A Few Rushes

[Forest_Archer]

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4629/picture3pm5.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/148/picture4em9.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/5919/picture5oa3.png (http://imageshack.us)

[Geoffrey]

First set would probably get owned by a LW anti rush on the wisp side.

Second one looks very good.

Third one of my LW anti's with a LW in front row column where knight next dsm is would rip that set apart.

[*Sanosuke*]

the second one is my fave cause of dual BRs.

[Hatchet Warrior]

Those a very nice sets F_A, but they do have flaws that are a risk, but can be taken if yuo know you can back it up after losing dsm or wisp.

The first one has great positioning, but I would put a unit infront of cleric.

The second one looks great, but a one sided rush might give you a problem.

The third one will be an unexpected one these days, I use a set similiar to it at times. The only problem would be a same side to your dsm wisp + Lw.

[steve12]

Hm... well, in the first one your Cleric is wide open for a Dragon to smash. And the other two I find average... the second one being the best though. I don't know, I look for rushes that are very versatile against any form, hence the rush I use is more capable of fighting any form without being at a severe disadvantage. One thing I can point out regarding this is I don't put units that can be killed first turn (DSM, Pyros, or Wisp) in a possible target range of an LW.

However, for sole rushing, I can see your forms working very well. Anti-rushes would have an edge, of coarse. Which, again, is why I try to use a more versatile form to prevent an insta-loss.

[Hatchet Warrior]

That's because you suck and can't stick it out like the rest of us. :p

[Forest_Archer]

Okay, guys, I know about the DT factor.

But not many people use LW's and the chances aren't too great of best positioning. Thanks for the comments. :p

[steve12]

-_-... Woooooow. Nice one.... :(

[I BEAT MATHEWS]

I like how Taco was trying to show people his no SG form
And Nobody wanted to see it

[FryLock]

The 3rd one looks familiar...except for the dragon placement, that's the exact same set that rantzu and I whipped up 2 or 3 years back. :cool: Was great back then, now, with the modifications to the gameplay, probably doesn't work as well.

[Forest_Archer]

Yeah, I pretty much copied it from you guys :p

You could own me everytime. Gt's!

[TheSilverRider]

I have never had success with a grey rush. Is there such a thing? :p

[I BEAT MATHEWS]

Impossible is Nothing..

[Forest_Archer]

As a matter of fact, I just lost against a 900 something on Banff using my grey rush, which makes it like 35-1 or something. I'll post it in just a sec. It's in another thread too, but it's just so incredibly good.

EDIT: http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2623/picture6om2.png (http://imageshack.us)

[TheSilverRider]

Is it dropless or not?

[Forest_Archer]

Look at the pic.

[TheSilverRider]

Wow, what about a center LW? That would KILL your witch.

[Forest_Archer]

Okay, 35-1, do you think that even did anything? Rush in with knights and the assassin.

[TheSilverRider]

Ok, im trying it out now.

[-57-]

Yea, there are a few good grey rushes out there, I've been using them a lot latley (as in last 6 months) and I have found a few good ones

Here are my two favorites:

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/5190/rushsi7.png
Easily my most used and favorite, can't really take credit for this one ;)

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8673/rush1ma3.png
This one is a bit new and isn't as proven but it does VERY well opp sides (actually better then same I think) because you flank the hell out of them, but it works well same sides too I learned last night when I played my first game of it same sides and beat a very good 1200+

It also works on a center too... I happened to beat Match Strike with it >_> but yes, I had luck, lots of it... but still, I think that proves this form :p

[TheSilverRider]

As of right now i am 2-0 with FA's setup. Ill use that until i lose and then ill go to one of 57's setups ;)

[Forest_Archer]

-57-, your rushes just don't look offensive enough to be called rushes or work like rushes.

[-57-]

-57-, your rushes just don't look offensive enough to be called rushes or work like rushes.

Yeah, but if you asked for a turt game and brought that somone would call it a rush... infact, that kind of happened last night >_>

Anyways, if you think that the first is not an effective rush, you are sadly mistaken ;)

[Forest_Archer]

I'm sure that the first one can work just based on skilll, but it's not nearly as effective as my form. I've tried forms like yours. They can't attack inside a base as quickly.

[-57-]

I'm sure that the first one can work just based on skilll, but it's not nearly as effective as my form. I've tried forms like yours. They can't attack inside a base as quickly.

That's not what KAP thinks/would say :p

But I do agree, it takes a few games to get the knack of it, but once you have it, you can be in a turt in a matter of 2 or 3 turns, offen depending on the opponents skill/ their form

[Match Strike]

It also works on a center too... I happened to beat Match Strike with it >_> but yes, I had luck, lots of it... but still, I think that proves this form :p

Your knight is a ninja :mad:

I like the form though. At least, in opposite sides I think it could be pretty fun to use.

[The Wild]

Wow, i never knew you were "It's Me, Bi†ches!" Lol, you should post that grey rush you used to own me. :P

[FryLock]

F_A, I just don't understand your grey rush. You must use it effectively, but it seems to me that if the opponent uses a LW in one of the common places (center, or 2 squares from the side), he will get a mage for nothing. That's not exactly a sacrifice...it's just a loss.

Can you explain more about how it works?

[TheSilverRider]

F_A, I just don't understand your grey rush. You must use it effectively, but it seems to me that if the opponent uses a LW in one of the common places (center, or 2 squares from the side), he will get a mage for nothing. That's not exactly a sacrifice...it's just a loss.

Can you explain more about how it works?

After using F_A's grey rush for a while i have a really good record with it. If i am not mistaken, the witch is there so that on a default set or center sets, you can get the cleric first or second turn. This does pose a problem if your opponent has a center LW or maybe a little of center LW. I found that it really doesnt happen all that often, but it does happen.

[phoenixofflames]

As a matter of fact, I just lost against a 900 something on Banff using my grey rush, which makes it like 35-1 or something. I'll post it in just a sec. It's in another thread too, but it's just so incredibly good.



Again, as i posted last time you posted that thread, i beat that set...

[Legendkiller™]

Eh nice sets expect I'd probably never use a DSM that's just me. I really like the first one that you made, it's solid and I think that it could easily destroy an opponent using a rush also :). I'm not too fond of the other sets but I think they could work too. Just my opinion.