Electric Guitar

[cs_zero]

Well, for a while now have been wanting to learn how to play the guitar, and i figured that if i don't do it now, i might now have a chance to for some time.

So, i was wondering if any of you have any suggestions for a good "starter" guitar to learn with.

Thanks.

[Tama Drummer]

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[AKGhostGunn3r]

That was my first guitar. Awesome, just awesome.

[sayter]

depends on what you like in a guitar. Most folks go the Fender route for a first guitar, since many other brands are a bit more cost-prohibitive. You can get a decent electric for a few hundred bucks (i woudlnt spend less than 500$ if you want a decent guitar) and a good, small amp for 100$ or so. Expect to pay no less than 600$ if you want a good start up axe and amp. Anything less and you are, essentially, wasting your money.

Best idea is to go to a music store, and try several guitars until you find one that "fits" you.

[Dresicos]

Play Bass first.

[***Duo***]

I personally began with an acoustic, just to get things down in that region. (They are generally larger and a little harder to play than electrics.)
My first electric however, was a Jackson. Not the best brand, but a good starting guitar. (Very cost-efficient as well.)


-Duo

[paulk6]

My first electric was a squire strat, which are cheap, and pretty good for the price. I think they're usually somewhere around $200-$300. Or you could get a Epiphone Les Paul Jr. Mine was $300 and definitely worth the money. It's better for a punk sound. Both are pretty nice. Good luck with learning

[AlabamaBoy]

Starting on electric is for noobs.

I recomend an Alverez acoustic.

[pils]

Play Bass first.

bass sucks..
to easy.

What kind of price range are you looking for?

[gryph89]

TeleCaster

[pils]

TeleCaster

Hahahah
I get a kick outa those guitars... Thats like the official Ska guitar (not that they can't be used for other kinds of music or w/e)

[gryph89]

Hahahah
I get a kick outa those guitars... Thats like the official Ska guitar (not that they can't be used for other kinds of music or w/e)

lol, I know.

[pils]

Get a Gibson SG...
Those are nice guitars...

[Tama Drummer]

bass sucks..
to easy.

I'd rather learn bass than guitar. It's only easy if you make it easy and play songs from bands with shitty bass players. Then again, if I learned guitar/bass, I'd probably never play other people's songs.

[pils]

lol
Well first off...

Bass *is* easy... Seriously, theres not much thats difficult about bass, even if you play it fast as hell, or try to play slap bass... Its all easier then guitar, and if you can play guitar well bass comes naturally... Where as its not quite the same the other way around...

And secondly, to think that you can just up and write your own music just proves how little you really know about music... Its not as easy as you may think. Before you can write your own stuff you first have to learn how to play the instrument...
Can you guess a good way of learning things like chords, scales, arpeggios, picking techniques, and keys?
HMMM playing other people's songs....

[Tama Drummer]

lol
Well first off...

Bass *is* easy... Seriously, theres not much thats difficult about bass, even if you play it fast as hell, or try to play slap bass... Its all easier then guitar, and if you can play guitar well bass comes naturally... Where as its not quite the same the other way around...

And secondly, to think that you can just up and write your own music just proves how little you really know about music... Its not as easy as you may think. Before you can write your own stuff you first have to learn how to play the instrument...
Can you guess a good way of learning things like chords, scales, arpeggios, picking techniques, and keys?
HMMM playing other people's songs....


Again, it's only easy if you make it easy. Drumming can also be incredibly easy, if you play incredibly easy things.

How does thinking I can "just up and write" my own music prove what I know about music? Besides, I never said I could just sit down and write a song. I just said I wouldn't be interested in playing other people's songs. In my five years of drumming, I've learned to play 3 songs other drummers played, only because my band covered two of them. I prefer to just jam on my own. And if I was capable of playing guitar/bass/keyboard (keyboard is what I'm looking to start), I would do the same. Just jam.

Lastly, I never even said playing other people's songs is bad... all I said was I wouldn't. So you're little speach on it really wasn't needed.

[pils]

Again, it's only easy if you make it easy. Drumming can also be incredibly easy, if you play incredibly easy things.

How does thinking I can "just up and write" my own music prove what I know about music? Besides, I never said I could just sit down and write a song. I just said I wouldn't be interested in playing other people's songs. In my five years of drumming, I've learned to play 3 songs other drummers played, only because my band covered two of them. I prefer to just jam on my own. And if I was capable of playing guitar/bass/keyboard (keyboard is what I'm looking to start), I would do the same. Just jam.

Lastly, I never even said playing other people's songs is bad... all I said was I wouldn't. So you're little speach on it really wasn't needed.

drums aren't the same as guitar, really... You can't compare them the way you are trying to.
And again, bass is easy.... Its not a matter of making it easy or hard for yourself, and "only playing easy things." Take it from a person who knows how to play both, bass is just easy...

[Tama Drummer]

drums aren't the same as guitar, really... You can't compare them the way you are trying to.
And again, bass is easy.... Its not a matter of making it easy or hard for yourself, and "only playing easy things." Take it from a person who knows how to play both, bass is just easy...

I'm not comparing guitar to drums. I was comparing how I approach drums, to how I would probably approach guitar/bass.


So what is it that makes bass easier than guitar. If you played note for note on bass what you play on guitar, it'd be easier on the bass?

[Ignition]

I know my brother has some pretty intense guitar. He's pretty damn good. I could raid his room and see what he has?

[pils]

not necessarily, but you usually can't play note for note on bass because usually base has 4 strings...
And thats what I'm talking about, 6 string bass' are gross and dont count in my book. :p
Also there are certain things that you just can't play on base... Like most chords for example.

And yeah thats what I mean. Essentially you can't approach guitar the same way you approach drums because drums are kind of like, no offense, you hit it with a stick it makes a sound and then you hit something else with a stick and it makes a different sound. In the average drum set I'd say theres about 20 or so core sounds, that could be altered or w/e like blast beats, or double bass, or triplets and just perfected to your liking.

Where as with guitar there are usually 22 frets, with 6 strings.
There are 100s if not 1000s of ways to play 3 or more strings together in certain types of chords, and just as many ways to hit notes individually in certain techniques or w/e

Now I'm not saying one is harder or better than the other. But what I am saying is with drums you can mess around with different styles or w/e and come up with some cool drumming stuff.

But with guitar it pretty much takes a musical genius to come up with chords or picking exercises like sweep picking on your own...
The best way to learn would be through practice, whether it be through other people's songs or through something teaching you how to play them...

Granted you could easily learn a few chords and learn some variations of them and write your own stuff.... You wouldn't be very good, and you wouldn't get much better.

[Tama Drummer]

not necessarily, but you usually can't play note for note on bass because usually base has 4 strings...
And thats what I'm talking about, 6 string bass' are gross and dont count in my book. :p

So, it DOES depend on what you play. Yes, maybe what you play and are interested in is easy on bass. That doesn't mean bass is easier than guitar. It's easy if you make it easy.


As for the rest of your post, I really don't see your point of all that. All I said was that I am not interested in playing other people's songs. I'd prefer to sit and play on my own. Whether I'd be any good or not has nothing to do with it. And it doesn't take a "musical genious" to write something on guitar. I have plenty of song ideas. When I drum, I often drum to "songs" I make up and have playing along in my head. If I had the skills to transfer that to guitar, I could write my own music.

[pils]

i never said it takes a musical "genious" to write music... But it would to come up with techniques like sweep picking or certain techniques like that, where as a good way to learn them is to play other peoples songs.

And meh, you really don't know what your talking about when it comes to the ease of certain instruments, the things and techniques that make bass what it is, and make bass different then guitar are for the most part easier then the things that make guitar what it is.
Techniques like slap base are unique to bass, and not really doable on guitar...
Where as barre chords are unique to guitar, and wouldn't sound good on base.
Really ask anyone you know that has played both... Guitar is harder to master than bass.

[Tama Drummer]

Really ask anyone you know that has played both... Guitar is harder to master than bass.

If I ask people that play guitar cause they're cool, then yes, they'll tell me that. But 90% of musicians I've talked to will tell you neither is harder, and the fact that you try to say bass is esier makes me think you're the "cause they're cool" guitar player. Hell, in a 2 second google search, that's what I got.
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-234867.html

Like I've been saying, it's entirely a matter of what you play. If you make it easy, it'll be easy.

[pils]

Meh I have yet to come across anything on bass that is harder than some of the things that I have mastered on guitar.
So i will stick with the opinion that guitar is harder.

And would be a better choice to play first, rather than bass because bass becomes second nature after you have played guitar for a while. Where as it is not the same if you learn bass first.

[Tama Drummer]

Meh I have yet to come across anything on bass that is harder than some of the things that I have mastered on guitar.
So i will stick with the opinion that guitar is harder.

And would be a better choice to play first, rather than bass because bass becomes second nature after you have played guitar for a while. Where as it is not the same if you learn bass first.

Stop looking. Start creating.
Again, it's easy if you make it easy. Be innovative. Create something new. Bass can and is just as "hard" as bass. It's just a matter of what you do with it.

But main reason I said I'd personally choose bass first, is cause bass goes hand and hand with drums. :D I love jamming with my bass player more than my guitarist. Of course, I like playing actual songs better with my guitarist.

[zig]

I started on Acoustic, played that for 5 years with lessons, and then switched to Electric until now. Some guitar brands to certain guitars designed for beginners, but usually the quality isn't as good as the bigger brands. I heard Fender and Yamaha are quite good for starting, since my friends started with those.

[Scorpionz]

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