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Belthazor
10-21-2007, 01:29 PM
I would like to know everyone's opinion of this what type of set takes more skill.i would really like to hear ur opinion.Anti,Turt,Spread,Anti-Rush,Rush.

I BEAT MATHEWS
10-21-2007, 01:33 PM
Turtle

Silverkent
10-21-2007, 01:49 PM
Turtle, everyone is going to say the same.

Belthazor
10-21-2007, 01:52 PM
ok

Smilez
10-21-2007, 01:53 PM
Turtle, everyone is going to say the same.

very true

Megaron
10-21-2007, 02:44 PM
Free

I proved you wrong Silver :(

~Priest~
10-21-2007, 02:50 PM
I don't believe anyone of those takes more skill. I feel they all have equal amounts of skill involved.

Punishment
10-21-2007, 02:54 PM
free takes more skill.

Turt is most repetitive.

The Coder
10-21-2007, 03:09 PM
Question. What's the difference between anti and anti-rush?

Elentari
10-21-2007, 03:28 PM
You know what takes more skill?

Making a formation, ignoring the actual abilities of the units, completely based on prettiness and symmetry (ex. the dragonfly) and then taking it out, using it as a real form and winning.

BlackSyphon
10-21-2007, 03:29 PM
i've done that before :)

du

map13
10-21-2007, 07:31 PM
its not really just a sertain type its the units you put in. for example, alot of people said turtle, however u can have a cleric, stone, dragon tyrant, dsm, then all pyros and it takes no skill.

killer24442
10-21-2007, 07:37 PM
You know what takes more skill? Jumping 1500+ golds on a grey with default set and winning.

Punishment
10-21-2007, 08:24 PM
I turtle in freestyle.

That takes some skill, i think, but i think all freestyle takes the same amount... because not every game is the EXACT SAMe you need to think of strategy along the way.

Match Strike
10-21-2007, 08:30 PM
free takes more skill.

Turt is most repetitive.

Correct.

Freestyle by nature requires the player to be prepared to face a variety of formations/styles. Many turtle games come down to who has first turn.

I BEAT MATHEWS
10-21-2007, 08:31 PM
actually, I think grey games take the most.

Realist
10-21-2007, 08:34 PM
What takes more skill, basketball or novel-writing?

Hatchet Warrior
10-21-2007, 08:55 PM
Neither because you can BS your way through both.

Shiznit
10-21-2007, 09:37 PM
TURTLE...

Matrim
10-21-2007, 11:10 PM
bomb!!!

I MaFiA I
10-22-2007, 12:21 AM
I would like to know everyone's opinion of this what type of set takes more skill.i would really like to hear ur opinion.Anti,Turt,Spread,Anti-Rush,Rush.

nice sig.....ROFL

Lonely Tylenol
10-22-2007, 03:48 AM
its not really just a sertain type its the units you put in. for example, alot of people said turtle, however u can have a cleric, stone, dragon tyrant, dsm, then all pyros and it takes no skill.

Oh really now?

You're telling me it takes no skill to win with a defensive-set formation that has no range units or defensive mechanisms to speak of?

I'm intrigued.

Care to explain to me how this might work?

Anywho...

For once, I agree with Pun. Freestyle takes the greatest degree of skill, shame on those of you that said turtle. The amount of "skill" it takes to consistently win games decreases with the number and degree of formation restrictions set on a game because it becomes more a matter of whose strengths those restrictions play to, both in formation and playing style.

For instance, if you agree on a same-side turtle with back-rank stonies, you know to set your Mud Golem on the third rank on the very front of your cluster so you can move 5 forward and quake, and put your Dragon one space ahead of that so your opponent can't do the same to you. You also know you don't have to set anything to protect your Cleric from same-side attacks. These formation changes will help you tremendously in a same-side turtle game without corner clusters even though they won't seem as practical in a totally random situation, which is irrelevant because you're not playing for overall skill. In fact, you've geared yourself only to win a very specific type of game, which takes very little skill to do.

Only by playing total freestyle do you really have to face a wide variety of playing styles, formations, and scenarios that help you become a well-rounded player.

(If you happen to do that while turtling, more power to ya. :D)

Belthazor
10-22-2007, 07:07 PM
I turtle in freestyle.

That takes some skill, i think, but i think all freestyle takes the same amount... because not every game is the EXACT SAMe you need to think of strategy along the way.Punishment ur actually right if u think about it :D

Belthazor
10-22-2007, 07:18 PM
Could someone make me a sweet banner i dont really like mine?

bludhoundz
10-22-2007, 08:45 PM
Hard to compare.

death rico
10-22-2007, 09:15 PM
hmm call me crazy but i think a bomb needs the most skill. your thinking "all you do is bomb and heal!"

try doing that when u have 7 pyros all having +4 power.and if they get to your dsm first then your screwed. so you need to keep a 30 hp unit alive and try to use all your units AT THE SAME TIME. it is difficult.

Match Strike
10-22-2007, 09:24 PM
hmm call me crazy but i think a bomb needs the most skill. your thinking "all you do is bomb and heal!"

try doing that when u have 7 pyros all having +4 power.and if they get to your dsm first then your screwed. so you need to keep a 30 hp unit alive and try to use all your units AT THE SAME TIME. it is difficult.

That would take skill only because the formation you described is terrible.

Asianpride55
10-22-2007, 10:34 PM
It depends on the person using the sets.

Lonely Tylenol
10-23-2007, 04:49 AM
Punishment ur actually right if u think about it :D

Yeah, now that he's been listening to what I've said for all of the last two years... :wink2:

Not that I know how long he's been turtling in free, or anything... :unsure:

elimination
10-23-2007, 07:23 AM
Pun, how did you know all that? ^_-
No wonder I became good in turt faster than I did in free.......
Problem in free is, you have to think of a good stragety to beat and freestyle set, since they are all different and deadly. :p

The Coder
10-23-2007, 04:23 PM
Dunno a lot of people use similar freestyle sets

battlefield
10-23-2007, 04:30 PM
i think free takes more skill

Lost.Boy
10-23-2007, 04:55 PM
Free takes more skill.

The Dark Knight
10-23-2007, 04:56 PM
I belive that free takes the most skill, but the biggest challenge is using the default set (which isn't really a terrible set) and trying to beat people on a regular basis. Like taking that set, and getting as many stats and wins as possible. That is a true challenge.

Lord Sesshomaru
10-23-2007, 05:24 PM
Free.
I fish for all my games unless challenged. Of course when you fish, you have no clue what you're going to get. If you're prepared to face anything, then you're good.

Belthazor
10-23-2007, 05:41 PM
Free.
I fish for all my games unless challenged. Of course when you fish, you have no clue what you're going to get. If you're prepared to face anything, then you're good.LOL but true good point im gonna start doing that sometimes

Lord Sesshomaru
10-23-2007, 06:31 PM
Well once you reach around 1400 you pretty much have to challenge people. That's because when you fish, you usually get default-set grays. Once in a while you get the occasional gold ballsy/stupid enough to jump you.

Belthazor
10-23-2007, 06:33 PM
Well once you reach around 1400 you pretty much have to challenge people. That's because when you fish, you usually get default-set grays. Once in a while you get the occasional gold ballsy/stupid enough to jump you.LOL big time LOL:D

steve12
10-23-2007, 07:58 PM
To my surprise, lately I think that Rush games require more skill.

|AFO|
10-23-2007, 08:09 PM
None..

Once you've played them all enough you'll figure out that they're all basically the same..

~Rubbish~
10-23-2007, 09:27 PM
Not an option, but grey is the style that takes the most skills.

Master TAO
10-23-2007, 11:22 PM
Not an option, but grey is the style that takes the most skills.

In gold vs grey games, grey takes the most skill in the game. If you are playing grey vs grey however, then its about the same as a free style game.

Merely playing this game and winning takes some degree of skill, but if i had to choose one i would go with free taking the most skill.

Master TAO
10-23-2007, 11:24 PM
None..

Once you've played them all enough you'll figure out that they're all basically the same..

Ahh i just saw this, AFO has the most insight here i believe. Its probably all repetition to someone that has played as much.

Hatchet Warrior
10-23-2007, 11:47 PM
This is why I like playing on legends.

No matter what they will all be of the same skill, but with the different types of drops, it makes you play differently than you normally would.

Asmith
10-24-2007, 09:49 AM
I think rush takes more skill

Lord Shinok
10-24-2007, 02:21 PM
Turtling vs sameside rush. :p

The Coder
10-24-2007, 03:40 PM
You're entitled to your own wrong opinion.

Electrical
10-26-2007, 05:32 PM
Om,Grey takes the most skill and could someone make me a banner

death of humans
10-27-2007, 10:34 AM
TURTLE obviously DUH!!

Anarchy_United
10-27-2007, 11:33 AM
Correct.

Freestyle by nature requires the player to be prepared to face a variety of formations/styles. Many turtle games come down to who has first turn.

That just got Punishment off my ignore list.

Woodland
10-27-2007, 02:11 PM
TURTLE obviously DUH!!
I would've thought grey takes alot more.

|AFO|
10-27-2007, 07:16 PM
You're entitled to your own wrong opinion.

Please enlighten us..

The Coder
10-27-2007, 09:52 PM
Opinions can't be wrong.

Semper-Fidelis
10-28-2007, 02:15 AM
i would have to say turtle takes a lot more skill. reasoning is because you need to be several steps ahead of apponant. even though there are a lot of turtles the same way, there are others out there as well that are odd. and if you make some rules that will make it more challenging, like one scout and no tyrant turt.. :) i love those.. but anywho, it's turtle for me

Soda
10-28-2007, 07:18 AM
Freestyle.

bludhoundz
10-28-2007, 08:23 AM
Opinions can't be wrong.

If one has an opinion that plastic does not exist, their opinion is wrong.

There is, in this case, probably a right answer. It's just very difficult to determine what it is -- popular consensus doesn't really cut it.

Match Strike
10-28-2007, 04:11 PM
i would have to say turtle takes a lot more skill. reasoning is because you need to be several steps ahead of apponant. even though there are a lot of turtles the same way, there are others out there as well that are odd. and if you make some rules that will make it more challenging, like one scout and no tyrant turt.. :) i love those.. but anywho, it's turtle for me

I hate this place.

The Coder
10-28-2007, 08:39 PM
If one has an opinion that plastic does not exist, their opinion is wrong.

There is, in this case, probably a right answer. It's just very difficult to determine what it is -- popular consensus doesn't really cut it.

An opinion is a person's ideas and thoughts towards something. It is an assessment, judgment or evaluation of something. An opinion is not a fact, because opinions are either not falsifiable, or the opinion has not been proven or verified. If it later becomes proven or verified, it is no longer an opinion, but a fact.

Either not proven or verified, at which point it is either a fact, or not a fact, or it cannot be made a fact, and thusly cannot be wrong.

Semper-Fidelis
10-28-2007, 08:49 PM
Either not proven or verified, at which point it is either a fact, or not a fact, or it cannot be made a fact, and thusly cannot be wrong.

nicely put, took the words right out of my brain :)

Lone Star
10-28-2007, 09:48 PM
Turtles

The Coder
10-28-2007, 11:24 PM
Blowjobs are take the most skill. I mean for vaginal and anal you can just sit there and let the guy do all the work.

Lord Sesshomaru
10-29-2007, 07:51 AM
/ban

Plus after reading this you just showed everyone how little you know sexually.

Punishment
10-29-2007, 09:27 AM
Coder is orally challenged.

He should take a class. Not me.

Buwhahaha

Lord Sesshomaru
10-29-2007, 10:01 AM
owned :cool:

|AFO|
10-29-2007, 07:01 PM
Opinions can't be wrong.

But they can be stupid.

The Coder
10-29-2007, 07:12 PM
But they can be stupid.

Yes.

Coder is orally challenged.

He should take a class. Not me.

Buwhahaha

Yes.

owned :cool:

Yes.

The Ass
10-30-2007, 03:02 PM
Default setup in grey takes the maximum skill imho,

CRX687
10-30-2007, 06:26 PM
I would like to know everyone's opinion of this what type of set takes more skill.i would really like to hear ur opinion.Anti,Turt,Spread,Anti-Rush,Rush.

Grey > all else you can use > when you set restrictions on what your opponent uses.

But it doesn't matter what form you use, it takes more skill to play against an unknown form than when you only play against a set type of opponent. Seriously, how much skill does it take to play this game when you refuse to play against anything that would challenge your form? It's like setting the computer AI on very easy and expecting recognition when you win.

The Coder
10-30-2007, 09:53 PM
... Wait you're not supposed to get credit for shoving it on "Sandbox" mode?

Mordecai
10-31-2007, 07:41 PM
It all depends on your formation and the formation of your oppenent. All around obviously the turtle is the more strategic formation, but sometimes using a turtle can make it an easy win if your oppenents form permits it.

XeqtR
11-07-2007, 01:07 PM
Default setup takes the maximum skill. For grey that is. And, no it is not stupid to use that. Killmonky is one of my favorite players for the extreme tact with which he plays it. You get a good feel for the pluses and minuses of each individual unit and their defensive contribution to the other units. It is just an altogether different feel if you play while really thinking about winning with it.