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OpixMK
09-06-2007, 06:43 PM
I'm not an expert at math, and I'm taking advanced analysis II. Could someone please help me?
How do you find the inverse function of f(x) = x/(x-2)
I really appreciate any help. Thanks.
TTitan44
09-06-2007, 06:44 PM
I'm a senior in high school and I'm taking Algebra II Academic.
kingedward
09-06-2007, 06:51 PM
Im a sophomore and Im taking advanced algebra II and trig. :bigsmile:
zzzaacckk
09-06-2007, 07:00 PM
to find the inverse, just remember that f(x) is another way of saying y, so switch your ys with your x's so the eq become: x = y/(y-2) and resolve for y.
bludhoundz
09-06-2007, 07:03 PM
I'm not an expert at math, and I'm taking advanced analysis II. Could someone please help me?
How do you find the inverse function of f(x) = x/(x-2)
I really appreciate any help. Thanks.
To invert a function, switch y with x, and then rearrange.
In this case, since you have multiple x's, it won't work (or at least I haven't done it in long enough to make that work). I don't remember another way to work it out algebraically.
Graphically, you can just flip the graph over the y = x line and try to figure out the equation for that relation.
zack - you can't simplify that. It normally works, but when you have 2 y's in the equation, it's not possible to simplify it down to one (or at least my brief try didn't work out very well).
kingedward
09-06-2007, 07:09 PM
You could get rid of the fraction by multiplying...you would get x = y squared - 2y.
Dunno if that helps, Ive never done inverse functions.
bludhoundz
09-06-2007, 08:14 PM
Nah, you have to completely isolate y.
I looked up how to do it quickly, and tried their method, but it doesn't work for this function.
HorNeT
09-06-2007, 08:42 PM
Normally you don't have two of the same variables in a problem like this.
Maverik07
09-07-2007, 12:38 AM
Graph it in the x direction, then just flip it around into the y direction.
I forget how to really do it, but that'll get you the answer.
TeXaS LoNgHoRnS
09-07-2007, 12:59 AM
To invert a function, switch y with x, and then rearrange.
In this case, since you have multiple x's, it won't work (or at least I haven't done it in long enough to make that work). I don't remember another way to work it out algebraically.
Graphically, you can just flip the graph over the y = x line and try to figure out the equation for that relation.
zack - you can't simplify that. It normally works, but when you have 2 y's in the equation, it's not possible to simplify it down to one (or at least my brief try didn't work out very well).
f(x) = ax + b
f(x) = x2 , f '(x) = 2 x
f(x) = x2
f(x) = √x
f(x) = xn
[f(x) + g(x)]' = f '(x) + g'(x)
[f(x) · g(x)]' = f '(x) · g(x) + f(x) · g'(x)
These are some i have done, tho i live in Denmark, so i don't know how to explain. Therefor i thought maybe i just show you mine.
:huh::confused:
What the hell...
Im still in algebra 2...damn smart people lol
Maverik07
09-07-2007, 01:07 AM
In Europe, the learning curve for math is much higher than here. Hes doing derivatives, thats calc AB stuff
You could make it into a vector function and reflect that over <1,1>, but that's probably making things unnecessarily complicated.
Lets see here..
f(x) = x/(x-2)
x = f(x)'/(f(x)' - 2) [like substituting y for x, except I'm using f(x)']
x*f(x)' - 2x = f(x)' [multiply both sides by f(x)']
x*f(x)' -f(x)' = 2x [subtract f(x)' from both sides; add 2x to both sides]
f(x)'*(x-1) = 2x [factored out a f(x)' term from the left side]
f(x)' = 2x/(x-1) [divided both sides by (x-1)]
Thus the inverse of f(x) = x/(x-2) is f(x)' = 2x/(x-1).
Geoffrey
09-07-2007, 01:24 AM
I did derivatives in year 10 here...
Maverik07
09-07-2007, 01:26 AM
Exactly, US has different math standards for some reason, i did derivatives as a junior, but im in higher math levels than most kids. Most kids dont do derivatives until senior year or college, in US.
/me is learning non-Euclidean math.
And it is confusing as hell.
bludhoundz
09-07-2007, 05:32 AM
You could make it into a vector function and reflect that over <1,1>, but that's probably making things unnecessarily complicated.
Lets see here..
f(x) = x/(x-2)
x = f(x)'/(f(x)' - 2) [like substituting y for x, except I'm using f(x)']
x*f(x)' - 2x = f(x)' [multiply both sides by f(x)']
x*f(x)' -f(x)' = 2x [subtract f(x)' from both sides; add 2x to both sides]
f(x)'*(x-1) = 2x [factored out a f(x)' term from the left side]
f(x)' = 2x/(x-1) [divided both sides by (x-1)]
Thus the inverse of f(x) = x/(x-2) is f(x)' = 2x/(x-1).
Yeah, that works. I was trying to do something similar last night, but I made the mistake of solving everything for x and then interchanging x with y instead of the other way around.
But you really shouldn't label the inverse function with a ' because that can be confused with derivatives, though it's in a different place. If possible, I'd try to find something on the forum which allows you to write superscript, but I haven't found it in the past 5 minutes which I've been looking.
steve12
09-07-2007, 05:40 AM
to find the inverse, just remember that f(x) is another way of saying y, so switch your ys with your x's so the eq become: x = y/(y-2) and resolve for y.
To invert a function, switch y with x, and then rearrange.
In this case, since you have multiple x's, it won't work (or at least I haven't done it in long enough to make that work). I don't remember another way to work it out algebraically.
Graphically, you can just flip the graph over the y = x line and try to figure out the equation for that relation.
zack - you can't simplify that. It normally works, but when you have 2 y's in the equation, it's not possible to simplify it down to one (or at least my brief try didn't work out very well).
Read those for the simplest way to solve.
abyaly
09-07-2007, 12:39 PM
Yeah, that works. I was trying to do something similar last night, but I made the mistake of solving everything for x and then interchanging x with y instead of the other way around.That should give you the same answer :p
bludhoundz
09-07-2007, 03:17 PM
That should give you the same answer :p
Well then I was just tired and did it horribly horribly wrong :confused:
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