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Magician
03-24-2007, 02:56 AM
Punishment is right. I have changed lately - largely for the worse. I have done things I normally would never have done. It's time to get these monkeys off my back and come clean. Amongst the list of wrongs are: betraying my friends here, the clan I lead (led when this is done), bullface lying to everyone and myself. For those on GL, I am Fatality (as most active players were aware), but furthermore, I am Omega-TeamUSA.

This brings up some speculation to myself, as I originally declined an account from Justin. I don't know what persuaded me to change my mind - a different alias within which I could learn how to freestyle competitively perhaps. All I know now is that this decision was a wrong one. Justin - I'm withdrawing from TeamUSA. Oh, and I never did play Justice for the war. Yes, I threw the game. But, I did it because I knew I shouldn't have been fighting in the war in the first place. Thanks to Cliche for wakening me to that point. I betrayed netjak.com, and many friends whose identity within TeamUSA I know, by doing this. I'm sorry. I hope you can forgive me, and in time I can earn the respect I once had.

Again, I owe many thanks to Punishment. He's shown me a light that has long been missing from my game - fun, enjoyment and trying out new things. The two games we had taught me alot and I thoroughly enjoyed them, despite an early exit in the 2nd game. Thanks for the games, and sorry for letting you down on a more personal level.

I am a turtler by trade - I have been since Day 1 - and I've hit high stat-levels just through turtling. It's now time to see where I am based on all aspects of my game. I won't make a promise I can't keep, but I'll try my damnest to play anyone and everyone. I do, however, promise to amend my wrongs, and stay true to myself. If you can't be honest with myself, you're nothing.

Thanks to those who read this. I hope you accept my apology. Good luck, and have fun.

~Mag

meat.eater
03-24-2007, 03:02 AM
If you're asking me, you have nothing to apologise for. It's your game and you have the right to do what you want with it. The only thing you should have done more wisely (and still need to do more wisely) is weigh your interperatation of how you want to play this game against the way others do. Create optimal enjoyment -- for everyone.

You didnt do anything wrong, you just didnt consider your actions consequences in comparison to others, and now you will probably face them.

Cuathon
03-24-2007, 05:44 AM
everyone knew you were omega mag.

you dont have anything to apologize for. lots of good players have secret accounts.

***Duo***
03-24-2007, 05:58 AM
Who is this Justin, and why is he hiring "mercenaries?"


-Duo

steve12
03-24-2007, 06:37 AM
Mag, I'm not really involved with most of yor situations here..

But is does look like you have a lot of class to make a stand about your "wrongs"; they weren't even that bad haha..

Jeffery
03-24-2007, 07:17 AM
Punishment is right. I have changed lately - largely for the worse. I have done things I normally would never have done. It's time to get these monkeys off my back and come clean. Amongst the list of wrongs are: betraying my friends here, the clan I lead (led when this is done), bullface lying to everyone and myself. For those on GL, I am Fatality (as most active players were aware), but furthermore, I am Omega-TeamUSA.

This brings up some speculation to myself, as I originally declined an account from Justin. I don't know what persuaded me to change my mind - a different alias within which I could learn how to freestyle competitively perhaps. All I know now is that this decision was a wrong one. Justin - I'm withdrawing from TeamUSA. Oh, and I never did play Justice for the war. Yes, I threw the game. But, I did it because I knew I shouldn't have been fighting in the war in the first place. Thanks to Cliche for wakening me to that point. I betrayed netjak.com, and many friends whose identity within TeamUSA I know, by doing this. I'm sorry. I hope you can forgive me, and in time I can earn the respect I once had.

Again, I owe many thanks to Punishment. He's shown me a light that has long been missing from my game - fun, enjoyment and trying out new things. The two games we had taught me alot and I thoroughly enjoyed them, despite an early exit in the 2nd game. Thanks for the games, and sorry for letting you down on a more personal level.

I am a turtler by trade - I have been since Day 1 - and I've hit high stat-levels just through turtling. It's now time to see where I am based on all aspects of my game. I won't make a promise I can't keep, but I'll try my damnest to play anyone and everyone. I do, however, promise to amend my wrongs, and stay true to myself. If you can't be honest with myself, you're nothing.

Thanks to those who read this. I hope you accept my apology. Good luck, and have fun.

~Mag
The only thing I see needs an apology for is the lying....
But that's because I have a burning hatred for needless lies.

In the end you can on;y be true to yourself in your actions. You've come to realize that how you went about things is wrong..... So meh, forgive yourself and move on.

Daemon Bloodmaw
03-24-2007, 08:13 AM
Secret accounts are fun Mag, trust me. Without them I would quickly grow bored. As a former turtler though, try out the furgy antirush, it's a nice transition into freestyle :cool:

Magician
03-24-2007, 08:16 AM
Thanks, everyone. Turns out I'm my own worst enemy.

I have been, Daemon. Justice killed me with it. :(

~Mag

Anarchy_United
03-24-2007, 08:19 AM
Oh no!! Now we can no longer be friends magician!! How could you betray me so

elimination
03-24-2007, 08:59 AM
Punishment is right. I have changed lately - largely for the worse. I have done things I normally would never have done. It's time to get these monkeys off my back and come clean. Amongst the list of wrongs are: betraying my friends here, the clan I lead (led when this is done), bullface lying to everyone and myself. For those on GL, I am Fatality (as most active players were aware), but furthermore, I am Omega-TeamUSA.

~Mag
Does this mean you have to resign from your leadership of nj on GL?:(
I don't want you to......:(
But, atleast you told the truth instead of kept lying, lying is bad...

Deepsea
03-24-2007, 09:04 AM
Magician, you are not an ass towards my eyes. I'll always accept your apology...Everyone makes a mistake.

DuBious
03-24-2007, 09:15 AM
I won't belittle your conscience. I know the feeling of getting something off your chest. I also know that you felt there was an incongruency with your true self and how you were presenting yourself here. That can cause some real angst. However, to those of us here, realize that what we see is a victimless "crime". You're still Mag, you're still a great player, and you're still fun to have around.


Now that you've said something: Enjoy TAO, no matter which account you're on. So you enjoy working on your strats without affecting your stats, and while having a measure of anonymity. It's not so bad. As a TAO celebrity I'd even call it understandable. I don't think NJ will crucify you. At least, I won't. :)

And what's this furgon anti-rush I hear of? Mag, I'll want to play against that form. Sounds like we both have some work to do.

Rico Suave
03-24-2007, 09:19 AM
Mag I love you! You are the man.

Unforgottner
03-24-2007, 11:11 AM
</3.

_Darkness_
03-24-2007, 11:21 AM
Now you have to admit to boosting! Hahaha, just kidding. I do not see anything really wrong besides the fact that it is lying, but it still was not that bad.

Justice
03-24-2007, 12:19 PM
I.Love.Magician. 'nuff said.

Anarchy_United
03-24-2007, 12:58 PM
I.Love.Magician. 'nuff said.

Me to! and hopefully now he will become a full-time freestyler!!

dirka dirka
03-24-2007, 01:29 PM
I am a turtler by trade - I have been since Day 1 - and I've hit high stat-levels just through turtling.
Good.

It's now time to see where I am based on all aspects of my game.
NOO!! Turtle!!

Tugnus
03-24-2007, 02:14 PM
Im still slightly confused on what mag did wrong?

mantis33
03-24-2007, 02:28 PM
Mag, everyone loves you. You have nothing to apologize for.

Im still slightly confused on what mag did wrong?

He had other accounts in other clans, which he thought was wrong being a NJ leader.

Worker
03-24-2007, 08:13 PM
Its funny how status can forgive any wrong.

DuBious
03-24-2007, 09:35 PM
Its funny how status can forgive any wrong.


Perhaps you'd care to explain yourself? You're making it sound like "we" (those in this thread) are guilty of duplicity.

I've just returned from a long hiatus away from TAO, Worker. I have no idea who you are. In fact, my only glimpse of you is this cryptic, quasi-negative comment. Yet, were it you in this place saying the same thing as Magi, I would have given you the same response.

_Darkness_
03-24-2007, 09:55 PM
Oh yeah, well I think you are a nub.

phoenixofflames
03-24-2007, 10:08 PM
maggy you lied to me :(

Worker
03-24-2007, 11:23 PM
Mag, everyone loves you. You have nothing to apologize for.

He had other accounts in other clans, which he thought was wrong being a NJ leader.And so would every other netjak member since isn't and has never been allowed. Netjak would have to be informed of all of this to have an opinion, and who would object here after all the positive support hes getting.


Perhaps you'd care to explain yourself? You're making it sound like "we" (those in this thread) are guilty of duplicity.

I've just returned from a long hiatus away from TAO, Worker. I have no idea who you are. In fact, my only glimpse of you is this cryptic, quasi-negative comment. Yet, were it you in this place saying the same thing as Magi, I would have given you the same response.When you analyze something for a deeper meaning that isn't there, its easy to make it a "cryptic, quasi-negative comment" .

Secondly, if I had intended to 'call out' those in this thread id of done so, as that would of satisfied my attention whore ambitions for at least a couple days.
:rolleyes:


Lying is a violation of trust. Once trust is broken things can never be the same. A wise TAO community member once told me that what anyone admits to doing wrong is not the concern, its what they don't admit too.

Which leads to ....

Guilty by association.

|AFO|
03-25-2007, 01:41 AM
Pst...Worker...I don't see how that leads to gulty by association. >.<

Mag how could you do such a thing! Lie to me!? =( I really don't know what went down, but since you've always been a cool dude to me I'll forgive you. Now don't do it again! Or else!

BaxVarlet
03-25-2007, 01:57 AM
Only thing you need to apologize for is listening to Puni!

Oh, and was I the first you told that you were Fatality? Because that would make me feel special.

Maverik07
03-25-2007, 02:01 AM
naw, im pretty sure he told Liz first, because thats how he got into the Pretty Princesses

Punishment
03-25-2007, 02:08 AM
Only thing you need to apologize for is listening to Puni!

Oh, and was I the first you told that you were Fatality? Because that would make me feel special.

Why? Don't forget, Bax, I am right 94.7 % of the time. Those are pretty good odds.

Magician, this thread wasn't really needed. Everybody already knew you threw your game with Justice, but I supposed admitting it is nice. Good luck attempting to learn to free... Though, I don't see why secondary accounts are needed for it. You often say that stats don't matter, but if they truly didn't matter to you, you would attempt to LEARN free on Magician. It's strange, and I'm probably not the only one, but I play better on my primary account than random secondaries where I am unknown.

No need to make things more dramatic than they already are. There is enough drama without threads like these.

:confused:

Zander
03-25-2007, 04:33 AM
i'm just glad you didn't say "writing"

Cuathon
03-25-2007, 06:25 AM
i play the same on any account. but i usually have better luck for some reason on secondaries.

DuBious
03-25-2007, 07:04 AM
And so would every other netjak member since isn't and has never been allowed. Netjak would have to be informed of all of this to have an opinion, and who would object here after all the positive support hes getting.


When you analyze something for a deeper meaning that isn't there, its easy to make it a "cryptic, quasi-negative comment" .

Secondly, if I had intended to 'call out' those in this thread id of done so, as that would of satisfied my attention whore ambitions for at least a couple days.
:rolleyes:


Lying is a violation of trust. Once trust is broken things can never be the same. A wise TAO community member once told me that what anyone admits to doing wrong is not the concern, its what they don't admit too.

Which leads to ....

Guilty by association.

Thanks for a good laugh Worker. Guilty by association? No, nonono. :P And that would directly contradict the first part of your post that there is "no deeper meaning". Victimless crime. For the record: I'm a Netjakker.

Geeky_Bastard
03-25-2007, 07:05 AM
We're going to let Crater handle your punishment ;)

Jonspen
03-25-2007, 07:14 AM
Punishment made me realise I'm a douche to everyone around me aswell.

Here here, to a wonderful day of redemption!

Cuathon
03-25-2007, 07:21 AM
pun told me i was sexy!!!! w00t!
j/k

powza
03-25-2007, 07:38 AM
Stress less Maggy. You are a great guy and top player.

Many people have secret accounts. I have too many greys to even remember.

I also have a secret gold that no-one knows about too. Dont tell anyone, but I am actually The Grey

mantis33
03-25-2007, 07:57 AM
Only thing you need to apologize for is listening to Puni!

Oh, and was I the first you told that you were Fatality? Because that would make me feel special.

I was one of the first few! Me, you, Fire, and maybe CHILL if I remember correctly.

Anyway, I don't know why Worker's so upset, but if you do get expelled from NJ or something (definately won't happen), you know who to call. ;)

GHOST BUSTERS! *theme song*

Zander
03-25-2007, 08:07 AM
I was one of the first few! Me, you, Fire, and maybe CHILL if I remember correctly.

Anyway, I don't know why Worker's so upset, but if you do get expelled from NJ or something (definately won't happen), you know who to call. ;)

GHOST BUSTERS! *theme song*

i knew 'fore fire.

Thargor
03-25-2007, 08:16 AM
:( mag....


I forgive you.

Worker
03-25-2007, 09:01 AM
Thanks for a good laugh Worker. Guilty by association? No, nonono. :P And that would directly contradict the first part of your post that there is "no deeper meaning". Victimless crime. For the record: I'm a Netjakker.


The guilty by association was thrown in to tickle your "wtf" bone.



Anyway, I don't know why Worker's so upset, but if you do get expelled from NJ or something (definately won't happen), you know who to call. ;)

GHOST BUSTERS! *theme song*I'm not upset, Magician and I had talked yesterday for a good bit about this, and the state of netjak in general long before I ever decided to post in this thread.


My point was, in general, people taking lying to lightly, be it tao, or any other aspect of life. Yet he was man enough to admit it, so he has some big ballz.

Lord Sesshomaru
03-25-2007, 09:06 AM
Many of us are guilty of using secret accounts in the past. Myself included. No need for apologies there. But if it means anything i still love ya mag

DuBious
03-25-2007, 05:36 PM
The guilty by association was thrown in to tickle your "wtf" bone.

Hahaha! Well it did it's job perfectly. You got me.


I'm not upset, Magician and I had talked yesterday for a good bit about this, and the state of netjak in general long before I ever decided to post in this thread.


My point was, in general, people taking lying to lightly, be it tao, or any other aspect of life. Yet he was man enough to admit it, so he has some big ballz.

State of Netjak hmm? /muses


Aye, I was about to make a post to mantis stating that I didn't think you were angry, so much as philosophical. I just figured I'd take the bait.:rolleyes:


As for your last point, you are quite right, on all points. Although I wouldn't know enough to speculate on the measurements of Magi's nether regions.

Back to the state of Netjak. I would muse that any statement there could be made for TAO in general.

Coffin Fedder
03-25-2007, 05:59 PM
Wow, now I don't have to stab you. Nah man, that took a lot to probably do. I've been reading threw the forums and noticed a lot of people had changed. At least one of them came out clean.

Abyssion
03-25-2007, 06:01 PM
At least you told me you were Fatality after I found out! About the Omega thing though you lied to me over and over about. Buts its ok Mag..I forgive ya. =D Free me on GL sometime n00b!@

~SlayeR~
03-25-2007, 06:12 PM
So you saying you're going to play everyone.. Does that mean you'll be freestyling me? :-P

Cliche
03-25-2007, 06:14 PM
<3 Magician.

;)

pils
03-25-2007, 06:49 PM
*hugs*
Its no big deal buddy... really. I think teamusa can forgive you for the whole justice thing, in the war. Don't worry about it.
As for NJ... maybe you can get leadership back someday.

We all know your responsible enough, everyone makes mistakes.

NOW to get to business, Free game?
=P

Hoolwath
03-26-2007, 09:49 AM
I seriously do not know what you are talking about.

But I forgive you.

:cool:

uniquinous
03-26-2007, 11:22 AM
The only thing you need to appologize for is accepting a teamUSA account in the first place :p

now all I need to do is get you kicked out of NJ so you can come to my clan.. ...

|AFO|
03-26-2007, 08:10 PM
The only thing you need to appologize for is accepting a teamUSA account in the first place :p

now all I need to do is get you kicked out of NJ so you can come to my clan.. ...

It was you all along wasn't it!? I'm on to you! =P

Your secret plan will fail I tell you! Nothing gets past me!

uniquinous
03-26-2007, 08:12 PM
yeah, he's officially in the pwntar clan. surrender or all shall be perished!

KickAssPlaya
03-26-2007, 08:31 PM
yeah, he's officially in the pwntar clan. surrender or all shall be perished!

I'll join if you can help me get rid of a clan.. :p

And Mag, you're still a noob. I forgive you. :rolleyes:
everyone already hit the target.. :\
~KAP

sayter
03-26-2007, 09:51 PM
I never did understand this secret account/multi account nonsense. Im sick and tired of folks I know having 14 screennames I need to remember in order to even TALK to them half the time.

I am, and always will be, sayter. Period. No fancy nonsense, none of that crap. Why? Because its the damn internet. Anonymity is already assured. Why do I need 3 user names to log in on? Who cares if you grey jump, refuse fights, or otherwise do things others might not like. You pay to play. Its' none of their damn concern. As long as you dont actively act a fool, ruin others fun or "Cheat" in whatever limited ways you can in this game...who cares?

I respect the players I speak of, but fail to see ANY logic in multiple accounts that people try to keep their ID "secret" on. No one cares. If someone asks, don't play coy. If they say to UBERNERD, who is actually MonkeyMan, who is actually Equitas, who is actually uniquinous, etc "who are you", i expect them to say "its uni" and not "you know who it is". Obviously they don't, or they would not have asked.

It's not funny. It's not clever. It's not even cool. Now, if its hiding your ID because you are ashamed to pay TWICE or more for TAO a month, then I can TOTALLY understand :)

That said, we WUV YOU MAGGY!!!!!!

CRX687
03-26-2007, 10:00 PM
Thanks, everyone. Turns out I'm my own worst enemy.

I have been, Daemon. Justice killed me with it. :(

~Mag

Yeah seriously... I thought we had a gentlemen's agreement.

Thanks for ruining it, JERKFACE! :p

teamusa
03-30-2007, 06:54 PM
The only thing I see needs an apology for is the lying....
But that's because I have a burning hatred for needless lies.

In the end you can on;y be true to yourself in your actions. You've come to realize that how you went about things is wrong..... So meh, forgive yourself and move on.

Ditto.

teamusa
03-30-2007, 06:56 PM
The only thing you need to appologize for is accepting a teamUSA account in the first place :p

now all I need to do is get you kicked out of NJ so you can come to my clan.. ...

Christ almighty, who opened the monkey cage?
Back, back, get back inside or no more bananas for you!!

WaCk-HeAd
03-31-2007, 05:15 AM
You're a strange 33 year old.

-Dape-
03-31-2007, 05:21 AM
You're a strange 33 year old.

:rofl:

Lonely Tylenol
03-31-2007, 05:36 AM
I have a confession, guys.

I am actually...

Senile Felines.

Yes, that account is me.

I know it was really confusing to you guys, as to why I had a purple name, but no "Lonely Tylenol" moderator account. It was confusing to me at first as well, but long story short, "Senile Felines" is me.

For the last fourteen months I have been kicking cyberers and ne'er-do-wells under the guise of an apathetic, no-good slacker, but I cannot hide these lies, or my shame, anymore.

I am so, so sorry for deceiving you all.

~SF

~SlayeR~
03-31-2007, 06:07 AM
You whore! You are soo lame for not telling me. :mad:

Smiley_Girl
03-31-2007, 07:17 AM
Hi Mag! :bye: Long time no see. Looks likes you have been Mr. Meany Pants! :p Hope everything works out for you and you get back on track.