Obi-Wan Kenobi Battle Reports

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Big X
It was a good game, very well played by Big X and he won. I made alot of mistakes, gave up my cleric on a bad move which allowed his dragon to kill it about 2/3's into the game. We both lost our clerics about the same time.

Basically it came down to his 11HP and 16HP knight vs my 6HP dragon, 21HP scout and 17HP knight. Dragon was in the rear corner and had to wait 2 turns, scout was moved to in front of dragon, 17HP knight was moved to side of dragon, thus dragon was protected. His 2 knights were 1 move away from attack. His 16HP (+12 blocking) knight came in and side hit by 17HP (0 blocking), killing it. Then his 11HP (0 blocking) knight came in and side hit my scout (0 blocking), taking off 20HP and leaving my scout with 1HP. Then his 16HP knight side hit my dragon (0 blocking), killing it, leaving only a 1HP scout vs 11HP knight and 16HP knight. His other knight came in behind my scout and killed it as well.
A couple of blocks would have changed the outcome but thats how it goes. Overall Big X outplayed me and made better decisions, so he deserved the win anyhow. Great Game.

[VAMP7]

Dam not the real obi wan kanobi. Oh well looks like a good game

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Another great game I played with Judgement the other day. It was a draw... and in my opinion for a silly reason.
Judge had a 30HP Golem Ambusher and a 16HP knight. I had a 21HP Dragon. His knight and GA were next to each other in diagonal adjacent squares. It was my turn, so I moved dragon to square where I could attack both pieces. I killed his Knight and had to wait 3 turns. So I kept pressing the timer. Problem is that Judgement never moved his GA, he kept pressing timer too. This caused a draw before my dragon was able to move. Too bad, cause I had that one. But if I was Judge I would have done the same thing.
I think the draw system needs to be revised to 6 consecutive timer presses. 3 by each opponent. This will cover situations like above from turning into draws

[philrox]

Judgement is DLS(Dark Lord Sesshomaru)

[Silver Coast]

good job obi wan. Never played Judgement, I have played Big X though. I won, but hes a pretty good player (I won by 5 in free against him, not sure if he had the skill of a 1800+ though..).

[steve12]

Great wins, Obi!

But, as many mods have said, there are risks to using a Dragon in your form. One of which forces a draw in endgame if you move and attack on the same turn. What is weird though, is that those two great players didn't kill it off earlier. It sounds like it di some massive damage before it was killed in both games. Again, nice job.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Rayray236 challenged me today to a freestyle game. Rayray was using a Cleric, frosty, 2 scouts, dragon, 3 knights and a mud... all one one side. I guess some call it an Anti-Rush set.

It came down to my 2 scouts, 2 knights and beast rider vs his 50HP knight.
Overall a fun game. Rayray really kept me on my toes and at times I thought he was going to win. But a couple of bad moves on his part gave me a significant advantage about 1/3 into the game. If not for that the game would have been very close.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Wow, another draw game! I think Yoshi would have won if he did not move his whisp into my backfield 2 moves into the game. I think that move was premature. Other than that it was tick for tack the entire game.
Before the game Yoshi joined TeamUSA.
Yoshi was using a rush set, a little of center. No cleric, Dragon, DSM, GA, 2 scouts, 3 knights, mud and whisp.
It basically came down to my 56HP dragon and 11HP scout vs his 26HP scout, 11HP knight and 55HP GA. His scout and GA were next to eachother but on adjacent diagonal squares. His knight came in and frontal hit my -20 blocking scout, killing it (hmm, every time I frontal hit a -20 scout is ALWAYS blocks). I then killed his knight with my dragon and did not move dragon after attack. Yoshi then attacked my dragon with his scout and it hit. He then attacked dragon with his GA and it missed. I moved my dragon to just in front of his GA and killed his scout. I had to wait 3 turns after that move. So we just pressed the timer 3 times and the game drew. Real good game. Too bad it was a draw due to the pressing of the timer 3 times.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Well, lost against a DSM pyro bomb type set.
Gold named Stoutspell was using DSM, 3 pyros, 2 witches, 1 scout, dragon, cleric. For some reason all of his pyros and DSM blocked everything, every single one. If not for the blocks I would have had it. 30% blocking on DMS and pyros? Yeah, right...

[philrox]

You just keep going on, and on, and on. Don't you?

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

You just keep going on, and on, and on. Don't you?

Much like the Energizer bunny.
I figure I should only use one thread to post my battle reports instead of making a new thread for each battle.

Oh, and I had to post this screen shot cause it was too funny. I put my piece down and some gray jumped me (like Match Strike did). The gray then proceeded to move their cleric out front and heal everyone on the second move.... not to mention their set was totally not good. Then they complained that 'this game sucks'. After the screen shot I offered to give the player some lessons, they refused.
http://www.teamiea.com/images/newbie.jpg

[_Darkness_]

And your set is just so awesome. :p

[philrox]

Much like the Energizer bunny.
I figure I should only use one thread to post my battle reports instead of making a new thread for each battle.

Oh, and I had to post this screen shot cause it was too funny. I put my piece down and some gray jumped me (like Match Strike did). The gray then proceeded to move their cleric out front and heal everyone on the second move.... not to mention their set was totally not good. Then they complained that 'this game sucks'. After the screen shot I offered to give the player some lessons, they refused.
http://www.teamiea.com/images/newbie.jpg

That's funny. he also didn't even have 10 pieces out on the field, he had nine.

[Silver Coast]

And your set is just so awesome. :p

Yea uhh, Obi...your set needs some work if you didnt already know that was a joke. First of all your set has nothing protecting your cleric, a dragon could just hop your lines blast your cleric and that will most likely be game from there. Second, this is optional, but I like to use BR when I rush or DSM rush, but not when I anti, I would put in a frost golem in front of your cleric. Usually in anti games, frost golems will come in handy. But what you really need is a unit to protect your cleric, basically by putting it in front of your cleric.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Yea uhh, Obi...your set needs some work if you didnt already know that was a joke. First of all your set has nothing protecting your cleric, a dragon could just hop your lines blast your cleric and that will most likely be game from there. Second, this is optional, but I like to use BR when I rush or DSM rush, but not when I anti, I would put in a frost golem in front of your cleric. Usually in anti games, frost golems will come in handy. But what you really need is a unit to protect your cleric, basically by putting it in front of your cleric.

Yeah, good points. I'm still experimenting. Trying to find a good mix of pieces and position for a comfortable freestyle set. I just used the LW cause I got tore up the other day by golds using DMS's and multiple pyros.

[philrox]

That would help. In most anti's it is the Frost Golem technique.

This here was my very first anti. It was customized and helped made by Matt.(Blind Destruction)

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u231/philrox427/anti2.jpg

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

yeah, i was using an almost identical set before.

P.S. you may want to crop that image you posted cause it is too big...

[philrox]

This screen shot was taken a while ago. I just went into photo bucket and took it from there.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Just played a game on Revelation server against Jordan12345. I was testing a new set. Jordan12345 jumped me. I was glad he didn't talk alot in game cause that is real distracting. Jordan called my set noobish and then proceeded to laugh. But hey, I'm used to people laughing at me so it's all good.
Jordan was using DSM, 2 pyros, whisp, dragon, 2 knights, witch and mud... no cleric. I was picked to make first move. So I offed one of his pyros with my LW on first move. Jordan then hit my knight and frosty with his witch and moved her back after the attack. After that I attacked his whisp with scout A. He then moved his 2nd pyro into range of my LW and hit my LW and Beserk. I then healed. He then frontal attacked my knight. Basically the game was over at that point. I hit his whisp again with Scout A and retreated scout. He moved in his mud. I hit mud with my knight. A couple moves later he surrendered.

Screen shot here:
http://www.teamiea.com/images/jordan12345.jpg

I am still testing my sets and trying to come up with something.
Until next time, Mr Rogers siging out.

[philrox]

I love the clan that was made.

*** Snow Dragon has formed a new clan, Snow Dragons. ***

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Well, just beat a gold on GL known as JasonSpades. A couple of hours ago he was telling everyone in the lobby that he would OWN then. After a while he changed his story to "free stats". Anywho, I put down on a board on floor 6 and told the lobby "open challenge on floor 6". JasonSpades jumped me. Sure enough, he had a DSM bomb or version thereof. Dragon, DSM, 4 pyros and 3 witches.. all grouped on one side. Fortunately, I was opp side. I had first move. I advanced my knight and side hit his pyro. Typical, it blocked. I get the crappiest blocking against DSM bombs. He hit my mud and whisp with the pyro that just blocked. I then advanced my knight again and side hit his second pyro. It hit. I took out three of his pyros and lost a mud and knight in the process. So I was one piece ahead. The rest of my units were out of range so JasonSpade advanced his dragon. I then poisoned his last pyro. He had to wait 1 turn before he could hit my whisp cause it was out of range from his other pieces. That would have knocked his last pyro down to 18 and I would have hit it with my scouts... leaving him with only 3 witches, dragon and DSM vs Dragon, knight, 2 scouts, beastrider, cleric and soon to be dead whisp that was poisioning his last pyro.
JasonSpades then surrendered.
The win felt good because he was mouthing off real bad in the lobby, calling everyone noobs and saying he owns. I'm just glad it was opp side cause he would have owned me if it was same side.

[Maverik07]

You missed my game vs you

[OFFLINE]

who won?

[philrox]

I don't see the screen shot.

[OFFLINE]

me either :confused:

[philrox]

He should fix it.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

You missed my game vs you

You're right Mav, I forgot about you.
I played Hot Action Cop on GL earlier today. His game was stronger than mine. I think he had a 26HP dragon and a 21 HP knight and a 50HP GA and a 11HP mud. I had a 60HP dragon, 11HP knight and 20HP knight. He whacked my 20HP knight with his dragon. I surrendered at that point. I made some bad moves early in the game. Just a couple of things would have made the game much closer. For example, initial piece positioning and a couple of lucky blocks. But all that would mean is that I would have won by luck, not skill. Until we meet again Mav...

[Abyssion]

You won't even play me :mad:

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

You won't even play me :mad:

What? You asked me for a game, I said sure. Then you said 'nah, I'm joking. I have to go now' Then I said, 'ok, later then'
I play anyone who wants to play, IF I have time.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Close game, freestyle. That is the only form I play. Beserker3 won by a 8HP Scout. Again, I made some mistakes and did not think stuff through enough.

Beserker3 had a DMS type set. DSM, 2 pyros, 2 scouts, mud, cleric, GA, Dragon.

[Abyssion]

What? You asked me for a game, I said sure. Then you said 'nah, I'm joking. I have to go now' Then I said, 'ok, later then'
I play anyone who wants to play, IF I have time.

No, I mean ME not Blind Destruction (only other person who can get on Abyssion). I wanted to play and you said you just woke up. I asked to play an hour later, you said you didn't want to play. Half an hour after that, you still didn't want to play.

[philrox]

Owned.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

No, I mean ME not Blind Destruction (only other person who can get on Abyssion). I wanted to play and you said you just woke up. I asked to play an hour later, you said you didn't want to play. Half an hour after that, you still didn't want to play.

Just got back in town. I was out for a few days. To answer your post... according to my memory it was 5am MY time when you asked to play and an hour later would have been 6am, 1/2 hour past that would have been 6:30am. Also, I never tell people I don't want to play. I never ever say that. What I tell people is that I 'cannot play', which is usually the case as I am very busy taking care of my business and customers. If I have time, I play.
Second, how in gods name am I supposed to know Blind Destruction has access to your account and it was him that I actually played? Bottom line is that Abyssion (whether it's you or not) asked me to play and I said sure.... because I HAD the time when Abyssion asked me. I played. So Just try to catch me again when I have time.

[philrox]

He has a point, you know.

[Abyssion]

Meh, whatever we got to play today and I gave him tips through the entire game :D

Glad I didn't tell him how to kill my DSM though =)

[philrox]

lol...

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Meh, whatever we got to play today and I gave him tips through the entire game :D

Glad I didn't tell him how to kill my DSM though =)

Oh, I remember. I played Mr Anton. So Mr Anton = Abyssion. Got it. Yes, you did give me some tips. And you also said That I would have won the game if I would have healed. But I did not heal the entire game. Guess I was just being stupid, overconfident or both. Anyway, good game, you played well. I am still learning this game so I expect getting a win from me will only get more difficult as time goes on... hehehe:p

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Just had a great game with Maverik07/Hot action Cop on GL. He played smart and forced a draw. It came down to his 17HP GA vs my 68HP dragon. Needless to say it was a draw. Screen Shot below.

http://www.teamiea.com/images/hotactioncop.jpg

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

It was a good game. Alan jumped me. He was using a turt set with a LW and furg. He also had a Dragon, knight, frost, cleric, stone and 2 scouts. We were opp sides. I was using some kind of corner set anti-rush. Dragon, 2 scouts, whisp, frosty, cleric, 2 knights and mud. First thing he did was stone. First move I did was de-stone him with my scout. After that I took out his 2 scouts as soon as I could since they were his only range units. After that the game moved along pretty quick. Towards the end it slowed. Towards the end he had a LW, furg, stone and knight... basically only one mobile attack unit, a 41HP knight. I had a 64HP Dragon and 2 knights (11HP and 50HP). His furg and stone were almost dead (8HP and 13HP) I was one hit away from finishing his furg with my 50HP knight when he surrendered. Unless I threw the game or got a d/c there was no way I was gonna lose at that point. So Alanistar10 surrendered and said gg. And it was.

[Abyssion]

Mr Anton doesn't = Abyssion

I just have access.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Bob The Beat asked for a game while I was on Rev server testing some new sets. I was using a corner set anti-rush with a LW, frosty, 3 knights, cleric, 2 scouts, beastrider and whisp. Bob The Beat was using a turt set with a furg, 2 scouts, GA, knight, dragon, mud, whisp and cleric.
Basically it came down to his furg, stone, 24HP dragon, 35HP scout and 50HP GA vs my 50HP knight, 18HP knight, frosty, 40HP scout, LW and cleric.
Bob made bushes everywhere with his furg blocking alot of my LOS. But I took out his furg as soon as I could without losing any of my pieces in the process. Next he got greedy and attacked my 18HP knight with his dragon. I then froze his dragon with my frosty and finished it off with my scout. This left Bob with only a 35HP scout, GA and stone vs my LW, cleric, 40HP scout and 50HP knight. After losing his dragon Bob left the Arena. Overall it was a fun game. But I hate al those dam shrubs!!

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Just played The Wizard on Rev server. It was a real close game through and through. Wiz was using an Anti-rush set with a LW, 2 scouts, Dragon, Mud, 2 knights, cleric and frosty.
Since he had a LW it was important for me to take out his scouts, fast, because they were his only range units and would have just used them to hide around the LW and pick me off I sacrificed my mud and whisp to tag his scouts. After his scouts were gone I polished off his frosty and cleric... in that order, sacrificing one of my scouts in the process. Wizard surrendered after I healed my 38HP dragon and 20HP scout. It was a close game but Wizard gave up his cleric in order to take out one of my scouts. I think that was his mistake.

Screen shot below:
http://www.teamiea.com/images/thewizard.jpg

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I don't know who this gray was. Anyway, they jumped me on GL and then told me to give up. I guess they were confident because they had two clerics and a BW setup.

screen shot 1 (the insult)
http://www.teamiea.com/images/giveup.jpg

screen shot 2 (the surrender)
It was my turn to move. I was going to put my 30HP whisp into position and poison his 6HP scout, knight, witch and pyro. Very bad news for him.
http://www.teamiea.com/images/giveup2.jpg

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Note: This is Punisher, not the ultra cool Punishment of TeamUSA.

So Punisher asked me for a game and I just played him. Freestyle of course as I am not a turt guy. It started out lame, luck was obviously on Punishers side. He front hit my scout, I then poisoned his Dragon, Knight and Scout. Problem is, I brain farted and put my whisp in range of his LW, so he zapped it. After that I healed so he couldn't kill my scout with his dragon. Next he front his my scout again. Two front hits, lame...
As the game progressed Punisher made a couple of bad moves and I was able to take advantage of them... pulling off a win.
Punisher had a anti-rush corner set with a LW, dragon, 2 scouts, frosty, cleric and three knights.

Screen shot here:
http://www.teamiea.com/images/punisher.jpg

[Abyssion]

Ew, you beat a IO member >_> I may have to chase you down for that.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Wow, incredible game. We started off with opp side anti-rush. We both had the same sets except Zeus had a 3 knightss and I had 2 knights and a Poison Whisp.
Tick for tack the entire game. At first Zeus had the upper hand. His positioning was better. He was really offensive. So I had to collapse my anti-rush set into a turt and play more defensive. I was able to protect my cleric this way which is the only thing that saved me. Fortunately I was able to pull off the win.

All I got to say is... let the screen shots below do the talking.

http://www.teamiea.com/images/zeus.jpg
http://www.teamiea.com/images/zeus1.jpg
http://www.teamiea.com/images/zeus2.jpg
http://www.teamiea.com/images/zeus3.jpg

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

opps, double post...

[FryLock]

Just noticed this thread...many (though admittedly not all) of the wins are against subpar players...or greys...

I never see this name on rev...I'd be most interested to see how you do against me. I'm not going to be on much in the future, but if you're on, look for zoolander...I'll give you something to write about. :cool:

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Well, I lost to Jerry_Smith. What can I say. I was not thinking and made two real bad moves. My first mistake gave up my scout. My second mistake gave up my second scout. Don't know why I didn't see those moves. But Jerry played well and made smart moves.

P.S. I played Jerry_Smith 3-4 weeks ago and his game was horrible. Since then he has joined Hells Angels. So I can only assume that Jerry has gotten REAL good over the last few weeks or someone else was playing his account.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I just played Centerbank on Rev. A new gold but obviously not new to the game. It was a totally lame game for me, very bad luck. Centerbank was using a rush, no cleric. I was using a pretty basic anti-rush. It basically came down to his knights vs my knights. All through the game he was side hitting my knights and connecting. Whenever I side hit his they ALWAYS blocked. If we had even blocking I would have had the game, easy. But hey, that's how the dice roll. A few unlucky blocks and the game will swing. Anyway, it was a good game and reminded me how much luck may play a part at times.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Well, first game I played against HAC he won, second game was a draw, I pulled off a win on the third game. My DSM got a lucky block when HAC front hit it with his scout, so it missed. Then I went to attack his last scout with my knight near end game. I front hit his scout and it connected, killing it. If not for my DSM that blocked and his scout that did not block HAC would have won by 3 pieces or so. But the two lucky breaks I got helped me to win by a dragon and 2 knights vs his 20HP GA. It's amazing how much luck will swing the outcome.

http://www.teamiea.com/images/hotactioncop3.jpg

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I played Silver Coast today on the AL Leader account. In his favor, Silver did state that he was trying a new set. It was a center-anti with a dragon, mud, 3 knights, 2 scouts, cleric and frosty??? ( I think)
My set was a dragonless center-anti. Cleric, frosty, GA, 2 scouts, mud, 3 knights, beastrider. The game was real close thorough and through. I think the thing that saved me was the extra unit. I had one more mobile unit than Silver Coast and it was a big help. Also, initial positioning was good for me so luck did play a role. Screen shot below.

http://www.teamiea.com/images/silvercoast.jpg

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I played si-leader earlier today, the leader account of Strategic Insomniacs.
It was a real close game. A lucky break near the end and one small mistake by me helped si-leader to pull off a win. It was down to his 40HP scout vs my 24HP dragon. I just finished off his 1HP knight with my dragon, My dragon had to wait 3 turns. He moved in his scout in to hit my dragon. My dragon had 53+ blocking points but his scout frontal hit it anyway, knocking the HP down to 12. I had to wait 3 turns, so he was able to get off one more shot from the side, hitting my dragon again. If my dragon would have blocked things may have been different. Also, his 1HP knight kinda screwed me too.... I should have finished it off earlier.

[bludhoundz]

I don't know.. it seems to me like he did the wrong thing actually. His best bet was to move, end, you both end, then hit you from the back. After that, if you blasted his scout down to 14, he could repeat the process and kill your dragon without risking anything at all. That is, unless your dragon was on the side of the board.

Either way, it sounds like it was a good game.

I also approve of this thread, since you're actually taking some time to write about your games instead of just posting screenshots (like some people think is interesting).

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I don't know.. it seems to me like he did the wrong thing actually. His best bet was to move, end, you both end, then hit you from the back. After that, if you blasted his scout down to 14, he could repeat the process and kill your dragon without risking anything at all. That is, unless your dragon was on the side of the board.

Either way, it sounds like it was a good game.

I also approve of this thread, since you're actually taking some time to write about your games instead of just posting screenshots (like some people think is interesting).

Thanks Bludhoundz, appreciate the kudos. I see what you are saying about his moving his scout. But my Dragon was on the side of the board so Dragons back was not exposed.

[dab00z]

I took a side shot not a frontal. Side shot was the best I could do.

edit: even if it had missed I would have won btw.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I took a side shot not a frontal. Side shot was the best I could do.

edit: even if it had missed I would have won btw.

I agree. But if I did not have to move my dragon to finish off the 1Hp knight then I could have finished off your scout and won or at least drew the game. I would have attacked your scout first with my 24HP dragon. Waited 3 turns, and attack your scout again. Unless you just kept pressing the timer which would have forced a draw while I waited for my dragons 3 turns to go by. Also, I made a mistake and miscalculated damage HP to your knight earlier

[dab00z]

I agree. But if I did not have to move my dragon to finish off the 1Hp knight then I could have finished off your scout and won or at least drew the game. I would have attacked your scout first with my 24HP dragon. Waited 3 turns, and attack your scout again.

umm...ok you attack my scout and i attack. If I can't get a back shot and i miss, you pass, i move my knight in, you pass, i attack from side on your now negative blocking dragon and i move near my knight. If you come kill either unit, you will be open to a backshot ending the game. Come on man.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

umm...ok you attack my scout and i attack. If I can't get a back shot and i miss, you pass, i move my knight in, you pass, i attack from side on your now negative blocking dragon and i move near my knight. If you come kill either unit, you will be open to a backshot ending the game. Come on man.

No, what I meant is that if I had wiped out your 1HP knight earlier in the game then I would have had it. I miscalculated a damage hit to it earlier which left it with 1HP, thus I was screwed.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Well, just got out of a good game with knighthawk, a decent gold. It was a close game from beginning to end but knighthawk pulled off a win. Towards the end knighthawk got a lucky break when his dragon blocked a side hit from my knight... when the dragon was at -40 blocking or so. This helped knighthawk to win by 2 knights. Knighthawk also got a break towards the end when my +4 blocking knight took a side hit and it connected, killing it. Thus knighthawk won by two knights. Overall knighthawk played well and it was tick for tack the entire game. Knighthawk seemed to focus more on positioning as part of the strategy where I was focusing on HP damage.

Hawk was using a center set. Dragon, mud, beast rider, 2 scouts 2 knights, DSM and cleric. I was using the same except 2 knights and a frosty. I had first move. So I attacked DSM with knight, it blocked, typical.... Hawk hit my dragon, mud and knight with DSM. I healed. Hawk then moved beastrider into my back field. I then hit DSM with knight. Then Hawk hit my frosty and cleric with beast. I finished off Hawks DSM. After that I took out Hawks scouts and cleric. The game moved along quick after that. If not for the DSM block that Hawk got in the beginning and the Dragon block towards the end the game would have been a tossup. But Hawk played well and deserved the win.

[Silver Coast]

Nice try Obi. I like how you post your battles even if you dont win them, I have great respect for that aspect of your character :)

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Nice try Obi. I like how you post your battles even if you dont win them, I have great respect for that aspect of your character :)

Thanks Silver.

[FryLock]

Towards the end knighthawk got a lucky break when his dragon blocked a side hit from my knight... when the dragon was at -40 blocking or so.

That is mathematically impossible, as far as the game is concerned. If a dragon has -40, then a side shot will have 100% chance of hitting. You must be mistaken.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

That is mathematically impossible, as far as the game is concerned. If a dragon has -40, then a side shot will have 100% chance of hitting. You must be mistaken.

Frylock, I thought so too and was really surprised to find out that is actually is possible. I did a test with a player in our clan. We brought a dragon down to -47 and checked it's blocking percentage by clicking the attack button. The percentage showed in big white letters. It was 87%. So a -47 Dragon is actually 87%. At least when we did our test it was.

[Silver Coast]

Lol, or you missed on a 100% :p This actually happened to me, when I was battling my friend Lone_Star, I attacked his knight's side and it said 100%...it blocked..Then again it was on Legends, not on any of the FPS Servers, but I doubt that the server would change the outcome of the attack..

[Dresicos]

99.5 Rounds to 100.
99.5 still able to block. :p

Happens to my DSM a lot :-D

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Well, I was testing a new set. Dragonless center set. I was waiting for a gray to jump me, instead High Heat did. So we locked horns and threw down :).
Heat had a typical rush type set. Dragon, frost, mud, cleric, 3 knights, 2 scouts.
High Heat is a tough cookie. He did not cut me any slack. I was on my toes the entire game. It came down to his 3 knights vs my 3 knights. I had 2 50HP's and a 33HP. Heat had 2 42HP's and a 50HP. All knights were default blocking. So we squared off and called it a draw. If the game continued chances are Heat would have won. But if I was to get a lucky block then things would be different. So instead of relying on luck we decided to call it a draw. A smart choice by any player in that situation.

[FryLock]

Frylock, I thought so too and was really surprised to find out that is actually is possible. I did a test with a player in our clan. We brought a dragon down to -47 and checked it's blocking percentage by clicking the attack button. The percentage showed in big white letters. It was 87%. So a -47 Dragon is actually 87%. At least when we did our test it was.

I guess they don't teach math over at TeamUSA headquarters...

Here's a s/s of a dragon at -37 blocking.
[img=http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/2909/dragonbeforesx2.th.jpg] (http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dragonbeforesx2.jpg)

And here is a s/s of the % to hit that dragon from the side.
[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8920/dragonafterew7.th.jpg] (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dragonafterew7.jpg)

Looks like the -37 dragon is 99% chance to hit. So the -47 dragon in your clanmate's example would at be at least 99%, and almost definitely 100% to hit. Meaning that either your battle report or your math / perception / vision, is inaccurate.

However, I see where you and your clanmate went wrong. (And here's where the math comes in!) A dragon has base 60 blocking. 60-47 is 13. You and your clanmate set up a dragon front hit, and you have apparently mistaken that test for a side hit. (100-13 = 87). Either that, or in your battle report, instead of blocking a side shot, your opponent's dragon blocked a front shot.

Life is in the details.

Happy to help. :cool:

[dab00z]

It came down to his 3 knights vs my 3 knights. I had 2 50HP's and a 33HP. Heat had 2 42HP's and a 50HP. All knights were default blocking. So we squared off and called it a draw. If the game continued chances are Heat would have won. But if I was to get a lucky block then things would be different. So instead of relying on luck we decided to call it a draw. A smart choice by any player in that situation.

No it's not. You needed to make 9 hits to beat him, and he needed to make 8 hits. I'm sure you understand that 42 HP is the same as 50 HP in this scenario. His advantage is actually quite large.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Kenobi View Post
It came down to his 3 knights vs my 3 knights. I had 2 50HP's and a 33HP. Heat had 2 42HP's and a 50HP. All knights were default blocking. So we squared off and called it a draw. If the game continued chances are Heat would have won. But if I was to get a lucky block then things would be different. So instead of relying on luck we decided to call it a draw. A smart choice by any player in that situation.
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No it's not. You needed to make 9 hits to beat him, and he needed to make 8 hits. I'm sure you understand that 42 HP is the same as 50 HP in this scenario. His advantage is actually quite large.

Am I missing something? This is what I said: "If the game continued chances are Heat would have won. But if I was to get a lucky block then things would be different. "
So basically you are agreeing with what I said?

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I guess they don't teach math over at TeamUSA headquarters...

Here's a s/s of a dragon at -37 blocking.
[img=http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/2909/dragonbeforesx2.th.jpg] (http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dragonbeforesx2.jpg)

And here is a s/s of the % to hit that dragon from the side.
[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8920/dragonafterew7.th.jpg] (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dragonafterew7.jpg)

Looks like the -37 dragon is 99% chance to hit. So the -47 dragon in your clanmate's example would at be at least 99%, and almost definitely 100% to hit. Meaning that either your battle report or your math / perception / vision, is inaccurate.

However, I see where you and your clanmate went wrong. (And here's where the math comes in!) A dragon has base 60 blocking. 60-47 is 13. You and your clanmate set up a dragon front hit, and you have apparently mistaken that test for a side hit. (100-13 = 87). Either that, or in your battle report, instead of blocking a side shot, your opponent's dragon blocked a front shot.

Life is in the details.

Happy to help. :cool:

Fry, thanks for the screen shots. But, the screen shots you provided only help to prove that the blocking system on TAO is complex and many factors influence it. For instance, number of turns, whether hits were back to back, etc...
A Dragon with -59 blocking points can be 1% blocking or 100%. So your statement that Dragon with -37 blocking points being near 100% is totally wrong. Let my screen shots below do the talking.



Dragon with 0 blocking points and 80% chance of block
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragon0.JPG
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragon0b.JPG


Dragon with -52 blocking points and 0% chance of block
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragonminus52.JPG
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragonminus52b.JPG


Dragon with +32 blocking points and 64% chance of block
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragonplus32.JPG
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragonplus32b.JPG


THE MOST INTERESTING FOR LAST:

Dragon with +59 blocking points and 1% chance of block
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragonplus59.JPG
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragonplus59b.JPG


Dragon with +59 blocking points and 100% chance of block.
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragonplus59c.JPG
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragonplus59d.JPG


So you see, the math here at TeamUSA is just fine. In fact, our research is even better. Bottom line is that the blocking points in no way indicate the chance of a hit or miss. You must target the piece everytime to find out the blocking percent because the TAO blocking point system is totally confusing. Do not rely on the blocking points.

P.S. I just took your cool glasses from you and am using them now...:cool: :cool: Now I have two pairs of shades.....

[FryLock]

Dragon with 0 blocking points and 80% chance of block
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragon0.JPG
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragon0b.JPG


Dragon with -52 blocking points and 0% chance of block
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragonminus52.JPG
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragonminus52b.JPG


Dragon with +32 blocking points and 64% chance of block
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragonplus32.JPG
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragonplus32b.JPG

THE MOST INTERESTING FOR LAST:

Dragon with +59 blocking points and 1% chance of block
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragonplus59.JPG
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragonplus59b.JPG


Dragon with +59 blocking points and 100% chance of block.
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragonplus59c.JPG
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dragonplus59d.JPG


Sorry dude, anyone who reads that is going to be confused. You have managed to confuse "% to hit" with "% to block."

In addition, your s/s are setups, for the reasons listed below. Simply put, there is no way that there is a 100% chance to hit a dragon with a +59 modifier...unless it's from the back.

Indeed, in your last "example", the before shot clearly shows the plus 59, but in the 100% to hit shot, your (brown) scout has moved from his previous position on the right front line to a position that would put him in a perfect spot to take a back shot at the +59 dragon...making it a 100% to hit.

In addition, to get the s/s of your 0% chance to hit the -52 dragon, all you'd need to do is target the dragon with the brown scout on the left. If you target the dragon, the knight will get in the way of the arrow, and the % to hit the dragon will of course be 0%. To hit it with that scout, you'd need to aim 1 past the dragon.

Don't try and fool me, kiddo.

But I am flattered that you took the time to make some bogus examples, just to contradict me. Thanks!

Too bad it didn't work. Guess the TeamUSA "research" process needs some refinement... :dry:

-EDIT- after looking closely and trying something myself, I can definitively state that the two examples I have mentioned here are setups. Look closely at them, and look at the scouts I am talking about. Compare those scouts' appearances to the other brown scout in each s/s. Because the scouts I mentioned are selected, they appear lighter (brighter?) than the non-selected scout. This is because TAO makes the selected unit "glow" or "flash" slightly. Looks like good ol' Obi Wan either has no concept whatsoever of line of sight (hard to believe, since he's mentioned it in previous reports...), or he chose those scouts in these examples on purpose, to deliver misleading data.

So...really. Fake setups? Just to dispute my point? That's lame. I've quoted your "examples" here, just so you can't go back and change'em.

[KBHoleN1]

Bottom line is that the blocking points in no way indicate the chance of a hit or miss. You must target the piece everytime to find out the blocking percent because the TAO blocking point system is totally confusing. Do not rely on the blocking points.
The blocking system is designed so that the blocking points reflect the chance to hit or miss. If a certain number of turns have passed, or consecutive shots have been made (I'll say this slow so you understand) THE ... BLOCKING ... POINTS ... CHANGE. Those changes reflect the changes in the modifier, which is the only factor that affects the blocking.

A positive modifier gives a unit a higher chance to block, and the change in percentage is a direct reflection of the change in the modifier (the blocking points).

As someone else pointed out, 100% does not mean it will always hit, because of rounding. That doesn't mean the blocking system is wrong, or that "outside" factors operate on it. The percentage to hit is accurate to it's significant digit (which is the whole number). There could still be a chance to block, however minute.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Sorry dude, anyone who reads that is going to be confused. You have managed to confuse "% to hit" with "% to block."

In addition, your s/s are setups, for the reasons listed below. Simply put, there is no way that there is a 100% chance to hit a dragon with a +59 modifier...unless it's from the back.

Indeed, in your last "example", the before shot clearly shows the plus 59, but in the 100% to hit shot, your (brown) scout has moved from his previous position on the right front line to a position that would put him in a perfect spot to take a back shot at the +59 dragon...making it a 100% to hit.

In addition, to get the s/s of your 0% chance to hit the -52 dragon, all you'd need to do is target the dragon with the brown scout on the left. If you target the dragon, the knight will get in the way of the arrow, and the % to hit the dragon will of course be 0%. To hit it with that scout, you'd need to aim 1 past the dragon.

Don't try and fool me, kiddo.

But I am flattered that you took the time to make some bogus examples, just to contradict me. Thanks!

Too bad it didn't work. Guess the TeamUSA "research" process needs some refinement... :dry:

-EDIT- after looking closely and trying something myself, I can definitively state that the two examples I have mentioned here are setups. Look closely at them, and look at the scouts I am talking about. Compare those scouts' appearances to the other brown scout in each s/s. Because the scouts I mentioned are selected, they appear lighter (brighter?) than the non-selected scout. This is because TAO makes the selected unit "glow" or "flash" slightly. Looks like good ol' Obi Wan either has no concept whatsoever of line of sight (hard to believe, since he's mentioned it in previous reports...), or he chose those scouts in these examples on purpose, to deliver misleading data.

So...really. Fake setups? Just to dispute my point? That's lame. I've quoted your "examples" here, just so you can't go back and change'em.


Fry, I posted my response to this under the General Strategy thread. This is my battle report thread.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

The blocking system is designed so that the blocking points reflect the chance to hit or miss. If a certain number of turns have passed, or consecutive shots have been made (I'll say this slow so you understand) THE ... BLOCKING ... POINTS ... CHANGE. Those changes reflect the changes in the modifier, which is the only factor that affects the blocking.

A positive modifier gives a unit a higher chance to block, and the change in percentage is a direct reflection of the change in the modifier (the blocking points).

As someone else pointed out, 100% does not mean it will always hit, because of rounding. That doesn't mean the blocking system is wrong, or that "outside" factors operate on it. The percentage to hit is accurate to it's significant digit (which is the whole number). There could still be a chance to block, however minute.

KbHole, I am posting my response under the General Strategy forum

[FryLock]

Least we got that cleared up.

So, for the battle reports...here's one.

[img=http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/360/obipb1.th.jpg] (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=obipb1.jpg)

I actually have my doubts as to whether this guy actually is OWK, but whatever. If it isn't him, then at least now OWK knows that someone's masquerading as him.

If it IS OWK, then this was an awfully weak performance. Not much to say about the opponent here, whoever he is, except that he got outmaneuvered badly. I'm orange. The other guy's dragon is about to bite it and the mud is none too healthy either.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Least we got that cleared up.

So, for the battle reports...here's one.

[img=http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/360/obipb1.th.jpg] (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=obipb1.jpg)

I actually have my doubts as to whether this guy actually is OWK, but whatever. If it isn't him, then at least now OWK knows that someone's masquerading as him.

If it IS OWK, then this was an awfully weak performance. Not much to say about the opponent here, whoever he is, except that he got outmaneuvered badly. I'm orange. The other guy's dragon is about to bite it and the mud is none too healthy either.

Nice one Fry.
Um, The Wizard said "I am Obi" in the screen shoot... not me at all. But I do know The Wizard. He is TeamUSA. I see his mistake already. From the s/s it is obvious that he over extended himself. This usually happens when players get too aggressive with too few pieces. Something I've learned the hard way after a great many loses. He should have kept his troops together little more. Notice how you (Orange) have a tighter formation, less spread.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Well, Syko99 asked me in the lobby today to test a set with him. I thought it was a DSM bomb so I was reluctant. Syko99 was real coy about what it was. But I played him anyways. After the game started he said he was Dresicos.

Sure enough, he had a DSM, Dragon, 3 knights, 2 scouts, cleric and GA. I was using my standard Dragonless center semi-rush. I had first move. So I used knight to attack DSM. Before I attacked I bet Dres $100 that the DSM would block.... it did, as usual. I swear, the DSM's and Pyros block more than 33% from the front. I'd say they block 80% of the time from the front if they are attacked on first move. Totally pisses me off.
Anyway, after the block he hit my knight, GA and Scout. Next I moved my GA and hit his cleric. Dres finished off my first scout with his dragon. Then I healed, then he healed, then I finished off his DSM. He then hit my cleric. Then I finished off his cleric. Then he finished off my cleric. After that it was tick for tack until it came down to his 40HP GA vs my 33HP knight.

I would have won by 2 pieces but his knight screwed it up for me. It was at +40-50 blocking points (I can't remember)... But I side hit it with my 2HP scout. I wanted his knight to spin and block so I could finish it off with my 50HP knight. But my scout hit, making his 16HP knight like +163. We both laughed. Then he used his +150ish knight to hit my 50HP knight, bringing it down to 33HP. I then finished off his knight with my 33HP knight. After that he hit my 2HP scout with his GA. Making the game his 40HP GA vs my 33HP knight.

Screen Shot
http://www.teamiea.com/images/dresicos.JPG

[Dresicos]

There is no way I couldn't of made it was more obvious that I was using DSM lol.

gg non the less but I did seem like your set was out to destroy mine. Counter eh?

Btw I didn't hit your Knight, scout and GA. Only Knight and scout.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

There is no way I couldn't of made it was more obvious that I was using DSM lol.

gg non the less but I did seem like your set was out to destroy mine. Counter eh?

Yeah, I think you had me earlier in the game. But like you said, it was 2am for you, so you made a few mistakes that allowed me to pull off a win.

[Dresicos]

Um I think the DT health thing was about the worst I could of made lol

But as I said non the less it was good.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Well, usually I lose to Berserker3. But the last I played him was like 1 month ago. From what I remember he is a decent player. From the beginning of the game he had the advantage. He was using a basic gold rush set but decided to put a LW in the middle of the board. Berserker3 was using a dragon, LW, 2 scouts, frosty, cleric, and 3 knights.
He had first move. First thing he did was hit my mud. After that I froze his dragon forcing him to move in his scout. Once he did that his scout was history and I did not lose my frosty until 3-4 turns later. This allowed me to keep my 2 scouts alive for end game which really helped since he had a LW.

It came down to his LW and his 33HP knight vs my 29HP dragon, 50HP knight and 40HP scout. After my dragon blocked a frontal from his 33HP knight he surrendered.

During the game I did burn a few turns to help gain better position. That saved me. Learning when to position a piece compared to attacking with another piece is something that really helps.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I just saw NiborSumac sitting on a board waiting for a game, so I joined. He had a basic anti-rush set. Dragon, 2 scouts, frosty, cleric, 3 knights, mud. We were same side and his cleric was in immediate danger. I had first move so I passed. Then Nibor moved his cleric. I followed up and hit his cleric with my one of my scouts. After that the game moved along pretty fast. First thing I did was take out his cleric, followed by one of his scouts. I managed to keep my cleric alive and forced Nibor to burn up turns by freezing his Dragon with my frosty. This also forced him to move his last scout into range to hit my frosty. Once he did that I was able to put the hurt on his last scout. It came down to his 50HP Knight and 60HP mud vs my 3 knights (2 at 50HP and 1 at 33HP). I moved in and hit his Mud. After that he surrendered. The game was not that intense. Maybe I was just tired or something.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Well, I just lost against Abominable Snowman/Phoenixofflames. It was a crappy game all the way around. I was half drunk on Early Times whiskey too....

Anyway, AS had a DSM, Dragon, Cleric, 2 scouts, Mud, Frost and 2 knights. I used a center Anti, no frost but with a GA. AS did not play like Punishment or Silver Coast/Arena but he played ok. He also had some serious luck too. My +50ish blocking knights taking side shots from his... lame. Then AS frontal hits one of my Knights at default blocking, lame. All of his side shots connected to me. All of my side shots to him missed. Oh well. That's how it goes. He even admited to 3 very lucky blocks/hits on his part. Blah. Anyway, so it goes.
It came down to his 33HP knight, 50HP knight and 40HP frosty vs my 68 HP dragon. God, I hate DSM's and frontal hits on knights that don't block..

[Justin Dishon]

Well, I just lost against Abominable Snowman/Phoenixofflames. It was a crappy game all the way around. I was half drunk on Early Times whiskey too....

Anyway, AS had a DSM, Dragon, Cleric, 2 scouts, Mud, Frost and 2 knights. I used a center Anti, no frost but with a GA. AS did not play like Punishment or Silver Coast/Arena but he played ok. He also had some serious luck too. My +50ish blocking knights taking side shots from his... lame. Then AS frontal hits one of my Knights at default blocking, lame. All of his side shots connected to me. All of my side shots to him missed. Oh well. That's how it goes. He even admited to 3 very lucky blocks/hits on his part. Blah. Anyway, so it goes.
It came down to his 33HP knight, 50HP knight and 40HP frosty vs my 68 HP dragon. God, I hate DSM's and frontal hits on knights that don't block..

Dude is there any need for so many double and triple posts? My eyes hurt just trying to read all the stuff you post. BTW not trying to be mean.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Dude is there any need for so many double and triple posts? My eyes hurt just trying to read all the stuff you post. BTW not trying to be mean.

Dude, this is my battle report thread. That means most of the posts will be mine. Read the titles. I report every battle. Which means alot of multiple posts.

[Justin Dishon]

Dude, this is my battle report thread. That means most of the posts will be mine. Read the titles. I report every battle. Which means alot of multiple posts.

No one cares about your battle reports so keep them to yourself. If you wish to journal to yourself please keep it to your self that includes your advice in general. What you write should be considered spam.

[steve12]

I suggest editting your first post with your battle reports, and waiting to see if other people have the care to talk about them.

[phoenixofflames]

I used a center Anti,

AS did not play like Punishment or Silver Coast/Arena but he played ok.


1. you center frontlined not antied.

2. i didnt play like pun or arena because last time i beat you by like 7 so i didnt think you would be that great. if you want me to play like pun or arena next time i'll do that, i know i can because ive beaten both pun and arena :/

mk i'm done.

[Memory]

1. you center frontlined not antied.

2. i didnt play like pun or arena because last time i beat you by like 7 so i didnt think you would be that great. if you want me to play like pun or arena next time i'll do that, i know i can because ive beaten both pun and arena :/

mk i'm done.

Pwned :*dwarf:

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Look, any of you want to throw down with me, see me on the battle field. I will write a battle report about our game. You better pray to god you win too because if you don't you are gonna look REAL stupid... talkin all big and stuff like you guys PWN.... whatever.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Just had a game with Guitar. It was aiight, nothing too special. I was using a Dragonless center set. He won by 4 pieces. Luck was not on my side either. I got no blocks. Nada. But Guitar played well and did make smart moves. I admit that I wasted some moves. I tried to hurry the game along and rushed things. In the end it's my fault I lost. Not luck.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Totally lame luck lost me this game... my luck stinks today. Hells Guitar admitted that luck won the game for him. All default hits too, no +/- blocking points. He got like 6 side hits on my knights and a frontal hit on my scout. Then his scouts blocked two side hits from me. Crazy luck. Anyway, I was using another Dragonless center set. I was able to take out his Cleric and mud pretty quick. It looked like I had the game. In the end it came down to his 12HP dragon at +12 blocking points and his 3 knights vs my 3 knights, 30HP scout and 40HP scout. All at default blocking. I moved in to side hit his Dragon and it blocked. After that the luck went downhill fast for me. He connected a bunch of side shots to my knights, took out my scout and keep up the lucky blocks. It is frustrating to get owned by luck, but that is the game sometimes.

[ChainHeart]

hm...want a game with u sometimes...

in rev...

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

hm...want a game with u sometimes...

in rev...

Chain, I'll try to get a game wit chu sometime soon. Login to GL to find me and ask me to go to rev.