The Non-Legends Servers

[OpixMK]

I'm just wondering, why do people play on Great Lakes, Banff, and Armageddon? In my opinion, Legends is clearly a better server.
Legends - 1. No grey account wipes
2. Beast Rider, Furgon, Frosty, Mud Golem drops
3. a 1 (or 2 for dbl gold) time payment instead of monthly
Other than that the Legends server is pretty much the same as the Non-Legends servers.
I don't mean to insult GL, banff, and Armageddon, but is there any special feature about them that would make them equal Legends?

[Wizzy`]

I'm just wondering, why do people play on Great Lakes, Banff, Revelation and Armageddon? In my opinion, Legends is clearly a better server.
Legends - 1. No grey account wipes
2. Beast Rider, Furgon, Frosty, Mud Golem drops
3. a 1 (or 2 for dbl gold) time payment instead of monthly
Other than that the Legends server is pretty much the same as the Non-Legends servers.
I don't mean to insult GL, banff, Revelation, and Armageddon, but is there any special feature about them that would make them equal Legends?

Revelations = Perma Gold, beast, mud, and frost drops.

revelations = Legends with different name.

[Soda]

The 2 scouts. :)

[Zander]

I'm just wondering, why do people play on Great Lakes, Banff, Revelation and Armageddon? In my opinion, Legends is clearly a better server.
Legends - 1. No grey account wipes
2. Beast Rider, Furgon, Frosty, Mud Golem drops
3. a 1 (or 2 for dbl gold) time payment instead of monthly
Other than that the Legends server is pretty much the same as the Non-Legends servers.
I don't mean to insult GL, banff, Revelation, and Armageddon, but is there any special feature about them that would make them equal Legends?
1)On legends, inactive accounts are wiped
2)Some people prefer only grey units, and don't care about these drops in any way
3)The Legends server is far more jam-packed with people, so individuals get less attention(5 dollars each month ensures better customer support?), and is also less moderated than the FPS servers, making it less desireable to some?

wizzy- rev doesn't have greys;)

and yeah, the 2 scouts :)

[Match Strike]

FPS
-Rarely long login wait
-Gray games less reliant on drops, more on skill
-Two scouts (pro or con, I suppose)
-Permanent Rev gold, no worrying about having to play grays
-Until recently, moderators, which Legends didn't have.
-Legends is a test server (ish)

[-57-]

I'm just wondering, why do people play on Great Lakes, Banff, and Armageddon? In my opinion, Legends is clearly a better server.
Legends - 1. No grey account wipes
2. Beast Rider, Furgon, Frosty, Mud Golem drops
3. a 1 (or 2 for dbl gold) time payment instead of monthly
Other than that the Legends server is pretty much the same as the Non-Legends servers.
I don't mean to insult GL, banff, and Armageddon, but is there any special feature about them that would make them equal Legends?

Probably because this place you speak of doesn't exist :)

[bludhoundz]

The point of having the unit drops there and not having them here is obviously one of choice.

If you like them, go to legends. If you don't really care, or aren't a fan, stay here.

Also the second scout is a big factor.

Personally, I like legends a lot too, but my real ties are here.

[C.H.I.L.L.]

i saw the outcome of this thread from a mile away...

[OpixMK]

To -57-
http://www.digisonline.com/tactics/play/
yes it does :D

[Merdoc.]

Revelations = Perma Gold, beast, mud, and frost drops.

revelations = Legends with different name.

The 2 scouts. :)

1)On legends, inactive accounts are wiped
2)Some people prefer only grey units, and don't care about these drops in any way
3)The Legends server is far more jam-packed with people, so individuals get less attention(5 dollars each month ensures better customer support?), and is also less moderated than the FPS servers, making it less desireable to some?

wizzy- rev doesn't have greys;)

and yeah, the 2 scouts :)

FPS
-Rarely long login wait
-Gray games less reliant on drops, more on skill
-Two scouts (pro or con, I suppose)
-Permanent Rev gold, no worrying about having to play grays
-Until recently, moderators, which Legends didn't have.
-Legends is a test server (ish)
And! Legends is always packed.

It is also run by FPS'ers.

[Ächilles]

It sucks because I'm not there.

[KBHoleN1]

To -57-
http://www.digisonline.com/tactics/play/
yes it does :D

Attention everyone, DO NOT click the link above! It is a virus! Legends is not real, it's only a scam to get you to click it.

But seriously, Legends has its ups and its downs. There are many people who play on both sites, and some prefer one or the other. No need to come here and ask stupid questions about them.

P.S. - It's really jackass-ish to call us "the non-legends servers"

[CRX687]

I'm just wondering, why do people play on Great Lakes, Banff, and Armageddon? In my opinion, Legends is clearly a better server.
Legends - 1. No grey account wipes
2. Beast Rider, Furgon, Frosty, Mud Golem drops
3. a 1 (or 2 for dbl gold) time payment instead of monthly
Other than that the Legends server is pretty much the same as the Non-Legends servers.
I don't mean to insult GL, banff, and Armageddon, but is there any special feature about them that would make them equal Legends?

1) that's exactly why some ppl DON'T like legends... too many accounts, golds don't get as good service.
2) Another reason... drops play a much bigger role in legends than they do here, so FPS is more balanced.
3) That's the only point you've made that can't be argued the other way... but it is necessary to maintain the better service FPS gets.

[Drain Bamage]

Revelations = Perma Gold, beast, mud, and frost drops.

revelations = Legends with different name.

Rev = no grays.

(I'm just too lazy to get a gold account on the forums)

[elimination]

I'm just wondering, why do people play on Great Lakes, Banff, and Armageddon? In my opinion, Legends is clearly a better server.
Legends - 1. No grey account wipes
2. Beast Rider, Furgon, Frosty, Mud Golem drops
3. a 1 (or 2 for dbl gold) time payment instead of monthly
Other than that the Legends server is pretty much the same as the Non-Legends servers.
I don't mean to insult GL, banff, and Armageddon, but is there any special feature about them that would make them equal Legends?
Haha, very funny:dry::butcher:
Legends is only one server of choice, and here there is 3 servers of choice for everyone, if your gold on any of them, then its 4 servers of choice.

[Snork]

but is there any special feature about them that would make them equal Legends?

It's not a feature, but you not being here makes this place better.

[stryker]

Yeah i know i'm gonna sound like a nub, but what does FPS stand for?
I know First Person Shooter and Frames per Second, but neither of those makes sense.

[Drain Bamage]

Yeah i know i'm gonna sound like a nub, but what does FPS stand for?
I know First Person Shooter and Frames per Second, but neither of those makes sense.

Flash Player Studio/s?

[Renozukenxx2]

Yeah i know i'm gonna sound like a nub, but what does FPS stand for?
I know First Person Shooter and Frames per Second, but neither of those makes sense.


It's cool, whenever I see FPS I automatically think of First Person Shooter. :p

[Zander]

cap'n like it's 1999:cool:

snork, never would've expected that from you!

[Megabyte]

I'm just wondering, why do people play on Great Lakes, Banff, and Armageddon? In my opinion, Legends is clearly a better server.
Legends - 1. No grey account wipes
2. Beast Rider, Furgon, Frosty, Mud Golem drops
3. a 1 (or 2 for dbl gold) time payment instead of monthly
Other than that the Legends server is pretty much the same as the Non-Legends servers.
I don't mean to insult GL, banff, and Armageddon, but is there any special feature about them that would make them equal Legends?

It's called "stability."

Active moderation, active improvements to server support, etc. Here, there are no (nor have there been) many of the many problems which have plauged the Legends server. No wipes, but at the cost of stability and bandwith for active players seems like hardly a positive tradeoff to me, but I'm pretty big on no tech issues wherever I game.

Could care less on the drops or cost, as $5 a month is hardly breaking my bank.

You get what you pay for, rule of the world and TAO reflects it in comparison to Legends. I played legends for a total of 2 weeks before coming here, and never regretted it, nor do I plan on ever returning.

[Hatchet Warrior]

I say play both servers and shut up.


Legends > FPS

[Wizzy`]

Rev = no grays.

(I'm just too lazy to get a gold account on the forums)
no grays = <3

I say play both servers and shut up.


Legends > FPS

!!!
Traitor!
Legends is a midget porn website!!!!!!

/snarr.

<.<

[Hatchet Warrior]

How am I a traitor? I came from legends.

[Wizzy`]

How am I a traitor? I came from legends.

Well..
Then you're a traitor from legends!

Yeah, i'm just gonna stop now, cause I like you, and I dont want you to hate me. :(

[uniquinous]

anyone notice the large number of people who think they should be mods here suddenly go to legends and sometimes get it? Not all just... sayin there's a trend here. I'm not saying Legends is for FPS rejects or anything, cuz it's not, but there's definately... something weird about that...

[Wizzy`]

anyone notice the large number of people who think they should be mods here suddenly go to legends and sometimes get it? Not all just... sayin there's a trend here. I'm not saying Legends is for FPS rejects or anything, cuz it's not, but there's definately... something weird about that...

no, legends is FPS rejects.
People who can't hack it here, or deal with the administration, go to legends, suck up, become something important.
It's really stupid.

But then again, I created "Augen Auf" Said I was a girl, and kissed ass..So yeah, FPS Rejects who can't hack it with the administration. :p

[Hatchet Warrior]

If legends sucks so much, we did we hit 1800, 1900 and 2000 first?

[Mr. LeGenD]

If legends sucks so much, we did we hit 1800, 1900 and 2000 first?

I am a full time legends player and I find both servers equal. To awswer your qustion HW, greys get gold units so they become beter and stronger players before you know it a grey is 1400 - 1600 in stats, Then heres when golds come along a jump good greys, they recive alot of points, then golds jump golds and thats how they get there stats, almost like a food chain.

[bullcat0]

almost like a food chain.

And you are a bottom feeder. :)

[Hatchet Warrior]

Just like here without the greys getting gold units part.
In the end, you'll agree with me. Every legender that has came here, has kicked ass.

[Wizzy`]

If legends sucks so much, we did we hit 1800, 1900 and 2000 first?
Because of what Deepsea said. Greys there dont get wiped, sooner or later you're gonna find a few sucky ass 1400+ greys. easy stats, and theres A LOT of boosters on legends, whether you know about them or not, there definetly is.

Just like here without the greys getting gold units part.
In the end, you'll agree with me. Every legender that has came here, has kicked ass.

I don't really care, both servers I like equally. I just like mkaing fun of legends
:p

[Drain Bamage]

That's because only the good ones come here.

[Hatchet Warrior]

Drain, is this why we took a good amount of your good guys? Our members stayed with us, but visited here. Like wayf and myself.

[bullcat0]

Just like here without the greys getting gold units part.
In the end, you'll agree with me. Every legender that has came here, has kicked ass.

With the exception of you I am guessing.

[dirka dirka]

How about.. they both have their pro's and con's so stfu about that. This is clearly FPS and not Legends, so their is a pro that you can't deny on these forums which are about FPS. Now GTFO.

[Hatchet Warrior]

With the exception of you I am guessing.

and this is exactly why I dislike you

[elimination]

and this is exactly why I dislike you
You dislike bc!!:confused:
Does that mean you dislike me too!:(
(almost just like him, but not as much skill as him)

[Hatchet Warrior]

No, just BC.

[bullcat0]

and this is exactly why I dislike you

And this is exactly why I like messing with you.

[Hatchet Warrior]

No, seriously if it wasn't for my leader position and loyalty to twelve, I would have left the clan already

[bullcat0]

No, seriously if it wasn't for my leader position and loyalty to twelve, I would have left the clan already

You started this little feud.

[Hatchet Warrior]

Actually, you did a long time ago.

[bullcat0]

Actually, you did a long time ago.

Actually, I was on legends and talking about how much of a noob The Big Kahuna is. So you decided to say that Army is easy to gain stats and everybody on there just sucks. That is the day our spat started.

[Hatchet Warrior]

Wrong again. Our orginal spat started back in the JW days, remember?

[bullcat0]

Wrong again. Our orginal spat started back in the JW days, remember?

When FryLock cheated and you decided to call all JW'ers liars for speaking the truth?

If that wasnt the time, then I do not recall.

[Hatchet Warrior]

This was a little before that, but that is was really sparked it.

[bullcat0]

This was a little before that, but that is was really sparked it.

Well I am happy that you know how to hold a grudge.

[MicSpor]

Hey HW.

:bye:

FPS > Legends. Don't deny it. Or lie. Like saying you are a leader. Pfft.

[Hatchet Warrior]

Well I am happy that you know how to hold a grudge.

What can I say, it's by far the most pissed I have seemed to be while online playing this game. That just pushed me a bit further.

[Mr. LeGenD]

How about.. they both have their pro's and con's so stfu about that. This is clearly FPS and not Legends, so their is a pro that you can't deny on these forums which are about FPS. Now GTFO.

To break this down I am loughing, we are all fighting over a danm computer game seriously guys, this sounds retarded. No server is the best keep it at that it's all equal. This discussion should end now.

[Hatchet Warrior]

You know that will never happen. This arguement will go on forever with or without this thread.

[Mr. LeGenD]

You know that will never happen. This arguement will go on forever with or without this thread.

Not if you pervent it.:dry:

[Hatchet Warrior]

Impossible.

[Mr. LeGenD]

You need to know something ( Nothing Is Inpossible )

[Hatchet Warrior]

I know that, but this is one of the many things that is impossible to prevent. It has been tried before, but never worked for long.

[AlabamaBoy]

I can think of something impossible.

Its not possible for John Fitzjerald Kennedy to walk into my house [the doors are locked] wearing a pink spacesuit, screaming the words "I love midgets in bikinis".

Therefor your wrong, some stuff is impossible.

Oh yeah, FPS > Legends

[Zander]

I can think of something impossible.

Its not possible for John Fitzjerald Kennedy to walk into my house [the doors are locked] wearing a pink spacesuit, screaming the words "I love midgets in bikinis".

Therefor your wrong, some stuff is impossible.

Oh yeah, FPS > Legends
Yes, it is.

no idea where those other quotes came from...

[Mr. LeGenD]

I can think of something impossible.

Its not possible for John Fitzjerald Kennedy to walk into my house [the doors are locked] wearing a pink spacesuit, screaming the words "I love midgets in bikinis".

Therefor your wrong, some stuff is impossible.

Oh yeah, FPS > Legends

Do you know how possible that is? He can just kick the frame he has that blue spacesuit out and he says the same exact words, if you informed him to do so.

[Snork]

I've been under the impression our community is more cohesive than legends.

Seed is lazier than Bills.

Bills knows how to answer his phone.

[Merdoc.]

Thats true Snork. Diablo 2 tomorrow sometime? If I don't work?

FPS > Legends any day of the week. FPS > Legends x2 on weekends.

[EleMENTAL]

I've been under the impression our community is more cohesive than legends.

Seed is lazier than Bills.

Bills knows how to answer his phone.

Yes, I have called seed a few times and he never answered.

Bills has answered a few times. I called him during a party once. He's a nice guy.

[Realist]

We exist.

[Ludican]

Ive just started playing legend's.. I upgradded 7 day's ago they all say seed's is away and the gold system down so my gold account isnt on yet.

Plus Rev's banff, great lakes, army, are much better becouse of the wipe i think legend's should have a wipe ive been playing grey's 1600+ now that's insane u get drop's in rev's so that's good. banff, great lakes, army u still get drop's but not gold unit's.

[Cuathon]

If legends sucks so much, we did we hit 1800, 1900 and 2000 first?

because you had omega for one. and for another, you have massive stat inflation due to no grey cancelling or gold cancelling. duh?

[Zander]

greys are cancelled on legends when they are inactive...second time that's been overlooked in this thread

[Hellblazer]

I don't mean to insult GL, banff, and Armageddon, but is there any special feature about them that would make them equal Legends?

1. Yes you do, you twit.
2. They exist, for one thing.
3. These are the actual servers instead of Seed's playground.
4. This is where most of the money comes from.
5. Grey accounts are treated as trial accounts, as they should be.
6. Go away, you're making me see myself in you when I was a hard-ass forum cop. It's scary.

[mantits33]

If legends sucks so much, we did we hit 1800, 1900 and 2000 first?
1. If you didn't have Omega your server would be nothing.
2. Without Judgement your server and everyone on it would be nothing.
3. Everyone on Legends boosts, and there are sucky greys that are 1300 - 1650, so it's easy to gain stats.
Just like here without the greys getting gold units part.
In the end, you'll agree with me. Every legender that has came here, has kicked ass.

Yeah, then they get their ass kicked by a 2-scouter. :p

[Cuathon]

greys are cancelled on legends when they are inactive...second time that's been overlooked in this thread

no one is over looking that. but so what if they are cancelled when inactive? theres still a massive build up of golds and greys with huge ratings.

[Magician]

If legends sucks so much, we did we hit 1800, 1900 and 2000 first?

Because all of your players are on one server. FPS is run through 3 servers, 4 including Rev. Not to mention you have the overly-inflated-egotistical-asshole that is Omega.

Just like here without the greys getting gold units part.
In the end, you'll agree with me. Every legender that has came here, has kicked ass.

Except, the greys here don't need gold drops to get to 1400+. Almost every grey that high uses a multitude of gold drops. Surely you can't deny that?

And I disagree with the whole every legender that came here thing. Sure, it was true once upon a time, but I owned FLAWLESS and The Stoner Master when they came here, to name a couple.

No, seriously if it wasn't for my leader position and loyalty to twelve, I would have left the clan already

Wait, the only reason you're in netjak is because you're a leader? Harsh words there, Hatchet. You're either in for the clan, or yourself. That comment makes it seem like you're in for the latter. That's something I would never have thought of any netjak leader.

Hey HW.

:bye:

FPS > Legends. Don't deny it. Or lie. Like saying you are a leader. Pfft.

I love you Miccy. :wub: :)

I've been under the impression our community is more cohesive than legends.

Seed is lazier than Bills.

Bills knows how to answer his phone.

I love you too, Snork. Just not in a sexual way. ;) Yet.

Thats true Snork. Diablo 2 tomorrow sometime? If I don't work?

FPS > Legends any day of the week. FPS > Legends x2 on weekends.

FPS > Legends 24/7.

I got an account up to 1624 there in under a week, only losing one game after golding. Talk about some serious nubs, eh?

We exist.

ROFL! I forgot about that rumour for a moment. Of course. Legends doesn't exist! >.<!

because you had omega for one. and for another, you have massive stat inflation due to no grey cancelling or gold cancelling. duh?

Omega, as I said before, is so full of himself he had to rank-camp 15 accounts just to make himself look good. Talk about a big ego. His is worse than Dape's. :p

~Mag

[Entourage]

I'm just wondering, why do people play on Great Lakes, Banff, and Armageddon? In my opinion, Legends is clearly a better server.
Legends - 1. No grey account wipes
2. Beast Rider, Furgon, Frosty, Mud Golem drops
3. a 1 (or 2 for dbl gold) time payment instead of monthly
Other than that the Legends server is pretty much the same as the Non-Legends servers.
I don't mean to insult GL, banff, and Armageddon, but is there any special feature about them that would make them equal Legends? i know im an idiot

These servers are better, hands down. :)

[Wizzy`]

We exist.

i said it first.

[HoodedH-TDP]

One special feature is TDP is on Army. ( yes it is on legends but not active there is only a few members)

[Wizzy`]

One special feature is TDP is on Army. ( yes it is on legends but not active there is only a few members)

Yup. Because TDP is the best clan on armageddon.

OUTKAST > TDP

Truth.

[HoodedH-TDP]

Yup. Because TDP is the best clan on armageddon.

OUTKAST > TDP

Truth.

i was saying why i dont play on legends, not whos the best clan :p

[Wizzy`]

i was saying why i dont play on legends, not whos the best clan :p

OUTKAST > TDP!

[HoodedH-TDP]

OUTKAST > TDP!

TDP=#1

[Wizzy`]

TDP=#1

OUTKAST = Legendary

[uniquinous]

guys focus! stop the petty fighting amonst ourselves and stay true to the petty fighting against the other server!

[Realist]

i said it first.

It bears repeating.

[Wizzy`]

It bears repeating.

Yeah, but I was first.

[Realist]

Yeah, but I was first.

Depends on how you define first.

[Matt 34.5]

FPS:
1) Double Scout
2) Server wipes
3) stability.

My 3 arguments to yours, and I have more. Though, the only reason I stay on army is because thats where the TDP members are. (Not the clan name, the members that make up the clan) I've never been in any clan with so little drama. Its mostly just concidered a good laugh when someone outside TDP tries to start problems, and anyone inside /expel. As for Hatchets comment, I hope if I ever said I only wanted to be in TDP because I was leader, and was loyal to T (Suggesting I didnt like the clan at all, and didnt want to be there) he'd expel me.

[Grocery Legs]

Yeah, but I was first.

Depends on how you define first.


How would you define first so that this is not true?

[Realist]

How would you define first so that this is not true?

First evar.

[Grocery Legs]

I don't think you started that whole thing.

[Realist]

I don't think you started that whole thing.

You think wrong.

[Grocery Legs]

You think wrong.

It is you, in fact, who is mistaken! I am never wrong.

[Magician]

On this, you most definitely are.

~Mag

[KBHoleN1]

I don't think you started that whole thing.

Well, he was pretty damn close. I love searching ...

http://tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?p=48692&highlight=legends+exist#post48692

The third post in that thread is by LondonJack ... as far as I can tell, this is the first direct mention that Legends didn't exist. Look who the next user to post is ... :rolleyes: And I love the text of that post, I miss xyx, Realist you pwn.

Do a search for "Legends exist," and you'll see that throughout that day (2/18/04) xyx spread the rumor quickly. Lolz.

[Realist]

Note that the OP in that thread mentions a "bunch of idiots on great lakes" who were the first to discover the truth. Who do you think those idiots were? :cool:

[Hatchet Warrior]

1. If you didn't have Omega your server would be nothing.
2. Without Judgement your server and everyone on it would be nothing.
3. Everyone on Legends boosts, and there are sucky greys that are 1300 - 1650, so it's easy to gain stats.


Yeah, then they get their ass kicked by a 2-scouter. :p

1. Omega only hit 2000 first, not 1900 :P
2. Judgement was a spawn of NJ you jackass.
3. Everyone on legends boosts? Don't make me laugh.

Is this why I beat half of your clan with 1 scout?

FPS:
1) Double Scout
2) Server wipes
3) stability.

My 3 arguments to yours, and I have more. Though, the only reason I stay on army is because thats where the TDP members are. (Not the clan name, the members that make up the clan) I've never been in any clan with so little drama. Its mostly just concidered a good laugh when someone outside TDP tries to start problems, and anyone inside /expel. As for Hatchets comment, I hope if I ever said I only wanted to be in TDP because I was leader, and was loyal to T (Suggesting I didnt like the clan at all, and didnt want to be there) he'd expel me.

I never said I was only in the clan to be leader. I was in the clan long before I became leader. What I was meaning to say is if it wasn't for my leadership responsiblities and my long time loyalty to him, i'd be retired.

[zz99]

Haha I look through one page, and I find nothing, but stupidity.

FPS are the commercial servers, they are about pure profit.

Legends is for those that would rather not pay as much, and have greys that can actually stand a chance against golds, but golds aren't guarenteed, and help may never come.

I almost pissed myself when I saw someone say legends is nothing without Omega. You apparently have never heard of the following people

1. Bodexxx
2. ~gladiator~
3. Aza
4. _-x-x-x-_
5. Tuff
6. Dragonscall
7. and quite possibly the best player in all TAO, Master of the Blade.

Bode, Glad, xxx, and Aza all gave omega a race for 2000, Bode being the closest to 2000 besides omega, which brings up the fact that legends would not be nothing without judgement considering the fact that 2 of those players are from CG. If it weren't for Omega it would just be netjak, CG, Prophecy, si, and other clans going for the lead clan.

Plus you should thank legends, if it weren't for slayers guild you probably wouldn't know what a clan is.

Now you say all legenders suck, and boost, yet I am from legends, and I have beat 5 golds on grey, while losing to only 1, and that was due to d/c, during the last week I spent here at fps, also considering the fact that in the legends/fps tourney, legends was up 5-10 games, and don't give me that most of the remaining games were home games for fps, and most of their best players already played, because it still gives you no room to talk about them sucking if they were ever at any given point ahead in that tourney.

Furthermore Omega is not the first person to reach 2000, if you ever heard of thesmikerboys you would know what I was talking about.

I find both servers have their own ups, and downs, neither server is better than the other, it is just opinionated, because if you go to legends they will say how much better they are than fps.

It's quite silly, and pretty annoying.

EDIT: One last thing, at next update, legends won't be just legends anymore, Pandemonium will be out. ^_^

[Match Strike]

FPS had the first person to reach 2007.

:)

[uniquinous]

EDIT: One last thing, at next update, legends won't be just legends anymore, Pandemonium will be out. ^_^
Yeah we've been getting a "new server" for a while now also :rolleyes:

If legends sucks so much, we did we hit 1800, 1900 and 2000 first?As mentioned: stat inflation. Where do your gold stats come from? Think about it. For the most part any stats gained = stats lost. But, if suddenly your greys are on average much higher then ours, then your noob golds who jump those greys on average get higher stats, and then when they play the higher golds, higher stats are passed. The average is predictably higher. If you'd like to prove me wrong, have Omegashin come over here and match his score - we'll see how fast he can do it. Also, note how many players you cram into a single server. Of course there will be more stats circulating.

Also, as Wizzy mentioned, yall got a ton more boosters. This speaks to moderation minimally, but much moreso your community (or lack thereof).

In the end, you'll agree with me. Every legender that has came here, has kicked ass.That's really poor proof. Everytime I go to legends I beat every grey, with my dropless formation and their gold-drop units. Why? Because acquiring better units without acquiting better SKILL is worthless. Any player who decides to cross domains with the attitude "let's see how much worse this server is" is making a self-fullfilling prophecy, because the only people who DO that, are generally MUCH better then average, REGARDLESS of whether they start from FPS or Legends.

Drain, is this why we took a good amount of your good guys? Our members stayed with us, but visited here. Like wayf and myself.You also took Deepsea Warrior. Seriously, ask yourself who your community leaders are. I'd group them like this:
10% MIA
20% awesome Legends originals
70% FPSers who couldn't acquire community leadership positions here and so went there
Don't talk up Legends based on who FPS rejected. I feel the strongest aspects of legends are the ones who started there, loved it, and gave back to the community because of that. NOT the ones who go where the "power" is (and I'm talking the entire hierarchy, not just mods).


You need to know something ( Nothing Is Inpossible ) nothing inpossible, eh? You need to know something: you're a moron. :dry:

I've been under the impression our community is more cohesive than legends.

Seed is lazier than Bills.

Bills knows how to answer his phone.Yeah I need to give him a call sometime. But yes, this community is much more cohesive, and the staff is either 1) not interfering, or 2) catering to the community based on feedback and what people want. I find the actions of this community drive down boosting and set an in game tone that is just more fun to be around. The worst fear of the staff here is that they might fail the community. The worst fear of many staff there seems to be freedom of speech, people giving their opinions openly, and contradicting them.

Did you know that about 2 months ago, their main subforum had 70% of its threads locked? I counted myself. The legends community is about censorship, not truth. I mean, I got warned for being too honest publicly and that if I didn't take things to PMs, action would be taken against me. Then when I take it to PMs, action is taken against me. :rolleyes: I must admit things have gotten *much* better there, and I attribute these changes to a few amazing moderators. But really, things are so tight-lipped sometimes!

I had a time where I was only hear for the game. That's passed. I think the community draws me in the most now. That's what I value.

[Match Strike]

EDIT: One last thing, at next update, legends won't be just legends anymore, Pandemonium will be out. ^_^
Ooh, he's in the know. It's like mini-Moose.

For the record, I play at both servers.

[uniquinous]

for the record, match strike is teh pwnz

[Match Strike]

I first played at Legends for about a week. When the server was too crowded to log in I went to FPS, and didn't come back for a year. As a still-newb I joined a clan on Banff, but after a week more it disbanded, and I went to Great Lakes, which is where I consider my real "roots" to be. For the past year I've been playing almost exclusively on revelations, as I have little desire to play grays with a gold account. On and off I go back to Digis for kickcs, because accumulating drops can be kinda fun, and that's the only place I seriously use any drops I get. On Rev I have 8 witches, three frosts, and two beast riders, but none of them have been very practical for me.

Edit: No, u teh pwnz!!!

[Mr. LeGenD]

Yeah we've been getting a "new server" for a while now also :rolleyes:

As mentioned: stat inflation. Where do your gold stats come from? Think about it. For the most part any stats gained = stats lost. But, if suddenly your greys are on average much higher then ours, then your noob golds who jump those greys on average get higher stats, and then when they play the higher golds, higher stats are passed. The average is predictably higher. If you'd like to prove me wrong, have Omegashin come over here and match his score - we'll see how fast he can do it. Also, note how many players you cram into a single server. Of course there will be more stats circulating.

Also, as Wizzy mentioned, yall got a ton more boosters. This speaks to moderation minimally, but much moreso your community (or lack thereof).

That's really poor proof. Everytime I go to legends I beat every grey, with my dropless formation and their gold-drop units. Why? Because acquiring better units without acquiting better SKILL is worthless. Any player who decides to cross domains with the attitude "let's see how much worse this server is" is making a self-fullfilling prophecy, because the only people who DO that, are generally MUCH better then average, REGARDLESS of whether they start from FPS or Legends.

You also took Deepsea Warrior. Seriously, ask yourself who your community leaders are. I'd group them like this:
10% MIA
20% awesome Legends originals
70% FPSers who couldn't acquire community leadership positions here and so went there
Don't talk up Legends based on who FPS rejected. I feel the strongest aspects of legends are the ones who started there, loved it, and gave back to the community because of that. NOT the ones who go where the "power" is (and I'm talking the entire hierarchy, not just mods).


nothing inpossible, eh? You need to know something: you're a moron. :dry:

Yeah I need to give him a call sometime. But yes, this community is much more cohesive, and the staff is either 1) not interfering, or 2) catering to the community based on feedback and what people want. I find the actions of this community drive down boosting and set an in game tone that is just more fun to be around. The worst fear of the staff here is that they might fail the community. The worst fear of many staff there seems to be freedom of speech, people giving their opinions openly, and contradicting them.

Did you know that about 2 months ago, their main subforum had 70% of its threads locked? I counted myself. The legends community is about censorship, not truth. I mean, I got warned for being too honest publicly and that if I didn't take things to PMs, action would be taken against me. Then when I take it to PMs, action is taken against me. :rolleyes: I must admit things have gotten *much* better there, and I attribute these changes to a few amazing moderators. But really, things are so tight-lipped sometimes!

I had a time where I was only hear for the game. That's passed. I think the community draws me in the most now. That's what I value.

I hate breaking out long posts, but none of you are understanding the stat problems for legends. The theory is, like I said before in my past - posts. Greys get to 1600+ with there gold units, then golds jump them if they could possibly could and rape there stats. It's not very easy to get your stats up on legends I find it quite hard. I lose alot here and then but I am a pwner there. Every netjaker that plays me I pwn sometimes, I atleast had to pwn 2 of the netjak 12 there still more to add to my list.


The Thing is, legends is more beter, more skill and more to learn. It's basically giving greys the chance so they could possibly win. But I just don't get why are we fighting over a danm internet game? Shesh! This is retarded, this is like nerdism. Uni that was a great post, but you need to describe why legends is there for.


Seed made legends to give people the money worths, he never deletes accounts aswell. And booster heck, if you don't reset the mods will kick you everytime you log on. That would suck if you wanted to play digisonline. I basically like legends, my skill as gotten really high, because he pushed me. I said to myself '' I am geting my ass kicked '' I just got my skills way up. I have hit 1500 - 1600 on legends in 2 weeks now. Maybe one day I'll break a week.


Legends is like a foodchain I will describe it.


1200 - 1300 Greys - High Greys/ Low Golds < Jump
1500 - 1600 Greys - Golds / Low Greys < Jump
1200 - 1300 Golds < High Greys / High Golds < Jump
1500 - 1600 Golds < Who Knows

It's like a food chain, 1500 - 1600 golds I have no idea what they do, they play sometimes greys that have 1600 but thats about it, they play golds with the same stats as them. I became some what of a turtler now. I beat some judgement members in judgement. All thow it took me alot of thinking.


nothing inpossible, eh? You need to know something: you're a moron. :dry:

Everything is possible you just gotta believe.




I learned something life isn't about fighting about stupid stuff everyday, seriously who cares what server is beter. As long as you got something to play on guys/ girls. If we didn't have computers none of this discussion never would of started I suggest we drop it, this is coming out to be a fest / flame war.

[zz99]

Also, as Wizzy mentioned, yall got a ton more boosters. This speaks to moderation minimally, but much moreso your community (or lack thereof).

That's really poor proof. Everytime I go to legends I beat every grey, with my dropless formation and their gold-drop units. Why? Because acquiring better units without acquiting better SKILL is worthless. Any player who decides to cross domains with the attitude "let's see how much worse this server is" is making a self-fullfilling prophecy, because the only people who DO that, are generally MUCH better then average, REGARDLESS of whether they start from FPS or Legends.

As I mentioned above i'm currently doing the same thing in fps, and I have seen alot of boosters on fps as well.

You also took Deepsea Warrior.

We also perma banned him.




Did you know that about 2 months ago, their main subforum had 70% of its threads locked? I counted myself. The legends community is about censorship, not truth. I mean, I got warned for being too honest publicly and that if I didn't take things to PMs, action would be taken against me. Then when I take it to PMs, action is taken against me. :rolleyes: I must admit things have gotten *much* better there, and I attribute these changes to a few amazing moderators. But really, things are so tight-lipped sometimes!

I would be willing to bet the warning was from prophet or bottle.

On legends the forums aren't official, they're run by Prophet, he give's us the priviledge of having a forum, and he pays for it, and everything so we can't exactly complain.

Also most of those threads are locked because of our 5 main noobs we got running around that make 5 threads a day, and 1000 post, but they are banned now so it doesn't matter.

Uni you were at LF a bit ago, and were arguing in fps's case there, you know that neither side is going to fall back. Both have it's ups, and downs, and I don't get why you're arguing about fps being better when you yourself at legends said that the argument was silly, and they both have their ups, and downs.

It's just stubborness on both sides of the argument, I would be willing to bet I will get negged for even arguing in LF's favor in the slightest way, that alone shows the ignorance of both sides of the argument.

Now how do you know that it's not Legends that is overinflated, but FPS that is underinflated?

[Dragonmaster123]

I hit 2007 on Banff as a gray.

[zz99]

I hit 2007 on Banff as a gray.

Yes I believe wizzy posted that on LF, and didn't you boost?

[Dragonmaster123]

No, your mom boosted.

[-Dape-]

Yes I believe wizzy posted that on LF, and didn't you boost?

Of course he did, lol.

[zz99]

Well it doesn't really matter because thesmikerboys beat everyone.

[Dragonmaster123]

thesmikerboys boosted too.

[zz99]

thesmikerboys boosted too.

You think I didn't know that? I was simply saying thesmikerboys beat everyone to 2000, if you can find where I said they did it legitimately, I would be willing to upgrade 10 of your accounts to gold for 3 years.

[Dragonmaster123]

Hi.

[uniquinous]

The Thing is, legends is more beterYeah let's just leave it at "more beter" :rolleyes: No, there's no more to learn - it's exactly the same game, inherently. The people here are arguing stat inflation, boosting, and the community.

I learned something life isn't about fighting about stupid stuff everyday, seriously who cares what server is beter. As long as you got something to play on guys/ girls. If we didn't have computers none of this discussion never would of started I suggest we drop it, this is coming out to be a fest / flame war.Did you learn that before or after I deleted 20 accounts of yours here? Before or after you were permabanned at LEgends? Let me know.

We also perma banned him.No, you didn't ;)
You think you did - that's cute. :p

On legends the forums aren't official, they're run by Prophet, he give's us the priviledge of having a forum, and he pays for it, and everything so we can't exactly complain.Why not? I don't understand this mentality. How many people do you see on TAO complaining about Seed not being around and updating things more? He gives you the priviledge to play the game, and you still have every right to complain. This is a basic freedom. Now the question is: are they the type of people who ban when people point out truth or complain? Or do they internalize criticism and try to better the community for it? I'd say it's rather split at LF, but the former category is "louder" then the latter.

Also most of those threads are locked because of our 5 main noobs we got running around that make 5 threads a day, and 1000 post, but they are banned now so it doesn't matter.That's not true and you know it. Last time I was there Bottle had locked *his own thread* because it wasn't entertaining him anymore. :rolleyes: Topics were locked if they strayed from their original point for more then a few posts, they were locked when the mods were being criticised, they were locked because intellecual discussion is sometimes "too religious in nature", and they were locked "just because". The reason you had noobs making the same thread OVER and OVER again is cuz the thread of that noob topic kept getting LOCKED. Spillover happens whenever you lock threads people aren't done talking about.

Uni you were at LF a bit ago, and were arguing in fps's case there, you know that neither side is going to fall back. Both have it's ups, and downs, and I don't get why you're arguing about fps being better when you yourself at legends said that the argument was silly, and they both have their ups, and downs.At the beginning of this quote you say I was arguing for FPS, and at the end you said I was arguing against the debate. It's still the latter. Each *does* have it's ups and downs, but let's face it, LF tries to hide its "downs" as much as possible. Me pointing them out doesn't mean I'm saying FPS is better then Legends. FPS has it's downs to - let's just call it what it is tho, and refrain from fooling ourselves. Specifically:
-Legends has *more* boosters
-Legends has a weaker community (and the two are related)
-Legends has stat inflation, and a lot of it
These are the things that keep getting denied when they are absolutely true. And yes, all the "downs" mentioned about FPS are true, but I think the community here acknowledges those openly...

Now how do you know that it's not Legends that is overinflated, but FPS that is underinflated?
Because whenever you start giving people a free set amount of currency for opening new accounts (in this case 750 stats), you automatically set the stage for inflation of that currency. This is basic economics. Supply and demand. You have a HIGH SUPPLY of stats on your server, not only because your greys don't get wiped regularly, but because you have more people crammed into one spot. Given that setup, there really isn't any way the stats could be underinflated...

[Megabyte]

Haha I look through one page, and I find nothing, but stupidity.

FPS are the commercial servers, they are about pure profit.



Which means they'll continue to operate, and be moderated, and run efficiently, long after Legends has crashed (again) from numerous problems.

[Tag Captain]

You're going to get a lot of Legends Forum members here as it got linked from one of our threads. :p

It's quite simple, though... neither is better. It just depends on what style of play you prefer and how long you intend to play TAO for. Legends is better for people that prefer slower games and are long-term players: single scout means it's harder to rush and cheaper for golds in the long run; but FPS is better for the aggressive gold players and people who only want to sample TAO for a few months.

[Megabyte]

You're going to get a lot of Legends Forum members here as it got linked from one of our threads. :p

It's quite simple, though... neither is better. It just depends on what style of play you prefer and how long you intend to play TAO for. Legends is better for people that prefer slower games and are long-term players: single scout means it's harder to rush and cheaper for golds in the long run; but FPS is better for the aggressive gold players and people who only want to sample TAO for a few months.


disagreed, the statment is opinion based without a context

Take me, 3 years of TAO here, not at Legends.

[kegsworth]

Wow, I wonder why I didn't look at this thread earlier . . . ?

Since I hail from FPS, my opinion is going to be slightly biased. But rest assured that I have played over at Legends for a while (as well as forumized), and the majority of the players/forumizes there are a bit more uptight then we are. Everyone there seems to be a Jeffery.

Maybe it's just my experience, but that was a turnoff for me. Hence my stay here. :)

[kegsworth]

Edit: Sorry, guys. The lag here is unbelievable. We keep dropping internet, and are in the process of getting it fixed.

Thanks.

[Cuathon]

You're going to get a lot of Legends Forum members here as it got linked from one of our threads. :p

It's quite simple, though... neither is better. It just depends on what style of play you prefer and how long you intend to play TAO for. Legends is better for people that prefer slower games and are long-term players: single scout means it's harder to rush and cheaper for golds in the long run; but FPS is better for the aggressive gold players and people who only want to sample TAO for a few months.

Ive played both extyensively and forumed on both quite a bit. I would rather pay the money to play here. the community is better overall, although you have a few good people. the game is better as well.

[mantis33]

I would just like to point out that mantits33 is not me. :dry:

[skev21]

I just think its retarded that my upgrade on legends server has been paid for for over a week now and it hasn't been uprgaded yet. I know its a lifetime account and I have it forever but the point is I've paid to have it now and not whenever they can be arsed to upgrade it for me. So mainly for the reason that the service here seems a lot better from my personal experience I currently much prefer FPS.

[zz99]

Why not? I don't understand this mentality. How many people do you see on TAO complaining about Seed not being around and updating things more? He gives you the priviledge to play the game, and you still have every right to complain. This is a basic freedom. Now the question is: are they the type of people who ban when people point out truth or complain? Or do they internalize criticism and try to better the community for it? I'd say it's rather split at LF, but the former category is "louder" then the latter.

That is different, you pay to play gold, so you would in some ways have a right to complain, but on LF you pay diddilysquat, so you have no right to complain.

That's not true and you know it. Last time I was there Bottle had locked *his own thread* because it wasn't entertaining him anymore. :rolleyes: Topics were locked if they strayed from their original point for more then a few posts, they were locked when the mods were being criticised, they were locked because intellecual discussion is sometimes "too religious in nature", and they were locked "just because". The reason you had noobs making the same thread OVER and OVER again is cuz the thread of that noob topic kept getting LOCKED. Spillover happens whenever you lock threads people aren't done talking about.

Bottle got huge criticism from absalom, and the mods let it go for quite a while before locking it, and it's LFs belief that if you have something against a mod or admin, you take it to the pms, you don't do it in public.

Plus that's just the way bottle is, deal with it, and move on.

At the beginning of this quote you say I was arguing for FPS, and at the end you said I was arguing against the debate. It's still the latter. Each *does* have it's ups and downs, but let's face it, LF tries to hide its "downs" as much as possible. Me pointing them out doesn't mean I'm saying FPS is better then Legends. FPS has it's downs to - let's just call it what it is tho, and refrain from fooling ourselves. Specifically:
-Legends has *more* boosters
-Legends has a weaker community (and the two are related)
-Legends has stat inflation, and a lot of it
These are the things that keep getting denied when they are absolutely true. And yes, all the "downs" mentioned about FPS are true, but I think the community here acknowledges those openly...

You kind of did both, so I had to put both in my post, as for you guys here admiting that fps has it's downs, if you guys do admit to it, then please tell me why I have 3 neg reps in this thread from defending legends.

As for stat inflation, i'm 1500 on legends, and i've beat quite a few 1500s here at fps, so take that for your stat inflation.

Also when I said deepsea got perma banned from legends I meant LF.

As for the person that negged me sayin "Dude, you're a moron. He never said anything about you saying he was legit." He said that thesmikerboys boosted, as if I didn't know that, or that I implied that they did get to 2000 legit, so I simply posted in response to his post.

[Mr. LeGenD]

<-- Not Perma banned from Legends, banned from there forums

[Renozukenxx2]

I just like playing on FPS because greys don't have any gold drops. To me, it's more fun to play no gold drops on grey because it requires a little more strategy. However, gold drops do bring a little variety to a formation. I'm going to go play Legends for a few hours, and see how the greys there use their gold drops.

[Mr. LeGenD]

It's funny how a person how negs someone who makes a good post, this thread is mostly on-topic but zz99 told me you guys are neggeging him when hes trying to defend, for legends. Siriously, he made a good post, and go ahead neg me I am at -3000 Like I care about neg rep at this point?

[gryph89]

Is this legends though? Why should legends care what FPS has to say if they're so 1337? And why does FPS care what legends have to say if we're also to 1337?

[Mr. LeGenD]

Why should we fight over a internet game awswer that.

[gryph89]

Why should we fight over a internet game awswer that.

Cause when opinions clash, people clash.

[Mr. LeGenD]

Well in my opionion people should ignore topics that they know will come out to be drama ...

[gryph89]

Well in my opionion people should ignore topics that they know will come out to be drama ...

And some people enjoy throwing gas into the fire. And thus, clashing of opinions and clashing of people...

[Mr. LeGenD]

And some people enjoy throwing gas into the fire. And thus, clashing of opinions and clashing of people...

Correct, so I guess we can't complain.No one CARES about no one now a days.

[gryph89]

Correct, so I guess we can't complain.No one CARES about no one now a days.

See, now I could argue that, but I'm eating dinner. SO let's all wish for world peace and free burgers.

[Mr. LeGenD]

See, now I could argue that, but I'm eating dinner. SO let's all wish for world peace and free burgers.

OY! :bigsmile:

[Match Strike]

I hate breaking out long posts
Me too, so I'll keep this short.
Seed made legends to give people the money worths, he never deletes accounts aswell.
First, legends was made as a test server. Second, accounts are deleted if they are not played on for either three or four weeks. I know because mine was when I left for 5 weeks this summer.

[Megabyte]

It's funny how a person how negs someone who makes a good post, this thread is mostly on-topic but zz99 told me you guys are neggeging him when hes trying to defend, for legends. Siriously, he made a good post, and go ahead neg me I am at -3000 Like I care about neg rep at this point?

the mistake was in the assumption that there is any logical reasoning or moral code behind the rep system

[Esko]

Noobs!!

Banff declares it's separation from all that is FPS and will start it's own business of manufracturing green archer doles. Suck it (joking)

[Mr. LeGenD]

Noobs!!

Banff declares it's separation from all that is FPS and will start it's own business of manufracturing green archer doles. Suck it (joking)

Great . . . Lets brag about it now ;) .

[Esko]

We could make all the little characters from TAO to satisfy your little boy needs of using those little doles to beat each other up. even though that is the game >.>.

[Mr. LeGenD]

We could make all the little characters from TAO to satisfy your little boy needs of using those little doles to beat each other up. even though that is the game >.>.

I thought things would never get dumber in this thread heh. ;)

[uniquinous]

That is different, you pay to play gold, so you would in some ways have a right to complain, but on LF you pay diddilysquat, so you have no right to complain.I have never once given a single cent to TAO. Nor have I paid LegendsForums. And yet I've complained at both places. I don't understand this mindset, and it's pretty rampand throughout Legends. Yes, you have a right to point at something and say it sucks, regardless of whether you paid for it or not, and no action should be taken against you so long as you express your ideas in a respectful manner.

Bottle got huge criticism from absalom, and the mods let it go for quite a while before locking it, and it's LFs belief that if you have something against a mod or admin, you take it to the pms, you don't do it in public.And yet, they locked it. And your mods give infractions for PMs as well. So you can't quite do it there either. Tell me then, where should it be done?

Plus that's just the way bottle is, deal with it, and move on.Again, the Legends mindset. :rolleyes: Why deal with it? Ever? I'm not just talking here, I mean anywhere in the world. If you see something wrong, why put up with it? Why not speak out? Why not change it? Make it better?! "we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men"

You kind of did both, so I had to put both in my post, as for you guys here admiting that fps has it's downs, if you guys do admit to it, then please tell me why I have 3 neg reps in this thread from defending legends.For the same reason I got negged at legends for defending FPS: people are immature, anywhere you go. Admitting to our "downs" doesn't mean we're perfect, it means we acknowledge our faults (and the one you just pointed out is one of them).

As for stat inflation, i'm 1500 on legends, and i've beat quite a few 1500s here at fps, so take that for your stat inflation.We've gone over this already. Many 1500s here beat many 1500s there. Similarly, you should note how you said "i've been quite a few 1500s here" and not "I've been ALL 1500s here". Have you beaten all 1500s here at FPS? Let me know ;)

I thought things would never get dumber in this thread heh. ;) If you want to help stop that, leave.

[dirka dirka]

Is this legends? No. So should we talk about legends, which has their own forum and game and right to their own opinion, here? No. Talk pro's and con's all you would like. It does not matter. If you like legends better, 10 gold stars, have fun there. Well, here, we happen to like FPS better (for the most part). So do us a favor and realize that it doesn't matter if you like legends better or even if you can prove as a solid fact that legends is better. We, in our opinion, like FPS more. Topic over. Don't respond. This is it. It is all about option and opinion if you talk pro's and con's, you won't get anywhere.

Edit: Me and uniq even agree on this stance. If me and uniq agree, that means 100% that what we agree on is correct. No ifs ands or buts.

[Snork]

And why does FPS care what legends have to say if we're also to 1337?

Because Legends players are coming in to bothing us.
If they showed maturity about coming in here, maybe we wouldn't mind.

Dirka, you, uniq, AND I all agree on your points.
Isn't that something? :D

[uniquinous]

aw crap, the world better not be ending...

[OmegaShin]

I rarely post, but some replies to this thread are really stupid.

You can't compare the 2 servers, obviously people with ties to fps will say fps is better, people tied to legends will say legends is better, no matter what.
There is still this silly hostility between the 2 servers which makes no sense. Legends is seed's server, the server made to test new updates, and fps is the commercial server, the server because of which there are new updates.

The real difference is mainly the drops and the double scouts. As a legender, and someone close to seed, obviously i am for the single scout since the ambusher unbalanced the game. On legends with 1 scout only and the possibility of having multiple frosts there is a real balance between rushes and turtles. This is a matter of fact, just as the fact that seed wanted to remove the second scout from here too to rebalance the game. So if people like playing 2 scouts that's ok, it has it's strategies as well, but only people with mediocre skills can say that the game with 1 scout and drops is unbalanced.

Another difference is the support, which is much better on fps. Me and prophet help seed when possible, but there are times when he just disappears and legends has hard times. The stat inflation is also true, however you can't blame me of reaching 2000 because of it as during the race back in the day i only played top players, plus when i was leading netjak i played on banff for 2 weeks and got their lead acc to 1750 and on gl 1 week and got their lead acc to 1700. The reason why i left fps and didn't come back is that here it's 3 main servers with people scattered around so it became almost impossible to find games. On legends being so many people on one server is positive in my opinion as you can find games against good players on all times of day.

True as uniq says that our forums are different, me and prophet made them more as a place to get fun. We were normal players afterall, and we are active on our forums differently from your admins.

I don't understand why mods didn't close this thread. It's basically a childish fight to flame people from the other servers. You should have more respect for legends as legends is tao just as fps is. If such thread was made on my forums becoming only a purpose to flame fps i would have locked it, however the maturity level of your mods maybe is not high enough. And yet one of your mods blames bottle.

[dirka dirka]

The maturity level of your mods is not high enough.

What??!! :confused:

[zz99]

Nice post by Omega ^^



And yet, they locked it.

http://www.legendsforums.com/showthread.php?t=6612&page=6&highlight=bottle+is+a+tyrant+on+the+rise

Look at the next to last page, it became a spamfest betweem me, killerdude, tay, and various other people, so they locked it.


For the same reason I got negged at legends for defending FPS: people are immature, anywhere you go. Admitting to our "downs" doesn't mean we're perfect, it means we acknowledge our faults (and the one you just pointed out is one of them).

If you don't remember I pos repped you multiple times because I knew that would happen.

We've gone over this already. Many 1500s here beat many 1500s there. Similarly, you should note how you said "i've been quite a few 1500s here" and not "I've been ALL 1500s here". Have you beaten all 1500s here at FPS? Let me know ;)

I beat 5 1500s here using grey, I mean come on, but I am considered underated at legends so that kind of cancels out my argument :dry:

By the way uni, where is my rematch you were suppose to give me from two years ago? Meh, I probably would get destroyed now anyways, i'm little rusty.

[bludhoundz]

I beat 5 1500s here using grey, I mean come on, but I am considered underated at legends so that kind of cancels out my argument :dry:



I consider the skill levels on both the servers equal.

If you want to argue that you beat 5 1500's here with a grey, I can pull out a dozen arguments that equal that out. For example, I've beaten a 1700 gold with a dropless grey (not to mention they had a turtle) on legends.

I do not consider that to mean that players on legends are bad. Rather, some players on both of the servers obviously don't fulfill their stats. You can brag about how you pwned so and so, and this many FPSers, but that doesn't make your server a better one.

Arguing the skill levels between the servers is completely subjective in every way, and thus becomes an invalid argument.

As for the other stuff; it's personal preference. There are ups and downs to both. Some consider legends a better deal, some consider FPS a better deal. People are going to be inclined to believe what THEY believe, not what one tells them to believe.

[uniquinous]

Another difference is the support, which is much better on fps. Me and prophet help seed when possible, but there are times when he just disappears and legends has hard times. The stat inflation is also true, however you can't blame me of reaching 2000 because of it as during the race back in the day i only played top players, plus when i was leading netjak i played on banff for 2 weeks and got their lead acc to 1750 and on gl 1 week and got their lead acc to 1700. The reason why i left fps and didn't come back is that here it's 3 main servers with people scattered around so it became almost impossible to find games. On legends being so many people on one server is positive in my opinion as you can find games against good players on all times of day.Sounds like a reasonable preference - and I don't think anyone *blames* you for reaching 2000, I think they just put it with the part in red I highlighted above.

True as uniq says that our forums are different, me and prophet made them more as a place to get fun. We were normal players afterall, and we are active on our forums differently from your admins. This is where you gain my respect. Normal players who had a complaint, and did something about it to make things better.

I don't understand why mods didn't close this thread. It's basically a childish fight to flame people from the other servers. You should have more respect for legends as legends is tao just as fps is. If such thread was made on my forums becoming only a purpose to flame fps i would have locked it, however the maturity level of your mods maybe is not high enough. And yet one of your mods blames bottle... ...

WHy should mods close this thread? Because people disagree? Why is that a bad thing? The flaming hasn't gotten out of hand, and the community leaders have been pretty reasonable in correcting noob-comments made out of pride instead of logic. Why does disagreement mean it should be locked? This is really the LF mindset I don't understand.

The role of a moderator is NOT to hide a problem by locking up freedom of speech and burying beliefs. The role of a moderator is to MODERATE. Being a community leader is about correcting mistakes, not burying them in-tact. I guarantee you that more good was done here educating people, openly talking about it to sift through fact from fiction, then just locking it. There's a reason LF gets 10X the repetitive noob threads: the problems are still there.

So it seems to me the insight into group dynamic of our mods is much higher then the ones at LF. You're fooling yourself if you pass that off as immaturity.

And yes, I blame Bottle (since we're on the topic of immature mods) for taking action against a user with respectful constructive criticism in a PM, for locking his own threads because he got tired of them, for locking threads because a few posts were off topic. You do realize you are allowed to say "let's get back on topic", right?

If you didn't want open discussion, disagreement, and the sharing of ideas freely, why on Earth did you create online forums?

[OmegaShin]

I rarely close threads on my forums. However i would close a thread on legends forums with the function of only making bad blood between our members and members of another forum.
This is not legends, it is fps. Our problems are not your problems, so your comment about not locking a thread and discuss problems doesn't apply.

The big majority of mediocre members of both our forums would flame to death people from the other ones just because they are from a different place. So yes, flaming may have not gotten out of hand *yet*, but this thread is only making more bad blood between fps and legenders and that's why if i had something similar on my boards i would have locked it.

And i wouldn't say that fps' community education is better than ours, afterall the worst members of our forums are rejects coming from these boards after getting banned here. There is a lot more drama on here than on our forums, and i am glad of it.

[kegsworth]

I think I'll take another look at Legends, just to see if anything's changed since I last was there.

Hopefully I got repped since I've been gone. [/LOSER]

:eek:

[uniquinous]

The big majority of mediocre members of both our forums would flame to death people from the other ones just because they are from a different place. So yes, flaming may have not gotten out of hand *yet*, but this thread is only making more bad blood between fps and legenders and that's why if i had something similar on my boards i would have locked it.Except... there is somthing similar (http://www.legendsforums.com/showthread.php?t=6667) on your boards.. ... LoL!

Now I find this interesting. We look at the FPS version of the thread, started by a Legender, and this community tries it's best to correct misconception on *both* sides of the argument - I would say that has great value to it. Now let's look at the Legends version of the same topic...

It's just everyone saying "I like _____" better. Logic, reason, and discussion are nowhere to be found.

And i wouldn't say that fps' community education is better than ours, afterall the worst members of our forums are rejects coming from these boards after getting banned here. There is a lot more drama on here than on our forums, and i am glad of it.That's cuz you lock and/or ban anyone that produces a disagreement. I think there might be a correlation there... :rolleyes:

But, as you said - you have our rejects. I would say tho, on average, the community as a whole is much more likely to stear bad threads in a better direction here, rather then there. LF relies much more heavily on mod lockage instead of community self-moderation (or rather, it has in the past).

[OmegaShin]

Didn't notice that thread yet. But if you see most posters in it are either just saying "i prefer this" or talking about off topic stuff rather than flaming.

I don't see how ur self moderation is better since it is either people who get just ip banned (and come to us for a second chance) or people flaming each other over various reasons, sometimes even boosting reputation (which is probably the most stupid thing i've seen as a reason of fighting).

As a matter of fact in this thread the legenders which posted did it with some maturity and just neutrally explained why they prefer legends. On the other hand most times a user from these boards comes to ours he starts flaming (and sometimes swearing too) just like a racist would swear against a black man.

[uniquinous]

lol I like how you jumped from "come to our boards" to "racism". Prejudice is ugly regardless of where it is.

But no, you can't say your version is flame free. It's everyone agreeing with one another, and upon the first person voting for GL, we get:
Who is the ass that voted for Great Lakes?!!!??!!!

And no, your legender has zero neutrality here if he names the thread "non-legends servers". I think at that point, the bias has already been well established. He also showed within his opening post how ignorant he is. He firmly set his conclusions and ended with a "what makes you special?". I think the tone is pretty clear - how do you call that neutrality or maturity?

As for the cross-domain flame-fest - it happens both ways. It sucks - there's nothing either side can do about it. It's the same as the "I went there and beat lots of people" argument. But, as I said, FPS has this tendency of admitting our faults. Do you not think legenders don't flame FPS (especially if any sites are down).

But the fact remains: there are absolutely freedom of speech issues at LF. People are afraid to speak freely, especially when it comes to intellectual or controversial arguments (such as gay marriage or religion). People hold their tongue because they think they will have action taken against them. Do you find that a good thing? I would say no.

You and I could not have this discussion on Legends. That should tell you something. Yes it's controversial - yes we're clashing - and yet I still maintain respect for you (despite my sarcasm at times). This is a good thing, and I'm glad to see the other point of view on this.

btw, how do you feel LF has been since the drastic lock-reduction?

[KBHoleN1]

Why does it even matter? Why doesn't everyone just stay on their own damn forums if they want to? If you like Legends, go to Legends. If you like fps, stay here. If you like both, frequent both (God forbid!).

One isn't "better" than the other. I like fps, because of the atmosphere. Legends just seems to disorganized. But if I want to have some unbridled fun, I go play over there and get some really good games. But then I get tired of facing all the drops, and getting jumped by golds every other game, so I come back over here. That's just me. When I had access to a gold over there, I loved playing with 2 frosts, prob the most fun I've had on this game. But I choose to stay here - so what?

Please guys, just leave it alone. To Omega: We realize that all of your members won't understand this, as long as you realize that neither will ours. But for the most part, lets TRY not to flame each other, and if we visit the boards of the other server, we won't start riots or call you names :rolleyes: Cool? Consider yourself an ambassador of your server, the nicer you are, the more likely you are to gain recruits.

[Geoffrey]

Uni > Omega.

[zz99]

I do not consider that to mean that players on legends are bad. Rather, some players on both of the servers obviously don't fulfill their stats. You can brag about how you pwned so and so, and this many FPSers, but that doesn't make your server a better one.



Just so you know, I never said legends was better, just that if there is a stat inflation on legends why I was capable of beating all the players with equal stats here as mine on legend that I played, but like I said, I am underated on legends, so my argument is pointless.

[Wizzy`]

Uni > Omega.

Agreed.

[dirka dirka]

Everyone still fails to accept that flaming can and is a valid type of argument and/or debate and/or communication of information. Granted, it is not the best form and I would go as far to say that it could be the worst form. Any communication is better than none. A civil aspect must be retained for what? At times, flaming is the only way to get a point across. So let's be civil, just remember, civilization kills forests but cavemen never did.

You say people go to your forum and "flame" right off the starting line, well did you ever wonder why? No? Good. I'll tell you why: They are outnumbered, flaming creates attention. I'm sure I could come up with many other reasons. I'm not saying I can justify it though, so don't think that I am. I'm just saying that you need to get some insight, past what you already think you know and believe.

[Merdoc.]

Your a Uniq!

Rofl.

[zz99]

Your a Uniq!

Rofl.

I think you mean Eunich :P

[Supersmiley :-)]

Well obviously everyone here like banff great lakes and army so you should post this in the legends forum

[Geoffrey]

Just so you know, I never said legends was better, just that if there is a stat inflation on legends why I was capable of beating all the players with equal stats here as mine on legend that I played, but like I said, I am underated on legends, so my argument is pointless.

Lol, i seriously just LOL at you. You actually think you could beat all the 1500's here. That is just hilarious. You sir are a TOOL.

Oh and i neg'd you because i think you are a tool. Why come to FPS servers forums and start trying to talk trash like you do? If you do what you have done expect to be flamed. It's just like if i go to legends forums and start posting that FPS is better, i will get flamed. Oh and Omega will probably ban me like he does to every other person who speaks their mind. So much for the 'Public' forum.

[Zander]

I think you mean Eunich :P

it's spelt eunuch...but jesus christ man, burn!

[Tag Captain]

Lol, i seriously just LOL at you. You actually think you could beat all the 1500's here. That is just hilarious. You sir are a TOOL.

Oh and i neg'd you because i think you are a tool. Why come to FPS servers forums and start trying to talk trash like you do? If you do what you have done expect to be flamed. It's just like if i go to legends forums and start posting that FPS is better, i will get flamed. Oh and Omega will probably ban me like he does to every other person who speaks their mind. So much for the 'Public' forum.
Actually, I would ban you for attacking other members without cause. You, sir, are an idiot. Don't discriminate on the grounds of home server.

A lot of other people would do well to do the same. Don't comment until you have tried both for a long period of time without preconceptions.

Edit: Just read the last few pages I've missed. I had a particular laugh at the way uniq said "the worse evil is when good men do nothing" as if he was the good man coming to spread light to the darkness of LF. Good stuff, but you're welcome to keep him. :)

[Wizzy`]

I find it funny that most people went to legends after the whole 12 incident, and those who followed him got rewarded.

[uniquinous]

Edit: Just read the last few pages I've missed. I had a particular laugh at the way uniq said "the worse evil is when good men do nothing" as if he was the good man coming to spread light to the darkness of LF. Good stuff, but you're welcome to keep him. :)I was just downcasting people who sit around and do nothing about a problem. If you take the exact opposite meaning in that I was *really* saying that I'm awesome for not just sitting around then.... ok? Remember, LF was created for that very reason.

By the way Bots, I noticed that LF hasn't reverted back to the original lock-everything mentality. Should I interpret that as proof of working concept? Dare I ask: were the changes I fought for... beneficial!?
I find it funny that most people went to legends after the whole 12 incident, and those who followed him got rewarded.Yeah pretty much.


Geoffry - I really do appreciate your enthusiasm - just remember that these are guests in our house. Treat them well, respect them, logically point out where you think they are wrong. :)

[RAGING INFERNO]

I'm just wondering, why do people play on Great Lakes, Banff, and Armageddon? In my opinion, Legends is clearly a better server.
Legends - 1. No grey account wipes
2. Beast Rider, Furgon, Frosty, Mud Golem drops
3. a 1 (or 2 for dbl gold) time payment instead of monthly
Other than that the Legends server is pretty much the same as the Non-Legends servers.
I don't mean to insult GL, banff, and Armageddon, but is there any special feature about them that would make them equal Legends?


this is why people go on commercial servers

1. there are grey wipes in legends, you just have to play every once in a while

2. there is no chat censor for greys or for blatant swearing in legends.

3. golds get jumped by grays more often!! ;)

4. you have to earn your muddies unless you pay 20 bucks..(i'd know, im a double gold.) :) these are just a couple of the reasons. im sure some other members of our community could come up with more

[zz99]

Lol, i seriously just LOL at you. You actually think you could beat all the 1500's here. That is just hilarious. You sir are a TOOL.

Oh and i neg'd you because i think you are a tool. Why come to FPS servers forums and start trying to talk trash like you do? If you do what you have done expect to be flamed. It's just like if i go to legends forums and start posting that FPS is better, i will get flamed. Oh and Omega will probably ban me like he does to every other person who speaks their mind. So much for the 'Public' forum.

Geoffery, you are the tool.

I have not insulted one person since I have been here, so I don't see where you are coming from. You negged me for defending legends, not insulting anyone here.

Also why should I expect to be flamed simply for defending legends? Uni is over at legends, in basically the same thread defending fps, and not a single person there is flaming him, this shows the difference in maturity between the two forums.

On LF, we are arguing about it yes, but no one is flaming, also I would be willing to bet no one negged uni over there while he was defending legends.

[Hellblazer]

Geoffery, you are the tool.

I have not insulted one person since I have been here, so I don't see where you are coming from. You negged me for defending legends, not insulting anyone here.

Defending Legends is insulting everyone here. That test server is in no way better than our servers, and you know it. You can call it equal, but that's about it. Legends just takes the idea of a trial account and shuns it away. Where's the money there, hm?

[Geoffrey]

Why was uni defending Legends on their own forums? You actually insulted people by claiming that you could beat all the 1500's here. Which for some unknown reason i don't think you would. I did not neg you here for defending legends. I neg'd you because you are a tool. You brought all the flaming on yourself by starting this thread. It was a stupid idea and still is. If you don't like how FPS servers are run, Don't come here. If you don't like how our forums are run, do not come here.

EDIT:
If legends is better, why do people stay here and play?
If legends is better why do more people know about FPS servers than they know about the Legends server?
If legends is better why did they virtually copy our forums style?
If legends is better why has one player totally ruined all the clan's ranking?

[bludhoundz]

EDIT:
If legends is better, why do people stay here and play? Because people have different preferences
If legends is better why do more people know about FPS servers than they know about the Legends server? Take some kind of statistical check on this recently Geoff?
If legends is better why did they virtually copy our forums style? This is irrelevant. Bills ordered a custom made style, so it is very good. He has the money to do so, the legends forums admins have to work off of donations
If legends is better why has one player totally ruined all the clan's ranking?Clan ranking is irrelevant in the end. Caring about clan ranking gets people to only enjoy this game for the numbers. It should be enjoyed for the fun.

I would like to cap it off: where did anyone but the idiot who made this thread say legends was better?

Geoff, stop making assumptions.

[Geoffrey]

Bludz but see people would answer those questions differently. I just pisses me off when some-one comes here and makes some idiotic post like the first on this page. Why didn't he just stay the hell in the Legends forums? Than coming here and causing shit like he did.

[Hellblazer]

You can be against that post I made on page 11 all you want, Blud, but I stand by it. The gameplay on Legends completely destroys the whole idea of golds being a better idea than a trial grey. I mean, it doesn't make alot of sense.
Suit yourself, though.

[uniquinous]

Also why should I expect to be flamed simply for defending legends? Uni is over at legends, in basically the same thread defending fps, and not a single person there is flaming him, this shows the difference in maturity between the two forums.That's... not quite true at all. The first person who voted for GL on that thread got flamed. I'm getting flamed constantly, and there are numerous people just spouting off false accusations and lies about these servers, based on their misguided opinions and pride. Bottle, unable to stop debate now by locking a thread, is specifically telling people to ignore me in hopes that truth won't be brought forth - it helps leave people ignorant. Logic is like water to the flaming tho.

You can be against that post I made on page 11 all you want, Blud, but I stand by it. The gameplay on Legends completely destroys the whole idea of golds being a better idea than a trial grey. I mean, it doesn't make alot of sense.
Suit yourself, though.I agree. I was over there yesterday and played a "grey" with 2 frosties, a mud, and a beast. I lost (just barely). The strategy, gameplay, and overall feel of the game is completely different. I think playing a dropless gold with my dropless grey would have been a more fair match. :rolleyes:


EDIT: legends locked their version of this cuz they couldn't take the criticism :p

[zz99]

Why was uni defending Legends on their own forums? You actually insulted people by claiming that you could beat all the 1500's here. Which for some unknown reason i don't think you would. I did not neg you here for defending legends. I neg'd you because you are a tool. You brought all the flaming on yourself by starting this thread. It was a stupid idea and still is. If you don't like how FPS servers are run, Don't come here. If you don't like how our forums are run, do not come here.

Ok you are taking everything I have said, and twisting it. For one when did I say I could beat all the 1500s? I want you to find where I said that.

I started this thread? Why in hell do you think I started this thread? Mr. legends is the one that started it, at least I think.

EDIT: nevermind it was opixmk or something like that.

And finally when did I ever say I don't like the way these forums are run? If anything I think they're run better than the LF forums.

You assumed way to much, and none of your info on this particular post is correct.

EDIT:
If legends is better, why do people stay here and play?
If legends is better why do more people know about FPS servers than they know about the Legends server?
If legends is better why did they virtually copy our forums style?
If legends is better why has one player totally ruined all the clan's ranking?

Again, I NEVER said legends is better, i'm just defending it.

Defending Legends is insulting everyone here. That test server is in no way better than our servers, and you know it. You can call it equal, but that's about it. Legends just takes the idea of a trial account and shuns it away. Where's the money there, hm?

Uni, this is the stuborness I was talking of.

And yet AGAIN, I NEVER said Legends is better. It's not the test server, it's seeds server, and the original server.

[Cuathon]

Haha I look through one page, and I find nothing, but stupidity.

FPS are the commercial servers, they are about pure profit.

Legends is for those that would rather not pay as much, and have greys that can actually stand a chance against golds, but golds aren't guarenteed, and help may never come.

I almost pissed myself when I saw someone say legends is nothing without Omega. You apparently have never heard of the following people

1. Bodexxx
2. ~gladiator~
3. Aza
4. _-x-x-x-_
5. Tuff
6. Dragonscall
7. and quite possibly the best player in all TAO, Master of the Blade.

Bode, Glad, xxx, and Aza all gave omega a race for 2000, Bode being the closest to 2000 besides omega, which brings up the fact that legends would not be nothing without judgement considering the fact that 2 of those players are from CG. If it weren't for Omega it would just be netjak, CG, Prophecy, si, and other clans going for the lead clan.

Plus you should thank legends, if it weren't for slayers guild you probably wouldn't know what a clan is.

Now you say all legenders suck, and boost, yet I am from legends, and I have beat 5 golds on grey, while losing to only 1, and that was due to d/c, during the last week I spent here at fps, also considering the fact that in the legends/fps tourney, legends was up 5-10 games, and don't give me that most of the remaining games were home games for fps, and most of their best players already played, because it still gives you no room to talk about them sucking if they were ever at any given point ahead in that tourney.

Furthermore Omega is not the first person to reach 2000, if you ever heard of thesmikerboys you would know what I was talking about.

I find both servers have their own ups, and downs, neither server is better than the other, it is just opinionated, because if you go to legends they will say how much better they are than fps.

It's quite silly, and pretty annoying.

EDIT: One last thing, at next update, legends won't be just legends anymore, Pandemonium will be out. ^_^

smikerboyz boosted :)

as for the slayers guild, now you are being ignorant. clansd guilds or whatever are a MAJOR part of MANY online games. SI, the oldest of the FPS clans did not get the idea of a clan from Slayers Guild.

[the_king]

Its ridiculous to argue this point. opinions are like belly buttons, everyones got one.simply state that the fps servers are better. i own a legends gold but stop playing on it when my stat was 772, you know y? because i paid ten dollars for it and all these greys where havin all most the same units for free. i want a challenge if im grey or gold, not having it handed to me. and yes it has been said but the legends server is over crowded with ppl who want hand outs of gold units and such, theres been 20 golds on at one time and all of the bomb, whats the point. just stick with the servers that have served us well.

[zz99]

smikerboyz boosted :)

as for the slayers guild, now you are being ignorant. clansd guilds or whatever are a MAJOR part of MANY online games. SI, the oldest of the FPS clans did not get the idea of a clan from Slayers Guild.

Slayers guild, or noob slayers at the time is what gave seed the idea of making clans, so my point would be not more of having clans, but the fact that they are official, and you get clan chat, and such things.

Also I knew that thesmikerboys boost.

Its ridiculous to argue this point. opinions are like belly buttons, everyones got one.simply state that the fps servers are better. i own a legends gold but stop playing on it when my stat was 772, you know y? because i paid ten dollars for it and all these greys where havin all most the same units for free. i want a challenge if im grey or gold, not having it handed to me. and yes it has been said but the legends server is over crowded with ppl who want hand outs of gold units and such, theres been 20 golds on at one time and all of the bomb, whats the point. just stick with the servers that have served us well.

This is ignorance, pure ignorance. You say to simply say fps is better? This is probably because you only look at the down sides to legends.

[Hellblazer]

Uni, this is the stuborness I was talking of.

And yet AGAIN, I NEVER said Legends is better. It's not the test server, it's seeds server, and the original server.

Haha, stuborn, right... And you're not being stuborn at all. :rolleyes:
Yes, you did say Legends is better because in your first post you made the features on Legends seem glorified.
Yes, now-a-days, it is Seed's little playground server.It may have been the original server, but that means squat because it is what it is now.
Honestly, we don't care to hear you defend it, whether you think it's better than FPS or not. Go back to legends if we annoy you that much.

[the_king]

i look at the up sides: one time payment and such, im not saying its a bad server im just sayin, its like a back alley at night.i prefer fps.

[zz99]

I find both servers have their own ups, and downs, neither server is better than the other, it is just opinionated, because if you go to legends they will say how much better they are than fps.


Quoted from my first post.

Apparently me saying neither server is better than the other to you means i'm saying legends is better. :huh:

[Cuathon]

err, yes we would have clans. and they would be official. not only becuase thats just how things work, but if you look at the old threads, for another reason all together.

[Elentari]

the_king: Technically adam and eve may not have had belly buttons. So, following your logic, two in billions and billions of people may not have opinions.


Basically, this thread is pointless. It's what everyone and their brother has been saying. Legenders will mostly support legends. FPS people will mostly support FPS. There are dumbasses on both sides. There are intelligent people on both sides. It's silly to get mad just because someone negs you or calls you mean names - it's to be expected. Sure, each place has its pros and cons. There will never be a resolution to this whole deal. There will always be controversy.

[zz99]

err, yes we would have clans. and they would be official. not only becuase thats just how things work, but if you look at the old threads, for another reason all together.

Even if we still had clans, we wouldn't have had them so early in TAO history, you have to at least admit to that.

[Cuathon]

not really. maybe a delay of 3 months at most. forum clans were alreqayd up the first or second month though. only ingame that might have been delayed.

[zz99]

not really. maybe a delay of 3 months at most. forum clans were alreqayd up the first or second month though. only ingame that might have been delayed.

Hey, 3 months is enough to change TAO history. :P

[Cuathon]

at most i said. and since we had forum clans anyway,. not a big diff, if anything just make SI a more dominant clan.

[Hellblazer]

Quoted from my first post.

Apparently me saying neither server is better than the other to you means i'm saying legends is better. :huh:

Oh, of course. I understand how one sentence makes up for the rest of that glorified talk about legends. :rolleyes:
Enough.

[zz99]

Oh, of course. I understand how one sentence makes up for the rest of that glorified talk about legends. :rolleyes:
Enough.

You make me laugh.

I was replying to all the noobishness I saw on the previous pages, like the "legends would be nothing without omega", and such things, then I topped it off by saying that I find both to have ups, and downs, and neither is much better, so I don't know where you get me saying legends is better.

[Hellblazer]

Pfft. I can never tell which noob I'm trying to yell at. My apologies, zz99. I somehow thought you were Opix.

[Twelve]

Is this legends though? Why should legends care what FPS has to say if they're so 1337? And why does FPS care what legends have to say if we're also to 1337?

WISDOM.

Just love 'em and play with 'em both like two different kinds of good friends, enjoying their different strengths, weaknesses and attributes. I don't get why people want to prove one is better than the other.

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[uniquinous]

Keep in mind, that defense is in fact not claiming one is better. There are a lot of rumors and false-information being thrown around. I find it's important to set that straight. However, just because someone told you you're wrong about one