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Lord Shinok
12-07-2006, 09:16 PM
w00tage! Go Netjak!

12, we going to do all freestyle for the remaining rounds?
All freestyle eh? Screw that.

allstarGL
12-07-2006, 09:20 PM
WOOOOOO! Bottle your the man!

Tag Captain
12-07-2006, 09:22 PM
I'm up for making a grey, freestyle and turtle game in round 3, unless any of the leaders or other players have any great objection. It puts one of us and one of them out of their comfort zone, so I don't see why anyone would be against it. We can then do all freestyle from there since there won't be 3 players left on one (read: AL's) team in round 4.

BaxVarlet
12-07-2006, 09:22 PM
w00tage! Go Netjak!


All freestyle eh? Screw that.

12 mentioned it earlier, don't blame me.

Twelve
12-07-2006, 09:22 PM
12, we going to do all freestyle for the remaining rounds?

Well, since the remaining people have differing styles, I would say that the remaining games are default freestyle unless the two opponents agree to a different kind of style.

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Twelve
12-07-2006, 09:23 PM
Hold on, Bax, let me email you.

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Lord Shinok
12-07-2006, 09:23 PM
12 mentioned it earlier, don't blame me.
I'm not blaming you mate. Just saying what I think of it. ;)

BaxVarlet
12-07-2006, 09:29 PM
Hold on, Bax, let me email you.

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Checked, and responded. Looks like Round 3 will run as smoothely as round 2 (hopefully).

Twelve
12-07-2006, 09:29 PM
O.K. Netjakkers, to the Netcave. Let's get into a huddle before I call this play.

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Tag Captain
12-07-2006, 09:32 PM
I'm there.

Twelve
12-07-2006, 09:42 PM
*claps hands together*

BREAK!

M_G, check your pm boxes, dear.

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BaxVarlet
12-07-2006, 09:44 PM
*claps hands together*

BREAK!

M_G, check your pm boxes, dear.

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The AL cave (I saw no copyright) is under reconstruction, so it'll probably be tomorrow before I hear back from my team and get my lineups to MG.

TripleSeven
12-07-2006, 10:05 PM
Hmm... that sounds about right though I can't remember the game all that well lol dont really need to fit all of that info into my head since finals are next week...*sigh*

All in all it was a good game. Wasn't as intense as I was dreading the pass few days :bigsmile: Well glad its over and glad I was able to kinda give you a run for you money with a few lucky blocks I had. But I do wonder what would of happened to the rest of the game if I gamble that assassin bomb and didn't do a few moves that was useless.

So yeah Bottle I want a rematch after my finals that is.

Would of been cool though if I had won. An unknown player beating one of the best in greys in the first war for NJ. Oh well.

End of round 2 and on with the next ~ 5 ALers vs 3 NJers.

Tag Captain
12-07-2006, 10:33 PM
If you'd got your assassin bomb primed, you would have needed a 4th assassin side block at 35% and you would have only had the choice between knight or LW. That's why you didn't do it.

If you didn't find the game intense, you weren't concentrating hard enough. :p

Come and find me on Legends if you want a rematch. I don't play here any more except for the 12.

Hatchet Warrior
12-07-2006, 10:38 PM
The AL cave (I saw no copyright) is under reconstruction, so it'll probably be tomorrow before I hear back from my team and get my lineups to MG.

there is no copyright...but the AL Cave? come on, that sounds dumb...

allstarGL
12-07-2006, 10:40 PM
The AL cave...LMAO!

Bobcat
12-07-2006, 10:44 PM
AL cage sounds better.

Zander
12-07-2006, 10:45 PM
To the legends dome!<_< ? :\ ....:(

...how about...to great lakes! ?

~SlayeR~
12-07-2006, 10:50 PM
To the Bathroom!

CRX687
12-07-2006, 10:56 PM
The AL cave (I saw no copyright) is under reconstruction, so it'll probably be tomorrow before I hear back from my team and get my lineups to MG.

pigs dwell in caves?:confused:

BaxVarlet
12-08-2006, 07:45 AM
pigs dwell in caves?:confused:

lol, CRX wins for best response.

allstarGL
12-08-2006, 08:06 AM
Have you sent in your rosters? I want to get this going today :D

Terps rock
12-08-2006, 08:20 AM
I defeat TripleSeven by 5 units.

The game had some truely insane blocking. Notably, my knights simply could NOT block an attack. Front hits with no modifier, side hits with +60 several times, the lot. As you know, I keep a spreasheet of blocking in my games; when I checked the stats afterwards my only blocks were at 81.5% and 41.5%, and I missed 6/6 side blocks at 40% and 3/4 side blocks in the turns immediately following when they had between +43 and +63. In contrast, her assassin side blocked with no modifier THREE TIMES (damned thing blocked when on 9 HP almost allowing her to set up the bomb, and I had to attack her scout to force her to heal her 21 HP assassin instead of getting it reduced to 2 HP by her own knight) and in the end I had to kill it with witch and LW just to be sure I'd hit. Her knights were on steroids too. Fortunately she had no mage blocks or scout side blocks, because if she had I'd have been in REAL trouble.

On my side, I had two witch front blocks (one of which happened after the game was over though), and a scout side block which really came in handy since her assassin had side blocked the turn before and was about to put me under some real pressure.

But other than that, it was a humdinger of a battle, lasting nearly an hour. She chose a no-chanty setup (novel idea), I used my standard turtle with a minor tweak of positioning, and we had opp sides as I had hoped. Initially my knight-and-assassin charge was foiled by her assassin's crazy blocking and my assassin's inability to, resulting in me taking out witch and pyro for my assassin and knight, and having the chance to kill her assassin for the first time (the second side block saved her). We then played tit for tat for a while, managing damage well on both sides by keeping it spread around, although I managed to focus my attacks a little better and forced her back on the defensive. Her ninja-assassin then got her third block and attacked my 35HP scout, which blocked, meaning I got the assassin for no exchange and from there I was fully on top. I forced all her knights back and got my scout attack on her cleric with no way for her to kill the scout in time. My scout front blocked, which helped, and my knight's proximity to her BW meant she couldn't save the cleric unless she pinned all her units. She chose not to and we exchanged scout for cleric, leaving my witch and 2 knights to clean up the remaining 3 injured knights and scout, which I (finally) managed to do despite my knights deciding to leave their shields at home still.

In the screenshot, my knight is on 27 HP and hers is on 15.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8223/triplewindn1.jpg

Triple played very well, and if she'd blocked a mage side shot on either witch or pyro I would have been a unit down at the start and may not have been able to come back from it.
Called the no chanty form!
Good job mei, don't worry its not like I can beat him.

Terps rock
12-08-2006, 08:22 AM
Would of been cool though if I had won. An unknown player beating one of the best in greys in the first war for NJ. Oh well.


Psh, what you mean unknown, you were the favorite in round one.

TripleSeven
12-08-2006, 08:37 AM
If you'd got your assassin bomb primed, you would have needed a 4th assassin side block at 35% and you would have only had the choice between knight or LW. That's why you didn't do it.

If you didn't find the game intense, you weren't concentrating hard enough. :p

Come and find me on Legends if you want a rematch. I don't play here any more except for the 12.

I didn't noticed her block percentage. Actually I never pay attention to the percentage at times so when you were able to say i got hits at 60% I was like "really? didnt know that"

It was intense dont get me wrong I would kinda say it was one hard of a game. At some points in the game I had no clue what moves I should be doing. But like I said was not as bad as I thought it would be like the idea of me getting flawless ;). You can say I wasn't concentrating hard enough though...Which I should have I might have done better...I usually never talk during my games tend to zone out abit :p

When I find time I'll look for you on Legends.

Oh about my no chantie set it might be new to you but my sets usually never involves her. The only time I use the chantie is when I use default.

Psh, what you mean unknown, you were the favorite in round one.

When the war was going to start I was barely back from a few months away from tao. It was like one or two days after my return I heard about this war. Most people never heard of me before Terps :P Im practically unknown even most of my clan-mates had never heard of me. Also even my teammates *except for a few of the old membs that knows me* in this war doubted my abilities and didn't want me in the war. Most of them wanted Jojo in the spot I was playing, but Bax kept me in. I was the underdog in this war to go against NJ and to my own team. I felt pressure to prove myself... didn't do so well though as I had hope... but now I'm out of the 3rd round. Probably be good for me. That game with bottle, waiting for it was a dread, read the posts "oh bottle is going to win, hes the best of the best" etc. and it didnt help that the last of the games I played to get ready for this game I kept on losing or got d/c but yeah same thing.

Anyway enough about my low confidences and whatnot, its over and done with. My part in this war is over. I'm free from this stress now gotta move on to the next stress in my life. lol

So Good Luck to the rest of you guys that are left and lets have a great 3rd round.

Come on ALers we can do it!!!

Tag Captain
12-08-2006, 11:02 AM
When you don't use a chanty you need your opponents not to be able to block knight side shots, so it's probably the perfect formation to use against me. :p

You were never going to get flawlessed because my playing style is to win all the time rather than humiliate 10% of ther time and lose the other 90%. Generally I win grey games by 5-7 units, so you certainly did well to get what you did.

Terps, you may have called the no-chanty form, but you didn't beat it, now did you? :wink2:

I'll be interested to see who ends up playing which style in the next round... the great thing is that none of our players have any weaknesses in any style now (except maybe my rustiness in turtle and allstar's grey play), so we can pretty much place anyone wherever we like...

Twelve
12-08-2006, 11:13 AM
When you don't use a chanty you need your opponents not to be able to block knight side shots, so it's probably the perfect formation to use against me. :p


Shhhhhhhh!

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Terps rock
12-08-2006, 11:50 AM
When you don't use a chanty you need your opponents not to be able to block knight side shots, so it's probably the perfect formation to use against me. :p

You were never going to get flawlessed because my playing style is to win all the time rather than humiliate 10% of ther time and lose the other 90%. Generally I win grey games by 5-7 units, so you certainly did well to get what you did.

Terps, you may have called the no-chanty form, but you didn't beat it, now did you? :wink2:

I'll be interested to see who ends up playing which style in the next round... the great thing is that none of our players have any weaknesses in any style now (except maybe my rustiness in turtle and allstar's grey play), so we can pretty much place anyone wherever we like...

I won maybe 45% of the time I used to play her...
Then I went gold, and flawessed her.

flipout
12-08-2006, 12:19 PM
Shhhhhhhh!

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Bold Stinks twelvypoo.

Bobcat
12-08-2006, 12:33 PM
Looking forward to Part three.

Terps rock
12-08-2006, 01:02 PM
Yeah Shroom gal, you need a different Language for part 3, I say go German!

TripleSeven
12-08-2006, 01:32 PM
Me being flawless was just an extreme example. I havnet gotten flawless in awhile. I never played you so didnt know your style so didnt know what i was going to get during the game so was just nerves unlike hatchet's game where I had play him a couple of times. I have beaten decent players without the help of the chantie so I tend to not use her. She is quite helpful in my default games tho was able to get to 1300 with it so not bad. I just have to somehow fit her into my set. :)

And terps sorry I dont remember getting flawless from u. Nor do I remembering losing to you. But since our game was played when I barely got into tao I wasnt a good player and right now im half decent so we'll see how i do vs you when we play again ;) I still have to play some people on here before I take a break from tao again. Winter break is coming up and all.

mantis33
12-08-2006, 01:42 PM
I like how people were saying "this war means nothing" earlier, but now that NJ is closing the gap, no one is saying it anymore. ;)

Terps rock
12-08-2006, 01:52 PM
Me being flawless was just an extreme example. I havnet gotten flawless in awhile. I never played you so didnt know your style so didnt know what i was going to get during the game so was just nerves unlike hatchet's game where I had play him a couple of times. I have beaten decent players without the help of the chantie so I tend to not use her. She is quite helpful in my default games tho was able to get to 1300 with it so not bad. I just have to somehow fit her into my set. :)

And terps sorry I dont remember getting flawless from u. Nor do I remembering losing to you. But since our game was played when I barely got into tao I wasnt a good player and right now im half decent so we'll see how i do vs you when we play again ;) I still have to play some people on here before I take a break from tao again. Winter break is coming up and all.

Do you seriously not remember losing to me... I flawlessed you the first day I went gold, you were still grey. And we used to play alot back in the day when we were both around 1300, so don't say you weren't good then.

HolidayForHire
12-08-2006, 02:03 PM
Do you seriously not remember losing to me... I flawlessed you the first day I went gold, you were still grey. And we used to play alot back in the day when we were both around 1300, so don't say you weren't good then.

So you flawlessed a grey with a gold? Is that supposed to be worth noting? :p

Terps rock
12-08-2006, 02:25 PM
So you flawlessed a grey with a gold? Is that supposed to be worth noting? :p

Psh, yeah! Because recently she had gone on like a run of wins against me.

HolidayForHire
12-08-2006, 02:33 PM
Psh, yeah! Because recently she had gone on like a run of wins against me.

haha okay, okay, seems fair to me

TripleSeven
12-08-2006, 02:39 PM
Do you seriously not remember losing to me... I flawlessed you the first day I went gold, you were still grey. And we used to play alot back in the day when we were both around 1300, so don't say you weren't good then.

Lol like i said I don't remember much about tao and especailly not right now brain is kinda fried at the moment give me a week and so till it starts working again maybe then I'll remember lol and I dont remember reaching 1300 as grey back then maybe i did eh see I cant even remember things about myself from a year or two ago so dont feel bad terps :P

gryph89
12-08-2006, 06:20 PM
Lol like i said I don't remember much about tao and especailly not right now brain is kinda fried at the moment give me a week and so till it starts working again maybe then I'll remember lol and I dont remember reaching 1300 as grey back then maybe i did eh see I cant even remember things about myself from a year or two ago so dont feel bad terps :P

Does that mean you don't remember me from 2 years ago, and in effect you dont remember me now?~~@~# :confused:

Terps rock
12-08-2006, 06:30 PM
Does that mean you don't remember me from 2 years ago, and in effect you dont remember me now?~~@~# :confused:

Gryph, I remember you and your abandoning of the clan...

gryph89
12-08-2006, 06:33 PM
Gryph, I remember you and your abandoning of the clan...

Haha, sometimes I need a change of pace. Leading takes it toll on you when your in danger of failing Highschool. But I always came back with a vengeance.

mantis33
12-08-2006, 06:33 PM
Gryph, I remember you and your abandoning of the clan...

He's back now so step off!

And I would hardly call it abandonement. He built AL from the ground up and look at us now. You can't expect people to play forever.

gryph89
12-08-2006, 06:36 PM
He's back now so step off!

And I would hardly call it abandonement. He built AL from the ground up and look at us now. You can't expect people to play forever.

This was back when the clan was only 1-3 months old before your time. I was failing highschool in danger of a fifth year because of it, no too mention I quit my job and some serious financial trouble. dont get me wrong, I was an idiot back then, I kinda walked down the long road of the "think before you bitch out road"

mantis33
12-08-2006, 06:40 PM
This was back when the clan was only 1-3 months old before your time. I was failing highschool in danger of a fifth year because of it, no too mention I quit my job and some serious financial trouble. dont get me wrong, I was an idiot back then, I kinda walked down the long road of the "think before you bitch out road"

Oh sorry terps, just trying to back my man up. :)




I realize that when I said "my man", it sounds a little homosapien?
But it wasn't supposed to! :p

Terps rock
12-08-2006, 06:40 PM
This was back when the clan was only 1-3 months old before your time. I was failing highschool in danger of a fifth year because of it, no too mention I quit my job and some serious financial trouble. dont get me wrong, I was an idiot back then, I kinda walked down the long road of the "think before you bitch out road"

Yeah, AL kind of fell into a lull... Me cows, and mei were the only ones I saw somewhat often.

gryph89
12-08-2006, 06:43 PM
Yeah, AL kind of fell into a lull... Me cows, and mei were the only ones I saw somewhat often.

Honestly, I've been trying to call it quits from this game for a while. But everytime I do leave, someone pulls me back. TAO is like smokes, you need a steady stream of it from time to time to fully quit.

Anarchy_United
12-08-2006, 06:47 PM
Honestly, I've been trying to call it quits from this game for a while. But everytime I do leave, someone pulls me back. TAO is like smokes, you need a steady stream of it from time to time to fully quit.

I tried to quit, and BAM!! war, I can't leave AL during a war!!!

LosPollos
12-08-2006, 06:51 PM
I tried to quit, and BAM!! war, I can't leave AL during a war!!!
You can't leave ever! You are the comedic relief :bigsmile:

Anarchy_United
12-08-2006, 06:52 PM
You can't leave ever! You are the comedic relief :bigsmile:

I'm in eggies siggy!!
*dances
*slathers up in nacho cheese

Terps rock
12-08-2006, 07:44 PM
Honestly, I've been trying to call it quits from this game for a while. But everytime I do leave, someone pulls me back. TAO is like smokes, you need a steady stream of it from time to time to fully quit.
I quit for a good time, the war brought me back to the site too often not to play ...

TripleSeven
12-08-2006, 07:46 PM
Does that mean you don't remember me from 2 years ago, and in effect you dont remember me now?~~@~# :confused:

Lol eddie I can't forget you ;) youre the only reason I became gold in the first place *cough* trying to keep the clan alive*cough* so when u come back AL is still there. So glad I invited bax and holiday or else I couldnt handle it. Leader is too much work :P And anyway I remember the oldies when i first started this game but not the games I had played.

Tag Captain
12-08-2006, 09:42 PM
I like how people were saying "this war means nothing" earlier, but now that NJ is closing the gap, no one is saying it anymore. ;)
The war still doesn't mean anything, man tits. Luck will still be too much of a factor in the result no matter who wins. You just want yet another opportunity to try and make us look bad. Have you noticed?

You're the only one who wants to cause trouble out of this war.

So concentrate on Round 3, unless you're sitting out again. I'm still hoping to get drawn against you and shut your mouth.

It's now 8 vs. 4, so 4 of the 8 are chosen to play the 4 netjak players. Say netjak win this round 3-1. Netjak then has 3 players left, and AL has 1 plus the 4 that sat out. So it's then 5 vs. 3. 3 of the 5 remaining ALers are chosen to play the 3 remaining netjak players. Say netjak win 2-1, then it's 3 ALers vs. 2 NJers, etc. This continues until all players from one team are beaten.
Your prediction sucks Bots :p .

Looks pretty good to me, solingro. :wink2:

Anarchy_United
12-09-2006, 05:44 AM
*shuffles
*eats cake

bludhoundz
12-09-2006, 07:07 AM
You're the only one who wants to cause trouble out of this war.


Actually.. from a rather unbiased perspective, I'd think netjakkers are causing more trouble out of this war. Several made a big deal out of luck (though some took it well, like El Cid), and saying that is the only reason they lost. Fine, and the ALers admitted that. But they didn't rub it in your guys' faces when they won.. whereas had netjak won 8-4, I can gaurantee 12 would have said something along the lines of "You know you shouldn't have started this war with us when we're beating you down this badly." I probably exaggerate, but I'm pretty damn sure I'd have seen some of those comments.

flipout
12-09-2006, 07:09 AM
Actually.. from a rather unbiased perspective, I'd think netjakkers are causing more trouble out of this war. Several made a big deal out of luck (though some took it well, like El Cid), and saying that is the only reason they lost. Fine, and the ALers admitted that. But they didn't rub it in your guys' faces when they won.. whereas had netjak won 8-4, I can gaurantee 12 would have said something along the lines of "You know you shouldn't have started this war with us when we're beating you down this badly." I probably exaggerate, but I'm pretty damn sure I'd have seen some of those comments.

Don't think to highly of anything.

Geeky_Bastard
12-09-2006, 07:29 AM
Actually.. from a rather unbiased perspective, I'd think netjakkers are causing more trouble out of this war. Several made a big deal out of luck (though some took it well, like El Cid), and saying that is the only reason they lost. Fine, and the ALers admitted that. But they didn't rub it in your guys' faces when they won.. whereas had netjak won 8-4, I can gaurantee 12 would have said something along the lines of "You know you shouldn't have started this war with us when we're beating you down this badly." I probably exaggerate, but I'm pretty damn sure I'd have seen some of those comments.

I was still trash talking when we were down :p

Twelve
12-09-2006, 08:00 AM
But they didn't rub it in your guys' faces when they won.. whereas had netjak won 8-4, I can gaurantee 12 would have said something along the lines of "You know you shouldn't have started this war with us when we're beating you down this badly." I probably exaggerate, but I'm pretty damn sure I'd have seen some of those comments.

Blud...c'mon man. First of all, a lot of this talking wouldn't be here if only AL and NJ people INVOLVED with the war only spoke to each other. That's one point.

Second of all, Firebrand has been in NJ thread both here and Legends talking trash, mentioning the score and his wins as if we don't know it. Rubbing it quite a bit in our faces. I don't care, because I'm like, "Whoever lasts laugh, laughs best".

Third of all, please don't say what I would or would not have said. You'll never find a post outside of the Netcave where I predicted a score. As a matter of fact, I only admitted after the score what my prediction was, admitted that I was wrong. Hence, I would have had the right to admit if I was right as well. I'm not going to be giving my judgements concerning this war until it's over.

The tone of this thread has been relatively calm compared to the prior, and indeed Mantis is someone involved with the war still talking trash. Let him. Let Bottle respond. But can people not involved be quiet and not stir the pot? That would be cool.

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gryph89
12-09-2006, 08:03 AM
I try not to stir it for multiple reasons lol. This being one of them ;)

bludhoundz
12-09-2006, 08:03 AM
Blud...c'mon man. First of all, a lot of this talking wouldn't be here if only AL and NJ people INVOLVED with the war only spoke to each other. That's one point.

Second of all, Firebrand has been in NJ thread both here and Legends talking trash, mentioning the score and his wins as if we don't know it. Rubbing it quite a bit in our faces. I don't care, because I'm like, "Whoever lasts laugh, laughs best".

Third of all, please don't say what I would or would not have said. You'll never find a post outside of the Netcave where I predicted a score. As a matter of fact, I only admitted after the score what my prediction was, admitted that I was wrong. Hence, I would have had the right to admit if I was right as well. I'm not going to be giving my judgements concerning this war until it's over.

The tone of this thread has been relatively calm compared to the prior, and indeed Mantis is someone involved with the war still talking trash. Let him. Let Bottle respond. But can people not involved be quiet and not stir the pot? That would be cool.

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Alright.. I admit I was making a big assumption there. I apologize, and I shouldn't have said anything.

I just think Bottle's comment was rather false and biased.. so I felt the need to voice my opinion. And OK, people on both sides talked smack. I didn't see FB do so, but I'll take your word for it.

I keep forgetting that I'm not part of this :dry: , so I'll stay out.

Geeky_Bastard
12-09-2006, 08:20 AM
Aww cmon Alex, Crx and I are the cheerleaders!

allstarGL
12-09-2006, 09:49 AM
Why has over a day gone by with no round three matchups? We should stop wasting the weekend to play.

Syko99
12-09-2006, 09:53 AM
Why has over a day gone by with no round three matchups? We should stop wasting the weekend to play.

ya u should get round 3 started so the war gets done with ..

Twelve
12-09-2006, 10:16 AM
Why has over a day gone by with no round three matchups? We should stop wasting the weekend to play.

I'm wondering the same thing. Mushroom was on the forums an hour ago. As I've sent our lineup to her, I can only assume that Bax still hasn't sent in his. But we need to move on this, since we Netjakkers have a somewhat important December 18th date.

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gryph89
12-09-2006, 10:52 AM
I'm wondering the same thing. Mushroom was on the forums an hour ago. As I've sent our lineup to her, I can only assume that Bax still hasn't sent in his. But we need to move on this, since we Netjakkers have a somewhat important December 18th date.

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Aye, personally, I think if it doesn't we should postpone it till after Christmas. Cause I know alot of people go to family during then.

Cliche
12-09-2006, 10:53 AM
Aye, personally, I think if it doesn't we should postpone it till after Christmas. Cause I know alot of people go to family during then.


There are only five more games to play, maximum.

It would be assanine to postpone it until after Christmas.

Twelve
12-09-2006, 10:59 AM
Aye, personally, I think if it doesn't we should postpone it till after Christmas. Cause I know alot of people go to family during then.

Heeeeeeeeck no.

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gryph89
12-09-2006, 11:19 AM
There are only five more games to play, maximum.

It would be assanine to postpone it until after Christmas.

You think I don't know that?

Heeeeeeeeck no.

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I share the same feelings as well. My only point was "IF" they weren't finished.

Tag Captain
12-09-2006, 11:47 AM
Just so everyone knows, from next Saturday onwards, my TAO time is going to be EXTREMELY limited. Until about ooh, early February.

So let's get this thing MOVING.

mushroom_girl
12-09-2006, 01:09 PM
I just got both sides of the rosters!

ROUND 3 IS UP!

:)

Dresicos
12-13-2006, 04:53 AM
Gonna close this thread too?

Tag Captain
12-13-2006, 12:18 PM
There was no need to, unless some REALLY REALLY SILLY PERSON bumped it.

Dresicos
12-13-2006, 03:07 PM
=)