So what this i hear about new mods?

[endless]

Time to start an uproar. :P

As word has it, tao in in search for some new mods. Im not sure quite on the details. But if you notice, meat (http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/member.php?u=5451) has been promoted to a mod position..

So that leads to the question.. who's next? Leave your opinions here on what you think.

[dirka dirka]

Better yet, will any current mods loose their positions? I could name a few that should.

[endless]

So can i, but should we hire more..? In my mind a bunch of new mods would be a step back rather than a step forward...

[dirka dirka]

Depends on the mods. We definitely need a higher mod presence. There are bad mods though, as has been demonstrated and is currently.

[endless]

You're telling me you can name some people that would fit the position? I know i can't. ( yourself dosn't count )

But you're right thought, there are a few who haven't lived up to their duty's.. or just don't do them anymore. ( OR NEVER DID THEM * COUGHPLUSCOUGH * )

[Kyir]

You're telling me you can name some people that would fit the position?

Sup.

[endless]

Sup.

PHAHAHHAH AH AH AAHA HKFASHDAKJFROFLCOPTER!11!!1

No no.. seriously..

[Ächilles]

We do not need more mods.

[Chaos 4.0]

All the mods seem cool to me. Some of them aren't active, but that's only because they have ceartain events going on in life and won't be able to play TAO much. Hatch for example. And LT was innactive for a while, but he came back, and he's been doing great with getting on and stuff. So yeah. I disagree.

[endless]

Sorry if i sound insensitive but i dont give a crap whats going on in their lives..

They are promoted to do a job.. if they cant do it.. then someone should REPLACE them that can do the job.

[dirka dirka]

Meet is perfect!!

Shroomy could be a forum mod too.

Believe it or not, Buster would make a good mod. He just has to learn to control his noobery and emotions.

[Chaos 4.0]

Sorry if i sound insensitive but i dont give a crap whats going on in their lives..

They are promoted to do a job.. if they cant do it.. then someone should REPLACE them that can do the job.



Believe what you want.

[mantis33]

Hmm, I didn't even know that meat still played.

Man Tits for mod! :p

[dirka dirka]

Believe what you want.

If you aren't willing to back your opinions then don't state them.

[endless]

Shroomy is just a nice girl, i know for a fact she wouldn't accept if asked to become a forum mod.

Buster is QUITE noobly.. :P

And i agree, meat does fit the job description well. I just wish i saw more of him on army. :'(

[Chaos 4.0]

I say Shamus.

[endless]

Hmm, I didn't even know that meat still played.

Man Tits for mod! :p

I vote Shamus.
This isn't a voting thread.. because we all know that TAO dosn't give a CRAP what you think.

[dirka dirka]

Shroomy is just a nice girl, i know for a fact she wouldn't accept if asked to become a forum mod.

Buster is QUITE noobly.. :P

And i agree, meat does fit the job description well. I just wish i saw more of him on army. :'(

Shroomy would be a good forum mod just as she does as an in game mod. She just needs more time. Buster is very noobly, but that has only little to do with his ability.

[Chaos 4.0]

This isn't a voting thread.. because we all know that TAO dosn't give a CRAP what you think.

I edited.

[dirka dirka]

I edited.

Why are you saying Shamus? Are you just sitting there in a room repeating Shamus to yourself? Creep.

[endless]

mmmmmmmm... shamus....

Wait.. what were we talking about?

[Matt 34.5]

Uniq, Liz, and meat are the mods I see on most activly and do their jobs well, but that could just be because I rarely leave army and they just happen to be the most active there...

And I was thinking the otherday, why weren't the newer mods made forum mods as well? Maybe their not 'needed' but there is alot of spam that gets through, and it would help to have them around, or at least a few of them around as forum mods. I tend to see alot of purple, and very little blue.

[dirka dirka]

Not to mention, Uniq would make a good forum mod, as long as he doesn't go and edit my posts to say weird sexual things.

[Oisin]

I lawled, not going to lie.

My opinion has already been stated on this thread. <3

[Shamus]

I say Shamus.I'm flattered, really. I don't know how good of a forum mod I could be. I am active.

[endless]

I'm flattered, really. I don't know how good of a forum mod I could be. I am active.

We all know hes just trying to get into your pants...

And Matt, i agree with you, i have no idea why we have tow groups of mods.. it makes no sence. I was talking about the same thing with xer.

[speaker4thedead]

The mods we have doesnt do there jobs (There are a few exseptions like uniq, meat, shroomy) the rest dont deserve to be mod.

[Shamus]

We all know hes just trying to get into your pants...Psh, he doesn't have to try. I'll let anyone in my pants. :wub:

[AlabamaBoy]

o.0 Anyone, *imagines you letting Drew Carry in*

[Shamus]

Indeed, anyone.

[Anarchy_United]

AU for modly!!

[endless]

You're disqualified! But thanks for playing!

[mantis33]

What's with everyone mentioning meat? Am I playing the same game you are? I havn't seen him in ages.

Liz and uniq are great mods, but we need to have some active mods with testosterone. ;)

[AlabamaBoy]

:wub: meat has been in rev doing the turtle tournament.

[mantis33]

Alright, well that makes sense. I havn't played on Rev for a while.

[steve12]

Hm... to be honest I don't think many of the forum mods are doing their jobs. I mean, the in-game mods are basically doing what they are supposed to be doing, patrolling these forums. I see the in-game mods on in the servers once in a while, too, but not enough at all. I think we need to replace the forum mods and add a few in-game mods, maybe replace 1 or 2.

And, endless is right. Noone cares about a mod's life situations. They are given a job, and are supposed to do it! I mean, before they gained modship they were active as hell, and now they leave. That is why they shouldn't be mods, they need to do their job, or not be given the privilege to do it. End of story.

[AlabamaBoy]

Stop being invisable. It is driving me ka-raze-ee.

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

I say Shamus.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

:P

And, endless is right. Noone cares about a mod's life situations. They are given a job, and are supposed to do it! I mean, before they gained modship they were active as hell, and now they leave. That is why they shouldn't be mods, they need to do their job, or not be given the privilege to do it. End of story.

Since when did you bcome such an ass?

[Apocalypse0375]

I think the people with no lives that just sit on TAO all day should be a mod...DIRKA FOR MOD!!! :p

[endless]

Since when did you bcome such an ass?


Its a valid point though. I mean yes, if one of the mods was injured in one way or another i would understand something along those lines. But all we are told is that they're " busy " with things in their lives. I don't care about it honestly. And they shouldn't either.. if they're not here then their powers should be removed.

It would prevent from power trips like the recent one we just had...

[Blexican]

Well I hope w/e new mods will be happy with their positions. congrats meat, I know you deserve it. =)

Dirka being nice, Hes like Dr.Cox on Scrubs hes only nice very little of the time, but you want his respect :confused: [/not sucking up]


If there is one thing I learned about people becoming mods, they never ask, they are givin the position because they are mostly mature when they have to be and are good leader. And there usually popular :confused:

[_Darkness_]

I think the mods we have currently are doing a pretty good job. Getting new ones, as long as picked very carefully I do not think could do much harm though.

[endless]

I think the mods we have currently are doing a pretty good job. Getting new ones, as long as picked very carefully I do not think could do much harm though.

You think plusminus is a good mod?

:O

Yes, go check i didn't just make that name up..

[AlabamaBoy]

plusminus is excellent, just in a special invisable mode that doesnt show forum activity.

[meat.eater]

Stop starting rumors. If/when we decide to hire anyone new, the community will be the first to know. We're not out to be secretive.

[Blexican]

why should an ingame mod post on the forums, he could just read pms and the forum, and be modding in game.

[AlabamaBoy]

Congrats on your promotion.

[endless]

Stop starting rumors. If/when we decide to hire anyone new, the community will be the first to know. We're not out to be secretive.
Its not a rumor discussion if you we're to bother to read more than the topic title.

Its more of an discussion of whether or not the decisions being made are right or not.

[steve12]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

:P



Since when did you bcome such an ass?

What's wrong with you, I'm just stating the truth. If you don't want mods around here, fine, but I for one would like this game to have some sort of organization to run it. And they aren't very active. So what I am asking is why are they the ones patrolling this joint?

If you think I am "such an ass" for stating the mere truth, I won't be stating the truth anymore. I just hope you are happy accepting people saying things that really don't matter. It's the internet, can't I just say what I have to say? I don't feel like adding in little phrases to make it look all jolly.

[Blexican]

If I had to choose a mod hypatheticlly I would have no idea who to choose really. I personally think it would take alot of time to pick someone.

[endless]

What's wrong with you, I'm just stating the truth. If you don't want mods around here, fine, but I for one would like this game to have some sort of organization to run it. And they aren't very active. So what I am asking is why are they the ones patrolling this joint?

If you think I am "such an ass" for stating the mere truth, I won't be stating the truth anymore. I just hope you are happy accepting people saying things that really don't matter. It's the internet, can't I just say what I have to say? I don't feel like adding in little phrases to make it look all jolly.

Ahmen Brother....

[mantis33]

Stop starting rumors. If/when we decide to hire anyone new, the community will be the first to know. We're not out to be secretive.

Says the super-secret-newly aquired forum modship position-guy!

HOW CAN WE TRUST YOU!?!?!? :p

[Blexican]

I think everyone has a IWANNABEAMOD stage havent we? (random)

[AlabamaBoy]

How can we trust you, invisable man?

meat has never been the type screw around, if he says something it is most likely the case.

[endless]

Says the super-secret-newly aquired forum modship position-guy!

HOW CAN WE TRUST YOU!?!?!? :p

Ditto, were was the community on this decision on this!

Not saying we have to promote/demote every single decision made. But other than my thread wheres the announcement? Congrads again by the way.

Im sorry but I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION

And im tired of just sitting here. I want some changes made!

[ducky doodoo]

ok im in the lobby all kool and stuff and i was suddenly banned! i dont know why! all i did was check my set play a game and go to floor 1.5 and i was banned i thonk the mod that did this should give me a free gold account for doing such a thing i cant get on any more come on unban me i have been so good to this this game and this is the thanks i get? this is bad because i was just beeing kool in the lobby and i was banned for no reasone what is wrong do the mods not like me any more lpleaze unban me ive been so good i want to be able to play again cause this is a fun game and i want to play and it wont even let me make a new name and i think a mod haxz0rd me so i cant make a new name and there is somthing wrong with that because mods are suppost to be good and they haxz0rd me i think the mod that did this should be banned and they pay for me to have a gold account for ever because it is not right for a mod to do dis cause im so kool and i dont think i deserve this cause its just not right for a mod a respected member almost as much as me to haxz0rd me yea.

that brings me to my second point i think i should be a mod because ive been very good and i would be like the mod that banned me for no reason because that mod is n00b if they banned me and then they haxz0rd me so that is why i think i shoukd be mod because i think that would be very kool if i were mod even if it were just for a day i think i woulod be good because i would stop all evil that comes to the forums and to the game i would make sure that all cybers have there own server and that would be kool because then they wouldnt haqve to be all n00b and annoying and all that stuff we could call the new sever jijibous wich is a greek word i made up for the term CYBERS i think i should be mod because i would be very kool and i would ban and then haxz0r people just because they were beeing sall kool and stuff like that one n00b mod so that why7 i think i should be mod thank you and i hope you consider it cause i would be very good because i wouldnt ban people for stupid reasons thank you and i hope you consider that new server thank you for reading all this it means alot to me and i hope we ban that mod.

I agree with what some peopel are saying, some mods like the one who banned me just arena doin there jobz0rz. thats why uniquenub should be banned.

[endless]

Congrads ducky, you win the idiot of the year award...

[WaCk-HeAd]

When does a discussion about needing a new mod start when we just got a new one and not before?

We don't need any more moderators. Meat was a great addition and we're fine right now.

The idiots who are claiming they don't care about the personal situation of a moderator should pretty much just keep quiet.

It's one thing to question moderators, it's another to be flat out insulting to people giving up their free time to make it more fun for you to be here.

[meat.eater]

Using floor 1.5 is considered a glitch and therefore hacking the system. The system itself banned you. I believe it deleted you as well, but I will check on that.

[AlabamaBoy]

Congrads ducky, you win the idiot of the year award...

Use complete sentences.

Congrads ducky, you win the idiot of the year award again.

[steve12]

ok im in the lobby all kool and stuff and i was suddenly banned! i dont know why! all i did was check my set play a game and go to floor 1.5 and i was banned i thonk the mod that did this should give me a free gold account for doing such a thing i cant get on any more come on unban me i have been so good to this this game and this is the thanks i get? this is bad because i was just beeing kool in the lobby and i was banned for no reasone what is wrong do the mods not like me any more lpleaze unban me ive been so good i want to be able to play again cause this is a fun game and i want to play and it wont even let me make a new name and i think a mod haxz0rd me so i cant make a new name and there is somthing wrong with that because mods are suppost to be good and they haxz0rd me i think the mod that did this should be banned and they pay for me to have a gold account for ever because it is not right for a mod to do dis cause im so kool and i dont think i deserve this cause its just not right for a mod a respected member almost as much as me to haxz0rd me yea.

that brings me to my second point i think i should be a mod because ive been very good and i would be like the mod that banned me for no reason because that mod is n00b if they banned me and then they haxz0rd me so that is why i think i shoukd be mod because i think that would be very kool if i were mod even if it were just for a day i think i woulod be good because i would stop all evil that comes to the forums and to the game i would make sure that all cybers have there own server and that would be kool because then they wouldnt haqve to be all n00b and annoying and all that stuff we could call the new sever jijibous wich is a greek word i made up for the term CYBERS i think i should be mod because i would be very kool and i would ban and then haxz0r people just because they were beeing sall kool and stuff like that one n00b mod so that why7 i think i should be mod thank you and i hope you consider it cause i would be very good because i wouldnt ban people for stupid reasons thank you and i hope you consider that new server thank you for reading all this it means alot to me and i hope we ban that mod.

I agree with what some peopel are saying, some mods like the one who banned me just arena doin there jobz0rz. thats why uniquenub should be banned.

Noone has told you this yet..but.... you are a retard. There! I said it!
I know it is hard to accept, man, just b coo abut it dawg.

Dat OK in yo' crib?

[endless]

The idiots who are claiming they don't care about the personal situation of a moderator should pretty much just keep quiet.

It's one thing to question moderators, it's another to be flat out insulting to people giving up their free time to make it more fun for you to be here.

Again.. are you saying that plus is doing his job.. how about TB? Its obvious they've grown away from the game, and yet still have the power to come back and make decisions based on anything.

Im sorry but i will not just sit here and allow something like TB's power trip happen with no action.

All i'm asking is a sign on once a month? Is that outrageous? Yet both fail horribly. Many times over...

[ducky doodoo]

no it no coo dawg.

:o how long has meaty ben a super mod?

[AlabamaBoy]

The system will right itself, it seems to be functioning quite well actualy.

If ducky is here in three weeks I may have to retract that statement.

[steve12]

When does a discussion about needing a new mod start when we just got a new one and not before?

We don't need any more moderators. Meat was a great addition and we're fine right now.

The idiots who are claiming they don't care about the personal situation of a moderator should pretty much just keep quiet.

It's one thing to question moderators, it's another to be flat out insulting to people giving up their free time to make it more fun for you to be here.


Actually Wack, I'm puuurrrty sure that their JOB AS MODERATORS is to make is funner for us to be here by governing the forums and/or servers.

[Angelic-Hotfox]

The current mods. along with the other people in leadership (serigy, redbones) should choose several candidates which are active and responsible enough to hold a moderator position. Then post a poll and allow the TAO community to vote for who they believe is the best choice. The only flaw to this would be people like Hulky or Kreator would vote many times for one person on different accounts, but even then I don't think one person could significantly impact the voting outcome.

But having another forum moderator such as meat is a good thing I believe. I agree with the people who say that the current forum mods. are not active enough. Having a few more moderators would be good as long as they're active and up to the task of keeping the forums in shape.

However, having too many moderators is another bad thing. So if we added lets say 4 new moderators, I would say two of the least active would need to be demoted. Why? Too many people in a position with power would mean the power of each individual moderator would decrease and more arguments and disputes will break out when dealing with certain issues. Im not saying having different opinions is bad though. I just think having a limited number of mods is better than having like a slow increase in people with moderator positions. Because what if in the next 4 years we gradually continue promoting people, and by 2011 we have say 10 forum moderators. It would make the moderator position useless because everyone would be a mod and eventually everyone will have the same power, and all those who aren't mods. will feel left out/upset.

Oh well, thats just my opinion. Congratz to meat though.

[mantis33]

Using floor 1.5 is considered a glitch and therefore hacking the system. The system itself banned you. I believe it deleted you as well, but I will check on that.

I can't believe you actually took what he said seriously. I suggest an IP check. He's not just some random nub, he's trying to be funny. Key word "trying".

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

What's wrong with you, I'm just stating the truth. If you don't want mods around here, fine, but I for one would like this game to have some sort of organization to run it. And they aren't very active. So what I am asking is why are they the ones patrolling this joint?

If you think I am "such an ass" for stating the mere truth, I won't be stating the truth anymore. I just hope you are happy accepting people saying things that really don't matter. It's the internet, can't I just say what I have to say? I don't feel like adding in little phrases to make it look all jolly.

You were stating your opinion, not fact.

And mods should have lives. Your stance was taht they should be on everyday or be removed. That's dumb. THEY HAVE LIVES. If it's a situation like pusminus then sure, remove him. But if they don't make it on for a week because on like some people on this forum they have a life, it shouldn't even be brought up.

With that, once again, I proceed to call you some variation on an expletive: asshat. :)
Actually Wack, I'm puuurrrty sure that their JOB AS MODERATORS is to make is funner for us to be here by governing the forums and/or servers.

First, it's not a job. They do not get paid.
Second, let's say someone is cybering. How does that affect you? It doesn't. If there were no cyberers and spammers would you really have more fun? Au contraire, I'd have less.

If a cyberer is kickd, fine. I'm all for it. But if they say "hot gurls flr 9", a hot girl goes to floor 9 and they get lucky, how does that affect you? Are you really having less fun?

[AlabamaBoy]

As the current in-game and forum mods slowly drift away from TAO the concept of promoting those other people wouldnt be that much of a stretch considering the chance of the other people logging in is so minimal.

[steve12]

You were stating your opinion, not fact.

And mods should have lives. Your stance was taht they should be on everyday or be removed. That's dumb. THEY HAVE LIVES. If it's a situation like pusminus then sure, remove him. But if they don't make it on for a week because on like some people on this forum they have a life, it shouldn't even be brought up.

With that, once again, I proceed to call you some variation on an expletive: asshat. :)


First, it's not a job. They do not get paid.
Second, let's say someone is cybering. How does that affect you? It doesn't. If there were no cyberers and spammers would you really have more fun? Au contraire, I'd have less.

If a cyberer is kickd, fine. I'm all for it. But if they say "hot gurls flr 9", a hot girl goes to floor 9 and they get lucky, how does that affect you? Are you really having less fun?

I never said every day, did I? MOST of them, as endless said, don't even show once in a month. It is still their duty, or they should step down.
If it's their responsibility then...... forget it. You are to thick-headed to understand, you know it, and you will keep saying nonsense.

DD for mod so he will never come back again! <---Does this ring a bell about any other mods? Does it?

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

I never said every day, did I? MOST of them, as endless said, don't even show once in a month. It is still their duty, or they should step down.
If it's their responsibility then...... forget it. You are to thick-headed to understand, you know it, and you will keep saying nonsense.

DD for mod so he will never come back again! <---Does this ring a bell about any other mods? Does it?

Personal attacks ftw!

You just repeated what you said with a few "DD sucks"-esc-comments.

Adress my points and we can continue this.

[Angelic-Hotfox]

Are there any guidelines/requirements posted here on the forums which explain moderator duties and how you become a moderator? If not, I think we need basic rules, like "Moderator must be active and post at least once every two weeks, otherwise you will be automatically demoted" Or something along those lines.

[Shaddix]

Boy Doctor Device, you seems rather aggressive today

[steve12]

Don't change the subject. Make sense! This is the online world. This is an online site. What is the purpose of Moderators again? I'm not saying to be on all the time. They OBVIOUSLY aren't on enough. Period. I'm done arguing with you. You will never give up, and neither will I, because I have a point you can not beat down with your crummy sarcasm.

[Merdoc.]

We don't need new mods. meat.eater should do the job well. Congrats meat.

[Angelic-Hotfox]

Don't change the subject. Make sense! This is the online world. This is an online site. What is the purpose of Moderators again? I'm not saying to be on all the time. They OBVIOUSLY aren't on enough. Period. I'm done arguing with you. You will never give up, and neither will I, because I have a point you can not beat down with your crummy sarcasm.

so shouldnt we take out the ones that arent on enough and replace them with ones which are? Isn't that steve's point? So why wouldn't that make sense? Its like getting an oil change for your car. Once the old oil has been used enough and worn out, you should replace it with new Mobil 1 oil to increase performance...isn't that the same case with forums?

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

Boy Doctor Device, you seems rather aggressive today

WHERE? I JUST DONT SEE IT! I AM NOT AGRESSIVE!

GOD, YOU'RE AN ASS!

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

so shouldnt we take out the ones that arent on enough and replace them with ones which are? Isn't that steve's point? So why wouldn't that make sense?

He doesn't want moderators to have lives.

Noone cares about moderators lives.

[endless]

WHERE? I JUST DONT SEE IT! I AM NOT AGRESSIVE!

GOD, YOU'RE AN ASS!

All of your comments have be over exadurations of other members posts.. if you want to argue about valid points then come up some of your own.

[Angelic-Hotfox]

He doesn't want moderators to have lives.



...oh....ok well that doesn't quite make sense then

[_Thunder_]

Congrats on Meat none others are needed at this time.

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

All of your comments have be over exadurations of other members posts.. if you want to argue about valid points then come up some of your own.

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1134201&postcount=68

Valid points.

If you'd like to adress those I'd be more than happy to continue the argument. steve "adressed" them by repeating what he had already said and throwing in more personal attacks.

I think mods should have lives, and shouldn't be removed if they do.

[Shiznit]

Dirka Should Be A Mod. :)

I think he has all the qualities needed.

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

Ah, yes. Congratulations meat. :grin:

[endless]

He doesn't want moderators to have lives.



Again with the total exadurations of what people were saying. Its ridiculous. No one said not for the mods to have lives.. we're saying that they should spend SOME time on the tasks given to them. You want to argue like a little kid, thats fine. But don't accuse others of being lower than you.


I think mods should have lives, and shouldn't be removed if they do.
Yes, but theres that a line between a life, and just plain neglect.

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

Again with the total exadurations of what people were saying. Its ridiculous. No one said not for the mods to have lives.. we're saying that they should spend SOME time on the tasks given to them. You want to argue like a little kid, thats fine. But don't accuse others of being lower than you.

And, endless is right. Noone cares about a mod's life situations. They are given a job, and are supposed to do it! I mean, before they gained modship they were active as hell, and now they leave. That is why they shouldn't be mods, they need to do their job, or not be given the privilege to do it. End of story.

What am I exaggerating?

"No one cares about mod's life sitations. They are given a job, and are supposed to do it!"

Seriously. That's a ridiculous statement.

[meat.eater]

exaggerations*

that was bugging me

[_Thunder_]

Dirka Should Be A Mod. :)

I think he has all the qualities needed.

Ahahahaha:laugh:

Nice one.

[Angelic-Hotfox]

I have another issue I want to bring up about moderators. I feel that if a moderator knows he/she will no longer be as active or involved with the forums and TAO, that he/she is responsible for making a decision and decide whether to resign or not, and message admin. That way, TAO leaders will know that this certain person can no longer keep up with moderating duties and can find a suitable replacement for the retired mod.

[pils]

Why is everyone saying uniq, meat, and liz are the only active mods?
LT is pretty active :/

[Shiznit]

Bludz is usually active. I haven't seen him lately though. I wonder whats going on.

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

Yes, but theres that a line between a life, and just plain neglect.

I already said that in situations like plusminus, I wouldn't mind if he was removed.

But in the case that a moderator have a life outside TAO, I don't think they should be removd.

[steve12]

DD, shut UP. I didn't say I don't care about their lives. All I said was they should find some time to get on here and do their job!!!!!!

Just as we get on regularly, they should be to! They are moderators Stop putting friggin' words in my mouth!

I never said "uhhh gah moderators shouldn't have lives uhhhhh", so don't quote it, fartbrain. All you can do is jump on that friggn' subject, and I didn't even say it. Shut it kid, before YOU have a valid post. You have no idea what you are talking about and are trying to make my image blurry. That just shows the kind of kid you are. And what about calling names? "Asshat". SHUT IT!


Seriously, I only came back here because you are trying to make a fool of me. For the last time, STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH!!! Idiot.

[Angelic-Hotfox]

Bludz is usually active. I haven't seen him lately though. I wonder whats going on.

Blud is an in game mod. Not a forum mod

[endless]

What am I exaggerating?

"No one cares about mod's life sitations. They are given a job, and are supposed to do it!"

Seriously. That's a ridiculous statement.
You're right on that but i'm sure hes more on my page as far as that goes.

I agree that life always comes before TAO, but come on.. theres a point where enough is enough.

exaggerations*

that was bugging me
Stupid spell checker....

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

DD, shut UP. I didn't say I don't care about their lives. All I said was they should find some time to get on here and do their job!!!!!!

Just as we get on regularly, they should be to! They are moderators Stop putting friggin' words in my mouth!

I never said "uhhh gah moderators shouldn't have lives uhhhhh", so don't quote it, fartbrain. All you can do is jump on that friggn' subject, and I didn't even say it. Shut it kid, before YOU have a valid post. You have no idea what you are talking about and are trying to make my image blurry. That just shows the kind of kid you are. And what about calling names? "Asshat". SHUT IT!


Seriously, I only came back here because you are trying to make a fool of me. For the last time, STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH!!! Idiot.

I took direct quotes.

That's not putting words in your mouth. And asshat was clearly a joke, but if you want to play that petty game, I'll concede that that was uncalled for.

[_Thunder_]

Blud is active, and if we all behave like we are suppose to we wouldent need that many mods to be that active.

[AlabamaBoy]

LT is active in GL, I rarely see him anywhere else. If he is somewhere else it is for a limited amount of time. Very limited.

It isnt the active forumers and respected members of the community they are moderating.

[meat.eater]

The word "petty" needs to be unavailable for use on this forum. I hate it.

[Angelic-Hotfox]

I think we're discussing Forum mods...not in-game mods

[steve12]

I took direct quotes.

That's not putting words in your mouth. And asshat was clearly a joke, but if you want to play that petty game, I'll concede that that was uncalled for.

Nope, look at the "Moderator's shouldn't have lives." one. Notice anything? The "S" is lower-case. Stop trying to scramble up my words and read my posts before responding.

[AlabamaBoy]

Why dont you just blame Bottle for "petty".

[endless]

Blud is active, and if we all behave like we are suppose to we wouldent need that many mods to be that active.
Im still on the page that we dont need anymore mod. We just need to replace the inactive ones...
LT is active in GL, I rarely see him anywhere else. If he is somewhere else it is for a limited amount of time. Very limited.

It isnt the active forumers and respected members of the community they are moderating.
Hell at least hes doing one server. Thats easily up to my standards..

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

Nope, look at the "Moderator's shouldn't have lives." one. Notice anything? The "S" is lower-case. Stop trying to scramble up my words and read my posts before responding.

"Noone cares about moderators lives."

From http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1134102&postcount=36 that quote.

I took exact quotes. Kthx.

[steve12]

How did most of the Moderators find time to get on TAO BEFORE they were mods? Why can't they find that time now? They should be able to. That is why they were given the mod status, because of what people saw of them before they stepped up. Then most grew away from TAO. Where's monko?

[Unforgottner]

This should just be the "Watch Steve and DD Argue" thread.

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

The word "petty" needs to be unavailable for use on this forum. I hate it.

Why ?

[_Thunder_]

Im still on the page that we dont need anymore mod. We just need to replace the inactive ones...

Hell at least hes doing one server. Thats easily up to my standards..

Agreed.

This should just be the "Watch Steve and DD Argue" thread.

:offtopic:

[Chaos 4.0]

We all know hes just trying to get into your pants...


Actually, I think Shamus would make a good mod. He's active and nice.

[steve12]

What endless said is exactly what I am trying to say. I'm ending this stupid arguement. If I offended anyone, sorry.

[endless]

This should just be the "Watch Steve and DD Argue" thread.
What about me?
Actually, I think Shamus would make a good mod. He's active and nice.
There are seriously plenty of those types of people on these boards.. Hell im nice and ive been active for 3 years now.
What endless said is exactly what I am trying to say. I'm ending this stupid argument. If I offended anyone, sorry.
Nothing more that fueling an argument that has been needed to get out for a long time now. I respect every one of your arguments.

[meat.eater]

Why is it every thread with the word 'mod' in it gets to 8 pages in 2 hours every time, without fail?

[endless]

Why is it every thread with the word 'mod' in it gets to 8 pages in 2 hours every time, without fail?

Cuz ever1 wunts 2 be 1!!!11!! LOL

But i'm still waiting on your comments on the topic.. Mr. Secret.

[***Duo***]

When I saw that link, I thought, "What the... ?"

Then I thought, "Eh, meat will do a fine job."

Congratulations meat.
Keep up the good work.
:)


-Duo

[Matt 34.5]

Peoples lives change as they grow up. They were given the responsability, and if they accepted the responsibility then they should fullfill their obligations, BUT they shouldn't be blamed for their inactivity, its bound to happen with just about everyone, especialy when you spacificaly choose people that have been here forever (which makes perfect sense, and shouldn't be done any other way, but does have its downside).

Stop starting rumors. If/when we decide to hire anyone new, the community will be the first to know. We're not out to be secretive.

What happened to you, your all corrupt by the system now, sharing their secrets and now including yourself in the "we" that is the staff, instead of the "we" that is the community. You use to be cool, man. :(

;)

[meat.eater]

But i'm still waiting on your comments on the topic.. Mr. Secret.

I've said eveything I've wanted to say.

What happened to you, your all corrupt by the system now, sharing their secrets and now including yourself in the "we" that is the staff, instead of the "we" that is the community. You use to be cool, man. :(

;)

:(

I think meat should start talking in 3rd person.

[AlabamaBoy]

No then he would sound too much like wolfman.

[Merdoc.]

Wolfy is gone :(

[AlabamaBoy]

:( Dont remind me.

[Merdoc.]

Wolfy...:crybaby:

WHY DID HE HAVE TO LEAVE

He is now a WoW addict

[Shiznit]

He was tired of seeing Canadians cry about him. :p

[mantis33]

I could quite possibly be wrong, but I believe the current mods are the ones who pick new mods when that times comes (not that the time is coming because aside from meat's new promotion, nothing has been stated). So if this is true, wouldn't NJ and AK have a monopoly on moderators? The majority of the current mods are in NJ/AK and although I believe that people don't necesarrily "want" to be biased, I can definately see it happening in the future.

Again, feel free to refute what I say.

[Merdoc.]

No? It doesn't matter what clan they are in. The moderators are mature and pick the best candidate, regardless of what clan they are in.

[mantis33]

No? It doesn't matter what clan they are in. The moderators are mature and pick the best candidate, regardless of what clan they are in.

I'd like to get some non-NJ members views on this. ;)

Nah I'm just joshing with ya Merdoc, I respect your opinion. But like I said, although these individuals ARE mature, in the back of their minds it is almost impossible to rule out at least "some" bias.

[steve12]

...I agree with Mantis. I just can't see these people picking people from other clans because they probably only see the positive sides of their clanmates, which is why they are in that clan. They will probably have that at the back of their when choosing over other clans. But I dunno.

[stryker]

Mods don't pick mods because of their clans.

Being a mod isn't just a different color of text, it's big beans (as you know). The selection process for a Mod takes a long time, candidates are not picked for modship based on anything but there character.

[Cuathon]

well basically every mod is from SI, NJ, or, AK.

[***Duo***]

I'd like to get some non-NJ members views on this. ;)

Nah I'm just joshing with ya Merdoc, I respect your opinion. But like I said, although these individuals ARE mature, in the back of their minds it is almost impossible to rule out at least "some" bias.

Back when there were... 4 mods? Outkast had 2 of the 4. (Snarr and Xerent.)
It wasn't a huge deal.


-Duo

[meat.eater]

There are currently no netjak mods on FPS.

Correction - Cuath: Most mods are clanless.

[Thargor]

I had an arument with Burning on this topic ages ago. This gist of it was that it gave a boost to the clans (to have a mod). I still think this is true. But I've seen nothing to think that clan affiliation would ever be a factor in selecting mods. As for mods being in NJ (none right now), SI, AK: NJ and SI tend to attract more mature, dependable people. I cant speak for AK as i dont know then well.

[Learz]

I hope you all realize that it doesn't matter what you think.

The Admins (and to a lesser extent, the Mods) will pick whomever they think is qualified enough.

That is, assuming, of course, that the Admins want more mods.

So, the question really is: how many people are going to start mod-whoreing in this thread?

[xerent]

I'd like to get some non-NJ members views on this. ;)

Nah I'm just joshing with ya Merdoc, I respect your opinion. But like I said, although these individuals ARE mature, in the back of their minds it is almost impossible to rule out at least "some" bias.

Mods aren't picked by clans.

And everyone should stop getting excited. We're not having any new faces.

[Lonely Tylenol]

LT is active in GL, I rarely see him anywhere else. If he is somewhere else it is for a limited amount of time. Very limited.

Usually when I get on another server, equ or Lamb has it covered.

Similarly, they're on GL a lot less than the other servers because I end up there a lot.

When either MG or I sees the other already modding the server we log onto, we usually just say "hi", and move to another server.

So don't worry. I'm as inactive on all servers as I need to be. ;)

Additionally, I want to post in this thread to divulge a little ... Privileged information:

Something vaguely pertaining to moderators may or may not happen in the near of far future.

Chew on that for a few hours.

[Merdoc.]

Mods aren't picked by clans.

And everyone should stop getting excited. We're not having any new faces.

^^ ownd.

[dirka dirka]

I would make a great mod, umkay?

[Ignition]

I think the people with no lives that just sit on TAO all day should be a mod...
I feel extra nerdy now ^_^'
I tend to see alot of purple, and very little blue.

It's one thing to question moderators, it's another to be flat out insulting to people giving up their free time to make it more fun for you to be here.
I agree here. Lives are more important then you game. woulud you reather have say... Glam for example, waist a years educatoin in a field she loves just to moderate some posts on a forum.

I would make a great mod, umkay?
That's what I kept wondering... it was menchiond like3-4 times. sure I mean your smart and all but a mod? Naa...
soon as you where promoted I can think of a few members that would be gone with out explination ;)

[dirka dirka]

See, I would want to ban them, but I've never abused power. I can still goto floors on TAO that you aren't suppose to, I'm talking floors above and beyond decimals. I can change the way my username appears, what it says when you loose to me, what it says when you win to me. I just don't abuse it as not to get banned.

Anyway, I doubt I'd ever become mod, but who knows. Certain people dislike me.

On a site note: LT does such a good job, people do forget to mention him. It's like he is part of the game now.

[Lonely Tylenol]

On a site note: LT does such a good job, people do forget to mention him. It's like he is part of the game now.

Sometimes I actually enjoy your sarcasm, dirka... :)

God: Bender, being God isn't easy. If you do too much, people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope. You have to use a light touch, like a safecracker or a pickpocket.
Bender: Or a guy who burns down a bar for the insurance money.
God: Yes, if he makes it look like an electrical thing. If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.

[AlabamaBoy]

My point was that I miss The Internet Bovine in Army sometimes, and lizz says shes going to take a break. So... come to army we have lots of riff raff for you. You will get to type "/kick" constantly.

[Glamdring]

I have another issue I want to bring up about moderators. I feel that if a moderator knows he/she will no longer be as active or involved with the forums and TAO, that he/she is responsible for making a decision and decide whether to resign or not, and message admin. That way, TAO leaders will know that this certain person can no longer keep up with moderating duties and can find a suitable replacement for the retired mod.

Actually, I already tried that. Didn't work that well, as you can see.

The response I got was basically - Yeah, you might not have time now, but there will probably be a time when you do, and there's no real reason to unmod you now and then remod you later.

Unless a moderator is actually failing in his or her duty, there is no reason to take them down, that I can see.

In response to the thread's actual topic, there *is* a new moderator. ME!! :bigsmile: :bigsmile:

[xerent]

30 Seconds to Mars has one good song.

And none of them are on your banner.

[Glamdring]

*When* is Genesis coming?

Noob

[actgfin1234]

Warcow for mod

[AlabamaBoy]

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.

This was originaly by a chinese philosopher talking to a king about how to rule his subjects. Lets see who knows this one :).

[Merdoc.]

*When* is Genesis coming?

Noob

IT HAS BEGAN

[steve12]

I have another issue I want to bring up about moderators. I feel that if a moderator knows he/she will no longer be as active or involved with the forums and TAO, that he/she is responsible for making a decision and decide whether to resign or not, and message admin. That way, TAO leaders will know that this certain person can no longer keep up with moderating duties and can find a suitable replacement for the retired mod.

EXACTLY what I was trying to say on one of my points. And Glam, nice answer.

It sounds like its the Admins that need replacing!! :cool: :p

[Hugh Junit]

Actually, I already tried that. Didn't work that well, as you can see.

The response I got was basically - Yeah, you might not have time now, but there will probably be a time when you do, and there's no real reason to unmod you now and then remod you later.

Unless a moderator is actually failing in his or her duty, there is no reason to take them down, that I can see.

In response to the thread's actual topic, there *is* a new moderator. ME!! :bigsmile: :bigsmile:

I think Angelic is talking about mods recognizing when they don't have the time to properly perform their duties, and stepping down in place of someone who does.
It's a personal choice, and not one I'd expect many people in that position to make, but I see her point.
Any moderator can step down at any time, for any reason. I did it, although my reason had nothing to do with time restraints.
But if I had reached a point, back when I was a mod, when I just didn't have the time or interest to regularly moderate these forums, I'm pretty sure I would have quit to create a position for someone who did.
Which is why I understand what she means.

[VAMP7]

Sorry if i sound insensitive but i dont give a crap whats going on in their lives..

They are promoted to do a job.. if they cant do it.. then someone should REPLACE them that can do the job.

I was banned for the EXACT same argument with HatchetKlown. So you might want to watch your words.

[VAMP7]

I think Angelic is talking about mods recognizing when they don't have the time to properly perform their duties, and stepping down in place of someone who does.
It's a personal choice, and not one I'd expect many people in that position to make, but I see her point.
Any moderator can step down at any time, for any reason. I did it, although my reason had nothing to do with time restraints.
But if I had reached a point, back when I was a mod, when I just didn't have the time or interest to regularly moderate these forums, I'm pretty sure I would have quit to create a position for someone who did.
Which is why I understand what she means.

Hugh i am largely saddened by your stepping down. You were the one mod besides Mushroom and Uniq that actually was involved in the forums and in the game. While i am sad that you decided to step down because of whatever your reasons were to make room for more mods. I am saddened by the fact that you were replaced by PlusMinus (Who might i add i have not seen post or log in in god knows how long) Mushroom_Girl Who while active still does not seem like all that much of a "mod" type person. And last we come to Veritas. Who i have come to respect and love with much heart. I do not see him all that much in the game or logged in. And HatchetKlown, I see him every once in a week or two. Not so much "active". And LonelyTylenol, a mod of great respect and who we have come to love. Is sadly coming to that once a week or two stage. :dry: Juliet, Romeo, Mozart, Plunder, Pillage, monkus, ClericArmy<<(ithink)BarbarianHorde, And mudgolem something.(i don't know if these we actually meant to be mods or just some part of a unfinished project) Are mods who come on so rarely that they should just be done away with altogether. In all i think that there are Alot of flaws in the Mod line but in a way it has kinds been made better in some very small way.

[stryker]

Monkus is Pillage.

And you didn't even mention Queue Tea (Glam), which shows how little she goes on.

[bludhoundz]

Blud is active, and if we all behave like we are suppose to we wouldent need that many mods to be that active.

I am not active.

The only reason I'm not PMing sergiy for a demotion is that I do not know if I will be inactive forever. I might find more time later on.

[VAMP7]

well yea i forgot a couple -_o

[AlabamaBoy]

I thought Scylla was a better name for Glam.

[Ächilles]

We don't need anymore mods. We're fine right now. I personally think we have too many. Go to other forums that have a lot. Big brother is always watching you.

[dirka dirka]

We don't need anymore mods. We're fine right now. I personally think we have too many. Go to other forums that have a lot. Big brother is always watching you.

You realize that the people whom say that big brother is watching you, usually have something to hide or are crack pots. There is nothing wrong with a little more mod presence, unless you're doing something wrong. In this forum it isn't big brother watching anyway, it is friends who in their courses have been selected to help uphold the rules.

[mushroom_girl]

How did most of the Moderators find time to get on TAO BEFORE they were mods? Why can't they find that time now? They should be able to. That is why they were given the mod status, because of what people saw of them before they stepped up. Then most grew away from TAO. Where's monko?

You think that I should ignore planning my mothers wedding to come here and watch the servers for you?
You think that a number of mods should ignore college applications to kick cyberers for you?
You think that any of us should quit or ignore ANYTHING important in their lives just to make sure that someone isn't bothering you in an online game?

Perfectly logical.

Correction - Cuath: Most mods are clanless.
Except on Banff...most of them are in Cookie Jar Pirates. ;)

Mushroom_Girl Who while active still does not seem like all that much of a "mod" type person.
You're just upset because I don't let you say dirty things to me. :p


There is no new addition to the Mod Squad. We are really fine the way we are, and even though the forums are well-managed I am happy to see meat step up. It can't hurt to "upgrade" someone who's already modding part of the game.
If you have a problem with decisions being made, acting like a jerk about it isn't going to do anything to help you. If anything, it will turn off the people who could fix the problem. Also, trying to start an "uprising" isn't going to work either. Come on, don't be silly!

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

You think that I should ignore planning my mothers wedding to come here and watch the servers for you?
You think that a number of mods should ignore college applications to kick cyberers for you?
You think that any of us should quit or ignore ANYTHING important in their lives just to make sure that someone isn't bothering you in an online game?

Perfectly logical.


Except on Banff...most of them are in Cookie Jar Pirates. ;)


You're just upset because I don't let you say dirty things to me. :p


There is no new addition to the Mod Squad. We are really fine the way we are, and even though the forums are well-managed I am happy to see meat step up. It can't hurt to "upgrade" someone who's already modding part of the game.
If you have a problem with decisions being made, acting like a jerk about it isn't going to do anything to help you. If anything, it will turn off the people who could fix the problem. Also, trying to start an "uprising" isn't going to work either. Come on, don't be silly!

Mushroom is bound by her need to be politically correct as a moderator.

I am dummy who shouldn't swear.

[dirka dirka]

DD is bound by his need to keep things simple so you'll understand.

Allow me to translate: Listen you trivial little asshole, you have no right to define what mods must do. You aren't a mod, you aren't an admin, you're a nobody. A never-was and never-will-be. Usually, I think naive realism is bad. In this case, you need to adapt to a naive realist outlook. When a moderator or admin isn't on these forums, they cease to exist. Got it? So it doesn't matter if they are taking a break or going to school, to you they cease to exist. That solves everything. By the way, I am a dummy who shouldn't swear.

[Soda]

Powza for modza.

[-57-]

Powza for modza.

You mean dictator?

;)

[VAMP7]

You think that I should ignore planning my mothers wedding to come here and watch the servers for you?
You think that a number of mods should ignore college applications to kick cyberers for you?
You think that any of us should quit or ignore ANYTHING important in their lives just to make sure that someone isn't bothering you in an online game?

Perfectly logical.


Except on Banff...most of them are in Cookie Jar Pirates. ;)


You're just upset because I don't let you say dirty things to me. :p


There is no new addition to the Mod Squad. We are really fine the way we are, and even though the forums are well-managed I am happy to see meat step up. It can't hurt to "upgrade" someone who's already modding part of the game.
If you have a problem with decisions being made, acting like a jerk about it isn't going to do anything to help you. If anything, it will turn off the people who could fix the problem. Also, trying to start an "uprising" isn't going to work either. Come on, don't be silly!

No i prevent you from saying dumb things that "might" start an uproar
Oh and btw it did.

[EleMENTAL]

Hugh Unit for Moderator!!!!!

My Slogan: Hugh Unit, the TAO Family Guy

I remember those days, I was so excited when Hugh got it :) Allstar still owes me lifetime rep!

[mushroom_girl]

No i prevent you from saying dumb things that "might" start an uproar
Oh and btw it did.

Except that you were the only person who objected, really. ;)

I'm just messing with you, don't things so seriously!

[elimination]

You think that I should ignore planning my mothers wedding to come here and watch the servers for you?
You think that a number of mods should ignore college applications to kick cyberers for you?
You think that any of us should quit or ignore ANYTHING important in their lives just to make sure that someone isn't bothering you in an online game?

Perfectly logical.


Except on Banff...most of them are in Cookie Jar Pirates. ;)


You're just upset because I don't let you say dirty things to me. :p


There is no new addition to the Mod Squad. We are really fine the way we are, and even though the forums are well-managed I am happy to see meat step up. It can't hurt to "upgrade" someone who's already modding part of the game.
If you have a problem with decisions being made, acting like a jerk about it isn't going to do anything to help you. If anything, it will turn off the people who could fix the problem. Also, trying to start an "uprising" isn't going to work either. Come on, don't be silly!Nicely put, liz!:cool: :)

[uniquinous]

Seeing as I am slightly responsible for starting this mess, i'ma comment a bit.

Believe it or not, Buster would make a good mod. He just has to learn to control his noobery and emotions.You could replace "Buster" with *anyone* :p

Not to mention, Uniq would make a good forum mod, as long as he doesn't go and edit my posts to say weird sexual things.I'm surprised you wouldn't think I'd just ban you right away :p

Are there any guidelines/requirements posted here on the forums which explain moderator duties and how you become a moderator? If not, I think we need basic rules, like "Moderator must be active and post at least once every two weeks, otherwise you will be automatically demoted" Or something along those lines.There shouldn't be an explanation on how to become a moderator. I think people figuring it out for themselves is the first step to proving you are even in the running. Activity comes and goes, and for people who aren't paid, that's fine as long as *someone* is around to cover the different needs of the forum.

I hope you all realize that it doesn't matter what you think.

The Admins (and to a lesser extent, the Mods) will pick whomever they think is qualified enough.

That is, assuming, of course, that the Admins want more mods.

So, the question really is: how many people are going to start mod-whoreing in this thread?We are not picking any more mods, so mod-whoring would be a bit late. However I will say that it *does* matter what all of you think. You might not be directly voting on these things, but we do listen to you. Community feedback is vital, and I'd be interested in anyone PMing me any reasons they think meat isn't well suited for this position so we can talk about it.

What I sa on the forums was 1.5 active mods. Threads were being locked, noobery removed, etc etc just fine. Where I come from tho, modding is about personal interactions, cooling heated arguments, answering a lot of stupid questions, etc. And THAT was what I saw was lacking at the moment. So I started complaining to serg about it. A thread was made. We looked at our options, and meat was selected. That's basically what this thread is asking for, right? What happened? Yeah, it's pretty straight forward :p Other things taken into account was that it's always difficult in the community to pick someone completely new - as such, we tried to limit ourselves to an active staff member who people can already trust and depend on.



30 Seconds to Mars has one good song.

And none of them are on your banner.
Yes - Oblivion - great gaming song too

[dirka dirka]

I do agree on one asshole comment made here so far. While I agree with the actions of TheBurning, she has worn out her welcome. She in fact doesn't have the right to just come around for a week once in awhile to enforce rules that we allow leniency on. It would be different if she was around more and it would be different if she enforced rules that any other mod also enforces.

[xerent]

Ok guys.

You caught me.

We're bringing a new moderator to the force.

However, we've already made the desicion, so there's no point in getting all excited, and clamouring amongst yourselves.

I'd like to introduce the newest member to the mod team now.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/389/screenck8.png

Please show him the same respect as you would any of us.

[Jonspen]

Eric for mod :D

[uniquinous]

Please show him the same respect as you would any of us.
so.... very little?

[dirka dirka]

Why meet is a good mod: http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31348

He just did 10x what all other mods have done this year in that thread alone.

[endless]

I do agree on one asshole comment made here so far. While I agree with the actions of TheBurning, she has worn out her welcome. She in fact doesn't have the right to just come around for a week once in awhile to enforce rules that we allow leniency on. It would be different if she was around more and it would be different if she enforced rules that any other mod also enforces.

Well said. I have nothing against TB as person. I just didnt enjoy that little raid and how it was enforced.
Ok guys.

You caught me.

We're bringing a new moderator to the force.

However, we've already made the desicion, so there's no point in getting all excited, and clamouring amongst yourselves.

I'd like to introduce the newest member to the mod team now.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/389/screenck8.png

Please show him the same respect as you would any of us.
Reminds me of someone....

so.... very little?
Now come on, look at it as... the glass is half full!

[HatchetKlown17]

From what I'm seeing many people are trying to push the issue of getting more mods (minus a few people whom are actually intelligent). But why? Is it because you all want to have the small chance of becomming a mod? You want to feel like someone's listening to you? Maybe because no one likes you?

Regardless. There are mods who are inactive, who were inactive (myself included) and those who have remained active. That's the point of having a team. If mods were active 24/7 we could have 3 mods; one for each server. The simple fact is that shit happens, and real life will always come first. My fiance is pregnant with my first child, and I ended up partnering up with a friend of mine in a real estate/mortgage company. So yes, I do think my few months hiatus was a tad more important then /kick'ing a few cybermonkeys.

If you haven't noticed, I am back to a more active schedule (generally mornings-afternoons) Glam should be making more of a return, and possibly a few others (won't name names just yet).

In short, SHUT THE HELL UP! Should the day arise where it's determined we need more mods, I think the modship team already has atleast 2 people in mind that would get damn near unanimous votes. So there is no point in even discussing it.

Tangent: Mantis, you of all people dissapoint me with your thought of favoritism. When the latest mods were picked AK had 3 mods in place... guess what, not a single AK member was put into voting. I know you're more mature and intelligent then you're acting in this thread, act like it.

[endless]

Well said!

Ill comment later when im not speechless.. :P

[dirka dirka]

From what I'm seeing many people are trying to push the issue of getting more mods (minus a few people whom are actually intelligent). But why? Is it because you all want to have the small chance of becomming a mod? You want to feel like someone's listening to you? Maybe because no one likes you?
Horrible logic. You just feel that everyone wants the chance to do what you're doing, when in reality it isn't that cool. You're a glorified tao user, do you want an award? Do you feel that someone is listening to you? If you do, you might want to rethink your feelings. Finally, you believe that being a mod has gotten you more friends? Sounds like you've sold out, Nancy.

Regardless. There are mods who are inactive, who were inactive (myself included) and those who have remained active. That's the point of having a team. If mods were active 24/7 we could have 3 mods; one for each server. The simple fact is that shit happens, and real life will always come first. My fiance got pregnant, and I ended up partnering up with a friend of mine in a real estate/mortgage company. So yes, I do think my few months hiatus was a tad more important then /kick'ing a few cybermonkeys.
Your point is that there by all rights should be a mod on every server 24 hours a day 7 days a week. You're saying that 3 mods who are on 24/7 would do that, but instead we have like 10 mods who all together add up to 24/7. This is your logical flaw: you're assuming that with the mods we have, the servers have that 24/7 coverage. You're dead wrong. It is more like 6/5/269 coverage. Why should other existing mods have to make up for your not being here, anyway? They shouldn't. They don't.

Now, only idiots are claiming that you should take a break out of real life to kick a few cybercats. I'm not saying that you should do that. However, you should at least acknowledge that you won't be here a lot and accept that more mods will help.

If you haven't noticed, I am back to a more active schedule (generally mornings-afternoons) Glam should be making more of a return, and possibly a few others (won't name names just yet).
The term we like to use for what you're describing is summer.

In short, SHUT THE HELL UP! Should the day arise where it's determined we need more mods, I think the modship team already has atleast 2 people in mind that would get damn near unanimous votes. So there is no point in even discussing it.
That is frankly an unreasonable post. No more should we "shut the hell up" then should you kick real life events to be here. We, as a community, have the common feeling of lack of moderators. We will talk about it. We will talk about who. In short, we really don't care that you feel there is no point in talking about it. In actuality, we really don't care even if there is no point in talking about it.

[Learz]

In actuality, we really don't care even if there is no point in talking about it.

Out of everything in this thread, that is the truest thing yet.

[HatchetKlown17]

That is frankly an unreasonable post. No more should we "shut the hell up" then should you kick real life events to be here. We, as a community, have the common feeling of lack of moderators. We will talk about it. We will talk about who. In short, we really don't care that you feel there is no point in talking about it. In actuality, we really don't care even if there is no point in talking about it.

First and foremost, I'm going to ignore your first few points because you changed my context around (you're good at that btw; it's how you win arguments).

Endless started this thread to discuss meat. it has turned into a plea of "look at me when you guys hire mods" as do all threads that contain the word "moderator". From my few talks with moderators until today, it has been a constant fact that those who express a desire to be a moderator generally are the worst choices.

EDIT: I must say I laughed at your "summer" comment. Considering those of us who are returning have jobs that don't lighten up come summer. Other aspects of our lives have just given us more freetime.

[dirka dirka]

First and foremost, I'm going to ignore your first few points because you changed my context around (you're good at that btw; it's how you win arguments).
Hehe. It isn't that I don't agree with you on some points. It is more that as a community, we'll never stop bitching.

Endless started this thread to discuss meat. it has turned into a plea of "look at me when you guys hire mods" as do all threads that contain the word "moderator". From my few talks with moderators until today, it has been a constant fact that those who express a desire to be a moderator generally are the worst choices.
That isn't logical though. Desire = Bad? Lack of Ambition = Good? There might be select cases. Generally, I'm not seeing how that can work.

EDIT: I must say I laughed at your "summer" comment. Considering those of us who are returning have jobs that don't lighten up come summer. Other aspects of our lives have just given us more freetime.
So now I'm a jester? A lowly user that you can laugh at whenever you feel like it? You're so mean!!
Just kidding.
Well, maybe for some of you that is the case. Things like school though, usually allow free time in the summer.

[HatchetKlown17]

Hehe. It isn't that I don't agree with you on some points. It is more that as a community, we'll never stop bitching.
Bitching is human nature, but if you can convey your disagreements or opinions in a more constructive way, you'll go alot further then simple bitching and moaning.

That isn't logical though. Desire = Bad? Lack of Ambition = Good? There might be select cases. Generally, I'm not seeing how that can work.
Desire is a good thing, but those who have a desire to help the community and not have a glorified position of a urinal for the community make a much better mod.

So now I'm a jester? A lowly user that you can laugh at whenever you feel like it? You're so mean!!
I know! But consider im a klown too. :D

Just kidding.
Well, maybe for some of you that is the case. Things like school though, usually allow free time in the summer.
Yes, but the majority of the mods in school are active. :D

[Jonspen]

Hehe. It isn't that I don't agree with you on some points. It is more that as a community, we'll never stop bitching.


That isn't logical though. Desire = Bad? Lack of Ambition = Good? There might be select cases. Generally, I'm not seeing how that can work.

I see what Hatchet meant about you changing context and being good at it. I'm not sure that the word "Desire" was best suited, but I know exactly what he meant. But I can see where you're coming from, and the fact is that you can desire something without asking for it. I bet that about 90% of the people here, if offered modship, would accept.

When I was a mod for legendsforums, and I was discussing my feelings about how Omega chose the mods, uni explained how mods were chosen here. How Hatchet and uni sent in professional applications and were chosen as a result of that, rather than shamelessly promoting themselves as mods (which is what Hatchet was getting at, just in the wrong wording)

So now I'm a jester? A lowly user that you can laugh at whenever you feel like it? You're so mean!!
Just kidding.

Yeah dude, you smell.

Well, maybe for some of you that is the case. Things like school though, usually allow free time in the summer.

High majority of the mods are out of school, which is no suprise because they're more mature and more intelligent, not to mention more trustworthy. Lets say you ran a factory business, would you trust a 16 year old with maintaining it, or a 20-30 year old with maintaining it. And as Hatchet said, was working adults, they have their own jobs in real life which come before their moderator job, just as I'm sure alot of us take a break when we have exams, coursework or even a job too.

EDIT: Just saw Hatchet's post, and he said it alot better than me, so you can just ignore me :D

[dirka dirka]

Bitching is human nature, but if you can convey your disagreements or opinions in a more constructive way, you'll go a lot further then simple bitching and moaning.
Apparently not though. Administrators don't listen. If the administrators make you a moderator, they tell you not to listen. If you're a user, 9 times out of 10 you're friends with a moderator and take on their persona of not listening. So in the end, a small percent of the community listens, regardless of what form the criticism is in.

Desire is a good thing, but those who have a desire to help the community and not have a glorified position of a urinal for the community make a much better mod.
Agree to disagree. Herein is the problem. We've stumbled upon TAO's Pandora's Box. In the past, all they have made into mods are those who desire to help but don't desire to be mods. This has resulted in mods leaving, or taking extended leaves, for reasons that don't matter for this discussion. People whom desire to help the community and desire to be moderators might not have forgotten about TAO so easily. We wouldn't know though, because in that recondite precedent, the moderators and administrators are potentially hindering TAO's development as a community.

I know! But consider im a klown too. :D
Just kidding.
Yes, but the majority of the mods in school are active. :D
The majority, yes. Since we have less than 20 moderators, that means the minority could represent 5 or so.

High majority of the mods are out of school, which is no suprise because they're more mature and more intelligent, not to mention more trustworthy. Lets say you ran a factory business, would you trust a 16 year old with maintaining it, or a 20-30 year old with maintaining it.
This point I would like to reply to, even though you requested I ignore you. :bigsmile:

I'm not sure, these days. Granted, a 20-30 year old has more to loose than a 16 year old. That is the only big difference I can see. As, in the past, I've seen 20-30 year olds act more immature than a 12 year old, especially when it comes to money.

[HatchetKlown17]

High majority of the mods are out of school, which is no suprise because they're more mature and more intelligent, not to mention more trustworthy. Lets say you ran a factory business, would you trust a 16 year old with maintaining it, or a 20-30 year old with maintaining it. And as Hatchet said, was working adults, they have their own jobs in real life which come before their moderator job, just as I'm sure alot of us take a break when we have exams, coursework or even a job too.

Age or education honestly has little to do with maturity. In this case let me point out LT. He's what, 16... Prolly one of the most mature and intellgent people on this forum; granted he's in college.

The point I was making is that although a few of the people who express desire to be a moderator might make suitable moderators, the VAST majority won't.

[dirka dirka]

The point I was making is that although a few of the people who express desire to be a moderator might make suitable moderators, the VAST majority won't.
However, people who don't express desire to become moderators have proven that they are apt to leave the TAO forums, granted it might be for good reasons. I wonder if people who do express desire to become moderators would be less likely to leave the TAO forums?


Anyway, we could debate all day and get nowhere, mostly because I am relying on the what ifs.

[HatchetKlown17]

Agree to disagree. Herein is the problem. We've stumbled upon TAO's Pandora's Box. In the past, all they have made into mods are those who desire to help but don't desire to be mods. This has resulted in mods leaving, or taking extended leaves, for reasons that don't matter for this discussion. People whom desire to help the community and desire to be moderators might not have forgotten about TAO so easily. We wouldn't know though, because in that recondite precedent, the moderators and administrators are potentially hindering TAO's development as a community.

This is actually the first time I can read something you've written and not have to rebuild it to put it into context. To be even further amazed, I can agree with you. But how to seperate those who want to actually aid the game and those who want to aid themselves.

I will let a tid bit of a secret get out here... going back to clan monopolies. A certain AK member who was very active in both game and forum, liked and respected, and had all shots of being a candidate made a comment to me on the side that erked me... "so if chosen how long should I wait to ask for units".

Even if he did want to help the community, he had goals of his own. This is why we go through a process of tossing names into the hat, and actually ripping them to shreds. Anything any of us can say negative about them comes out. That way there are no secrets (that we know of) if they are selected.

To be honest, being a mod sucks sometimes. When there are users who have symbols which are not installed on your computer, sergiy isn't online, and the lobby is freaking out at you... you want to rip your own hair out. But the real benefit comes in when you remove those who are scamming, spamming, cheating or hacking, and know that those who support the TAO community will actually enjoy their time online. That's the reason we stay, people think it's because of units, benefits, etc... Last time I played a game was about 6 months ago (including mod units).

[AlabamaBoy]

Indeed most people operate for their own ends.

But it wouldnt be that difficult to seperate the people who would do a good job, and the people who would say, "sweet more units!".

[dirka dirka]

This is actually the first time I can read something you've written and not have to rebuild it to put it into context. To be even further amazed, I can agree with you. But how to seperate those who want to actually aid the game and those who want to aid themselves.
Hehe. I just love linguistics and semantics. I'm glad we can agree.

I will let a tid bit of a secret get out here... going back to clan monopolies. A certain AK member who was very active in both game and forum, liked and respected, and had all shots of being a candidate made a comment to me on the side that erked me... "so if chosen how long should I wait to ask for units".
LMFAO. That is truly hilarious. To some people, though, that is all being a moderator is.

Even if he did want to help the community, he had goals of his own. This is why we go through a process of tossing names into the hat, and actually ripping them to shreds. Anything any of us can say negative about them comes out. That way there are no secrets (that we know of) if they are selected.
That is very interesting. I wonder how many secrets came out about me in the past.

To be honest, being a mod sucks sometimes. When there are users who have symbols which are not installed on your computer, sergiy isn't online, and the lobby is freaking out at you... you want to rip your own hair out. But the real benefit comes in when you remove those who are scamming, spamming, cheating or hacking, and know that those who support the TAO community will actually enjoy their time online. That's the reason we stay, people think it's because of units, benefits, etc... Last time I played a game was about 6 months ago (including mod units).
I'd be more apt to think that being a mod sucks all of the time. Granted, you're helping, and truly you do get something in return. However, it is like an unpaid job. It is like working at mighty taco only to get a taco as pay.

[Jonspen]

Age or education honestly has little to do with maturity. In this case let me point out LT. He's what, 16... Prolly one of the most mature and intellgent people on this forum; granted he's in college.

The point I was making is that although a few of the people who express desire to be a moderator might make suitable moderators, the VAST majority won't.

I know that's true, but it just seems abit weird as those who deserve it most may not get it unless they ask, because generally the best moderator candidates just do their thing everyday. I think the thing with the professional applications was a great idea.

[HatchetKlown17]

I'd be more apt to think that being a mod sucks all of the time. Granted, you're helping, and truly you do get something in return. However, it is like an unpaid job. It is like working at mighty taco only to get a taco as pay.

Having said this, you for one can understand that mods cannot be here all the time. So no bitching about mods not being on enough. :p

zomg, im finally joking with dirka! O.o

[dirka dirka]

lol.. ::runs away::

[uniquinous]

This is actually the first time I can read something you've written and not have to rebuild it to put it into context. To be even further amazed, I can agree with you.I know he's up to something - suddenly he's being reasonable and decent... .....

That is very interesting. I wonder how many secrets came out about me in the past.Gotta be considered for the position first :p

I know that's true, but it just seems abit weird as those who deserve it most may not get it unless they ask, because generally the best moderator candidates just do their thing everyday. I think the thing with the professional applications was a great idea.I disagree - the people who just do their thing are usually noticed. m_g didn't advertise at all - neither do any of the people who I notice.

[Jonspen]

I know he's up to something - suddenly he's being reasonable and decent... .....

Gotta be considered for the position first :p

I disagree - the people who just do their thing are usually noticed. m_g didn't advertise at all - neither do any of the people who I notice.

Who you notice doesn't count. It's the admins who make the new mods, and how are they to know who the good applicants are unless they ask, hense why I thought that the professional application was a good idea.

[dirka dirka]

Gotta be considered for the position first :p

Let us be honest, I'm probably number one contestant as far as that goes. I want 10 dragons and 11 knights and I want to ban The Cheat.

[S_K_O_F]

Who you notice doesn't count. It's the admins who make the new mods, and how are they to know who the good applicants are unless they ask, hense why I thought that the professional application was a good idea.

In the past, choosing moderators was easier because of the quantity of quality of people in the forum. There are still quality people here, just not much qauntity of quality.

[endless]

I disagree - the people who just do their thing are usually noticed. m_g didn't advertise at all - neither do any of the people who I notice.

Sooo does this thread count as advertising? :)

[S_K_O_F]

Sooo does this thread count as advertising? :)

It isn't a place to submit your resume.

[endless]

It isn't a place to submit your resume.

Damn caught by my own rule.. :(

[uniquinous]

Who you notice doesn't count. It's the admins who make the new mods, and how are they to know who the good applicants are unless they ask, hense why I thought that the professional application was a good idea.Welcome to FPS - this isn't Legends. Mods aren't picked by blind and biased admins who don't allow for criticism or community feedback. The mods are the admin's eyes and ears. He's the one who actually makes changes (deletions, upgrades, mods, etc). We're the ones who tell him what to do. erm... that came out a bit wrong. I don't mean to say we bully him, but it basically means our mod lounge is an open discussion of things to be done. All the mods consult one another on just about anything that's mildly questionable. We use each other as guidance, reassurance, etc. And when it comes to pick a new mod, it's the existing staff who brings suggestions. People like who I notice. Then it's everyone as a whole discussing each person openly and fairly. We may disagree at first, but consensus is almost always met eventually (which is pretty hot, as I come from a Quaker school which focuses it's government/way-of-life on such practices).

Point being: the staff here trusts in one another, even if we disagree at times, and we work through things. We are the ones who need to do the noticing. :)

Let us be honest, I'm probably number one contestant as far as that goes. I want 10 dragons and 11 knights and I want to ban The Cheat.7 dragons, 5 knights, and the Cheat is mine. Deal?

Sooo does this thread count as advertising? :)i can assure you nothing said in this thread would ever influence any of the moderators (paypalling me another $50 does) >.>

[S_K_O_F]

Welcome to FPS - this isn't Legends. Mods aren't picked by blind and biased admins who don't allow for criticism or community feedback. The mods are the admin's eyes and ears. He's the one who actually makes changes (deletions, upgrades, mods, etc). We're the ones who tell him what to do. erm... that came out a bit wrong. I don't mean to say we bully him, but it basically means our mod lounge is an open discussion of things to be done. All the mods consult one another on just about anything that's mildly questionable. We use each other as guidance, reassurance, etc. And when it comes to pick a new mod, it's the existing staff who brings suggestions. People like who I notice. Then it's everyone as a whole discussing each person openly and fairly. We may disagree at first, but consensus is almost always met eventually (which is pretty hot, as I come from a Quaker school which focuses it's government/way-of-life on such practices).

Point being: the staff here trusts in one another, even if we disagree at times, and we work through things. We are the ones who need to do the noticing. :)

7 dragons, 5 knights, and the Cheat is mine. Deal?

i can assure you nothing said in this thread would ever influence any of the moderators (paypalling me another $50 does) >.>

It would probably be more efficient to paypal certain people to make them stop sucking up.

[Jonspen]

Welcome to FPS - this isn't Legends.

Wait, it's not? O_O

[mushroom_girl]

Yes, but the majority of the mods in school are active. :D
I think it's because we use the school computers to go on TAO when we're not supposed to. ;)

Who you notice doesn't count. It's the admins who make the new mods, and how are they to know who the good applicants are unless they ask, hense why I thought that the professional application was a good idea.
I just feel like pointing out...who we notice DOES count. When mods are selected the Admins ask us because we know the community better than they do. We're much more active and we communicate with everyone on more than a professional level. No one here is buddy-buddy with Bills, but they are with numerous mods. Then we have eachother to rip all of you apart for our amusement! :happy:

[cs_zero]

I really don't know why all of you are arguing over this... it is a well known fact that I am going to be the next Mod on these forums.

[mushroom_girl]

Family does not mean you get power.

Sorry cs, you suck. ;)

[cs_zero]

hey!
Let us not forget who got you that mod job in the first place! :eek:
thats right, i went there...

[xerent]

hey!
Let us not forget who got you that mod job in the first place! :eek:
thats right, i went there...

That was me, in all actuality.

[speaker4thedead]

Who cares who gets mod next, the only thing itll change around here is the size of some members of the communitys heads.

[cs_zero]

That was me, in all actuality.

Dam it XE! I left the money in the hollow tree, just as we agreed! and yet you couldn't just.... ZIP IT!!?

[xerent]

If by money, you mean old newspaper clipping of Richard Nixon photos in a shady hotel getting it on with several unnamed members of the American Association for Free Beastiality Rights.

Then yes, yes you did.

[endless]

4,999 posts? #5,000 better be a good one...

[xerent]

F you and your base 10 obsession.

Where's the love for post 1024?

[uniquinous]

pff no one cares for 2, loser

[xerent]

Yea... base 2 doesn't matter.

The interwebz can get along well enough without it.

[endless]

1024?

It ... thats just lame!

10 base incriments is the way to go.. it keeps the world spinning! i mean.. come on.. imagine just for a seccond that cs DIDN'T do a huge post on his 5,000th post.. imagine the sheer CHAOS...

i know about you.. MR. President..

[uniquinous]

i'm in ur box, stealin ur 0's and 1's


http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/e3ecattech.jpg

[S_K_O_F]

i'm in ur box, stealin ur 0's and 1's


http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/e3ecattech.jpg

That pic would be so much better if that computer actually had guts in it. It is completely empty.

[uniquinous]

guts? you... want me to stab the cat? :huh:

[S_K_O_F]

guts? you... want me to stab the cat? :huh:

COMPUTER GUTS!!! motherboard, harddrive, etc...:dry:

[xerent]

I see a 4 pin molex power connector in there.

Besides, maybe he's in the middle of building one.

[dirka dirka]

I see a 4 pin molex power connector in there.

Isn't that a little redundant? It's like saying I see a 4-pin, plastic, white, molex power connector. :bigsmile:

Ahh I'm so bored.

[Merdoc.]

I see a 4 pin molex power connector in there.

Besides, maybe he's in the middle of building one.

Yes and I need a new 700 watt power supply because my Nvidia 7900 and AMD 64 x 2 duel core processor 4200+ + my 4 fans can't take it.

Just bought a new 700 watt power supply for $200, great deal. Has connections so when I duel my video cards it goes directly to it ^__________^

Oh yeah +over clocked video card ftw. GG PC.

I have to be on my laptop with Vista on it. :(

[endless]

As long as the voltage on the +12v rail can support the card.. :P

700 watt is a little over kill.. but $200, that pretty reasonable.

Again watch the voltage when you want to upgrade to the dual cards. Check your 12v voltage. :)

[Merdoc.]

I got this :)

I currently have 450 witch isn't enough. 700 is good and it has the accessories.

[dirka dirka]

Yes and I need a new 700 watt power supply because my Nvidia 7900 and AMD 64 x 2 duel core processor 4200+ + my 4 fans can't take it.

Just bought a new 700 watt power supply for $200, great deal. Has connections so when I duel my video cards it goes directly to it ^__________^

Oh yeah +over clocked video card ftw. GG PC.

I have to be on my laptop with Vista on it. :(

So you're saying you bought a 700w psu because your computer can't handle a 700w psu? Anyway, 700w is overkill for any system. Dual psu wou