm sure if i was a gang member who had just killed someone for no apparent reason, I wouldn't have a problem killing another... Doesn't seem logical to keep you alive in that situation..


Oh, that's a simple one!

Because he shot and killed all of them!

[uniquinous]

I'm thinking that he and his friend were coming home from who knows where, and parted ways on the corner of some street. When he was going home, he heard the gunshots near his house, and ran in to get the gun. Then he ran out, ran three city blocks, to the scene of the shooting, at which his friend was already shot. At this, he proceed to run forward, firing bullets wildly in the direction of the offering and receiving parties. He managed to hit a few of them, which I think may have scared them off. When he got to his friend, who was already dead, his headphones had already fallen off, and that Tupac track was playing. That seems to be where it ends.

So, why didn't you call the police when you got home, Swartzstrom?
What about the drug dealers who were shot, what happened to them?
And after all of this, the ones that were scared away just... let him live.

Ya know Yazoo, it would be a bit more convincing if you didn't happen to share the exact same IP address as swartzstrom ;)

[Yazoo]

Oh, that's a simple one!

Because he shot and killed all of them!

This has to be sarcasm.

I do not care what gun he had, he didn't have enough bullets to kill six people. He'd have to reload at least once, I think. Unless that gun was a .357 or a .44 Magnum, he would have to use several shots in order to take them out. And depending on his age, if he would have fired either one of those, they would have broken his arms, or been knocked clear off his feet by the recoil of the weapon.

[theburning]

This has to be sarcasm.



Obviously! I'm 24 not 14.

Ya know Yazoo, it would be a bit more convincing if you didn't happen to share the exact same IP address as swartzstrom

Nice catch! :)

I should have thought of it since Swartz suddenly disappeared.

[Yazoo]

And after all of this, the ones that were scared away just... let him live.

Ya know Yazoo, it would be a bit more convincing if you didn't happen to share the exact same IP address as swartzstrom ;)

I'm the same guy who got Swartzstrom's original IP Address banned in the first place. blacktwister. We go to the same school.

[uniquinous]

I'm the same guy who got Swartzstrom's original IP Address banned in the first place. blacktwister. We go to the same school.
and use the exact same computer as each other within seconds of use! Were you waiting on line for that computer or something? Is that it?

[theburning]

I'm the same guy who got Swartzstrom's original IP Address banned in the first place. blacktwister. We go to the same school.

Well, as it stands you appear to be the exact same person...so you'd better quit posting on the same computer while he is banned.

[Yazoo]

and use the exact same computer as each other within seconds of use! Were you waiting on line for that computer or something? Is that it?

I have Computer Applications II this period, and he has Marketing this period. I don't believe the IP Address varies with the computer, but with the school network.

I've always been nosy to what he's been doing on Tactics Arena. We used to be best friends, but he's avoided me for a while now. I don't know why. When he told me this 'gang-banging' story thing, he was crying. I'll never let him live that down for the rest of his life.

[uniquinous]

yeah that's why you're wrong. I'm looking at the exact unique computer identifier, it's the same one - I caught your lie yet again. Just admit your stupidity already - you're not fooling anyone. The sooner you admit it, the sooner people will be able to get over it and perhaps show you some respect here.

It's also a bit too convenient that you happened to pop up within seconds after he logged off. Furthermore, it's incredibly odd that not one, but TWO teachers would allow students to slack off on TAO during class. BTW, marketing generally isn't a computer class, so he had no reason to have one. No, it's one person, in a computer lab somewhere with free time. Sorry try again next time.

Ya know swartz, there's an easy way to prove this - newspaper article. Surely they found the body of your friends and his assailants a few blocks from Quincy, knew that the person who killed the assailants escaped as the gun wasn't left there, etc. Show us the police report or newspaper article with links.

I look forward to your excuse as to why you can't do this. :)

[sayter]

lol and the lies jsut keep comin. Blacklist anyone?

Seriously....and he apparently knows NOTHING about guns. No gun is going to break your damn arm on firing. It may throw your arm back a tad, possible cause a slight issue...it will certainly screw up accuracy. Its not gonna break a damn limb, especially if you hold it with both hands. There may be exceptions..like if you weighed 14 pounds or we are talkign about a frekain CANNON, more or less. But cmon....

That, and the calibre of the gun has very little to do with its liklihood of killing someone in one shot. a .22 is more than capable of killing in a single hit. A larger calibre just hurts a lot MORE is all. If they coudlnt kill someone, why would a starndard issue sidearm be 9mm, and not a .45? lol.

duuuh george.

[uniquinous]

maybe by "gun" he meant "ye olde 40.22 canonball shot"

[New Setup]

Murder is the killing of another human being. It is considered one of the worst crimes to commit. Legalised killing, such as genocide, can also constitute murder if it violates international law. My question is, have you been in jail for that?

[Punishment]

This has to be sarcasm.

I do not care what gun he had, he didn't have enough bullets to kill six people. He'd have to reload at least once, I think. Unless that gun was a .357 or a .44 Magnum, he would have to use several shots in order to take them out. And depending on his age, if he would have fired either one of those, they would have broken his arms, or been knocked clear off his feet by the recoil of the weapon.

Hmm..

Neither of those would break his arms... There may be a bit of recoil, but certainly not enough to break his arms.. probably not enough to even knock him on his ass....

[uniquinous]

Suddenly both Swartz and Yazoo grow silent. Trying to look up some article that might remotely resemble the story (pretty near impossible at this point) - or just decided to flee into the night? :)

[-Dape-]

Ak47 would break someones arm if he kept his finger on the trigger for all 30 rounds....But he didn't use that gun....so slowly moving on...

[uniquinous]

if by "ak47" you meant "sayter", then yes :p

[Tomlinson Troop]

This is one Circus-filled forum I have ever been on.

[-Dape-]

if by "ak47" you meant "sayter", then yes :p

lol, Could i ask why isn't this thread locked yet?

[uniquinous]

no you may not.

(really tho - on what grounds?)

[theburning]

Suddenly both Swartz and Yazoo grow silent.

Actually, it's probably because I banned Swartz for continuous swearing...he should be back tomorrow though! And I assume Yazoo quit posting since he's the same person...posting on an alternate name while banned can lead to a permanent ban.

Though, I sort of wish he was still around to respond!

[uniquinous]

we'll just have to wait till tomorrow! :)

[theburning]

we'll just have to wait till tomorrow! :)

I guess so!

I'm especially curious to find out what happened after he killed all of those people! And if he was never caught, it’s somewhat shocking that he’s admitting to all of this on a public forum…

[uniquinous]

actually, it sounds much like Grand Theft Auto. Maybe after he killed all those people he killed a cop and stole his car. Then the FBI come with a tank in the game, and if you're really good, you can steal the tank too :p

[theburning]

I know! That was my earlier impression...that it sounds like the plot for some video game.

[-Dape-]

no you may not.

(really tho - on what grounds?)

Because its pure BS (Or unless some of it was true)...and will turn into a spam thread like most other threads.

[MokoToko]

If I was lying my story would go as such

My friend was shot by a rival drug dealer, sure my friend dealt drugs but that was the lifestyle he was forced into. Using my superb connections I found out who shot my friend, his name was larry. I grabbed my brothers gun and called larry, asking to buy a half O of weed. He showed up alone and while he was weighing the merchandise I blasted him away with 4 shots. I could hardly sleep for a week. I didn't even go to school. I couldn't eat anything. It was the most horrible thing I have ever done in my entire life. I ask god everyday if I can just take it back.

how was that? much better story...not that I lie to you all about anything. except that one story where I pooped my pants, I'm sorry everyone.

[uniquinous]

so... doesn't coming back under secondary names during a ban result in a longer or permanent ban?

You making up a more ridiculous story doesn't make the already-ridiculous story you've told less ridiculous.

[MokoToko]

huh? You're not refering to me are you?

[uniquinous]

oh i misread - you were saying, if YOU (you not being swartz) were going to make up a story it would go like...

yeah I misread that one. My appologies

[Northwind]

so... doesn't coming back under secondary names during a ban result in a longer or permanent ban?

You making up a more ridiculous story doesn't make the already-ridiculous story you've told less ridiculous.
I think you're confused Uniq. Moko's not Swartz. He was using a hypothetical example of what he, Moko, would do if he were making up a story about shooting someone.

But that pooping your pants story -- fabrication? So you put that horrible image into my head for no reason??? :angry: Oh, you WILL pay for that.

Edit: Crap Uniq already realized his error and now I look like a royal dickwad for rubbing his face in it after he already admitted his mistake. You'll pay too, Uniq. You'll ALL pay! :aggress:

[inked]

I'm the same guy who got Swartzstrom's original IP Address banned in the first place. blacktwister. We go to the same school.

Load of shit.

Last time you posted I proved you were him.

You advertised your myspace and other fantasy stuff in this accounts signature. I can find it.
Pages 8 and 9 of Random thought of the hour.
I pwnz.

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25914&page=8
http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25914&page=9

[-Dape-]

Moko = Hulky i think....O.o

[sayter]

inked hath owned Yazoo/Swartz

[inked]

Moko = Hulky i think....O.o

inked = Hulky.

MokoToko is MokoToko.

I just used his account on Banff.

[theburning]

Load of shit.

Last time you posted I proved you were him.

You advertised your myspace and other fantasy stuff in this accounts signature. I can find it.
Pages 8 and 9 of Random thought of the hour.
I pwnz.

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25914&page=8
http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25914&page=9

I am not Swartzstrom. Why the hell does everybody keep saying that?

EDIT: And who is Swartzstrom?

I find that is my favorite part.

[Yazoo]

It doesn't matter. I've been lying about my identity the entire time, anyways. I've soiled this account's original owner's reputation beyond repair. I've done what I wanted. The lies, the insults, the cussing, that was all me. I'm responsible for the bulk of the posts on this account. Judah changed his account to Auriadizo a long time ago, hence the calm nature. He's defended me on various accounts, but he's still a dick. I hate him. Once I find out what the Auriadizo's account password is, I'm going to fuck that account up, too.

Thanks for using my lies as an opportunity to hate Judah, despise Judah, and flame him for 'his lies'.

[uniquinous]

i'ma totally take you out northwind - we'll see who pays! This forum aint big enough for the two of us as things have been. You will face my wrath if you do not do the chicken dance at once!

oh yazoo posted again. Shut up - you're stil lying. No matter how you think you can coerce this group to what you want us to believe, it will just never happen. Give up it already.

Alternatively, you may do the hokey pokey.

[Glamdring]

I just love it when the forums get rabid :rolleyes:

[Wizzy`]

I just love it when the forums get rabid :rolleyes:

*foams from the mouth*

[Ächilles]

I just love it when the forums get rabid :rolleyes:

This is like the good old days, darlin'.

[Wizzy`]

This is like the good old days, darlin'.

AH!
<333
There's a senior in my school who looks JUST like you.

[Ultimate Wargod]

this has gotten interesting

[sayter]

hokey pokey? what of the Cha Cha?

[Ächilles]

AH!
<333
There's a senior in my school who looks JUST like you.

I should fight him.

[Ultimate Wargod]

haha
achilles likes to fight
put anybody in a coma yet

[Realist]

I just love it when the forums get rabid :rolleyes:

Me too. :cool:

[mantis33]

It's like I said earlier! Gang-banging drug dealer/murders don't watch anime! :p

I pity those who actually believed this fool.

[Hellblazer]

Swartz, take me for example. I'm not as demonic-looking or acting all the time as I used to portray myself on here.
It's cool if you're really not as super-bad-ass as you make yourself out to be.

[Auriadizo]

0_o

As I walked into the library, Jamar walked out with a weird grin on his face and said, "You might want to check out Tactics." And laughed.

Is this what's been going on? Jamar knows no limits when trying to soil my reputation anywhere. I've been gone since I posted that first chapter to The Swordsman story. I've been looking for possible candidates for a publisher for my boo, so I had been gone. I don't know how Jamar found out my password, but I can't access my Swartzstrom account anymore. Yazoo definitely isn't me. Jamar used my obsession with Yazoo from Advent Children as a perfect way to stick 100% of the blame on me once he started messing with me on a different account. I've never killed anybody, stolen anything (serious), or nothing like that. The only thing I do these days is converse with my friends, school, and write. I haven't been able to get out much since this year in school is kind of tough. He did a pretty good job of making me look like crap. In his lies, however, I noticed several fatal flaws.

1. He changes the story a lot.
2. His typing, while somewhat like mine, is spotted as fake by myself instantly.
3. I absolutely abhor the words 'Monsieur' and 'Mademoiselle'.
4. I don't like using words with more than six letters unless it is absolutely necessary.
5. While that is my Myspace account, and that Yazoo is my RP account on Myspace, if I were to post as Yazoo, I would be acting like him. That is, calm and collected, with few words, straight to the point. And I would actually be RP'ing.
6. He doesn't know anything about Boston. If me 'killing people' were actually true, I would have given you specific street names, locations, and the name of that friend who was 'supposedly' killed.
7. I figure that if I made up a story about my friend getting killed, it would eventually happen, so I'm not going to jynx myself like that. That is stupid.
8. I don't have the balls to shoot someone. I'd probably have a emotional and mental breakdown.

Need I say more?

Oh yes, and I'm going to go and whip his butt right now, like all of you told me to do when he first started messing with me.

[Wizzy`]

I should fight him.

you should
he does karate and is on the wrestling team.
:D

[Punishment]

Hmm

Interesting.. o_O

How'd he get your password, anyways?

[Auriadizo]

Hmm

Interesting.. o_O

How'd he get your password, anyways?

Well, I've been using the same password for five years, and my crazy ex-girlfriend hinted that I was 'obsessed' with the word that is my password. I have no idea how she found out, I almost never say the word anyways. I can't change the password, either, 'cause he changed the password to my E-Mail account. Crap, I liked the name Swartzstrom.

~_~

I guess it's my fault, though. Someone was bound to find out. I guess I'll have to look for a new password.

As soon as I stepped out of the library, he got in his car and sped off.

*Mad*

[Wizzy`]

0_o

As I walked into the library, Jamar walked out with a weird grin on his face and said, "You might want to check out Tactics." And laughed.

Is this what's been going on? Jamar knows no limits when trying to soil my reputation anywhere. I've been gone since I posted that first chapter to The Swordsman story. I've been looking for possible candidates for a publisher for my boo, so I had been gone. I don't know how Jamar found out my password, but I can't access my Swartzstrom account anymore. Yazoo definitely isn't me. Jamar used my obsession with Yazoo from Advent Children as a perfect way to stick 100% of the blame on me once he started messing with me on a different account. I've never killed anybody, stolen anything (serious), or nothing like that. The only thing I do these days is converse with my friends, school, and write. I haven't been able to get out much since this year in school is kind of tough. He did a pretty good job of making me look like crap. In his lies, however, I noticed several fatal flaws.

1. He changes the story a lot.
2. His typing, while somewhat like mine, is spotted as fake by myself instantly.
3. I absolutely abhor the words 'Monsieur' and 'Mademoiselle'.
4. I don't like using words with more than six letters unless it is absolutely necessary.
5. While that is my Myspace account, and that Yazoo is my RP account on Myspace, if I were to post as Yazoo, I would be acting like him. That is, calm and collected, with few words, straight to the point. And I would actually be RP'ing.
6. He doesn't know anything about Boston. If me 'killing people' were actually true, I would have given you specific street names, locations, and the name of that friend who was 'supposedly' killed.
7. I figure that if I made up a story about my friend getting killed, it would eventually happen, so I'm not going to jynx myself like that. That is stupid.
8. I don't have the balls to shoot someone. I'd probably have a emotional and mental breakdown.

Need I say more?

Oh yes, and I'm going to go and whip his butt right now, like all of you told me to do when he first started messing with me.


You beat up a friend over a game.
you suck

[Serge]

Judah, you need help kid.

Haha, I just realized, there's about a 50/50 chance that's your real name.

[Auriadizo]

You beat up a friend over a game.
you suck

It was because of that 'friend' my girlfriend broke up with me. As lousy as his big lies are, his little white ones work well on the weak mind. My pops thinks I do drugs because of that 'friend'. I got fired from my job because of that 'friend'. I got IP banned because of that 'friend'. And now everyone on TAO thinks I'm a liar because of that 'friend'.

Yeah. Some friend that is, Wizzy.

Judah, you need help kid.

Haha, I just realized, there's about a 50/50 chance that's your real name.

Judah is my real name. My full name is Judah Ben Judah Zatar Townsend. Judah is in there twice because Ben stands for 'of' apparently. So 'Judah of the Tribe of Judah'. Or it might be 'Judah, descendant of Judah'. My father would never tell me which one.

[Auriadizo]

I just realized. It's called Editting posts.

>_<

[Serge]

You're gonna beat him up?

Fight Club much?

[Ächilles]

you should
he does karate and is on the wrestling team.
:D

I'll beat the wrestling out of his fat head.

[Auriadizo]

You're gonna beat him up?

Fight Club much?

I'm going to try. It isn't going to be easy, though. He's faster with his fists and stronger than I am. I have more endurance, and I can dodge better than he, though. I guess we're a bit evenly matched. He ran away, but he'll be downtown tonight. I'll just get him then.

[Serge]

I'm going to try. It isn't going to be easy, though. He's faster with his fists and stronger than I am. I have more endurance, and I can dodge better than he, though. I guess we're a bit evenly matched. He ran away, but he'll be downtown tonight. I'll just get him then.
Have you seen the movie Fight Club?

[Ächilles]

Have you seen the movie Fight Club?

You're breaking the first two rules, you ding dong.

[Auriadizo]

I'll beat the wrestling out of his fat head.

Ach, I've been meaning to ask you this. If I were to learn Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu, Tae Kwon Do, Jiu-Jitsu, and Akido, would everything be gravy for me? I don't want to specialize in one, I want to be all-round; be able to take anything. Or should I just learn Jeet Kune-Do?

EDIT: And no, Serge, I've never seen Fight Club. Why?

[Serge]

You're breaking the first two rules, you ding dong.
Haha, true.

You got my first reference to the movie didn't you?

[Wizzy`]

It was because of that 'friend' my girlfriend broke up with me. As lousy as his big lies are, his little white ones work well on the weak mind. My pops thinks I do drugs because of that 'friend'. I got fired from my job because of that 'friend'. I got IP banned because of that 'friend'. And now everyone on TAO thinks I'm a liar because of that 'friend'.

Yeah. Some friend that is, Wizzy.
Okay, then don't tell us that you beat him up over TAO.

[Auriadizo]

Okay, then don't tell us that you beat him up over TAO.

No problem. I'll drop all the facts next time.

[Ächilles]

Ach, I've been meaning to ask you this. If I were to learn Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu, Tae Kwon Do, Jiu-Jitsu, and Akido, would everything be gravy for me? I don't want to specialize in one, I want to be all-round; be able to take anything. Or should I just learn Jeet Kune-Do?

UFC is great and all, and the Mixed Martial Artist concept is a really good idea... But unless you devote yourself entirely to your arts then you'll basically suck at five Martial Arts as opposed to be okay at one. You're better off just choosing one and sticking with that for a while. I mean, you don't even really start getting good until black belt. Which in a legitimate system is five to seven years of training. I've been training for twelve years this September, and only now am I starting to extensively train in another art as much as I have with Kempo.
And for what you named off:
Brazillian Jiu Jitsu works great in a ring, but has to be adapted dramatically for real combat situations. Biting, eye gouging, tail bone shots, all these things negate a lot of BJJ - all these things are illegal in a ring or cage.
Tae Kwon Do is just a crapshoot. You'll learn how to do a sport, not a Martial Art. It just sucks. Don't bother with it, you'll get your head smashed in. It's nothing more than a sport combat and performance art.
Jiu-Jitsu (Japanese) is pretty good, but under the effects of adrenal stress in a real life situation, it's very difficult to make work unless you're extremely good at it.
Same idea with Aikido, even more so. Aikido is a set-up art. Everything has to be perfectly set up. I personally wouldn't want to rely on it, I'd rather just kick someone in the head. But hey, if you want to rely on people wearing coats all the time so you can throw them by their lapels, then all the power to you.

Train a standup game first. In about seven to ten years, drop me a line and I'll tell you what's next. If you do start training, don't think you're going to be out crackin' skulls in no time. It doesn't work like that. Plus if you do train, then you should have no desire to street fight.

Haha, true.

You got my first reference to the movie didn't you?

8 )

[uniquinous]

First, everyone know Ach hates Tae Kwon Do :p
Second, there's little reason to believe you're still not the same noob just trying to show yourself to be a tuff guy who beats up people on another account seeing that your first two efforts failed.
Third *foams at the mouth* (milk froth)
Forth.. ...so you expect us to believe that you've been gone all this time on your book deal and the day all this happens you happen to come back almost immediately to start defending an account you havent alledgedly cared about in... how long?

It sounds like it would be beneficial to the lot of you to just ban your entire school. Heck you shouldn't be here while in school to begin with.

Where in Boston was this horrid murder I didn't hear about? :p

[Auriadizo]

UFC is great and all, and the Mixed Martial Artist concept is a really good idea... But unless you devote yourself entirely to your arts then you'll basically suck at five Martial Arts as opposed to be okay at one. You're better off just choosing one and sticking with that for a while. I mean, you don't even really start getting good until black belt. Which in a legitimate system is five to seven years of training. I've been training for twelve years this September, and only now am I starting to extensively train in another art as much as I have with Kempo.
And for what you named off:
Brazillian Jiu Jitsu works great in a ring, but has to be adapted dramatically for real combat situations. Biting, eye gouging, tail bone shots, all these things negate a lot of BJJ - all these things are illegal in a ring or cage.
Tae Kwon Do is just a crapshoot. You'll learn how to do a sport, not a Martial Art. It just sucks. Don't bother with it, you'll get your head smashed in. It's nothing more than a sport combat and performance art.
Jiu-Jitsu (Japanese) is pretty good, but under the effects of adrenal stress in a real life situation, it's very difficult to make work unless you're extremely good at it.
Same idea with Aikido, even more so. Aikido is a set-up art. Everything has to be perfectly set up. I personally wouldn't want to rely on it, I'd rather just kick someone in the head. But hey, if you want to rely on people wearing coats all the time so you can throw them by their lapels, then all the power to you.

Train a standup game first. In about seven to ten years, drop me a line and I'll tell you what's next. If you do start training, don't think you're going to be out crackin' skulls in no time. It doesn't work like that. Plus if you do train, then you should have no desire to street fight.

I've no desire to street fight whatsoever. Violence does not appeal to me at all. If I were to learn anything, it would be for the sake of protecting others. A lot of people I care about have been muscled into doing something, so I want to protect them if it happens again. I understand it will take a while, but it's worth it to protect those I love.

Good God.

I sound like a Pokemon character.

0_o

[Wizzy`]

I finally saw fight club for the first time a couple weeks ago..
I <3'd it.
I've no desire to street fight whatsoever. Violence does not appeal to me at all. If I were to learn anything, it would be for the sake of protecting others. A lot of people I care about have been muscled into doing something, so I want to protect them if it happens again. I understand it will take a while, but it's worth it to protect those I love.

Good God.

I sound like a Pokemon character.

0_o

No.
I'm the pokemon.


Oh, and swartz..how did he get you IP banned?

[uniquinous]

chances are they probably aren't getting "muscled" in front of you, meaning any retribution/vengence you'd take with your martial arts would NOT be self defense. Furthermore, by time you get to that point, you'd have grown out of the state of maturity that will need it.

[Serge]

Also, that makes it pre-meditated.

[Auriadizo]

First, everyone know Ach hates Tae Kwon Do
Second, there's little reason to believe you're still not the same noob just trying to show yourself to be a tuff guy who beats up people on another account seeing that your first two efforts failed.
Third *foams at the mouth* (milk froth)
Forth.. ...so you expect us to believe that you've been gone all this time on your book deal and the day all this happens you happen to come back almost immediately to start defending an account you havent alledgedly cared about in... how long?

Makes sense. You have every reason not to believe me.

I don't have a book deal, I've been looking for one. I didn't really do the research, and was pretty stupid and eager, so I just ran out to random publishers. I'm trying to be patient, but I love writing, and I want to get my work out to the world ASAP.

It sounds like it would be beneficial to the lot of you to just ban your entire school. Heck you shouldn't be here while in school to begin with.

It would be beneficial. To everyone but me. ~_~

I'd get suspended for not paying attention in class and smart remarks. Reading TAO posts keeps my mouth shut, lol.

Where in Boston was this horrid murder I didn't hear about? :p

*Shrugs* I don't really know. The only places I've ever told Jamar about were Dorchester and Roxbury. So I guess one of those places.

[Northwind]

Wow. Just when you think it's not possible for a situation to get any worse. >.<

[Auriadizo]

Oh, and swartz..how did he get you IP banned?

He came on and started posting a whole bunch of random crap for no reason, saying DR sucks and all that garbage. I thought you were around when he did that.

chances are they probably aren't getting "muscled" in front of you, meaning any retribution/vengence you'd take with your martial arts would NOT be self defense. Furthermore, by time you get to that point, you'd have grown out of the state of maturity that will need it.

That didn't occur to me. In that case, there's no point in me learning it. Oh well.

[Serge]

Wow. Just when you think it's not possible for a situation to get any worse. >.<
More like "Just when you thought it was safe to go back to the forums; more full of tihs than Swartztrom, it's Auriadizo!"

[Megabyte]

At the point where the real world image is brought into play here, it's just one ridiculous example and attitude after another.

You kids crack me up. Get over the fact that you're all just nerds sitting in front of your comp and reach acceptance.

[Auriadizo]

At the point where the real world image is brought into play here, it's just one ridiculous example and attitude after another.

You kids crack me up. Get over the fact that you're all just nerds sitting in front of your comp and reach acceptance.

Apple Jacks.

[uniquinous]

*Shrugs* I don't really know. The only places I've ever told Jamar about were Dorchester and Roxbury. So I guess one of those places.Funny, that's where I am.

Wait wait wait - why do you keep making it sound like this Jamar guy isn't anywhere near you physically, yet you specifically stated:

As I walked into the library, Jamar walked out with a weird grin on his face and said, "You might want to check out Tactics." And laughed.And right after this in one of your points state:
6. He doesn't know anything about Boston. If me 'killing people' were actually true, I would have given you specific street names, locations, and the name of that friend who was 'supposedly' killed.So, somehow he lives close enough to you in Boston to brush by you in the library, but somehow he doesn't know what Boston is. Further, he, by "he" i mean "you" specifically gave the name Quincy in Boston.

Yeah you really are the worst liar I've EVER seen...

[Wizzy`]

You kids crack me up. Get over the fact that you're all just nerds sitting in front of your comp and reach acceptance.

Megabyte.
You shouldn't be talking.
You're how old?
And you make fun of kids on the internet.
Just as Jeffery does.

Please, someone quote this so the dumbass can see it.

[Auriadizo]

Funny, that's where I am.

Wait wait wait - why do you keep making it sound like this Jamar guy isn't anywhere near you physically, yet you specifically stated:

And right after this in one of your points state:
So, somehow he lives close enough to you in Boston to brush by you in the library, but somehow he doesn't know what Boston is. Further, he, by "he" i mean "you" specifically gave the name Quincy in Boston.

Yeah you really are the worst liar I've EVER seen...

I live in Hickory, North Carolina, uni. I've been here since like 2001.

[Serge]

Megabyte.
You shouldn't be talking.
You're how old?
And you make fun of kids on the internet.
Just as Jeffery does.
character limit

[Wizzy`]

character limit

thanks. <3

[Frozen Toast]

Megabyte.
You shouldn't be talking.
You're how old?
And you make fun of kids on the internet.
Just as Jeffery does.

Please, someone quote this so the dumbass can see it.

He might see it
But i don't what to think about is subject,Why would want to act hard a online game, And why hasn't the police got him yet! People are walking off as free murders these days.

[Auriadizo]

Funny, that's where I am.

Wait a minute, are you really?
D'you know anybody by name names Anthony Dansby or Shawn Dansby?

[Auriadizo]

He might see it
But i don't what to think about is subject,Why would want to act hard a online game, And why hasn't the police got him yet! People are walking off as free murders these days.

The police have no interest in someone who hasn't killed anyone.

[Megabyte]

He might see it


Nope, Wizzy showed that nothing he posts is worth paying attention too a while ago and was ignored, so I don't even bother responding to idiocy that comes from him.

I consider it akin to arguing with a dog or some such lower form. Maybe funny to do if you're really bored, but hardly worth the effort. Would be nice to teach him some tricks though, or at least get him carpet trained.

edit: oh, and to inquirying reps..I'm 22 ;)

[Wizzy`]

Nope, Wizzy showed that nothing he posts is worth paying attention too a while ago and was ignored, so I don't even bother responding to idiocy that comes from him.

I consider it akin to arguing with a dog or some such lower form. Maybe funny to do if you're really bored, but hardly worth the effort. Would be nice to teach him some tricks though, or at least get him carpet trained.

House trained*
Mr. Dumbass.

[Auriadizo]

I forgot. This forum doesn't support HTML Coding.

Or does it?

[uniquinous]

I live in Hickory, North Carolina, uni. I've been here since like 2001.
So why do you keep talking about boston and how you haven't told him about it?

Wait a minute, are you really?
D'you know anybody by name names Anthony Dansby or Shawn Dansby?You're asking me if I can pick out two random people in the middle of an east coast city? :huh:

[LondonJack]

Ye Olde "It wasn't me, it was the one armed man!" defense.

How all those pesky brothers, friends, cousins and random hobos keep managing to get people in trouble over the internet is beyond me, seriously its an epidemic!

[inked]

Auriadizo...

Your vocabulary in your posts are the exact same.
You double post the exact same.
You claim to be in a libary at the same time as him at the right time [before this your activity was what 5 months ago?].

I don't care to go farther into this.

Swartz, why not just give up?

Also, Auriadizo, why did you magically appear to back up yazoo (Swartz) in the BG thread to claim he isn't Swartz?
http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?p=817265#post817265

Seriously. You lose.

[Excaliber]

hahahahahahahhahaha


That's the stupidest thing I've ever read. Did you seriously just say you've shot someone? ahhahahahahahahaha

Your LAME. Stop trying to get attention on an online forum because your a bitch in real life.

You are wasting bandwidth here... go...

[mushroom_girl]

Wait...Auriadizo and Swartz are two different people? :confused:

I always thought it was just his two accounts....

[Serge]

Here we go. How to make a boring thread in a five easy steps.

Step One: Swartz makes a thread appologizing for lying. In the first post in the thread, he tells a bold faced lie.

Step Two: Yazoo comes in when Swartz gets a one day ban for cussing. Yazoo defends Swartz and we all are intelligent human beings and realize that it's actually Swartz.

Step Three: Aurizadizo (or whatever) comes in and says that he hasn't posted on Swartz since his last RP post. That all the recent posts by Swartz and Yazoo were by his "friend" Jamar. Swartz's real name is Judah.

Step Four: Yeah, we don't beleive that shit for a second either.

Step Five: Ayanbadejo makes a post with an offensive/racist picture in it while ignoring our cries of "We don't believe you!" and my clever reference to Judah fighting Jamar being like a scene from Fight Club.

[Scorpionz]

I forgot. This forum doesn't support HTML Coding.

Or does it?



You are a noob shut up. Oh, You can't do HTML here.

[***Duo***]

Ach -

What martial art DO you reccomend?

Oh, and, why do people care SO much to say that Swartz killed someone or not.
I find it hilarious you'd go through so much trouble to "prove" something you'll never really know.


-Duo

[Scorpionz]

Internet Lesson 56:

Don't tell crap about your life ven if the crap is true.

[Liquid Swordsman]

So many bitches..people can't even sign their name when they neg me.

[Scorpionz]

Poor Bitches. :(

[Liquid Swordsman]

Someone let Swartz off of his ban so he can come back to this thread and make himself look stupider.

[Scorpionz]

We all want that. :rolleyes:

[MokoToko]

scorpionz, I would change your avatar if I were you, no offense to you but it has been used by someone very respected.

secondly...this thread is really awesome, just like old times. Reinvigorates my love for Tao . Like totally!

[Scorpionz]

scorpionz, I would change your avatar if I were you, no offense to you but it has been used by someone very respected.

secondly...this thread is really awesome, just like old times. Reinvigorates my love for Tao . Like totally!

Insigs avatar is bigger, Has no backround and no S. This was taken from the clip itself. Insigs wasn't.

[Serge]

Insigs avatar is bigger, Has no backround and no S. This was taken from the clip itself. Insigs wasn't.
You're still lame.

[Scorpionz]

What!?!?!?!

How dare you.

You will die in 7 days. (Maybe 8)

[~SlayeR~]

He didn't watch the video. :p

[Scorpionz]

I'm so powerful now, You don't need to see the video. :p

[GeneralBenedict]

Wow. How far the forums have fallen :-(.

On both sides of the spectrum I might add.

[uniquinous]

oh yay, yet another "vet" getting into the first bad thread they see and complaining about how different it is from the good ol days, cuz clearly back in 03 there were only prize threads. :rolleyes:

Really, this thread has been an enormous source of amusement for me - I dunno bout anyone else.

[MokoToko]

oh yay, yet another "vet" getting into the first bad thread they see and complaining about how different it is from the good ol days, cuz clearly back in 03 there were only prize threads. :rolleyes:

Really, this thread has been an enormous source of amusement for me - I dunno bout anyone else.

doh...i totally misread that...looks like we are even uniq.

GB, don't you remember CJS...I mean, thats as old as it gets when considering real relationships.

[Auriadizo]

Whatever. I knew you guys wouldn't believe the truth even if I told it to you.

*Shrug*

[Teacher]

So when does this whole thread get turned into a play? If I found it interesting enough to read pages 1-15 it's got to be even better on stage.

[GeneralBenedict]

doh...i totally misread that...looks like we are even uniq.

GB, don't you remember CJS...I mean, thats as old as it gets when considering real relationships.

Yes I remember CJS haha. It was funny when that guy from the school made an account and busted his ass. Good times lol.

I was most ammused by uniq's antics than anything.

[GeneralBenedict]

oh yay, yet another "vet" getting into the first bad thread they see and complaining about how different it is from the good ol days, cuz clearly back in 03 there were only prize threads. :rolleyes:

My dear uniquinous. You missunderstand me. It is the members of the community that have fallen, not the thread quality. I am especially bothered by those who feel so insecure that they must debate the validity of a clearly made up story and take it appart piece by piece. As opposed to simply being secure with the knowlege that it is false and leaving it at that. It certaintly speaks volumes about that person. Dare I wish that there were people out there who had a little humility and didn't let their ego get in the way of things (most especially their job).

[uniquinous]

Whatever. I knew you guys wouldn't believe the truth even if I told it to you.I think you said that same thing after you tried to convince us you were a hardcore thief. And then when you "came clean" with your murder claim I believe you said that again. Then, we proved that FALSE and when you make some other claim you say... oh... big surprise... THE SAME THING YET AGAIN. :rolleyes:

My dear uniquinous. You missunderstand me. It is the members of the community that have fallen, not the thread quality. I am especially bothered by those who feel so insecure that they must debate the validity of a clearly made up story and take it appart piece by piece. As opposed to simply being secure with the knowlege that it is false and leaving it at that. It certaintly speaks volumes about that person. Dare I wish that there were people out there who had a little humility and didn't let their ego get in the way of things (most especially their job).Job? I'm not a forum mod so, I do hope you're not referring to TheBurning, as she does her job on these forums just fine if I do say so myself. And no, you make a ridiculous claim: it is clearly not obvious that his crap is invalid, as quite a few people began to believe him. If this were a forum of mature adults, then no, we wouldn't have to point out how much crap he spewed forth. However, if it were adults no one would be so stupid as to say those things. I can assure you *MY* security on the matter is not in question - but a lesson is learned from people who would compromise their integrity by compulsively lying: commanding responsibility of their words and actions - something I wish more of today's youth would pick up on. As for my "mistake" of your complaint, I will happily revise my original point as follows:
oh yay, yet another "vet" looking into the first bad user they see and complaining about how different it is from the good ol days, cuz clearly back in 03 there were only prize users. :rolleyes:
Note how the underlying point is still exactly the same :dry:

[shatterstar]

**grabs popcorn**

what i miss?

[Wizzy`]

oh yay, yet another "vet" getting into the first bad thread they see and complaining about how different it is from the good ol days, cuz clearly back in 03 there were only prize threads. :rolleyes:

Really, this thread has been an enormous source of amusement for me - I dunno bout anyone else.

The "Vets" are usually right.

[Ächilles]

Ach -

What martial art DO you reccomend?

I can't answer that question. It all really depends on what you're looking to accomplish. I want to be able to defend myself on the streets, against one person, four people, people with knives, bats, guns, on my feet, on the ground, etc... And I also want to be able to get in a ring and smash some faces. So Kempo works for me. If I had taken, say, Taijiquan, I would have accomplished none of what I wanted. I would have accomplished other things, but none of what I was shooting for. Every goal has a Martial Art.

[Jeffery]

I can't answer that question. It all really depends on what you're looking to accomplish. I want to be able to defend myself on the streets, against one person, four people, people with knives, bats, guns, on my feet, on the ground, etc... And I also want to be able to get in a ring and smash some faces. So Kempo works for me. If I had taken, say, Taijiquan, I would have accomplished none of what I wanted. I would have accomplished other things, but none of what I was shooting for. Every goal has a Martial Art.
Or is it every Martial Art has a Goal?

[Ächilles]

Or is it every Martial Art has a Goal?

Goes both ways.

[Serge]

Goes both ways.
Hahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahahhaha.

He said "goes both ways".

[Grocery Legs]

Hahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahahhaha.

He said "goes both ways".

I don't get it :(.

[GeneralBenedict]

Job? I'm not a forum mod so, I do hope you're not referring to TheBurning, as she does her job on these forums just fine if I do say so myself. And no, you make a ridiculous claim: it is clearly not obvious that his crap is invalid, as quite a few people began to believe him. If this were a forum of mature adults, then no, we wouldn't have to point out how much crap he spewed forth. However, if it were adults no one would be so stupid as to say those things. I can assure you *MY* security on the matter is not in question - but a lesson is learned from people who would compromise their integrity by compulsively lying: commanding responsibility of their words and actions - something I wish more of today's youth would pick up on. :

Of course I'm not critizing TheBuring. I have the utmost respect for her. In fact, respect doesn't describe my feeling completly. She stayed invested in the community through thick and thin and has done a wounderful job.

I was refering to you. It's interesting that you say since you're an in-game mod not a forum mod, it's not your job to keep these forums civil. I disagree. In the game you are responsible for keeping the game clean and reasonable, correct? Out of game, your responsibility still continues. I will draw the following analogy.

A policemen is responsible for the safety of his town. When he is on duty, he does his job. But when he is off duty, even in an area not within his jurisdiction, should he stop acting like a policemen? I think not.

Public, drawn out humiliation of a community member is never called for. One post would have just been fine. But because of your ego you refuse to let the issue drop. Do you really think you make the forums a better place by pointing out flaws in his story that were already visible to the rest of us? You did not. Instead you acted in a manner unbecoming of someone in your position.

I stand by my previous statement. There were better users in 2003. And those with responsiblity acted like they had it.

[meat.eater]

For a second, I thought people were intelligent. Weird.

[uniquinous]

Then you're talking about TheBurning as well, my partner in crime for this thread, cuz clearly the mod force is just a big bunch of bullies who push little kids around :rolleyes:

The hypocricy you weave is incredible! It's amazing that, up there on your high horse, you are comitting the exact same "crime" you acuse me of, and completely overlook the actions of TheBurning, despite the two of us being pretty united on this issue. But you have "more than respect" for her, so her actions clearly "don't count".

OK, let's use your analogy - police officer. When that TOWN officer goes into another country with different laws and systems, it is no longer his responsibility to actively do his job. He need not pull people over for speeding, drinking, etc. Now that doesn't mean he should go around *breaking* laws himself, but I'm sure you're well aware, neither TheBurning nor myself HAVE broken any rules here. If you disagree please point out which rules we have broken.

Public, drawn out humiliation of random innocent or underserved community members is never called for. This however can be seen as "pulling someone over for speeding". This wasn't a bully picking on a random small kid as you make it out to be. This is one person trying to actively decieve the community, and moderators et al stopping it. NO, you can NOT make the claim that everyone knew, as it was clear people didn't. And NO, you did not address my claim whatsoever of maintaining a better standard of quality on these boards by forcing users to take responsibility for their words and actions.

We have no reason to allow compulsive liars to continue such psychologically unsound behavior, do we? I've done the exact same things in PMs, but if this user chose a public forum (and made a thread in it) specifically for this, he should expect to take the replies. Similarly, if you go speeding down the intarstate, you should expect to get pulled over. It's what I do - call people on crap. You have yet to make a case for why that is a dishonorable crime.

[Jeffery]

I also like the fact that people completely forget that there ahve been compulsive liars and public oustings of them since the beginning of the forums.

CJS anyone?

[uniquinous]

JEFFERY YOU HORRID NOOB! Don't speak such heretical talk! There were only prize members in the dawn of forum time! So Saith the General!

[Jeffery]

JEFFERY YOU HORRID NOOB! Don't speak such heretical talk! There were only prize members in the dawn of forum time! So Saith the General!
I was around the forums in December. I saw just as much crap, although naturally on a smaller scale because there were less members, hense less noobs, but also less cool people.

Probably the only difference between then and now is the modding staff. Back then they executed n00bs faster, whereas certain mods now will simpyl egg them on for entertainment purposes.

[mantis33]

Hahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahahhaha.

He said "goes both ways".

OMG, he did!

He totally did! :bigsmile:

[GeneralBenedict]

Then you're talking about TheBurning as well, my partner in crime for this thread, cuz clearly the mod force is just a big bunch of bullies who push little kids around :rolleyes:

The hypocricy you weave is incredible! It's amazing that, up there on your high horse, you are comitting the exact same "crime" you acuse me of, and completely overlook the actions of TheBurning, despite the two of us being pretty united on this issue. But you have "more than respect" for her, so her actions clearly "don't count".

Ok, let's use your analogy - police officer. When that TOWN officer goes into another country with different laws and systems, it is no longer his responsibility to actively do his job. He need not pull people over for speeding, drinking, etc. Now that doesn't mean he should go around *breaking* laws himself, but I'm sure you're well aware, neither TheBurning nor myself HAVE broken any rules here. If you disagree please point out which rules we have broken.

Public, drawn out humiliation of random innocent or underserved community members is never called for. This however can be seen as "pulling someone over for speeding". This wasn't a bully picking on a random small kid as you make it out to be. This is one person trying to actively decieve the community, and moderators et al stopping it. NO, you can NOT make the claim that everyone knew, as it was clear people didn't. And NO, you did not address my claim whatsoever of maintaining a better standard of quality on these boards by forcing users to take responsibility for their words and actions.

We have no reason to allow compulsive liars to continue such psychologically unsound behavior, do we? I've done the exact same things in PMs, but if this user chose a public forum (and made a thread in it) specifically for this, he should expect to take the replies. Similarly, if you go speeding down the intarstate, you should expect to get pulled over. It's what I do - call people on crap. You have yet to make a case for why that is a dishonorable crime.

I personally will always disagree with calling people out on crap in such a manner that has been done in this thread. Even someone who "deserves" it. It is a dishonorable crime. You respond to someone posting crap with more crap, crap that people could easily deduce for themselves. I think having a "debate" on something so obviously false is useless and damaging to the community. It is damaging to the community because "calling out" someone repeatedly and over and over again is not for the community's benefit. It is for your own satisfaction. One, well thought out post could disprove his story. Multiple ones are not necessary.

[MokoToko]

Everyone loves a good lynching, I think it spices things up. This thread was pretty entertaining.

[uniquinous]

Let's look at that claim though. You state things like "It is a dishonorable crime" and "damaging to the community" but don't say WHY or HOW it is dishonorable nor damaging. In my eyes it's much more damaging to allow one iota of acceptance of such behavior, not only in this community, but within society as a whole.

You then claim that what I said is something "people could easily deduce for themselves". Well, perhaps you didn't read the earlier part of this thread, or the thread which spurred this particular appology, but quite a few people ACTUALLY BELIEVED HIM. So no, you can't make the claim that people would deduce it for themselves, because evidence directly disproves you. Again, this is NOT a forum of adults - we are riddled with people who are VERY easily duped. If you disagree, just ask around about how many people any gamer knows got "hacked" (really hijacked).

Lastly you claim "One, well thought out post could disprove his story". Well the problem is, his story continues to change to accomodate any "holes" that are pointed out. Thus, while one of my well thought out posts does disprove the story which was told, I can't possibly be psychic enough to refute every single story this person will ever make in the future. Thus, I shoot them down as they come.

Even still, try to prove to me why allowing such behavior within this community or society is anything but damaging.

[WaCk-HeAd]

For a second, I thought people were intelligent.


Hahahahahahahaha.. MORON!

[Scorpionz]

And what a second it was. :)

[Auriadizo]

I love watching all of you debate.
It's awesome.

[thewiz]

I love watching all of you debate.
It's awesome.

..
You should stfu.

[Swartzstrom]

i think the whole situation is funny. posing as judah was hilarious, and none of you believe it. youre idiots.

[thewiz]

i think the whole situation is funny. posing as judah was hilarious, and none of you believe it. youre idiots.

Yet you come back when he does.
You're worse than me.

[Auriadizo]

Yet you come back when he does.
You're worse than me.

Good lord, thewiz, you're a moron. How can the Swartzstrom account and Auriadizo account be online at the same time if we're the same person?

[Swartzstrom]

Yet you come back when he does.
You're worse than me.

stupid

[thewiz]

Good lord, thewiz, you're a moron. How can the Swartzstrom account and Auriadizo account be online at the same time if we're the same person?

I've proved it.

[Auriadizo]

I've proved it.

How? How can I be on two accounts at the same time at the library with one library card? Good lord, wiz. Please explain this to me.